[00:08] <bluesabre> Unit193: I think the automatic notifications wait a few days
[00:09] <bluesabre> I tried to upgrade my computer at the office today
[00:09] <bluesabre> went from 14.04 to 15.04
[00:09] <bluesabre> (via the automatic update)
[00:09] <bluesabre> or rather, started to
[00:09] <bluesabre> upgrades to fo-evah
[00:27] <Unit193> "as a side note, xubuntu core doesn't seem to come with update-manager by default, so it must be installed if you want to upgrade to a newer version" || "IIRC, they expect if you're using -core, you'll know how to use the CLI :)"
[00:37] <flocculant> I would expect someone using our core as it currently is to be able to fix things]
[00:38] <flocculant> hence *my* wanting us to be giving a 'core' iso
[00:38] <flocculant> should just work then afaik
[00:40] <flocculant> Unit193: that said I'm cool with us adding a "you can do minimal and tasksel, so should be able to fix this currently" note
[00:40] <bluesabre> flocculant: trying to update the PPAs, but build recipes are still creating 15.10 for xenial... so we might have to wait a bit
[00:40] <flocculant> not sure what bluesabre and ochosi think on that for the last 'cycle(s)' 
[00:41] <flocculant> bluesabre: ack - I can accept asap as when it works :D 
[00:41] <flocculant> I just really want to bolt out as soon as we can for packages
[00:41] <bluesabre> sure thing
[00:41] <bluesabre> I've enabled daily builds for all of our daily build ppas
[00:42] <bluesabre> so, the first part is done at least
[00:42] <flocculant> bluesabre: I assume you saw my last 'usability' bug 
[00:42] <bluesabre> flocculant: which one?
[00:42] <flocculant> nothing to stop us asking people to add that as a tag btw
[00:43] <flocculant> bluesabre: catfish only lets me delete files one by one ... bug 1508918
[00:43] <flocculant> might be design - then wishlist I guess
[00:44] <flocculant> the thing is imho that we report = and someone makes a decision that is seen 
[00:44] <bluesabre> yup
[00:45] <bluesabre> any bug reports, and I'll have to comment on them eventually :D
[00:45] <flocculant> bluesabre: quiet frankly I will report that blue should be white as a bug as long as someone 'official' responds with a proper response
[00:45] <bluesabre> :D
[00:45] <flocculant> if *we* can do that then we are +1 on Ubuntu 
[00:46] <flocculant> on *our* bugs
[00:47] <bluesabre> yup, I'll have a better focus on responding to bugs this cycle
[00:47] <flocculant> bluesabre: I am trying to watch and put things on the bug bp 
[00:48] <flocculant> some I can mark, but they are always in mind and on the tracker
[00:48] <bluesabre> yeah, if they are on the tracker I will certainly see them
[00:48] <flocculant> bluesabre: we can ask people to report things - but we need to at least respond somehow
[00:48] <flocculant> even if asking a ? and marking incomplete
[00:49] <Unit193> Hi.
[00:49] <flocculant> gives people hope 
[00:49] <flocculant> Unit193: hey
[00:49] <bluesabre> hey Unit193 
[00:50] <flocculant> bluesabre: I don't care if bugs b/p is a year long as long as none are New :D
[00:50] <bluesabre> Unit193: I do use this as well, want to add xenial to it? https://sigma.unit193.net/~unit193/xfce412.html
[00:50] <bluesabre> flocculant: reasonable to me
[00:52] <flocculant> :)
[00:52] <flocculant> bluesabre: see -ooftopic
[00:52] <flocculant> or -offtopic 
[00:54] <drc> Quick question:  Was looking at the qa page, ppa's...do the staging and daily build ppa's overlap?  Any problem running both?
[00:55] <Unit193> bluesabre: Of course, just hadn't yet.
[00:57] <Unit193> Next update will do it.
[00:59] <Unit193> bluesabre: And, glad to know it is useful to someone other than me!  Updated xfce-4.12 to track trusty and wily, staging now tracks xenial.
[01:03] <flocculant> Unit193: I look at that too - detail is lost on me ofc, so I just rely on colours
[01:04] <Unit193> Hah. :D
[01:05] <Unit193> Not sure if I'm supposed to say that I updated https://unit193.net/xubuntu/core/ too.
