[00:00] <Jordan_U> Epx998: I think $timeout gets cleared when you interact with the menu. You could try "source /boot/grub/grub.cfg; echo $timeout", but that's not nearly as conclusive a test.
[00:00] <wakeatnight> I am trying to disable notifications while in LightDM.
[00:00] <daftykins> ok, saw making use of a theme and pondered.
[00:00] <wakeatnight> Ah OK :)
[00:00] <wakeatnight> If you know how, daftykins that'd be great though.
[00:00] <daftykins> nope
[00:00] <durt> Just upgraded to 15.10 lost 3g usb modem (connects but no network) anyone else?
[00:00] <daftykins> i'd have opened with that ;)
[00:00] <Epx998> Jordan_U: same result
[00:03] <wileee> durt, usb modem namw the actual hardware from lsusb here if you can
[00:03] <Epx998> Maybe I have an issue with different kernls on the sytstem
[00:03] <wileee> name*
[00:04] <Epx998> nope
[00:04] <durt> wileee, thanks but haven't started the investigation yet, looking to see if there's already a work around
[00:04] <MrWizard> hi ive been using ubuntu as a side project and it and mint linux are good competitors
[00:04] <reisio> MrWizard: neat
[00:05] <TJ-> Epx998: what does grub.cfg set timeout= to? In the source, if it is == 0 it does unset(timeout), which would explain what you experience
[00:05] <Epx998> TJ-: I have it set to 5 right now
[00:06] <Epx998> maybe my menu position is off
[00:06] <TJ-> Epx998: if it counts down and reaches 0 then what I said above would still happen. If you interrupt the countdown before it reaches 0 can you see a value?
[00:06] <Epx998> TJ-: It isnt counting down
[00:07] <tlt> if you have pressed a key then the countdown cancels
[00:07] <TJ-> Epx998: you may not see it but timeout-- is done each second, unless a key is pressed. If auto_boot != 1 the default won't be booted
[00:07] <tlt> such as up/down arrow and etc
[00:08] <Jordan_U> Epx998: Wait, are you getting stuck at a grub *menu* or at the grub shell? The grub.cfg you posted has no menu entries.
[00:08] <Epx998> Jordan_U: grub menu
[00:09] <Jordan_U> Epx998: Then the grub.cfg you posted is not the one being read at boot.
[00:09] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Epx998
[00:11] <Jordan_U> Epx998: My guess would be that you have a separate /boot/ partition that isn't being mounted as it should, but the RESULTS.txt from boot info script should clarify things.
[00:11] <TJ-> It could be the custom.cfg
[00:12] <Epx998> Jordan_U: OK
[00:13] <Epx998> Jordan_U: Results.txt => http://paste.ofcode.org/39MXQ4dZPeVbLHChGKBWbEN
[00:17] <Jordan_U> Epx998: Indeed, the grub.cfg on sda1 sets timeout=-1 with recordfail. But I would say that your /boot/ not mounting properly is actually a bigger problem.
[00:18] <Jordan_U> Epx998: Please pastebin your /etc/fstab (which boot info script was supposed to grab, but failed to).
[00:18] <Epx998> Jordan_U: http://paste.ofcode.org/aZBJM7uRZEta8NyMnCi5pN
[00:19] <tlt> well getting to boot at all is good though
[00:19] <tlt> missing boot could have disallowed it
[00:19] <TJ-> well, there's the problem! no mount of /dev/sda1 /boot
[00:19] <tlt> honestly sounds like a double install of grub somehow
[00:19] <Epx998> tlt: I brought that up previously to the guy who owns the kickstart server, /boot was missing as a partiton.
[00:20] <tlt> Epx998, oh, well having a boot as ext2 is usually a good idea
[00:20] <TJ-> Epx998: so, all OS update-grub activities are being written to the root file-system instead
[00:21] <Epx998> ah ok
[00:21] <Epx998> Anything I can do here to get this reading the correct info?
[00:23] <TJ-> Epx998: mount /dev/sda1 to a temp-dir, copy/move everything from /boot/ into that temp-dir, unmount temp-dir, remount /dev/sda1 to /boot, "grub-install /dev/sda" "update-grub" and add "/dev/sda1 /boot ext2 defaults 0 2" to /etc/fstab
[00:23] <Epx998> geebus ok - sec
[00:24] <TJ-> Epx998: correct ... fstab file-system ext2 should be ext4 !
[00:24] <TJ-> s/correct/correction/ !!
[00:26] <tlt> uh it's good to have boot as ext2 isn't it
[00:27] <Epx998> this look ok? => /dev/sda1       /boot           ext4    defaults        0 0
[00:27] <TJ-> Epx998: Looks fine
[00:28] <Sbur> Just got finished upgrading to 15.10 and I'm very happy.
[00:28] <wileee> Sbur, give it time, ;)
[00:28] <Sbur> Still not completely happy with Internet DJ console, but that will come one day once I get it to function well
[00:28] <Epx998> Got an error
[00:29] <Sbur> wileee: What does that mean?
[00:29] <wileee> Sbur, a joke, we deal with broken stuff here not everyone is happy.
[00:29] <Sbur> wileee: Should I be scared?
[00:29] <Epx998> TJ-: http://paste.ofcode.org/NuvZTXqkPd8xhRkqdMJi7P
[00:29] <wileee> Sbur, Nah, runs great always here.
[00:30] <Sbur> wileee: When I get some time to ask for help, I'm going to ask for help with Internet DJ console which is giving me problems for a couple of upgrades
[00:31] <Sbur> But good night ... it's after 2am here in Belgium
[00:31] <TJ-> Epx998: Right. grub-install is trying to use the GPT BIOS Boot partition. There's a protective MBR, it needs to recognise/use that so it puts core.img in the spare sectors from 1-2047
[00:32] <TJ-> Epx998: that's one of the few things I've never needed to force; not sure how to do that. Maybe Jordan_U knows?
[00:36] <wolf__> Hi there anyone still here ?
[00:36] <reisio> nope
[00:36] <wolf__> t:)
[00:37] <wolf__> dude, i have a problem with lsb when i do update && upgrade
[00:37] <reisio> nowai
[00:37] <wolf__> booooooooooooring
[00:37] <daftykins> wolf__: show this issue in a pastebin.
[00:37] <space_monkey> how to implement tuple space paradigm??? architecture of the system??
[00:38] <daftykins> space_monkey: wrong channel
[00:38] <reisio> space_monkey: with tuples
[00:38] <wolf__> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/1qEypSCu
[00:38] <space_monkey> where i can ask question distributed systems
[00:39] <space_monkey> daftykins: ??
[00:39] <Casey> anyone know how to connect the mail command to ssmtp
[00:39] <space_monkey> daftykins: suggest distributed systems channel !! pelase
[00:40] <daftykins> space_monkey: no, this is not a personal directory for finding your way around freenode
[00:40] <daftykins> wolf__: "cat /etc/issue" ?
[00:41] <wolf__> daftykins: Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[00:42] <daftykins> alright well your output is in French so that's not going to make life too easy for me
[00:42] <wolf__> daftykins: i wanted to install a wireless printer XP-615 but i failed and now i got this errors evrytime i upgrade
[00:42] <wolf__> yep sorry
[00:42] <wolf__> dependencies problem
[00:43] <tlt> ubuntu is package managed so it's disconcerting to get dependency errors
[00:43] <tlt> wonder how you all do it
[00:43] <daftykins> wolf__: what was that command though? "sudo apt-get -f install" ?
[00:43] <daftykins> tlt: how the users do it that break it, or? :P
[00:43] <wolf__> the same error with this command dafty
[00:44] <tlt> daftykins, yeah they should stick to using apt properly
[00:44] <tlt> instead of pulling in random packages and not resolving deps etc
[00:44] <wolf__> i installed the printer in printer manager and i got this error
[00:44] <daftykins> wolf__: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -a
[00:45] <daftykins> tlt: life happens, now please keep the silly comments to yourself
[00:45] <Jordan_U> Epx998: You should create a BIOS Boot Partition. It only needs to be 1 MiB large and contains no filesystem. I find it odd that you have a GPT disk in a BIOS based system with no BIOS Boot Partition and had an fstab which had comments for /boot/ and swap but no actual entries for them.
[00:47] <wolf__> daftykins: why he asks me to create an additionnal home directory,, i did it /mnt/home   i'm waiting
[00:47] <Casey> the examples I see using ssmtp use the command mail but for me it says that mail doesn;t exst
[00:47] <Jordan_U> Epx998: If we've found this many problems just from researching this grub problem, there may be many more. It might be a good idea to re-install this server with someone who is paying more attention and have them document everything they do (it appears like someone deleted entries from the fstab that were automatically created by Ubuntu's installer, but then didn't document why they did so).
[00:48] <daftykins> wolf__: who does?
[00:48] <Casey> how do I setup the mail command to run ssmtp
[00:48] <wolf__> in console
[00:49] <wolf__> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/aTmPJkcJ
[00:50] <daftykins> there's nothing about creating a home there
[00:51] <wolf__> yep i got a window about additional directory and certificates but the command didnt work
[00:51] <daftykins> well it did because a lot of that output = progress.
[00:52] <wolf__> honestly its boring
[00:52] <wolf__> and when i tried to purge it , doesnt work also
[00:52] <Jordan_U> Epx998: For more information on the BIOS Boot Partition see: https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/BIOS-installation.html
[00:53] <daftykins> wolf__: repeat the last command and share only the new output
[00:56] <bewbz> I'm currently upgarding to 15.10, is everything on my current system going to be be upgraded along with it?
[00:56] <bewbz> I get a fresh start, yes?
[00:56] <bewbz> nothing carries over?
[00:56] <daftykins> no it all comes over
[00:57] <daftykins> you'd clean install if you wanted clean
[00:57] <mati> hola
[00:57] <mati> hablas castellano
[00:57] <daftykins> !es
[00:57] <mati> ?Ç
[00:57] <bewbz> ok that works too. thaqnks daftykins
[00:57] <wolf__> daaftykins: http://pastebin.com/YKMBSE0i
[00:58] <daftykins> weird it's repeating
[00:58] <daftykins> wolf__: what about "sudo apt-get -f install" now?
[01:00] <wolf__> daaftykins: http://pastebin.com/9gBrZPnx thank you mate :)
[01:00] <Casey> how can  i use the mail command with sSMTP?
[01:02] <wolf__> daaftykins: http://pastebin.com/kc7GdCHa output in english if it can helps
[01:04] <daftykins> wolf__: well, i have to sleep... but if you look in there at every program it says is not configured, run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package>" and go through like that
[01:04] <daftykins> i would've thought my -a command would've done that, but apparently not
[01:05] <bilb_ono> so you know how you can add external deb sources like this: echo "deb https://<USERNAME>:<PASSWORD>@resource/ precise main" | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mct.list
[01:05] <wolf__> Well thank you for help and have a good night :)
[01:05] <bilb_ono> can you do the same thing with a local directory? like echo “deb file://some_dir/ precise main” …..
[01:05] <Twirl> hello, is there a way to speed up bug fixing?
[01:05] <bilb_ono> assuming that some_dir has the exact same thing that the http resource has?
[01:05] <daftykins> Twirl: yeah, you can fix the bug yourself
[01:06] <Twirl> daftykins: https://goo.gl/QUZMVn for real
[01:07] <n000b> i read ubuntu 15.10 comes with gnome 3.16 and can be ubgraded to 3.18. now nautilus is 3.14 and gedit even 3.10?!
[01:09] <n000b> Question being: at which version of ubuntu is it planed to deliver a consistent gnome desktop?
[01:09] <daftykins> unity *is* gnome
[01:11] <soupnanodesukar> >gnome
[01:11] <n000b> but all the programs are different versions of the offizial gnome DE. with consistent i mean can i have a full gnome 3.1x with all the official programs in THAT version?
[01:11] <soupnanodesukar> >consistent
[01:11] <soupnanodesukar> pick one
[01:11] <wolf__> daaftykins: solved :)
[01:11] <SchrodingersScat> !newest
[01:12] <n000b> even debian jessie can do it
[01:12] <n000b> and yes i can use a ppa to "solve" that, but every time? is that the official ubuntu policy? why not have 3.10 but then all programs in that version?
[01:12] <bazhang> n000b, did you mean gnome-shell or what
[01:12] <bilb_ono> to similfy. can deb repos be given as file:// resources as well as http/https?
[01:13] <bazhang> !info gnome-shell
[01:13] <n000b> bazhang: yes gnome-shell and all the primary ubuntu programs, like nautilus, gedit
[01:13] <daftykins> n000b: use another distro if you want standard gnome, i.e. get ubuntu gnome edition
[01:13] <Jordan_U> n000b: This channel is for support, not really for discussion of the future of Ubuntu. Please move non support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:14] <bazhang> n000b, later than the 3.16?
[01:14] <n000b> just all from one version, thats all i want
[01:16] <soupnanodesukar> do i have to ppa-purge the kubuntu backports before installing the new release, or does do-release-upgrade handle that automatically? I don't want obscure versions+dependencies of some stuff hanging around that's hard to remove after the fact.
[01:16] <bazhang> ppa are disabled at the start of that process
[01:16] <soupnanodesukar> ok thanks
[01:16] <Casey> anyone mind helpnig me with email alert script?
[01:17] <bazhang> chasing later ppa means contacting the ppa maintainers however, we cannot help with that
[01:17] <bazhang> try #bash Casey
[01:17] <frontserver> i need a free vpn
[01:17] <bazhang> frontserver, openvpn
[01:18] <n000b> !info gedit
[01:18] <n000b> !info nautilus
[01:18] <bazhang> !info openvpn
[01:18] <n000b> !info gnome-shell
[01:18] <frontserver> @ bazhang how to install do you have a link
[01:18] <bazhang> n000b, /msg ubottu please
[01:18] <Jordan_U> n000b: We get it. Please move further discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:18] <frontserver> most of the site has been block in china
[01:18] <usr13> n000b: Try xfce
[01:19] <bazhang> n000b, to check /msg ubottu info package
[01:19] <bazhang> n000b, thats for PM and wont hit us here doing support
[01:19] <frontserver> and is it possble to run windows office 2016 on ubuntu
[01:20] <bazhang> frontserver, sudo apt-get install openvpn
[01:20] <bazhang> check the appdb for that frontserver !appdb
[01:20] <wileee> frontserver, no, but you can open it's files.
[01:20] <frontserver> is it possible to run windows office 2016 on Ubuntu via wine @bazhang
[01:21] <tlt> you can run online ms office
[01:21] <bazhang>  /join #winehq for more frontserver
[01:21] <bazhang> !appdb | frontserver
[01:22] <bazhang> use that website to check frontserver
[01:22] <frontserver> thanks
[01:23] <n000b> so in wiley i cant have a full 3.16 experience then not even with the gnome3 ppa. do i really have to use gnome3-staging ppa then and jump to 3.18 to have most of the apps in one version?
[01:23] <bazhang> seems like thats the case n000b
[01:24] <n000b> erm ok thanks for confirming :-/
[01:24] <bazhang> welcome
[01:26] <bongo_the_clown> Need to install some packages on an offline U12.04 box. Tried copying the .debs out of the archives folder, but stuck in dpkg hell. Has anyone successfully used the apt-get offline install process?
[01:27] <bazhang> why not aptoncd bongo_the_clown
[01:27] <bazhang> or aptonusb in this case
[01:28] <bazhang> !aptoncd
[01:29] <bongo_the_clown> A few of the packages are hosted on a non-standard server (private company’s apt server) — is that still an option?
[01:30] <bazhang> can they be dld to a ubuntu vm bongo_the_clown
[01:31] <bazhang> bongo_the_clown, if you can get packages in the apt cache then its very doable
[01:35] <VFDPrim> evening all
[01:36] <Mamba_2> hi
[01:36] <kernelhack> hello
[01:36] <VFDPrim> wondering if there is a simple program so sketch stuff out on ubuntu im trying to draw out plans for a new desk and would like to be able to put in exact measuments and what not
[01:37] <bongo_the_clown> VFDPrim - try google sketchup
[01:37] <VFDPrim> is it an online aplication
[01:38] <VFDPrim> they dont have an option to download for ubuntu
[01:39] <VFDPrim> they should because they have a google earth option
[01:39] <bongo_the_clown> http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/06/install-google-sketchup-ubuntu1404/
[01:39] <VFDPrim> thanks Bongo
[01:40] <bongo_the_clown> ugh — that uses wine…may not be too easy
[01:40] <VFDPrim> yea i have a few issues running programs in wine but i will give this a shot dont see any other way to do it with out using my vm
[01:45] <Starn> bongo_the_clown, know of anything open source?
[01:46] <roseysdad> can anyone help me with 15.10 server?
[01:46] <roseysdad> im getting a black screen.  no terminal window
[01:46] <roseysdad> after a sucessful install
[01:47] <Starn> i personally loved sketchup but the fact it wasn't open source made me sad.
[01:47] <bongo_the_clown> @Starn: unfortunately no, I used to use autocad, then when google released sketchup for free, I switched to that. But I’ve always used it on a windows / mac box.
[01:47] <Starn> bongo_the_clown, same here minus the mac :P
[01:47] <turnt> roseysdad, know of anything open source?
[01:48] <VFDPrim> i cant see where it down loaded to lol and i told it where to go lol
[01:48] <roseysdad> turnt what?
[01:48] <Starn> VFDPrim, google doesn't own it anymore. but it's still free. they have a website for it to download it. only way you can run it though if via wine.
[01:49] <bongo_the_clown> For photo editing, there’s a cool photoshop like webapp called: https://pixlr.com/web
[01:49] <bongo_the_clown> …but not for eng drawings...
[01:49] <turnt> roseysdad, can you do a ctrl-alt-f2, does that do anything (sorry im using a new irc client)
[01:49] <VFDPrim> oh ok yea im just trying to find the file at the moment to open in wine
[01:50] <roseysdad> turnt .... yes!
[01:51] <roseysdad> any idea what I can change to make that do that perminantely?
[01:51] <bongo_the_clown> @bazhang, you thinking I should do this, and host the apt-cache server on my local box?
[01:51] <bongo_the_clown> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Apt-Cacher-Server
[01:51] <turnt> roseysdad: can you login ok from there?
[01:53] <roseysdad> yes sir
[01:53] <turnt> roseysdad: press ctrl-alt-f1 through f7 and find out which one is only giving you a black screen
[01:53] <g0twig> where can I test the unity 8 preview
[01:54] <bazhang> !info unity8
[01:54] <roseysdad> looks like f7
[01:56] <turnt> roseysdad: I don't have server installed on any machines but on most distros tty7 (f7) is where your gui session is at. by any chance did you try to install a graphical component (such as a display manager?)
[01:57] <VFDPrim> ohh so evedentaly i needed to chainge wine from xp to 7 makes sense i never really did anything in wine just put a program in and it worked lol now to see if i can get it wo open sketchup
[01:57] <Bashing-om> roseysdad: FGLRX graphic's driver ?
[01:57] <g0twig> bazhang: ok
[01:57] <g0twig> Bashing-om: why does no one talk about it
[01:57] <g0twig> ubuntu 15.10 is probably the weakest ubuntu release in history
[01:57] <roseysdad> no, no display manager at all
[01:58] <bazhang> g0twig, thats not the proper venue for complaints
[01:58] <bazhang> g0twig, file a wishlist bug or join the offtopic channel
[01:58] <g0twig> ok
[01:59] <Bashing-om> roseysdad: Maybe take a look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and see what X is up to ?
[02:00] <archStanton> does anyone know if there is a wireshark irc?
[02:00] <bazhang> use alis to search archStanton
[02:00] <bazhang> !alis | archStanton
[02:00] <hamburgertime> #wireshark
[02:00] <roseysdad> there is no Xorg.log
[02:01] <lkthomas> what exactly does ufw application policy use for ?!
[02:01] <munsking> please tell me it's possible to fix "accidentally deleting /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux.so.1" ...
[02:01] <kostkon> !find libselinux.so.1
[02:01] <archStanton> Maybye I typed it in wrong... didnt see it...  But ill try alis as well
[02:01] <archStanton> Ever heard of it... I am somewhat new to irc
[02:02] <munsking> kostkon: it's probably in the linux package
[02:02] <roseysdad> i turned off no splash or quite mode or whatever in the grub config and that fixed it.  thank you
[02:02] <Bashing-om> roseysdad: (?) Never encountered a situation of no Xorg.0.log . I have no clue what to advise .
[02:02] <VFDPrim> HMMM odd it wont come up for me when i tell it to open... do i need to com restart?
[02:02] <turnt> Bashing-om: he's using ubuntu server
[02:03] <roseysdad> im on ubuntu server
[02:03] <roseysdad> there is no gui installed
[02:03] <kostkon> munsking, you could try reinstalling the package that contains it: libselinux1
[02:03] <Bashing-om> turnt: :) No X ! Now that do explain .
[02:03] <turnt> roseysdad: Glad it worked! I'm not sure why splash needed to be disabled tho :/
[02:04] <munsking> kostkon: i can't use sudo anymore though...
[02:04] <munsking> i think i'm fucked :/
[02:04] <munsking> it's a remote server as well, no physical access
[02:04] <turnt> munsking: why can't you use sudo?
[02:04] <munsking> sudo: error while loading shared libraries: guess which one
[02:06] <kostkon> munsking, get the pacakge from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/libselinux1 (if not utopic, pick your version) extract it, boot into recovery mode, or on a livecd session, then place the missing file into the right folder
[02:07] <asarch> Besides libvirt which other program can I use to manager virtualisation based on kvm?
[02:07] <munsking> kostkon: i wish i could do that, but like i said, no physical access :(
[02:07] <VFDPrim> how do i remove sketch up from wine and my computer?
[02:07] <kostkon> munsking, right
[02:09] <VFDPrim> never mind my last q love google
[02:09] <munsking> VFDPrim: how did you install it?
[02:09] <munsking> VFDPrim: lol ok
[02:10] <VFDPrim> just like that page said but im going to retry again real fast
[02:10] <munsking> hmm, how do i log in as root when "su -" doesn't work? and neither does sudo?
[02:11] <munsking> VFDPrim: what page? i installed it using playonlinux (on arch though, but it works fine) and that's easy to remove, just remove 1 folder
[02:12] <Jordan_U> munsking: Use busybox for everything.
[02:12] <munsking> Jordan_U: what's busybox?
[02:13] <Jordan_U> munsking: A minimal set of *NIX utilities (think ls, grep, chmod) that is completely statically linked.
[02:14] <Jordan_U> munsking: Though I don't think it will help you get root access, it will allow you to use many useful commands as whatever user(s) you happen to be currently logged in as.
[02:14] <lin> hello
[02:14] <munsking> Jordan_U: not sure that would've helped in my case, i was trying to create a chroot jail for ssh users, but i must've mistyped something and somehow deleted libselinux :(
[02:14] <iwjej> hello, where do i find the folder for the keys in new file manager (earlier it was under home folder, and named gnupg)
[02:14] <iwjej> ?
[02:14] <GAV> I have a folder inside of my home folder that I want to give a user access to. I've made that user the owner (user and group) of that folder, and it and all of it's subdirectories are set to 744, but when I try to cd to the folder as another user, I get "permission denied"
[02:15] <Jordan_U> munsking: Do you have a root shell open?
[02:15] <munsking> Jordan_U: no sadly i don't...
[02:16] <munsking> and sudo errors out, so does su
[02:16] <munsking> i found a copy of the library on the machine
[02:16] <munsking> but i can't copy it now
[02:17] <dagerik> package php5-ssh2 do not exists in 14.04. what can i do
[02:17] <nameuser_> Does ubuntu auto mark bad sectors on encounter?
[02:18] <somsip> dagerik: use PECL by the look of it
[02:19] <somsip> dagerik: oh wait: http://www.codexpedia.com/apache-server/install-phps-ssh2-extension-on-ubuntu-and-mac/
[02:19] <Jordan_U> munsking: Do you have pkexec?
[02:19] <dagerik> somsip: thanks. how about php5-zmq?
[02:19] <munsking> Jordan_U: never used it, but it is installed
[02:20] <VFDPrim> so forgot to add the riched20 to win so now deleating sketch up for a second time to re download and try for the last time lol
[02:20] <somsip> dagerik: I don't want to appear unhelpful, but have you tried researching it yourself at all?
[02:20] <Jordan_U> munsking: Try "pkexec bash" and if that fails try "pkexec busybox sh".
[02:20] <Jordan_U> munsking: I still expect both to fail, but it's worth a try.
[02:21] <munsking> Jordan_U: thanks for the effort, but i'm afraid everything relies on that lib that nothing's working anymore... i'll just have to contact the server admin tomorrow (well, in a few hours, it's half past 4 in the morning here)
[02:21] <GAV> I want My user to be able to access this directory, but I can't seem to be able to get them able to do it.
[02:22] <munsking> i knew i should've tried it on my local ubuntu machine first, but nooooo, let's be hardcore and do it on a live server right away
[02:22] <Jordan_U> munsking: Note that any processes currently running will still be able to use that library.
[02:22] <XIX> GAV, I think you need 755 permissions to read and cd into a directory
[02:22] <GAV> Ohhhh
[02:23] <GAV> Even if you own it?
[02:23] <munsking> Jordan_U: OMG you just remembered me that i have a screen running
[02:24] <munsking> ...shit, they aren't able to
[02:24] <GAV> XIX: Nup, I'm getting the same issue. It even happens if I temporarily set them to 777
[02:25] <VFDPrim> ok i give up my conmp does not like sketch up llol
[02:26] <munsking> VFDPrim: did you try the playonlinux thing?
[02:26] <VFDPrim> no i have even harder time with that then i do wine
[02:27] <munsking> VFDPrim: it's worth a shot though, it worked flawlessly for me, didn't even have to edit anything
[02:27] <iwjej> hello, where do i find the folder for the keys in new file manager (earlier it was under home folder, and named gnupg)
[02:28] <tlt> it's .gnupg not gnupg
[02:28] <VFDPrim> @ munsking im not even sure how to try that lol
[02:28] <munsking> VFDPrim: just install "playonlinux" (i assume it's in the ubuntu repos as well)
[02:29] <munsking> and once it's installed, run "playonlinux" in there, click "install" and then search for the program you want, it should do everything for you
[02:29] <XIX> GAV: Damn. I've noticed that folders in ntfs partitions won't accept chmod but in this case, I'm not too sure.. :\
[02:29] <VFDPrim> i think its on my comp but first how do i remove sketchup from my programs i removed it from wine but i can still search for it under my programs
[02:29] <GAV> XIX: Yeah, this is on an Ubuntu server with ext4
[02:30] <munsking> VFDPrim: don't know about that, sorry, i don't use ubuntu on my desktop
[02:30] <TechnoCrunch> Hi
[02:30] <Jordan_U> munsking: Do you have a root password set? (You shouldn't)
[02:30] <TechnoCrunch> Is anyone using ubuntu on a macbook?
[02:30] <munsking> Jordan_U: i didn't set it, but yea, there is one
[02:31] <Jordan_U> TechnoCrunch: Such questions don't really get you anywhere. Please just ask your question, and if anyone thinks they can help, they will.
[02:31] <Jordan_U> munsking: Can you log in as root via ssh?
[02:31] <munsking> Jordan_U: i can't start a new ssh session
[02:31] <munsking> i assume it's missing that lib xD
[02:31] <TechnoCrunch> Well I'm trying to boot Ubuntu from a usb on a Macbook Pro Mid 2009 but it just hangs at the boot screen with the 5 dots forever. Any help would be lovely. :)
[02:32] <VFDPrim> bravo2144
[02:32] <Jordan_U> munsking: As a test, try "ssh root@host /bin/static-sh".
[02:32] <VFDPrim> woops lol
[02:32] <wileee> Technobliterator, shift or esc should show text after boot
[02:32] <munsking> TechnoCrunch: are you sure your install media isn't corrupted or anything? maybe try it with another distro? (arch FTW)
[02:32] <VFDPrim> friend of mine forgot her code for her linux machine for updates lol
[02:32] <Jordan_U> munsking: And just for more info, does running "bash" (whithout sudo / su / anything else) give you errors about the missing so?
[02:33] <TechnoCrunch> Tried arch
[02:33] <munsking> Jordan_U: i'll try it from one of the screens, 1 sec
[02:33] <TechnoCrunch> Just Kernel panics
[02:33] <TechnoCrunch> Will try the shift/esc thing wileee
[02:34] <munsking> Jordan_U: same error for both, error while loading shared libraries: libselinux.so.1: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory
[02:34] <mati> ekoparty
[02:34] <mati> ?
[02:34] <wileee> Technobliterator, After grub menu or so, I assume you get there in a mac.
[02:34] <mati> hi
[02:34] <mati> anyone
[02:35] <munsking> hi mati, if you have a question, just ask :P
[02:35] <wileee> mati, Support here, chat in #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <TechnoCrunch> ok wilee pressed esc and the grub cli appears
[02:35] <wileee> Technobliterator, like grub>
[02:36] <wileee> ?
[02:36] <TechnoCrunch> Yes
[02:36] <wileee> Technobliterator, Cool, not sure myself, but others wilol know.
[02:36] <wileee> will*
[02:36] <munsking> Jordan_U: thanks again for all the help, pity we couldn't figure something out, i'm just gonna go to bed now, hope the actual admin can fix it (and won't be too angry with me)
[02:36] <VFDPrim> going to try playonlinux for sketchup
[02:37] <Jordan_U> munsking: And to be clear, your ssh client is on another host, correct?
[02:37] <TechnoCrunch> So what do I do now wilee (I'm very new to linux)
[02:37] <TechnoCrunch> wileee*
[02:37] <minitrue> hi, anyone has a free dynamic dns to recommend?
[02:37] <dagerik> somehow /usr/share/nginx/html/index.html is being served even if I change the nginx config and restart it
[02:38] <munsking> Jordan_U: i'm at home, using my archlinux machine, i am logged in to a ubuntu server somewhere i can't access, over ssh
[02:38] <wileee> TechnoCrunch, We know a little more now, lots of help here, if someones knows they will probably answer, crack a cold one. ;)
[02:38] <Jordan_U> munsking: Yes, but when you tried to ssh in as root, you ran the ssh command from your archlinux machine, not from the screen session or similiar. Correct?
[02:39] <munsking> Jordan_U: and that ubu server is borked, the arch machine is fine (as far as arch can be fine lol)
[02:39] <munsking> Jordan_U: i did both, neither worked
[02:39] <Jordan_U> munsking: If you have an rsync server running, you might try copying the file over with that.
[02:39] <wileee> Technobliterator, Not sure if the issue here but we often start with checking the sums of the iso and install media.
[02:40] <TechnoCrunch> How would I do that?
[02:40] <wileee> !md5sum Technobliterator
[02:40] <munsking> Jordan_U: sadly i don't, there's no root ssh connection running, only a webserver that's constantly on, and i doubt it has access to /lib
[02:40] <munsking> i'll give it a shot in a minute
[02:40] <wileee> !md5sum | Technobliterator
[02:40] <Segi_> how do i mount an ntfs partition
[02:40] <TechnoCrunch> Thanks ubottu
[02:41] <devslash2> I have ntfs-3g installed but i cant write an ntfs partition
[02:41] <usr13> TechnoCrunch: We should do that on any image we download, (before burning to CD or USB)
[02:41] <wileee> Technobliterator, good info to have for a helper whom is familiar in this.
[02:41] <devslash2> err i cant mount an ntfs partition
[02:41] <usr13> devslash2: What's the problem?
[02:42] <devslash2> im not able to mount an ntfs parititon
[02:42] <usr13> devslash2: Did you restart nfsd after creating the share?
[02:42] <devslash2> im not using a share
[02:43] <usr13> devslash2: Oh sorry.  ntfs
[02:43] <devslash2> ntfsd
[02:43] <devslash2> ?
[02:43] <devslash2> theres no such service
[02:43] <usr13> devslash2: So what error do you get?
[02:44] <devslash2> he device '/dev/sda1' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS.
[02:44] <devslash2> Maybe the wrong device is used? Or the whole disk instead of a
[02:44] <devslash2> partition (e.g. /dev/sda, not /dev/sda1)? Or the other way around?
[02:44] <usr13> devslash2: what is the mount point for it?
[02:44] <usr13> devslash2: (Show us the command)
[02:44] <devslash2> mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[02:45] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid".
[02:45] <TechnoCrunch> Just did the MD5 sum check
[02:45] <TechnoCrunch> they are both the same
[02:45] <usr13> devslash2: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[02:46] <devslash2> theres no mention of sda in the output of blkid
[02:46] <devslash2> sda1
[02:46] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Please pastebin the complete output anyway.
[02:46] <devslash2> its not relevant
[02:46] <devslash2> my other partitions are listed there
[02:46] <usr13> devslash2: So what do you see in the System collumn?
[02:47] <Bashing-om> devslash2: try as ' mount -t ntfs ' .
[02:47] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Also the output of "sudo parted -l".
[02:47] <usr13> devslash2: Or just mount
[02:47] <devslash2> no go
[02:47] <usr13> devslash2: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda |pastebinit
[02:48] <usr13> devslash2: Let us take a look.
[02:48] <devslash2> http://pastebin.com/z7YrspYR
[02:49] <dagerik> service nginx restart succeeds even when there is an error in config.
[02:49] <TechnoCrunch> wileee, what should I do in the event that the md5 sum is check and is right
[02:49] <usr13> devslash2: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows
[02:49] <devslash2> doesnt work
[02:49] <usr13> devslash2: What does it say?
[02:49] <BlueProtoman> Is there a way I can make Nautilus' "Open in Terminal" context menu command open guake instead of Ubuntu's default terminal?
[02:50] <devslash2> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda1,
[02:50] <devslash2>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[02:50] <devslash2>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[02:50] <devslash2>        dmesg | tail or so.
[02:50] <munsking> Jordan_U: i just tried to copy the file using php, but it doesn't have the permissions for it (makes sense, but would be nice)
[02:50] <Jordan_U> devslash2: How do you know that it's ntfs? Could it possibly be exFAT?
[02:51] <devslash2> its ntfs
[02:51] <usr13> devslash2: Do you have fuse-exfat exfat-utils
[02:51] <usr13> ?
[02:51] <devslash2> its a windows 8 system
[02:51] <devslash2> dunno lemme check
[02:51] <usr13> Jordan_U: Yes it is.
[02:51] <devslash2> fdisk -l show it as ntfs
[02:51] <usr13> devslash2: sudo apt-get install fuse-exfat exfat-utils
[02:52] <EMPHASIS> Hi, what's a good app to extract text from a PDF, please?
[02:52] <wileee> TechnoCrunch, It is info that helps, you have to have patience. Channel suggests ten min intervals to repost, include the info we found, the sum and wht grub shows.
[02:53] <XIX> devslash2: If it's a dual-boot system, Windows might not have unmounted the drive cleanly. When I have similar problems, I boot into Windows and then restart back into Linux, just in case. Otherwise, "sudo ntfsfix /dev/sda1" might help.
[02:53] <devslash2> still no go
[02:53] <Jordan_U> devslash2: fdisk doesn't know anything about filesystems, only partition tables. A partition with that type will commonly contain an exFAT filesystem (hence why exFAT is listed as a possiblity by fdisk) and any filesystem can be used on any partition, partition ids are sort of poor hints as to what a partition might contain.
[02:53] <devslash2> its not exfat
[02:53] <usr13> devslash2: What command did you use4?
[02:54] <devslash2>  sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows/
[02:54] <usr13> devslash2: yes it is.  Did you install fuse-exfat and exfat-utils
[02:54] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Are you able to mount this filesystem from within Windows?
[02:54] <devslash2> yes windows boots just ifne
[02:54] <usr13> Jordan_U: Did you see http://pastebin.com/z7YrspYR ?
[02:54] <Jordan_U> usr13: Yes.
[02:55] <devslash2> I thought mounting ntfs was easy
[02:55] <usr13> devslash2: It is
[02:55] <devslash2> not if it takes over an hour
[02:57] <EMPHASIS> a good app to extract text from a PDF, please?
[02:57] <dagerik> service nginx start exits with a newline. but service nginx status says it's no running. help
[02:58] <devslash2> i give up
[02:58] <wastrel> EMPHASIS: pdftotext
[02:58] <function9x> hi guys, I'm google chrome that's in the repos, I'm getting segfaults, where can I report this?
[02:58] <function9x> i'm using rather
[02:58] <usr13> devslash2:  Did you install fuse-exfat and exfat-utils
[02:58] <devslash2> yes
[02:58] <EMPHASIS> :wastrel: Thank-you!
