[00:00] <moffa> TJ - : or there seems to be something broken with systemctl
[00:00] <TJ-> syntroPi: this? "virtualbox-guest-x11: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/vboxvideo_drv.so" ?
[00:01] <syntroPi> yeah thats the one maybe.
[00:01] <TJ-> moffa: A release upgrade? could be the ethernet device naming issue - systemd uses its own hardware-location-based naming scheme; if you had udevd persistent-net-names rules that might have caught it out
[00:02] <TJ-> syntroPi: the only other .so is in the same package: "virtualbox-guest-x11: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/vboxvideo_dri.so"
[00:03] <TJ-> syntroPi: that package has NO Depends on the linux-image packages
[00:03] <syntroPi> TJ- thanks i uninstalled it
[00:03] <TJ-> cccccceleitdkvngvkuufkcvktefrluebduhilbdnhgl
[00:04] <TJ-> oops! pressed my yubikey by mistake!
[00:04] <syntroPi> TJ- nice im thinking about ordering a neo
[00:04] <syntroPi> can you recommend those?
[00:05] <dgh123> TJ: Is there such a thing as doing a netinstall over wireless?
[00:05] <dgh123> TJ: Wifi?
[00:05] <TJ-> Yes, definitely. I'm working on integrating the offline code for LUKS/cryptsetup, and grub, to allow OTP of full disk encryption
[00:06] <TJ-> dgh123: I don't think so :)
[00:06] <dgh123> TJ: Alright then. Thank you ;D
[00:06] <syntroPi> TJ- dang that sounds neat :)
[00:06] <dgh123> TJ: Yes
[00:06] <TJ-> syntroPi: It sounds neat... hope it is as easy as it sounds, but I fear headaches await!
[00:07] <dgh123> TJ: It might've been there for i386 and amd64 but not other architectures. Yet again, maybe not.
[00:07] <dgh123> TJ: Or it might've been there for debian in that same case but not for other arches.
[00:08] <syntroPi> TJ- are their client libraries all open and already packaged?
[00:08] <syntroPi> is their firmware trustworthy?
[00:09] <daftykins> dgh123: there might be a way to get mini.iso online with wifi but it screams "why bother?" to me
[00:09] <daftykins> though i'd always favour wired over wifi for any initial install
[00:10] <dgh123> syntroPi: If you have to really question that, probably consider not using their firmware.
[00:10] <dgh123> daftykins: If not, then I could just bridge the network connections on my Lubuntu laptop to the iMac no problem ;)
[00:11] <dgh123> daftykins: wifi sharing over ethernet via net bridging...
[00:11] <moffa> TJ -: seems that systemctl screwed up everything
[00:12] <daftykins> dgh123: heh fair enough
[00:12]  * daftykins pats network cables
[00:12] <syntroPi> dgh123, good point, didnt say i would have to question that, just did out of curiosity. probably you are right doesnt really matter
[00:12] <syntroPi> by design
[00:14] <TJ-> syntroPi: the yubikey libraries are on gitlab/github, but I have to package them, and for grub, write new code
[00:16] <TJ-> dgh123: I'm looking in the initrd.img.gz of the powerpc 15.10 net-installer; it has some drivers/net/wireless/ modules; which exact device does that PC have? (PCI Vendor:Product ID)
[00:17] <dgh123> TJ: I plugged in my ath9k card in the usb port.
[00:17] <dgh123> TJ: But I will just use a network bridge and share my wireless connection via my laptop.
[00:17] <dgh123> TJ: to the ethernet on the iMac
[00:17] <syntroPi> TJ- wow that would be really cool. as long as one would have the yubikey in physical posession one could be sure the data is safe. once its destroyed one could even plausible deny the knowledge of any pass
[00:17] <TJ-> dgh I see ./ath/ath.ko, ./ipw2x00/ipw2{1,2}00.ko, ./orinoco/, ./rt2x00/  airo.ko, atmel.ko
[00:18] <dgh123> TJ: Right. I am not sure how to use that.
[00:19] <TJ-> syntroPi: yeah... the trick will be ensuring the OTP sequence is known well enough to be able to insert the *next* in the sequence into one of the LUKS slots ... that will probably turn out to be the wrong way to do it, but its my working hypothesis for now
[00:19] <TJ-> dgh123: I was looking at it to find out if the netinst image had any wifi drivers. It does, but they're all very OLD legacy devices
[00:20] <TJ-> dgh123: I'm wondering if someone forgot to bring them up-to-date, or if there's a need for those
[00:20] <dgh123> TJ: right
[00:20] <dgh123> TJ: np
[00:20] <dgh123> TJ: I am using the bridge successfully anyway
[00:21] <dgh123> TJ: with the installation medium of CD-R, the installation seems to be going much more smoothly.
[00:21] <TJ-> On that happy note - bedtime!
[00:21] <dgh123> TJ: The installation media  is working well too (Ub 15.10).
[00:21] <tlt> the 15.10 image is < 702mb ?
[00:22] <dgh123> tlt: I am not sure. I am currently using the net install =D
[00:22] <tlt> a CD-r only holds 702 mb
[00:22] <tlt> okies
[00:22] <dgh123> tlt: <47 MB
[00:23] <syntroPi> TJ- that sounds just too cool, im gonna order such a yubikey. is the neo the correct one for that?
[00:23] <tlt> I see dgh123
[00:23] <TJ-> syntroPi: It seems like it offers the best range of features, including NFC, and multiple application support
[00:23] <dgh123> tlt: That is the ppc64 netinst img for Ub 15.10.
[00:24] <dgh123> tlt: Currently using it for an iMac G5 with 1.25 GB of RAM
[00:24] <tlt> ok got cha
[00:24] <TJ-> syntroPi: not sure how it'll cope with use on ssh log-ins, screensaver unlock, etc :p
[00:24] <dgh123> tlt: (1,256 MB)
[00:24] <dgh123> tlt: Sure thing ;)
[00:24] <b-yeezi> ubuntu mate will be perfect for that
[00:25] <syntroPi> TJ-, but NFC is just for the big key (neo), not the small neo which could hide inside an usb right?
[00:25] <TJ-> syntroPi: correct, I can't see the point of the nano sized device, once its in, how the heck do you get it out without busting the port?
[00:25] <dgh123> b-yeezi: I agree. So will Lubuntu and Xubuntu (If only they worked when I tried them on 14.04 :/)
[00:26] <dgh123> b-yeezi: with 14.04 on Xubuntu, the screen froze. Now trying stock Ub 15.10 ;)
[00:27] <b-yeezi> dgh123: mate has been supporting ppc for a couple of releases now
[00:27] <syntroPi> TJ-, i think its meant for notebooks so it would not break
[00:27] <b-yeezi> I love unity, but it's resource heavy
[00:27] <dgh123> b-yeezi: TJ said that My crappy installation mediums (DVD+Rs) could've had a big effect on the sys files. Now using CD-R. BTW, I could check that out ;)
[00:28] <dgh123> b-yeezi: 14.04+DVD+R = Disaster
[00:28] <dgh123> :/
[00:28] <syntroPi> TJ-, but id also rather get the big one with nfc i read on android one could even use openkeychain to pgp mail without even storing the private keys on the phone :)
[00:29] <b-yeezi> The last cd/dvd install I did was on 12.10
[00:29] <dgh123> b-yeezi: How did that work for you?
[00:29] <tlt> I just dd the isos right onto raw usb pens
[00:30] <tlt> and install from thar
[00:30] <b-yeezi> It depends on what you use to make it. I used nero from windows. It worked better than brasero for me.
[00:31] <TJ-> syntroPi: I've yet to find time to experiment with it fully; I'm trying to avoid doing anything to it that I might regret later
[00:31] <b-yeezi> Now I don't own any windows machines, but I just use usb and dcfldd
[00:34] <TJ-> syntroPi: Mostly I want to avoid using it via 'cloud' based authentication methods
[00:34] <English9090_andr> Tj iam view now normal audio not realtà driver tomorrow
[00:34] <syntroPi> TJ-, yeah i also would prefer a pure local usage
[00:35] <syntroPi> but afaik the cloud functions are all optional right?
[00:36] <TJ-> syntroPi: they are the default for 2-factor services, but the code they've published supports offline mode, which is what I want to focus on... be great to have it work across all local *buntu devices without needing to connect to an external authenticator
[00:36] <English9090_andr> Now in EU are night i the morning i am search how to install realtek driver
[00:37] <syntroPi> TJ-, yeah which would be with two big advantages: trust only relies on local components (even closed firmware), and functionality would not depend on internet connectivity.
[00:37] <TJ-> English9090_andr: As I told you earlier, the drivers are installed correctly. ALSA sees and uses the device. The issue is that PulseAudio for some reason does NOT see the built-in Realtek ALSA device. That's where you need to focus
[00:38] <English9090_andr> Ok
[00:38] <English9090_andr> I am try to focus in it
[00:38] <dgh123> English9090: Try disabling or getting rid of pulseaudio and use what works if you would like ;)
[00:38] <TJ-> syntroPi: that plus information leakage if the cloud can collect the usage pattern of the device, and where the requests came from
[00:39] <Y7-dot-0> hi im trying to follow this guide http://blog.bluedrive.ro/?p=28 but i get " is not a hex string. Abort"
[00:39] <English9090_andr> If repair installo ubuntu
[00:39] <TJ-> English9090_andr: PulseAudio logs to /var/log/syslog; check that log-file for clues as to why it doesn't correctly link to the ALSA device
[00:39] <Y7-dot-0> when i run " sudo usb_modeswitch -v 12d1 -p 151a -V 12d1 -P 151b -W -M "xxxxxx...." "
[00:40] <TJ-> Y7-dot-0: the -M "...." must be hex. check it has an even number of characters, and all are from the set 0-9A-F
[00:40] <English9090_andr> Now I am on bed because are night if you like i  send on Pm my skype
[00:40] <TJ-> English9090_andr: it is 01:40 here; I'm going to bed now too
[00:41] <Jetbridge> is wine out for ubuntu 15.10 yet?
[00:41] <Y7-dot-0> TJ- “55534243123456780000000000000011062000000100000000000000000000″
[00:42] <syntroPi> TJ-, plus in contrast to a soldered-onto-pcb tpm module, you always could just go ahead and destroy yubikey (which you can carry around in your pocket) and there would be no way to recover any data
[00:42] <Y7-dot-0> 228F1D87A60E3400000000000000000000000000000000000000 ?
[00:42] <dgh123> Jetbridge: If it is not, you could install it from source no problem.
[00:42] <TJ-> Y7-dot-0: "echo 55534243123456780000000000000011062000000100000000000000000000 | wc --bytes" ==> 63
[00:43] <Y7-dot-0> TJ- i found a converter online, it said: 228F1D87A60E3400000000000000000000000000000000000000
[00:43] <TJ-> Y7-dot-0: that's 53 characters; I'd expect it to have an even number
[00:44] <Y7-dot-0> so has to bee 64 right?
[00:44] <TJ-> Y7-dot-0: each pair of hexadecimal characters represents 1 byte
[00:44] <Y7-dot-0>  /me wonder if i could just add anohter 0 perhaps he forgot it
[00:45] <English9090_andr> dgh123 on pvt i am send my skype
[00:46] <dgh123> English9090_andr: Do you need help or something?
[00:46] <dgh123> English9090_andr: What about teamviewer as a last resort?
[00:46] <dgh123> English9090_andr: (Just a thought)
[00:47] <Y7-dot-0> i need advice for this problem: http://pastebin.com/fnhQHyr6
[00:48] <English9090_andr> I am request to you skype friend for chat
[00:48] <Y7-dot-0> skype? use tox
[00:48] <Y7-dot-0> tox.chat
[00:48] <dgh123> English9090_andr: Thanks for the offer.
[00:48] <dgh123> English9090_andr: no thx though ;)
[00:49] <English9090_andr> Driver work and i am happy
[00:49] <dgh123> English9090_andr: There is opentox
[00:49] <English9090_andr> Now ia m on android
[00:49] <dgh123> English9090_andr: (opentok) sorry
[00:50] <ulkesh> Just upgraded to Ubuntu 15.10 and new applications that are installed will not show when searching in the Unity dash.  Anyone have any idea on how to fix this?
[00:51] <ulkesh> Disregard, it may have just taken much longer to update the cache.  Pidgin now shows (previously it didn't even after minutes of having it installed).
[00:52] <edem_> am i alive?
[00:53] <turnt> edem_: I hope!
[00:53] <edem_> alas!
[00:54] <bilb_ono> where does ubuntu store its .tgz files? like when I install a package
[00:54] <bilb_ono> I am specifically trying to find the pip .tgz if that helps
[00:54] <tlt> in /var/cache/apt/archives/.
[00:54] <tlt> but it's deb not tgz
[00:55] <English9090_andr> dgh123 via poi am request to you
[00:55] <English9090_andr> If play a game via pm
[00:56] <bilb_ono> tlt: hmm so I see python-pip_1.0-1build1_all.deb. Is this the “newest pip” that I would get it I installed via apt-get pip install —update pip
[00:57] <tlt> if it says it's going to need downloading 0 mb then it is
[00:57] <bilb_ono> where would it say that?
[00:57] <tlt> if it has to download another newer version then it isn't
[00:57] <bilb_ono> oh i c
[00:58] <turnt> tlt: you can see what the latest package versions are by running a system update
[00:59] <bilb_ono> so is python-pip the same as pip
[00:59] <turnt> (at least the latest version in the official repos)
[00:59] <turnt> bilb_ono: from what i can see yes it is
[01:03] <Sazpaimon_> Can someone suggest a remote desktop application that supports multiple users and works well with video playing on the remote system? I've found that something like VNC slows down the entire desktop to a crawl when there's video playing
[01:05] <turnt> Sazpaimon_: Remote desktop is tricky... It has to stream video over a network (which is very slow), you could use ssh with the -X option
[01:07] <Y7-dot-0> hi guys
[01:07] <Y7-dot-0> do you know any sms software for ubuntu? or some phone software ?
[01:08] <dgh123> Y7-dot-0: Talkatone and line 2
[01:08] <dgh123> Y7-dot-0: Also, Google Voice app(s)
[01:09] <Y7-dot-0> can ifind them in sotware center?
[01:11] <Sazpaimon_> turnt, ideally I'd like something that is easy for a client to use
[01:11] <tlt> turnt, I'm sure watching videos over ssh -X isn't really fast actually
[01:11] <Sazpaimon_> my benchmark right now is MS remote desktop, which does fairly well with video over the internet
[01:12] <turnt> tlt: Watching videos over ANY encrypted remote connection is slow
[01:12] <Sazpaimon_> if I must, I'll use VNC, but Im afraid that will just slow to a crawl when there's a video playing
[01:13] <Sazpaimon_> MS RDP is at least usable when a video is playing
[01:14] <Sazpaimon_> I might also try something like teamviewer
[01:14] <robot_programmer> For captare video source you need pcap driver installed and pavket sniff er
[01:15] <Sazpaimon_> I'm not capturing video, I'm just trying to see if anyone knows of a remote desktop program that won't be unusable if video is  playing on the remote machine
[01:18] <XIX> Sazpaimon_: That sounds like a pretty cool project. You're basically trying to stream video over the internet huh?
[01:19] <dgh123> BTW, when does 12.04 LTS end?
[01:19] <dgh123> EOL?
[01:19] <r0nn> hi guys, I need to boot straight in console mode to install nvidia driver because the login screen freeze almost instantly. any idea ? replacing quiet splash by text didnt work
[01:20] <Bashing-om> r0nn: systemd ?
[01:20] <r0nn> yes
[01:20] <dgh123> r0nn: Try switching TTYs. If that doesn't work, try getting a gentoo install disk or ubuntu install disk and chroot into the system.
[01:21] <Bashing-om> r0nn: Boot patameter " systemd.unit=multi-user.target " .
[01:22] <r0nn> dgh123, switching TTY is not working. By chroot / on my hard drive I will be able to apt-get straight on the drive ?
[01:22] <Sazpaimon_> XIX, not quite, I'm running a server that will act as a relay to a video streaming site. Basically, someone will stream to the RTMP server on the box, and there will be an instance of an application that will take the RTMP stream and put it on an overlay, then stream that to a streaming website
[01:22] <tlt> dgh123, probably in 2017. 12 means 2012? And it's five year supported
[01:22] <r0nn> Bashing-om, thank will try right away
[01:22] <dgh123> tlt: Thanks.
[01:23] <Sazpaimon_> I need to make it so a moderator can remotely log on to the box and manage the streaming software (OBS), and make changes to the overlay if needed
[01:23] <tlt> 14.04 should end in 2019
[01:23] <dgh123> tlt: Right.
[01:23] <dgh123> tlt: What about 16.04 or 18.04?
[01:23] <dgh123> tlt: In the future...
[01:23] <Sazpaimon_> obviously since the overlay will have the RTMP stream on it, I need to make it so it can be tolerable for them to manage the overlay without the video stream causing the remote session to be really slow
[01:23] <tlt> add five years to 16 == 21
[01:23] <dgh123> tlt: Thanks
[01:24] <tlt> they might change support ranges, it's a long time till 2018 still
[01:24] <tlt> 12.04 means April 2012
[01:24] <tlt> so you get the version logics?
[01:24] <dgh123> tlt: Yes.
[01:24] <dgh123> tlt: Thanks
[01:24] <dgh123> tlt: AHH
[01:25] <dgh123> tlt: 15.04 april 2015, 15.10 october 2015.
[01:25] <dgh123> tlt: I get it
[01:26] <dgh123> TJ: Are you still here? If you are, I will let you know how 15.10 on a CD-R installation goes.
[01:27] <dgh123> TJ: It is almost done.
[01:27] <oddRobot> what is the best terminal partition manager? Parted 3 is pretty much useless without the 'resize' command... :(
[01:27] <dgh123> oddRobot: I like and prefer cfdisk.
[01:28] <dgh123> oddRobot: fdisk is my second choice.
[01:28] <oddRobot> what about gdisk?
