[01:26] <LinDol> hi all :)
[01:28] <LinDol> I celebrate releasing of Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 :)
[03:01] <darkxst> , its probably ok to just use the NEWS entry for description
[03:02] <darkxst> oh eliasps is not here
[03:05] <lindol> haha :)
[03:05] <lindol> good afternoon darkxst :)
[03:06] <darkxst> lindol, hey lindol
[03:07] <lindol> hi :>
[03:25] <darkxst> lindol,you  enjoying the release?
[03:28] <lindol> haha I have not tried to install WW to my latop yet.
[03:28] <lindol> but i will try to install it on my laptop this night :)
[03:29] <lindol> i am exciting about it :>
[03:31] <lindol> how about you?
[03:49] <lindol> oh i have to go to Seoul :) have a great all :)
[03:49] <lindol> see u soon.
[05:07] <darkxst> mgedmin, you want to prepare sru for tracker fix? I have uploaded packages gnome3-staging, so just needs paperwork (and I guess testing that it fixes it!)
[05:12] <darkxst> (and uploaded to xenial also)
[06:14] <darkxst> Noskcaj, http://phillw.net/ubuntu-gnome/xenial318.html
[06:15] <Noskcaj> ok, i'll do a bit tomorrow
[06:15] <darkxst> there is loads stuck in proposed, but some of that is just the buildd's and autopkgtest backlogs
[08:34] <berglh> darkxst: my machine doesn't power off, it never has powered off correctly with 15.04 and 15.10. just wondering if you have any ideas for troubleshooting
[08:34] <berglh> i unloaded my nic driver with modprobe and stopped networkmanager
[08:34] <berglh> i know this is out of the scope of ubuntu-gnome per se
[08:36] <berglh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914045/ that's my syslog on a power off shutdown
[08:39] <berglh> there's a lot of things not working, guess i'll just keep posting on bugs.launchpad
[10:55] <mgedmin> berglh, what happens instead of a poweroff?
[10:56] <mgedmin> how long have you waited?
[10:56] <mgedmin> my laptop takes 30-50 minutes to reboot because swapoff is that slow
[10:56] <mgedmin> fun: if I sudo swapoff -a before I reboot, it takes 15 minutes (assuming ~4 gigs of used swap space)
[10:56] <mgedmin> and then shutdown/reboot are fast
[10:56] <mgedmin> if I don't, if I let systemd do the swapoff, it takes much longer
[10:57] <mgedmin> at one point I hit Esc at the right time to see messages instead of the splash
[10:57] <mgedmin> and I saw it "deactivating swap" four times for my single swap partition
[10:57] <mgedmin> using different device names (/dev/disk/by_uuid/, /dev/disk/by/name, /dev/sda2, don't remember the last one)
[10:57] <mgedmin> of course all of that happens after syslog is already dead so you won't find anything interesting in the logs
[10:58] <mgedmin> anyway, I suspect the shutdown scripts may be running swapoff in parallel or something, which makes it maybe four times slower
[10:58] <mgedmin> dunno if your problem is related
[10:58] <mgedmin> darkxst, I think a SRU is a good idea, but I'm not feeling motivated to work on a weekend
[10:58] <mgedmin> I'll see how I feel on Monday
[10:58] <berglh> thanks mgedmin, reboots are fast
[10:59] <berglh> < 1 minute
[10:59] <berglh> if i press escape i don't even see anything before the screen turns off
[10:59] <berglh> i tried to go to terminal and kill the gdm service first
[10:59] <berglh> so maybe i could see something
[10:59] <berglh> i didn't have much luck
[11:00] <mgedmin> hmm
[11:00] <mgedmin> there's a README.Debian somewhere in /usr/share/docs/systemd* that tells you how you can debug shutdown issues
[11:01] <mgedmin> "For shutdown problems, run "systemctl start debug-shell" as root, then shut down."
[11:01] <mgedmin> it starts a root shell on VT 9
[11:01] <mgedmin> you can then inspect running jobs, or dunno, dmesg?
[11:07] <berglh> thanks for the idea, i'll have a look
[11:11] <berglh> cool, debug shutdown with systemd
[11:11] <berglh> i'll give it a crack in the morning
[11:11] <berglh> once you change to vt9, do ps, systemctl, dmesg etc and figure out if anything is still running
[11:12] <berglh> my problem is that it might actually be past that point where it happens
[11:16] <berglh> hrm, so i just gave it a go
[11:16] <berglh> becase the screen powers off and the keyboard powers off, i think it's getting past anyting systemd related
[11:17] <berglh> i'm wondering it's more of an acpi/power control issue over the hardware
[11:17] <berglh> silly macs
[18:43] <bcx> how is called the feature that visually indicates that we scrolled to the top/bottom ?
[22:03] <Guest16279> Hey. Any luck with AMD proprietary drivers? Just tried to install them and couldn't boot. Had to reset to open source ones... but I might want to play games/use steam some day.
[22:03] <Guest16279> In 15.10 that is
[22:06] <berglh> I've experience the same issue
[22:07] <berglh> it bombs out generating the kernel module using dkms
[22:08] <berglh> t
[23:50] <darkxst> eliasps, re clutter, just use NEWS log for description
[23:50] <darkxst> test case can be a smoke test, to make sure the world doesnt blow apart