[02:59] <devslash2> fuse-exfat doesnt exist
[03:00] <usr13> devslash2: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:relan/exfat
[03:01] <usr13> devslash2: Did that work?  If so:  sudo apt-get update
[03:01] <[n0mad]> i'm confused, is your only issue you can't access a win8+ partition from ubuntu?
[03:01] <devslash2> yes
[03:01] <devslash2> it wont monut
[03:01] <devslash2> it wont mount
[03:01] <[n0mad]> have you disabled fast-boot?
[03:02] <[n0mad]> in windows
[03:02] <usr13> devslash2: sudo apt-get install fuse-exfat exfat-utils
[03:02] <devslash2> no
[03:02] <devslash2> ex-fat doent exist
[03:02] <devslash2> fuse-exfat doent exist
[03:02] <[n0mad]> unless you shutdown windows, you'll never mount it if fast-boot is enabled
[03:02] <devslash2> i did
[03:02] <[n0mad]> reboot won't work
[03:02] <devslash2> thats not the issue
[03:02] <[n0mad]> ok
[03:02] <[n0mad]> that sucks then
[03:02] <devslash2> i did a full dhutdown
[03:02] <devslash2> i did a full shutdown
[03:02] <smokeless> devslash2: apt-get install exf<press tab a bunch here>
[03:03] <[n0mad]> sorry, i'll shutup
[03:03] <usr13>  !info exfat-utils | devslash2
[03:04] <devslash2> why do i need that
[03:04] <devslash2> i dont have any exfat partitions
[03:04] <devslash2> exfat != ntfs
[03:05] <usr13> devslash2: Did you do:  sudo apt-add-repository ppa:relan/exfat
[03:05] <devslash2> yes
[03:05] <devslash2> but why do i need that
[03:05] <usr13> devslash2: Did you do:  sudo apt-get update
[03:05] <usr13> ?
[03:06] <devslash2> why do i need that
[03:06] <UserUS> it updates your repositories
[03:06] <devslash2> i dont have a single exfat partition
[03:06] <devslash2> why do i need an exfat driver for an ntfs partition
[03:06] <devslash2> exfat and ntfs are 2 different file systems
[03:06] <usr13> devslash2: Ok, then.  I don't know why you can't mount your partition.  I give up.
[03:07] <devslash2> i do too
[03:07] <devslash2> ubuntu sucks
[03:07] <usr13> You can lead a horse to water, but just don't forget what a wet horse smells like.
[03:07] <devslash2> ive never had this problem before and have used many other distros
[03:07] <usr13> devslash2: We are glad you like it.
[03:08] <UserUS> your trying to mount which filesystem?
[03:08] <devslash2> ntfs
[03:08] <devslash2> it just wont mount
[03:08] <UserUS> dual booting?
[03:08] <devslash2> yes
[03:08] <devslash2> sorta
[03:08] <usr13> UserUS: http://pastebin.com/z7YrspYR
[03:08] <devslash2> separate hard drives for linux and windows
[03:09] <devslash2> i gues si have no choice but to reboot when i need to get a file from my windows partition
[03:09] <devslash2> since ubuntu refuses to mount it
[03:09] <usr13> devslash2: Not true.
[03:09] <devslash2> it is
[03:09] <devslash2> i installed an ntfs driver
[03:09] <devslash2> it just wont mount
[03:09] <TechnoCrunch> GG I have no vmlinuz file
[03:09] <usr13> devslash2: Ok. have it your way.
[03:09] <UserUS> disks shoud let you mount, and edit the filesystem partitions individually. You'll need to be booted into an fd to do so though
[03:09] <azizLIGHT> is there google cloud print within ubuntu 14.04 or must i get ppa and 3rd party
[03:10] <UserUS> devslash2: or try sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt system
[03:11] <UserUS> devslash2: edit: dont include the system tag
[03:13] <UserUS> azizLIGHT: can you print from any other application
[03:18] <Jordan_U> devslash2: Please pastebin the output of "sudo grub-mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/".
[03:19] <XIX> devslash2: Is the partition table MBR or GPT ?
[03:20] <azizLIGHT> usr13: how do i print to my google cloud printer
[03:20] <azizLIGHT> from ubuntu
[03:20] <azizLIGHT> UserUS: ^^
[03:20] <usr13> azizLIGHT: I don't know.
[03:21] <azizLIGHT> usr13: sorry i tabbed wrong
[03:21] <UserUS> Got disconnected for a minute, cant see what you said before from ubuntu
[03:21] <azizLIGHT> UserUS: i dont have any printers in ubuntu besides 'print to file'
[03:22] <azizLIGHT> UserUS: but i have a google cloud ready printer that can receive files to print over wifi
[03:22] <azizLIGHT> id like to print from ubuntu to it
[03:22] <UserUS> Go to system settings and choose add printer
[03:23] <devslash2> Jordan_U,  thanks but im just gonna have to reboot to windows when i need it
[03:25] <azizLIGHT> UserUS: which one do i choose from here: http://i.imgur.com/nuz28WK.png or http://i.imgur.com/ZMOABts.png
[03:31] <UserUS> azizLIGHT: well the first option will attempt to send it to the printer via usb, the second sends it via DNS from the router. And there are 3 options, but if it's your home network I'd either pick the first one to send it to the router which will send it to the pprinter, or the second which will send a wifi direct print
[03:37] <dagerik> what must i do do use nginx rmtp module?
[03:38] <dagerik> is it compiled with it?
[03:54] <SchrodingersScat> dagerik: neat!
[03:56] <SchrodingersScat> dagerik: 15.10 nginx does not seem to have this
[03:57] <SchrodingersScat> dagerik: https://github.com/arut/nginx-rtmp-module
[04:02] <RainMan28> I am trying to use cron to stop and start a service at certain times. I am trying to use the command /usr/sbin/service servicename stop in crontab, and I get the error: myservice: unrecognized service
[04:05] <usr13> RainMan28: Try it in a terminal
[04:05] <usr13> RainMan28: Test the commands
[04:06] <RainMan28> usr13: yep, works in terminal with that command, so does: service servicename stop
[04:07] <ganeshaditya1> Hey! Previously I had gnome ubuntu installed on my laptop and I didn't like it so I installed unity by doing a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. The problem is that I am not able to make compiz the default window manager so my laptop currently looks like the ugly love child of unity and gnome!
[04:07] <ganeshaditya1> I tried compiz --replace but it throws like gazzilion errors!
[04:07] <usr13> RainMan28: I don't know then...
[04:08] <RainMan28> usr13: ah ok, thanks anyways
[04:09] <UserUS> ganeshaditya1: why not?
[04:09] <fallkin> i just got ubuntu but i am happy with it. it allows me to go on the internet and access my files easily cant complain
[04:09] <wileee> ganeshaditya1, If you can choose unity at login and get the whole desktop compiz is running.
[04:09] <fallkin> this chat thing is cool too
[04:09] <fallkin> if i could figure it out
[04:09] <SchrodingersScat> fallkin: you're doing it now, live!
[04:10] <fallkin> lol
[04:10] <fallkin> why do my words show up grey
[04:10] <wileee> ganeshaditya1, So, did you install the gnome fallback and used compiz there?
[04:10] <fallkin> do i need to register my name on this server
[04:11] <ganeshaditya1_> wileee no, do I need to install gnome fallback?
[04:11] <goddard> fallkin: its your client that displays things
[04:11] <fallkin> so i need to register my client
[04:11] <wileee> ganeshaditya1_, no, just questions, trying to understand.
[04:15] <wileee> fallkin, there's no place to register the client, you would tweak it for colors.
[04:15] <fallkin> ok thanks for the answer
[04:15] <fallkin> what is the most popular chat network in here
[04:16] <wileee> fallkin, Registering on freenode has some advantages however.
[04:16] <plumplump> Hello.  I've got ubuntu 15.04 installed on a spinning-platter drive, and I wanted to clone the installation to this SSD I just got.  Is it best to do a fresh install in this case?
[04:16] <UserUS> all of irc or freenode
[04:16] <RainMan28> I am trying to use cron to stop and start a service at certain times. I am trying to use the command /usr/sbin/service servicename stop in crontab, and I get the error: myservice: unrecognized service
[04:16] <LambdaComplex> plumplump: rsync could work
[04:16] <wileee> plumplump, fresh is no better, unless it is for you.
[04:17] <LambdaComplex> plumplump: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_system_backup_with_rsync#With_a_single_command
[04:17] <fallkin> registered
[04:17] <wileee> plumplump, I would clone it myself if doable in size, time...etc.
[04:17] <plumplump> wilee, LambdaComplex ok thx I guess I was wondering if there are any SSD-specific system settings
[04:18] <plumplump> I will do the rsync clone, thx L)
[04:18] <wileee> plumplump, Not really, everything is built in, but one can tweak at their leisure.
[04:19] <wileee> I like my SSD, makes my old toshiba run nicely
[04:22] <plumplump> just replacing the 5400rpm drive in this old beater
[04:39] <mechanicalmayhem> What up Ubuntu!
[04:39] <mechanicalmayhem> lol
[04:45] <ItsMeLenny> hello! i've just installed ubuntu 15.10 (very fast to boot =D), i've forgotten how to disable the nouveau drivers, and ive googled it, and added all the things to modprobe and they still dont disable
[04:47] <ItsMeLenny> or does my blacklist file need to begin with the word blacklist?
[04:49] <shortstraw8> blacklist should be there yes
[04:50] <shortstraw8> blacklist nouveau
[04:50] <shortstraw8> Like that
[04:51] <DennyDai> hi
[04:54] <lns> Ey buenas noches¡
[05:07] <tawan> AIM - allow my wife on her iPad to watch movies stored on my Ubuntu laptop ... Solutions - ??
[05:11] <r2me2> I am not sure if there are ipad DLNA apps
[05:11] <r2me2> but if there are, you could run minidlna
[05:12] <systemd0wn> Question: I was in the middle of upgrading to 15.10 and no kidding the power died. So booting the new kernel panicked, booting old kernel works but now if I try to run dist-upgrade it sees the lock and won't let me.
[05:12] <r2me2> I use plex
[05:12] <somsip> tawan: Remote Files Free and Samba will work, but this is offtopic so I'll say no more
[05:13] <systemd0wn> So I guess the question is what the heck do I do? Just delete the lock file and try again?
[05:13] <tawan> somsip, Offtopic really? Surely I'm running Samba on Ubuntu or you think I should look for #Samba or similar?
[05:13] <somsip> tawan: you can ask how to set up samba here. Discussions about iOS apps would be OT
[05:15] <r2me2> Are there any known issues with vino-server sessions being read only in 14.04 LTS?
[05:17] <r2me2> When connecting with remmina tunneled through SSH from 14.04 to 14.04, the screen is viewable, and can see the mouse cursor, but the session doesn't accept mouse or keyboard input. Anyone have any experience with this configuration?
[05:18] <toeshred> is it possible to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10? i tried `sudo do-release-upgrade` but it tells me there is no new release found.
[05:21] <somsip> toeshred: LTS will only upgrade to LTS using do-release-upgrade IIRC
[05:21] <toeshred> somsip: ah i see. i heard of people going from 14.04 to 14.10 in the past though.
[05:22] <somsip> toeshred: probably using some other method
[05:22] <somsip> toeshred: eg (could be unsafe - no idea): http://blog.zloether.com/2010/02/upgrade-ubuntu-lts-release-to-non-lts.html
[05:23] <smokeless> what's current LTS?
[05:23] <somsip> smokeless: 14.04
[05:24] <rww> !upgradeofflts | toeshred
[05:25] <toeshred> ah ty rww
[05:25] <rww> which appears to be pretty much what that blog entries does. should be fine.
[05:27] <toeshred> rww: yep that did the trick.
[05:29] <it_> Hi. I am participating in a class I don't really meet the requirements to 100% .. The teacher told me I should be fine though. We are using an Image of his virtual machine and we will program on a board he supplied us. I am having trouble setting it up though.. Yes, I could ask the teacher, he isn't here though and an email will take time to get answered..
[05:29] <somsip> it_: is there a question in there?
[05:29] <it_> Not yet, still typing
[05:29] <somsip> it_: make it to the point then. eh?
[05:31] <it_> It says the best network setup is a separate physical connection between the workstation and the board. The instructions we've got assume the interface eth1 and the private address range 192.168.2.0/24. I am not quite sure what that means but I have added a "Network Adapter" in VMWare Player. I am not sure if I need to configure something more in VMWare though... (There's more following after this)
[05:32] <it_> Oh and we should check that the subnet does not conflict with the normal network setup (eth0)
[05:32] <smokeless> it_ so you're configuring a secondary eth interface on your network?
[05:33] <it_> Yes.. Just keep in mind I basically don't have much clue about this ... The class recommends having had a class on telematics, which I will have in 1 year .. :c
[05:33] <smokeless> it_ your subnet mask is 255.255.255.0
[05:34] <smokeless> it_ is what the /24 means
[05:34] <it_> Yes that's what I could find out from the next instructions, though I'm not sure how that's what it means?
[05:34] <UserUS> 4 subnets
[05:34] <UserUS> 6 sorry
[05:34] <it_> I mean I can imagine 24 being the first 24 bits set..., but how would you differ any sequence like 0101? (If that's even valid..)
[05:35] <UserUS> convert the binary to decimanl
[05:35] <it_> and add up?
[05:36] <smokeless> it_: or just check an octet chart thing.
[05:38] <it_> Not too clear yet.. I might have to read this up somewhere..
[05:38] <UserUS> It_:  http://www.binaryhexconverter.com/binary-to-decimal-converter
[05:39] <it_> Well yes, but I'm not too sure what to convert?
[05:39] <it_> I don't see how 255.255.255.0 -> 24
[05:39] <UserUS> if you go for the comptia you should :P
[05:39] <UserUS> thatts the mask
[05:39] <UserUS> default.default.default.0-255
[05:40] <it_> Btw before you spend more time, you realize I don't really know what a subnet exactly is/what it's used for?
[05:40] <smokeless> it_:http://jodies.de/ipcalc
[05:41] <smokeless> it_: each portion of an IP address is 8 bits.
[05:41] <smokeless> it_: so /24 indicates 24 bits on. From left to right. For your subnet.
[05:41] <UserUS> yes
[05:42] <UserUS> 24 addresses
[05:42] <it_> So I suppose a subnet 255.0.255.255 is considered invalid?
[05:42] <UserUS> .1 - 24
[05:42] <UserUS> As far as I am aware yes
[05:42] <it_> And are numbers other than 0 and 255 allowed?
[05:42] <UserUS> no, and 255 is reserved typically
[05:42] <it_> I see
[05:42] <UserUS> it says 255 but it means 254
[05:43] <UserUS> 255 is usually reserved for a router or important item
[05:43] <it_> So the number can only be ( 0, 8, 16, 24, 32 ) ?
[05:43] <r2me2> it_:  you are going down the rabbit hole. Your prof is just telling you that for his instructions to work, your VM needs to be configured on 192.168.2.x
[05:43] <toeshred> just got a dpkg error during a 14.04 -> 14.10 upgrade, and now it is reverting the entire upgrade process.
[05:43] <smokeless> it_: r2me2 is correct.
[05:44] <r2me2> likely because the hardware you are connecting to is going to be on the same subnet
[05:44] <r2me2> so your vm will be able to talk to it
[05:44] <toeshred> after a failed upgrade, now it is telling me there is no such command as reboot... i think the OS was hosed.
[05:44] <r2me2> so if the hw you are connecting to is 192.168.2.10
[05:45] <smokeless> toeshred did you try shutdown -t: now
[05:45] <UserUS> its on subnet 2 machine 10
[05:45] <r2me2> then just set your VM interface to be 192.168.2.11
[05:45] <r2me2> and pick a subnet mask of 255.255.255.0
[05:45] <toeshred> smokeless: i just chose to shutdown using the GUI
[05:46] <smokeless> toeshred: try it with terminal, probably need to sudo
[05:46] <toeshred> no shutdown command either
[05:47] <UserUS> sudo shutdown now
[05:47] <smokeless> toeshred you used sudo?
[05:47] <devslash2> i need help. ive had a problem just start tonight where when i boot ubuntu, both my displays dont work. ive obviously checked the hdmi cable and moved it to a different slot. i can also boot windows on the same pc and it works fine so its something in ubuntu
[05:47] <toeshred> yeah using sudo... there is no reboot or shutdown command. since this was after attempting a do-release-upgrade on 14.04, i am thinking the upgrade broke my system.
[05:48] <UserUS> toeshred: Ivedone 3 updates broke every one
[05:48] <smokeless> toeshred apt-get fix?
[05:49] <UserUS> devsplash2: the forums and wiki will say it's your drivers...try rebooting, with the hdmi plugged in
[05:50] <toeshred> trying an apt-get dist-upgrade -f
[05:50] <toeshred> seems to be installing a bunch of packages that i thought i should have had, like xorg-server.
[05:50] <toeshred> well thats the last time i ever try upgrading an lts.
[05:51] <it_> Well the teacher gave us the commands to set up things. But since I didn't have an interface eth1, I simply added a "Network Adapter" in VMWare Player and set it to "Host-only", not even sure that's the right setting. We were told to use "ifconfig eth1 192.168.2.1" to configure the adapter.
[05:52] <it_> It's recommended to add it to /etc/network/interfaces to automate this. So the teacher gave us following settings: http://pastebin.com/g4xrc4rP.
[05:52] <NeoFrontier> Greetings. Is there a way to hide the top status bar like you can with the side one ?
[05:52] <Ben64> toeshred: by default 14.04 won't upgrade until 16.04 comes out, 14.10 is already EOL
[05:53] <r2me2> it_: by using the terminal, your prof has given you the command to create an interface with 192.168.2.1
[05:55] <r2me2> it_: the pastebin is essentially showing you what you need to put in /etc/nw/interfaces so that it starts at boot
[05:56] <it_> Then comes something I don't understand at all, so I will simply paste it here if you allow me .. http://pastebin.com/9jFkPXcb
[05:56] <r2me2> it_: are you using the terminal?
[05:57] <it_> Uhm, the shell? Yes
[05:57] <r2me2> it_:
[05:58] <smokeless> it_: doesn't the vm software already handle NAT?
[05:58] <smokeless> it_: nm
[05:58] <r2me2> the second paste is configuring firewall rules to send stuff to the internet
[05:58] <it_> Idk .. :c
[05:58] <UserUS> typcially you have to turn it on or off
[05:58] <it_> I have two network adapters in vmware, one is set to NAT and the second to "Host-only"
[05:59] <it_> The second one is the one I added, not sure if host-only is the good setting though
[05:59] <Ben64> it_: seems more like you want ##networking than #ubuntu
[05:59] <UserUS> you;d need to use a static nat then
[05:59] <r2me2> it_: paste up what from the terminal: ifconfig
[06:00] <it_> Anyway my /etc/network/interfaces file looks like the following ... (paste following), when I restart the virtual machine, I receive the message about network configuration and that it's waiting up to 60 more seconds for it.. When the machine starts up, I only have the loopback interface :C
[06:00] <r2me2> I would say remove the Host only
[06:00] <r2me2> and add per your instructions
[06:00] <it_> Remove the network adapter in vmware? Or just the host-only? What would I set it to? (I have NAT, bridged and host-only. Bridged does not seem to work with our school wifi setup)
[06:01] <r2me2> it_:
[06:01] <r2me2> post up tour /etc/network/interfaces
[06:02] <r2me2> I am not that familiar with vmware
[06:02] <it_> This is the /etc/network/interfaces which makes no interfaces but lo show up: http://pastebin.com/QvPtQLbJ
[06:02] <nabeen> hi. i did a `chsh` command to change my shell to tmux from zsh. Now, the terminal fails to open. How can i reset the default shell without using the command line?
[06:03] <it_> Currently I have the "new lines" I've added commented out, the output of ifconfig looks like this: http://pastebin.com/VbRJU6vD
[06:03] <it_> (The output of ifconfig with the lines commented out, not when they are uncommented)
[06:04] <Ben64> it_: what are you trying to accomplish
[06:05] <it_> Connect some board from school to the virtual machine. The teacher gave us these instructions and since I don't meet the requirements for this class I don't understand them. I could ask him but sending an email would take a while to get the answer and the next class will be in a week ..
[06:05] <Ben64> 'some board from school' ?
[06:06] <chingao> it_: like a Raspberry Pi or Arduino?
[06:06] <it_> Yes, I suppose it will be this or something similiar to it (http://beagleboard.org/BLACK). It has a few more things added though..
[06:06] <Ben64> i just don't see how this is on topic here in #ubuntu
[06:08] <nabeen> hi. i did a `chsh` command to change my shell to tmux from zsh. Now, the terminal fails to open. How can i reset the default shell without using the command line? I tried `ctrl-alt-f1`, it asks for username and password, and loops again.
[06:08] <chingao> it_: I assume you have some version of Ubuntu up and running in a VMware virtual machine?
[06:08] <Ben64> nabeen: use recovery mode
[06:09] <nils_> so when are we going to see linux 4.2 available for users of trusty?
[06:09] <spinoza> exit
[06:09] <it_> Yes, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS, VMWarePlayer 6.0.7
[06:09] <nyanyooo> hy
[06:09] <Ben64> nils_: 3 months officially
[06:09] <nabeen> Ben64: you mean like use a different kernel? sorry, i'm not sure what you mean by recovery mode. my laptop came with ubuntu installed, and it boots straight to ubuntu
[06:09] <nyanyooo> im newbie
[06:10] <Ben64> !recovery | nabeen
[06:10] <nyanyooo> how use ubuntu first
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> !manual | nyanyooo
[06:10] <Ben64> it_: really seems like with the questions you're asking you want ##networking channel or maybe vmware support
[06:10] <nyanyooo> please explain 4 me
[06:10] <nyanyooo> how to use ubuntu first
[06:10] <lotuspsychje> nyanyooo: ask your question first
[06:11] <nils_> Ben64, thanks
[06:12] <nyanyooo> how to look for ping in dekstop like windows alt+r ?
[06:12] <nyanyooo> ping www.google.com -t ?
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> nyanyooo: open a terminal and ping
[06:13] <nyanyooo> whr is terminal position
[06:13] <nyanyooo> im use ubuntu 15.04
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> nyanyooo: try the ubuntu manual first
[06:14] <lotuspsychje> nyanyooo: read and learn a bit before you start
[06:15] <nyanyooo> thx before lotus
[06:17] <Guest29816> hai
[06:18] <fauen> herrow
[06:18] <Guest29816> my name nexus
[06:18] <fauen> o_O
[06:27] <devslash2> i need help. ive had a problem just start tonight where when i boot ubuntu, both my displays dont work. ive obviously checked the hdmi cable and moved it to a different slot. i can also boot windows on the same pc and it works fine so its something in ubuntu
[06:27] <systemd0wn> So my pc shut off while upgrading to 15.10. I came back to see a kernel panic when trying to boot new kernel. However, booting old kernel worked. How can I see how far it got? What logs should I be looking at?
[06:29] <wileee> systemd0wn, I would run sudo apt-get -f install and see if it finishes
[06:32] <systemd0wn> Wileee, It says 0 for everything. :/ but if it's done, which maybe it was, I have kernel issues.
[06:35] <inter> monkey d.luffy
[06:37] <wileee> systemd0wn, Might try 'apt-get install linux-headers-generic' not sure otherwise, be sure it is panic not just a black screen from a driver issue...etc.
[06:38] <agent_white> Evenin/Mornin folks
[06:38] <sparr> my core dumps are being piped to apport. I just had a program crash and core dump. How can I find the dump, where did apport put it?
[06:46] <fauen> hi agent_white
[06:48] <metaphysician> linux-generic-lts-utopic in 14.04 will be supported till what time?
[06:48] <hateball> !lts | metaphysician
[06:50] <metaphysician> hateball: 3.16 kernel will be maintained for 14.04 till 14.04 EOLs?
[06:52] <hateball> metaphysician: oh I didnt see the utopic bit, no that only has 9 months support like the release itself
[06:52] <hateball> metaphysician: "apt-cache show linux-generic-lts-utopic" and note the Supported: at the end
[06:52] <systemd0wn> Wileee, thanks. I'll look. I know it said panic but the resolution was odd so I couldn't read it all. Should that be stored in /var/log/Kern.log ?
[06:52] <wileee> not sure
[06:52] <hateball> metaphysician: compare to apt-cache show linux-generic-lts-trusty
[07:02] <rickardve> someone that managed to install 15.10 using preseed?
[07:06] <Guest18> good morning =)
[07:09] <cynixx3> Good morning Guest18
[07:09] <Guest18> there are a lot of pep on here =o
[07:10] <cynixx3> Guest18, do you have a question?
[07:11] <Guest18> kinda =p
[07:11] <Guest18> purchased a little mini pc but cant for the life of me figure out why it wont install ubuntu properly
[07:12] <cynixx3> Do you get any kind of error? What do you mean by properly?
[07:13] <Guest18> windows 10 is installed on the unit . it shipped with win 8 win 8 eats up too much resources especially since it only has 2gb of ram
[07:13] <Guest18> So  i created a USB installer . went into bios made the proper boot changes tried to get it to boot but no luck =(
[07:14] <cynixx3> so your boot process does not let you select to boot off of usb?
[07:15] <Guest18> in the Bios im able to select it
[07:15] <Hekau> why xubuntu does not have hibernate option? :/
[07:15] <Guest18> but even after selecting it just skips it and boots win 10
[07:16] <cynixx3> DId you disable secure boot and fast boot from windows 10?
[07:16] <bujji> how to play arf files in ubuntu
[07:17] <bujji> i had wine software installed on my machine
[07:17] <bujji> o/
[07:17] <Guest18> i have disabled secure boot and fastboot in the bios not from win 10
[07:19] <Guest58717> May I have assistance creating proper partitions to run Ubuntu beside my existing Win 7 installation? I am currently on a Live USB
[07:20] <curiousx> Guest58717: yes, i can help you with that
[07:21] <Guest58717> Thank you, curiousx
[07:21] <curiousx> Guest58717: just send me pictures of what you see and what do you wanna do
[07:21] <Guest58717> So I am in gparted at the moment.
[07:21] <Hekau> how to enable hibernate on xubuntu 15.04?
[07:21] <Guest58717> I just took a screenshot
[07:21] <curiousx> send me a picture
[07:21] <hateball> Guest58717: The installer should offer to set that up for you, no need to partition manually prior unless you want to do something like put /home on its own partition
[07:22] <curiousx> Guest58717: ok, upload it a imgur
[07:22] <cynixx3> Guest18, you may need to check that your USB is a proper boot disk, If that fails you I would look towards the Bios manufacturer.
[07:22] <Guest58717> I sent it on here
[07:22] <Guest58717> I can do Imgur though
[07:22] <Kartagis> do imgur
[07:23] <curiousx> yes, please, imgur
[07:23] <zamba> hi guys.. we're running a ubuntu desktop machine, but we don't want the user to be able to modify any network stuff.. how can we completely disable network manager and let network scripts handle the network connectivity?
[07:23] <cynixx3> Hekau, some systems do not allow the hibernation feature due to a hardware restriction.
[07:23] <m712> 15.10 upgrade is going painful so far
[07:23] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/edit
[07:24] <Guest18> @cynixx3 this is the unit https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=vensmile+ipc002&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
[07:24] <Ben64> zamba: don't give them sudo
[07:24] <zamba> Ben64: what about just disabling network-manager?
[07:24] <cynixx3> Hekau, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/Hibernate
[07:24] <Ben64> zamba: no
[07:24] <curiousx> Guest58717: that link wont work, that link is somethin' related to "edit"
[07:24] <Guest58717> I deleted my old Linux Mint partitions and made one unallocated space for Ubuntu, leaving behind a Win7 partition, and a free NTFS partition where I access music, and other media separate from the OS partitions
[07:24] <Guest58717> Oh, one moment
[07:25] <hateball> zamba, Ben64: You don't need sudo to add things like SSIDs tho. You could remove the nm-applet and let network-manager handle things on the backend still
[07:25] <curiousx> Guest58717: ok
[07:25] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/H0uAKIU
[07:25] <Guest58717> Does that work?
[07:26] <curiousx> Guest58717: yes, now fire up the ubuntu installer
[07:26] <m712> welp, kdeinit crashed
[07:26] <curiousx> Guest58717: do you wanna make manual paritions right ?
[07:26] <SCHAAP137> good morning, everyone
[07:27] <cynixx3> Guest18, You should look into UEFI boot priorities.
[07:28] <Guest18> what do you mean ..
[07:28] <Guest58717> curiousx I'm not sure. So long as my swap space is 8GB (same as my RAM), and the bootloader is where it should be (sda I believe), I suppose Ubuntu can do it for me
[07:28] <Guest18> when using the USB stick it installs EFI boot part
[07:29] <cynixx3> guest18, bios should have an option for usb boot and UEFI usb boot.
[07:29] <Guest58717> Maybe I'm overly concerned. I was working on this earlier and Ubuntu sort of screwed it up. Maybe because I didn't delete the old partitions first
[07:29] <Guest18> i can check .. stand by
[07:29] <Guest58717> Will Ubuntu LIVE create the swap partition, bootloader partition, etc?
[07:30] <cynixx3> yes Guest58717
[07:30] <Ben64> Guest58717: make them yourself if you're so concerned about how the layout will be
[07:30] <curiousx> Guest58717: yes, ubuntu can do all that automaticaly, but in that way it is better to expand the windows partition to get rid of the unallocated
[07:30] <zamba> hateball: but if you hate network manager, how do you solve it then? :)
[07:31] <curiousx> Guest58717: or you can do manual parition usin' the unallocated one
[07:31] <Guest58717> Ben 64 That is my sentiment, yes
[07:31] <Guest58717> curiousx I'd like to. I enjoy learning, and doing it myself allows me to retain this stuff as I go
[07:32] <Guest58717> But, I think I need slight supervision is all
[07:32] <Guest58717> I screwed it up earlier. I think I was too tired.
[07:32] <curiousx> Guest58717: ok then, let do manual and use the unallocated, send pictures where you are
[07:32] <ducasse> zamba: /etc/network/interfaces
[07:33] <Ben64> zamba: what is your actual goal
[07:33] <Guest58717> http://i.imgur.com/H0uAKIU.png?1
[07:33] <hateball> zamba: I'm not sure why you hate it, it's perfectly scriptable. And as others have asked, what are you trying to acheive?
[07:33] <Ben64> Guest58717: run the installer
[07:33] <curiousx> Guest58717: i mean, start the ubuntu installer, then send pictures
[07:33] <hateball> zamba: nmcli is your friend
[07:34] <Guest58717> ... I see
[07:34] <Guest58717> One moment please
[07:34] <curiousx> Guest58717: np
[07:34] <zamba> i'm trying to not let the user handle networking at all.. it should all happen under the hood
[07:34] <Ben64> zamba: but why
[07:35] <Guest58717> http://i.imgur.com/4Quwfrk.png
[07:35] <zamba> Ben64: because the user shouldn't handle networking
[07:36] <Ben64> zamba: why
[07:36] <Guest18> Quiet boot is enabled Fast boot is enabled USB suspport is Full initial
[07:36] <zamba> Ben64: oh my
[07:36] <zamba> Ben64: because we say so.. it's policy..
[07:36] <Ben64> zamba: explain yourself and you might get a good answer
[07:36] <Guest18> my boot options are Windows boot manager , and UEFI built in EFI
[07:36] <zamba> Ben64: it's a server machine.. with operators using the machine for work..
[07:36] <curiousx> Guest58717: ok, that is ok, only i think you shoud select install third part software
[07:36] <Guest58717> Please explain curiousx.
[07:37] <zamba> Ben64: so it's running ubuntu desktop, but it's a physical machine and the operators shouldn't bother with networking, as it should always be there
[07:37] <ducasse> zamba: just set the network up in /etc/network/interfaces, then you don't need network manager
[07:37] <Ben64> zamba: so tell them not to bother with networking?
[07:37] <SCHAAP137> man ip
[07:38] <Guest58717> Not the 'how', but rather the reasoning
[07:38] <curiousx> Guest58717: well, it's already explained, you what below "Intall third-party sofware" that will install some extra codecs to play .mp3 files
[07:38] <Ben64> Guest58717: it installs things most people want, but aren't "free"
[07:38] <Guest58717> Ok. Will do. I understand codecs to generally be a good thing
[07:39] <curiousx> you see* what's...
[07:39] <cynixx3> Guest18, You need to use windows to unlock fastboot in the bios. then you should be able to select uefi usb.
[07:40] <Guest18> fast boot is Enabled
[07:40] <yigal> hello I have an issue with dependencies.  I just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 which is using Python 3.5 by default, however the dev. package is python3-dev which is stuck at 3.4.  I can simply change Pip to use 3.4 but is there a sane way to upgrade fully to a dev. environment of Python using 3.5?
[07:40] <yigal> python3-dev's Launchpad page https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+package/python3-dev
[07:41] <Guest58717> curiousx http://i.imgur.com/O7grtEY.png
[07:41] <curiousx> Guest58717: select "Something Else" then "Install now"
[07:42] <Guest58717> May be from my earlier attempt. I haven't confirmed the changes to my partitions yet. The image, http://i.imgur.com/H0uAKIU.png?1 shows what I think it ought to be
[07:43] <Ben64> Guest58717: well its missing ubuntu partitions
[07:43] <Guest58717> Should I apply all operations first?
[07:43] <Ben64> not while you're running the installer :|
[07:43] <Ben64> close gparted and do it from the installer
[07:43] <cynixx3> Guest18, you need fastboot and secure boot disabled to change the boot sequence. Try this in conjunction with the Dual boot guide, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#SecureBoot
[07:44] <Guest58717> Okay. I just understand gparted better than the one with the installer is all
[07:44] <Guest58717> On it now
[07:45] <Guest58717> http://i.imgur.com/OCEbS2J.png
[07:45] <Guest58717> I've cancelled gparted operations by closing it
[07:45] <Guest58717> I don't understand the installer's version very well
[07:45] <Guest58717> The interface is more... messy
[07:45] <Ben64> its the same information
[07:45] <curiousx> Guest58717: select "sdb7" then click on "+"
[07:46] <Guest58717> I understand that, but the way it is presented to a neophyte like myself matters
[07:46] <Guest58717> ok
[07:46] <Ben64> curiousx: i think Guest58717 wants to remove the ubuntu partitions
[07:46] <curiousx> Ben64: oh!, forgot that
[07:46] <Guest58717> xD
[07:47] <Guest18> i just read that people need to use an OTG cable to finish initial installation . its also used to charge the mini pc unit
[07:47] <curiousx> Guest58717: "sdb5" then click on "-"
[07:47] <curiousx> theb "sdb6" then click on "-"
[07:47] <yigal> dang this is a bummer and an oversight apparently requiring the upgrade to Python 3.5 without providing the header files, i.e. upgrading python3-dev to Python 3.5 :(
[07:47] <curiousx> then*
[07:48] <cynixx3> Are you able to boot off usb now Guest18?
[07:48] <Guest18> no it just skips the boot and goes to the windwos boot manager
[07:49] <Ben64> yigal: not sure where you're seeing that 3.5 is "required"
[07:49] <Guest58717> http://i.imgur.com/EKuSNX7.png curiousx Ok
[07:50] <Ben64> Guest58717: you didn't remove sda5
[07:50] <Ben64> sdb5*
[07:50] <Guest58717> ok
[07:50] <cynixx3> Guest18,Did you disable fastboot?
[07:50] <Guest18> yes
[07:50] <curiousx> Guest58717: well, we better do that task usin' gparted
[07:51] <Guest58717> Oh?
[07:51] <Ben64> ...no its almost done
[07:51] <cynixx3> and you have the uefi usb option?
[07:51] <Guest18> i dont even know if ubuntu supports the graphics
[07:51] <Guest58717> ...
[07:51] <Ben64> literally two more clicks
[07:51] <Guest58717> I'm all about gparted, but with guidance, I don't mind using the installer's version
[07:51] <Guest58717> Your call guys
[07:51] <Ben64> you need to use the installer anyway, might as well do it all now
[07:52] <curiousx> Guest58717: please open Gparted then send a picture
[07:52] <agent_white> Anyone getting spammed by "at0mxxxxxx" bots?
[07:52] <Ben64> curiousx: why!
[07:52] <cynixx3> Guest18, Do you have the UFEI USB boot option?
[07:52] <Guest58717> On it
[07:53] <Ben64> Guest58717: remove sdb5 and you'll be where you were at with gparted before
[07:53] <Ben64> its pointless using gparted when you'll NEED to use this installer screen anyway!