[01:28] <dgh123> oddRobot: I am not familiar with gdisk.
[01:28] <dgh123> oddRobot: That is all I have to offer right now.
[01:29] <oddRobot> dgh123: thanks! I'll check out cfdisk
[01:32] <Gerowen> Anybody tried using PCSXR after upgrading to 15.10?
[01:34] <dgh123> oddRobot: No problem.
[01:34] <dgh123> Hey everyone, I am getting an error message on my iMac.
[01:35] <dgh123> Just booted into ubuntu 15.10 and it says "i2c i2c-3: i2c-powermac: modalias failure on /u3@0,f8000000/i2c@f8001000/cereal@1c0"
[01:36] <dgh123> I GTG. Goodnight everyone
[01:38] <anonim79> anyone can help me to move taksbar in backbox linux ??
[01:38] <anonim79> i want to move the taksbar to bottom
[01:40] <sansay> hey guys can i install ubuntu over ssh over a fedora install?
[01:41] <XIX> Sazpaimon_: That is way cool, and way beyond my expertise. Microsoft has RemoteFX technology but I'm not sure if there are equivalents of that out there. RDP is probably the best bet. In Windows, I use the built-in Remote Desktop Client and in Linux, I use Remmina.
[01:42] <Ben64> sansay: no
[01:43] <usr13> sansay: A hands on install will be more fun.
[01:43] <sansay> but that means i have to walk to the server :(
[01:43] <sansay> thats just burtal
[01:43] <usr13> OH NO!
[01:43] <sansay> i just sat down lol
[01:43] <SchrodingersScat> image the iso to the swap, boot from that, install
[01:44] <sansay> ya i dont know what that means lol
[01:49] <daftykins> sansay: do you have a separate /boot ?
[01:50] <RudzZ> where does init tab exsist in ubunto?
[01:51] <RudzZ> raspberian OS exactly
[01:51] <Ben64> thats not ubuntu then, so not on topic here
[01:51] <allen> im trying to get ubuntu mate going...is there a room for ubuntu mate?
[01:51] <SuperLag> Is there a way to make Ubuntu use Google {Docs,Sheets,Slides} as the default handlers for those file types, rather than LibreOffice?
[01:52] <RudzZ> where does init tab exists in ubuntu ?
[01:52] <Ben64> allen: what version
[01:52] <Sazpaimon_> I think I'm gonna give splashtop a try
[01:52] <allen> uhhh 15.05
[01:52] <Ben64> RudzZ: try the #raspberrypi channel or if theres a channel for raspberian
[01:52] <Ben64> allen: there is no 15.05....
[01:53] <allen> 15.10
[01:53] <Ben64> allen: you trying to install, whats the issue? ubuntu-mate from 15.04 forward is an official flavor, so you can get support in this channel
[01:53] <zzo38> When I try to print a PCL document to the "HP Laserjet P1102w" printer, the light just blink instead of printing; do you know what is wrong? (I tried to phone them, they couldn't help)
[01:54] <RudzZ> Ben64: no such channel mate :(
[01:54] <zzo38> The command I used is:   dvilj4 - < texput.dvi | lp
[01:54] <Ben64> RudzZ: #raspberrypi does exist
[01:54] <allen> no i have it installed..i cant find a package manager..like synaptic
[01:54] <Ben64> allen: synaptic isn't installed by default anymore, you can install it if you like, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[01:55] <allen> arhhhhh i can do that
[01:56] <sansay> how do i know which version of ubuntu i need?
[01:56] <RudzZ> Ben64: it says no such channel bro
[01:57] <allen> ok thats done..thanks
[01:58] <allen> is their anyway i can change color of folders like in Linux Mint?
[01:58] <daftykins> sansay: what's your plan for usage?
[01:58] <sansay> its an old computer, i want to learn and setup a web server locally
[01:58] <sansay> so i can test my scripts
[01:58] <sansay> basicalyl learn ubuntu server
[01:58] <daftykins> 14.04 server then
[01:58] <daftykins> always go LTS when you work with server, it means long term support
[01:59] <sansay> ah ok
[01:59] <allen> i have used 14.04 LTS is a good OS
[01:59] <zzo38> Can you tell me why it doesn't print?
[02:00] <daftykins> "it"?
[02:01] <daftykins> oh from above, nope.
[02:03] <parallels> how do I setup the terminus font on urxvt?
[02:04] <zzo38> They told me on the telephone that it does support PCL5 and PCL6, although looking on some other webpages it says it does not support PCL.
[02:05] <zzo38> How do I convert DVI into the format needed by this printer, then?
[02:06] <RudzZ> how can i access the /etc/inittab ?
[02:09] <Unknown_User> Why does mount -t tmpfs -o nr_inodes=0 none mnt_point fail on my Kubuntu 15.10 system, running 4.2.0-16, when it succeeded on my 15.04 system, and it succeeds on my Gentoo systems running 4.2.3 and 4.0.8?
[02:09] <Unknown_User> The error message in dmesg is " tmpfs: Bad value '0' for mount option 'nr_inodes'". But that is clearly a lie because https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt mentions that nr_inodes=0 means unlimited inodes, and has for *ages*.
[02:11] <uthmad> hello guys i am still learning about using ubuntu and i want some headups
[02:11] <uthmad> can anybody help
[02:12] <allen> im new myself
[02:12] <Unknown_User> You should ask your question. If someone can answer it, they will.
[02:14] <allen> is kpatience and kpat the same game?
[02:15] <allen> guess were gonig to find out
[02:16] <zzo38> OK, apparently this printer uses ZjStream format for printing, rather than PCL...why?????
[02:16] <allen> i just had a nightmare installing a samsung laser printer
[02:17] <allen> in mint
[02:17] <gpuddin> the only printers i've had good luck with in linux are brother ones
[02:17] <SchrodingersScat> hp has worked fine for me as well
[02:17] <allen> well Samsung aint worth a sh nickel
[02:18] <gpuddin> hp is USUALLY good unless it's some $50 shit you bought at walmart
[02:18] <SchrodingersScat> !language | !support
[02:19] <allen> this was a samsung laser printer...still had problems..
[02:19] <gpuddin> ey. we'll make it through this.
[02:19] <daftykins> if you stick to the rules, yep
[02:19] <gpuddin> "rules"
[02:19] <daftykins> yep see the topic.
[02:20] <daftykins> don't get a bad attitude, all we want to do is get along and stick to support :)
[02:20] <gpuddin> you need to calm down sir
[02:23] <allen> actually this is going pretty good
[02:23] <allen> i got audacious and audacity going pretty good
[02:24] <allen> any hexchat users online??
[02:24] <allen>  this thing is making noize whenever I type
[02:24] <allen> noise
[02:25] <daftykins> allen: keep it to support please, you can chat over in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:25] <allen> very good..thanks
[02:25] <tlt> allen, hexchat has its own channel even
[02:25] <allen> ahhh thank you
[02:25] <tlt> it used to be well populated
[02:26] <Nectar227> Hi. Im using this workaround for a bug in ubuntu gnone 15.10 [http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/309-ubuntu-dual-display-monitor-position-lost%20Link%20to%20article] but i have another problem: my monitor is spilling out onto the other (see: http://postimg.org/image/9rxtuvvxx/), could anyone help me out? .. I think it is mainly configuration. Thanks..
[02:29] <allen> thanks guys
[02:34] <uthmad> can someone kindly help me on how to get the security code a wireless i am using now
[02:35] <mobus> Nectar227: Is the resolution you've set to your left display a resolution you know it's capable of handling? Also, there should be a selection in the display menu that says "Scale display to match", try a few of those options and see if that fixes anything.
[02:35] <mobus> uthmad: most likely written on your router
[02:36] <uthmad> no its a phone hotspot of a friend but it 2.36am and i do not want to disturb his sleep
[02:37] <chaos7theory> I noticed on the installer it was downloading python-3.4 updates
[02:37] <chaos7theory> The default CPython isn't 3.5?
[02:37] <Nectar227> mobus: Its the correct resolution and no option for "Scale display to match".
[02:45] <AnnaRooks> under what conditions would you want to separate partitions on install?
[02:45] <jin_> hi all
[02:46] <chaos7theory> AnnaRooks, Using an MS-DOS partition table, it needs a partition with a boot flat. In that case, a separate boot partition is usually used
[02:46] <jin_> anyone have issues with ubuntu 15.10?
[02:46] <AnnaRooks> alright, what about / and /home then?
[02:46] <chaos7theory> AnnaRooks, I personally separate / and /home for multiple reasons
[02:47] <Nectar227> maybe nother bug? idk.
[02:47] <chaos7theory> AnnaRooks, the main reason is I may want to switch to a different distro in the future, or more likely want to update it (assuming not a rolling release)
[02:47] <AnnaRooks> ah
[02:48] <chaos7theory> AnnaRooks, It gets tedious to back up all your personal files or maybe Steam games at best, and wastes precious TBW on SDDs at worst
[02:49] <jin_> has anyone installed chrome on wily werewolf?
[02:49] <AnnaRooks> ive never seemed to need a boot partition, even on the msdos table?
[02:49] <chaos7theory> So generally I make the / partition 20-25 GB, and /home for what space remains. I still do a /boot partition as well, ordered in a way that remains constant so that if I need to resise /home or / it doesn't change the starting sector (which could corrupt it)
[02:50] <chaos7theory> I think it's more of a legacy thing from years back, that I'm still used to
[02:51] <chaos7theory> I use GPT partitions even on BIOS anyways, and make a BIOS Boot Partition
[02:51] <Unknown_User> Anyone have any idea why nr_inodes=0 is an invalid mount option in (K)Ubuntu 15.10, but a valid one in 15.04 and a Gentoo system running 4.0 or 4.2 kernels? FWIW, it has been documented to be a valid option for ages: https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt
[02:52] <Unknown_User> Er, that is an invalid mount option for tmpfs filesystems.
[02:52] <Nectar227> anyone awake?
[02:54] <AnnaRooks> i was always afraid of using gpt
[02:55] <Unknown_User> GPT works well for me for my non-boot drives. I use it to assign stable disk names to the drives in my storage array. :) AFAIK, I don't use it on boot drives.
[02:57] <chaos7theory> It works just fine as well so long as the your BIOS supports it, which I believe most do xD
[02:57] <chaos7theory> You just need to make a 2 MB unformatted partition at the beginning of the disk, set in GParted with the flag 'bios_grub'
[02:58] <Unknown_User> Even if it doesn't, I would expect that it works just fine for non-boot disks. :)
[03:00] <AnnaRooks> how does the bios read the partition if its gpt?
[03:00] <chaos7theory> GPT is a standard that isn't necessarily tied to UEFI, it's self-contained
[03:01] <chaos7theory> But the BIOS needs some boot sector to boot off of, hence the need for a BIOS Boot Partition
[03:01] <AnnaRooks> so does the gpt header instruct the bios how to read it?
[03:02] <chaos7theory> I think what GPT does it also keeps a read-only copy of a Master File STable that's backwards compatible so the BIOS can properly read it
[03:03] <chaos7theory> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table#Features
[03:04] <chaos7theory> "..but the bootloader and operating system must both be GPT-aware" Is the catch, but that was only an issue 5 years ago
[03:04] <Unknown_User> chaos7theory, No, I don't think that's correct. EFI needs a FAT(!) partition to store and read the info it needs to load bootloaders or whatever.
[03:04] <Unknown_User> IIRC, you can also have a pure-GPT partition scheme.
[03:04] <chaos7theory> UEFI needs a EFI partition, yes
[03:04] <chaos7theory> But I'm talking strictly GPT on BIOS xD
[03:04] <tlt> Unknown_User, you can. Macs have had that
[03:05] <Unknown_User> tlt, Did they need the tiny FAT partition for EFI, or is that an
[03:05] <Unknown_User> "Intel" thing, or am I totally mistaken about that?
[03:05] <tlt> I don't think so. I'm not sure though.
[03:05] <rww> FAT partition for UEFI is a UEFI thing
[03:05] <rww> like, it's in the UEFI standard
[03:05] <tlt> Perhaps you are right, Unknown_User
[03:06] <chaos7theory> Any computers that adhere to UEFI requires the EFI boot partition by specification
[03:06] <chaos7theory> I never owned a Mac though
[03:07] <chaos7theory> Here's on Apple https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFI_System_partition#Apple.E2.80.93Intel
[03:07] <tlt> this computer was efi set up, but I chose legacy since I'm only going to run linux there anyways
[03:07] <tlt> full disk
[03:08] <skynetuser> This is a test.
[03:08] <chaos7theory> I don't think even on Legacy with GPT the BIOS can read beyond 2 TB anyways
[03:09] <chaos7theory> But I use GPT wherever possible regardless because I no longer have to worry about Primary, Extended, or Logical Partitions
[03:09] <AnnaRooks> so is the efi partition like a list?
[03:10] <chaos7theory> More like that's where the bootloader programs themselves generally are, though apparently Apple doesn't use it as such
[03:10] <chaos7theory> So if you know GRUB, on GRUB 2 it'll copy itself onto the partition and that's the initial step taken to starting everything up after POST
[03:11] <tlt> chaos7theory, there's only a 128gb ssd in this machine so it's no problem
[03:11] <Neccy227> I have this problem [http://askubuntu.com/questions/450767/multi-display-issue-with-ubuntu-gnome-14-04] and tried this [http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/74-ubuntu/309-ubuntu-dual-display-monitor-position-lost%20Link%20to%20article]  but its not working, anyone?
[03:12] <chaos7theory> tlt, Yeah, that's no problem, I just use it out of personal choice xD
[03:12] <crshman> hey all, i'm having an issue with one of my monitors not staying lit consistently. I notice that it only happens once the login prompt shows up
[03:12] <tlt> gotcha, yeah I've had huge drives too, but here I don't have that problem
[03:12] <crshman> this is a dual monitor setup
[03:12] <tlt> then I try keep it as simple as possible.
[03:12] <crshman> bios and boot messages are mirrored on both screens, but once the login prompt hits one shuts off
[03:13] <crshman> i'm assuming this is probably an issue with lightdm?
[03:13] <crshman> i'm running 15.10
[03:13] <alphaseg> crshman: ati videocard ?
[03:13] <chaos7theory> I've never even seen anything beyond 1 TB personally, and that's on an external drive
[03:13] <crshman> alphaseg: intel
[03:13] <chaos7theory> I wish I had a 1 TB SSD, but still even till today they're so expensive 'w'
[03:14] <crshman> the screen flickers on and off after logging in and when it flickers on i can see the desktop, windows and the clock running
[03:14] <tlt> I've had three 2tb drives, not ssd though
[03:16] <EMPHASIS> Wine was hijacked my nautilus bookmarks! How do I fix it?
[03:16] <crshman> here is some system hw output: https://gist.github.com/rnavarro/33f11f31903942ede294
[03:20] <EMPHASIS> 'wine' has hijacked my 'Bookmarks'. how do I fix it?
[03:22] <uthmad> hello
[03:22] <uthmad> can someone kindly help me on uninstalling a program on ubuntu
[03:24] <EMPHASIS> uthmad: sudo apt-get remove <name>
[03:24] <quest9> ask..
[03:24] <quest9> dual boot linux and windows 7. linux first.. than windows.
[03:24] <Zeioth> uthmad you can do it from the software center
[03:24] <Zeioth> choose your application and click uninstall
[03:25] <hamsterpower> good evening, how do I undo this "export ORACLE_HOME=$(pwd)/instantclient_11_2"?
[03:26] <EMPHASIS> hamsterpower: check your .bashrc
[03:26] <uthmad> thanks @all for helping me
[03:27] <Zeioth> export is a command to define a global variable
[03:27] <EMPHASIS>  'wine' has hijacked my 'Bookmarks'. how do I fix it?
[03:27] <hamsterpower> EMPHASIS: do I cd into .bashrc?
[03:27] <Zeioth> if you know the previous value you can restore it: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/07/linux-export-command-examples/
[03:27] <hamsterpower> Zeioth: there was no previous value I think
[03:28] <Zeioth> then try "unset ORACLE_HOME"
[03:28] <EMPHASIS> hamsterpower: .bashrc is a hidden file in your home directory (because it starts with a '.'). Open a terminal (it should start in your home directory), and type gedit .bashrc   Then see if it contains the export command.
[03:28] <Zeioth> that will delete the global variable
[03:29] <EMPHASIS> Zeioth: thanks for helping hamsterpower.
[03:30] <hamsterpower> thank you Zeioth and EMPHASIS
[03:30] <hamsterpower> sometimes, I think there are angels
[03:30] <hamsterpower> :)
[03:30] <Zeioth> you too emphasis
[03:30] <Zeioth> glad to help
[03:33] <EMPHASIS> 'wine' has hijacked my 'Bookmarks'. how do I fix it?
[03:35] <EMPHASIS> When I click on Places -> then a bookmark, a Wine dialog opens and says it cannot run the command. WTF? Help, anybody?
[03:36] <hamsterpower> is Places an app?
[03:37] <EMPHASIS> hamsterpower: I'm using Gnome Classic interface, not the Unity interface. It's beside the Applications menu in the Classic interface.
[03:39] <hamsterpower> EMPHASIS: have you already checked this link? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/wine-hijacked-my-file-associations-4175531100/
[03:39] <EMPHASIS> hamsterpower: Places contains a list of shortcuts for Nautilus. But somehow (I don't know how) these shortcuts have been hijacked by the Wine (Windows Emulator).
[03:41] <hamsterpower> This is beyond my knowledge :/
[03:43] <chaos7theory> Is enabling discard on mount for Ubuntu still a (performance) problem as of 15.10
[03:43] <chaos7theory> ?*
[03:54] <chaos7theory> Well that's a weird, hilarious bug
[03:55] <chaos7theory> On Ubuntu Software Center, instead of the progress bar, it's literally the swirling bars icon statically moving to the right
[03:56] <Neccy320> How would i make this command run every time i login on startup. maybe afer a 5 second delay... : "xrandr --delmode DP1 1280x1024"?