[01:06] <flocculant> so make red green and I will be //o\ cos green would be red :p
[01:07] <Unit193> "Archive: closed, britney block in place"  dangit, George.
[01:15] <flocculant> bluesabre: luckily it appears that we're both singing from the same song sheet here :)
[01:17] <flocculant> ali1234: could you do *us* a small favour please? Make the apport.conf types make basic sense so I can pass that on to testers
[01:18] <flocculant> eg report goes to errors and we do't necessarily see them, but we see things reported via ubuntu-bug
[08:59] <slickymasterWork> flocculant, in 7 days my from now, my membership in QA is due to expire
[08:59] <slickymasterWork> if you think I'm worth it, can you please renew it?
[09:00] <Unit193> Hah.
[09:04] <flocculant> :)
[09:05] <Unit193> Mine expires too.
[09:05] <Unit193> (However, I know I don't do much QA...)
[09:13] <flocculant> everyone expires
[09:16] <akxwi_dave> just like taxes and death! :-)
[09:16] <davmor2> slickymasterWork: you can renew it yourself you should of had an email that say renew
[09:18] <slickymasterWork> davmor2, it's a moderated team, I can not do it. Just one of the team's admins has the possibility to do it 
[09:20] <flocculant> davmor2: we've 2 testy teams - the testers which people can just join and the QA one which is a way for people to involve themselves more and is a step towards joining Xubuntu Team
[09:20] <Unit193> Not jumping on Xenial yet. :P
[09:21] <flocculant> Unit193: close :p
[09:21] <davmor2> flocculant: ah okay my bag
[09:21] <flocculant> Unit193: I thought I might run a released version for a whole day :p
[09:21] <Unit193> Honestly, you should run it a month or two.
[09:21] <flocculant> davmor2: did it cost five new pence
[09:22] <flocculant> Unit193: but then I would be back and forth
[09:22] <Unit193> Get a rest after a release though!
[09:22] <flocculant> I am :)
[11:07] <Unit193> xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin (NEW) 0.2.3-1 uploaded by Yves-Alexis Perez (corsac)
[11:45] <slickymasterWork> btw knome, I'll be setting up the -docs branch for Xenial tonight, through the weekend at the most
[11:47] <flocculant> so what you mean is that by Monday it'll be done :p
[11:47] <slickymasterWork> nopes, ungrateful flocculant :P
[11:47] <flocculant> :)
[11:47] <slickymasterWork> :)
[11:47] <flocculant> it's docs so meh :p
[11:48] <slickymasterWork> hah
[11:49] <slickymasterWork> your MP will land in Xenial flocculant 
[11:49] <flocculant> done my bit - handed slickymasterWork an enormous pile of changes :D
[11:50]  * slickymasterWork will deal with them
[12:14] <knome> slickymasterWork, ok, ping me if you need help
[12:30] <knome> bbl
[13:11] <ali1234> flocculant: sorry, what?
[20:12] <Unit193> Did a couple syncs. \o/
[20:33] <knome> getting up to full speed already then, eh?
[20:40] <Unit193> Nope, just been wanting to get that in since 2015-09-16.
[20:48] <knome> wrooong answer
[20:49] <Unit193> Can't get your hopes up!
[20:53] <knome> :D
[20:58] <Unit193> https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-default-settings branched wily/registered the series, doing on artwork too.
[21:04] <knome> good good
[21:05] <Unit193> Bah, I give up.
[21:05] <knome> on what?
[21:05] <Unit193> Seems the series wily can either own the wily repo, or the target can be xenial, not both.
[21:07] <Unit193> Fine, it'll be wrong then.
[21:08] <knome> :P
[21:09] <Unit193> https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-artwork set series wily to branch wily → Target changes back to wily, change target to Xenial → series wily and series xenial target xenial branch.
[21:10] <knome> hmm.
[21:10] <Unit193> Oh, you have to change the focus to wily in two different places, and in the correct order. >_<
[21:10] <Unit193> I'll leave this to Simon next time, sigh.
[21:11] <knome> haha
[21:14] <Unit193> I think everything is prepped then.
[21:16] <knome> nice