[07:53] <curiousx> Ben64: becouse, gparted will make just one whole unalocated partition
[07:53] <Ben64> no it won't
[07:54] <curiousx> Ben64: the install already knows that he has 3 partitions
[07:54] <Ben64> you're not making any sense
[07:54] <curiousx> i mean 3 ext4 partitions
[07:54] <Ben64> yeah thats why he needs to delete them
[07:54] <curiousx> Ben64: ok then, go ahead Ben64
[07:54] <Ben64> click on sdb5, hit -, DONE
[07:55] <Ben64> i don't know why you're trying to make it more complicated
[07:55] <yigal> Ben64: yah my bad, it appears upon upgrading pip using it defaults to selecting the latest Python installed, which is now Python 3.5 for 15.10.
[07:55] <pagios> hi all, i have a question about the "mv" command, when i do an mv and stop it in the middle does it delete the original files? or it only deletes them when the mv command completed? like a cp and delete?
[07:55] <Guest58717> http://i.imgur.com/7MhDbek.png
[07:56] <Guest58717> Ok, anyway. Here I am
[07:56] <Ben64> Guest58717: why
[07:56] <Guest58717> Where were we?
[07:56] <Guest58717> Shall I close it?
[07:56] <Ben64> all you had to do was click two things
[07:56] <Guest58717> I'm still in the installer
[07:56] <Guest58717> Minimized
[07:56] <Ben64> close gparted
[07:57] <Guest58717> Done
[07:57] <Ben64> click on sdb5, hit -, DONE
[07:58] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/XcWZm6a'
[07:58] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/XcWZm6a
[07:58] <tomasz_> hello
[07:58] <fauen> hi tomasz_
[07:58] <curiousx> oh! Ben64 you was right :D
[07:58] <Ben64> Guest58717: there you go, now you can create partitions however you want, and choose where to put the bootloader
[07:58] <Ben64> curiousx: i always am
[07:58] <curiousx> i didn't new the installer could do it that clean
[07:58] <tomasz_> how are you today?
[07:59] <Guest58717> Hey, I thank you both for your help thus far
[07:59] <fauen> I'm all good, how are you?
[07:59] <tomasz_> i'm fine too
[07:59] <tomasz_> thx
[07:59] <Guest58717> So swap and bootloader partitions will be made upon installation?
[08:00] <Ben64> no you have to make any partitions you want
[08:00] <curiousx> Guest58717: xD np, mmm... select "free space" then click on "+"
[08:00] <Guest58717> How do I insure my swap is equal to my memory, etc?
[08:00] <Guest58717> Ok
[08:00] <Ben64> Guest58717: so... what partitions do you want
[08:00] <tomasz_> could you tell my how i can open my weather indicator in terminal?
[08:00] <tomasz_> me*
[08:02] <Guest58717> 500gb Hardrive. I want to keep 150GB Win7, 280GB for media storage (my artwork, music, documentaries, etc)
[08:02] <Guest58717> The rest is Linux
[08:02] <Guest58717> That is the goal anyway
[08:02] <yigal> Ben64: so a simple "sed -ir '/python/ s/(python3.)[0-9]/\14/p' /usr/local/bin/pip3" did the trick :)
[08:02] <Guest58717> And I understand the amounts may be rough due to bootloader partition, swap, etc
[08:03] <Ben64> yeah, that already exists, what linux partitions do you want
[08:03] <Guest58717> Everything that remains once swap and bootloader are good
[08:03] <Ben64> you plan on hibernating?
[08:04] <TechnoCrunch> Hey guys can I just ask a question what is in your ubuntu live usb boot folder?
[08:04] <Guest58717> Sometimes, assuming it works. Couldn't use it in Mint without issues. Maybe my error, idk
[08:04] <Guest58717> Would like to have it
[08:04] <TechnoCrunch> and then casper
[08:04] <Ben64> Guest58717: how much ram do you have
[08:04] <Guest58717> 8gb
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> TechnoCrunch: whats your purpose with this?
[08:05] <Guest18> is ATOM intel Z3735F supported with ubuntu
[08:05] <Ben64> Guest58717: so make a partition in the free space, and leave at least 8GB left over, then make a partition 8GB or more in the remaining space
[08:05] <TechnoCrunch> I'm just giving everyhting a try to make my mac boot my ubuntu live usb
[08:05] <Guest58717> On it
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> !mac | TechnoCrunch can this help?
[08:06] <curiousx> Ben64: well, i would suggest 15 gb for /  in case he install lots of software of heavy ones -.-
[08:07] <TechnoCrunch> Just a question why does it take me to ubuntu 10.04 for my macbook pro?
[08:07] <curiousx> or* heavy...
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> TechnoCrunch: 10.04 is end of life mate
[08:08] <Guest58717> I really suck at the installer's disk gui
[08:08] <soupnanodesukar> Remember to overprovision if you use a ssd.  The guided install should really come with a box to tick for that.
[08:08] <TechnoCrunch> well that what the website says
[08:08] <Guest58717> I don't understand why it shows an extra partition in ntfs
[08:08] <Guest58717> I don't recall making one
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> TechnoCrunch: yeah the mac trigger is bit outdated sorry
[08:08] <yigal> TechnoCrunch: if you want to use the LTS use 14.04, see the release cycle here, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[08:09] <curiousx> Guest58717: windows makes partitions by itself, recovery partitions and like that
[08:09] <Guest58717> Now I see
[08:09] <TechnoCrunch> It's fine lotuspsychje I've tried about everything I say about cause there might be something out of nowhere that could fix my problem
[08:09] <Guest58717> No, it is showing my external hardrive
[08:09] <Guest18> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2252391 looks like im not installing ubuntu =(
[08:09] <Guest58717> Gparted let me exclude it within the ui
[08:09] <Guest58717> Stuff like that throws me
[08:10] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/XcWZm6a
[08:10] <TechnoCrunch> For me Ubuntu just hangs at the splash screen aka the boot up screen with the 5 dots
[08:10] <Guest58717> What is /dev/sda and /dec/sdb? They are blank
[08:10] <yigal> TechnoCrunch: are you using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages ?
[08:10] <Ben64> Guest58717: sda is another drive in your computer
[08:11] <TechnoCrunch> To help me install a end of life OS? no
[08:11] <Guest58717> Okay, the external HD I have
[08:11] <Guest58717> sdb is my 500gb hardrive then
[08:11] <yigal> TechnoCrunch: what wiki are you using?
[08:11] <Guest58717> I'm starting to understand better
[08:11] <TechnoCrunch> Not using a wiki
[08:11] <wileee> Technobliterator, there are links on that page to trusty depending on the mac you have
[08:12] <yigal> face palm
[08:12] <Guest58717> So I need to leave 8000MB for swap on my system
[08:12] <TechnoCrunch> I'm using google and trying multiple methods to fix my boot up hang
[08:12] <TechnoCrunch> None have fixed it yet
[08:12] <Ben64> Guest58717: at least 8192MB
[08:15] <Guest58717> So I should make a partition, leaving 8192 for swap? Will bootloader (grub or whatever) make a space on its own?
[08:15] <cynixx3> Guest18, That link is a year old and its bleading edge information is no longer valid. Ubuntu can boot 64bit EFI no problem and most processors are well supported.
[08:15] <Guest58717> Ben64^
[08:15] <Guest18> im using an INTEL ATOM Z3735F
[08:15] <curiousx> Guest58717: you could now the exact amount of swap you need if you would know how much ram (all togeather) do you use havin' all your sofware you run at the same time
[08:15] <curiousx> could know*
[08:16] <Guest18> i only have 2gb of ram should i make a usb stick for 32 bit or 64 bit ?
[08:16] <TechnoCrunch> 32 bit
[08:17] <Guest18> kk downloading ubuntu desktop 15.10 32bit
[08:18] <Ben64> Guest58717: i'd go a bit more than 8192 just to be safe, you need to choose which drive to install grub on to, since you said sda is external, you probably want sdb. grub installs into the mbr, you don't need a space for it
[08:18] <cynixx3>   Guest18, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/dmi/4103/dmi%3AIntel(R)Atom(TM)CPUZ3735F@1.33GHz/
[08:18] <Guest58717> I'll leave about 10000MB for it then
[08:18] <Guest58717> Give or take
[08:19] <Ben64> Guest58717: so make the big partition ext4, and have the mountpoint be /
[08:19] <weebl> Hi guys, after upgrading from 15.04 -> 15.10 my unity seems broken and it didnt install 4.2 kernel - anyone else have this?
[08:20] <Ben64> Guest58717: the 10GB one you want to choose swap
[08:20] <Guest58717> Making the big one first now
[08:20] <Guest18> tandard images of Ubuntu may not work at all
[08:20] <Guest18> so .. i should contact them and tell them to give me the img file ?
[08:21] <Guest18> why is it 64 bit ?
[08:22] <Guest58717> curiousx Ben64 http://imgur.com/tyLHmWu is where I am
[08:23] <Guest58717> Just, for whom it concerns
[08:23] <Guest58717> Does that look good? Ignore sda
[08:23] <Ben64> Guest58717: make sure to change the bootloader installation location
[08:23] <Guest58717> Ah, right
[08:24] <curiousx> Guest58717: how much ram do you have ?
[08:24] <Guest58717> 8GB, err 8192MB I believe
[08:25] <Guest58717> Where do I direct the boot loader?
[08:25] <Ben64> sdb
[08:25] <Guest58717> sdb in general, or somewhere specific?
[08:26] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/0JXgCd8 Ben64
[08:26] <Ben64> looks good
[08:26] <curiousx> Guest58717: ok. the amount of swap never have tobe grater than the amount of ram -.-
[08:27] <curiousx> Guest58717: it's ok anyways you just lose 2 gbs of disk space, isn't much
[08:27] <Guest58717> :/
[08:27] <Guest58717> I'm anal
[08:27] <Guest58717> Hold up a sec
[08:27] <Guest18> oh oh he's anal
[08:28] <Guest58717> Could I, in theory, upgrade my RAM to 10GB?
[08:28] <Guest58717> In the future
[08:28] <Guest58717> Do they even have RAM in that amount, or does it jump to 12 or something?
[08:29] <Ben64> Guest58717: 8+2 = 10
[08:29] <Guest58717> Right. I'm running two 4GB sticks
[08:30] <curiousx> Guest58717: well, depends on what the chipset of your motherboard supports
[08:30] <Guest58717> I'm confused. Am I wasting space this way? Should I adjust the partition for swap to be smaller than 10610MB? Should I make it closer to 8192MB?
[08:31] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/0JXgCd8 is the screen
[08:31] <curiousx> Guest58717: yes, you shoud make it at max, the same amount of yout ram
[08:31] <curiousx> your*
[08:31] <Guest58717> I recall Ben64 saying to leave extra room
[08:31] <Guest58717> Did I misunderstand?
[08:32] <Ben64> Guest58717: i said a bit more, you went 2GB more, which will work i guess
[08:33] <curiousx> Guest58717: idk Guest58717 but, the thing that if you use hibernate as i did read, all the "things" that there is in your ram, goes to the swap, so, if your ram is 8 gbs, then at max 8 gbs will go to the swap
[08:33] <vlt> Hello. Can I add a 2 seconds pause BEFORE each track of an audio CD project with brasero?
[08:33] <curiousx> the thing is* ...
[08:33] <vlt> The first two seconds shoudl be silent.
[08:35] <thms> HI everyone. I got a few kernels in my /boot which makes me unable to apt-get upgrade, it tells me to apt-get clean but it doesn't clean it, shall I remove the kernels that I don't use by myself ?
[08:35] <Ben64> thms: why do they stop you from upgrading
[08:36] <Guest18> it was nice chatting with you guys .. talk to you soon
[08:36] <thms> Ben64: The upgrade dialogue tells me I need to free space
[08:36] <hateball> Ben64, thms: I am guessing /boot is full
[08:36] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/e3MGyNq
[08:36] <Guest58717> How about this?
[08:36] <Guest18> thank you for all your help cynixx3
[08:36] <thms> yes /boot needs more space
[08:36] <hateball> thms: There's instructions here to remove old kernels https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/RemoveOldKernels
[08:36] <thms> thx
[08:37] <Ben64> Guest58717: fine
[08:37] <curiousx> Ben64: he has 62 gbd for / -.-
[08:37] <hateball> thms: There's also one-liners that can clean it for you, let me see if I can find it
[08:38] <curiousx> gbs*
[08:38] <Ben64> curiousx: yep
[08:38] <curiousx> i just suggest 15 :D
[08:39] <Ben64> less space? why
[08:39] <curiousx> only/suggest
[08:40] <Guest58717> Now, when it asks for my name, will that be the name of the usr folder? What is username then?
[08:40] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/e3MGyNq
[08:40] <Ben64> thats a picture of your partitions
[08:40] <Guest58717> oops
[08:40] <Guest58717> http://imgur.com/rcCIB8f
[08:40] <Guest58717> That one^
[08:40] <curiousx> becous / only will hold some high hierarchy folders and files from sofware he install and nothing else, then the rest (45 gbs or so) /home
[08:41] <Flannel> Guest58717: username is your username (and the name of your home folder).  Name is free-form (spaces, capitalization, etc)
[08:41] <Ben64> Guest58717: uh, username is a box there
[08:41] <Guest58717> lol
[08:41] <hateball> thms: this has several options for you to use http://askubuntu.com/questions/2793/how-do-i-remove-or-hide-old-kernel-versions-to-clean-up-the-boot-menu
[08:41] <Guest58717> Flannel So how does "Your Name" matter with the computer? Is it irrelevant?
[08:42] <weebl> anyone know why the release upgrade 15.04 -> 15.10 might skip the kernel upgrade?
[08:43] <tyrell> hi
[08:43] <Flannel> Guest58717: Not for most things no.  It'll be displayed when you're logging in/out, etc.  But from a technical perspectice, no, you're really your username.
[08:43] <Guest58717> Thought as much
[08:44] <Guest58717> Thanks for the clarity
[08:44] <tyrell> hello
[08:45] <curiousx> hi
[08:46] <tyrell> new to irc's
[08:46] <curiousx> tyrell: welcome to IRC i'll be your guide, this is an ubuntu support channel, how can i help you ? -.-
[08:47] <tyrell> haha
[08:47] <Guest58717> Encrypting the Home folder sounds lovely
[08:47] <Ben64> don't do it, its a trap
[08:48] <Guest58717> Ben64?
[08:48] <weebl> :D
[08:48] <tyrell> ?
[08:48] <curiousx> tyrell: yes, this is only support, for all other matters there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:48] <SCHAAP137> I don't always encrypt my home folder, but when I do, i use ecryptfs
[08:48] <Ben64> just makes it way more likely you'll lose your data
[08:48] <weebl> upgraded to 15.10 too soon - everything broke ;D
[08:48] <Guest58717> I already started it :/
[08:48] <Guest58717> Can I change it back?
[08:48] <Ben64> well good luck
[08:48] <SCHAAP137> 15.10 works fine, don't worry
[08:48] <tyrell> what unbuntu software do you guys use?
[08:49] <Guest58717> ...
[08:50] <Any_where> So many people....
[08:50] <weebl> Guest58717: if you don't have too many customizations it will probably work fine
[08:50] <weebl> but if you've been playing around with kernel modules, bumblebee customizations etc then it will probably break :)
[08:51] <Guest58717> weebl Nothing like that no, but if it is going to cause problems...
[08:51] <Guest58717> I'd like to avoid reinstalling over and over
[08:51] <Guest58717> But I already clocked it
[08:51] <Guest58717> clicked*
[08:51] <Guest58717> I'm doomed
[08:52] <Guest58717> Death, by encryption
[08:52] <Guest58717> I just don't want the FBI putting some weird spin on the fact that I listen to Prince is all
[08:53] <Guest58717> Just sayin'
[08:53] <Ben64> that won't stop them but if it helps you sleep go for it
[08:54] <Guest58717> Question: Is it better to reinstall without encryption, then customize my system, or, customize my system and pray the encryption doesn't make me do it all again with a new install anyway?
[08:54] <Ben64> well at most you'll just lose your home directory
[08:54] <Ben64> won't require a reinstall
[08:54] <Guest58717> Okay
[08:54] <Guest58717> I guess I'm in for a lesson
[08:56] <thms> hateball: thaks
[08:56] <OnkelTem> Hi all. I just upgraded to Ubuntu 14.04 and many things are screwed up now
[08:56] <OnkelTem> Hate upgrades
[08:56] <Ben64> to 14.04? from what
[08:56] <OnkelTem> First, I have three monitors and now they are disordered
[08:57] <OnkelTem> from 12.04
[08:58] <OnkelTem> In System Settings > Display and Monitor there is no display list, only screensaver options
[08:58] <OnkelTem> I have nVidia card, and with nvidia-settings I can reorder displays in the correct way, but this isn't preserved between sessions
[08:59] <OnkelTem> Also I tried to save the setup to xorg.conf (which doesn't exist in my system, so I created it) but this didn't help
[08:59] <OnkelTem> Oh, this is KDE
[09:03] <nglpx1> hi
[09:03] <nglpx1> I am upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10
[09:04] <nglpx1> the upgrading process is now locked
[09:04] <nglpx1> systemd occupies 100% cpu
[09:04] <hateball> OnkelTem: You could always try using this PPA to see if it's some bug https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[09:06] <hateball> OnkelTem: I use multiple monitors in KDE, altho that is with Intel (mesa) and it works fine. Only have one monitor at home where I use nVidia so I havent seen any such bugs sadly
[09:06] <OnkelTem> hateball: I was using sgfxi for a long time
[09:06] <nglpx1> the terminal shows that the upgrading process is searching for loaders
[09:07] <OnkelTem> hateball: so this PPA brings some new driver updates, right?
[09:07] <nglpx1> he founded the debian install on /dev/sda5
[09:07] <hateball> OnkelTem: Yes, it gives you the latest nvidia driver+settings.
[09:08] <nglpx1> is it possible to interrupt the upgrading process without do damage?
[09:10] <OnkelTem> hateball: you won't believe: it has started saving display settings between sessions!
[09:11] <OnkelTem> Oh these bugs!
[09:11] <hateball> OnkelTem: without switching to the PPA?
[09:11] <OnkelTem> hateball: with
[09:11] <hateball> ah
[09:11] <OnkelTem> after update
[09:11] <hateball> :)
[09:11] <OnkelTem> hateball: tnanks!
[09:11] <hateball> OnkelTem: You're welcome
[09:15] <OnkelTem> at every session start annyoing notification appears: "software update notifications are available"
[09:15] <OnkelTem> while there are no any updates
[09:15] <OnkelTem> ideas - why does it appear and how to shut it up?
[09:17] <blubberger> Windows is so much better. Easier installation and you can even play battlefront #getrekt
[09:18] <allen> anyway to show the "computer"icon on the desktop using mate?
[09:18] <OnkelTem> blubberger: wrong comparison
[09:18] <somsip> OnkelTem: please dont encourage the trolls - just ignore them
[09:19] <OnkelTem> ok
[09:20] <hateball> OnkelTem: well, you can disable muon-updater from auto-starting and instead doing manual update checks
[09:21] <hateball> OnkelTem: iirc it behaves better in plasma 5, but I still keep it hidden...
[09:21] <OnkelTem> Seems that the message doesn't mean there are software updats
[09:21] <OnkelTem> it appears whenever there is an action unfinished (post-install)
[09:22] <OnkelTem> the problem is that you can follow from the notification to the problem place
[09:23] <OnkelTem> so it's like a puzzle to figure out what is wrong specifically. In case there was a bulb in the tray: it turned out that flashplayer plugin was not downloaded
[09:23] <OnkelTem> I my* case
[09:24] <OnkelTem> now after I [re]installed it manually, the notification is gone
[09:24] <hateball> OnkelTem: oh it was notification-helper
[09:24] <OnkelTem> somsip: I just wanted to say to that troll, that Linux is better at least for computer sciences!
[09:24] <OnkelTem> hateball: probably
[09:26] <somsip> OnkelTem: Understandable, but futile when dealing with trolls. Let it go
[09:26] <agent_white> ^
[09:27] <rickardve> Any info on bugs/problem with preseed / debian-installer?
[09:28] <OnkelTem> Ok. I can state that I after 2 years of listening blames (go and upgrade!) I now have Ubuntu 14.04 running.
[09:44] <harry> #ekoparty
[09:46] <RepThis1> Is compiling PHP a big pain relative to many other things out there?
[09:55] <thecyclone> I guess the answer to that is no.
[09:55] <thecyclone> But PHP is a pain sometimes
[10:16] <wu1> #ba2fa1#
[10:25] <M1C4HTRON13> Hi guys just installed ubuntu mate on my parents old xp machine for them. I used the automatic install along side windows option in the installer. Now trying to boot xp from the grub I just get a blinking cursor. Havent touched a windows install for years so I'm a bit lost when it comes to diagnosing and fixing this.
[10:30] <mogaj> Hi I am trying to connect ZTE 4g donglle to ubuntu 15.04 laptop but its not detecting, please any pointers
[10:31] <hateball> mogaj: run "dmesg" in a terminal after you plug it in, see if there's any interesting output
[10:31] <hateball> mogaj: also run "lsusb" and show us the ID of the device
[10:32] <mogaj> Bus 003 Device 005: ID 19d2:0017 ZTE WCDMA Technologies MSM
[10:32] <mogaj> hateball, ^
[10:35] <hateball> mogaj: hmmm, seems it should have been supported long ago https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/614071/comments/2
[10:36] <hateball> mogaj: is it detected as a mass storage device?
[10:36] <mogaj> how can i check that?
[10:36] <hateball> well, if it pops up a message to show the contents of the drive
[10:36] <hateball> some of these drives have drivers for windows etc included, so you need to tell them to switch to "modem" mode
[10:38] <hateball> mogaj: this may be of interest as well https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=176944
[10:41] <Twirl> is it possible to plug another monitor into vertical mode? its an ACER - X193W
[10:43] <Twirl> the question is regarding the OS/monitor
[10:43] <Twirl> i'm wondering if it's possible to render another desktop in vertical mode
[10:43] <taxomoney> Hello! Is the JDK installed by default on recent versions of Ubuntu? I use an Ubuntu derivative called Zorin OS where it is. I basically want to know if my sister who has Ubuntu 14.04 and has started to learn Java in school will be able to run the javac and java commands.
[10:44] <Twirl> oh nvm i just see it lets you rotate it :)
[10:44] <Quatroking> Hi
[10:44] <Quatroking> is there a way to use pushbullet over cli
[10:46] <mogaj> hateball, when i plug the dongle it is opening in file manager
[10:46] <Ben64> taxomoney: no, but its easy to install
[10:46] <taxomoney> Ben64: ok, thank you!
[10:47] <chotaz`w> Anyone else having problems booting with kernel 4.2?
[10:48] <chotaz`w> Is seems to hang for me after unlocking my hard drive, how can I debug this further?
[10:48] <hateball> mogaj: yeah, then you should check out the second link about usb_modeswitch
[10:48] <hateball> mogaj: unmount the device in file manager first
[10:49] <hateball> mogaj: what the command does is to tell the device it is a modem and not a cdrom
[10:49] <mogaj> ok
[10:53] <dionysus69> how do I manually set powertop tunable to bad? bluetooth is set to good and I cant pretty much use it so I want to manually set it to bad
[10:56] <adsc> how can I install the ubuntu app on my iPhone?
[10:57] <adsc> my friend has sent me a link, but when I tap it, the app store doesn't open
[10:58] <adsc> this is the link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10/ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[10:59] <k1l_> adsc: ubuntu app on your iphone? that doesnt make sense at all
[10:59] <adsc> it doesn't?
[10:59] <k1l_> please dont spoil this volunteer support channel with your trolling. thanks
[11:00] <adsc> okay, I'll ask my friend
[11:00] <adsc> he also showed me this channel, but I tell him what you said
[11:01] <k1l_> adsc: just stop it. its not the first time you try to troll in here.
[11:03] <adsc> you are right, I didn't get answers last time either
[11:03] <adsc> thought maybe there are new people in here now
[11:05] <Twirl> hi, why does is nethogs showing i'm using tor?
[11:05] <mogaj> /etc/usb_modeswitch.d/ is empty is this normal?
[11:09] <atralheaven_> Hello, what does "--system" mean in "adduser --system --no-create-home username"?
[11:10] <chotaz`w> atralheaven_, http://explainshell.com/explain?cmd=adduser+--system
[11:11] <atralheaven_> chotaz`w: I need to add a user with no home directory and "nologin" as shell on my ubuntu server
[11:12] <atralheaven_> chotaz`w: wow that website is awesome!
[11:13] <chotaz`w> If it only explain how I debug not being able to boot into 4.2 :(
[11:13] <chotaz`w> s/explain/explained
[11:14] <theptr> hi, does someone know how i can activate hibernate on ubuntu 14.04LTS desktop.
[11:17] <mogaj> I am trying to configure ZTE donggle on ubuntu 15.04 but i am unable to set it up, please someone help i tried few things with earlier inputs those results are as follows ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/12901760/
[11:18] <TJ-> atralheaven_: It creates's a 'system' user (UID < 1000 typically) generally for a process to run as
[11:19] <atralheaven_> TJ-: what does a "system" user mean?
[11:19] <atralheaven_> TJ-: I need to add a user with no home directory and "nologin" as shell on my ubuntu server
[11:20] <TJ-> atralheaven_: a system user is one used to run system services (daemons) such as web-server, rather than as a human user that logs on
[11:20] <atralheaven_> TJ-: do I need a system user for what I want?
[11:21] <mogaj> Hi when i do --- $ sudo usb_modeswitch -c /etc/usb_modeswitch.conf is giving this error "Error: can't use storage command in MessageContent with interface 0;   interface class is 255, expected 8. Abort"
[11:21] <TJ-> atralheaven_: Are you trying to restrict a human user? If so, --system is NOT what you want
[11:25] <atralheaven_> TJ-: yes, a human is going to use ssh ONLY for making a socks proxy tunnel
[11:26] <atralheaven_> TJ-: I don't want that user to be able to do anything else
[11:26] <M1C4HTRON13> ran boot-recovery but xp still fails to boot. boot-info http://paste.ubuntu.com/12901732/ any ideas?
[11:28] <atralheaven_> will a user have home directory if I use "useradd -s /sbin/nologin username" to create it?
[11:32] <chotaz`w> yes.
[11:32] <chotaz`w> you need to specify that you dont want a home folder, like u did earlier.
[11:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:35] <jokx> hello
[11:43] <atralheaven_> chotaz`w: no it was adduser, its useradd
[11:44] <atralheaven_> chotaz`w: I don't know how to have both options, no home folder and nologin for shell
[11:50] <Mythikos> How do I install TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.18.2.run? I obtained it directly from their site, as the Software Center didn't have it.
[11:52] <lotuspsychje> !teamspeak | Mythikos
[11:52] <MichaelMensassis> Hey I'm running Ubuntu 15.10 and when I log in, it goes to login then immediately just kicks me back to the login screen
[11:52] <Mythikos> May I join Teamspeak channels with Mumble? My friend has a server space for us to talk.
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> MichaelMensassis: wich grafix card chipset do you have mate?
[11:53] <lotuspsychje> Mythikos: not sure mate, maybe the #mumble channel knows?
[11:53] <MichaelMensassis> lotuspsychje: I'm running it in a VM, VirtualBox
[11:53] <Mythikos> Is that a freenode?
[11:54] <lotuspsychje> Mythikos: yes sir
[11:54] <Mythikos> Fair enough. Thanks much
[11:56] <Mythikos> The link you provided says Teamspeak is available from the repo. Why can't I see it in my Software Manager?
[11:56] <Mythikos> Directed at ubottu
[11:56] <rexwin_> my client wants a Proxy Server to be installed in ubuntu machine. what is proxy server and what program should i install like samba for file server?
[11:56] <chotaz`w> ubottu is a bot.
[11:57] <boogeyman> how do I find what is the default Monospace font?
[11:57] <chotaz`w> you cant join mumble/teamspeak servers from the other client application
[11:58] <Mythikos> I see.
[11:58] <boogeyman> it's not 'Deja Vu Sans Mono'
[11:58] <boogeyman> is there any link or something that binds the font to Monospace name?
[11:59] <Mythikos> ubottu gave me this link, which says Teamspeak is in the repo. Why can't I see it in my software manager? (fresh install btw)
[11:59] <Mythikos> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TeamSpeak
[11:59] <bazhang> !info teamspeak
[11:59] <Mythikos> I'm in Trusty Tahr
[12:00] <Mythikos> !info teamspeak
[12:00] <Mythikos> Hmm...
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> !info teamspeak feisty
[12:00] <bazhang> !info teamspeak trusty
[12:00] <bazhang> nope
[12:00] <Mythikos> Well, that clears that up
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> Mythikos: the trigger might be outdated, but check that ubuntu forum link on the url
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> Mythikos: it explains howto install it manually from their site
[12:01] <chotaz`w> neither teamspeak nor teamspeak3 packages exist, you'd have to install it manually from the website
[12:01] <Mythikos> I have it, but do not know what command to install it
[12:01] <Mythikos> 'Tis in my Downloads now
[12:02] <jonah> hi just building a PC and hit a couple of hurdles if anyone can please help? First is my case has two fans in the back, both have a 3 pin connector but my motherboard just has one case fan port which is 4 pin! Is there a way to still hook these up with an adaptor etc?
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> jonah: maybe the ##hardware guys can give you a help?
[12:04] <jonah> second problem is my power supply. The 24 pin motherboard power connects fine, but only one of the two 4 pin atx 12 vols will fit, so the other half won't fit in due to wrong shape.
[12:04] <jonah> lotuspsychje: ok will try them thanks
[12:04] <ylambda> I can't get gnome-terminal to show a visual bell
[12:05] <ylambda> my googling isn't turning up anything helpful
[12:05] <jokx> Hi, a little question : I've installed Ubuntu-Gnome Wily + ppa:gnome3team .. but Eye-Of-Gnome and Evince show me an horrible menu in place of integreted top-bar ... I think that modification is done for Unity, but for gnome user : is there a way to recover un-patched application ? Or Unity dev's are juste like kim-jun-un ?
[12:05] <jonah> lotuspsychje: ah I can't post to that channel
[12:05] <Mythikos> Is it better to install Steam from their site, or the repository?
[12:05] <hateball> Mythikos: Use the package manager
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> !register | jonah to join ##hardware
[12:05] <Mythikos> Okiedokie
[12:06] <hateball> Mythikos: It only installs a script that pulls in the client to your ~/, and Steam keeps itself up-to-date. The Ubuntu packages however also have some other things, like added support for Steam controller
[12:07] <Nyt129X> helloo everyone ,  I'm trying to upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10 from 14.04 , BUT I'm getting the following error:  "UNABLE TO CALCULATE UPGADE UBUNTU" with the following recommendations "This can be caused by: * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu,* Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu, * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu " Any advice ??
[12:07] <Mythikos> hateball Thank you
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: not very reccomended to upgrade from lts to non-lts
[12:07] <hateball> Nyt129X: You can't upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10 without breaking
[12:08] <hateball> Nyt129X: The advice would be to wait for 16.04 which is the next LTS, and offers an upgrade from 14.04
[12:08] <Nyt129X> hateball: I see...thanks guys.
[12:09] <jokx> Nyt129X: the upgrade is possible by hand ... but with many pain
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: you could test 15.10 from virtualbox instead
[12:09] <Nyt129X> Anyways SOME of the newer functons will be passed over to 14.04 is it ??
[12:09] <TJ-> Nyt129X: the only sane path is 14.04 > 14.10 (now EOL) > 15.04 > 15.10
[12:10] <jokx> Nyt129X: only the kernel, graphical stack and unity special purpose
[12:10] <Nyt129X> jokx: WITHOUT Breaking ?? I have some unofiicial ppsa's as well.
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: we dont support ppa's neither
[12:10] <TJ-> Nyt129X: The reason is, each package contains a pre-install and post-install script, and those are written manually to cope with the known versions (installed vs to-be-installed), so package Foo in 14.10 'knows' how to upgrade from Foo in 14.04, but Foo in 15.04 only knows how to upgrade from 14.10
[12:11] <schlerp> coolmadmax: i use owncloud, i would recommend it
[12:11] <Nyt129X> lotuspsychje: No vm
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: then stick to 14.04 or install 15.10 fresh
[12:11] <jokx> Nyt129X: it's very complicate .. but not impossible, the way is to disable ppa, dist-upgrade, clean, purge, autoremove .. some importante peace of software will cry and be removed .. you have to do and then to re-install ... and finaly you will be able to re-activate your ppa ... but it's a very pain-way
[12:11] <hateball> Time flies, 16.04 will be here soon
[12:12] <rexwin_> my client wants a Proxy Server to be installed in ubuntu machine. what is proxy server and what program should i install like samba for file server?
[12:12] <bekks> rexwin_: Samba is not related to a proxy server at all.
[12:12] <Mythikos> hateball ZThere appear to be two options in my SM, Steam (steam) and Steam (steam launcher). Which do I choose? Both?
[12:12] <Nyt129X> jokx: Hmmm....In that case cant I upgrade to 14.10 and then to 15.04 and finally to 15.10 ?? Without breaking anything ??
[12:12] <bekks> rexwin_: If you want a proxy server, use squid.
[12:12] <Nyt129X> Or should I WAIT till 16.04 ??
[12:12] <rexwin_> squid says it acts as proxy server
[12:13] <Mythikos> hateball Nvm. The first is "Not Found"
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: wait like hateball suggested :p
[12:13] <hateball> Mythikos: steam-launcher should set up the things for you on its first run, then it would be just steam
[12:13] <Mythikos> Thank you
[12:13] <jokx> Nyt129X: if you'r not a APT expert : just wait for 16.04
[12:14] <BluesKaj> Nyt129X, 14.10 EOL, no longer supported, 15.10 new, stick with 14.04 it's stable and i still supported
[12:14] <bvemu> #django
[12:14] <Mythikos> hateball It only has a "Buy" button. How do I install it? Do I really need some sort of account?
[12:15] <bekks> How can set the default editor for crontab -e on Ubuntu 14.04?
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> !squid | rexwin_
[12:15] <Nyt129X> Or should I WAIT till 16.04 ???? (Hopefully)
[12:16] <hateball> Mythikos: Can you post a screenshot? You need an account to use Steam, but there's no cost involved
[12:16] <Nyt129X> jokx: Noted... Not an expert on apt...Just install clean purge :-( WIll wait til 16.04  .  SO THEN there wont be any issues when tryin to upgrade
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: depends on your needs
[12:16] <bekks> Nyt129X: I'd use 14.04 and update to 16.04 afterwards.
[12:16] <Nyt129X> bekks: Seems like I'm goin that path aswell..
[12:16] <rexwin_> what does proxy server do actually?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> Nyt129X: first xenial alpha hits 31 december
[12:16] <bekks> rexwin_: It proxies requests for webservers.
[12:17] <Mythikos> hateball Printscreen button isn't working it seems. I don't understand why. It was earlier. This is a fresh OS though too
[12:17] <TJ-> bekks: does 'crontab -e' ignore env VISUAL and EDITOR ?
[12:17] <dionysus69> can anyone please tell me why I cant make gnome grid extension work? It adds worspace horizontally but not vertically
[12:18] <Mythikos> I have Imgur ready and waiting, just need to print screen...
[12:18] <bekks> TJ-: I didnt try it yet, until now I lived with nano for crontab -e
[12:19] <TJ-> bekks: I recall some tool that ignores the env editor vars, but I think it was sudoedit not crontab
[12:19] <bekks> TJ-: crontab -e evaluates VISUAL and EDITOR. How would I go about setting those vars globally?
[12:20] <btorch> morning
[12:20] <hateball> bekks: update-alternatives --config editor
[12:20] <bekks> hateball: thx
[12:20] <TJ-> bekks: "/etc/environment" for system-level or alter the /usr/bin/editor
[12:21] <rexwin_> I installed httpd and squid. how do I whether Apache2 Ubuntu Default Page is served by httpd or squid?
[12:22] <Mythikos> I going to restart my machine. I'm having too many weird little issues
[12:22] <Mythikos> hateball I figured it out
[12:23] <Mythikos> The print screen issue that is
[12:24] <Mythikos> hateball http://i.imgur.com/MkHNB3x.png
[12:24] <Mythikos> Then...
[12:24] <hateball> Mythikos: I am not sure where you see any cost to begin with
[12:24] <Mythikos> http://i.imgur.com/9hF5ASz.png
[12:24] <Mythikos> That one
[12:25] <TJ-> rexwin_: by examining the HTTP response headers
[12:25] <jokx> Hi, a little question : I've installed Ubuntu-Gnome Wily + ppa:gnome3team .. but Eye-Of-Gnome and Evince show me an horrible menu in place of the normal header bars ... I think that modification is done for Unity, but for gnome user : is there a way to recover un-patched application ?
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> jokx: maybe the #ubuntu-gnome guys know?