[03:57] <chaos7theory> Startup Applications
[03:57] <chaos7theory> Neccy320, That's the most convenient way
[03:58] <Neccy320> chaos7theory:Ive tried adding it in startup applications as a command, but nothing happends on startup.
[03:58] <reisio> Neccy320: might need to make it DISPLAY=:0 xrandr...
[03:58] <chaos7theory> What is it meant to do?
[03:58] <reisio> or otherwise set DISPALY (from ps aux | grep X output, the #)
[03:58] <reisio> s/DISPALY/DISPLAY
[03:59] <chaos7theory> I think that's it
[04:00] <Neccy320> reisio: so these would work: 'DISPLAY=:0 xrandr' or 'set DISPALY (from ps aux | grep X output, the #) s/DISPALY/DISPLAY'
[04:00] <Rexter1> does anyone know? I have a 15.10 machine. Every time it suspends, when it comes back up the webcam light is on. It stays on until I reboot, or if I open cheese, and close it again, the light goes off. Who's watching me? Is it one of you? :)
[04:01] <wileee> yeah, put in a hat
[04:01] <wileee> on*
[04:02] <mentoc> The NSA likes to idle on your cams
[04:02] <Neccy320> reisio: could you check them using your expertise so i can go ahead and test them out
[04:03] <Rexter1> correction, not 15.10, 15.04 machine.
[04:03] <reisio> Neccy320: DISPLAY="$(ps -up "$(pgrep -x X)" | egrep -o 'X :[0-9]{1}' | cut -d ':' -f 2)" xrandr…
[04:03] <Neccy320> reisio: Thanks, Ill give that a shot
[04:04] <Neccy320> reisio: with the "..."?
[04:04] <reisio> though it will almost always just be '0'
[04:04] <reisio> Neccy320: whoops
[04:05] <reisio> Neccy320: DISPLAY=:"$(ps -up "$(pgrep -x X)" | egrep -o 'X :[0-9]{1}' | cut -d ':' -f 2)" xrandr…
[04:05] <reisio> need that colon
[04:05] <Neccy320> reisio: do i need the "..." at the end (noob alert)
[04:06] <reisio> no, replace that with the rest of your original xrandr command
[04:07] <Neccy320> reisio: sorry. confused..
[04:08] <Neccy320> reisio: http://pastebin.com/91CSkqHG
[04:08] <Neccy320> would that work?
[04:09] <reisio> looks good
[04:09] <Neccy320> bbl
[04:14] <Neccy320> Still not running on startup
[04:15] <Neccy320> should i try "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --delmode VGA1 1680x1050"
[04:16] <Neccy320> Is it possible to run this type of command on startup?
[04:21] <Neccy320> By running  "xrandr --delmode VGA1 1680x1050" refreshes by display and fixes my problem, but i want it to run on startup so its automatic, maybe after a 5 second delay. How would i do this?
[04:22] <amicrawler> i need help getting my wifi drivers working can any body help me please
[04:23] <amicrawler> i have a lenova g50 amd A8 cpu
[04:23] <amicrawler> running ubunut 15.10
[04:25] <wileee> amicrawler, You will have to identify the wifi hardware, run lspci and look for, I think this is it, rtl8723be confirm the hardware to the channel.
[04:27] <amicrawler> i have rtl811
[04:27] <amicrawler> 8111
[04:27] <amicrawler> ethernet qualcomm atheros
[04:28] <wileee> amicrawler, what ever it is that is the most important info you need, here and googling, nothing I can directly help with though.
[04:28] <wileee> !rtl811
[04:28] <wileee> thought the bot might know
[04:29] <wileee> !qualcom
[04:29] <amicrawler> where do i find the rt8723be driver
[04:29] <wileee> amicrawler, I think you need to download it and have a wrapper, not a friendly easy job if this is the case, but good help when you need it.
[04:30] <amicrawler> all i can find is the exe
[04:30] <amicrawler> not the inf or zip file
[04:30] <wileee> amicrawler, you would want the driver suggested for you hardware, not sure if you're askin about rt8723be cause I mentioned it.
[04:31] <amicrawler> yes looking for it
[04:31] <easyOnMe> what command shall I use in the terminal to mind symfony on my linux laptop
[04:31] <Neccy217> "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --delmode VGA1 1680x1050" doent do anything once added to startup applications as a commands. What am i doing wrong :S
[04:31] <Neccy217> "xrandr --delmode VGA1 1680x1050" works in terminal
[04:32] <Neccy217> just need to to run every time i sartup
[04:32] <reisio> Neccy217: ps aux | grep X says 'X :0'?
[04:32] <Neccy217> reisio: whats that?
[04:33] <Bork> Guys, I have a weird problem. Anyone around?
[04:33] <johnny_linux> all 1659 of us are not here Bork
[04:33] <Bork> Excellent.
[04:33] <agent_white> amicrawler: `lspci -k` - Look in that output for "network controller" ... and "wifi".  In that chunk of text, look for the "Kernel modules:" line. It should show the driver needed. That same driver should be shown on the above line, "Kernel driver in use:" if it is loaded.
[04:33] <agent_white> amicrawler: Check that output. And let us know what it says. Or if you have questions.
[04:34] <Bork> [15.04] Clean install on an SSD working great for 3 months BUT on 1st and subsequent startups today, "Checking media [Fail]" happens 2x before loading Ubuntu. And, oddly, the system fonts/launcher icon sizes all changed even though the settings stayed the same. And an Unknown: Unknown device appears.
[04:34] <Bork> I can't believe these three issues would **all** be related, but them occurring at the exact same time is... confounding.  Under Software and Updates --> Additonal Drivers, there was originally only one device listed, the laptop's Radeon R6, with three choices available. But now there's another device, "Unknown: Unknown". It is detailed that "This device is using an alternate driver." with two options to select:  "Using Processor micro
[04:34] <Bork>  from amd64-microcode (proprietary)  Do not use this device"  ...what in the hell is going on here? Why is this seeing my processor (?) as an unknown device? Why did, instead of booting right from the SSD, did the BIOS magically decide to start "Checking media"? Why the hell are the system fonts different?
[04:36] <amicrawler> dont see wifi
[04:36] <Neccy217> reisio: can this be done?
[04:37] <Bork> anyone have any ideas? :(
[04:38] <Bork> Anyone? :(
[04:38] <bairui> long shot but gonna ask anyway: Can I connect two independent VGA monitors to my onboard intel graphics adapter, one through the vga port and the other through the dvi-d port using a dvi-vga adapter? My gut says: don't be stupid. But...
[04:39] <reisio> Neccy217: yup
[04:39] <Bork> Why would the system fonts just change randomly?
[04:40] <CyberTails> Hello There, I'm trying to set up my WiFi on 15.10, I put it my WPA Key and it doesn't accept it and spits back out the Authentication Window (and yes I typed the key correctly)
[04:40] <Neccy217> reisio: what if i add "xrandr --delmode VGA1 1680x1050" in "/etc/rc.local"?
[04:40] <Neccy217> reisio: possible?
[04:43] <reisio> Neccy217: X starts much later
[04:43] <reisio> you probably want to use GNOME's autostart stuff
[04:44] <reisio> if it uses ~/.config/autostart/, you can copy a .desktop file in there and swap the command
[04:50] <mekhami> so I just tried to upgrade to 15.04 using do_release_update
[04:50] <mekhami> and now I've got a kernel panic on boot.
[04:50] <mekhami> thisis fun,
[04:52] <Ben64> mekhami: 15.04 from what?
[04:52] <mekhami> 14.04
[04:52] <Ben64> not possible
[04:52] <mekhami> k
[04:52] <mekhami> i'm glad you think so
[04:52] <mekhami> my computer screen says otherwise
[04:52] <Ben64> i know so? 14.04 can upgrade to 14.10 or 16.04 only
[04:53] <Ben64> and 16.04 isn't out yet
[04:53] <mekhami> k
[04:53] <mekhami> i'm glad you think so
[04:53] <Ben64> it's not debatable, its a fact
[04:54] <mekhami> then i suggest you take a look at do_release_update and figure out why I went from 14.04 to 15.04
[05:08] <adam646> Hello all.  New user here.
[05:14] <Neccy320> reisio: No luck.. http://pastebin.com/aRzgfBAC
[05:28] <rowan> hello can someone help me with dual gpu  setup.
[05:30] <Neccy320_> Created a startup item and it still wont run the command (http://pastebin.com/W3VACRgJ). Help
[05:35] <Neccy320_> (Ignore the name on the file)
[05:36] <r0nn> Hi guys, i'm trying to set up ubuntu on a new gt72s 6qe and it keeps freezing at the login screen. Same in recovery mode, can't any option. I think I have to set up nvidia driver but since i can't log in or get into a cmd line I don't know what to do. I couldnt install via chroot as the installer doesn't recognize the gc. Any idea ?
[05:37] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset | r0nn
[05:37] <cfhowlett> ubottu?
[05:38] <amicrawler> ok need help installing driver ubunut 15
[05:38] <amicrawler> wifi
[05:38] <r0nn> yes i had to boot the live cd with nomodeset to succeed the install
[05:38] <cfhowlett> !wifi | amicrawler
[05:38] <amicrawler> card is a atheros
[05:38] <r0nn> but after installation it freezes on the first login screen
[05:39] <amicrawler> im try the oem drivers from windows will not let me
[05:39] <amicrawler> from my drvers .inf files
[05:39] <amicrawler> said hardware not present
[05:41] <amicrawler> using the netathrx.inf
[05:41] <amicrawler> said hardware not present
[05:41] <amicrawler> but that is from my own windows8 driver back up
[05:42] <r0nn> even booting on the fresh install with nomodeset gives me the frozen login screen
[05:42] <amicrawler> am i doing something wrong here
[05:44] <baizon> r0nn: im booting with the "noplymouth", working for me then
[05:44] <r0nn> baizon, thanks will look in that direction
[05:48] <mrquackers00> hello. first time in ubuntu support irc and was looking for some advice about a few lines of code in a script im putting together. the script as a whole is a gui install/uninstall automator. where im getting stuck is properly removing the unity gui while retaining its extra packages. everytime i think i uninstall it i reboot and it goes right into the desktop like normal. It will be for 12.04 desktop version. there isnt another gui
[05:48] <mrquackers00> installed when trying to remove and not sure if this is my issue or if it's the commands im using. I have my research links and a screen of my code-in-question ready to go. if you think you can assist pm me (dont want to flood the channel...as i said i dont know how busy this channel is)
[05:50] <r0nn> baizon, noplymouth gives me same result. But i'm still seeing the login screen, is it normal ?
[05:51] <r0nn> ah yes, i mixed up splash screen and login screen. So I'm still stuck on a frozen login screen
[06:05] <ztane> after upgrade to wily, unity gets stuck, as if it just rendered one frame of graphics and stopped;
[06:05] <ztane> even switch to vt1 takes 30 seconds.
[06:06] <ztane> at the moment there are 2 windows open, one from update notifier, and one from apport; and the apport window is partially transparent
[06:06] <ztane> and I cannot do absolutely anything in unity, any ideas how to debug?
[06:07] <ztane> rebooted 5 times and still stuck at this
[06:13] <ztane> mouse cursor moves but nothing reacts to it.
[06:14] <ztane> if I ctrl-alt-f1 and return, then I see some effect
[06:14] <ztane> but I still cannot interact
[06:18] <kalimero> Is it possible to sync two folders for both ways? e.g. if i change file X in folder1 it will be synced to folder2 but if i change file X again in folder2 it will be synced to folder1
[06:20] <agent_white> kalimero: Both on the same host. Or two different hosts?
[06:21] <kalimero> agent_white: same host
[06:21] <cfhowlett> fego, choose ONE nick and stick with it please.
[06:22] <agent_white> kalimero: Probably best just to use rsync!
[06:23] <kalimero> agent_white: i already use it but only for one direction and dont know how to set it up for both
[06:25] <ztane> cnt'd: I have the msg box window "System program error detected" or similar, I do not want to report, so I try to click on cancel, nothing happens, enter does nothing, clicking on any of the icons on the launch bar does nothing
[06:27] <agent_white> kalimero: For instance `rsync -a --delete /tmp/a /tmp/b`.  Files are synced, including deletions persisting across both directores. -- Though CAUTION!!! -- Don't use this directly and blindly. "--dry-run" to test it out, and it would be in your best interest to read through the rsync man pages.
[06:27] <agent_white> kalimero: But... to shorten it up - rsync has this ability. Do some research into it.
[06:29] <ztane> now done: compiz configs resetted from everywhere where I could find them
[06:29] <ztane> - no luck
[06:31] <kalimero> agent_white: ok thanks i will look into it again more carefully.
[06:32] <agent_white> kalimero: Just test it on two "test" folders first, and ensure what you desire is happening.
[06:32] <agent_white> Before applying it to folders with contents you rely upon.
[06:33] <kalimero> agent_white: thanks for the warning but that was my plan anyway ^^
[06:39] <kalimero> agent_white: just -a --delete isn't doing what i want. i deleted a file in folder b but after rsync it wasnt delete in folder a but copied back from folder a to b
[06:45] <bekks> kalimero: thats exactly whats supposed to happen.
[06:46] <bekks> kalimero: rsync -a --delete a/ b/ -- and deleting stuff in b/ -- this stuff will be "restored" since you are syncing from a/ to b/ and the stuff still exists in a/
[06:46] <kalimero> bekks: obviously but not what i am trying to achive. i want a two-way sync but it seems not possible with rsync
[06:46] <bekks> rsync isnt capable of two way sync.
[06:47] <bekks> Use unison for two-way sync.
[06:47] <kalimero> bekks: do you know the differences between unison and csync?
[06:48] <ztane> with lxdm I got unity "working", at least mouse works but no launch bar, menu bar, window decorations
[06:50] <bekks> kalimero: I never heard of cysnc, sorry
[06:51] <bekks> ztane: Did you try lightdm?
[06:53] <ztane> bekks: yes, lightdm originally (my all msgs are of this same problem whihc has not progressed at all)
[06:53] <vadgeayna> is there a better language than tickle?
[06:53] <cfhowlett> vadgeayna, english?
[06:59] <vadgeayna> cfhowlett:no tickle the programming language
[07:01] <cfhowlett> vadgeayna, "better than"?  no way to answer that sensibly.  you're asking "what is the best flavor?"  best = what you know proficiently.
[07:01] <vadgeayna> well i love tickle the programming language
[07:01] <vadgeayna> it tickles me fancy
[07:01] <cfhowlett> so use it
[07:02] <ztane> ok now it works, don't know which of these did it, but I had previously reinstalled lightdm/unity/ubuntu-desktop without success, so I had installed lxdm, then used it, after it no luck; then I uninstalled lxdm, then basically dpkg-reconfigured everything compiz*, lightdm, ubuntu-desktop, everything possibly related to it and now it seems to be working after restarting the lightdm again, without any boots.
[07:14] <bekks> ztane: Can you elaborate on "no success"?
[07:17] <b00s3d> hi
[07:17] <vadgeayna> anyone else prefer bareback?
[07:17] <b00s3d> is there any replacement of itunes or any other software that is able to reset the iphone ?
[07:20] <xPax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12913659/
[07:21] <uwily> hi.
[07:23] <xPax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12913659/
[07:23] <xPax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12913659/
[07:27] <nglpx1> Hi, how is it possible that 4.2 kernel doesn't include wireless drivers??
[07:30] <baizon> nglpx1: it includes
[07:32] <nglpx1> there is no wireless directory in the /lib/modules/4.2.0-16-generic/kernel subtree
[07:33] <baizon> nglpx1: it is for me
[07:33] <thuruv> hello. . I'm freshly installing 15.10. . After selecting the timezone/keyboard layout the cursor is still loading for nearly 20mins and no installation prompt happen. . Please help .. did I do anything wrong. .
[07:34] <nglpx1> beizon: which path?
[07:34] <baizon> nglpx1: /lib/modules/4.2.0-16-generic/kernel/net/wireless
[07:34] <thuruv> anybody can help me. .?
[07:35] <nglpx1> I haven't!!
[07:36] <nglpx1> and there isn't in the package
[07:37] <baizon> nglpx1: you got the linux image extra?
[07:37] <baizon> and headers?
[07:37] <thuruv> Thanks for the help. . Its done. .
[07:38] <baizon> thuruv: np :)
[07:39] <nglpx1> beizon: no, I am installing now..
[07:41] <lesamourai> hi, what would be channel name to create 15.10 device instance?
[07:42] <bekks> lesamourai: What do you mean?
[07:43] <lesamourai> to create 15.04 emulator channel option is given as --channel=ubuntu-touch/vivid/proposed , i was looking for channel name to get15.10
[07:45] <mogaj> I am trying to use ZTE MF825A model 4G modem on ubuntu 15.04, but i am not able to. Any pointers please
[07:45] <bekks> lesamourai: whats an "emulator channel"?
[07:47] <lesamourai> to create ubuntu touch emulator we have to specify --channel flag , channel flag specifies version of ubuntu
[07:47] <baizon> mogaj: http://krblogs.com/post/62519969772/airtel-4g-lte-on-linux
[07:47] <bekks> lesamourai: Did you ask in #ubuntu-touch yet?
[07:47] <lesamourai> i did
[07:47] <lesamourai> noanswer there yet , thought someone in here might know
[07:51] <lesamourai> is ubuntu phone related queries ever talked in here?
[07:51] <baizon> lesamourai: not really
[07:51] <lesamourai> i see
[08:07] <Guest27270> hi i need a notebook for my office use; where the IT manager gave me HP Pavilion 15 notebook and i've so many issues with it especially with its graphics interface (Nvidia GeForce 840M) and I need a ubuntu console.. so which notebook recommended for ubuntu?
[08:08] <AnTeNnA> I really dig my dell XPS
[08:08] <cfhowlett> Dell Developer Edition has 13 and 15 inch models.
[08:10] <Guest27270> yeah i've seen it but Dell XPS are without ethernet interfaces... :)
[08:11] <robot_programmer> Guys any want to try a game chat via pm because i am need tester for this i am make for ubuntu
[08:12] <Guest27270> pm?