[12:25] <hateball> Mythikos: Well if you buy something for free...
[12:25] <rexwin_> how to find it or where to find it? TJ
[12:25] <Mythikos> As I thought, but...
[12:25] <Mythikos> http://i.imgur.com/ZkBKwxc.png
[12:26] <Mythikos> Directs here
[12:26] <Mythikos> I'm not interested in Ubuntu One in the leasrt
[12:26] <TJ-> rexwin_: in the response from the server
[12:26] <hateball> Mythikos: Alright. To be fair I do not use the software center. You can just run "sudo apt-get install steam" in a terminal
[12:27] <hateball> Mythikos: press tab to move to options, enter to agree. then it will be installed in no time
[12:28] <rexwin_> TJ, which logs
[12:28] <Mythikos> hateball Thank you
[12:28] <rexwin_> accesslog is empty in my server
[12:28] <Mythikos> Terminal never fails me
[12:29] <rexwin_> AH00015: Unable to open logs
[12:29] <TJ-> rexwin_: no logs; the HTTP header returned by the server to the client
[12:30] <Mythikos> hateball It installed alright (or I thought it did) but refuses to launch
[12:30] <Mythikos> Non-responsive. Maybe run it from terminal?
[12:30] <Jakey3> what is the command to deeply format a harddrive from terminal
[12:30] <Jakey3> ?
[12:31] <rexwin_> can you explain, I dont know how to find it?
[12:31] <Mythikos> hateball I cannot get it to respond
[12:32] <Mythikos> I do not know the terminal command either
[12:32] <metaphysician> rexwin_: To see the headers you could use these commands: $ HEAD http://url    or $ curl -I <url>   or $ wget -S -O/dev/null <url>
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> Jakey3: you want to zero the drive with dd?
[12:33] <Jakey3> ye
[12:33] <akxwi_dave> mythikos : you can also go direct to the steam website and download the deb installer there, once its downloaded, it will ask what you want to open it with, choose software center and it will install, another winodw will pop up and ask you to run it, which then goes off and gets the full package and update its self
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> Jakey3: just be carefull right :p http://askubuntu.com/questions/142858/how-to-zero-out-a-drive
[12:33] <Jakey3> ok thanks
[12:34] <hateball> Mythikos: should be able to just run "steam" from the terminal. Start typing steam and press <tab> to see what turns up
[12:35] <Mythikos> http://i.imgur.com/LxbHUGe.png
[12:35] <Mythikos> hateball^
[12:36] <hateball> Mythikos: what GPU do you have? Steam will crap out if you're not using proprietary driver
[12:36] <hateball> Mythikos: if nvidia or ATI you should have them available through the driver installer
[12:37] <rexwin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12902211/
[12:37] <Mythikos> hateball I'll restart and brb
[12:37] <Jakey3> lotuspsychje, how long do you think this will take on a 2tb hdd?
[12:37] <Mythikos> I think I switched from xorg to fglrx without rebooting maybe
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> Jakey3: that might take a while
[12:37] <metaphysician> rexwin_: It's the nginx server replying.
[12:37] <rexwin_> does it says served by squid or apache  ?
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> Jakey3: you dont have enough with normal format?
[12:38] <hateball> Mythikos: yes you have to reboot after enabling restricted drivers, as the new modules have to load
[12:38] <zoli> hi. How is it possible to move the search filter to the left side (from right) from the dash?
[12:38] <zoli> it is very non-ergonomic on the right
[12:39] <metaphysician> rexwin_: A better way is to see what programs are listening on what ports: $ sudo netstat -6 -4 -A inet -utevlp
[12:39] <Jakey3> lotuspsychje, im trying to put in raid 1 with 2 hardives in the manual install keeps comming up with error, ive formated diskd a few times but made no difference
[12:39] <Jakey3> no i dd them
[12:39] <Jakey3> see if that changes anything
[12:39] <OerHeks> zoli, not, AFAIK, it is hardcoded.
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> zoli: maybe 16.04 will have it more ergnomic for you, who knows
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> zoli: whats your purpose to search exactly?
[12:40] <Mythikos> hateball Restarted
[12:41] <Mythikos> No difference thus far
[12:41] <metaphysician> rexwin_: wait, I am not sure whether it's proxy server's response or not. But if it is a proxy server, then behind it is nginx, not apache.
[12:41] <hateball> Mythikos: Well, I know next to nothing about ATI drivers. All I know is that Steam will go mad if it doesnt work properly
[12:41] <nfk|laptop> after upgrading to 15.10 (well, kubuntu) gfortran seems to have disappeared from repos
[12:41] <rexwin_> does the header say it is served by squid  ?
[12:42] <Mythikos> Something went wrong here
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> !info gfortran vivid
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> !info gfortran
[12:42] <metaphysician> rexwin_: I am not sure. Find out from the output of the netstat command I gave.
[12:42] <Mythikos> hateball http://i.imgur.com/1GtcTze.png
[12:43] <nfk|laptop> lotuspsychje, is that 15.10?
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> nfk|laptop: seems like wily still has it
[12:43] <nfk|laptop> <--- absolutely hates those names
[12:43] <hateball> Mythikos: as I said I have no idea. I quit using ATI 10 years ago because it sucks on Linux.
[12:43] <rexwin_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12902249/
[12:43] <nfk|laptop> lotuspsychje, any ideas why apt-get install gfortran would say it does not exist?
[12:43] <Mythikos> Just had all of this working in Linux Mint 17, so I know it should work
[12:44] <Mythikos> hateball Agreed though'
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> nfk|laptop: used sudo right?
[12:44] <hateball> Mythikos: Chances are someone else will know tho, if you hang around
[12:44] <nfk|laptop> lotuspsychje, naturally, i got E: Package 'gfortran' has no installation candidate
[12:45] <nfk|laptop> are my repos messed up after upgrade?
[12:45] <Mythikos> hateball Alrighty
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> nfk|laptop: not sure what happened for you, you sure your on 15.10 right
[12:46] <nfk|laptop> should be
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> nfk|laptop: rebooted after upgrade? sudo apt-get update perhaps?
[12:46] <nfk|laptop> the upgrade failed the first time as the local server didn't have some packages so i switched to the main server and upgrade went successfully
[12:46] <nfk|laptop> i have done both, multiple times even
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[12:46] <jokx> lotuspsychje: thkx
[12:46] <nfk|laptop> currently switching again from the local to main server
[12:47] <metaphysician> rexwin_: You can read it. E.g. varnishd is running on port 6081. nginx is running on port 80/http. traffic manager is running on port 8080. so on..
[12:48] <nfk|laptop> lotuspsychje, yeah, it was the server
[12:48] <islandmonkey> Hello, after upgrading to Ubuntu 15.10, X has failed to start and ends up segfaulting. Xorg log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12902272/
[12:48] <nfk|laptop> either that or the package is very recent
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> !yay | nfk|laptop
[12:48] <Mythikos> Anyone know about this:
[12:48] <Mythikos> http://i.imgur.com/QJjqsd5.png
[12:48] <nfk|laptop> yeah, i'm glad too
[12:48] <nfk|laptop> it was overall a very smooth upgrade
[12:48] <Mythikos> Cannot get fresh install of Steam to open
[12:48] <rexwin_> squid is running on 8888 and I just started it want to know whether it serves the default apache page\
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: grafix card chipset please?
[12:50] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: Ah yeah, its a Intel HD 3000 + NVIDIA 635M
[12:50] <nfk|laptop> btw, if anyone cares, generally older versions of gfortran should be purged
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: optimus card?
[12:50] <islandmonkey> Yeah
[12:51] <nfk|laptop> apparently if the gfortran version is not 3 or the current gcc minor version, you're in for trouble
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: did you install nvidia-prime?
[12:51] <kwerfguuto> hi guys, Yesterday i've bought acer p553m but i'm not able to install ubuntu on it.
[12:51] <nfk|laptop> which is how i noticed that gfortran was acting up as the package built fine but hadn't been linked against libgfortran silently
[12:51] <metaphysician> rexwin_: squid is running on IPv6 8888 not IPv4.
[12:52] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: No I haven't
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> nfk|laptop: older versions for other ubuntu versions should still be safe to use
[12:52] <nfk|laptop> and autoremove naturally didn't think it needs to get rid of the older gfortran 4.9
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> !infi nvidia-prime | islandmonkey for optimus cards
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | islandmonkey
[12:52] <nfk|laptop> lotuspsychje, i mean, 15.04 had gcc 4.9 and gfortran 4.9
[12:52] <Mythikos> Anyone understand why this has a "Buy" button instead of an "Install/Uninstall" button? http://i.imgur.com/enHN6R5.png Or why when I try to launch it, it won't respond? http://i.imgur.com/QJjqsd5.png ?
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: after install, enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[12:53] <nfk|laptop> with upgrade to 15.10 gcc 5.something and libgfortan5 got installed but just having that libgfortran4.9 still around messed a build up for me
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> !steam | Mythikos read here first
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> Mythikos: and join the #ubuntu-steam channel, they might be helping more specificly
[12:54] <nfk|laptop> so i purged them all and tried to install just gfortran at which point i found out it did not exist
[12:54] <nfk|laptop> and was starting to have cold sweat
[12:54] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: Should I need to restart after install? I have no access to a GUI with the exception of low graphics mode, but I can't choose any of the options when the low graphics mode dialog shows up
[12:54] <Mythikos> thank you
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: try to install nvidia-prime from recoverymode perhaps? + enable another grafix driver
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: you can check current driver with sudo lshw -C video behind driver=
[12:56] <kwerfguuto> live is blocked before starts
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> !details | kwerfguuto
[12:56] <kwerfguuto> i've ubu 1404 64bit
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | islandmonkey when things go wrong; terminal with internet access
[12:58] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: BTW, I have installed nvidia-prime already -- the current driver in uses the intel drive
[12:59] <Mythikos> No help yet :/
[12:59] <islandmonkey> I have internet access already
[12:59] <islandmonkey> Just no graphics :)
[12:59] <kwerfguuto> i've bought Yesterday asus p553m with win8.1, i've problem with uefi
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: if your card uses the intel, it means its not set on performance mode yet
[12:59] <kwerfguuto> i want delete win and install ubuntu
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: or not using correct nvidia driver version
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: did you disable fastboot and secureboot in bios?
[13:00] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: Hmm, might have to see what's going on in the X config file
[13:01] <kwerfguuto> yes lotuspsychje,
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: we see alot of optimus cards working with nvidia-331 (example) + nvidia-prime
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: IDE chnaged to AHCI?
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: can you tell us at wich point exactly liveusb freezes?
[13:02] <kwerfguuto> i don't know
[13:03] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: doublecheck bios settings= fastboot=off secureboot=off AHCI=enabled
[13:03] <Mythikos> hateball I discovered proprietary software requires 'authentication' in the software manager using Ubuntu One. I found out that getting it from the source directs to Ubuntu and bypasses the Ubuntu One
[13:03] <kwerfguuto> sure, when ubuntu script loaded, i've used a dvd image of ubu 64 bit
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: wich script?
[13:04] <kwerfguuto> lotuspsychje:  now i must exit with my dog i return soon
[13:04] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: I'll restart into recovery mode, brb
[13:05] <kwerfguuto> the starts, when ubuntu is loading
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> !md5 | kwerfguuto maybe bad dvd?
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: do you have an empty usb you could install from?
[13:06] <kwerfguuto> yes lotuspsychje
[13:06] <TJ-> kwerfguuto: Do you mean that the Ubuntu installer isn't bootable by the PC, or do you mean the installer starts booting and then fails?
[13:07] <kwerfguuto> i've done a test with another pc and it works lotuspsychje
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> ok
[13:07] <kwerfguuto> the problem is this laptop
[13:07] <kwerfguuto> asus p553m
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: can you answer TJ- question please
[13:08] <kwerfguuto> starts the live ubuntu, but fails
[13:08] <kwerfguuto> it s blocked
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: at wich point exactly?
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: you can see 'try ' and 'install' ubuntu?
[13:09] <TJ-> kwerfguuto: "it's blocked" - do you mean the PC reports an error and refuses to boot from the Ubuntu installer device?
[13:09] <kwerfguuto> the beginning
[13:09] <kwerfguuto> no tj
[13:09]  * lotuspsychje facepalm
[13:10] <kwerfguuto> it appears ubuntu inscription
[13:11] <kwerfguuto> but hangs
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: hangs at the ubuntu logo purple screen?
[13:11] <kwerfguuto> yes
[13:11] <TJ-> kwerfguuto: Thank-you :) Now it makes sense.
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: so the .... dots no moving?
[13:11] <kwerfguuto> the beginning
[13:12] <kwerfguuto> unity doesn't appear
[13:12] <dionysus69> does anyone here use pgadmin3? It crashes no matter where i right click
[13:13] <kwerfguuto> remain the ubuntu inscription with 3 pellets loaded
[13:13] <TJ-> kwerfguuto: Try pressing the 'Esc' key when the purple logo screen first appears; that *should* allow you to see background log messages on the console
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> kwerfguuto: and come back with the error @ freeze time
[13:14] <kwerfguuto> ok after i try,thanks now i should exit with the dog
[13:25] <sebsebseb> hi
[13:25] <moty66> hello, I have a USB modem which works fine with hyla fax to receive and send, is there any way to use this modem to make a phone call?
[13:29] <absouza> hi
[13:29] <EdwardIII> hey, installing ubuntu server on a machine with a mediatek 802.11 wifi dongle. the installer doesn't offer any wifi options at all?
[13:29] <Nyt129X> d
[13:30] <sebsebseb> EdwardIII: to use as just a  server or?
[13:31] <TJ-> EdwardIII: 'server' expects the system to be wired in for most cases; other times it may need you to provide specific drivers to support hardware the mainline kernel does not have a driver for, or is not in the installer image
[13:36] <thresh> hi. anyone using packer to provision ubuntu 15.10 machines?
[13:44] <nindustries_> Hi, so im logging in my ubuntu 15.10 server as root and I get a message saying unprotected private key, but for ANOTHER user. wtf ?
[13:44] <EdwardIII> TJ-: does the desktop installer come with some automatic wifi probing stuff?
[13:45] <nindustries_> nvm :)
[13:45] <EdwardIII> (i've decided to just grab a cable and wire it for now but i'm interested)
[13:48] <TJ-> EdwardIII: The server installer is 'debian-installer', desktop/live is debian-installer + ubiquity (GUI) and some extra magic on top, and expects to be used on Wifi-based systems, so I think it has more built-in support for a wider range of wifi. For example, it has wpa_supplicant, Network Manager, and so on
[13:48] <OerHeks> !info ntpd wily
[13:48] <OerHeks> !info ntp wily
[13:49] <Joel> #aws
[13:50] <Joel> what packages represent the actual kernel? want to see if a newer version is available.
[13:53] <ulkesh> I plan to upgrade to Ubuntu 15.10 this weekend (from 15.04), is there any specific issue I should watch out for?  I see the virtualbox issue, but it seems there is a workaround.
[13:53] <TJ-> !info linux-image | Joel
[13:53] <TJ-> !info linux-image-generic | Joel
[13:54] <Joel> TJ-, thanks, hitting a wonderful memory issue right now: kernel BUG at /build/buildd/linux-3.13.0/mm/memory.c:1838! invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] SMP
[13:54] <EdwardIII> TJ-: ok i'll try that next time if i need to do an install over wifi. thanks
[13:54] <Joel> -fml
[13:55] <TJ-> Joel: ouch!
[13:56] <TJ-> Joel: are you able to capture a screen image of the kernel panic?
[13:57] <Joel> TJ-, yeah, but I'm too lazy to open a bug for it
[13:58] <TJ-> Joel: is the system using BTRFS?
[13:58] <Joel> TJ-, how would I check for that?
[13:59] <TJ-> Joel: the kernel panic stack-trace should mention 'btrfs' if it is directly related; I see 1 bug with a similar failure using BTRFS
[14:01] <syntroPi> Which electronic circuit simulation software is the most complete yet still alive? Any recommendations?
[14:03] <kiwbegunn3324> hi i'm returned, i've done a photo of boot when i've clicked esc
[14:04] <Joel> TJ-, nope, https://gist.github.com/jjshoe/3fdef163518633b4cdbd
[14:04] <kiwbegunn3324> !img
[14:04] <kiwbegunn3324> !paste image
[14:04] <OerHeks> kiwbegunn3324, try imgur.com
[14:04] <OerHeks> !paste
[14:06] <ceed> I have a Ubuntu 15.04 laptop and have a usb drive with two partions. I need to move files from one to the other. Would I have to copy them to my computer first, or can I copy directly from one partition to the other?
[14:06] <Joel> ceed, is there a computer on the external drive? :)
[14:08] <k1l> ceed: you can copy them between the partitions
[14:08] <k1l> no need to save them first on the laptop
[14:09] <Joel> k1l, it's still going through the computer.
[14:09] <TJ-> ceed: the data has to travel to the CPU and be sent out again, so in that sense yes (which halves or more the available transfer speed)
[14:09] <Joel> he wants to copy between without being penalized by the speed of USB
[14:10] <k1l> he talked about copy it to the laptop. and that is not needed.
[14:11] <ceed> So when I plug it in both partitions will be mounted and I can move directly from one to the other? Just want to make sure I do not mess up the drive and files :)
[14:11] <jpds> ceed: Yes
[14:13] <jophish> Is there a way to disable using bright colors for bold text in gnome-terminal?
[14:14] <ceed> jpds, thanks!
[14:20] <chotaz`w> My system hangs trying to boot with Kernel 4.2 after the upgrade, where should I start looking for problems? The system hangs right after unlocking my HDD.
[14:20] <chotaz`w> I've tried syslog and kernel.log but there are no messages for the exact minute where the boot hangs.
[14:21] <fabio> OFFTOPIC: Its possible to open an website on same tab with chrome and terminal?
[14:21] <chotaz`w> you mean changing the header location of a tab from terminal?
[14:22] <fabio> chotaz yeah imagine that the chrome is on techcrunch and you want to open youporn but on same tab :)
[14:23] <money> t
[14:24] <chotaz`w> keep it family friendly fabio. and that is not possible, not with the standard chrome/chromium build.
[14:26] <kiwbegunn3324> guys i've done a photo of the problem
[14:29] <EdwardIII> hrm i've added another interface, "iface eth0:0 inet static" with an address and a netmask entry. then i did /etc/init.d/networking restart, but i don't see the new interface in ifconfig?
[14:31] <streulma> Hello, I'm strugling with Virtualbox and Ubuntu 15.10. I can't install release from virtualbox.org because libvpx1 is missing and is replaced by libvpx2, installing Virtualbox from Ubuntu Software Center is no option for me.
[14:31] <cfhowlett> known bug, no fix yet streulma
[14:32] <kiwbegunn3324> where can i paste the img file?
[14:32] <streulma> cfhowlett and what's the solution for now? Going back to 15.04 and wait for the fix?
[14:32] <cfhowlett> yep
[14:32] <k1l> kiwbegunn3324: imgur.com
[14:33] <kiwbegunn3324> it asks me login
[14:33] <k1l> streulma: or use the 5.0.4 virtualbox from the wiley repo
[14:34] <k1l> kiwbegunn3324: should not ask for it. or use any other imagehoster you can use
[14:34] <streulma> k1l cpusetid does not work
[14:34] <anon2442> hi
[14:35] <kiwbegunn3324> i've done http://imgur.com/ioOt0Vu this is the error
[14:35] <anon2442> is there a system fix for trouble detecting sandisk cruzer glide usb devices?
[14:36] <anon2442> nvm i gtg
[14:36] <jpds> anon2442: Bug number?
[14:36] <anon2442> dont have one
[14:36] <anon2442> sorry
[14:36] <anon2442> after it detects it the first time but you safely remove it, it wont detect it again until you reboot
[14:43] <EdwardIII> it's weird. if i type in "ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.242.222 up" it works fine. if i put almost the exact same lines in my interface file i get nothing
[14:44] <EdwardIII> and don't see any errors in the syslog
[14:44] <zetheroo> is there a way to restart more than one service in the command line?
[14:44] <EdwardIII> kinda confusing
[14:45] <TJ-> EdwardIII: is there also a "auto eth0:0" ?
[14:45] <EdwardIII> TJ-: there is, let me see if i can find something to let me post a file to a pastebin...
[14:45] <TJ-> EdwardIII: when the interface is NOT configured/UP, what does "sudo ifup eth0:0" report ?
[14:46] <TJ-> EdwardIII: "cat /etc/network/interfaces | nc termbin.com 9999"
[14:47] <EdwardIII> TJ-: http://termbin.com/25ch
[14:47] <EdwardIII> lovely short ref on the end of that
[14:48] <EdwardIII> TJ-: ifup says Ignoring unknown interface eth0:0=eth0:0.
[14:49] <EdwardIII> oh heh. i tried it again with :1
[14:49] <EdwardIII> aaaand... it works?
[14:49] <EdwardIII> so how come it doesn't load on boot?
[14:50] <TJ-> As I said, try "sudo ifup eth0:1" manually, see what it reports. That's what happens at boot time
[14:50] <EdwardIII> ok this is weird, i rebooted and now it's working
[14:50] <EdwardIII> well, thanks heh
[14:53] <chotaz`w> My system hangs after unlocking my HDD since I upgraded to 15.10, I can boot with kernel 3.19 but not with 4.2. Which log files should I look into for problems?
[14:54] <TJ-> chotaz`w: what kind of 'lock' does it have?
[14:55] <chotaz`w> TJ-, its a Luks on LVM setup, but I get the "HDD Unlocked successfully" message and then it hangs.
[14:56] <chotaz`w> and when I reboot with 3.19 the first thing it does is a filesystem check.
[14:56] <TJ-> chotaz`w: LUKS on LVM, or LVM-VG in LUKS?
[14:57] <chotaz`w> TJ-, I guess the latter since the boot parameter have somethign like "/dev/mapper/vg--root" but I'm not really sure since I didn't setup the encryption
[14:59] <TJ-> chotaz`w: It'd make more sense if its a default install option. If you're seeing the 'HDD Unlocked...' message that suggests cryptsetup has done its job. At that point a node appears under /dev/mapper/<crypt-dev> and then udevd will see the kernel uevent ADD for a block device, and fire off pvscan/vgscan when it sees the LVM metadata
[15:00] <TJ-> chotaz`w: Have you tried using Advanced > Recovery boot option with that latest kernel so you can see more of what is going on?
[15:00] <chotaz`w> I tried taking a look at syslog and kern.log(out of pure guess) but there are no messages for the expected date+time
[15:01] <xPax> How do I upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 14.04.3 LTS
[15:02] <TJ-> chotaz`w: is there a separate /boot/ file-system/partition? If so, has it run out of space and the latest kernel's initrd.img-$VERSION not been completely generated?
[15:05] <chotaz`w> TJ-, correct, boot is on a separate 200MB partition
[15:05] <TJ-> chotaz`w: 200MB? I'd bet on out-of-space
[15:06] <chotaz`w> 250 actually, I'd usually just delete the 3.19 if I was sure that was the problem
[15:06] <chotaz`w> or maybe 250MB is not enough for 4.2?
[15:07] <MikeRL> Something I'm curious about on Ubuntu that is more user friendly on Windows. Formatting, not just blanking, CDs and DVDs.
[15:07] <xPax> How do I upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 14.04.3 LTS
[15:07] <MikeRL> Nautilus lets the user format media and drives they insert, but what would work for a cd rom? It lets me enter custom stuff.
[15:08] <MikeRL> Like should I enter udf or udfs for the filesystem?
[15:12] <MikeRL> Well, Nautilus won't let me format it using either UDF or UDFS. I guess I'll have to look for a good utility.
[15:12] <xPax> ***@*****:~$ lsb_release -a
[15:12] <xPax> No LSB modules are available.
[15:12] <xPax> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[15:12] <xPax> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[15:12] <xPax> Release:	14.04
[15:13] <xPax> Codename:	trusty
[15:14] <DJones> xPax: Looking at that, you're already using 14.04.3
[15:14] <xPax> Thanks
[15:14] <MikeRL> I do see a Debian package that exists for handling UDFS.
[15:14] <xPax> but kernel is still   3.13.0-66-generic
[15:14] <DJones> xPax: If you're running normal updates regularly, you'll automatically be upgraded to the latest version of 14.04
[15:15] <daftykins> xPax: as it should be
[15:15] <chotaz`w> TJ-, thanks for the time, I need to check on how to increase my boots partition size
[15:15] <xPax> How do I upgrade the kernel to 3.19
[15:15] <daftykins> xPax: install the latest HWE stack
[15:15] <daftykins> !hwe
[15:15] <daftykins> ugh that one is out of date
[15:16] <daftykins> xPax: real question - why do you want 3.19 ? what do you think it's going to give you?
[15:16] <xPax> just updating...
[15:16] <daftykins> xPax: no point, 3.13 is the normal kernel for 14.04 - stick with it
[15:16] <daftykins> bigger numbers do not mean better.
[15:18] <xPax> almost     --->   sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-vivid     but stopped
[15:19] <TJ-> !lte | daftykins
[15:19] <TJ-> !ltse | daftykins  (grrr!)
[15:19] <MikeRL> I just wish the documentation was better for udftools.
[15:23] <MikeRL> Help everyone else who was here first, of course. I will be reading up some documentation and see if I can wrap my head around these tools.
[15:23] <Pici> TJ-: do you think it makes sense to point !hwe to !ltse?
[15:23] <daftykins> xPax: that is an unwise move - and no that's not enough
[15:23] <daftykins> TJ-: that'll do :)
[15:25] <TJ-> Pici: It would help if it wasn't so focused on 12.04 updates ceasing, and adds the 14.04/LTS general link
[15:28] <dionysus69> what music player do you recommend? would be nice if it made my life easier syncing android
[15:30] <daftykins> dionysus69: try some :)
[15:30] <MikeRL> And I found what I was looking for, it looks like: http://mindspill.net/computing/linux-notes/how-to-format-a-dvd-with-udf/
[15:31] <dionysus69> daftykins: I prefer experienced advice :D I have used rhythmbox but it was buggy and looked too old school
[15:31] <booker> Yo
[15:31] <OerHeks> dionysus69, a lot of musicplayers can, i use clementine only because of the rqualiser and it can handle large collections
[15:31] <DJones> dionysus69: I like clementine on a desktop, not sure how it works with android devices though
[15:32] <dionysus69> ok let it be clementine thanks for advice ))
[15:32] <adrian_1908> hello. I noticed that in Firefox, I have multiple English dictionaries in the spell checker (misguided attempt at "diversity" I reckon). Does anyone happen to know how to get rid of them?
[15:33] <MikeRL> Well, it didn't print any interesting output, but me thinks it formatted the disk due to all the noises it made. Any way to check?
[15:34] <daftykins> MikeRL: it would mount
[15:35] <MikeRL> daftykins, Well, I tried "sudo mkudffs --media-type=dvd /dev/dvd", and it mounts. But another command gives an error.
[15:36] <daftykins> MikeRL: what's the end goal here? erasing a rewritable disc?
[15:36] <MikeRL> Trying to see if I can format them like in Windows.
[15:37] <OerHeks> maybe you need /dev/dvdrw
[15:37] <MikeRL> I'm curious to see how far things have improved in Linux with DVD and CD formatting.
[15:37] <MikeRL> At least Brasero is way more reliable than it was many releases ago.
[15:37] <MikeRL> Well, that worked, thanks.
[15:38] <MikeRL> Didn't think of that.
[15:38] <daftykins> ultimately /dev/<something> is probably a symlink to /dev/sr0 anyway
[15:38] <MikeRL> Now, how can I tell what version it formatted it in?
[15:38] <MikeRL> UDF has several versions.
[15:38] <daftykins> with the unfortunately named mkudffs ?
[15:39] <daftykins> it would appear the man page has no information on that
[15:39] <Nectar2> Hello. I have updated to gnome 15.10, nut now whenever I set my monitor settings (resolution, primary/ secondry monitor, position) - they revert whenever i restart the system. Annoying ay? Help.
[15:40] <daftykins> oh no! i'm wrong
[15:40] <daftykins> MikeRL: r,--udfrev= udf-revision Specify the udf revision to use. Valid revisions are 0x0201, 0x0200, 0x0150, and 0x0102. If omitted, mkudffs udf-revision is 0x0201.
[15:40] <daftykins> *-r
[15:40] <daftykins> so it defaults to the newest.
[15:40] <MikeRL> Well, what is 0x0201 standing for?
[15:41] <daftykins> probably v2.01
[15:41] <daftykins> i'm pretty sure you could research this very quickly for a definitive answer
[15:43] <MikeRL> Well, that works, but we still don't have support for UDF 2.5 or 2.6
[15:43] <xPax> lamp-server OR XAMPP? Better on localhost?
[15:43] <OerHeks> !xampp
[15:44] <MikeRL> Well, it currently does not appear to be supported, but I see people may be working on adding better support for the newer versions of UDF.
[15:44] <daftykins> MikeRL: that's assuming this is the only tool available
[15:44] <MikeRL> I mean, am I missing much by using the older versions.
[15:45] <MikeRL> No the kernel doesn't support UDF versions above 2.01.
[15:45] <daftykins> MikeRL: i've got to say though, what is even keeping you making use of optical media? flash drives are now so ubiquitous that they have entirely replaced them really.
[15:45] <MikeRL> Because Live CDs.
[15:45] <daftykins> which everyone puts on flash drives
[15:45] <MikeRL> I never had much success with USB creator.
[15:46] <daftykins> don't use the silly GUI tools, use 'dd'
[15:46] <daftykins> sudo if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=2M
[15:46] <daftykins> done :)
[15:46] <daftykins> infinitely superior boot time and install speed
[15:46] <MikeRL> Well, let me see if the GUI is broken like it was before.
[15:46] <rww> and actually works unlike unetbootin and similar crap
[15:46] <daftykins> rww: +1
[15:47] <BluesKaj> daftykins, dd is great, but dangerous in inexperienced hands
[15:47] <daftykins> BluesKaj: yeah, that's why we're here to guide though :D
[15:47] <TinFury> I'm looking for the source for the tg3 driver. Anyone know EXACTLY where I can download this.
[15:48] <TinFury> I can't findi it on the broadcom site.
[15:48] <TinFury> It's impossible to use the search on the site.
[15:48] <daftykins> that's Broadcom's problem
[15:50] <chotaz`w> TinFury, http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/drivers/net/ethernet/broadcom/ ?
[15:50] <TinFury> chotaz`w, Yea.... you is da greatest... Thanks
[15:50] <TinFury> chotaz`w, I don't know why i have such a hard time searching for these things
[15:51] <chotaz`w> great, I can use google for stuff I have no idea what they are!
[15:51] <djangonoob> this isn't an ubuntu question but mby u can help me. I have an usb flash drive (usb stick) which I can see with lsusb but not with fdisk http://pastebin.com/S9pvTAVY
[15:51] <MikeRL> Well, I'll give the GUI a try. But I'm formatting the USB drive as EXT4. Why the massive delay in using a USB drive? Issues with getting the Startup Disk Creator to work, and the price of USB drives that don't suck compared to DVDs.
[15:51] <TinFury> chotaz`w, I need the entire dirctory right?
[15:51] <daftykins> djangonoob: looks like it's in a USB3 port, try another
[15:52] <chotaz`w> TinFury, can't hlep you there, I have no idea what a tg3 is.
[15:52] <daftykins> MikeRL: i'd have to disagree there, unless you're expecting 16GB for two euro/pound/dollar, most do just fine
[15:52] <MikeRL> Disk to use seems to be blank. I wonder if it's still no ready.
[15:53] <TinFury> k thanks
[15:53] <daftykins> MikeRL: if you can access its' mounted path, that suggests it has a file system written ready to accept data - was it recordable or rewritable media?
[15:53] <MikeRL> All I did was format the flash drive as EXT4.
[15:54] <OerHeks> MikeRL, an ubuntu iso can only be written on Fat32, not ext4 or ntfs
[15:54] <MikeRL> Why doesn't it support EXT4?
[15:54] <djangonoob> daftykins: on this notebook I only have usb3.0 ports. but I tried all of them and windows
[15:54] <daftykins> MikeRL: why would you do that? there doesn't need to be an existing file system on the drive - plus EXT4 would be wrong for live media
[15:54] <MikeRL> Isn't that ironic?
[15:54] <daftykins> djangonoob: and how did Windows handle it?
[15:54] <OerHeks> It is not suitable for hybride iso's.
[15:55] <Krispy> greetings all, looking for a way to upgrade from 14.04 to the newest supported version w/o losing any data...perhaps a sudo apt-get install command?? im running ubuntu on this partition and win10 on the other
[15:55] <daftykins> djangonoob: does "sudo parted -l" differ at all?
[15:55] <MikeRL> Formatting via Nautilus says FAT, but it does not specify FAT, FAT16, or FAT32.
[15:55] <EriC^^> MikeRL: efi needs a fat32 to look for and boot the vmlinuz.efi file
[15:55] <djangonoob> daftykins: it plays a sound but nothing more happens. also in the manager (where I can see the partitions)  I can't see the stick
[15:55] <EriC^^> whatever fat works MikeRL
[15:56] <daftykins> djangonoob: diskmgmt.msc? is this drive new or old? could be faulty.
[15:56] <MikeRL> Double checked with GParted. It's FAT32 now.
[15:56] <daftykins> MikeRL: it would be
[15:57] <MikeRL> Now it's going. Thanks for the help.
[15:57] <MikeRL> Too bad my new laptop has USB3.0, but my desktop does not. And most of my drives are 2.0.
[15:57] <djangonoob> daftykins: "sudo parted -l" looks like fdisk. the drive is brand new. but it was used (not by me) to install windows 7 with an bootable stick.
[15:58] <Krispy> -bot
[15:58] <djangonoob> daftykins: but I thought that a (crashing) software is not able to make an usb stick unusable
[15:58] <daftykins> MikeRL: doesn't matter, it's the lack of rotational latency and high read speed that makes flash media great for live sessions
[15:58] <DJones> Krispy: Thats not that easy now, 14.04 was an LTS release, so won't look for upgrades until 16.04 (which is the next LTS). You could have upgraded to 14.10, then 15.04 and 15.10, but that would three different upgrades and to complicate things, 14.10 is no longer supported, so the normal upgrade path has gone because the repo's have been archived
[15:58] <daftykins> djangonoob: do you have any other systems to try it with?
[15:59] <DJones> Krispy: If you have a seperate /home and you're desperate for newer software, I'd be tempted to fresh install, if not, I'd wait until April 2016 and then upgrade to he next LTS
[16:00] <DJones> Krispy: The second option being preferable
[16:01] <Krispy> i had no idea they had released so many versions in such a short time....now if i make a boot cd from the next LTS (or any other version for that matter) will it try to make a new partition on startup, or will it recognize that i already have ubuntu and simply install over it?
[16:01] <edoardo> ciao
[16:01] <djangonoob> daftykins: I can try it with another windows 7 system with usb 2.0 ports I think... btw, yes it was diskmgmt.msc
[16:02] <daftykins> Krispy: it'd offer some choices to replace, erase, etc... or a manual option to partition yourself.
[16:02] <daftykins> Krispy: given 16.04 is 6 months away though, i don't think you need to consider how to install it right now...
[16:02] <Guest652> hello
[16:02] <DChapman> daftykins: Unless he wants to upgrade to 15.10 as a transition. :)
[16:02] <daftykins> djangonoob: yeah see how you get on there, having a win7 ISO on this flash drive would not stop it being read by Linux
[16:03] <daftykins> DChapman: we're wisely advising against that since it's non-LTS
[16:03] <Krispy> yikes, last time i partitioned the drive w/o letting the ubuntu dvd-r do it...i erased my comp :X
[16:03] <daftykins> Krispy: well this channel is always on hand for help in such times
[16:03] <Krispy> thank you everyone for the advice and help :)
[16:04] <djangonoob> daftykins: I think a friend of mine from which I have this stick told me that the software he was using to format the stick and make it bootable crashed so there isn't rly a iso on it
[16:04]  * Krispy tips hat to the room
[16:04] <DJones> Krispy: Whatever you decide to do, better to ask here beforehand, and most importantly... BACKUP anything critical
[16:05] <Nectar722> Im tring to use duel monitors with my newly insalled gnome 15.10. However, whenever i restart the setting revert ..
[16:05] <daftykins> Nectar722: are you using nvidia graphics and setting the displays with nvidia-settings?
[16:06] <Krispy> DJones: Indeed i will, the first install is easy as i used linux live creator and boot installed ubuntu from a 1 gig stick (ancient) but it did the partitioning between windows and ubuntu for me...partitioning being my weak suit i was hoping a terminal command was an option
[16:06] <Nectar722> daftykins: how would i go about checking that?