[08:12] <robot_programmer> Private message= private chat
[08:13] <nglpx1> robot_programmer, it's a crypted chat?
[08:13] <islandmonkey> How can I stop X from creating a xorg.conf file?
[08:13] <bekks> islandmonkey: Why do you want to stop it?
[08:14] <uwily> hi.
[08:14] <robot_programmer> The game are for chat example you are on skype and you wait an important call and this game are for kill wait time
[08:14] <nglpx1> X doesn't create a xorg.conf
[08:15] <islandmonkey> bekks: I tried to clean install Ubuntu 15.10 with an optimus setup, so after installation I installed the propertiary nvidia-352-updates along with bumblebee and so on
[08:15] <uwily> what is the best app to monitor/configure wifi ?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> uwily, for "l33t" users: terminal.  for mere mortals: network manager applet
[08:16] <nglpx1> I have no xorg.conf
[08:17] <islandmonkey> When I come to boot, I fall back into failsafe mode and the Xorg log complains that "Undefined Screen "nvidia" referenced by ServerLayout "layout"
[08:17] <islandmonkey> These files seemed to have been created when X started up after I had to reboot for something
[08:18] <uwily> cfhowlett: i try iwconfig, but it show incorrect bitrate.
[08:18] <islandmonkey> nglpx1: That's the thing, it shouldn't need to exist
[08:18] <robot_programmer> nglpx1 i am send you private chat
[08:19] <nglpx1> robot_programmer, why?
[08:19] <robot_programmer> For try my game
[08:20] <nglpx1> islandmonkey, did you try to remove or rename it?
[08:20] <nglpx1> robot_programmer, I don't like games :)
[08:20] <cfhowlett> !pm | robot_programmer
[08:21] <islandmonkey> Let me try and remove it again, but this morning was my second clean install in 24 hours and I had tried removing it on that setup
[08:21] <islandmonkey> It simply created itself again upon boot
[08:21] <robot_programmer> Is simple game my problem is resolve At 90%
[08:21] <vvk_yugasa> hi
[08:22] <vvk_yugasa> Can anyone of the gurus present here help me on apt-get update
[08:22] <vvk_yugasa> I am getting a variety of errors while using this command
[08:22] <vvk_yugasa> sometimes it says "Hash Sum mismatch"
[08:22] <vvk_yugasa> sometimes it gives BADSIG error
[08:22] <islandmonkey> brb, gotta restart
[08:22] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, paste the errors.  Ms. Cleo has retired and we don't like guessing.
[08:22] <Guest27270> @islandmonkey, i'm having issue with nvidia G3Force 840M installation in ubuntu 14
[08:23] <Guest27270> moreover, I"ve heard that xorg.conf no more used in ubuntu 15.x
[08:23] <Guest27270> any idea?
[08:23] <vvk_yugasa> sure.. I'll paste the error cfhowlett.. wont leave you guessing for long
[08:24] <vvk_yugasa> here:
[08:24] <vvk_yugasa> W: GPG error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com trusty Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com> W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-updates_main_binary-amd64_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch  W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty-
[08:25] <Guest27270> [13:22] <Guest27270> @islandmonkey, i'm having issue with nvidia G3Force 840M installation in ubuntu 14 [13:23] <Guest27270> moreover, I"ve heard that xorg.conf no more used in ubuntu 15.x [13:23] <Guest27270> any idea?
[08:25] <islandmonkey> Back and nope, it just recreated itself after boot after deleting it
[08:26] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-the-ubuntu-gpg-error-badsig.html/comment-page-1
[08:26] <Guest27270> yeah same i noticed
[08:26] <Guest27270> so have you found any way forward?
[08:26] <nglpx1> vvk_yugasa, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1480604&highlight=apt-get+signature
[08:26] <islandmonkey> *ponders over the amount of problems that involved graphics in the four years of using Linux*
[08:26] <Guest27270> moreover, i've tried all drivers available but in vain!
[08:27] <Guest27270> from the nvidia provided official drivers and even the ppa repos nvidia-340
[08:27] <islandmonkey> The xorg.conf file just needs to stop creating itself, and things would be okay
[08:27] <Guest27270> have you tried removing xconf.org
[08:27] <Guest27270> ?
[08:27] <islandmonkey> Yes and it recreates itself after a reboot
[08:28] <Guest27270> hmm.. did you check the logs
[08:28] <Guest27270> which process is creating this file?
[08:29] <islandmonkey> How can I check what application is creating the file?
[08:30] <vvk_yugasa> Thanks cfhowlett.. that sure will help
[08:30] <Guest27270> from the user created that file and when created... check in the logs etc
[08:30] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, happy2help!  I've had to deal with that one once or twice.
[08:31] <mady> hello friends is it possible to create access point on ubuntu as to share wired connection wirelessly ?
[08:31] <islandmonkey> Guest27270: The root user created the file
[08:32] <cfhowlett> !ics | mady
[08:32] <Guest27270> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743535
[08:32] <mady> want to connect android
[08:33] <vvk_yugasa> cfhowlett... any solution for "Hash Sum Mismatch" error?
[08:33] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, IIRC that has to be fixed by the package maintainer.
[08:33] <Guest27270> http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/forums/t/549534/nvidia-drivers-how-to-install-it-in-ubuntu-14041204/
[08:34] <vvk_yugasa> more pointers pls cfhowlett
[08:34] <vvk_yugasa> I am very new to ubuntu and dont know what IIRC is
[08:34] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, every package has a manager/maintainer.  contact that person
[08:34] <cfhowlett> If I Recall Correctly
[08:35] <lettuce45> hi
[08:36] <lettuce45> i upgraded to 15.10: minimize, maximize and close icons are no longer anywhere to be seen
[08:37] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, for example: the audacity package page:  see the maintainer information
[08:37] <cfhowlett> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/audacity
[08:48] <islandmonkey> *sigh*
[08:49] <vvk_yugasa> cfhowlett... this is the biggest pain right now "W: Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'restricted/source/Sources' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)"
[08:49]  * Nicole_Sharp wonders what there is to sigh about in the wonderful banana-filled life of an island monkey?
[08:49] <vvk_yugasa> Please help resolving this
[08:49] <islandmonkey> I just want my frickin' graphics to work, all it needs is for the Xorg.conf file to not exist and for it to not be recreated upon boot
[08:49] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, try a different software mirror
[08:49] <vvk_yugasa> pls tell how to do that
[08:50] <vvk_yugasa> how to use different software mirror
[08:50] <cfhowlett> system > software updater > settings > software sources
[08:50] <Mythic> I am trying to setup a desktop environment to my liking. Something like Linux Mint's Cinnamon desktop would be FANTASTIC. I'm trying Gnome Flashback (Metacity) presently, but am thus far unable to get certain things the way I would like them. I've spent two days trying to find solutions, to no avail. I've considered switching to Cinnamon (while remaining on Ubuntu 14.04), but I fear an update will cause problems in the future. Any suggestions on how to configur
[08:50] <Mythic> e Metacity (or where to find a solid PPA for CInnamon) are highly welcome. Here is a screen shot of my desktop as it is currently: https://i.imgur.com/ifrq4NV.jpg
[08:50] <Mythic> Sorry about the length of my query.
[08:50] <Nicole_Sharp> I have been having my own graphics problems here.  Dunno what to do about meself.
[08:50] <loa> i have strange glitch in my ubuntu 15.04 with xexchat, text sometimes glitching very ugly... always last string in window, maybe somebody had such glitch and have a solution for this?
[08:50] <loa> hexchat *
[08:51] <nglpx1> vvk_yugasa, you have to modify /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:51] <Nicole_Sharp> I like XFCE for both Ubuntu and Mint
[08:51] <vvk_yugasa> what exactly to modify in sources.list nglpx1
[08:51] <ev1l_> knok knok
[08:51] <ev1l_> is anyone online >
[08:51] <ev1l_> ?
[08:52] <cfhowlett> !ask | ;ev
[08:52] <cfhowlett> ev1l_, ^^
[08:52] <Guest13908> ciao a tutti
[08:52] <nglpx1> vvk_yugasa, ask on internet how to change repository, there are many examples
[08:52] <ev1l_> i need some help with my wifi adptor
[08:52] <islandmonkey> I tried to upgrade to 15.10 automatically and Xorg completely screwed up and kept segfaulting, then I clean installed and the current problem occurred, tried to clean install for a second time in 24 hours and arrives with the same problem
[08:52] <islandmonkey> Bloody optimus
[08:52] <Guest13908> !list
[08:53] <ev1l_> i said i need some help
[08:53] <vvk_yugasa> nglpx1 I have done once and the error goes.. but it comes again on subsequent use of apt-get update
[08:53] <Mythic> Can anyone help me?
[08:53] <Mythic> Will*
[08:53] <islandmonkey> !it | Guest13908
[08:53] <cfhowlett> !ask | Mythic
[08:53] <Mythic> ubottu Silence, bot
[08:53] <ev1l_> i have do update and dist upgrade and do some tips from google but all fail
[08:54] <xieyi> i just upgraded to ubuntu 15.10 and cant get my
[08:54] <xieyi> desktp
[08:55] <xieyi> how could i detect the problem
[08:58] <ubuntu-mate83315> supp
[08:58] <nglpx1> vvk_yugasa, put the output in http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[08:58] <xieyi> how could i detect the problem my laptop has integrate card
[08:59] <xieyi> ok
[09:01] <elcot_> irssi
[09:02] <Seveas> xchat
[09:02] <Seveas> or hexchat
[09:02] <cfhowlett> xchat is unsupported and specifically recommended by the developers to be avoided.  hexchat is the replacement
[09:03] <Seveas> cfhowlett: intriguing. Since when?
[09:03] <vvk_yugasa> nglpx1: done
[09:03] <vvk_yugasa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914180/
[09:03] <Seveas> I haven't used either in ages, switched to irssi :)
[09:03] <cfhowlett> Seveas, 2010 or thereabouts
[09:04] <cfhowlett> Seveas, 2012 https://hexchat.github.io/news/announcement.html
[09:04] <vvk_yugasa> cfhowlett, can you please help on http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914180/
[09:05] <Mythic> Now my speaker icon is gone. How do I get it back (Gnome Metacity)?
[09:06] <Mythic> Problem after problem
[09:06] <nglpx1> vvk_yugasa, there is a malformed line in your source.list, paste it
[09:07] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, will try.  as I read it, you have an error on your "restricted" repo settings.  do this:    cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep restricted | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:07] <cfhowlett> and paste the url here
[09:07] <Mythic> Can anyone SEE my text here?
[09:07] <agent_white> Mythic: Tes.
[09:07] <Mythic> Thank you. At least I know I exist
[09:08] <agent_white> cfhowlett: Oh wow! Had no idea xchat is deprecated!
[09:08] <agent_white> !ping
[09:08] <cfhowlett> agent_white, nor do the ubuntu teams apparently.
[09:08] <vvk_yugasa> here it is cfhowlett: http://termbin.com/s5wm
[09:08] <agent_white> Mythic: Try the command I just did next time... at least here. "!ping"
[09:09] <Mythic> My audio doesn't work anymore
[09:09] <agent_white> cfhowlett: Hahaha.
[09:09] <Mythic> I got the icon back in the "taskbar"
[09:09] <Mythic> But no sound
[09:09] <agent_white> cfhowlett: Lucky for me, irssi will always and forever be deprecated/up-to-date/working-as-intended. ;P
[09:09] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, did you edit your sources?
[09:10] <vvk_yugasa> nglpx1... http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914227/ this is my source.list file
[09:11] <vvk_yugasa> cfhowlett, I used "sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty" " this command
[09:11] <vvk_yugasa> I believe this might have edited my source.list file
[09:12] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, (took me years to figure this one out) you might want to localize your repo soruces.  you are currently set to main repos ... in London.  unless you are in the UK, you will likely get better results.
[09:12] <Mythic> Fixed sound
[09:12] <Mythic> Thank the gods
[09:13] <vvk_yugasa> so cfhowlett, how do I change my repo sources?  In Software and Updates do I need to change the server?
[09:13] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, under "download from" there's a switch to "select best server"
[09:15] <vvk_yugasa> ok cfhowlett... doing that. Also can you pls check my source.list file http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914227/
[09:15] <vvk_yugasa> Can you pls check and let me know if it is ok or not
[09:15] <islandmonkey> Okay, so even if I remove the nvidia drivers, xorg.conf is still recreated with the same error
[09:16] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, looks legit
[09:16] <vvk_yugasa> ok
[09:16] <vvk_yugasa> the best server it chose for me is honk kong...
[09:16] <vvk_yugasa> I am located in India
[09:16] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa,  and you are in ???
[09:16] <Mythic> How do I get the System Updater to show in taskbar in Gnome Metacity DE?
[09:16] <Mythic> I can't even find the program in my Menu
[09:16] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, try it
[09:16] <vvk_yugasa> running the update command again
[09:16] <Mythic> Eidt Menu either
[09:17] <vvk_yugasa> will let you know the results
[09:17] <Mythic> Edit*
[09:17] <Mythic> Not that I expect an answer. Just thinking out loud in here
[09:17] <cfhowlett> resist that impulse
[09:17] <islandmonkey> daftykins: Are you active?
[09:17] <vvk_yugasa> cfhowlett... still the same error :(
[09:18] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, ok.  wait 1
[09:18] <Mythic> Anyone know WHAT Metacity is?
[09:18] <nglpx1> cfhowlett, metacity is a window manager
[09:18] <cfhowlett> Mythic, this ^^^
[09:18] <nglpx1> Mythic, metacity is a window manager
[09:18] <Mythic> We have a winner. Cool. Ever used it? Anyone know how to configure it?
[09:18] <Promille> Today was a big milestone for me. I ran do-release-upgrade AND my sytem booted fine afterwards xD
[09:18] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, rebuild your software sources list with http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/index.php
[09:19] <Mythic> Con fig ure?
[09:19] <Mythic> Configure means "setup.
[09:19] <Mythic> I need System Updater in the menu bar
[09:19] <Mythic> I need to "set" it "up"
[09:20] <Mythic> Is there a better Ubuntu channel for Desktop queries?
[09:20] <vvk_yugasa> ok cfhowlett
[09:20] <bestio> ciao a tutti
[09:20] <Seveas> Mythic: not for obsolete metacity
[09:21] <Mythic> Seveas: Too bad. How about Cinnamon?
[09:21] <Mythic> Since Linux Mint has it right in the DE department at lease
[09:21] <Mythic> t
[09:21] <Seveas> try a mint channel
[09:21] <Seveas> !mint
[09:21] <cfhowlett> yep.  to mint with you then
[09:21] <curiousx> Hello, i'm trying to install "bspwm" but can't, i think i need to generate a .xinitrc file, can someone help me with that ?
[09:21] <Mythic> Nice. Okay. Let's seek support on Metacity then
[09:21] <Mythic> Nah. Not interested in Cinnamon anymore
[09:21] <Mythic> Changed my mind
[09:21] <curiousx> curfont: using ubuntu 15.10 here
[09:22] <Mythic> Back to Metacity. That IS Ubuntu
[09:23] <cfhowlett> Mythic, false.  WAS.  read:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Metacity
[09:23] <Mythic> cfhowlett Holy cow. Thank you
[09:23] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[09:23] <Mythic> I'll bet
[09:23] <Mythic> Hey, beats nothing
[09:26] <xieyi> i get a laptop having an integrated and a discrete graphic card. i can drive them under 15.04 but xserver cant be runned after upgrade to 15.10.
[09:26] <xieyi> i paste logs at paste.ubuntu.com
[09:26] <xieyi> bumblebee.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914248/
[09:26] <xieyi> gpu-manager.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914251/
[09:26] <xieyi> xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914273/
[09:26] <xieyi> Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914277/
[09:26] <xieyi> could someone give some instructions om
[09:27] <islandmonkey> I have an issue with Xorg -- trying to clean install 15.10 onto my computer yesterday, switched to propertiary NVIDIA drivers (HD 4000+GT 635M, so optimus) and finds that after a restart that it has gone into fallback graphics due an error with the xorg.conf file (see http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914284).
[09:27] <xieyi> how to fix the problem
[09:27] <islandmonkey> Oh, hey xieyi, I've been here for a good day trying to do the same thing. Is xorg segfaulting?
[09:28] <xieyi> no just cant find the screen
[09:28] <islandmonkey> Ah, same problem as me then
[09:28] <xieyi> cant get the desktop now. still get work tod
[09:28] <xieyi> todo
[09:29] <nglpx1> xieyi, try remove bumblebee
[09:30] <xieyi> what will happen after removing bumblebee
[09:30] <vvk_yugasa> Hi cfhowlett, the new source.list generated by the link given by you is http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914323/ and the errors I got with apt-get update command with this source.list are http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914328/
[09:30] <islandmonkey> nglpx1: What would be the command for that (to remove all bumblebee related items)?
[09:31] <islandmonkey> Could I reinstall and use it again? I really do need it
[09:31] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, no pubkey is fixable.  line 6 error is beyond me.  sorry.
[09:31] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, wiat
[09:31] <nglpx1> yes, you can, it's a try
[09:32] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, unless you have a very specific need, you should not be downloading source code, so disable that setting.
[09:32] <nglpx1> islandmonkey, http://askubuntu.com/questions/466269/how-to-purge-and-reinstall-bumblebee-completely
[09:34] <vvk_yugasa> ok cfhowlett
[09:35] <islandmonkey> brb, rebooting
[09:35] <cfhowlett> and see your error list: line 36, 40, 47, 51 tell you how to repair the pub-key error
[09:39] <vvk_yugasa> cfhowlett, commented all deb-src lines from source.list.. still getting these errors : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914394/
[09:39] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, see your error list: line 32, 36, 40, 47, 51 tell you how to repair the pub-key error
[09:40] <vvk_yugasa> line 32, 36 of which file cfhowlett?
[09:41] <cfhowlett> your error messages
[09:41] <cfhowlett> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12914323/  << vvk_yugasa
[09:43] <islandmonkey> Okay, I'm back into the desktop with no bumblebee installed
[09:43] <abhijit1> how do i troubleshoot the no sound in headphone issue?