[16:06] <daftykins> Nectar722: you should know what you were running to set the displays up, but use the ubuntu monitor settings application in system settings instead.
[16:07] <Krispy> speaking of gnome, is there a way to make alt+tab a hotkey to trasition windows as it does in unity? i have both environments but im addicted to unitys alt+tab toggle
[16:07] <Krispy> other than that, big gnome fan
[16:07] <Nectar722> daftykins: I have been using the system settings
[16:08] <daftykins> Nectar722: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && ls -al ~/ | pastebinit
[16:08] <zoli> hi. How is it possible to move the search filter to the left side (from right) from the dash?
[16:09] <Nectar722> daftykins: okay. done that.
[16:09] <daftykins> it would've created a link to share here if you did
[16:10] <Nectar722> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12903860/
[16:11] <daftykins> hmm ok so no ownership issues
[16:12] <daftykins> Nectar722: what graphics hardware + driver is in use?
[16:12] <djangonoob> daftykins: I tried the stick on another pc with usb 2.0 and windows. the led from the stick is glowing but nothing more happens
[16:13] <Nectar722> daftykins: Im not sure. Eveything worked in ubuntu 15.04.
[16:13] <daftykins> Nectar722: yeah that doesn't matter anymore though, ok "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" please
[16:14] <Nectar722> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12903900/
[16:15] <daftykins> are you remotely connecting to this system?
[16:15] <Nectar722> daftykins: no
[16:16] <daftykins> Nectar722: the log there claims both displays come up together o0 does an /etc/X11/xorg.conf exist? (it shouldn't)
[16:16]  * Krispy any way to get gnome environment to have the alt+tab hotkey as is in unity to toggle between programs?
[16:17] <Nectar722> daftykins: does not exist
[16:17] <daftykins> ok, hmm
[16:18] <TJ-> Nectar722: "pastebinit <( xrandr -q )"
[16:18] <Krispy> Nectar722: * [daftykins] (~daftykins@pdpc/supporter/21for7/daftykins): daftykins
[16:18] <Krispy> * [daftykins] #ubuntu
[16:18] <Krispy> * [daftykins] kornbluth.freenode.net :Frankfurt, Germany
[16:18] <Krispy> * [daftykins] is using a secure connection
[16:18] <Krispy> * [daftykins] is logged in as Daftykins
[16:18] <Krispy> * [daftykins] End of WHOIS list.
[16:18] <MikeRL> Failed on installing the bootloader. Got a password prompt but I was too late.
[16:19] <daftykins> Krispy: yes i am here, alive, active - but don't have a clue about your question :)
[16:19] <Nectar722> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12903943/
[16:19] <nicomachus> Krispy: Should be able to change it in your keyboard shortcuts options, but i'm not sure exactly where that is in gnome. Should just be in System Settings
[16:20] <Krispy> lol, i was just curious cause nectar couldnt find ya so i showed him you existed...wasnt trying to single ya out i hopped topics
[16:20] <TJ-> Nectar722: At this moment do you have both screens active?
[16:20] <MikeRL> Maybe I have to be there while creating the boot media.
[16:20] <daftykins> MikeRL: what do you mean?
[16:20] <Nectar722> TJ-: yes
[16:20] <TJ-> Nectar722: OK, so we know what the system-config settings tool *should* save !
[16:21] <MikeRL> I went away from the desktop, and the display turned off, but it did not enter sleep. I went to do some cleaning for five or ten minutes.
[16:21] <Krispy> Nectars whois also responded in turn
[16:21] <Krispy> nicomachus: thank you
[16:21] <MikeRL> Then I came back and got a password prompt for it to install the bootloader. I entered in my password, but I think it timed out.
[16:22] <MikeRL> It also just likes to sit at 96% for a long time.
[16:22] <Nectar722> TJ-: te monitor has come on. I went on the settings menu and it flickered on. However i dont wat to have to do that every time, it idealy should work automatially..
[16:22] <MikeRL> Now you know why I've delayed using USB drives for Ubuntu live sessions and installs.
[16:23] <MikeRL> I've had some bad luck with the Startup Disk Creator.
[16:23] <Nectar722> TJ-: does that make sense
[16:23] <zotherstupidguy> hey guys, my laptop just lost sound today, what to do?
[16:24] <daftykins> MikeRL: well i did suggest _not_ using it, so...
[16:24] <MonkeyDust> zotherstupidguy  this is ubuntu support, sure you're in the right channel?
[16:24] <MikeRL> Wait.
[16:24] <MikeRL> It just worked. You just can't leave it unattended or it reports a failure.
[16:24] <Krispy> hmm, i turned on notifications /notify on and noticed it didnt make a sound when i was being addressed in here...seems that as far as sound settings go on hexchat...they dont exist
[16:25] <zotherstupidguy> MonkeyDust as i am running ubuntu server, yeah :)
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> zotherstupidguy  i misread, diregard my question
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> dis*
[16:25] <zotherstupidguy> its okay :)
[16:25] <zotherstupidguy> any of you been having trouble with sound, how did u reslove it
[16:26] <pbx> !details| zotherstupidguy
[16:26] <TJ-> Nectar722: Yes; I'm trying to identify which configuration file the setting should be saved to
[16:26] <Krispy> !pastebin
[16:27] <StevenXL> Hi everyone.
[16:27] <OerHeks> zotherstupidguy, goodstart https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[16:27] <zotherstupidguy> pbx i am running ubuntu server and openbox, and today i lost sound all of a sudden, i want to fix it from console and live happily ever after
[16:28] <MikeRL> Thanks guys. Well, now comes the fun part. Upgrading clean. But first I need to backup my PPAs using Y PPA Manager, and then manually edit them after I transfer them to the new release.
[16:28] <MikeRL> I am able to preserve them, but it takes a while and a lot of manual work to get it working again.
[16:29] <Starn> TJ-, hey! you're on
[16:29] <Bomber4Chats> I've just ran memtest. It passed successfully. I still have random freeze errors and crash errors
[16:30] <Starn> TJ-, sorry man i've been really busy with a lot of personal things.. any thing new from that log?
[16:30] <OerHeks> MikeRL, ppa names are stored in the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ folder
[16:30] <daftykins> Bomber4Chats: checked your hard disk health?
[16:30] <OerHeks> store them on pastebin, write the number
[16:30] <Bomber4Chats> With?
[16:31] <newuser> hello friends please help me recently installed ubuntu 14.04 lts but not able to login i am entering correct password please help me
[16:31] <sith_rocker> i need some networking help
[16:32] <MikeRL> Well, what I like to do is Dropbox a few things I lazily keep on my desktop. Then, I copy them to Dropbox and paste them back on my new install.
[16:32] <daftykins> sith_rocker: ##networking is more relevant, but ask away
[16:32] <MikeRL> I can organize the files later.
[16:32] <Starn> OerHeks, is tj afk?
[16:32] <ref^^^> virtual box, windows 10 host, running ubuntu, just added the guest thing so I can have higher resolution, but now I can't change any system settings! the settings button does not even appear on the left
[16:32] <MikeRL> There's only 11 of them.
[16:32] <newuser>  hello friends please help me recently installed ubuntu 14.04 lts but not able to login i am entering correct password please help me
[16:33] <sith_rocker> i'll ask there thank you
[16:33] <OerHeks> newuser, maybe you suffer this issue http://askubuntu.com/questions/146137/login-screen-loops-unless-you-login-as-guest
[16:33] <Bomber4Chats> daftykins, with?
[16:33] <MikeRL> Thanks daftykins and others. I will be leaving now to install the upgrade on several machines.
[16:33] <TJ-> Starn: what log? remind me. I deal with many issues on here and quickly forget
[16:33] <newuser> thankyou will try your link and then give you feedback
[16:34] <Starn> TJ-, you downloaded it from google drive it still having issues with that bloody aptd and software center.
[16:35] <Starn> TJ-, and sorry if my grammar is off i haven't had my caffeine today.
[16:35] <TJ-> Nectar722: can you do "pastebinit ~/.config/monitor.xml"
[16:35] <daftykins> Bomber4Chats: sudo apt-get install pastebinit smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | pastebinit"
[16:35] <daftykins> er -"
[16:35] <Starn> TJ-, i had to use pushd command to compress the 288mb log file for ya.
[16:36] <Bomber4Chats> daftykins, thanks!
[16:36] <Nectar722> TJ-: "Unable to read from: /home/nectar/.config/monitor.xml"
[16:36] <lettuce45> what command do I execute after upgrading to clean? what others are recommended?
[16:36] <daftykins> Bomber4Chats: link me with the URL it spits out
[16:36] <daftykins> lettuce45: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get autoremove
[16:36] <TJ-> Starn: Oh! The Software Center strace log. Unfortunately it only showed the process 'spinning', repeatedly re-reading the package lists
[16:37] <TJ-> Nectar722: "pastebinit <( ls -altr ~/.config/ )"
[16:37] <lettuce45> daftykins, are those 2 commands, meaning I have to copy up to the ";" and then execute the second one, or can I execute both at once?
[16:37] <Nectar722> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12904123/
[16:37] <Starn> TJ-, yeah that's kind of what i was thinking it was doing. today i woke up got onto the computer and my computer apparently crashed last night. aptd had an error report. so i sent the report in like it asked me to do
[16:38] <daftykins> lettuce45: be a devil and experiment.
[16:38] <Starn> TJ-, i'm thinking i might need to reinstall ubuntu really hoping to avoid that.
[16:39] <TJ-> Starn: If I recall correctly the basic problem was a race condition, whereby the program tried to access a file before it had been fetched/cached... or the opposite of that
[16:39] <TJ-> Nectar722: have you tried opening the ~/.config/monitor.xml file in a text editor? There's a 'backup' file in that directory which suggests so
[16:39] <vertago1_> Samba user authentication seems to be broken after upgrading to 15.10
[16:40] <TJ-> Nectar722: s/monitor.xml/monitors.xml/
[16:40] <Starn> TJ-, does that mean it's missing a file? say maybe something from my ubuntu one account from an old purchase back in 2012?
[16:40] <Starn> TJ-, or a missing resp?
[16:41] <TJ-> Starn: I couldn't make it out, but it seems like its bad programming causing a race condition particularly with slow (wifi) networks
[16:41] <Nectar722> TJ-: Im not sure what that is about. Its a new install. Used the settings though..
[16:42] <TJ-> Nectar722: OK, so maybe the system-settings tool does that. Let's look at what is in those: "pastebinit ~/.config/monitors.xml*"
[16:42] <Starn> TJ-, soooo just stick with synaptic package manager? 'cause i have no way to go wired.
[16:42] <TJ-> Starn: Until the dev's pay attention to the S.C. issue, yes.
[16:43] <Nectar722> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12904203/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/12904204/
[16:43] <daftykins> Bomber4Chats: did you get the resulting link yet?
[16:43] <Starn> TJ-, alright i guess i can deal with that. well thank you so much for looking into this with me.  there's no way i could do what you're doing talking to multiple people at one time every day helping fix their problems greatly appreciate it
[16:44] <Twirl> hi, anyone knows if it's possible to change the colors/brightness etc of one of the monitors only when using dual monitors?
[16:44] <Bomber4Chats> Daftykins, it'll take a while, I'm on other tasks atm
[16:44] <TJ-> Nectar722: the only difference I see there is one file shows the VGA1 output in portrait mode, the other in landscape
[16:44] <daftykins> Bomber4Chats: ok
[16:45] <Nectar722> TJ-: Ye. i use the dell in portrate
[16:45] <TJ-> Nectar722: I think you've found a bug in the Gnome plumbing
[16:46] <TJ-> Nectar722: seems like the system-settings tool writes the config but nothing reads it
[16:46] <Twirl> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/brightness-controller/ -> not found in your software sources
[16:46] <daftykins> TJ-: Nectar722 is it worth creating a second user to test?
[16:47] <TJ-> Nectar722: I think it is bug 1292398
[16:47] <Nectar722> daftykins:yea. i can. but i will have to reload the irc...
[16:47] <TJ-> Apparently it is gnome-settings-daemon bug
[16:47] <Nectar722> TJ-: no fixes?
[16:48] <Nectar722> TJ-: i dont know why they changed it in the first place, aint broke dont fix it sorta thing.
[16:49] <TJ-> Nectar722: there's some discussion of workarounds here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450767/multi-display-issue-with-ubuntu-gnome-14-04
[16:49] <Twirl> sry for the noob question guys, anyone knows how to download this? https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/trusty/brightness-controller/
[16:49] <TJ-> Nectar722: you said the PC as release-upgraded? That's more than enough to break it. New versions of software, functionality ripped out/changed/not configured correctly
[16:50] <Nectar722> TJ-: I see.
[16:50] <Nectar722> TJ-: Ill try the work around and if it doesnt work reinstalled15.04
[16:51] <TJ-> Nectar722: comment 84 in that bug report suggests "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xrandr default-monitors-setup do-nothing"
[16:51] <lettuce45> what happens if I cancel an upgrading? all packages have been downloaded but I may have to turn off the laptop before it finishes
[16:51] <TJ-> Nectar722: reinstalling the OS won't fix it
[16:51] <vertago1_> So no one here has had any problems with samba after upgrading to 15.10?
[16:52] <Nectar722> TJ-: Before i upgraded to 15.10, 15.04 worked fine for me
[16:52] <TJ-> Nectar722: Oh, you mean downgrade effectively! Sorry, I got the versions mixed up
[16:53] <TJ-> lettuce45: the packages will be saved in apt's archive directory, so they don't need downloading again
[16:53] <lettuce45> TJ-, will the already extracted packages have to be extracted again?
[16:53] <UserUS> lettuce: not a good idea
[16:53] <daftykins> vertago1_: likelihood of finding someone that's here with the same issue is pretty low, why don't you construct an askubuntu.com / pastebin site post with more detail and logs of what you're seeing?
[16:54] <TJ-> lettuce45: Yes
[16:54] <TJ-> lettuce45: not good to stop it after it is unpacking / configuring packages though
[16:54] <vertago1_> daftykins, I will once I make sure what I have works in 15.04
[16:55] <Twirl> anyone knows how to download/install this? it probably doesn't come up because im on 15.04 ??
[16:55] <vertago1_> dftykins, I am going to try to setup a linux container to get it back up and running since I have already troubleshooted it for a few hours with no luck
[16:55] <daftykins> Twirl: "this" ?
[16:55] <Twirl> daftykins: sorry forgot to pase the link lol https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/trusty/brightness-controller/
[16:55] <Nectar722> TJ-: On the ask ubuntu forum, the link you gave, would does the workaround with 27 upvotes look fine in your opinion?
[16:55] <Twirl> someone installed it 10 days ago and gave it positive review so there has to be a way to install it!!
[16:56] <daftykins> Twirl: not since they could still be using 14.04
[16:56] <Twirl> daftykins: so, any workaround??
[16:56] <daftykins> Twirl: one moment
[16:56] <TJ-> Nectar722: Try the command in comment 84 of the bug report I told you about a moment ago
[16:56] <TJ-> Nectar722: comment 84 in that bug report suggests "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xrandr default-monitors-setup do-nothing"
[16:57] <lettuce45> what comes after unpacking packages?
[16:58] <OerHeks> lettuce45, is this a quiz during install ?
[16:58] <lettuce45> it is not a quiz to ask what comes after a process is finished
[16:59] <Nectar722> TJ-: I dont know how i would go about doing "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.xrandr default-monitors-setup do-nothing"
[16:59] <TJ-> Nectar722: type/copy/paste it to a terminal and press enter
[16:59] <UserUS> the packacges are downloaded, unpacked,  and configured with your system and kernel is updated
[16:59] <daftykins> Twirl: clicking the down arrow allowed me to open this packages page in the software center, which then had a link to the authors github.io page, where there is a downloadable .deb - now that's not ideal since you'll have to go back manually for updates, but it'll probably install and work ok
[17:00] <Nectar722> TJ-: I guess i restart now..
[17:00] <TJ-> Nectar722: no, just log-out and back in
[17:00] <BadDream-Tablet> Halp please...i tried installing amd drivers from their webpage and i just get a flashing cursor after reboot...i  booted into recovery mode now
[17:00] <TJ-> Nectar722: Linux rarely requires a reboot for user-profile issues
[17:00] <daftykins> BadDream-Tablet: remount the disk read-write and run their uninstall script
[17:01] <A1F4> any one know about ubuntu mate , is it good for beginners ?
[17:01] <Twirl> daftykins: awesome, gonna give it a try
[17:01] <BadDream-Tablet> Ok daftykins.... unsure how to do that tho
[17:01] <Nectar722> TJ-: THe problem with the monitors occours when i retart though.
[17:01] <daftykins> A1F4: sure it is
[17:01] <Twirl> daftykins: can u plz give me the link bc i cant open it in the software center
[17:02] <A1F4> how it is different from plane ubuntu release.
[17:02] <BadDream-Tablet> Ive remounted the filesytem....now drop to root prompt.?
[17:02] <daftykins> Twirl: http://lordamit.github.io/Brightness/
[17:02] <yer> dont be a fagit
[17:02] <daftykins> A1F4: it uses the MATE desktop instead of the Unity one
[17:02] <daftykins> BadDream-Tablet: yes
[17:02] <BadDream-Tablet> Im on my tablet to char here... i dknt know the command to uninstall it
[17:03] <daftykins> BadDream-Tablet: look it up on AMD's page for how to uninstall.
[17:03] <BadDream-Tablet> Im at the shell prompt
[17:03] <BadDream-Tablet> Ok thanks
[17:05] <Twirl> daftykins: primary: not found, secondary: not found :(
[17:06] <Twirl> i shouldnt have upgraded to 15.04 but that was months ago
[17:06] <Twirl> too late to go back i guess
[17:06] <daftykins> Twirl: contact the developer via that site, or reboot :)
[17:06] <daftykins> well you can't downgrade.
[17:06] <ioria> Twirl, do you have python-wxgtk2.8 installed ?
[17:06] <Twirl> ioria: yea
[17:06] <Twirl> daftykins: can reboot help?
[17:06] <daftykins> maybe, how much does it hurt to try?
[17:07] <A1F4> no unity, nice
[17:07] <A1F4> thank you
[17:07] <Twirl> daftykins: 15 mins, not that bad
[17:07] <ioria> Twirl, download from here https://github.com/lordamit/Brightness/archive/master.zip
[17:08] <daftykins> 15 minute reboot? what? :)
[17:08] <Twirl> ioria: all that has is a python file
[17:08] <ioria> Twirl, have you unzipped it ?
[17:08] <Twirl> daftykins: yea my installation is old and i have hundreds of packages and something is probably doing something it shouldnt
[17:08] <Twirl> ioria: yep
[17:09] <ioria> Twirl, go in src
[17:09] <Twirl> yea its brightness.py
[17:09] <daftykins> Twirl: that's pretty terrible.
[17:09] <Twirl> i could run it with python
[17:09] <ioria> Twirl, click it
[17:10] <Twirl> i ran it with python and it shows the same message, primary not found secondary not found
[17:10] <BadDream-Tablet> Daftykins i tried the instructio s on the amd website and got only errors
[17:10] <ioria> Twirl, weird... working for me....
[17:10] <Nectat277> TJ-: No luck there. Might attempt a fix from the ubuntu forum next.?
[17:10] <Twirl> ioria: u in 15.04?
[17:10] <Nectat277> TJ-: If that fails a downgrade, sadly.
[17:10] <ioria> Twirl, and it changes on the fly  ...
[17:11] <ioria> Twirl, 15.10
[17:11] <daftykins> BadDream-Tablet: i'd need to see what you did, can't see from here :)
[17:11] <Twirl> ioria: should i reboot?
[17:11] <ioria> Twirl, idk... it's just  a py script ...
[17:11] <BadDream-Tablet> I cant show you daftykins...id pastebin if i could...thats ok....ill find help elsewhere
[17:12] <daftykins> BadDream-Tablet: just type what you ran...
[17:12] <Twirl> ioria: i just installed the second monitor
[17:12] <Twirl> maybe i need to make it work or something
[17:12] <ioria> Twirl, i'm VGA ....
[17:13] <Twirl> im going to try and reboot
[17:13] <Twirl> if it doesnt work ill try something else
[17:14] <Starn> TJ-, is there away to get aptd to stop using 100% cpu when software center nor synaptic are not running?
[17:15] <BadDream-Tablet> Daftykins its not letting me copy the text but in the uninstall proprietary driver section i tried all 3 commands   http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Catalyst-Linux-Installer-Notes.aspx#Uninstall
[17:16] <daftykins> BadDream-Tablet: and what did the errors look like, for the most part?
[17:16] <daftykins> BadDream-Tablet: it would've been "sudo sh /home/username/Downloads/amd-driver-installer....run --uninstall" i would think
[17:16] <daftykins> (if that's where you had downloaded it to)
[17:17] <BadDream-Tablet> The first one invalid option --u aticonfig parsing the command line failed and the seco d two  cant open (name of file)
[17:18] <daftykins> BadDream-Tablet: do you have the installer there? check with "ls /home/username/Downloads/"
[17:18] <BadDream-Tablet> Kk checking
[17:19] <Nectar277> TJ-: Still not working. :\
[17:20] <Nectar277> TJ-: I might have to dwngrade but i like 15.10 so much
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: did you upgrade from 15.04?
[17:21] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: yeah.
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: could consider a clean install of 15.10 rather than an upgrade from an existing install.
[17:21] <daftykins> or just test a clean user as i suggested
[17:21] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: Tried that
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: what's the issue?
[17:21] <Nectar277> daftykins: Indeed!I forgot about doing that.
[17:21] <BadDream-Tablet> Daftykins its not in my downloads....i chose to open the file with ubuntu software center....it was a deb file
[17:22] <daftykins> BadDream-Tablet: oh really, ok run this "dpkg -l | grep fglrx" and note what you see
[17:22] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: Whenever i restart, all my monitor settings are reverted (not saved)
[17:22] <danakil> hello. I'm currently upgrading from 15.04 to 15.10 (Kubuntu) but the installer seems stuck at 71% in the package installation step
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: culd formulate an xorg.conf, or xrandr command to set the res each boot
[17:23] <danakil> any idea if I can kill it and try again
[17:23] <danakil> ?
[17:23] <danakil> I can't even click on the "show terminal" button
[17:24] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: Its strange that the monitor refereshes whenever i go onto settings and everything is fine..
[17:24] <BadDream-Tablet> Thees 5 kines of stuff that came up daftykins...want me to type it all?
[17:24] <daftykins> BadDream-Tablet: no just look if there is "ii" beside "fglrx" and others
[17:24] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: But not automatically.
[17:24] <BadDream-Tablet> Lines
[17:24] <BadDream-Tablet> The 3 have ii and the lasr
[17:24] <BadDream-Tablet> Last 2 have rc
[17:24] <daftykins> BadDream-Tablet: ok run "sudo apt-get purge fglrx* " <-- take note of the asterisk at the end there, afterwards, reboot normally
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: not sue, but there is a workaround...
[17:25] <BadDream-Tablet> Tyty
[17:25] <Twirl> well, daftykins, ioria it doesnt work
[17:25] <Twirl> doesn't detect the monitors
[17:25] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: Ive tried. Cant get it working though.
[17:25] <daftykins> Twirl: oh well, LTS is best - but it sounds like your install is pretty mucked up
[17:25] <daftykins> Twirl: you did try running the python script as root i take it?
[17:26] <Twirl> daftykins: as root?
[17:26] <daftykins> Twirl: yeah.
[17:26] <Twirl> daftykins: sudo python brightness.py "IBUS-WARNING **: The owner of /home/ayy/.config/ibus/bus is not root!" and still the same
[17:27] <ioria> Twirl, donot
[17:27] <ioria> don't
[17:27] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: could you guide me though a work around?
[17:27] <Twirl> well it doesnt work anyways
[17:27] <Twirl> maybe i could fix the script
[17:28] <ioria> Twirl, dpkg -l  xrandr
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: what application do you use to set the reslution?
[17:28] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: Screendisplay in settings
[17:29] <BadDream-Tablet> Yayyyy daftykins i was able to boot up.....you the man/woman
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: ok, then if you run:  xrandr    what is the output?
[17:29] <Twirl> ioria: i have xrandr
[17:30] <Twirl> ioria: but i think the script is not getting the desired output of xrandr -q
[17:30] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12904668/
[17:30] <EriC^^> Twirl: what's the problem?
[17:31] <Twirl> EriC^^: the script is not detecting the displays
[17:31] <EriC^^> what's the initial problem?
[17:31] <Twirl> EriC^^: i need to change the brigthness of one of my monitors
[17:31] <Twirl> EriC^^: found a script that works for everyone except me i guess
[17:31] <EriC^^> Twirl: ok, type ls /sys/class/backlight/ and paste here
[17:31] <ioria> Twirl, i have to say  that  now i'm using lxde ... i haven't tested it in Unity
[17:32] <Twirl> EriC^^: acpi_video0  intel_backlight
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: ok, you can use that output to create xrandr commands to set the resolution after you login
[17:32] <EriC^^> Twirl: try echo "1000" | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness
[17:33] <Twirl> EriC^^: 1000
[17:33] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: Its not just resolution. It is montor position too.
[17:33] <Twirl> now what?
[17:33] <EriC^^> Twirl: did the brightness change?
[17:33] <EriC^^> is it already dimmed?
[17:33] <Twirl> i dont think it change
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: that is part of xrandr commands
[17:34] <EriC^^> Twirl: is it dimmed right now or you want it dimmed?
[17:34] <Twirl> i want it dimmed, its not dimmed
[17:34] <ioria> Twirl, which video driver  in use ?
[17:34] <Twirl> i would like to change the gamma instead of the brightness tho
[17:34] <Twirl> ioria: idk
[17:35] <EriC^^> Twirl: ok, type cat /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/max_brightness
[17:35] <Twirl> or saturation
[17:35] <Twirl> 7
[17:35] <EriC^^> Twirl: did you try xbacklight? sudo apt-get install xbacklight ?
[17:35] <EriC^^> Twirl: try echo "1" | sudo tee /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[17:36] <Twirl> EriC^^: nope i havent tried it, i just want to dim one of the monitors not both of them
[17:36] <ioria> Twirl, the py script should work  ...  no i try with 15.04
[17:36] <ioria> *now
[17:37] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: Is there not a way to refresh the settings once i login?
[17:37] <Twirl> EriC^^: that didnt change anything
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: not sure, I use xorg.conf because I'm old school
[17:37] <Twirl> ioria: u have 2 monitors?
[17:38] <ioria> Twirl, not now... but it works also with just  one
[17:38] <Twirl> ioria: it might work with one but i have two external monitors connected to my notebook, the setup is very different than yours
[17:39] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: Is there a simple way to do this?
[17:39] <goddard> is there any way I can save terminal sessions on close?
[17:39] <Amara> why no 64bit build for the latest stable (v4.2.4) linux? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.2.4-unstable/ Any info about this?
[17:39] <EriC^^> Twirl: xrandr can set brightness
[17:39] <goddard> so like if I have 5 tabs open in the terminal it will resume?
[17:39] <Twirl> EriC^^: what about gamma/saturation/other colors?
[17:39] <Twirl> EriC^^: is there a GUI?
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: all I can suggest is use xrandr to run after login to setup the display
[17:40] <EriC^^> Twirl: type man xrandr then type "/brightness" and press n a few times
[17:40] <Twirl> in windows i have an intel GUI that can do all of this stupidly easy
[17:40] <EriC^^> it explains what it does
[17:40] <Amara> woah ipv6?
[17:40] <Lisaaaa> Can somebody help me ?
[17:40] <Lisaaaa> http://pastebin.com/wPfy7Kg8
[17:41] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: What should i use for a xrand command in Startup Applications?
[17:41] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: atm i have a command "pkill -9 -f gnome-settings-daemon"
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Lisaaaa: what is the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; apt-cache policy libssl1.0.0:armhf libpython3.4-minimal:armhf libssl1.0.0:armhf
[17:42] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: ive nty used it recently. There will be lots of examples online. You can use your xrandr output to formulate the command(s)
[17:43] <Twirl> EriC^^: yea that did it
[17:43] <Twirl> EriC^^: can i change the saturation?
[17:43] <Nectar277> ActionParsnip: What i need to do is formulate a command and add it to Startup Applcations?#
[17:43] <Twirl> or the colors?
[17:44] <EriC^^> i have no idea, i guess though
[17:44] <Twirl> oh yea
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: yes
[17:45] <vertago1_> daftykins, I submitted a bug report because I was able to get it to work on 15.04 using a linux container, but it doesn't work in 15.10
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> Nectar277: you'll need a bash script to set the screen up, then add it to the startup items in your session using the startup items manager
[17:46] <Twirl> EriC^^:  xrandr --output VGA1 --gamma 0.8:0.7:0.8
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Amara: thats an unofficial kernel repo, they can put whatever they want to in there, or omit
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Amara: why not contact the PPA maintainer, ask them directly....
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> Amara: there may be no intention of adding it, that's their choice
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Amara: is the current kernel not running your hardware?
[17:48] <Amara> ActionParsnip, Thanks, they usually almost every time include 64bits but this time.
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Amara: is the current kernel not running your hardware?
[17:48] <Amara> ActionParsnip, No it is now, that's why I am using a newer kernel branch.
[17:48] <Amara> not
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> Amara: worth a shot, its free
[17:48] <Twirl> EriC^^: its perfect,  man u think the changes will be permanent?
[17:49] <Lisaaaa> Here you go http://pastebin.com/9bHGm46E
[17:49] <EriC^^> Twirl: no i think it's temporary
[17:49] <Amara> ActionParsnip, 4.1 and up runs good, now I am on 4.2, but can't find a compiled 64bits linux for it. ;_;
[17:49] <Amara> Will contacts the ppa maintainer.
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> Amara: if it runs good, why the change?
[17:50] <EriC^^> Twirl: you have to add it to startup apps so it runs it when you login
[17:50] <Twirl> EriC^^: how..?
[17:50] <Lisaaaa> @ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/9bHGm46E
[17:50] <BarnabasDK> gnome-screensaver seems to always set my laptop+external screen to mirror after you turn of screensaver. Anyone have an idea why and where to change it?
[17:50] <Amara> ActionParsnip, there is dot release, meaning bug/security fixes, I think I should upgrade, and 4.2 runs better on my hardware.
[17:50] <EriC^^> Twirl: go to the dash > startup
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Amara: but if what you have works, why bother? did you even check the changelog?
[17:51] <Lisaaaa> @ActionParsnip http://pastebin.com/9bHGm46E
[17:51] <Twirl> EriC^^: k
[17:51] <dk_> :Q
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Amara: sounds like you're blindly chasing version numbers. "Newer is better"..yeah?
[17:53] <Amara> ActionParsnip, Nah, 4.1 fixes my cpu non-sleeping on poweroff issues, 4.2 fixes unresponsive audio after lid of. So I am just trying to get 4.2's latest release, that I think it has security fixes.
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Amara: well remember that we cannot support kernels that are not from the official ubuntu repos in here
[17:54] <daftykins> Amara: which release are you throwing all these newer mainline kernels on?
[17:54] <Lisaaaa> Still there ?
[17:55] <Amara> ActionParsnip, Thanks, I'll keep that in my mind. daftykins 14.04.
[17:55] <daftykins> Amara: i suggest you try booting a full 15.10 live session and see how things behave
[17:55] <Amara> daftykins, why do you suggest that?
[17:56] <daftykins> because it's sensible
[17:57] <daftykins> Lisaaaa: is this a rasPi v2?
[17:58] <daftykins> Lisaaaa: is this a rasPi v2?
[17:59] <Lisaaaa> Sorry did I missed something http://pastebin.com/wPfy7Kg8
[17:59] <Amara> daftykins, there should be, I'd startpage it.
[17:59] <Lisaaaa> http://pastebin.com/9bHGm46E
[17:59] <daftykins> Amara: i don't follow your comment
[17:59] <TJ-> Amara: seems the amd64 build.log shows a failure in the build script
[17:59] <daftykins> Lisaaaa: is this a rasPi v2 or...?
[18:00] <Amara> daftykins, sorry, say "this" as "there", TJ- Thank you! I should have checked it.
[18:00] <Amara> s/say/saw
[18:00] <TJ-> Amara: As daftykins says you could also use a set of Wily kernel packages
[18:00] <Lisaaaa> Yes
[18:00] <Lisaaaa> Something similar
[18:01] <daftykins> Lisaaaa: that's 'no' then; be specific. try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure libssl1.0.0"
[18:03] <Amara> TJ-, I also should've done that, I got as daftykins was recommending me to use another release, not another release's kernel. Thanks again.
[18:03] <daftykins> Amara: no i was suggesting you boot a *live* session to test
[18:03] <Lisaaaa> Me again, Windows rebooted
[18:04] <Amara> daftykins, and I told you I didn't understand why, and you didn't tell me the reason for it ;_;
[18:04] <Lisaaaa> http://pastebin.com/TxaXt9UB
[18:05] <daftykins> Amara: yep, 5 minutes of your time is all it'd take :)
[18:05] <daftykins> Lisaaaa: sudo apt-get install --reinstall libssl1.0.0
[18:07] <Lisaaaa> http://pastebin.com/QmjSkcJ0 apt-get install -f does not work
[18:08] <nbusrone> May I ask , Which compression method benefits when it comes to corrupted data retrieving ?
[18:08] <jalmeida>  #openlayers
[18:09] <daftykins> Lisaaaa: is this a fresh install on whatever this arm toy is?
[18:09] <netlar> HI all
[18:09] <daftykins> hello
[18:09] <Lisaaaa> It is an week old 15.04
[18:10] <netlar> daftykins: Can you hilight my name, need to test somehjting
[18:10] <daftykins> Lisaaaa: i think you've added a PPA or some similar that is ruining things, #ubuntu-arm might be able to help further
[18:10] <Amara> netameta, May do I that?
[18:10] <Amara> I
[18:10] <Lisaaaa> Just a Nginx Mainline ppa
[18:11] <Amara> Oh wrong nick, wrong grammar, I am too tired.
[18:11] <booker_> Hello.
[18:12] <Traskian> Allo
[18:13] <dym> Hey all! Im running a Ubuntu AMI in AWS and trying to get sftponly working
[18:13] <daftykins> let me guess, you're sharing web hosting? ;)
[18:14] <dym> daftykins: well for one i should not have pressed enter until i got my entire message across :D
[18:14] <dym> daftykins: im on amazon webservices EC2. So not really :D
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> i was looking up "ami"... first hit: "sexy women boots"...
[18:15] <dym> <3
[18:16] <daftykins> dym: so generally you need to say what you tried, what's not working... etc
[18:17] <dym> daftykins: i know! :) im trying to grab the error message. as previously mentioned: enter was not a good choice.
[18:17] <daftykins> hehe ok
[18:18] <dym> well okay i cant access the machine right now but anyways. i configured sftponly and added a user and a config to it
[18:18] <dym> i get a connection (cause the sftp server banner is sent across) but then it says conenction refused as it tries to connect elsewhere
[18:18] <dym> which i dont understand
[18:18] <bs0d> Hello. Please recommend an UI front end for git and svn
[18:20] <OerHeks> bs0d, sans comic or ubuntu, your choise
[18:22] <OerHeks> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-font-family
[18:22] <nicomachus> comic sans is best sans
[18:23] <bs0d> OerHeks: what is sans comic?
[18:23] <durt> Hey folks, anyone upgrade to 15.10 and lose their 3g usb modem? It connects, it gets an IP, there's a new gateway, but pinging google returns 'network unreachable', any clues?
[18:24] <daftykins> durt: confirm config with "ip route" ? i know you said it got a new one, but is it the default?
[18:24] <nbusrone> May I ask , Which compression method benefits when it comes to corrupted data retrieving ?
[18:25] <durt> daftykins, will have to boot back to ubuntu, what exactly am I looking for?
[18:25] <daftykins> durt: whether the 3G connections' endpoint is the new default gateway or not
[18:25] <Amara> nbusrone, I can't understand your question, rephrase that?
[18:26] <daftykins> nbusrone: not sure i see the connection between compression and data recovery?
[18:26] <durt> daftykins, with 'route'? It'll say 'default' right?
[18:27] <daftykins> durt: i said "ip route"
[18:27] <daftykins> it'll be obvious, trust me
[18:27] <durt> daftykins, ok, I'll look at that, thnks
[18:27] <Bergiu> hello
[18:28] <daftykins> hi
[18:30] <user1__> hello
[18:30] <daftykins> hi
[18:31] <cwage> anyone here have any experience with multibootusb? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallAndBootMultipleLinuxFromPendriveFlashDriveUSBDisk -- it's working brilliantly for me except it doesn't seem to actually install a bootloader on the USB drive of any kind. am i crazy? what am i missing? not sure this is the right venue for this, feel free to recommend others
[18:31] <teward> lastlog Nginx Mainline
[18:31] <teward> oops
[18:31] <user1__> anyone tryied linux deepin ?