[09:43] <abhijit1> i tought it works without any software drives. just the hardware.
[09:43] <islandmonkey> So we can say that bumblebee is the culprit here in creating this xorg file
[09:44] <islandmonkey> That's the only issue in reinstalling it -- it's going to do what has been breaking my computer
[09:44] <Ben64> bumblebee isn't really useful anymore
[09:45] <islandmonkey> So how can I switch between the intel and NVIDIA card?
[09:45] <Ben64> nvidia-prime
[09:45] <Ben64> been included with ubuntu for a while now
[09:46] <Ben64> installing nvidia the proper way will install nvidia-prime as well
[09:48] <islandmonkey> So does that include optirun/primusrun etc. so that I can switch?
[09:49] <greg_> hello , how could i solve the problem with my amd hd 8210 drivers in Ubuntu? when I install from the driver manager , once I restart , i get a blackscreen and nothing happens
[09:51] <zaki> hi..
[09:52] <islandmonkey> greg_: Open up recovery mode, switch on network, go to root shell, do sudo apt-get install pastebinit and when done do pastebinit -i /var/log/Xorg.0.log. Type the output of that command so I can see your X log
[09:53] <greg_> how is for install official drivers?
[09:54] <islandmonkey> Ben64: When nvidia-prime is installed, optirun does not exist and the terminal prompts me to install bumblebee
[09:54] <vvk_yugasa> cfhowlett, new set of errors with update command : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914487/
[09:55] <cfhowlett> bad sig, you know about
[09:55] <vvk_yugasa> yes
[09:55] <vvk_yugasa> I'll fix that now
[09:55] <cfhowlett> the google error is likely temporary and will self-correct
[09:55] <zaki> need help with user permission
[09:56] <Ben64> islandmonkey: of course optirun doesn't exist, thats a bumblebee executable
[09:57] <islandmonkey> Ben64: So how can I switch between integrated and discrete with nvidia-prime
[09:57] <vvk_yugasa> cfhowlett, two errors remaining http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914504/
[09:57] <vvk_yugasa> fixed the badsig error with your suggestion
[09:58] <Ben64> islandmonkey: typing that into google would tell you the answer http://askubuntu.com/questions/459315/how-can-i-switch-back-to-nvidia-card-from-intel-with-nvidia-prime
[09:58] <TJ-> islandmonkey: "prime-select --help"
[09:58] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa,  and that look like  a pubkey error ... which you also can fix!
[09:59] <vvk_yugasa> cfhowlett, I just do a clean and update again... and I get new set of errors :-/
[10:00] <vvk_yugasa> Now I have got http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914528/
[10:00] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, least time, I just waited a few days and all errors fixed themselves.
[10:00] <vvk_yugasa> waited for few days?
[10:00] <zaki>  sudo apt-get update sudo: error in /etc/sudo.conf, line 0 while loading plugin `sudoers_policy' sudo: /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so must be only be writable by owner sudo: fatal error, unable to load plugins
[10:00] <zaki> whats this
[10:00] <vvk_yugasa> how can that solve the issue?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> you know how to get the pubkey, right?
[10:01] <vvk_yugasa> yes I think this is the command for that : sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys
[10:01] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, by the way, you should be able to install packages even with these errors
[10:01] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa,  and point it to the key you need.  see line 1
[10:02] <rexwin_> can somebody point to me a good softphone than ekiga linephone sfl and twinkle ?
[10:03] <vvk_yugasa> cfhowlett, does it mean I can go ahead with this error being there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914546/
[10:03] <vvk_yugasa> Do I not need to remove this http://paste.ubuntu.com/12914546/
[10:04] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, yep. that one is stubborn
[10:05] <vvk_yugasa> hmm ok
[10:05] <vvk_yugasa> Thanks for all the help and bearing with me cfhowlett
[10:07] <rexwin_> can somebody point to me a good softphone than ekiga linephone sfl and twinkle ?
[10:07] <cfhowlett> vvk_yugasa, happy2help!  just for testing purposes, install a package to ensure you can
[10:15] <english9090> after my diver audio is show up not work mic my pc are asus x54hr notebook
[10:16] <heber> i cannot type in my terminal
[10:17] <rexwin_> heber, can you type everywhere else?
[10:18] <heber> yes rexwin
[10:19] <rexwin_> What Ubuntu release are you runnin
[10:20] <heber> i am using boss linux
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> heber that's not supported here, you're in the wrong channel
[10:21] <english9090> hi monkeydust having a problem my sys not recognize the audio driver
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> BOSS is an Indian distro, is what I read here
[10:21] <Nicole_Sharp> Anyone still use Hannah Montana Linux?  :-)
[10:21] <cfhowlett> heber, boss linux OS provides support in their own channels.  (and if not, perhaps that's a cosmic sign to reconsider your choice of OS)
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> heber  start here https://bosslinux.in/support-centre
[10:26] <Mythikos> http://www.howtogeek.com/208070/new-to-linux-dont-use-ubuntu-youll-probably-like-linux-mint-better/
[10:26] <Mythikos> Is he right?
[10:26] <Ben64> Mythikos: not on topic here, use whatever you want
[10:27] <Nicole_Sharp> Nah.
[10:27] <Nicole_Sharp> Depends on what you want to do.  Ubuntu is better for technical users, Mint is good for casual users.
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> it's 'the distro that should not be named'
[10:27] <Ben64> not really, and that guy left already
[10:28] <curiousx> !info urxvt
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> !find urvxt
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> !find urxvt
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> !find rxvt
[10:29] <rexwin_> !info samba
[10:30] <curiousx> ty MonkeyDust
[10:30] <english9090> !audio driver
[10:30] <heber> monkeydust,ther is non related to terminal here
[10:31] <rexwin_> heber, are you located in chennai
[10:32] <heber> no rexwin ,i am in tirunelveli
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> heber  you cannot ask help here
[10:32] <rexwin_> i am in chennai. so why are you using BOSS for?
[10:33] <heber> ok thanks Monkeydust
[10:33] <english9090> heber tell me in private message the problem you have
[10:34] <english9090> i am help you in private
[10:36] <heber> rexwin , its free laptop
[10:37] <rexwin_> I believed they used a different distribution for govt laptops
[10:38] <heber> but here we got same distribution
[10:41] <heber>  /join #english9090
[10:54] <english9090> hi having a problem with my audio notebook
[10:54] <english9090> show up internal audio device alsamixer show up realtek
[10:54] <apollo_> hi all
[10:56] <Guest71876> hi
[11:03] <english9090> hi
[11:03] <english9090> can any help me
[11:05] <bekks> english9090: Not without you asking a specific ubuntu support question.
[11:06] <agent_white> !ask | english9090
[11:07] <english9090> ok my problem is now i am show the internal audio device but alsamixer show up the realtek driver how to get driver audio realtek working on audio setting in  system setting_
[11:15] <L> oi
[11:16] <Guest77014> oi
[11:17] <nglpx1> hi, before upgrading Ubuntu I could suspend the session simply closing the display of my laptop, now it's no more possible: is it possible restore this behaviour?
[11:17] <Guest77014> hi
[11:18] <Guest77014> hi
[11:18] <MonkeyDust> Guest77014  it works, we can see you
[11:18] <AasMan> hii
[11:20] <resdtardx> nglpx1: yeah there is a way.
[11:21] <rud0lf_> Hi
[11:21] <resdtardx> MonkeyDust: you eat banana
[11:21] <nglpx1> resdtardx, what is the way?
[11:23] <rud0lf_> Hibernate function in my ubuntu stopped working yesterday. While resuming rom hibernation, it gave an error "[    1.411868] radeon 0000:0a:00.0: VCE init error (-22). " and since then hibernation is not working.
[11:24] <rud0lf_> Everytime I resume from hibernation, it just gives me this error and says something about recovering journal and then gets stuck on a black screen. I have to force shut down it then.
[11:25] <rud0lf_> I am on Ununtu 15.10
[11:27] <rud0lf_> Is this a known issue?
[11:28] <resdtardx> nglpx1: sudo vim /etc/systemd/logind.conf
[11:28] <resdtardx> then as above, remove the # beforeHandleLidSwitch=suspend and save
[11:28] <MonkeyDust> resdtardx  no profane language here, even in pm
[11:29] <resdtardx> rud0lf_: do you have swap
[11:29] <nglpx1> resdtardx, I have to decomment some row?
[11:29] <nglpx1> I hate systemd
[11:30] <resdtardx> nglpx1: I use sudo gedit not vim. Add it or uncomment it
[11:30] <Caplain> how do i get apt-get to ignore listed packages that don't exist?
[11:30] <rud0lf_> resdtardx, Yeah I have
[11:31] <nglpx1> I use vi.. but which row has to be uncomment?
[11:31] <rud0lf_> resdtardx, 4.1 GB
[11:31] <nglpx1> which row has to be uncommented?
[11:31] <resdtardx> nglpx1: HandleLidSwitch=suspend
[11:33] <nglpx1> And then? reboot?
[11:33] <resdtardx> nglpx1: if that don't work try to uncommenting variableLID_SLEEP=true from /etc/default/acpi-support.
[11:33] <nglpx1> ok
[11:36] <resdtardx> MonkeyDust: what'd you say
[11:41] <resdtardx> nglpx1: any thing
[11:42] <resdtardx> rud0lf_: maybe your swap space is corrupted
[11:44] <rud0lf_> resdtardx, should I format it or what?
[11:45] <nglpx1> resdtardx, doesn't work, and I have no LID_SLEEP variable inside variableLID_SLEEP=true from /etc/default/acpi-support
[11:45] <nglpx1> and I have no LID_SLEEP variable inside /etc/default/acpi-support
[11:46] <nglpx1> maybe ACPI_SLEEP?
[11:46] <resdtardx> nglpx1: is the one executable
[11:47] <nglpx1> :
[11:47] <Caplain> how do i make apt-get not ask if i want to install?
[11:47] <nglpx1> ?
[11:47] <Caplain> like ommitting -a from emerge but for ubuntu
[11:48] <nglpx1> resdtardx, which one is executable?
[11:48] <resdtardx> Logind.conf nglpx1 check the properties to see if it's executable
[11:49] <nglpx1> /etc/systemd/logind.conf is not an executable file
[11:50] <nglpx1> it's a configuration fiel
[11:50] <nglpx1> file
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> Caplain  man apt-get explains a lot
[11:50] <Caplain> im sure it does
[11:52] <Caplain> if i had the time to read all of that i would be installing gentoo :P
[11:52] <Caplain> the answer is -y btw
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> Caplain  use the time you spend waiting for an answer to read the man page
[11:53] <Caplain> lol i was using that time to do other computery things but noted
[12:00] <Caplain> i figured the brownie points i get for answering questions on #gentoo would be applicable to all freenode channels...lol
[12:02] <fresher> hello
[12:02] <fresher> can't i have multiple "exec" in an upstart script?
[12:03] <fresher> In my case I have a webserver and essentially the same codebase as worker and they share the same env's and it would be super easy to do so
[12:04] <TJ-> fresher: then use 2 jobs; the init system configuration is designed to manage a single daemon process, not a group of processes
[12:04] <fresher> TJ-: Do I have to configure the env s 2 times or is there a chance to have that shared?
[12:05] <fresher> Things like database password and stuff is configured via envs
[12:06] <gianluca1> hi eveyone
[12:08] <TJ-> fresher: you could pull those in from a common file
[12:08] <fresher> TJ-: Maybe I have to read into vagrant and stuff.
[12:08] <TJ-> fresher: many job scripts keep common parameters under /etc/default/JOB
[12:08] <fresher> TJ-: How do i include that into an upstart script?
[12:15] <hta6cgxt> Via OpenVPN iam connected with the server of my university. How can I automatically mount a smb-share in the university-network when opening the vpn-connection?
[12:18] <TJ-> fresher: 'source' it in the pre-start script stanza. Look at other service configs under /etc/init/, such as apport.conf
[12:18] <fresher> thanks
[12:18] <fresher> i will read into docker and vagrant and stuff as well
[12:18] <TJ-> fresher: "grep 'etc/default/' /etc/init/*" will point to several
[12:18] <fresher> thanks
[12:19] <hta6cgxt> Additionally if somebody would answer me some questions about /etc/fstab would be grateful
[12:20] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: Is the VPN connection being managed by Network Manager?
[12:20] <hta6cgxt> TJ-: Yes
[12:22] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: see "man 8 network-manager" and use a 'vpn-up' dispatcher script
[12:22] <hta6cgxt> TJ-: I configured it with help of the GUI because im really, let's say rusty
[12:22] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: you'll likely want to do the inverse operation for 'vpn-pre-down' too
[12:22] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: what was the fstab question?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> hey all
[12:28] <hta6cgxt> TJ-: I added the smb-share adress with -o noauto in my /etc/fstab in order to mount it with "sudo mount -a"
[12:29] <hta6cgxt> TJ-: But that doesnt work... :(
[12:30] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: the fstab format uses columns, not 'switch' operators, to deliniate the fields. Options are the 4th field. See "man 5 fstab"
[12:30] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: e.g. "10.254.1.20:/srv/cctv /mnt/cctv nfs _netdev 0 0"
[12:31] <burkmat> TJ-, hta6cgxt: Isn't the "noauto" option specifically intended to keep it from mounting a) automatically and b) when using automount, aka sudo mount -a?
[12:31] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: or, where I use noauto: "UUID=e20802d3-52e4-4601-a168-404a32ba1568 /mnt/target/usr/local ext4 defaults,noauto 0 0"
[12:32] <TJ-> burkmat: correct
[12:32] <Onvu> hi, what do I need to do if my DM doesn't seem to load after upgrading to 15.10?
[12:32] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: ahhh, I misread your question. "mount -a" will ignore all noauto entries; but "mount /DEV/PATH" will still work.
[12:33] <hta6cgxt> TJ-, burkmat: //serveradress/HOME /home/user/directory cifs noauto,username=username,passwd=, 0 0
[12:34] <burkmat> hta6cgxt: as long as you know it won't automount with "mount -a" though. :) As TJ- said, you'll have to explicitly mount that path.
[12:35] <Onvu> I only get a black screen with the X cursor
[12:35] <hongker> exit
[12:35] <hta6cgxt> TJ-,burkmat: Okay, but it doesnt work when leaving the "noauto" option. The problem is, that I dont really know whats the problem when adding the code to my fstab. When mounting with "mount.cifs" it works very well....
[12:37] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: entries in fstab are only processed at boot-time; at which point the VPN is likely not up. So, after the VPN is up, you'd want to use 'mount' for that specific mountpoint to bring it up.
[12:38] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: if you dropped "noauto" but added "_netdev" "mount -a" after the VPN was up should work. However, that will likely cause a long pause at boot whilst the init system waits to see if that mount is going to appear
[12:38] <hta6cgxt> TJ-: So wouldnt it be a better idea to mount it within the "vpn-starting-skript"?
[12:39] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: E.g. for my system with 'noauto' entries, I can do "sudo mount /mnt/target/usr/local" when I want that
[12:40] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: Yes, that is where I'm taking you. "mount /path/to/mountpoint" in the 'vpn-up' script, and "umount /path/to/mountpoint" in the -'vpn-pre-down' script
[12:40] <hta6cgxt> TJ-: I'll try to do that! Tanks in advance! It's great that there are guys like you out there!!
[12:41] <TJ-> hta6cgxt: I'm not out there - I'm in here! :D
[12:46] <johnny_linux> :D~
[12:55] <KeithWeisshar> why does ubuntu lock up when I try to boot from my 64gb live usb
[12:55] <KeithWeisshar> i used the pendrive linux usb installer to format the drive as fat32 and write the ubuntu 15.10 iso
[12:55] <KeithWeisshar> i also used 4gb persistent
[12:56] <KeithWeisshar> ubunto locks up during the ububunto boot logo animation
[12:57] <KeithWeisshar> ubuntu locks up on the screen where dots appear and disappear
[12:57] <ludza> why does remastersys create a small .iso file on ubuntu15.04?
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> ludza  isnt that the way remastersys is supposed to work?
[12:59] <hta6cgxt> MonkeyDust, ludza: I guess so, too.
[12:59] <ludza> my remastersys is creating a 36Kb instead of 2gb which is the size of my squashfs file
[13:00] <ludza> 36kb iso file
[13:00] <KeithWeisshar> i used the universal usb installer and the 15.10 iso but ubuntu hangs on the purple boot screen
[13:00] <KeithWeisshar> i tried both usb 2.0 and 3.0 and uefi and legacy modes and it hangs each time
[13:01] <KeithWeisshar> i have asus z170 pro gamer with gtx 980 card and 16gb ram
[13:01] <KeithWeisshar> i7-6700k
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> KeithWeisshar  keep your question in one line, that's easier to read and repeat
[13:02] <[konbanwa]> KeithWeisshar press~ ctr+alt f1
[13:03] <[konbanwa]> KeithWeisshar is there a prompt?
[13:03] <xantty> add NOMODESET in menu, and also if you have SSD add to kernel line  libata.force=noncq
[13:04] <[konbanwa]> yeah press e while bootingg then edit
[13:05] <KeithWeisshar> i used universal usb installer 1.9.5.2 with 4gb persistent data
[13:05] <KeithWeisshar> my flash drive is 64gb sandisk ultra
[13:05] <[konbanwa]> KeithWeisshar while booting, when you see the boot menu press e then add nomodeset
[13:06] <KeithWeisshar> is there a usb capacity limit for universal usb installer
[13:06] <[konbanwa]> KeithWeisshar do you have ssd
[13:06] <KeithWeisshar> no
[13:06] <KeithWeisshar> i was trying to boot directly from the usb flash drive
[13:06] <KeithWeisshar> i was trying to boot from live usb and it was hanging
[13:07] <KeithWeisshar> it's a sandisk ultra usb 3.0 drive with 100mb/sec read speed
[13:07] <[konbanwa]> KeithWeisshar before booting you should see a boot menu like try ubuntu or install ubuntu
[13:07] <KeithWeisshar> i clicked on try ubuntu and then after that it boots and hangs while booting
[13:07] <[konbanwa]> KeithWeisshar press e and you should see a emacs like command prompt
[13:08] <[konbanwa]> KeithWeisshar do not press enter press e
[13:08] <ludza> when i run remastersys dist it just creates an iso file which is 36Kilobytes in size, but my system is bigger than that. What could be the cause?
[13:08] <[konbanwa]> KeithWeisshar are you there yet?
[13:09] <[konbanwa]> ludza did you read the remastersys documentation?
[13:09] <xantty> its probably nouveau problem - nvidia driver
[13:10] <ludza> [konbanwa]: yes i did. why do you ask?
[13:10] <[konbanwa]> ludza then follow it correctly
[13:11] <[konbanwa]> there should be no problem (exept for bugs)
[13:12] <ismail72> salut
[13:13] <xantty> KeithWeisshar - In the BIOS you have to disable the following: FastBoot, Intel Speedstep, SecureBoot,  also set UEFI with CSM (if doesnt work try with LEGACY), then in Install Ubuntu press F6  and set option NOMODESET.
[13:13] <ludza> so there is a bug with remastersys? anyone who can fix it?
[13:15] <ablest1980> hello ubuntu 15.10 is available?
[13:15] <ludza> yes it is
[13:16] <ablest1980> i can upgrade from 14.04lts?
[13:17] <[konbanwa]> luzda try this http://linuxhalwa.blogspot.com/2013/01/how-to-create-ubuntu-live-cddvd-using.html
[13:18] <ParzivalX> hello
[13:18] <[konbanwa]> ludza problem solved?
[13:18] <ludza> [konbanwa]: thanks let mi check it ou
[13:18] <OerHeks> ablest1980, 14.04 > 14.10 ( eol) > 15.04 > 15.10 ... i would do fresh install
[13:19] <ablest1980> k ill wait for nxt lts and order dvd
[13:19] <ablest1980> ty
[13:20] <OerHeks> !xenial
[13:20] <ablest1980> april right?
[13:21] <OerHeks> without delay, yes.
[13:21] <ablest1980> :)
[13:22] <[konbanwa]> LXD
[13:24] <jdorleans> Hi everyone, do you know how we do a Phone Call and Send SMS from a QML app? I couldn't find in the lastest API: https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/apps/qml/sdk-15.04.1/
[13:24] <ludza> guys can i upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 without loosing my file and installed apps?
[13:25] <MonkeyDust> !phone | jdorleans
[13:25] <[konbanwa]> ludza why do you want to upgrade?
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> ludza  yes, do-release-upgrade ... I tried it ... it took several hours and I had to stay present to confirm from time to time
[13:26] <xantty> Did anyone have a problem with nvidia (the newest) drivers and infinity login loop ~ Ubuntu 15.04 ?
[13:27] <mcphail> ludza: always make a backup before an upgrade. (But you should always have a backup anyway)
[13:28] <ludza> that is why i want to first create my distributable iso first before upgrading
[13:28] <[konbanwa]> ludza just backup your ~/ folder
[13:30] <ludza> what about my customised applications:
[13:30] <[konbanwa]> ludza why do you want to upgrade?
[13:30] <ludza> i want the latest system
[13:30] <MonkeyDust> ludza  this is one way to backup: rsync -avvurP --delete [source] [target]
[13:31] <ludza> for updates and bug fixes
[13:31] <OerHeks> likely you need to install those 'customised ´ apps again. or customise them again.
[13:31] <[konbanwa]> ludza then install your apps again
[13:31] <[konbanwa]> start fresh
[13:32] <[konbanwa]> ubuntu 15.10 is just a maintenance release
[13:33] <[konbanwa]> ludza ubuntu 15.10 is just a maintenance release
[13:33] <OerHeks> ludza, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes " Using packages from repositories not controlled by Ubuntu is not recommended as it can be a security risk and may break or complicate your upgrade."
[13:33] <OerHeks> those will be disabled and excluded from the upgrade
[13:33] <OerHeks> goodluck :-)
[13:34] <[konbanwa]> ludza if you are just using your computer to surf the web, read email, fu** facebook, no need to upgrade
[13:34] <Caplain> it seems gnome/lucid is ignoring .xinitrc and .xsession
[13:34] <Caplain> so, how do i work around that?
[13:34] <OerHeks> [konbanwa], no need for that language, keep this channel family friendly, thanks.
[13:35] <OerHeks> Caplain, lucid ? really ?
[13:35] <[konbanwa]> OerHeks ok
[13:35] <Caplain> OerHeks, i need kernel version 2.6 for the elo apr driver. it segfaults in v3
[13:35] <Caplain> and nobody would help me downgrade 12.04
[13:36] <Caplain> so i put lucid on
[13:36] <Caplain> its been fun.
[13:36] <dv_> I have a problem with networking. networkmanager doesnt establish the connection until I log in. but I have some fstab entries for samba shares, and these won't mount because the IP address isn't set.
[13:36] <Caplain> couldn't find a driver that supports kv3 or i would be done by now
[13:37] <dv_> in the past, it used to be possible to define a connection as a "system connection", and network-manager would start & connect this one at boot. now I can't find this anymore.
[13:38] <josseph> hi
[13:40] <btorch> hi anyone here that uses kickstart know if all the ks.cfg options also work for ubuntu or just specific ones ? Also anyone experienced a %post not taking care of overwriting a interfaces file  ?
[13:42] <ambien> hello, can anyone help me choose how my printer ought to be connected on my network?
[13:44] <ambien> Hello?
 Heelp
[13:44] <dudebro> So I just discovered that k3b does not lock the drive for exclusive access while burning....I'm in the middle of burning a data bluray, and when I open rhythmbox, rhythmbox checks to see if it's a music cd and fucks up the burn. wtf?
[13:44] <ambien> ?
[13:44] <dudebro> and this is cdrecord 3.1a24
 what printer?
[13:45] <ambien> it is epson xp-700. i have the drivers from epson. i have chosen to find network printer in the system settings.
[13:45] <timaaarrreee> I've created expanding html5 canvas thingy at https://udraw.me to multiplayer draw with websockets. would appreciate it if anyone could try draw on it
[13:46] <ambien> it now gives me an option if it is connected via  IPP network printer via DNS_SD
[13:46] <ambien> or LPD/LPR queuu ;passthru'
[13:46] <need_help> hi ppl, i need help fixing my apt-get status..i tried to setup aurous and i messed up my libgcrypt11 'status'... i'am keep getting error when apt-get install runs..
[13:46] <ambien> excuse spelling and punctuation in the last bit
[13:46] <ambien> I dont know which one is correct. it is connected to my wifi network. not direct to any pc
[13:48] <need_help> here is my error log: http://pastebin.com/WZ8VeNCR anyone willing to help? :)
[13:49] <islandmonkey> After having problems with bumblebee and now using nvidia-prime, I am still running to into problems. The first issue is that the ability to switch between NVIDIA and Intel drivers is nowhere to be seen in NVIDIA settings -- note that there is no mention of intel when switching via sudo prime-select intel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12916536/
[13:49] <islandmonkey> Secondly there are two issues at startup -- Ubuntu will not boot unless nomodeset is requested and when it does boot up, lightdm loops when I try to log in unless I stop it, switch to intel and start it again.
[13:49] <islandmonkey> By not booting -- I mean that Plymouth fails to work/continue to start lightdm
[13:49] <lettuce45> Mbps = Mega bit per second?
 did you install drivers?
[13:50] <islandmonkey> lettuce45: Yes
[13:50] <need_help> libgcrypt11 error  help?? ---> http://pastebin.com/WZ8VeNCR
[13:50] <ambien> yes
[13:50] <lettuce45> so id need 1024 Mbps to get 1 MBps <<<?
[13:51] <islandmonkey> lettuce45: You mean 1024 kbits? Anyway, incorrect -- see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units#Megabit_per_second
 try IPP
[13:51] <ambien> drivers are installed fromthe epson site. printer is found on the network,  it just asks me a question which i dont understand the choice I have about it
[13:51] <ambien> OK. i will do that and do a test print
[13:51] <lettuce45> so it is not Mbps = mega bit per second / MBps = mega BYTE per second <?
[13:51] <lettuce45> note the cap
[13:52] <ambien> test page is now printing.
[13:53] <cricket42> libgcrypt11 error  help?? ---> http://pastebin.com/WZ8VeNCR
[13:53] <lettuce45> ok....
[13:54] <lettuce45> so a bit is a collection of 8 "0"s and "1"s ,  right?
[13:54] <ambien> xantty, thank you this has worked correctly. I wonder if you can decipher which of the available files here http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/search/01/search/searchModule
[13:54] <ambien> will give me the ability to see ink levels
[13:54] <islandmonkey> lettuce45: 1024 megabits is 128 megabytes
[13:54] <ambien> actually ignore. that
[13:54] <islandmonkey> 1 MB = 8Mb
[13:54] <ambien> xantty it has everything working now thankyou vermy much
[13:55] <xantty> ambien np
[13:55] <cricket42> http://pastebin.com/WZ8VeNCR  -------------------------> anyone can help?
[13:56] <ambien> ok leaving channel. good day to all.
[13:56] <lettuce45> so my internet connection uses bits and no bytes
[13:58] <islandmonkey> lettuce45: To quote the Wikipedia article: "The data rates of modern residential high-speed Internet connections are most commonly expressed in multiples of bits per second, such as megabits per second (Mbit/s) or kilobits per second (kbit/s)."
[13:58] <islandmonkey> My ISP describes connection speeds in Mbps
[14:00] <islandmonkey> After having problems with bumblebee and now using nvidia-prime, I am still running to into problems. The first issue is that the ability to switch between NVIDIA and Intel drivers is nowhere to be seen in NVIDIA settings -- note that there is no mention of intel when switching via sudo prime-select intel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12916536/ . Secondly there are two issues at startup -- Ubuntu will pass beyond Plymouth
[14:00] <islandmonkey> unless nomodeset is requested and when it does boot up, lightdm loops when I try to log in unless I stop it, switch to intel and start it again.
[14:00] <lettuce45> Ignoring invalid record(s) in sources.list file! << I cannot add or delete old ppas due to that line, how do I fix it?
[14:00] <islandmonkey> will not pass*
[14:01] <Lisaaaa> I have Ubuntu 15.10 with Openssl 1.0.2d but no ChaCha20. What can I do  I have Ubuntu 15.10 with Openssl 1.0.2d but no ChaCha20. What can I do ?
[14:01] <islandmonkey> lettuce45: Take a look at sources.list, is there anything that looks a bit odd?
[14:03] <Lisaaaa> Sorry, I have Ubuntu 15.10 with OpenSSL 1.0.2d but there is no ChaCha20 Cipher, how to enable it ?
[14:03] <islandmonkey> lettuce45: Take a look at my sources.list as a comparison: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12916853/
[14:03] <lettuce45> islandmonkey, what directory?
[14:03] <islandmonkey> /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:05] <cricket42> http://pastebin.com/WZ8VeNCR  -------------------------> anyone can help? :(
[14:07] <Lisaaaa> Somebody here who can help ?
[14:09] <islandmonkey> After having problems with bumblebee and now using nvidia-prime, I am still running to into problems. The first issue is that the ability to switch between NVIDIA and Intel drivers is nowhere to be seen in NVIDIA settings -- note that there is no mention of intel when switching via sudo prime-select intel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12916536/ . Secondly there are two issues at startup -- Ubuntu does not pass beyond
[14:09] <islandmonkey> Plymouth unless nomodeset is requested and when it does boot up, lightdm loops when I try to log in unless I stop it, switch to intel and start it again.
[14:09] <islandmonkey> Can anyone help me as well?
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> Lisaaaa  repeat your questuion every 15 minutes or so, until someone enters who can help
[14:11] <lettuce45> islandmonkey, http://termbin.com/8erh my sources
[14:13] <bgrens> I am new to ubuntu and just installed OS on a laptop
[14:13] <bgrens> Everything is working fine, except i installed qbittorrent and it won't download anything
[14:13] <cricket42> I have problem with status on my dpkg after manually installing custom version of libgcrypt11 package.. In status of my dpkg/status file, I have version of libgcrypt11 set to 1.5.0. but config-Version is 1.5.3... and now I cannot install nor remove any package from ubuntu software center nor trough apt-get...anyone can help??  i also have pastebin of my apg-get install command:  http://pastebin.com/WZ8VeNCR
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> bgrens  try deloge
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> bgrens  try deluge
[14:14] <bgrens> "no direct connections"
[14:14] <bgrens> deloge is another bittorent search?
[14:14] <bgrens> I think my network connections are wrong
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> !info deluge
[14:15] <cricket42> I have problem with status on my dpkg after manually installing custom version of libgcrypt11 package.. In status of my dpkg/status file, I have version of libgcrypt11 set to 1.5.0. but config-Version is 1.5.3... and now I cannot install nor remove any package from ubuntu software center nor trough apt-get...anyone can help??  i also have pastebin of my apg-get install command:  http://pastebin.com/WZ8VeNCR
[14:15] <bgrens> i will try deluge now, thanks
[14:17] <islandmonkey> lettuce45: Quite interesting that you have no sources for security updates on your list, are they enabled in software sources?
[14:18] <islandmonkey> After having problems with bumblebee and now using nvidia-prime, I am still running to into problems. The first issue is that the ability to switch between NVIDIA and Intel drivers is nowhere to be seen in NVIDIA settings -- note that there is no mention of intel when switching via sudo prime-select intel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12916536/ . Secondly there are two issues at startup -- Ubuntu does not pass beyond
[14:18] <islandmonkey> Plymouth unless nomodeset is requested and when it does boot up, lightdm loops when I try to log in unless I stop it, switch to intel and start it again.
[14:18] <lettuce45> islandmonkey, i cannot access the repositories: E: Syntax error in line # deb http://download.jitsi.org/deb/ unstable/ # disabled on upgrade to wily E: Syntax error in line # deb http://download.jitsi.org/deb/ unstable/ # disabled on upgrade to wily E: Cannot read vendors.list file
[14:19] <cricket42> I have problem with status on my dpkg after manually installing custom version of libgcrypt11 package.. In status of my dpkg/status file, I have version of libgcrypt11 set to 1.5.0. but config-Version is 1.5.3... and now I cannot install nor remove any package from ubuntu software center nor trough apt-get...anyone can help??  i also have pastebin of my apg-get install command:  http://pastebin.com/WZ8VeNCR
[14:20] <OerHeks> lettuce45, seems like those ppas messed up your sources.list, those belong in sources.list.d folder. delete them, and add ppas the way it should
[14:20] <OerHeks> !addppa
[14:21] <ioria> cricket42,  what version of ubuntu ?
[14:21] <lettuce45> OerHeks, delete both  sources.list and sources.list.d ? those aint directories
[14:22] <OerHeks> lettuce45, no, delete those faulty entries in your sources.list.
[14:22] <lettuce45> OerHeks, i dont know what is a "faulty" entry
[14:23] <lettuce45> how do I identify them?
[14:23] <OerHeks> lettuce45, come on, yesterday you were told the same, over and over again
[14:23] <OerHeks> any error = faulty ppa, no?
[14:23] <lettuce45> no OerHeks yesterday nobody suggested to enter that file and edit it
[14:23] <Jonnyw2k> say if i hypothetically deleted the EFI entry for debian, and managed to somehow get back into the distro, how would I go about reinstating my EFI entry
[14:24] <bgrens> i'm feeling really stupid. how do you search torrents in deluge??
[14:24] <Jonnyw2k> bgrens, you mean new ones to download?
[14:25] <cricket42> @ioria Ubuntu 14.04.3
[14:25] <bgrens> yes
[14:25] <bgrens> i don't see a search bar
[14:25] <Jonnyw2k> I don't think you do, you need to find a torrent file or magnet link
[14:26] <bgrens> ahhh no torrent searching in deluge, that's not so user friendly
[14:26] <ioria> cricket42,  i'd remove the  custom libgcrypt11-dev   ....
[14:27] <ioria> cricket42,  how did you install it ?
[14:27] <cricket42> @ioria i tried, but i am not able to do that..
[14:27] <ioria> cricket42,  how did you install it ?
[14:28] <cricket42> @ioria i installed that manual package with wget "http://sft.if.usp.br/debian/pool/main/libg/libgcrypt11/libgcrypt11_1.5.0-5+deb7u3_amd64.deb " and dpkg -i libg...
[14:28] <ioria> cricket42,  you can purge it  with  dpkg  -P
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> bgrens  deluge downloads torrents, it does not search them
[14:29] <chen> hello
[14:30] <cricket42> @ioria, I get error dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove libgcrypt11_1.5.0-5 which isn't installed
[14:30] <ioria> cricket42,  put the full   name
[14:30] <ioria> cricket42,  sorry... paste  the cmd you issued
[14:31] <bill1> holla
[14:31] <cricket42> @ioria sudo dpkg -P libgcrypt11_1.5.0
[14:32] <ioria> cricket42,  that's  the -dev  package  ?
[14:32] <bill1> new ubuntu 15.10?
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> bill1  15.10 is new, released two days ago
[14:32] <cricket42> @ioria, dev package is  "libgcrypt11_1.5.0-5+deb7u3_amd64.deb" but when i do "sudo dpkg -P libgcrypt11_1.5.0-5+deb7u3_amd64.deb" i get: "dpkg: error: you must specify packages by their own names, not by quoting the names of the files they come in"
[14:33] <bill1> yes, 15.10
[14:33] <cricket42> @ioria I am not sure if its dev package...
[14:33] <lettuce45> ok, solved, thanks
[14:33] <ioria> cricket42,  it's not
[14:34] <Guest69456> salut les gens
[14:34] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[14:34] <ioria> cricket42,  it's the common pkg
[14:34] <Guest69456> merci
[14:34] <ioria> cricket42,  try thefullname
[14:35] <ioria> cricket42,  or use gdebi
[14:35] <bill1> Are you having trouble updates?