[18:32] <daftykins> user1__: it's not on topic here, nor is chat
[18:32] <daftykins> user1__: you'll basically get no support for that distro, so i'd recommend avoiding it.
[18:33] <user1__> ok thx daftykins
[18:33] <wileee> cwage, I like this multiloader myself, as an option. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[18:34] <nicomachus> I just cannot figure out how to get this package (liboxidqtcore0) straightened out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12905302/
[18:34] <nbusrone> Amara , daftykins : What I meant is , which compression format eg: zip , 7zip , rar ,  ar.gz, .tgz, .tar.Z, .tar.bz2, .tbz2, .tar.lzma, .tlz , if it get corrupted in an sdcard , which one have a higher chance getting it recover or partially recover
[18:35] <daftykins> nicomachus: there's mention of the package being corrupted, "sudo apt-get clean" and try again?
[18:35] <wileee> cwage, There might be a quick option on your app that allows adding and removing iso's without running grub, look in preferences...etc
[18:35] <nicomachus> ahhhh I didn't try clean. thanks daftykins
[18:35] <Mythikos> Does anyone know how to create/input/attach icons for Ubuntu's launcher? Respective to Steam games, amongst other things
[18:36] <Amara> nbusrone, rar with extra recovery records or something like that, check it while rar'ing.
[18:36] <inteus> rar + par2
[18:36] <nicomachus> ordered a new mobo, RAM, and NIC that should be here early next week, so hopefully I won't have as many corrupted packages occurring.
[18:36] <OerHeks> Mythikos, normally you could drag them, or pin them when the app is open, or create > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[18:37] <cwage> wileee: i'll check it out, thanks!
[18:37] <daftykins> nicomachus: something faulty at the moment?
[18:37] <daftykins> guess it could be if packages are coming down bad!
[18:37] <MonkeyDust> Mythikos  go to /usr/share/applications/ and drag the icon of you want to the launch bar
[18:38] <nbusrone> Amara : I mean which format is easier for recovery ? even some of the data is corrupted , a higher chance for recovery
[18:38] <Amara> nbusrone, par(2?) I guess
[18:39] <Mythikos> OerHeks & MonkeyDust Let me show you what I am looking at https://i.imgur.com/eZxPjE2.png
[18:39] <dia> hello, ive been searching for an hour or so looking for libGL.a... is this no longer distributed in ubuntu/debian?
[18:40] <Bashing-om> nbusrone: Maybe this will help : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery .
[18:40] <nicomachus> daftykins: yea, lots of randomly corrupted packages. I keep dropping my ssh connection because of a random corrupt packets, etc. It's a cheap HTPC so it was only $60 to get a new mobo, ram, and nic.
[18:40] <Mythikos> I would like to attach those PNG images to their respective desktop files
[18:40] <nicomachus> just take care of all the possibilities at once.
[18:40] <daftykins> nicomachus: *nod*
[18:40] <Amara> nicomachus, check the apt-thourgh-tor package
[18:41] <Amara> nicomachus, https://github.com/diocles/apt-transport-tor
[18:41] <Bashing-om> !info libGL.a
[18:41] <daftykins> Amara: how is obfuscating someones' package source going to make hardware failure even less evident? :)
[18:41] <Bashing-om> !info libGL.a trusty
[18:41] <dia> Its not a package
[18:41] <daftykins> dia: no, the above searches for files.
[18:41] <daftykins> actually, find does, not info :D
[18:41] <dia> Ok
[18:41] <daftykins> Bashing-om: i found nothing :)
[18:42] <Amara> daftykins, It might be magic, or I might understand the question wrong.
[18:42] <dia> so... i need to build a static libGL ;(
[18:42] <daftykins> Amara: given a faulty system, changing the package source can't help :D
[18:43] <nbusrone> Bashing-om : actually my question was , which compression type is much easier to recover.
[18:43] <Bashing-om> daftykins: :) .. I looked elsewhere too .. found nothing on " libGL.a " .
[18:44] <nbusrone> Amara : par(2) ? what do you mean ? splitting them ?
[18:44] <lili_lotus> Hi! I'm first on HexChat. Can you help me& My friend has problem with his Ubuntu 15.04 after updating. System asked if it should replace file bash.bashrc and friend clicked "Yes". After all this actions he reboot his laptop and when he tried to boot ubuntu appeared ubuntu sign and then screen became black. What should he do?
[18:44] <Bashing-om> nbusrone: No experience, can not further advise .
[18:45] <Amara> nbusrone, nah I am saying it looks like parity format, as inteus said, is the format to go. I don't know much about the it though.
[18:46] <coffeeguy> hi i have a 256gb ssd and did a dual boot with ubuntu being installed next to windows. The ubuntu installation partitioned 40gb for it's self. I'd like to ditch windows and give ubuntu the rest of the ssd drive?
[18:46] <daftykins> lili_lotus: we prefer to speak with the people direct, not through a third party.
[18:46] <Amara> coffeeguy, boot live system delete windows, extend ubuntu partition.
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> coffeeguy: wich ssd brand?
[18:47] <coffeeguy> \o/ great thanks Amara :D
[18:47] <coffeeguy> umm corsair
[18:47] <Mythikos> https://i.imgur.com/Zzkzqs4.png I found the .desktop files. I just need the three that are missing their respective icons to associate with the icons I've downloaded for them
[18:47] <lotuspsychje> coffeeguy: ok, doublech if they have recent firmware upgrades aswell before you go
[18:47] <Amara> lotuspsychje, why did you ask that? I am using a samsung one, I may answer some questions
[18:47] <wileee> coffeeguy, If you're uefi be careful to leave what is needed.
[18:48] <lili_lotus> daftykins, he can't join here, because he has no way. He only can text in phone. Is there app on phone?
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> Amara: wich samsung do you have
[18:48] <coffeeguy> ok lotuspsychje and wilee
[18:48] <daftykins> lili_lotus: suggest to boot a live session. yes, andchat on android
[18:48] <lili_lotus> Thanks
[18:49] <Amara> lotuspsychje, samsung 840 evo, using latest firmware. it is good.
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> Amara: nice1+
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> Amara: tweaked fstab?
[18:50] <daftykins> heh the 840 EVO was very bad :) however this is off topic
[18:50] <Amara> daftykins, yeah it was, but the new firmware is ok, no issues, lotuspsychje I may have done that, let me check
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> Amara: can you pastebin me fstab in #ubuntu-discuss?
[18:52] <nbusrone> Bashing-om , Amara : I just take an example ,  if a compression with 1GB and a single picture 8mb was extract using 7zip , it'll take much longer than .zip , like 7zip is extracting entire 1GB compression.What could it be the reason ? When it comes to my mind , if it get corrupted , how much can i recover compare with different compress format ?
[18:52] <Amara> lotuspsychje, btrfs, no tweaks, should I? any suggestions? I'll do that
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> Amara: for btrfs not sure sorry, in my case relatime works fastest in fstab
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | Amara also handy to have
[18:54] <Amara> lotuspsychje, I think I've read one shouldn't be using realtime, you sure, and I've already installed preload, thanks.
[18:55] <ra_> hi
[18:55] <daftykins> lo
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> Amara: yes, for dektop use relatime should be best
[18:56] <daftykins> nbusrone: that's a better question for #linux since it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[18:57] <madjoe> Hi! I'm on Ubuntu 15.04 and have issues with my network scanner - it's not visible by Simple Scan, but I can use it via scangearmp.
[18:57] <daftykins> "my network scanner" = ?
[18:57] <daftykins> ooh as in a flatbed scanner
[18:58] <daftykins> ok ignore me.
[18:58] <madjoe> 'lpstat -a' shows my correct device, but the scanner is not listed within the Simple Scan scanner sources. Any ideas?
[18:58] <inteus> !patience | daftykins
[18:58] <Mister> Hi everybody .I am a new Ubuntu user!
[18:58] <nbusrone> daftykins : so , which compress format would most linux ubuntu use for backups ?
[18:58] <inteus> err
[18:58] <inteus> daftykins: my bad
[18:58] <ra_> hi
[18:58] <madjoe> I've found that sane is not fully supported on 15.04. Could that be a reason?
[18:59] <daftykins> inteus: no problem
[18:59] <ra_> how do i check if my usb is bootable
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> nbusrone  tar is very common
[18:59] <daftykins> ra_: by trying to boot it? :)
[18:59] <ra_> eh
[18:59] <ra_> its not
[18:59] <wileee> madjoe, sane is a bit finicky is all, simplescan is easier
[18:59] <Bashing-om> !manual } Mister
[18:59] <Mister> Need advice to free memory in ubuntu Mate ,live USB (i only got 50 Mo free now after installing package)
[18:59] <Bashing-om> !manual | Mister
[18:59] <Mister> Hi Bashing-om
[19:00] <Mister> Hi ubottu
[19:00] <Mythikos> I figured it out! Sweet. I was close http://bendavis.me/2015/08/23/fix-missing-game-icons-in-steam-for-linux/
[19:00] <ra_> daftykins, i did everything needed...copied yosemite files on usb using transmaconubuntu
[19:00] <Mythikos> Thanks anyways chumps
[19:00] <ra_> daftykins, i did everything needed...copied yosemite files on usb using transmac on ubuntu
[19:00] <madjoe> wileee, I googled everything but I can't see what am I doing wrong here... the scanner is not listed in simplescan, but I can print without any issue.
[19:00] <daftykins> ra_: ah so you're in an ubuntu channel to ask about making a bootable OS X drive...
[19:01] <ra_> using ubuntu
[19:01] <ra_> :)
[19:01] <Bashing-om> Mister: Welcome to 'buntu. Be aware this is a support channel, not general chat here . / General chat -> ' /join ubuntu-offtopic ' .
[19:01] <ra_> daftykins, pls help
[19:01] <daftykins> ra_: i don't think you can with their disk formats.
[19:01] <daftykins> are you dealing with the .dmg ?
[19:01] <daftykins> or the .app
[19:01] <Mister> ok Bashing-om ,
[19:01] <ra_> yea yosemite.dmg i converted to iso using dmg2iso
[19:02] <daftykins> ra_: no it's not going to work
[19:02] <wileee> madjoe, This a multi use device? that may be an issue, we start with actual device hardware info from your computer, if usb plugged run lsusb to find it.
[19:02] <Diplo`> Probando Emacs ERC desde Ubuntu Mate... :D
[19:02] <ra_> although i tried transmac from windows after formating usb to HFS+
[19:02] <ra_> daftykins, :(
[19:02] <ra_> why not
[19:02] <syntroPi> for some reason the new 15.10 release feels very sluggish in a vbox. never seen it running that slow before. also aps constantly crash :-/
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> !es | Diplo`
[19:02] <daftykins> ra_: make up media for mac, using a mac.
[19:02] <ra_> i want logic X andi m poor
[19:02] <nbusrone> daftykins : There are , .tar.Z, .tar.bz2, .tbz2, .tar.lzma .Lets say , having a micro sdcard to compress into , which will be better ?
[19:02] <daftykins> logic X o0
[19:02] <madjoe> wileee, yes, that's true... it's Canon Pixma MX870 - a  multi use device (I use it via WiFi)
[19:03] <daftykins> nbusrone: again, this is not an ubuntu question - take it to #linux
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: have you solved your issue
[19:04] <ra_> daftykins, yea.... i cant buy a mac and Linux DAW are not that good really... i tried but itsmore ofan engineering than an artists toolkit
[19:04] <daftykins> ra_: so you were hoping to install it in virtualbox or similar? :P
[19:04] <daftykins> sorry, but totally off topic.
[19:04] <ra_> daftykins, cubase from win7 was workingtill now ....but dueto some updates my scarlette has started ocrackle
[19:05] <TechnoCrunch> I got ubuntu to boot!
[19:05] <TechnoCrunch> HAHA YES
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> nbusrone  type /j ##linux   (double #)
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> TechnoCrunch: what did fix it?
[19:05] <dudebro> I have a strange problem. Running Ubuntu 14.04 3.13.0-66-generic. My laptop failed to resume from suspend, so I hard reset. Now, USB is broken, the window ("decorator") looks different, and when I try to reboot the computer just remains at the purple ubuntu screen with the multi-dot progress indicator scrolling away. This happens even when I try to boot into older kernels (e.g. 3.13.0-65-generic)
[19:05] <ra_> daftykins, i had snowleopard onVMware but too much latency
[19:05] <TechnoCrunch> nomodeset
[19:05] <daftykins> ra_: uh-huh, sorry can't help you here.
[19:05] <ra_> if its possible i wanted dualboot with linux
[19:05] <daftykins> nope.
[19:06] <TechnoCrunch> Goodbye Mac OS X
[19:06] <ra_> daftykins, how can i get help before i die with this thought ...
[19:06] <ra_> orhow can i get Logic X on linux?
[19:06] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: The x server seemed completely screwed up, so I did a complete clean install of Ubuntu and now ran into a new problem with X -- my Xorg.conf has gone wrong and X -configure will not do anything, it just prints a list of video drivers and says that there are "No devices to configure"
[19:06] <daftykins> ra_: nowhere on freenode, that's for sure.
[19:07] <wileee> madjoe, Cool, not sure beyond googling myself, in this area I would only use what plugs and plays if possible.
[19:07] <ra_> any emulater... :( disheartening .... how do i get to a good DAW ....
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: can you choose from additional drivers list?
[19:07] <nbusrone> daftykins , MonkeyDust : sorry about that, thanks for informing telling
[19:08] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: No, I have no GUI access on either main or recovery.
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: did you try a nomodeset to go fix?
[19:08] <daftykins> islandmonkey: you shouldn't really have a xorg.conf at all :)
[19:08] <Dyzem> Anyone else having problems upgrading to 15.10? My (14.04 LTS) won't detect an upgrade to 15.10, only 15.04.
[19:08] <madjoe> wileee, omg.. I gave Google one more try and it seems to work with xsane now!
[19:08] <ra_> daftykins, i also tried cubase with wine but cant install H2O dongle forsome reason
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> Dyzem: dont mix non-lts with lts please
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> Dyzem  yes, first upgrade to 15.04, then to 15.10 ... ot fresh install 15.10, which is easier and faster
[19:09] <daftykins> ra_: most creative software will be terrible via anything other than what they're supposed to run on
[19:09] <Bashing-om> !upgrade | Dyzem : Yeah a fact of life :
[19:10] <islandmonkey> daftykins: I tried deleting it per a suggestion online, but the problem persisted.
[19:10] <Dyzem> Thanks guys.
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | islandmonkey try this to get in
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> Dyzem  or wait until the next LTS release, in april
[19:10] <daftykins> islandmonkey: i'd need to know more of your hardware setup :)
[19:10] <islandmonkey> daftykins: An optimus setup -- HD 4000 + GT635M
[19:11] <ra_> daftykins, ardour is not doing it for me .... how do i get out of this darkness O LORD ! PLS help .... if escobar was alive
[19:11] <cwage> wileee: yumi doesn't seem to have installed a bootloader either
[19:11] <daftykins> islandmonkey: well it should boot fine with a default 14.04 install using the intel only.
[19:11] <cwage> i feel like i'm losing my mind
[19:11] <daftykins> cwage: i think you're doing something wrong there
[19:12] <daftykins> ra_: i don't have a clue of any software you want to use :) if you're really desperate to VM a mac, then it's easy to find the necessary online... but it's totally 100% off topic for this channel, we help with *ubuntu* here, not macs.
[19:13] <islandmonkey> daftykins: That's kinda the problem -- to an attempt to 'fix' the .conf file, I was doing nvidia-xconfig, but of course, that's not my primary card -.-
[19:13] <wileee> cwage, You doing this in windows?
[19:13] <daftykins> islandmonkey: you shouldn't be running that at all
[19:13] <dym> okay, here i go. i followed this guide to setup sftponly users: http://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_14.04&p=ssh&f=4 created users, a group, dirs and all but on connect i get: https://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pjPc64yw
[19:14] <daftykins> islandmonkey: as i say you shouldn't have a xorg.conf at all :)
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: i think you just have the wrong driver
[19:14] <cwage> wileee: no, ubuntu
[19:14] <dudebro> I have a strange problem. Running Ubuntu 14.04 3.13.0-66-generic. My laptop failed to resume from suspend, so I hard reset. Now, USB is broken, the window ("decorator") looks different, and when I try to reboot the computer just remains at the purple ubuntu screen with the multi-dot progress indicator scrolling away. This happens even when I try to boot into older kernels (e.g. 3.13.0-65-generic)
[19:14] <ra_> daftykins, :( not VM i wanted to make a bootable USB and install it with linux on my laptop.... just tell me if it can be done... :( last hope i have
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: you showed me lshw before and only intel card showed
[19:14] <wileee> cwage, I'm not really up on this in windows I believe it's a bit more problematic, found it to be with multibooting anyway myself.
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> dudebro: check syslog and dmesg for acpi errors mate
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> dudebro: wich system brand is this?
[19:15] <calimero_82> hi guys
[19:15] <daftykins> ra_: no.
[19:15] <dudebro> lotuspsychje, HP
[19:15] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: When I had the old system there was two but now I only find one (the nvidia)
[19:15] <MonkeyDust> dudebro  i have 14.04.3 too, but uname -r shows 3.16.0-50-generic
[19:16] <islandmonkey> (the intel)
[19:16] <dudebro> lotuspsychje, looking in dmesg now
[19:16] <ra_> daftykins, or screw that... just help me learn how to make a bootable USB
[19:16] <calimero_82> i-m in livedvd  with ubuntu in asus laptop with win8.1, can i delete it and install only ubuntu, thanks
[19:16] <dudebro> MonkeyDust, and you're fully updated?
[19:16] <daftykins> ra_: it won't help you with OS X, only Linux ISOs.
[19:16] <ra_> daftykins, using ubuntu ... thats not off topic
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> dudebro  i was telling: tyour kernel seems outdated
[19:16] <daftykins> ra_: you were asking about OS X, so please don't fight the obvious.
[19:16] <MonkeyDust> your*
[19:17] <wileee> cwage, these all should work, something else is wrong. When you say no boot is it you can't just get to the usb at all? No errors?
[19:17] <dudebro> MonkeyDust, I htink it's because I installed with 14.04.1 maybe?
[19:17] <madjoe> wileee, wow! saned works as well now... if anybody is interested - this link just saved my life: http://askubuntu.com/questions/200915/how-to-map-network-scanner
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> calimero_82: yes, disable fastboot and secureboot then install ubuntu single
[19:17] <ra_> daftykins, ok screw mac ... just teach me more on how boot works
[19:17] <daftykins> MonkeyDust: no 3.13 is fine on 14.04, 3.16 is actually out of date in a manner of speaking :) it is the utopic HWE kernel from 14.04.2
[19:17] <daftykins> ra_: sorry, no.
[19:17] <ra_> daftykins, its a shame i still dont know
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> dudebro  try sudo apt full-upgrade
[19:18] <wileee> madjoe, Good job. ;)
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: try the nomodeset and put an active driver
[19:18] <Chicken_Wrap> Hello.
[19:18] <ra_> daftykins, :( why ?
[19:18] <dudebro> MonkeyDust, I'm fully updated
[19:18] <dudebro> MonkeyDust, ran that command, after an "apt-get update" and I'm fully upgraded
[19:19] <dudebro> lotuspsychje, Hey buddy, I did find this in dmesg: [    7.151524] ACPI Warning: 0x0000000000000b00-0x0000000000000b07 SystemIO conflicts with Region \_SB_.PCI0.SMBS.SMB0 1 (20131115/utaddress-251)
[19:19] <dudebro> [    7.151535] ACPI: If an ACPI driver is available for this device, you should use it instead of the native driver
[19:20] <daftykins> dudebro + MonkeyDust: a 14.04 user with a 3.13 kernel is not a problem in the slightest - if they wanted to try for more modern compatibility, they could choose to try the vivid HWE stack - though soon enough a wily HWE should be out with an even newer kernel
[19:20] <lotuspsychje> dudebro: perhaps an acpi firmware error too somewhere
[19:20] <calimero_82> i-ve already done lotuspsychje,  i-m in dvd live now, can i install manually ubuntu as i did like in the old bbios?
[19:20] <cwage> wileee: just no operating system found or no boot disk found, depending on where i try to boot it
[19:20] <cwage> not working in virtualbox, qemu or my actual laptop
[19:20] <wileee> cwage, Fat32?
[19:21] <cwage> yep
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> calimero_82: sure install from live
[19:21] <calimero_82> uefi reads ext4 and grub_
[19:21] <wileee> cwage, what is the usb name?
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> calimero_82: if your sure fastboot, secureboot are off and IDE to AHCI enabled
[19:21] <calimero_82> ?
[19:21] <dudebro> lotuspsychje, hmm if i try lsusb it hangs
[19:21] <cwage> name of what, the model?
[19:21] <wileee> cwage, yeah
[19:21] <dudebro> lotuspsychje, I really don't know much about ACPI or anything so I don't know where to start
[19:21] <cwage> sandisk ultra uSB 3.0
[19:21] <cwage> 32G
[19:22] <gaviria> man where do i get help if not here daftykins ...
[19:22] <daftykins> !alis | gaviria
[19:22] <lotuspsychje> dudebro: try here some acpi boot options mate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[19:23] <wileee> cwage, ah sandisk, those have a firmware issue I believe, I had one. it is in their mbr, https://askubuntu.com/questions/4653/how-do-i-get-rid-of-u3-system-on-my-usb-drive
[19:23] <OerHeks> u3-tools
[19:24] <wileee> mmmm so tasty
[19:24] <cwage> hm
[19:24] <cwage> i'll try. it seems to work/mount fine otherwise and i've put bootable stuff on this before
[19:24] <mcphail> I've just installed Wily and my wireless mouse is far too sensitive. There is no way to adjust sensitivity under the "Mouse" system settings (as per bug 1132063), nor is there an option in dconf-editor. What is the best workaround?
[19:24] <dudebro> lotuspsychje, I'll try a couple of those. I don't understand how or why a failed resume would change this though?
[19:24] <wileee> cwage, I think that is the issue, heh, not one, one would expect. ;)
[19:24] <cwage> u3_partition() failed: Failed reading device property 0x03: Header of property 0x0003 could not be read.
[19:24] <daftykins> cwage: personally i'd write 10MB of zeroes to the start of the drive then recreate from scratch.
[19:24] <OerHeks> !info u3-tool
[19:25] <artag> i think u3 was deprecated.
[19:25] <wileee> cwage, I did find mine to work off and on and gave it to a friend who ran windows.
[19:26] <wileee> smaller version however
[19:26] <artag> there is a final use of u3-tool or the windows version which is to un-u3 the stick
[19:27] <wileee> yeah the windows remove worked better here
[19:27] <islandmonkey> lotuspsychje: Doing nomodeset is doing anything, so I can't access additional drivers or anything
[19:27] <islandmonkey> isn't doing anything*
[19:28] <daftykins> islandmonkey: does your BIOS have any graphics hardware settings? my optimus laptop does not, but some do
[19:28] <artag> it's a pity it didn't get fixed really, the idea of a device with read-only and r/w parts is quite nice, but I think it had some horrible security issues
[19:28] <artag> and you can do with partitions anyway
[19:28] <dym> is anyone fermiliar with sftponly?
[19:28] <islandmonkey> daftykins: I'm not sure how, but I'm locked out of my BIOS, so I can't access it
[19:29] <rypervenche> dym: As in SFTP chroots?
[19:29] <dym> rypervenche: indeed.
[19:29] <rypervenche> dym: Yep. I'm sure others use it as well.
[19:29] <dym> rypervenche: funnyfart
[19:29] <dym> i posted my problem above
[19:29] <dym> since no one reacted, i thought i'd go meta
[19:29] <dym> :)
[19:29] <daftykins> islandmonkey: that is a highly suspicious scenario.
[19:30] <rypervenche> dym: Before doing anything, rerun your ssh commands but add -vvv to it and pastebin the output.
[19:30] <daftykins> islandmonkey: you at least get to a password prompt when trying?
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: passworded bios?
[19:30] <khax> hi DYM
[19:30] <dym> rypervenche: right
[19:31] <islandmonkey> daftykins: Yes, the BIOS has been passworded. My suspicions point towards an Ubuntu upgrade (either 14.04 or 14.10) that screwed with secure boot
[19:31] <cwage> wow
[19:31] <cwage> well i dunno what or why, but i just wiped the first few megs with /dev/zero and started over and it worked
[19:31] <cwage> so daftykins ftw
[19:32] <daftykins> cwage: :) my pleasure
[19:32] <kharnov> hi, is it known that the 64-bit kernel builds are not uploading to the mainline PPA? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.2.4-unstable/
[19:32] <dym> rypervenche: obviously sftp is just iterating through a key exchange with multiple of my private keys without prompting me for a password
[19:32] <kharnov> the log indicates the builds are erroring
[19:33] <calimero_82> lotuspsychje:  ide must be off and ahci on?right?
[19:33] <rypervenche> dym: Describing logs and seeing logs are not the same :)
[19:33] <lotuspsychje> calimero_82: correct
[19:35] <calimero_82> thanks lotuspsychje, but sure i should do what i did as in the laptop bios? uefi doesn-t do problem with grub and ext4?
[19:35] <calimero_82> can i remove all my hd?
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> calimero_82: not sure what your asking right now mate
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> calimero_82: you can install ubuntu fine an on uefi machine
[19:36] <lotuspsychje> calimero_82: no grub or ext4 issues
[19:36] <calimero_82> thanks a lot lotuspsychje
[19:37] <daftykins> islandmonkey: no that would not stop you from gaining access to the BIOS.
[19:38] <dym> rypervenche: https://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=JW4RRvRA
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: maybe the locked bios preventing ubuntu from detecting nvidia card
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> islandmonkey: talk to the ##hardware guys for unlock
[19:38] <islandmonkey> daftykins: How could I access it?
[19:39] <daftykins> islandmonkey: i need you to confirm whether you're saying you reach a password prompt or not
[19:39] <Dro> hi , i have this same problem: http://askubuntu.com/questions/105030/what-is-happening-i-o-error-dev-sda-sector-545868115   ... and it seems that smartmontools is no longer available in Ubuntu...anyone have an idea how to solve it please?
[19:39] <islandmonkey> daftykins: Yes, I'm reaching a password prompt that says 'Enter Password':
[19:40] <daftykins> islandmonkey: ok, well unfortunately i don't feel comfortable assisting there as it could quite easily be a stolen system.
[19:41] <islandmonkey> daftykins: Understood, that's the only problem that's kinda stopping me from getting anything done with it
[19:41] <mkktbkkt> hi
[19:41] <mkktbkkt> can somebody help me?
[19:41] <daftykins> islandmonkey: so besides you taking it apart and removing the CMOS battery...
[19:41] <daftykins> mkktbkkt: just as soon as you explain your problem, really :)
[19:41] <rypervenche> dym: It looks as though you are key restricting your users but don't have a proper key set up for the user or are blocking it in your sshd config file.
[19:41] <wileee> mkktbkkt, Probably if you give us an outline.
[19:42] <mkktbkkt> I used ubuntu 14.04
[19:42] <mkktbkkt> but I started upgrading and then left my computer
[19:42] <dym> rypervenche: actually
[19:42] <dym> rypervenche: as stupid as this may sound, but you could be right :D
[19:42] <Bashing-om> Dro: ?? " Filename: pool/main/s/smartmontools/smartmontools_6.2+svn3841-1.2_amd64.deb " . It is available .
[19:42] <wileee> mkktbkkt, Try to get this all in one post, or it will get lost.
[19:43] <islandmonkey> daftykins: It seems a bit dramatic, especially considering that I did a reset of my Windows 10 system and it had no issues with refinding the NVIDIA card
[19:43] <Dro> Bashing-om, where can i download it ?
[19:43] <mkktbkkt> then it rebooted and now I get black screen after ubuntu logo
[19:43] <mkktbkkt> ok, sorry
[19:44] <wileee> !nomodeset | mkktbkkt try this, you may need a graphic driver update
[19:44] <daftykins> islandmonkey: this is how bad optimus works in Linux land really. up to you though, BIOS options if present would be ruining things here
[19:44] <jayjo_> Is there a way to see all ports that are broadcasting tcp?
[19:45] <daftykins> jayjo_: netstat -tuln ; for open/listening/etc
[19:45] <mkktbkkt> I upgraded to ubuntu 15.04 and now I have black screen after ubuntu logo
[19:45] <Bashing-om> Dro: Sould be as simple as ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade ; sudo apt install smartmontools ' .
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> mkktbkkt: can you press 'esc' and see what errors you getting
[19:45] <mkktbkkt> can I get it from grub console?
[19:46] <mkktbkkt> when should I press esc?
[19:46] <mkktbkkt> or where?
[19:46] <Dro> Bashing-om, not found, it seems that smartmontools is not available in 14.04
[19:46] <wileee> mkktbkkt, Try the esc key to see text, the bots link shows a grub menu nomodeset option
[19:46] <daftykins> mkktbkkt: did you go via 14.10 first, to get to 15.04 from 14.04?
[19:47] <mkktbkkt> from 14.04
[19:47] <jayjo_> daftykins: that gave me a lot of output, is there something that will show what ports are being exposed?
[19:47] <jayjo_> Even internally?
[19:48] <helichopter> hey guys sorry if this doesn’t belong here, but i’m having issues with the boost library. I was trying to install an older version so I removed the current version I had from /usr/include. Now I can’t get boost to install to this directory again and it’s preventing me from compiling some program I downloaded. apt-get doesn’t put boost into /usr/include either. Any idea how to get it functional again?
[19:48] <daftykins> jayjo_: well they'll all be internal, if you're behind a NAT router - you'd have to forward them if they were to be external
[19:48] <islandmonkey> daftykins: Well, a small update, on last reboot I deleted my xorg.conf file, on this start X did not start automatically, so now I have graphics in the form of unity greeter, but it's not going to desktop and it's looping
[19:48] <daftykins> jayjo_: install "pastebinit" then repeat with "netstat -tuln | pastebinit" if you'd like some input. if i knew what you're trying to achieve it might be easier to help
[19:48] <mkktbkkt> press esc in grub-menu?
[19:48] <daftykins> islandmonkey: ah, sounds more like you've used startx at some point and ruined your permissions. does the guest session work?
[19:49] <mkktbkkt> daftykins: 14.04
[19:49] <jayjo_> ok cool, I'll install it. I'm just running a server on my local machine, but I have other things running (like ipython notebooks that host locally) so I just wanted to see the list of ports exposed
[19:49] <Bashing-om> Dro: I am on 14.04, and my last shows it is availabale .. need to look at your sources .. and insure there is no problem accessing the 'main' repo .
[19:49] <daftykins> mkktbkkt: you can't upgrade directly from 14.04 -> 15.04 as far as i understand it.
[19:49] <islandmonkey> daftykins: Nope, another loop
[19:49] <rypervenche> helichopter: How are you trying to install it? How did you remove it?
[19:50] <daftykins> islandmonkey: have you done enough with this machine that a clean install would be a hassle?
[19:50] <mkktbkkt> wileee: when I press esc in grub-menu it opens console
[19:51] <mkktbkkt> I installed 14.04 and I don't remember upgrading before, so I guess it was 14.04
[19:51] <helichopter> rypervenche: So I apt-get remove’d libboost-all-dev and libboost-dev. I also rm’d /usr/include/boost. I then tried apt-get install libboost-all-dev libboost-dev, and I also ran sudo ./bjam in the boost folder I downloaded
[19:51] <TechnoCrunch> any gpu drivers I need to install for a macbook pro?
[19:51] <islandmonkey> daftykins: I'll try one less restart, but that would be the second clean install in the space of four hours, if I really have to do it then I will
[19:51] <islandmonkey> one more*
[19:51] <Zephyr1138> Is it possible to install the latest MATE desktop window manager onto a kubuntu 15.10 updated system via apt-get commands? the 1.1Gb iso try before you install is too big to burn with my CDR drive (700 Mb max).
[19:51] <Dro> Bashing-om, here is my sources.list http://pastebin.com/vYszBGy3
[19:51] <mkktbkkt> daftykins: I installed 14.04 and I don't remember upgrading before, so I guess it was 14.04.
[19:51] <daftykins> islandmonkey: well, if a live session from the installation flash drive comes up fine - it suggests something broke last time along the way
[19:52] <daftykins> islandmonkey: maybe run "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " once and reboot to double check
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> Zephyr1138: you can install iso's with grub also of you like
[19:52] <Bashing-om> Dro: Look'n at your list .
[19:52] <Dro> Bashing-om, thanks
[19:53] <wileee> mkktbkkt, in the bots link look for this info,  'How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)'
[19:53] <RcrdBrt> hello everyone! how can I put this command $(xrandr --output eDP1 --brightness 0.3) in the xorg.conf file so I don't have to enter it everytime I start X?
[19:54] <Bashing-om> Dro: Hummm ..looks good . Are you behind a proxy ? What returns ' ping -c3 ubuntu.com ' .
[19:55] <islandmonkey> daftykins: Done, lets see what happens next
[19:55] <rypervenche> helichopter: Ok, well we would need to see the output of said commands to be able to help with anything.
[19:55] <Dro> Bashing-om, no, i'm not using any proxy, http://pastebin.com/C7Kg6VK3
[19:55] <daftykins> RcrdBrt: i don't think that'd be the place, but you could create a script and have it as a startup application on your user account
[19:56] <dym> rypervenche: you're right. im on AWS and the machine is key restricted. Is there a way to make an exception for sftp users? i tried this without much effect: https://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ca56BUyi
[19:56] <Bashing-om> Dro: No networking issue either . The package is there .. OK. does ' sudo apt update ' run clean ?
[19:58] <Dro> Bashing-om, not really, i have some errors in the end: http://pastebin.com/tsMbghVj
[19:58] <RcrdBrt> daftykins, I mean transforming it into something like "Brightness" "0.3" that is readable by xorg
[19:58] <Dro> its in french, i can translate it if its not clear
[19:58] <helichopter> rypervenche: okay here’s a paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906387/, let me know if i need to paste anything else
[19:59] <rypervenche> dym: Yes, you simply need to put the public key of the user you're trying to log in from into the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file of the user you are trying to connect as.
[19:59] <RcrdBrt> it seems to me that putting that command in PostLogin file of gdm fails to run it (maybe it has something to do with gdm being spawned in a wayland session)
[19:59] <daftykins> RcrdBrt: no idea on that, but the command as it is would run fine as a startup app / script
[19:59] <daftykins> RcrdBrt: or perhaps it runs too early? pass :)
[19:59] <dym> rypervenche: i'd like to have them authenticate by password. which is why im wondering why this group matching in sshd_config wont work
[19:59] <TJ-> Dro "http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release : Les signatures suivantes ne sont pas valables : BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192" means the archive package list is corrupt, and is not trusted, so no packages can be located
[19:59] <RcrdBrt> daftykins, that's not a nice way to do that, of course it works but I wanted a cleaner solution
[19:59] <rypervenche> helichopter: That directory is created by libboost1.54-dev:
[20:00] <rypervenche> helichopter: So you need to reinstall that package. apt-get install --reinstall libboost1.54-dev
[20:00] <Dro> TJ-, and what should i do in this case?
[20:00] <rypervenche> dym: Ah, if you want to do that for all sftp users, you can add a Match Group rule to your sshd config file.
[20:01] <daftykins> RcrdBrt: ok, well until someone with more of an idea replies...
[20:01] <Bashing-om> Dro: Some reservations here as " http://oss.oracle.com/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-amd64/Packages " debian ? .. checking .. not sure at all I want to mess with this .
[20:01] <helichopter> rypervenche: awesome, that looks like it worked
[20:01] <rypervenche> dym: Match Group sftponly\n\tPasswordAuthentication yes
[20:01] <TJ-> Dro: kernel log is showing /dev/sda has serious failings; if that is the Operating System storage, then corruption may be caused by it. In that case I'd stop using the disk and take measures to back-up/clone from it to a new disk immediately
[20:02] <dym> rypervenche: did you even open my link?
[20:02] <dym> i did exactly that
[20:03] <rypervenche> dym: I hadn't, no. I'm at work so helping during my downtime. I missed the link.
[20:04] <freecoder> can anyone tell me what is does the "unstable" appended to some kernels at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ mean? i installed 4.0.9-wily but on some tech websites they say some later version is stable
[20:04] <dym> rypervenche: https://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ca56BUyi
[20:04] <dym> this doesnt work
[20:05] <khax> dym
[20:05] <khax> stop whining
[20:05] <rypervenche> dym: And you're sure you have added your user to said group as well? What do your auth logs say on your server?
[20:05] <dym> rypervenche: positive
[20:06] <LiENUS> just upgraded a system to 15.10 when i boot i just get 5 orange dots inside of purple triangles and it just hangs
[20:06] <LiENUS> if i hit escape at grub and choose the 15.04 kernel it boots fine
[20:06] <LiENUS> how do i go about getting a log of what is causing it to hang?
[20:07] <dym> rypervenche: simply -   Oct 23 20:06:35 host sshd[3885]: Connection closed by xx.xx.xx.xx [preauth]
[20:07] <OerHeks> freecoder, wily comes with 4.2 ..why do you want such old kernel ..
[20:08] <freecoder> OerHeks actually i installed it on LM 17.2
[20:08] <Bashing-om> LiENUS: FGLRX for the graphic's driver ?
[20:08] <LiENUS> Bashing-om, yeah
[20:08] <LiENUS> is that known to be broken in 4.2 on some hardware?
[20:08] <LiENUS> i was actually just disabling it to try rebooting
[20:09] <Bashing-om> LiENUS: No workie to this time in 15.10 . revert to open source .. see the release notes for 15.10 . AMD had not released support for 15.10 to this time .
[20:09] <mkktbkkt> wileee: there said that I should write "nomodeset" in grub configurations. after I did this I pressed Ctrl+X and now I have purple screen
[20:09] <LiENUS> Bashing-om, ah
[20:09] <laiek> hello, I removed a usb drive but the disk utility still shows a process running. also file manager still displays the drive. when I try "power off" it says "Error opening /dev/sdb: Device or resource busy (udisks-error-quark, 0)"
[20:09] <OerHeks> freecoder, oh, mint has its own issues
[20:09] <laiek> how can I end this?
[20:09] <LiENUS> thanks Bashing-om
[20:09] <TJ-> freecoder: "unstable" is the Debian release pocket set in the debian/changelog, which gets suffixed to the version number
[20:10] <Bashing-om> LiENUS: :) My bit to try and help .
[20:10] <TJ-> freecoder: e.g. "linux (4.1.0-040100rc3.201505102036) unstable; urgency=medium"
[20:10] <OerHeks> Source code stable, but kernel will be marked stable once it tested in distro environment with compiled modules for this kernel version.
[20:11] <freecoder> oh! ok. that was helpful. thanks!
[20:11] <subvhome> could someone help me with iptables? I'm trying to perform something simple.. i feel like its simple.. but it just doesn't work for me. I have 2 IP's on 1 interface.. 10.10.10.2 and 10.10.10.3 .. both are public facing, pingable, and can reach my server via ssh on both. I want to be able to hit 10.0.0.3:3001 from the outside world and have it hit 10.0.0.3:3001 on my network. how do i go about doing this?
[20:12] <TJ-> freecoder: The reason for it changing is this: Prior to 4.1.0-rc3 we used the release name, e.g. "vivid" but this caused confusion since these kernels are aimed at testing on ALL releases, so we changed it to "unstable" to make it more generic, but still indicating these are TEST kernels, not SUPPORTed
[20:12] <LiENUS> yeah sure enough that was it thanks
[20:12] <Bashing-om> laiek: CAn you plug the USB drive back in .. and then 'safely remove' from the GUI file manager ??
[20:12] <freecoder> TJ-, and the kernels with release names appended are tested for that release only?
[20:13] <VFDPrim> well just found the first hing i hate about !%.10!!
[20:13] <Bashing-om> LiENUS: Good deal .. We presently have a great relationship with AMD .. We can hope for a resolution soon .
[20:13] <TJ-> freecoder: No, that was what was confusing, they were simply created using that release
[20:13] <VFDPrim> woops 15.10*
[20:13] <wileee> mkktbkkt, I have the feeling you're going to need help for 'beginners' not a big deal, I can't do that is all, am I correct here?
[20:13] <laiek> Bashing-om, no, when I re-plug it in, no change is seen, neither can power off, nor see it appear in file manager
[20:14] <TJ-> freecoder: We'd have someone on e.g.  14.04 and tell them to try the 4.0.0 (vivid) kernel and they'd ask questions about where the 4.0.0 (trusty) kernel packages were
[20:14] <LiENUS> now to track down my smart card stuff again, it wiped support for one of my cards when it upgraded libccid :/
[20:16] <mkktbkkt> wileee: ok. the last thing. if I install ubuntu again without formatting my disks. won't I lose all my files and configurations?
[20:16] <rypervenche> dym: How did you add the public key?
[20:16] <rypervenche> dym: Errr, scratch that.
[20:16] <freecoder> TJ- ah. a kernel package can be installed on any release
[20:16] <wileee> mkktbkkt, I have to step away for your safety, you should be backed up.
[20:17] <dym> rypervenche: :)
[20:17] <Mucha> Hi guys, I'm a former OS X user. In OS X you can make an encrypted disk image within your filesystem. Is there an equivalent in Linux?
[20:17] <TJ-> freecoder: Generally, yes, although mainline kernels won't have the out-of-tree patches the Ubuntu kernels carry, such as the aufs file-system
[20:17] <rypervenche> Mucha: For securely storing data?
[20:17] <OerHeks> Mucha, it is an option during install yes
[20:17] <mkktbkkt> wileee: and how can I make a backup in my situation? btw, I have windows installed, too
[20:18] <LiENUS> OerHeks, he wants a disk image not just an encrypted /home
[20:18] <OerHeks> totally encrypted  or just your user
[20:18] <bazhang> !info cryptkeeper
[20:18] <laiek> and any drive I insert is not recognized currently
[20:18] <TJ-> freecoder: That's all thanks to Linus Torvalds insisting that the Linux kernel *never* breaks userspace - the most recent kernel should still be usable by a binary built in the 1990s
[20:19] <LiENUS> TJ-, hah you must have missed the 2.6 upgrade
[20:19] <Bashing-om> laiek: I would try and identify what process is holding the USB drive open . Anything useful from ' fuser -m /dev/sdc1 ' where "/dev/sdc1" replace with your known ID ( mount or fdisk -lu )  ?
[20:19] <freecoder> cool!
[20:19] <TJ-> LiENUS: I felt the pain :)
[20:19] <LiENUS> 2.4-2.6 had lots of things in userspace breaking, all for good reason
[20:19] <dym> rypervenche: o
[20:20] <dym> I'd be greatful for any input
[20:20] <rypervenche> dym: Ok, so you just changed it so that you should be able to use passwords. Can you provide another -vvv output please?
[20:20] <dym> rypervenche: well no prob!
[20:21] <freecoder> so if i install a mainline kernel, will i stop receiving kernel updates from ubuntu repos? will i have to uninstall mainline kernel to get the one from ubuntu repos?
[20:21] <laiek> Bashing-om, no, I tried them both, but no change happened
[20:22] <rypervenche> freecoder: You will still get them, but the first kernel being used by default will the the latest one.
[20:22] <Bashing-om> laiek: What we want from 'fuser' is the PID .. and with the PID kill that process .
[20:22] <freecoder> thanks! now its all much clear
[20:23] <dym> rypervenche: https://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=QHTgzjTd
[20:23] <TJ-> laiek: what does "udisksctl status" report?
[20:23] <laiek> Bashing-om, when I type "fuser -m /dev/sdb2", no output comes
[20:24] <laiek> TJ- it shows the list of mounted drives including the problematic one
[20:24] <laiek> while it is unplugged
[20:24] <TJ-> laiek: Now do "udisksctl info /dev/sdb"
[20:24] <Mucha> OerHeks rypervenche: I know you can encrypt your whole disk, but what I mean is something else. What I want to have is to have one file within the filesystem that contains files which are encrypted
[20:25] <TJ-> laiek: Typo there, do "udisksctl info --block-device /dev/sdb"
[20:25] <rypervenche> dym: So it looks like it didn't take your configuration change at all. Did you reload/restart sshd after you made those changes to your /etc/ssh/sshd_config file?
[20:25] <dym> rypervenche: very much so
[20:26] <rypervenche> Mucha: Yes, you can do that using a LUKS loop file or using something that encrypts on the fly, like eCryptfs.
[20:26] <laiek> TJ- it gives some details of device and statuses
[20:26] <dym> rypervenche: this is what im wondering really
[20:27] <dym> rypervenche: i also tried to enable password auth globally which didnt seem to affect the daemon
[20:27] <dym> rypervenche: is there a way to determine what config is used?
[20:27] <dym> rypervenche: i mean by all respect it should be /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:27] <dym> but you never know :)
[20:27] <TJ-> laiek: Right, so we know udisks is involved. Now, reboot cleanly without the USB device attached. Log-in. In a terminal do "udisksctl monitor" then once the monitor is running, plug the device in, mount it, then try to unmount/remove it and see what the monitor reports. You may want to pastebin the output for us afterwards
[20:28] <tlt> dym, that placement is default on ubuntu anyways
[20:28] <dym> tlt: im aware of that
[20:28] <rypervenche> dym: Can you paste your /etc/ssh/sshd_config please? Something must be overwriting the option.
[20:28] <tlt> so that file should set your options
[20:28] <Mucha> rypervenche: are there any gui software packages that can create portable encrypted filesystem?
[20:28] <laiek> TJ- the status details are like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906862/
[20:28] <laiek> in case relevant
[20:29] <LiENUS> Mucha, did you try cryptkeeper?
[20:29] <rypervenche> dym: and also paste "id yourusername".
[20:29] <TJ-> dym: "sudo sshd -T" will run an extended test on the config
[20:30] <laiek> TJ- the problem is I have other processes running right now..I was just wondering if I could otherwise solve this without reboot, cause I cannot connect any drive at the moment.
[20:30] <TJ-> laiek: does 'monitor' show the other devices being connected?
[20:31] <dym> rypervenche: http://www.xstd.de/sshd_config.txt
[20:31] <TJ-> laiek: also, have you tried "sudo eject /dev/sdb" ? and have you checked "tail -n 100 /var/log/kern.log" for clues?
[20:31] <dym> TJ-: /etc/ssh/sshd_config line 103: Directive 'UsePAM' is not allowed within a Match block
[20:31] <laiek> TJ- with the command "udisksctl status" I can see other connected devices.
[20:31] <english9090> hi guys i am new in ubuntu i am upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 but audio driver audio not install
[20:32] <Gerowen> Question.  Just upgraded one machine from 15.04 to 15.10, and did a clean install of 15.10 on the other.  I've noticed on the machine where I did a clean install my BASH prompt is colored green, and even carries over when I log into the machine remotely over SSH, which I think is kinda neat.  On the one where I upgraded, that change has not carried over.  How can I delete (as in where are they located) my BASH or Gnome-Terminal settings so that this
[20:32] <Gerowen> new default kicks in?
[20:32] <TJ-> laiek: even freshly connected devices? If so, the underlying system is fine but the desktop environment/GUI is having problems. Might be worth checking ~/.xsession-errors for clues in that case
[20:33] <TJ-> Gerowen: that'll come from the user's ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile and similar shell config files. See "man bash" for which
[20:33] <Gerowen> TJ-: Thanks, :P
[20:34] <TJ-> Gerowen: The prompt is set using the PS1, PS2 variables
[20:34] <nW44b> hi, i just installed ubuntu 15.10 on a computer wich already have windows 7. But i cancelled the uefi choice during the installation, i choose classic bios. Now it does not start windows, just ubuntu. If i reinstall ubuntu with uefi, will it fix the problem ?
[20:34] <laiek> TJ- sudo eject resulted in this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906961/
[20:34] <EriC^^> nW44b: is windows installed in uefi mode?
[20:34] <EriC^^> nW44b: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
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[20:35] <nW44b> EriC^^: i do not really now, but i guess
[20:35] <TJ-> laiek: it looks like "/media/gecaro/nomad" mountpoint was removed, but maybe the mount mtab wasn't updated. Can you show us "pastebinit /proc/mounts"
[20:35] <Mucha> LiENUS: no, i didn't, but i'm looking now for it
[20:36] <english9090> help me please
[20:37] <Gerowen> english9090: Have you checked the "Additional Drivers" dialog?  Go to the System Settings, then click "Software and Updates", then click the "Additional Drivers" tab.
[20:37] <EriC^^> nW44b: paste the link here
[20:37] <rypervenche> dym: Change ChallengeResponseAuthentication no to ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes
[20:38] <nW44b> EriC^^: http://termbin.com/r82m
[20:38] <dym> rypervenche: no change
[20:38] <rypervenche> dym: And/or also verify that your user has read and excute permissions to /data/sftp/username, (run "namei -om /data/sftp/username")
[20:39] <english9090> yes but not showup the realtek driver if i am use a live distro example backtrack or similar after connect to my wifi install realtek audio driver
[20:39] <dym> rypervenche: i thought those directories would have to be owned by root?
[20:40] <nW44b> EriC^^: partition type ms-dos means no uefi right ?
[20:40] <EriC^^> nW44b: yeah
[20:40] <EriC^^> nW44b: try sudo update-grub
[20:40] <english9090> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906700/
[20:40] <tlt> well the efi partition is usually in 'msdos' format itself so not neccesarily
[20:40] <rypervenche> dym: Oh I'm sorry, that's right. It must be root:root. Yes. Hmmm.
[20:40] <nW44b> EriC^^: live session ?
[20:40] <EriC^^> nW44b: no, from ubuntu
[20:40] <dym> rypervenche: the thing is
[20:40] <nW44b> EriC^^: ok thanks
[20:40] <tlt> a win 8.1 efi partition is fat anyways afaik
[20:40] <dym> i dont think its a permission problem
[20:41] <TJ-> nW44b: No, UEFI will boot with an msdos MBR disk label, it doesn't need GPT
[20:41] <dym> rypervenche: the server is refusing auth
[20:41] <nW44b> TJ-: ok, thanks
[20:41] <EriC^^> TJ-: not windows though..
[20:41] <nW44b> EriC^^: seems correct, Windows 7 appeared during the grub-update, i'm trying a reboot
[20:41] <EriC^^> nW44b: ok
[20:42] <TJ-> EriC^^: So the system must not have had UEFI booting
[20:42] <EriC^^> TJ-: yeah
[20:42] <nW44b> do i have to check this in the bios options ?
[20:42] <EriC^^> nW44b: no, reboot and try the windows option from grub, if you dont get grub try holding shift
[20:43] <rypervenche> dym: What user are you logging in as?
[20:43] <TJ-> nW44b: you'd want the CSM enabled (legacy/BIOS/Compatibility Support Module) if it is UEFI firware
[20:43] <guruprasad> I installed Ubuntu 15.10 beta2 on my laptop and upgraded to 15.10 release. During the upgrade upower got updated and when it was getting configured, the battery icon disappeared and never came back even after reboot. Is this a known issue?
[20:43] <dym> rypervenche: it's called web1xtwo who is part of sftponly group
[20:44] <english9090> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906700/ this is the pastebin regard the attempt to install official realtek driver
[20:44] <nW44b> EriC^^: do i have to choose uefi first or legacy first in bios options ? legacy i guess ...
[20:44] <EriC^^> nW44b: yeah legacy
[20:45] <mlvmhn> what is the system specs for ubuntu?
[20:45] <nW44b> EriC^^: it works, thanks a lot !
[20:45] <EriC^^> nW44b: great, no problem!
[20:45] <bazhang> !requirements | mlvmhn
[20:47] <rypervenche> dym: I'm running out of thoughts doing this blindly. If it were me, I would make sure my config file has no problems, then I'd stop the SSH daemon and start it from the foreground to check the output of the daemon and see if there are any problems there, maybe with the config file syntax. /usr/sbin/sshd -f /etc/ssh/sshd_config -t
[20:47] <english9090> how to reinstall driver audio
[20:48] <mlvmhn> my specs is: 3.16 GHz core 2 Duo 64-bit processor, 4 GB RAM. is that too low for running Ubuntu?
[20:48] <rypervenche> dym: Also you can run that last command right now to make sure the file's syntax has no problems.
[20:48] <laiek> TJ- this is the result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12907148/
[20:50] <mlvmhn> my system hangs without no reason, how come?
[20:50] <deepak_> Hi, I have a dual AMD Radeon graphic card. My laptop boots into blank screen. So, I have changed the grub menu options setting radeon.modeset=0 . Now my laptop boots fine but it suddenly stops after over heating.
[20:50] <jason__> mlvmhn, do you have any swap setup?
[20:50] <deepak_> Any solution for this problem ?
[20:51] <mlvmhn> what is that? (new to linux)
[20:51] <deepak_> Sorry I have a laptop with two amd graphics.
[20:51] <deepak_> One discrete and one on board.
[20:51] <mlvmhn> just running standard ubuntu from installation
[20:52] <jason__> mlvmhn, it's like virtual memory in windows. Basically using your hard drive as memory if you use all your RAM.
[20:52] <mlvmhn> ah, well is not 4 GB enough?
[20:53] <jason__> mlvmhn, 4GB may usually be enough, but you may use more than that occasionally. If you have no swap, bad things happen when you use all your memory.
[20:53] <jason__> mlvmhn, you can check by typing swapon -s in a terminal
[20:53] <Dumle29> If I want to take an image of a USB pen before wiping it and putting hirens on it, wouldn't I just do: dd if=/dev/sdx of=~/usb-backup-image.img?
[20:54] <mlvmhn> k, can i see how much RAM i have left?
[20:54] <deepak_> Some one please help me.
[20:54] <rypervenche> dym: What is the group name you're using? Because the guide you showed me shows "sftp_users" and you said you added "sftponly".
[20:54] <english9090> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906700/ if any help me to intall realtek driver audio
[20:55] <jason__> mlvmhn, the "System Monitor" program that's graphical is good for that
[20:56] <mlvmhn> k, is that included in the standard installation?
[20:56] <jason__> mlvmhn, yes
[20:57] <jason__> mlvmhn, anyways, "enough" ram really depends on how you use your computer. I have 24GB of RAM and 6GB of swap and I'm currently using almost all of it with chrome tabs :P
[20:57] <laiek> is a solution possible?
[20:58] <mlvmhn> well i have 10 tabs in Chrome and now i am using 2,1 GB of my RAM
[20:59] <english9090> hello there is possible to have help for installing audio driver
[20:59] <bazhang> english9090, patience
[20:59] <mlvmhn> can i see how much a program is taking?
[20:59] <bazhang> english9090, ask every twenty not every two minutes
[20:59] <jason__> mlvmhn, the system monitor shows that
[20:59] <bazhang> mlvmhn, top in terminal
[21:00] <bazhang> mlvmhn, or install htop
[21:00] <bazhang> !info htop | mlvmhn
[21:00] <rypervenche> jason__: You're doing it wrong...
[21:00] <Bashing-om> laiek: Still under discussion ... hang tight .
[21:00] <jason__> rypervenche, says who?
[21:00] <dym> rypervenche: yeah, i added sftponly in config and group
[21:00] <bazhang> mlvmhn, if its still slow try lubuntu-desktop
[21:01] <dym> rypervenche: this ofc did differ from said guide
[21:01] <mlvmhn> well, seems like Chrome is eating most of my RAM, but still i have no reason for a system hangup?
[21:01] <jason__> mlvmhn, do you have any swap?
[21:01] <bazhang> mlvmhn, a browser wont change, so lighten up the rest
[21:01] <tlt> you can right click the empty space besides a tab in chrome and open the process viewer
[21:01] <tlt> it should show you which tab takes up all the ram if so
[21:02] <mlvmhn> why do i need a swap when i have 2 GB of RAM free?
[21:02] <laiek> Bashing-om, all right, thank you
[21:02] <bazhang> mlvmhn, its not free
[21:02] <jason__> mlvmhn, because your system isn't hung right now.
[21:02] <bazhang> linuxatemyram.com mlvmhn
[21:02] <nullbyte_> you don't need a swap
[21:03] <TJ-> laiek: Thanks. So, that tells us as far as the kernel is concerned, /dev/sdb partitions are not being mounted anywhere
[21:03] <nullbyte_> of many years ago at now...
[21:03] <nullbyte_> with more ram:)
[21:03] <bazhang> so try the lubuntu desktop mlvmhn
[21:03] <mlvmhn> my desktop is much over the system specs for ubuntu
[21:03] <nullbyte_> c00l
[21:03] <TJ-> laiek: I'd suspect gvfsd, the gnome virtual file-system daemon, but as I don't use Gnome/Unity you'd need another expert to diagnose that area
[21:04] <bazhang> mlvmhn, not with multiple browser tabs its not
[21:04] <jason__> mlvmhn, swap is a pretty standard thing. I wouldn't be surprised if those specs are generated assuming you setup a swap partition.
[21:04] <mlvmhn> so my system hangs because of the RAM gone?
[21:04] <english9090> mlvmhn you have installed on chrome adblock for block ads from show up in your browser and drain ram
[21:05] <laiek> TJ- the information on the removed drive is still shown in file manager, and process is shown in gnome disk
[21:05] <laiek> I mean the removal process
[21:05] <jason__> mlvmhn, it's a good possibility. You never actually answered if you have swap or not.
[21:05] <mlvmhn> give me the terminal command again plz ;)
[21:05] <jason__> mlvmhn, swapon -s
[21:06] <TJ-> laiek: Right; which sounds like GVFS daemon/tools are the root cause of the issue. there's some background on them here http://askubuntu.com/questions/61196/why-do-my-gvfs-mounts-not-show-up-under-gvfs-or-run-user-login-gvfs
[21:06] <mlvmhn> well nothing about swap, only basic stuff
[21:07] <jason__> mlvmhn, what do you mean?
[21:07] <tlt> top will also show you whether you have a swap file, and how much of it is utilized
[21:07] <mlvmhn>  how do i see if i have a swap with this terminal command?
[21:07] <tlt> type top in terminal
[21:07] <TJ-> mlvmhn: "cat /proc/swaps"
[21:08] <jason__> mlvmhn, if you have swap it lists where it is and how much space/etc
[21:08] <DrManhattan> I am not having any luck forcing my system to retry network autoconfiguration upon dhcp failure - I am using the following: d-i netcfg/dhcp_failed note d-i netcfg/dhcp_options select Retry network autoconfiguration - What am I doing wrong?
[21:08] <bazhang> DrManhattan, debian?
[21:09] <TJ-> DrManhattan: Not sure - but I do recall some discussion over netcfg/dhcp_failed some time ago now, but not sure if it was ever resolved
[21:09] <DrManhattan> Yes, sorry to ask in here, getting no response whatsoever in the debian channels
[21:09] <mlvmhn> well no swap then as it lists nothing mentioning swap when typing "cat /proc/swaps in Terminal
[21:09] <bazhang> keep in the #debian channel please DrManhattan
[21:09] <rypervenche> dym: Yeah, I'm not sure then. Somehow the daemon is either not reloading the config properly or the config isn't written properly. If your auth log isn't showing anything special, and you don't have any special options that are running from your client, then I'm not sure. I would have to look on the system itself to be able to properly troubleshoot at this point.
[21:09] <DrManhattan> sigh
[21:09] <laiek> TJ- apparently rebooting seems to be the easiest way
[21:10] <DrManhattan> *click*
[21:10] <DrManhattan> thank you for the attempt at help TJ-
[21:10] <TJ-> laiek: user log-out will sometimes clear the issue, since gvfs daemon is a per-user process I think
[21:10] <laiek> TJ- oh yes, thank you
[21:10] <mlvmhn> so less tabs in chrome will preventing my desktop from hanging??
[21:11] <laiek> TJ- I will be back in a minute
[21:11] <english9090> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906700/ the problem is after make ./configure command and the make command install not work
[21:12] <english9090> mlvmhn the ads banner are ram drain please install adblock for block the ads banner
[21:12] <english9090> i am use adblock on firefox
[21:13] <laiek> TJ- I just saw in system monitor a number of running processes starting with gvfs or gvfsd ..would it help to kill them?
[21:13] <english9090> and my firefox now are healthly
[21:13] <TJ-> laiek: I couldn't say... it may make matters worse if they were spawned by the file manager
[21:13] <laiek> or is it possible to detect the right one to kill?
[21:13] <laiek> I see
[21:13] <mlvmhn> already running adblock in Chrome ;)
[21:14] <laiek> ok..will reboot
[21:14] <jason__> mlvmhn, just setup a swapfile
[21:15] <mlvmhn> which distro besides ubuntu are more harmful to my RAM?
[21:16] <bazhang> mlvmhn, just try lubuntu
[21:16] <english9090> mlvmhn you have desktop or laptop like me
[21:16] <bazhang> super lightweight mlvmhn
[21:16] <jason__> mlvmhn, you can try to use less RAM, but some program always has the potential to go apeshit and use a ton of RAM.
[21:17] <mlvmhn> is lubuntu better than kubuntu?
[21:17] <bazhang> mlvmhn, in lightness, sure
[21:18] <mlvmhn> which is the latest version of lubuntu?
[21:18] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop mlvmhn
[21:18] <jason__> You can use lubuntu, but if you open 20 tabs in chrome on lubuntu you're still going to use a shitload of RAM
[21:18] <bazhang> !info lubuntu-desktop
[21:18] <jason__> and you'll still want some swap in case that happens
[21:19] <bazhang> jason__, no cursing here Please
[21:19] <mlvmhn> can i install lubuntu without a dvd, just a terminal command?
[21:19] <bazhang> mlvmhn, I just gave it to you, so yes
[21:19] <english9090> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906700/ the problem is after make ./configure command and the make command install not work
[21:20] <freeman> hi guys i have problem whit my resolution
[21:20] <english9090> help me to install driver realtek audio please
[21:20] <mlvmhn> can i run dual-boot?
[21:20] <jason__> bazhang, really? I've never seen that in the rules.
[21:20] <bazhang> !patience | english9090
[21:21] <bazhang> jason__, yes really
[21:21] <english9090> i am patience
[21:21] <bazhang> english9090, every twenty not two minutes
[21:22] <jason__> bazhang, maybe it should be in the guidelines in the topic then? Or the code of conduct.
[21:22] <english9090> i am request help now after 20min passed
[21:22] <freeman> i use ubuntu 14.04 i have geforce gtx 750 ti and i connect the monitor whit vga converter from dvi
[21:23] <freeman> my monitor is not regonized
[21:24] <lettuce45> I need help with the network manager: the interface is down, how do I turn it on?
[21:24] <The_Letter_M> I know this is off topic of Ubuntu. but is anyone familiar with ISO Standards for Technical Writing?
[21:24] <english9090> freeman you try to install driver monitor
[21:24] <freeman> no
[21:25] <freeman> i never installed
[21:25] <laiek> TJ- it was still the same after logout-login, so I rebooted.
[21:25] <english9090> tell me the monitor vendor (hp fujitsu,asus ect ect) freeman
[21:25] <mcphail> The_Letter_M: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic chat
[21:26] <freeman> my monitor is samsung
[21:26] <freeman> syncmaster 2233
[21:27] <english9090> ok model number freeman
[21:29] <rypervenche> dym: Let me know if you figure it out though. I'm curious to know what it is. Drives me nuts to not be able to log in and figure something like that out.
[21:29] <coffeeguy> hi forgot how to make my 2nd drive rw in terminal
[21:29] <coffeeguy> for user
[21:30] <bazhang> coffeeguy, what fs
[21:30] <coffeeguy> ext4
[21:30] <bazhang> just put in fstab
[21:30] <coffeeguy> actually i can't cd into the rest of the system from terminal
[21:30] <coffeeguy> fstab?
[21:31] <EriC^^> coffeeguy: what do you mean you can't cd?
[21:31] <coffeeguy> change directory sorry mistake
[21:32] <EriC^^> no, i mean what do you mean by that?
[21:32] <coffeeguy> oh it has my username in the prompt with username-desktop:/
[21:32] <coffeeguy> havn't seen that before
[21:33] <coffeeguy> can't change see the connects of /
[21:34] <coffeeguy> trying to make a drive rw i thought the command was chown -R /username
[21:34] <coffeeguy> but i can't see what's in /mnt
[21:36] <lettuce45> help !! after upgrading to 15.10 I cannot see my repos: E: Syntax error in line # deb http://download.jitsi.org/deb/ unstable/ # disabled on upgrade to wily E: Syntax error in line # deb http://download.jitsi.org/deb/ unstable/ # disabled on upgrade to wily E: Cannot read vendors.list file
[21:37] <lettuce45> and then it closes
[21:37] <mikkel> Hey there. I can't log into my user anymore, something about 0 byte left on the root file system
[21:37] <lettuce45> Ignoring invalid record(s) in sources.list file!
[21:37] <mikkel> I think I know why, but I thought I fixed that issue
[21:37] <TJ-> lettuce45: "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> what's jitsi?
[21:37] <TJ-> mikkel: out of space
[21:37] <Zephyr1138> how do I tell update-grub to find a bootable iso image in a separate NTFS formatted partition?
[21:38] <mikkel> I took a dd backup of a 64gb usb pen onto my ssd, which didn't have space, but I stopped that, and removed the file
[21:38] <bazhang> !info jitsi
[21:38] <gremlin_> Hello
[21:38] <mikkel> now I'm on tty1, and I emptied the trash can, but I can't remember how to get back to the main GUI
[21:38] <TJ-> jitsi was once known as SIP communicator
[21:39] <TJ-> mikkel: "df -h" to check the / file-system now isn't at  more-than 95% usage
[21:39] <mikkel> TJ-: will do, thanks :)
[21:39] <lettuce45> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[21:39] <english9090> is here the log after try to install realtek driver audio http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906700/ help me
[21:39] <TJ-> lettuce45: I need the complete URL :)
[21:39] <mikkel> tj: You wouldn't happe to know how to quick irrsi?
[21:39] <lettuce45> TJ-, thats what the command returns
[21:39] <TJ-> mikkel: No; I use weechat :)
[21:39] <mikkel> :P
[21:40] <TJ-> lettuce45: there should be a path after the domain
[21:40] <english9090> is here the log after try to install realtek driver audio http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906700/ help me
[21:40] <lettuce45> indeed, TJ- but the command returns what I pasted and nothing else
[21:40] <TJ-> lettuce45: have you discovered a bug!?!
[21:40] <lettuce45> hope not
[21:40] <Bashing-om> MikeBones: This server also supports irssi . ' /join #irssi ' for support .
[21:41] <mikkel> tj: Okay, it's fine (50%) now how do I get back to the window manager? :P
[21:41] <mikkel> I did ctrl+alt+F1 to get to TTY1
[21:41] <TJ-> lettuce45: try "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:41] <gremlin_> Anyone having issues with Wily not detecting your full ram?
[21:41] <TJ-> mikkel: Ctrl+Alt+F7
[21:42] <mikkel> thanks :)
[21:42] <TJ-> mikkel: Or possibly Ctrl+Alt+F2
[21:42] <gremlin_> seeing 6gb out of 8gb here
[21:42] <mikkel> thanks :)
[21:42] <lettuce45> http://termbin.com/r1os TJ-
[21:42] <gremlin_> not like 2gb in use.. it's just not seeing 2gb.
[21:42] <tragedy_ng> Full 8GB working here, strange
[21:43] <gremlin_> hmm
[21:43] <english9090> is here the log after try to install realtek driver audio http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906700/ help me i am wait
[21:43] <TJ-> lettuce45: OK, looks like per-repo files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ are responsible
[21:44] <TJ-> lettuce45: "for list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list; do echo $list; cat $list; done | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:45] <programmerq> so, I'm trying out the ubuntu 15.10 UEC image from here: https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/wily/current/
[21:45] <lettuce45> http://termbin.com/e1gw
[21:45] <lookcrabs> can someone point me in the right direction in trying to get partman to partition a specific disk? IE if I have a server with 4 disks, 2x 4TB drives and 2x80G SSDs. How can I get partman to partition the SSDs and skip the spinners?
[21:45] <piero> Which files i must preserve to get access to my encrypted home directory after a fresh reinstall of Ubuntu?
[21:45] <programmerq> I have a cloud-init iso with a user-data and meta-data file. this iso works on a 14.04 EEC image. 15.10 seems to ignore it
[21:45] <piero> is it all in the home directory?
[21:46] <Dumle29> TJ-:  Thanks for the help :) Back in ubuntu
[21:46] <lookcrabs> piero: do you have to type in a password when you mount /home? Is it a separate mount?
[21:46] <TJ-> lettuce45: OK, now "hexdump -C /etc/apt/sources.list.d/jitsi.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:46] <piero> lookcrabs, no. Its on ecryptfs
[21:46] <lettuce45> http://termbin.com/2b9m
[21:46] <Dumle29> TJ-: You wouldn't happen to know what I want to do, if I want to dd a bootable CD image to my USB stick? Would it be:
[21:46] <Dumle29> dd if=/path/to/input/image.iso of=/dev/sde
[21:46] <Dumle29> or
[21:46] <Dumle29> dd if=/path/to/input/image.iso of=/dev/sde1
[21:47] <TJ-> piero: the original /home/.ecryptfs/ and all below it
[21:47] <Dumle29> the stick is sde, I've checked
[21:47] <TJ-> Dumle29: the former, sde, the entire device
[21:47] <piero> thank you
[21:47] <Dumle29> thanks :)
[21:47] <english9090> is here the log after try to install realtek driver audio http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906700/ help me i am wait
[21:47] <gremlin_> this is odd. I know my ram is good. So.. shit. Google here I come again.
[21:48] <Mister> Hi everybody i need advice about terminal installation
[21:48] <Dumle29> TJ-: It's giving me and arrow: >
[21:48] <Dumle29> doesn't that mean I entered something wrong?
[21:48] <SchrodingersScat> Dumle29: possibly didn't close a quote, or a loop
[21:49] <Dumle29> sudo dd if=/media/data/hirens.iso of=/dev/sde
[21:49] <Dumle29> that worked. I renamed the file
[21:49] <TJ-> lettuce45: You appear to have some form of problem with the apt binaries that process the sources.list files; I suspected some hidden control-codes in the files causing issues but I don't see any. On the face of it the error you reported "E: Syntax error in line # deb http://download.jitsi.org/deb/ unstable/ # disabled on upgrade to wily" suggests the tools are processing a line that starts with the comment
[21:49] <TJ-> characgter "#"
[21:50] <TJ-> Dumle29: that sounds like hit Enter whilst having not closed a set of quote marks. Try typing a single-quote or double-quote and then Enter
[21:50] <lettuce45> so, a commented line is the root of the problem TJ- ?
[21:50] <Dumle29> yeah I figured it was because there was some ' in the file name
[21:50] <Dumle29> renamed it :)
[21:50] <Dumle29> thanks for the help :)
[21:51] <english9090> is here the log after try to install realtek driver audio http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906700/ help me i am wait
[21:51] <TJ-> lettuce45: It shouldn't, and I still suspect something else in an earlier file has caused this. Give me time to read more thoroughly
[21:52] <TJ-> lettuce45: "hexdump -C /etc/apt/sources.list.d/i2p_packages-i2p-precise.list | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:52] <TJ-> lettuce45: I'm wondering if there are hidden control-codes in the previous file
[21:53] <lettuce45> TJ-, http://termbin.com/afsg
[21:54] <TJ-> lettuce45:  not that either, let's try capturing the exact command output
[21:55] <TJ-> lettuce45: "sudo apt-get update | nc termbin.com 9999"
[21:56] <lettuce45> TJ-, Use netcat.
[21:56] <Mister> what kind of app do what i can see at  "http://termbin.com/afsg"  ? (memory dump?)
[21:56] <lettuce45> wait
[21:56] <TJ-> lettuce45: typo?
[21:57] <lettuce45> http://termbin.com/zs36 TJ-
[21:57] <lettuce45> nope, synaptic was on :D
[21:57] <TJ-> lettuce45: did you see any errors reported there?
[21:58] <english9090> is here the log after try to install realtek driver audio http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906700/ help me please
[21:58] <inteus> !patience | english9090
[21:58] <lookcrabs> Mister: it's just hexdump I believe.
[21:58] <lettuce45> TJ-, where? http://termbin.com/zs36 <<?
[21:59] <TJ-> lettuce45: OK, need to capture them!  "sudo apt-get update |& nc termbin.com 9999" (note the |& that tells the shell to redirect both /dev/stdout and /dev/stderr to /dev/stdin of nc
[21:59] <TJ-> lettuce45: in your terminal. The termbin didn't show any error messages (as it only captured /dev/stdout)
[21:59] <english9090> inetus i am wait every 20 30 1h but no assistance other come on in the chat post a problem and now not receive help i am wait from 1 h
[21:59] <Mister> ok lookcrabs . Can you tell me how could i prevent memory exhaust after some teminal install ?