[14:35] <OerHeks> cricket42, remove the +deb7u3_amd64.deb else put a space between them
[14:36] <MonkeyDust> !who | bill1
[14:36] <OerHeks> cricket42, err, i read it wrong, ignore.
[14:36] <cricket42> @ioria, you mean like: sudo dpkg -P libgcrypt11_1.5.0-5 deb7u3_amd64.deb
[14:36] <ioria> cricket42,  without deb
[14:36] <cricket42> @OerHeks: ok..np and thanks for trying to help
[14:37] <cricket42> @ioria, isn't installed error
[14:38] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg -P libgcrypt11_1.5.0-5 ?
[14:39] <cricket42> @ioria, same error
[14:39] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg -P libgcrypt11_1.5.0-5+deb7u3_amd64
[14:39] <xantty> Hi, I was looking for it log time and still nothing.  is it possible to change max battery charging limit to f.e.:60% ?
[14:40] <ioria> cricket42,  with  sudo
[14:40] <cricket42> @ioria, same error
[14:40] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg -P libgcrypt11_1.5.0-5+deb7u3
[14:40] <cricket42> @ioria same shit
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> xantty  maybe in dconf-editor
[14:40] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg -P libgcrypt11_1.5.0-5 already tried?
[14:41] <cricket42> @ioria yes
[14:41] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg -l libgcrypt11_*
[14:41] <ioria> cricket42,  paste the  output
[14:41] <cricket42> @ioria no packages found matching libg..
[14:42] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg -l libgcrypt*
[14:42] <OerHeks>  interesting, libgcrypt11 : Breaks: libgcrypt11:i386 (!= 1.5.0-5+deb7u3) but 1.5.3-2ubuntu4.2 is installed
[14:42] <OerHeks>  libgcrypt11:i386 : Breaks: libgcrypt11 (!= 1.5.3-2ubuntu4.2) but 1.5.0-5+deb7u3 is installed
[14:43] <cricket42> @ioria, http://pastebin.com/ekJujJ6a
[14:43] <xantty> MonkeyDust I installed dconf-editor but on run there is something like ** (dconf-editor:15742): WARNING **: dconf-schema.vala:330: Unknown property on <schema>, extends   and then it freez
[14:43] <cricket42> @ioria, first one is problem, i guess
[14:43] <cricket42> @ioria, i assume i need to replace it with 1.5.3-2ubuntu4.2 version
[14:43] <ioria> cricket42,  can you purge with apt libgcrypt11-dev    ?
[14:44] <cricket42> @ioria apg-get purge libgcrypt11-dev ?
[14:44] <ioria> yes
[14:44] <cricket42> @ioria, no..i cannot do anything with apt-get :S
[14:45] <ioria> cricket42,  do you have synaptic installed ?
[14:45] <cricket42> @ioria no synaptic in console :) I am not sure.. btw i have gnome 3 version
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> cricket42  and with aptitude?
[14:47] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg -P libgcrypt11-dev
[14:48] <cricket42> @ioria, dependency problems - not removing, @MonkeyDust come again? :)
[14:48] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg -P libgcrypt11
[14:49] <cricket42> @ioria http://pastebin.com/iMzNxF4y
[14:50] <cricket42> @MonkeyDust, I didn't understand yuour question
[14:50] <ioria> cricket42,  nothing...
[14:50] <cricket42> @ioria...yes .. nothing :S
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> cricket42  with aptitude install, instead of apt-get install
[14:51] <ioria> cricket42,  all started when you installed  libgcrypt11_1.5.0-5+deb7u3_amd64.deb  ?
[14:51] <cricket42> @ioria yes
[14:52] <cricket42> @MonkeyDust I don't have installed aptitude
[14:53] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg --purge --force-depends libgcrypt11-dev
[14:53] <cricket42> @ioria done !
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> cricket42  can you not reboot in recovery mode and install/remove things from there?
[14:54] <ioria> cricket42,  check if is still installed  dpkg -l libgcrypt*
[14:54] <cricket42> @ioria i am not in recovery mode now...i am in gnome session... btw..there are now 2 dpkg in list
[14:55] <cricket42> @ioria 1.5.0-5+deb7u3 (still here... and this one is a problem)
[14:55] <cricket42> @ioria and second one is 1.5.3-2ubuntu4.2
[14:56] <cricket42> @ioria, lol...and there is 3rd one libgcrypt11-dev with none version and none architecture
[14:56] <ioria> cricket42,  i don't remember what  'iU' means   ...
[14:56] <asddsa> hello i have a question
[14:56] <asddsa> Is Os a process?
[14:57] <asddsa> i mean operating system
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> asddsa  a OS is what let's you work with your hardware
[14:57] <cricket42> @ioria what 'iU'?
[14:57] <ioria> cricket42,  installed  unknown
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> lets
[14:57] <KeithWeisshar> what causes ubuntu to freezes while in boot screen with 5 dots
[14:58] <cricket42> @ioria so we removed a good one package, and problematic one remained :)
[14:58] <asddsa> answer my questionn
[14:58] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg --purge --force-depends libgcrypt*
[14:58] <asddsa> ıs os a process
[14:58] <cricket42> @ioria done :)
[14:58] <MonkeyDust> asddsa  no, a OS is what lets you work with your hardware
[14:59] <asddsa> but i read that it was a process
[14:59] <cricket42> @ioria now there are only 2...   1. is 1.5.3. with iF tag and second one with un tag named libgcrypt11-dev
[14:59] <asddsa> ıt says the process starts with boot
[14:59] <KeithWeisshar> i have to hit esc as soon as this boot screen appears in order to finish booting to desktop
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> asddsa  where did you read that?
[14:59] <xantty> goodbye
[14:59] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg --purge --force-depends libgcrypt11-dev    again
[15:00] <KeithWeisshar> if i wait too long i have to reboot
[15:00] <asddsa> boot process starts os
[15:00] <cricket42> @ioria isn't installed :(
[15:00] <asddsa> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21395590/is-the-os-a-process-itself MonkeyDust
[15:00] <cricket42> @ioria isn't installed error :(
[15:00] <ioria> cricket42,  f means ... half-configured
[15:01] <cricket42> @ioria maybe he need his brother for 64bit version :)
[15:01] <cricket42> @ioria maybe he needs his brother for 64bit version :)
[15:01] <KeithWeisshar> why does ubuntu freeze if i don't bypass the graphical boot screen with esc
[15:01] <ioria> cricket42,  are  you 64 bit ?
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> asddsa  in a terminal, type   ps -e     to see the processes
[15:01] <cricket42> @ioria yes
[15:01] <KeithWeisshar> i have asus z170 pro gaming motherboard with core i7-6700k and 16gb of ddr4 ram
[15:02] <KeithWeisshar> my graphics card is nvidia gtx-980
[15:02] <asddsa> MonkeyDust you say os is not a process, right ?
[15:02] <asddsa> did you read the page that i sent
[15:03] <Jonnyw2k> KeithWeisshar, maybe you need a more powerfull gfx card
[15:03] <cricket42> @ioria.. I ran now apt-get install aant i get error that there is no libgcrypt11 instaleed
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> asddsa  not all of it no... i cannot explain it otherwise ... hardware > OS > user
[15:03] <KeithWeisshar> gtx 980 is maxwell
[15:03] <KeithWeisshar> it has 4gb of vram
[15:03] <cricket42> @ioria.. I ran now apt-get install and i get error that there is no libgcrypt11 instaled
[15:04] <Jonnyw2k> KeithWeisshar, was a joke, you running 15.10 ?
[15:04] <KeithWeisshar> yes
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> asddsa  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic to explain what an OS is
[15:04] <KeithWeisshar> 15.10
[15:04] <asddsa> MonkeyDust at that page the last comment can you read it? what you think about that comment ?
[15:04] <KeithWeisshar> trying to boot 15.10 from live usb
[15:04] <Jonnyw2k> Strange, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-331/+bug/1362848, looks like it was fixed in 15.10
[15:04] <ioria> cricket42,  can you paste again dpkg -l |  grep ibgcrypt*
[15:05] <ioria> cricket42,  can you paste again dpkg -l |  grep libgcrypt*
[15:06] <cricket42> @ioria only one iF libgcrypt11:i386    1.5.3 version
[15:06] <KeithWeisshar> why does windows keep running chkdsk on my usb flash drive when i reboot back to windows
[15:06] <cricket42> @ioria should i try now apt-get -f install ?
[15:07] <KeithWeisshar> why does windows 10 say scanning and reparing drive k:
[15:07] <ioria> cricket42,  you need to remove   it then  you can  reinstall ibgcrypt11  from a.deb package
[15:07] <KeithWeisshar> why does windows keep scanning and repaing the usb flash drive after ubuntu freezes while booting annd then i press alt-sysreq-b to reboot
[15:07] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg --purge --force-depends libgcrypt11:386
[15:08] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg --purge --force-depends libgcrypt11:i386
[15:08] <cricket42> @ioria i did, and now when i list it (with -l libgrcrypt* i have 2 un
[15:08] <KeithWeisshar> when i reboot back to windows with the usb flash drive in the port windows keeps running chkdsk
[15:08] <KeithWeisshar> why does windows keep chkdsking the usb flash drive after using it to boot live
[15:09] <ioria> cricket42,  un is  ok ... can  you paste  dpkg -l   |grep   ibgcrypt*
[15:09] <cricket42> @ioria and no result for: "sudo dpkg -l | grep libgcrypt"
[15:09] <reactormonk> How do I find out of my ubuntu is running upstart?
[15:09] <reactormonk> s/of/if/
[15:09] <asddsa> MonkeyDust
[15:09] <cricket42> @ioria and no result for: "sudo dpkg -l | grep libgcrypt*"   - also
[15:09] <asddsa> i say to you
[15:09] <fanderal> asddsa: doesn't your link answer your question?
[15:10] <ioria> cricket42,  without sudo ...   dpkg -l |grep libgcrypt*
[15:10] <cricket42> @ioria no results
[15:10] <ioria> cricket42,  ok
[15:11] <cricket42> @ioria now apt-get -f install or apt-get install or ?
[15:11] <ioria> cricket42,  sudo apt-get update
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> asddsa  better continue in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:11] <cricket42> @ioria: /usr/lib/apt/methods/https: error while loading shared libraries: libgcrypt.so.11: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[15:12] <ioria> cricket42,  ok... download from here http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/amd64/libgcrypt11/download
[15:13] <KeithWeisshar> can the usb get corrupted if i hard reboot ubuntu
[15:14] <baizon> KeithWeisshar: not really
[15:14] <cricket42> @ioria and now "deb libgcrypt11_1.5.3-2ubuntu4.2_amd64.deb"?
[15:14] <baizon> KeithWeisshar: but it can happen that you have to format your usb
[15:14] <cricket42> @ioria and now "dpkg -i libgcrypt11_1.5.3-2ubuntu4.2_amd64.deb"?   ***
[15:14] <ioria> cricket42,  doubleclick   ?
[15:15] <cricket42> @ioria...just a sec
[15:15] <cricket42> @ioria..files want start :S
[15:15] <exalt> hello i try to create a package, i run the following command:  fakeroot dpkg-deb --build synergy-master-alpha-0429986-Linux-x86_64
[15:15] <ioria> cricket42,  start it
[15:16] <cricket42> @ioria..started with a long delay
[15:16] <exalt> it reports fakesoot has no --build otion
[15:16] <exalt> option
[15:16] <KeithWeisshar> is the z170 chipset supported in ubuntu 15.10
[15:16] <KeithWeisshar> and also gtx 980 video card
[15:16] <KeithWeisshar> why does the graphical boot screen get stuck
[15:17] <cricket42> @ioria..double clicked and still nothing happened...
[15:17] <KeithWeisshar> the dots move from left to right and after a while it stops working
[15:17] <ioria> cricket42,  try withdpkg -i
[15:17] <ioria> cricket42,  do you have gdebi  ?
[15:17] <cricket42> @ioria done
[15:18] <cricket42> @ioria done with dpkg -i
[15:18] <ioria> cricket42,  dpkg -l |grep libgcrypt*
[15:19] <cricket42> @ioria no results
[15:19] <cricket42> @ioria ups 1
[15:19] <cricket42> @ioria with tag ii
[15:19] <ioria> cricket42,  can  you  paste it ?
[15:20] <cricket42> @ioria ii  libgcrypt11:amd64                           1.5.3-2ubuntu4.2                                    amd64        LGPL Crypto library - runtime library
[15:20] <ioria> ok
[15:20] <ioria> !info libgcrypt11 trusty
[15:20] <cricket42> @ioria sudo apt-get update now?
[15:21] <ioria> cricket42,  yes
[15:21] <cricket42> @ioria passed !
[15:21] <TheEagerPadawan> is there a pdf viewer that uses tabs for multiple documents instead of creating multiple window instances?
[15:21] <ioria> cricket42,  don't install those Debian package  again, please
[15:21] <cricket42> @ioria :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) will never ever in my life :)
[15:22] <ioria> cricket42,  you can whatever you want with the ubuntu packages
[15:22] <ioria> *do
[15:23] <cricket42> @ioria when i start ubuntu software center i get error again with "cancel and repair" options...is this normal? :S
[15:23] <ioria> cricket42,  i don't use it...  i don't know, sorry
[15:23] <KeithWeisshar> why does ubuntu freezes on splash screen during boot on nvidia gtx 980 video card
[15:23] <cricket42> @ioria do i need to run apt-get install or apt-get -f install?
[15:24] <cricket42> @ioria before moving on..
[15:24] <baizon> KeithWeisshar: driver issues
[15:24] <ioria> cricket42,  what you wanna do now ?
[15:24] <cricket42> @ioria just to try apt-get install to be sure that it will allow me to install anything...or remove anything
[15:25] <kklim> hi all. is anyone using lenovo s10-2?
[15:25] <ioria> cricket42,  sudo apt-get install  vim
[15:25] <KeithWeisshar> i was booting from original iso on usb
[15:26] <KeithWeisshar> i used linux live usb installer to create the usb
[15:26] <cricket42> @ioria http://pastebin.com/ttJXnNee
[15:28] <KeithWeisshar> is the ubuntu iso a hybrid iso and can it be directly written with dd
[15:28] <KeithWeisshar> can the ubuntu iso be directly written to usb with dd
[15:29] <ioria> cricket42,  try apt-get -f install   but the last time i  did it i lost some packages ...
[15:30] <cricket42> @ioria worked like a charm! thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank 
[15:31] <ioria> cricket42,  ok... why did you  want  to install a custom  libgcrypt11  ?
[15:32] <cricket42> @ioria because of this https://github.com/AurousGroup/Bug-Tracker/issues/5 :)
[15:33] <ioria> cricket42,  java programmer ?
[15:33] <cricket42> @ioria ruby on rails :)
[15:34] <ioria> cricket42,  i see...  well i can  take  a deep   look at  it  ....maybe there alternatives
[15:34] <ioria> *are
[15:34] <MonkeyDust> ioria  +1   <-- for whichever way you helped cricket42
[15:34] <ioria> MonkeyDust, ahahahhaha
[15:34] <cricket42> @ioria I really had to go now.. don't have to bother about my situation anymore..thank you again! fck this app, for now... i lost my nervs about this situation :)
[15:35] <ioria> cricket42,  see later
[15:35] <cricket42> @MonkeyDust :))))
[15:35] <cricket42> @ioria c ya, by ppl
[15:35] <ioria> brb
[15:40] <eair> every time my dell 7537 startup, the keyboard backlight is on. can someone help?
[15:40] <eair> ubuntu 15.10
[15:40] <weeds> hello guys
[15:40] <matteo-vincenti> .xchat2/budus.so
[15:41] <weeds> anyone had read hacking team code ?
[15:44] <aarobc> Hi! So, upgraded to 15.10 on both my machines, but I think the kernel on my desktop is screwed up because it won't boot with the version 4 kernel. booting with 3.19 still works fine. Is there some way to try re-installing the kernel 4?
[15:45] <six1101> Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio with snd_hda_intel driver makes my laptop audio crackling... any suggestion?
[15:46] <eair> does anyone encounter backlight problem after upgrade to ubuntu 15.10? really annoying
[15:47] <six1101> I changed my alsa-base.conf to: "options snd-hda-intel model=dell power_save=0 power_save_controller=N" and "options snd-hda-intel vid=8086 pid=8ca0 snoop=0" but the problem persists
[15:47] <BluesKaj> six1101, opem alsamixer and turn your front and back mics down or mute them, if you aren't using them
[15:48] <BluesKaj> six1101, also in alsa-base.conf add this line to the bottom, options snd-hda-intel index=0
[15:50] <six1101> very strange... when I put down all volumes the noise still persist... but if I mute the volume from the icon on the top right the noise stop
[15:51] <matteo-vincenti> ATTENZIONE: Non e' stata intercettata la versione originale di lynx.
[15:51] <matteo-vincenti> Questo script e' in grado di funzionare sono con lynx e non links2.
[15:51] <six1101> i made the change in alsa-base, reboot seeu later, thanks
[15:52] <BluesKaj> six1101, that's because you're muting everything, including the noise source
[15:54] <Archer_> Hellow!
[15:56] <Six110> BluesKaj, nothing, problem persists
[15:57] <xantty> Hi, if I made some changes in kernel .c files how to apply those changes. Do I have to recompile it?
[15:58] <burkmat> xantty: If you altered the source code, then yes, you'
[15:59] <burkmat> xantty: you have to recompile
[15:59] <za-za> hello
[16:00] <xantty> burkmat ok, but what then? How to apply changes?
[16:04] <burkmat> xantty: Honestly, I'm not sure if you should be altering your kernel if you're not sure about when you need to recompile. :P But yeah, compiling the kernel with the new source is how you apply the changes.
[16:04] <kalbiu> hello, I was saving some files and the process stood still for a while. nothing moves. can I somehow make it continue?
[16:04] <Archer_> Hey Guys?