[21:59] <lettuce45> http://termbin.com/ndlk TJ-
[22:00] <TJ-> english9090: your manual build of the source is failing; it looks like there directory/file structure is incorrect
[22:00] <english9090> ok but i am execute the pdf instruction
[22:00] <TJ-> lettuce45: Grrr - something else using the packaging system ? Close it down, then re-run the command
[22:01] <tragedy_ng> Sorry, also a bit stupid regarding the new radeon drivers.Do I need to do something special, like removing the "radeon" in favour of the new amdgpu? I did some work but have to manually modprobe it every boot which is not very nice. The xorg config in usr/share appears to be correct
[22:01] <lettuce45> TJ-, will take a while, software upgrader is downloading a new kernel
[22:01] <english9090> Download Driver
[22:01] <english9090> If your Linux system Playback is no sound output or Recording is failed.
[22:01] <english9090> Please download workarround driver from Realtek website.
[22:01] <english9090> http://www.realtek.com/
[22:01] <english9090> 2. Unzip the driver source code
[22:01] <english9090> tar jxvpf LinuxPkg_x.xxrcxx.tar.bz2
[22:01] <english9090> tar jxvpf alsa-driver-1.0.xx.tar.bz2
[22:02] <inteus> !pastebin | english9090
[22:02] <somebody> hello to all
[22:02] <TJ-> english9090: what you show in that pastebin looks dangerous: as in "rm -f /include/sound" ... although we don't have such a directory in the root file-system, something is very wrong if that source package Makefile is trying to do things from the root of the file-system
[22:02] <Mister>  lookcrabs : Can you help me a little? (and sorry for my poor English language! Not my pimary language)
[22:03] <TJ-> lettuce45: OK, let me know when you have it. I may be elsewhere and take a while to respond so feel free to get someone else to look at it
[22:04] <lettuce45> 2. 3 minutes
[22:04] <SchrodingersScat> !fr | Mister, also easier to ask your question to the channel and hope that someone who is knowledgeable steps up to help.
[22:04] <english9090> the problem is i am run usb live with 15.04 ubu after install on hdd sys say update to 15.10 download 780mb of data and after reboot view  15.04  cdrom update on software update
[22:04] <english9090> how to install 15.10 ubu from iso without lost file
[22:05] <Mister> ubottu : i don't want to distub anybody. But i need advice to prevent low available memory if i install a big package via terminal (338 Mo)
[22:06] <SchrodingersScat> Mister: low hdd memory?
[22:06] <Mister> no SchrodingersScat  : i use a live usb ubuntu mate (8Go)
[22:06] <TJ-> english9090: When Ubuntu is originally installed from a Live ISO on DVD, the /etc/apt/sources.list has an entry in it to enable installation of other packages from the DVD rather than going online. It *sounds* to me as if you may be seeing that and it confusing you, since the system has done a release-upgrade to the next release (15.10), but that original entry still mentions the previous release (15.04).
[22:07] <TJ-> english9090: To check which release is running do "cat /etc/issue" or "lsb_release -a" and "uname -a"
[22:08] <english9090> ok
[22:08] <english9090> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12908143/
[22:09] <Mister> no SchrodingersScat  : i need at least 200 Mo free after install (sudo apt-get install package)
[22:09] <TJ-> english9090: OK, the system is running 15.10. You can use Software Sources to Delete the 15.04 CD/DVD entry
[22:09] <english9090> ah ok
[22:10] <english9090> wait
[22:10] <DrManhattan> How do I check if my partitions are properly aligned for a 4k sector drive with parted?
[22:10] <SchrodingersScat> Mister: not sure what you can do, other than cleaning up unneeded files. sudo apt-get clean may clear up something? ncdu is handy for visualizing disk usage as well.
[22:11] <Mister> ok SchrodingersScat i test sudo apt-get clean
[22:12] <english9090> tj system found base component update
[22:14] <TJ-> DrManhattan: "parted /dev/sdX align-check <type> <partition>" I think
[22:15] <english9090> i am reboot for update installk
[22:17] <Mister>  SchrodingersScat : can i do "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop" to gain more memory
[22:19] <SchrodingersScat> Mister: and you're doing this to a liveusb?  if so, would probably be much easier to start from scratch with a lubuntu image. otherwise afaik it would keep everything in the persistence memory that you added.
[22:20] <Dylan__> I've got some overscan on a second monitor that I'm trying to get rid of. I'm wondering if it's the graphics card. I have a Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250. How would I go about correcting overscan?
[22:20] <lookcrabs> For figuring out which disks are the SSDs during preseed I think I have it almost figured out. I can use partman/early_command to run a barebones shell script in the installer. I am just wondering if this is the preferred method and if anyone else has a better way. I am trying to use foreman to install some hosts on ssds but the SSDs may not always be /dev/sda and /dev/sdb. Can anyone point me in the right direction for setting this up?
[22:22] <fletcher_> Hello, I read here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiOSBoot about using grub legacy for your boot partition and they recommend using ubuntu 9.04 to achieve this. However it seems like ubuntu 9.04 does not detect my usb on my ~1 year old laptop... So it does not find the install media. Any suggestions?
[22:23] <wileee> fletcher_, relevant when 9.04 was supported is all, why legacy?
[22:24] <english9090> tj i am here after update in the update log i am view error dkms
[22:24] <tragedy_ng> Dylan__ xrandr --output $output-device --set underscan off  ; if i remember correctly but it would be nice to let that command double check :)
[22:24] <english9090> freeman i am here
[22:24] <Zephyr1138> how do I set up grub.cfg to find a bootable iso image in a separate NTFS formatted partition?
[22:24] <lettuce45> hi upgraded to 15.10, the panel0, the horizontal panel on top, well, it cannot keep the clock and keyboard indicators to the right, where they were before the upgrade. help please
[22:24] <Dylan__> tragedy: Trying it out now.
[22:25] <Dylan__> tragedy: how do I label/figure out the output device?
[22:25] <wileee> Zephyr1138, kinda the long way around maybe? How about context and end goals?
[22:25] <fletcher_> wileee: according to the page it's easier to configure legacy for chainloading
[22:25] <lettuce45> TJ-, ? lust for helping me again?
[22:26] <TJ-> lettuce45: sure, pick up where we left off
[22:26] <tragedy_ng> Uuuh, I used Plasma5 for that, there in the display settings, wait a sec
[22:26] <TJ-> lettuce45:  "sudo apt-get update |& nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:26] <tragedy_ng> xrandr without any parameters seems to work
[22:27] <wileee> fletcher_, Not been edited since, MultiOSBoot (last edited 2011-04-10 19:57:46 , Not exactly an accurate read is all.
[22:27] <kostkon> fletcher_, 9.04 is not gonna detect your hardware properly because it's too old; and unsupported..
[22:28] <fletcher_> wileee: So you'd recommend doing it with grub2 instead?
[22:28] <TJ-> fletcher_: chainloader in GRUB v2 works fune
[22:28] <luca_79> ciao e tutti
[22:28] <Dylan__> tragedy: Hmm... HDMI-0 seems to be what I'm looking at, but using it with the command you gave me doesn't change anything.
[22:28] <fletcher_> I'll give it a go then
[22:28] <lettuce45> wait, apparently i have to restart... again
[22:29] <fletcher_> kostkon: I suspected as much
[22:29] <kostkon> fletcher_, go with 14.04
[22:29] <wileee> fletcher_, chain loading when and where, a multiboot?
[22:29] <TLF> hello. I upgraded to wily but i can't install some packages because it depends on libmozjs-24-0 but there is only libmozjs-24-0v5. However it says libmozjs-24-0v5 replaces libmozjs-24-0. Are there any chances? Thanks
[22:29] <fletcher_> wileee: My intention is two linux installations that share a home and then a windows on the side
[22:29] <tragedy_ng> Hmm strange, as I said, I use Plasma5 here which does quite a bit of magic, especially with sisplay settings
[22:29] <wileee> fletcher_, grub2 does that automatically yeah.
[22:30] <Dylan__> Any other ideas?
[22:30] <english9090> TJ-
[22:30] <english9090> i am reboot after sys base immage update but not receive driver audio
[22:30] <Dylan__> It might be a problem with the TV itself, but I'm hoping I can fix it through the graphics card.
[22:30] <tragedy_ng> Do you use the fglrx driver? Probably not since you are in this chat
[22:30] <TJ-> Dylan__: "xrandr --output HFMI-0 --prop" should list the available properties for that output
[22:30] <TJ-> Dylan__: well, it will if you correct my typos!
[22:31] <Dylan__> heh
[22:31] <Dylan__> TJ: it didn't list anything.
[22:31] <Dylan__> Was there more than one typo?
[22:31] <Dylan__> <---- Linux near-incompetent, here.
[22:32] <wileee> muhaha get them
[22:32] <Blue1> how can I help Dylan__
[22:32] <Dylan__> I basically get by by getting guys like you to tell me exactly what to put into the terminal. :P
[22:32] <TJ-> Dylan__: my fault, got too specific: "xrandr --prop"
[22:32] <backbox> what the hell
[22:32] <Zephyr1138> wileee, I have an iso image of the latest ubuntu-mate-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso sitting at the root level of my parion where my Windows 7 lives.
[22:33] <Dylan__> Blue: Dealing with some overscan on my second monitor.
[22:33] <wileee> Zephyr1138, any linux installed now and grub running?
[22:33] <Blue1> Dylan__: how have you tried to adjust the over scan?
[22:33] <Dylan__> TJ: Okay, that worked. I have a bunch of paramenters, some of which are underscan vborder, underscan hborder, and underscan. Think I should do something to them?
[22:34] <Dylan__> Blue: I haven't how can I do that?
[22:34] <Zephyr1138> wileee, yes I have ubuntu 15.10 installed on another hd partition
[22:34] <Blue1> Dylan__: in the system settings/display and monitor settings
[22:35] <Dylan__> Fo' reals? I didn't see it ther ebfore. Checking again...
[22:35] <Zephyr1138> wileee, I want to overwrite that previously installed ubuntu 15.10 partition with what the live iso image provides.
[22:35] <TJ-> Dylan__: That tells you which properties the --set option can take/use
[22:35] <wileee> Zephyr1138, you can do an iso boot from it with grub, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot  install grml and put the iso where told
[22:36] <Dylan__> Blue: Yea, I don't see anything here for overscan.
[22:36] <wileee> Zephyr1138, Ah, overwrite, no disks or usb's?
[22:36] <Dylan__> TJ: So... should I adjust the rangers on the horizontal and vertical underscans?
[22:37] <Zephyr1138> wileee, yes... but I need to preserve my windows partition.
[22:37] <wileee> Zephyr1138, Not sure your plan makes sense, use a usb or dvd.
[22:38] <TJ-> Dylan__: if the output supports more modes, might be worth trying others than the default
[22:38] <Zephyr1138> wileee, I my system doesn't have a DVD drive. I could try the ole mounted usb trick.
[22:39] <wileee> Zephyr1138, Yeah use a usb that is the best, gonna get coffee here now, hope you get it done. ;)
[22:39] <Dylan__> TJ: How do I figure out if it supports more modes?
[22:39] <burzos> My laptop has a built in bluetooth and I also have a bluetooth dongle; how can I go about disabling one of these devices?
[22:39] <Zephyr1138> wileee, I'll give it a try.  Thanks for the advice.
[22:40] <TJ-> Zephyr1138: why not run up a guest virtual machine in windows pointed at the ISO file, and with the target hard drive (containing 15.10) also attached?
[22:40] <wileee> Zephyr1138, My pleasure.
[22:40] <TJ-> Dylan__: "xrandr -q" should list all available modes for each output
[22:40] <Blue1> Dylan__: yes, that is usually how you correct an overscan issue.  Do not exceed the recommended settings for the monitor, as this may cause the monitor to perm. malfunction.  IOW be careful.
[22:41] <Dylan__> Ah.... there we go. I didn't understand what you meant by modes.
[22:41] <english9090> TJ-
[22:41] <english9090> i am try repair option from usb
[22:41] <Blue1> :-)  off for dinner
[22:41] <TJ-> Dylan__: those modes come from the monitor's own EDID information, so should be correct
[22:41] <Zephyr1138> TJ-, good idea... I'll try that too.
[22:41] <Dylan__> TJ: How do I change the modes via the terminal? In the Settings--> Display, I'monly getting two options. From the terminal I'm getting 5.
[22:42] <arch> hey
[22:42] <apollo_> hi all
[22:43] <TJ-> Dylan__: "man xrandr" and press Capital G to Goto End of file; look at the examples "xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode  XXXXX" where XXXX is listed for that output from the -q list
[22:43] <TJ-> Dylan__: press 'q' to leave the man-page
[22:43] <nuno_nunes> http://repogen.simplylinux.ch to generate repos for ubuntu
[22:43] <nuno_nunes> :)
[22:44] <Guest52653> django
[22:46] <jesuslovesyouthi> does anyone know if firefox updated the flash player for linux? Has that changed from a few mos ago?
[22:46] <Dylan__> Ungh... this is getting complicated. so somethinglike this?
[22:46] <Dylan__> xrandr  --fb  1600x768  --output  VGA  --mode 1024x768 --panning
[22:46] <Dylan__>               1600x0
[22:47] <Dylan__> And change VGA to HDMI-0 and the mode to whatever I'm changing it to?
[22:48] <dgh123> Hello everyone
[22:49] <dgh123> How are you all doing?
[22:50] <TJ-> Dylan__: much simpler; e.g.  "xrandr --output HDMI-0 --mode 1920x1080"
[22:50] <dgh123> If anyone is willing, I could use some help.
[22:50] <Dylan__> heh
[22:50] <johnny_linux> jesuslovesyouthi,  flash has patched about a week ago
[22:50] <kostkon> jesuslovesyouthi, last (security) update (of 11.2) was a few days ago
[22:51] <TJ-> Dylan__: if you have several modes with the same resolution, but different refresh rates, add the "--rate XX"
[22:51] <Bashing-om> !details | dgh123
[22:51] <dgh123> Thank you
[22:51] <dgh123> Sure thing
[22:51] <lettuce45> TJ-, im back again :D http://termbin.com/42zr
[22:51] <jesuslovesyouthi> johnny_linux: kostkon: do I need to do anything special to get the update?
[22:52] <dgh123> My issue is that I am attempting to get a working installation on an iMac G5 (powerpc64 architecture).
[22:52] <TJ-> lettuce45: did that come from using the |& pipe in front of 'nc' ?
[22:52] <johnny_linux> just make sure fifefox is updated
[22:52] <kostkon> jesuslovesyouthi, open your updater, check for updates
[22:52] <jesuslovesyouthi> kostkon: right on
[22:52] <jesuslovesyouthi> thx
[22:52] <dgh123> They are some lousy display issues.
[22:52] <lettuce45> TJ-, sudo apt-get update |& nc termbin.com 9999
[22:52] <lettuce45> is the command I use
[22:52] <lettuce45> d
[22:53] <dgh123> I have attempted many solutions including tweaking xorg.conf and some display settings with no success.
[22:53] <Dylan__> TJ: Oof, there's only one that doesn't totally screw it up. 1280x720, which is the one I was already on.
[22:53] <dgh123> I have gotten some kernel panics in the process.
[22:53] <TJ-> lettuce45: So, in that case it looks like the files under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ are no longer being processed
[22:53] <TJ-> Dylan__: not good :(
[22:54] <Dylan__> Balls.
[22:54] <Dylan__> TJ: So can I screw with these individual underscan parameters? Is that even a good idea?
[22:54] <dgh123> My display driver is nouveau. It has reported the error message "DDC responded, but no EDID for TV-1".
[22:54] <dgh123> All help will be greatly appreciated
[22:55] <TJ-> Dylan__: I've only ever done customised modelines based on known information; in theory adjusting them slowly and carefully to avoid asking the monitor to do anything too outlandish, should be safe
[22:56] <Dylan__> What is the command(s) to adjust them?
[22:56] <TJ-> dgh123: That means the device on TV-1 output didn't return an Extended Display Information Descriptor (EDID) which would tell the GPU want modes the monitor can safely use.
[22:57] <TJ-> Dylan__: I think... "xrandr --output --set <property-name> <value>"
[22:57] <dgh123> I see
[22:57] <TJ-> Dylan__: check in "man xrandr" for the --set option
[22:57] <dgh123> I have been attempting to use Ignore parameters to port it through to DVI or VGA.
[22:58] <lettuce45> TJ-, if I nuke that file, will xubuntu create a new one?
[22:58] <TJ-> lettuce45: Err, no, not a good idea. The files looked to be fine; 1 issue seems to be that apt is no longer accessing /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ files. Isn't this the PC that reported I/O errors on sda?
[22:58] <apollo_> why steam client dont work in my ubuntu 15.10 ? (
[22:58] <english9090> tj /home/italian91/Scaricati/Rt-Linux-HDaudio-5.18/alsa-driver-RTv5.18/alsa how to install driver audio found in this folder
[22:59] <lettuce45> TJ-, I dont know what sda is
[22:59] <TJ-> lettuce45: I may have you mixed up with another user!
[22:59] <lettuce45> could be :D
[23:00] <dgh123> sda is the identifier for the first device. sdaX where X is the partition number of that device
[23:00] <TJ-> english9090: I do not know; installing 3rd party source-code packages can be difficult because the documentation often leaves out key requirements
[23:00] <Dylan__> TJ: So... let's see here. If I wanted to change underscan hborder, which has two paramenters (0,128), would I do something like this: xrandr --set hborder(1,127)
[23:00] <dgh123> lettuce45
[23:00] <Dylan__> ?
[23:00] <dgh123> lettuce45: I hope that helps
[23:00] <lettuce45> no no partitions where involved in my case
[23:00] <english9090> tj how install via terminal
[23:00] <TJ-> lettuce45: I thought we started off with a question about I/O errors on /dev/sda, and then moved on to why smartmontools wouldn't install
[23:01] <TJ-> english9090: I don't know, each source-code package is different. You may not even need that, it may be support is already in the kernel and the system simply hasn't configure the sound output correctly
[23:02] <lettuce45> no, no partition troubles with me :D
[23:02] <english9090> how to install alsa from terminal
[23:02] <TJ-> lettuce45: I must be dreaming! Must be time to head off to bed!
[23:02] <dgh123> Anyone have any ideas?
[23:02] <dgh123> english9090: BTW, are you trying to install from source or aptitude?
[23:03] <lettuce45> good night then :) hope to see you again
[23:03] <dgh123> GN Lettuce
[23:03] <lettuce45> err
[23:03] <Bashing-om> apollo_: FGLRX graphic's driver ?
[23:03] <lettuce45> that was for T
[23:03] <lettuce45> that was for TJ-
[23:03] <TJ-> english9090: my advice to you is to stop trying to install the driver code from source UNTIL you've found an ALSA/sound expert who can check the current Ubuntu 15.10 install to determine if the support is there already, but just not configured correctly
[23:03] <english9090> lattuce insert sleep mode
[23:03] <dgh123> lettuce45 Sure
[23:03]  * lettuce45 inserts sleep mode and sleeps
[23:04] <TJ-> lettuce45: right now, if "apt-get update" doesn't report errors... assume it fixed itself unless something else goes wrong!
[23:04] <dgh123> Is the display issue that I am having having to do with Ubuntu 14.04 or software?
[23:04] <english9090> dgh i am try with aptitude but not work
[23:04] <dgh123> Should I try 15.10?
[23:04] <dgh123> Sure thinig
[23:04] <dgh123> english9090: What errors are you getting?
[23:04] <lettuce45> dgh123, did you lose your minimize and maximize buttons on the upper bar of every application too?
[23:05] <dgh123> lettuce45: It won't log in
[23:05] <dgh123> lettuce45: As in loops back to start up screen and won't startx
[23:05] <TJ-> dgh123: as far as I know, TV* outputs cannot get EDID info from the monitor (assuming TV is an alias for analogue composite/RGB outputs)
[23:05] <dgh123> lettuce45: from backend
[23:05] <lettuce45> not my issue , sorry
[23:05] <english9090> dgh123 from official driver http://paste.ubuntu.com/12906700/ from normal way say already installed
[23:05] <dgh123> TJ: I tried an xorg.conf in an attempt to port over to VGA or DVI
[23:06] <dgh123> english9090: I'll check it out
[23:07] <TJ-> dgh123: I'd pay close attention to the kernel panics reported in /var/log/kern.log ... generally, finding out matchin bug reports for those should lead you to some explanation, and possibly a workaround
[23:07] <dgh123> TJ: will do
[23:07] <dgh123> TJ: will boot it up
[23:07] <dgh123> english9090: Is your kernel up to date?
[23:08] <dgh123> english9090: If so, stable or unstable?
[23:08] <english9090> yes upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10
[23:08] <dgh123> english9090: Does pulseaudio work?
[23:08] <english9090> i am try
[23:08] <dgh123> english9090: Sure thing
[23:09] <TJ-> dgh123: backlog of the issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12908924/
[23:09] <english9090> not work
[23:09] <english9090> thnks tj
[23:09] <TJ-> dgh123: lines 50-51 ... and we checked, the running system was 15.10
[23:09] <english9090> thnks community for help a newbie
[23:09] <dgh123> TJ: Sure thing
[23:10] <dgh123> english9090: Sure thing
[23:10] <dgh123> english9090: I took spanish 1 and 2 so I was able to understand the italian error messages.
[23:10] <english9090> ok
[23:10] <johnny_linux>   scuza
[23:11] <TJ-> english9090: I'd check /var/log/dmesg to ensure the audio device was found, and then check its' the default device, and use 'aplay -l' and 'aplay -L' to ensure the device and its sinks/sources are present
[23:11] <english9090> i am try but not work
[23:12] <TJ-> english9090: "dmesg | pastebinit"
[23:12] <english9090> ok
[23:12] <english9090> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12908985/
[23:13] <khax> lol
[23:13] <RepThis1> hey guys, i ran this command: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and was wonder on the "$(uname -r) part. Does the $ sign store the stout from arguments inside the () , then erase any traces of it cause its prob stored temp in memory?
[23:13] <english9090> stop flodd
[23:14] <english9090> [Cindy_not_away`P]
[23:14] <english9090> bann
[23:14] <OerHeks> !ops
[23:14] <TJ-> english9090: line 978: "   14.100682] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: autoconfig for ALC269VB: line_outs=1 (0x14/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0) type:speaker"
[23:14] <english9090> ok
[23:14] <english9090> is start lag
[23:15] <english9090> the chat
[23:15] <TJ-> english9090: as I suspected; the kernel driver is there, so it is very likely the problem is just configuration
[23:15] <english9090> ah ok
[23:15] <english9090> is possible to bann flodder
[23:15] <TJ-> english9090: "pastebinit <( aplay -l; aplay -L )"
[23:15] <dgh123> english9090: Could you pastebin the output of lsmod | grep alsa?
[23:15] <TJ-> english9090: being done as we speak
[23:16] <english9090> ok
[23:16] <dgh123> english9090: Maybe there might be something in there
[23:16] <english9090> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12909050/
[23:16] <Bashing-om> RepThis1: Not at all . the construct " $(uname -r) " retrieves the current booting kernel version, and expands into the command with the proper kernnel version .
[23:17] <dgh123> english9090: Bingo. Your card is an hda intel. Now can you pastebin lsmod | grep HDA\ Intel?
[23:17] <TJ-> english9090: all that looks very good, too. Have you checked the outputs aren't muted?
[23:18] <TJ-> dgh123: line 978 of the dmesg; "snd_hda_codec_realtek"
[23:18] <english9090> ok
[23:18] <dgh123> english9090: Try amixer in the command line and see if they are muted
[23:18] <dgh123> TJ: Thanks TJ
[23:19] <english9090> i am install alsamixer from center software
[23:19] <dgh123> TJ: could english's drivers be conflicting?
[23:19] <TJ-> english9090: dgh123 As well as auto-mute, I wonder if output in the GUI control panel has been set to the HDMI device?
[23:19] <TJ-> dgh123: everything there looks fine so far
[23:19] <dgh123> TJ: Sure thing
[23:20] <dgh123> TJ: What about that realtek module versus an HDA_Intel card?
[23:20] <english9090> my laptop in windows view disabled hdmi audio port
[23:20] <ospiterandom> hi, I just installed ubuntu 15.10 x64 and tried vmware workstation 12 but it's not starting.. is anybody using it?
[23:20] <TJ-> english9090: I don't use Gnome/Unity though so can't guide you in exploring the GUI sound configuration
[23:20] <dgh123> english9090: Try modprobe hda_intel
[23:20] <daftykins> ospiterandom: run their config script and see if it error'd generating modules / loading them at boot - perhaps you have to install build-essential and try again
[23:21] <ospiterandom> daftykins: modules compiled fine, it seems like the gui can't start for some reason
[23:21] <english9090> FATAL: Module hda_intel not found.
[23:21] <dgh123> english9090: Okay, how about snd_intel?
[23:22] <english9090> i am wait output
[23:22] <dgh123> english9090: Let's see if the correct module is loaded
[23:22] <TJ-> dgh123: the module is loaded fine, and ALSA has all the outputs. This isn't a driver issue (unless a pin-ctrl remap required), this is about the user's output device configuration
[23:22] <daftykins> ospiterandom: run it in a terminal and see if it spits errors - but really it's proprietary software so they get *paid* to help you use it
[23:22] <english9090> root@pc:/home/enzo# pastebinit| lsmod | grep HDA\ Intel
[23:22] <english9090> remain clear
[23:22] <dgh123> english9090: Sure thing
[23:23] <ospiterandom> daftykins: yes... in the terminal it does not output anything
[23:23] <english9090> lsmod no autoput
[23:23] <english9090> output
[23:24] <dgh123> english9090: Do you have any sound outputs in your guis?
[23:24] <daftykins> ospiterandom: mmm, time to give them a call :)
[23:24] <english9090> nope
[23:24] <dgh123> english9090: Just dummies?
[23:24] <dgh123> english9090: Okay.
[23:24] <ospiterandom> daftykins:  :) maybe tomorrow morning XD
[23:24] <english9090> now 0 driver audio
[23:24] <TJ-> english9090: try "speaker-test -D front -c 2 -t sine"
[23:25] <english9090> before this problem dummies
[23:25] <dgh123> english9090: have you tried amixer?
[23:25] <daftykins> ospiterandom: one other thought - though not 100% advisable, is just trying running the GUI portion with gksudo as a test
[23:25] <ospiterandom> daftykins: ah... it deserves a try... let's see
[23:26] <english9090> guys
[23:26] <english9090> i am hear the screenshot sound
[23:26] <dgh123> english9090: Very good.
[23:26] <english9090> is very low
[23:26] <dgh123> english9090: check the levels in amixer and see what you come up with.
[23:27] <english9090> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12909164/ first second http://paste.ubuntu.com/12909180/
[23:27] <TJ-> english9090: try "speaker-test -D front -c 2 -t sine" and then in a SECOND terminal use 'alsmixer' to adjust volumes/boost
[23:27] <dgh123> english9090: If you have trouble finding it, open up terminal and try amixer.
[23:28] <dgh123> english9090: Resource in use?
[23:28] <dgh123> english9090: Hmmm...
[23:28] <english9090> wait
[23:28] <english9090> i am view mixer
[23:28] <english9090> with realtek bingo
[23:29] <english9090> bingo automuted driver
[23:29] <TJ-> english9090: I'm sure I said that a few hours ago :D
[23:30] <ospiterandom> daftykins: nothing gksu unsuccessfull... I will wait tomorrow
[23:30] <dgh123> english9090: Try speaker-test again when you are ready.
[23:30] <english9090> in te mixer i am put in red level and now i am hear the chat sound
[23:30] <daftykins> ospiterandom: d'aww, okie dokie
[23:30] <dgh123> english9090: Awesome.
[23:30] <english9090> but in controll pannell not view
[23:30] <TJ-> english9090: now delete that driver source-code before you accidentally install it and break everything!
[23:30] <english9090> audio driver
[23:31] <TJ-> english9090: OK, so now you need to ensure the pulseaudio daemon is started and the GUI is communicating with it
[23:31] <english9090> ok deleted boss
[23:31] <english9090> ok
[23:31] <dgh123> english9090: service start pulseaudio
[23:31] <dgh123> english9090: If not already
[23:32] <english9090> in the mixer i am put on level red mic and speaker audio is right or not
[23:32] <TJ-> english9090: "pgrep pulseaudio"
[23:33] <english9090> pulseaudio: unrecognized servic
[23:34] <dgh123> english9090: try running pavucontrol and seeing if it is in there
[23:34] <english9090> i am install pulse audio
[23:35] <dgh123> english9090: be careful not to break everything
[23:35] <english9090> no only install
[23:35] <dgh123> english9090: While you are at it, run sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[23:35] <dgh123> english9090: A front end gui program
[23:35] <dgh123> english9090: to pulseaudio
[23:36] <TJ-> english9090: "pastebinit <( systemctl status | grep pulseaudio )"
[23:36] <johnny_linux> QasMixer works well also
[23:37] <dgh123> TJ: Any word on the iMac display issue yet?
[23:37] <TJ-> dgh123: pulseaudio doesn't run as a system service; it runs as the user in the user.slice
[23:37] <johnny_linux> dgh123, is that a crt model ?
[23:37] <TJ-> dgh123: which issue is that? I've heard of many!
[23:38] <dgh123> TJ: I tried booting into the iMac but it kernel panicked and said a recursive reboot was needed or something to that effect
[23:38] <dgh123> TJ: It was the no EDID found issue
[23:38] <english9090> guys 1 sec
[23:38] <TJ-> dgh123: OK, TV-1 output thing?
[23:38] <dgh123> TJ: wouldn't log in or startx
[23:38] <dgh123> TJ: Right
[23:38] <english9090> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12909342/
[23:38] <dgh123> TJ: Certain times ending up in a kernel panic
[23:39] <dgh123> TJ: And xorg.conf not having any effect
[23:39] <TJ-> dgh123: First thing I'd do is boot it to text mode only (no GUI), ssh in from another machine to be able to tail log files, then try starting the GUI and monitoring /var/log/xorg.*.log, /var/log/lightdm/* and /home/$USER/.xsession-errors
[23:40] <TJ-> english9090: that confirms pulseaudio is running
[23:40] <dgh123> TJ: I could boot into the installation disk and chroot into it
[23:40] <dgh123> TJ: as for booting into text mode or changing TTYs, kernel panic at times
[23:40] <TJ-> english9090: notice it is logging to syslog. check out /var/log/syslog for indications of problems.
[23:41] <TJ-> dgh123: is that using a proprietary GPU driver?
[23:41] <dgh123> TJ: If the installation disk is too limited, then I could try a gentoo disk and chroot.
[23:41] <dgh123> TJ: Maybe
[23:41] <TJ-> dgh123: If that happens without the GUI then focus on that, sounds like the root cause
[23:41] <dgh123> TJ: It is an Nvidia GeForce X5200
[23:42] <TJ-> dgh123: if it is using nouveau, on the other hand, then at least its open source and can be debugged to some extend
[23:42] <dgh123> TJ: I passed ignore parameters to xorg.conf to ignore tv-1 and vga-1
[23:42] <english9090> guys how find software and driver upgrade program
[23:42] <TJ-> s/extend/extent/
[23:42] <dgh123> TJ: and tried porting it through to DVI-1
[23:42] <dgh123> TJ: Yes, the nouveau driver
[23:42] <TJ-> dgh123: but if the panics can occur without X running, there's no indication those changes would help
[23:42] <dgh123> TJ: Right
[23:43] <dgh123> TJ: Any suggestions? Maybe install Ubuntu 15.10 instead of 14.04?
[23:43] <TJ-> dgh123: it sounds more to me like a a fundamental issue with the driver and the output. Does it still fail if the Tv-1 output device is disconnected?
[23:43] <dgh123> TJ: Yes
[23:43] <dgh123> TJ: It has a single built in monitor
[23:43] <english9090> oh no
[23:43] <english9090> guys
[23:43] <english9090> have a problem
[23:44] <dgh123> TJ: I tried to use xorg.conf to have X ignore the erroneous outputs
[23:44] <TJ-> dgh123: certainly worth trying 15.10, possibly from live ISO to begin with
[23:44] <dgh123> english9090: What's wrong?
[23:44] <english9090> the system recognize hdmi audio port of my laptop and not recognize the alc driver
[23:44] <dgh123> TJ: Sure thing. I will try.
[23:44] <dgh123> TJ: I will let you know. I tried debian 8 and it worked alright. Just without the wifi drivers for my atheros usb card.
[23:45] <Mythikos> ANyone here experienced with Metacity desktop?
[23:45] <TJ-> english9090: "pastebinit <( pactl list )"
[23:45] <Mythikos> ANyone at all?
[23:45] <Metacity> ?
[23:45] <Metacity> Oh.
[23:45] <TJ-> !ltse | dgh123: you could try
[23:45] <kostkon> !ask | Mythikos
[23:46] <english9090> connection refused DG_RUNTIME_DIR (/run/user/1000) is not owned by us (uid 0), but by uid 1000! (This could e g happen if you try to connect to a non-root PulseAudio as a root user, over the native protocol. Don't do that.)
[23:46] <english9090> Connessione non riuscita: Connessione rifiutata
[23:46] <english9090> pa_context_connect() non riuscita: Connessione rifiutata
[23:46] <daftykins> i think metacity is a window decorator, not a desktop?
[23:46] <Metacity> Metacity is a window manager.
[23:46] <Mythikos> Something like that
[23:47] <TJ-> english9090: is your current terminal shell logged in as root ?
[23:47] <dgh123> TJ: Could some issues occur from a crappy installation medium?
[23:47] <Metacity> Though I, obviously, am not. :P
[23:47] <TJ-> english9090: "whoami"
[23:47] <english9090> yes
[23:47] <dgh123> TJ: I used a DVD+R instead of a CD-R.
[23:47] <TJ-> dgh123: yes, if executables were corrupted but it should be detected via the file hashes
[23:47] <daftykins> Metacity: :)
[23:47] <Mythikos> Anyone have experience with it? I noticed when I click+drag windows, there are slight artifacts. First time using it (setting it up).
[23:48] <Mythikos> Metacity You can't even lie :D
[23:48] <dgh123> TJ: Debian did not work when I used DVD+R but worked just fine with CD-R. I will give Ub 15.10 a try. ;)
[23:48] <Metacity> ...
[23:48] <english9090> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12909471/
[23:48]  * Metacity showers Mythikos in artifacts and poofs out of existence.
[23:48] <dgh123> TJ: I think a usb stick would work with a FAT32 file system on the iMac.
[23:48] <dgh123> TJ: I could try that too.
[23:49] <Mythikos> lol So is it normal?
[23:49] <Mythikos> It is only slight, but it is a bit irritating, and worrisome
[23:50] <Mythikos> Was going off of this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseGnomeClassicTweaks#Restoring_Default_Desktop when I began
[23:50] <TJ-> english9090: OK, that confirms the problem. Pulseaudio is not seeing the built-in HDA Realtek audio ALSA devices
[23:51] <TJ-> english9090: but we know ALSA does see it, and can use it
[23:51] <Mythikos> Gosh. No one
[23:51] <english9090> yes
[23:51] <dgh123> TJ: Downloading the 15.10 mini.iso for ppc64 now.
[23:52] <dgh123> TJ: I will let you know the results.
[23:52] <Mythikos> I must ask ridiculous questions in here or something, because I swear, I never get answered
[23:52] <Mythikos> I can only conclude my questions are either too novel, or too complex, and I am betting on the former
[23:52] <english9090> i am reboot pc for view work or not the repair
[23:53] <Mythikos> Is there a Ubuntu Gnome Flashback Metacity channel or something?
[23:53] <Mythikos> Or a desktop one?
[23:53] <Mythikos> Windows Manager, etc
[23:54] <lettuce45> the minimize and maximize bar for each of my applications in xubuntu 15.10 is gone
[23:54] <lettuce45> help!!
[23:54] <Mythikos> lettuce45 The werewolf has you now
[23:55] <moffa> Hello, after upgrading to 15.10, I'm stuck on [ ** ] A start job is running for LSB: Raise network interfaces (5min 23s / no limit)
[23:58] <TJ-> moffa: sounds like SystemD is stuck waiting for the network devices to appear
[23:58] <syntroPi> where does that vboxvideo preinstalled come from? linux-image-extra? cant deinstall that without deinstalling linux-image(-generic)... how do i get rid of vboxvideo.so on a clean install?
[23:59] <TJ-> syntroPi: "dpkg -S <partial-filename>"
[23:59] <syntroPi> yeah thats what i did
[23:59] <daftykins> the only time i heard someone say 'deinstall' they were a RISC OS user on acorns ;)
[23:59] <moffa> TJ -: Yeah I'm not sure why though