[16:04] <Lisaaaa> , I have Ubuntu 15.10 with OpenSSL 1.0.2d but there is no ChaCha20 Cipher, how to enable it ?
[16:05] <Archer_> Hi m Archer and m new to this...
[16:06] <xantty> burkmat thank you, this is what I need. I have just wrote battery saver, to dissalow charge under 40%. If wont blow i will share with my code.
[16:07] <strk> what version is "utopic" ? I have all "utopic" references in source.list but lsb_release -a tells me I'm on "trusty"
[16:07] <trism> strk: utopic is 14.10 trusty is 14.04
[16:07] <strk> sources.list.save has the trusty ones
[16:07] <strk> maybe I interrupted a dist-upgrade then ?
[16:08] <strk> a do-release-upgrade, even...
[16:08] <strk> should I cp sources.list.save sources.list ?
[16:08] <Lisaaaa> Somebody here who can help me
[16:09] <baizon> !help
[16:09] <strk> dpkg -l | grep utopic # no hits
[16:09] <strk> dpkg -l | grep trusty | wc -l # 9 hits
[16:09] <strk> what's the right way to check if I've any package coming from utopic ?
[16:09] <Lisaaaa> , I have Ubuntu 15.10 with OpenSSL 1.0.2d but there is no ChaCha20 Cipher, how to enable it ? !help
[16:09] <anonymous__> hurley
[16:09] <inteus> !patience | Lisaaaa
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> Lisaaaa  is chacha20 optional or default?
[16:11] <Lisaaaa> I don't know. But some sites say that it should be enabled
[16:11] <khax> dance to the Cha-Cha
[16:12] <baizon> Lisaaaa: chacha20 is work in progress, will be included in openssl 1.1.0
[16:12] <OerHeks> Lisaaaa, that  ChaCha20 is a google thing AFAIK, you need to build it yourself https://github.com/h-yamamo/openssl-chacha20poly1305
[16:12] <OerHeks> https://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.nl/2014/04/speeding-up-and-strengthening-https.html
[16:13] <Lisaaaa> Thank you
[16:16] <trism> strk: it is easy to check with synaptic if you have it, just look at the origin tab, otherwise maybe something like: aptitude search '?narrow(?installed,?archive(utopic))'; might need to check utopic-updates and utopic-security too
[16:19] <GuidovanPossum> hi, after installing Ubuntu Studio I now have a generic and low latency kernel that update, I almost always use the generic and want to update my system but am limited in bandwidth, how can I switch off or opt out of the newer lower latency kernel updates for now? thanks
[16:21] <mcphail> GuidovanPossum: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-lowlatency should do it
[16:24] <mcphail> GuidovanPossum: Sorry, no pm's please. Removing that metapackage should leave the existing kernels (I think), although they would be removed with an "apt-get autoremove"
[16:24] <prodigy2k> hello how do i change my password in terminal?
[16:25] <GuidovanPossum> ok sorry and thanks!
[16:25] <mcphail> GuidovanPossum: np! Good luck
[16:25] <darkp> hi
[16:25] <darkp> :d
[16:25] <darkp> alguien habla español?
[16:26] <DJones> !es | darkp
[16:26] <mcphail> prodigy2k: passwd
[16:26] <darkp> oooh gracias! te lo agradesco
[16:26] <DJones> darkp: You're welcome
[16:26] <prodigy2k> replace passwd with pass?
[16:27] <mcphail> prodigy2k: no, just type passwd and follow the prompts
[16:27] <prodigy2k> k
[16:27] <prodigy2k> ty
[16:27] <prodigy2k> passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[16:27] <prodigy2k> passwd: password unchanged
[16:29] <prodigy2k> passwd: password updated successfully ;)
[16:29] <mcphail> prodigy2k: :)
[16:31] <mcphail> I've just installed Wily and my wireless mouse is far too sensitive. There is no way to adjust sensitivity under the "Mouse" system settings (as per bug 1132063), nor is there an option in dconf-editor. What is the best workaround? I'm hacking with xinput parameters jsut now, but that is not exactly slick
[16:33] <mohammed> hi
[16:33] <Guest49580> yes
[16:43] <MonkeyDust> mcphail  gconf-editor is a relic that *sometimes* helps
[16:43] <aq_> Hello Mister
[16:43] <Mister> hi my friend . hi aq you are still alive tnx
[16:44] <Mister> aq_  you are a real magician !
[16:44] <mcphail> MonkeyDust: I'll try it, but thought it was long-dead :)
[16:45] <Mister> aq : sorry for distrubing you . Tell it to all Mint chatters please . Cause now  i can't see Mint channel TAB
[16:45] <aq2> Mister: what irc client are you using?
[16:45] <booker_> Hello
[16:45] <Mister> aq2 : if i tell you will you hack me in the future ?
[16:46] <aq2> Mister: i'm the same person as aq and aq2, i just came here with a different nick
[16:46] <Mister> ok aq2 i know you are aq !
[16:46] <aq2> no Mister, most people in the mint channels are using hexchat and its no secret
[16:46] <ioria> mcphail, maybe , as last resort, you can set up  a xorg.conf
[16:46] <mcphail> ioria: aargh
[16:46] <ioria> :(
[16:46] <Mister> ok aq2 i use Mint onboard xchat : it's the truth
[16:47] <mcphail> ioria: I'll stick to xinput hacking in that case :)
[16:47] <ioria> ok
[16:47] <mcphail> cheers
[16:47] <aq2> Mister: let me install xchat and we'll see if i can help you
[16:48] <Mister> aq2  is it necessary to use the same chat program like mine ?
[16:48] <aq2> Mister: i don't know how to have multiple channels opened in xchat at the same time
[16:49] <aq2> Mister: XChat -> New -> Server tab
[16:50] <Mister> aq2  you can add many orther tabs , in which you can add different channels. i tried to do  it . i succeded but when i tried to select ubuntu impossible to see the correct chatroom
[16:50] <ioria> mcphail, xset ?
[16:50] <aq2> Mister: do you have two server tabs open now?
[16:50] <Mister> yes
[16:51] <Mister> in the new TAB i can only see a Empty tab
[16:51] <Mister> the TAB has no chatters , this TAB is called <none>
[16:51] <djdtime> #amiga
[16:51] <aq2> Mister: you should somehow join to spotchat with that tab
[16:52] <Mister> what ?
[16:53] <mcphail> ioria: yes - I've just created a little script to set the sensitivity and added it to the startup programs. I don't know what has changed between vivid and wily, but it is rather annoying
[16:54] <ioria> mcphail, it  works  ?
[16:54] <aq2> Mister: i forgot what your original problem was...
[16:54] <mcphail> ioria: yess. Hackish, but it works. It would be nice if I could get the sensitivity dialog to appear
[16:55] <Mister> ap2 ok let's go back to our problem
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> mcphail  you can add it in the launchpad bug comments
[16:55] <ioria> mcphail, yeah... a beautiful pygtk interface ....
[16:55] <Mister> I boot the Ubunt net install distro  !
[16:56] <mcphail> MonkeyDust: I think my situation is the same as all the others (and the same as all the duplicate reports)
[16:56] <Mister> Then i install Ubuntu in a 8 Go USB key ! All was correct . Then i boot this key ...
[16:57] <aq2> Mister: netinstall? i thought ubuntu based distros are something you would just download the full setup and it would download only language packs etc
[16:57] <Mister> yes a neetinstall ISO (33 Mo ) don't you know it ?
[16:57] <aq2> i have only used mint :(
[16:57] <aq2> mostly
[16:58] <Mister> ok let me explain to you . clearly if you want
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[16:58] <aq2> ok
[16:58] <aq2> Drone`: ^
[16:58] <mcphail> kjcwncsdr: don't spam here please
[16:59] <Mister> aq2 : i found a net install ISO ubuntu distro . (in ubuntu official site) . size is 33 Mo . This is a special ISO . ready to let you make install via internet connection.
[16:59] <aq2> that's interesting
[17:01] <Mister> then the Ubuntu install process starts : it's the same process like any other Ubuntu  distro , i believe. If take it because i don't wanted to use 2 differents device to do my installation
[17:01] <Mister> If take ->  I take ...
[17:03] <Mister> Installation is not the problem i suppose. Because i did complete install process. Then i bootup the Ubuntu burned in USB key.
[17:04] <Mister> then (not the case about other Ubuntu distros )  a reach a terminal window. I input my  login/ password...
[17:05] <Mister> then i wrote "startx" in order to see  Graphical desktop beginning . I could see startx  script launching but nothing seems to happend
[17:06] <Mister> i need help now . i want to use my desktop like other any Ubuntu distros
[17:06] <aq2> Mister: do you want Mint or Ubuntu?
[17:06] <aq2> mint will be faster, unity is heavy
[17:06] <aq2> lubuntu is not as good looking as unity and mint
[17:06] <ioria> !info   lxinput  | mcphail
[17:07] <Mister> because of my own business (secret) . They are the best distros ,to do the job ,i think
[17:07] <ioria> mcphail, it could work
[17:07] <aq2> Mister: mint is compatible with ubuntu
[17:08] <aq2> Mister: the only difference is that when adding software sources you use Software sources from the Menu, not the terminal
[17:08] <Mister> ok
[17:08] <aq2> i also don't recommend sudo apt-get update/upgrade in mint
[17:08] <aq2> Mister: do you want to download Mint now?
[17:08] <Mister> but why ?
[17:09] <mcphail> ioria: I'll try that. Good find :)
[17:09] <Mister> i first want to solve my Ubuntu problem if possibly
[17:09] <aq2> Mister: mintUpdate sorts updates to stable ones and not-so-stable ones. terminal won't care about the safe/unstable level
[17:09] <ioria> ^o^
[17:10] <aq2> Mister: i'd recommend installing mint
[17:10] <Mister> aq2 : ok after testing Ubuntu ! I 'll see if Mint is so powerfull that people say !
[17:11] <Mister> aq2 : could my problem comming from   missing : "sudo apt-get install mate " ?
[17:11] <aq2> Mister: i can give you a download link. how much ram do you have? do you want a system that looks good by default or is customizable?
[17:12]  * mcphail coughs
[17:12] <aq2> Mister: if you installed the server edition you will neet a desktop environment for it but i don't know how to install one
[17:12] <mcphail> !mint
[17:12] <Mister> oh , forgot to tell  you that : one of the reason i select Ubuntu is that i got low available RAM in my computer
[17:12] <aq2> ubottu: we were redirected here from mint channels!
[17:13] <aq2> Mister: i have my own channel in #aqstemporarychannel, come there
[17:13] <Mister> ubottu : let my friend aq2 in peace right now !
[17:13] <mcphail> aq2: Mint discussion id offtopic here. This is the Ubuntu support channel
[17:13] <Mister> aq2 i  try to reach it
[17:18] <SuperLag> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. <-- is there any way to find out which package is causing this?
[17:18] <OnkelTem> Hi all. This is not specifically a Ubuntu question. Can you recommend a tool to draw mainmaps like this one: https://sc-cdn.scaleengine.net/i/8d343caa909d504a751e274b3e6952c6.png ?
[17:18] <OnkelTem> maindmaps*
[17:18] <OnkelTem> mindmaps*
[17:18] <OnkelTem> crap
[17:18] <EriC^^> SuperLag: dpkg -l | grep -v ^ii
[17:24] <t_a_c_h_y_o_n_> hi diggers
[17:24] <macskay> hey guys, i need help with my ubuntu 15.10 x64. I got an error resolving homepages. when using ping 8.8.8.8 i get a response but when trying to ping www.google.com it tells me hist not known. i cannot visit any websites whatsoever, except i enter the ip, so the dns seems to be faulty. the strange thing is, that this came up all of the sudden. it workede 20 minutes ago.
[17:25] <t_a_c_h_y_o_n_> !!!
[17:25] <t_a_c_h_y_o_n_> wtf
[17:25] <ikonia> t_a_c_h_y_o_n_: tone it down please.
[17:25] <ikonia> !guidelines | t_a_c_h_y_o_n_
[17:26] <t_a_c_h_y_o_n_> what i did??
[17:26] <ioria> !info freemind
[17:27] <t_a_c_h_y_o_n_> but i can say what a hell??
[17:27] <ikonia> t_a_c_h_y_o_n_: check the guidelines on how to use the channel please.
[17:27] <t_a_c_h_y_o_n_> kk
[17:27] <OnkelTem> t_a_c_h_y_o_n_: change your nick please, it stretches my names column
[17:27] <mcphail> macskay: it sounds as if your DNS server is down. You could wait for it to come back up or switch to another
[17:28] <macskay> hm.
[17:28] <macskay> mcphail: The strange thing is, i got ubuntu runnging in a vm and my windows installation connects to any page whatsoever.
[17:29] <SchrodingersScat> macskay: and how did you change the dns?
[17:30] <macskay> echo "nameserver <ip>" | sudo tee /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base > /dev/null
[17:30] <macskay> <- SchrodingersScat
[17:30] <kika24> ciao
[17:31] <kika24> !list
[17:31] <lettuce45> hi, applications menu shows uninstalled applications' icons (with no path) that somehow were not automatically removed. I d like to solve it, to remove thse non working icons with no path
[17:31] <SuperLag> EriC^^: I'm guessing it's the one that says "iF", and it's a kernel package. If I update that, will that affect long running processes in the background?
[17:31] <motaka2> Hello  was using ubuntu 12.04, several days ago it ended to a black page several times and I had to restart it several times so it comes up. now it doesn't come up like that anymore. After some tries I decided to choose windows in from OS selection page and it gave me ntldr is missing, what should I do?
[17:32] <SuperLag> EriC^^: because that is just going to update the package itself, not unload/reload any kernel drivers/modules, right?
[17:32] <TaChY> is it ok like this cause of NAME?!?
[17:33] <SchrodingersScat> TaChY: it's fine, do you have a support question?
[17:33] <TaChY> no works fine but its new...
[17:33] <Unopoo> hi, is there a way to use chrome in ubuntu?
[17:33] <johnny_linux> chromium
[17:33] <Unopoo> I installed ubuntu 15 today, it's amazing
[17:33] <TaChY> have some buntu bugs but dont know where to post them...
[17:33] <SuperLag> Unopoo: yes, thankfully.
[17:33] <Renfield> you can dowload chrome in ubutu
[17:34] <Renfield> works with chromecast and netflix
[17:34] <SuperLag> Unopoo: google.com/chrome will have the links to download
[17:34] <ikonia> TaChY: if you clearly explain your problems with ubuntu in this channel, people will try to help if they can
[17:34] <SchrodingersScat> macskay: on desktop ubuntu I would change it in the network manager. There's also this, https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html#name-resolution
[17:34] <TaChY> will see... its like a glitch in bin bash and sh
[17:34] <Unopoo> SuperLag: thank you, but unfortunately, google is not accesible for me :(
[17:34] <TaChY> think its unpossible to fiv
[17:35] <SchrodingersScat> !bugs | TaChY
[17:35] <macskay> SchrodingersScat: It is a desktop ubuntu
[17:35] <TaChY> fix**
[17:35] <ikonia> TaChY: lets start simple, what is the exact version of ubuntu you are using
[17:35] <inteus> Unopoo: "sudo apt-get install chromium-browser"
[17:35] <SchrodingersScat> TaChY: don't try to send me things.
[17:35] <Unopoo> Inteus: I know chromium, but is it chromium the same with chrome in windows?
[17:35] <Renfield> Unopoo, How come you cant get to google?
[17:35] <inteus> yes
[17:36] <Unopoo> Renfield: firewall
[17:36] <motaka2> no one can answer me?
[17:36] <ikonia> motaka2: you'll need to repair windows in ##windows channel
[17:36] <ikonia> motaka2: if you want windows to work again
[17:37] <Renfield> Unopoo, Is it 32 or 64 bit version?
[17:37] <ikonia> motaka2: however you've not really explained the ubuntu version
[17:37] <motaka2> ikonia: no windows is not important for me. I just gave that error cause I thought it might help with fixing ubuntu
[17:37] <ikonia> motaka2: that suggets your disk has been damaged if you have missing files
[17:38] <SuperLag> Unopoo: yeah, 32 or 64bit?
[17:38] <motaka2> ikonia: I dont understand ?
[17:38] <SuperLag> Unopoo: why isn't Google accessible for you?
[17:38] <Unopoo> Renfleld: 64 bit
[17:38] <Unopoo> SuperLag: I'm in China
[17:38] <motaka2> ikonia: What do you suggest me to do ?
[17:38] <ikonia> motaka2: if you have missing files, that suggets you disk/filesystem has been damaged,
[17:39] <ikonia> motaka2: howver you've not really explained your ubuntu issue very clearly
[17:39] <quest9> anyone know tails os?0
[17:39] <SchrodingersScat> TaChY: not sure what you're trying to pull xfer: file MSF_OVERRIDE_MSF>MSF>MSF>SHELL_Glitch_199 received from TaChY (0.0.0.0): FAILED
[17:39] <ikonia> quest9: what ?
[17:39] <SuperLag> Unopoo: https://www.dropbox.com/s/lokgvptu26v9z8b/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb?dl=0
[17:39] <ioria> motaka2, can  you boot  in recovery mode ?
[17:39] <motaka2> ikonia: right now ubuntu doesnt suggest anything when I choose it OS suggestion page it just ends to a black page with a blinking cursor in the begining
[17:39] <macskay> SchrodingersScat: Got it working, nice thanks
[17:39] <macskay> The page helped me a lot
[17:40] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu | quest9, this is #ubuntu, for ubuntu support.
[17:40] <Renfield> Unopoo, Can you accept a DCC?
[17:40] <ikonia> motaka2: what happenes if you chose the recovery menu option
[17:40] <SuperLag> Renfield: or I just posted a Dropbox link. I put it in my Dropbox folder.
[17:40] <motaka2> ikonia: it shows a long list
[17:40] <Unopoo> Renfleld: I'm sorry, but what's DCC?
[17:40] <ikonia> motaka2: a long list of what ?
[17:40] <SuperLag> Unopoo: see if the link I posted will work for you.
[17:40] <motaka2> ikonia: of backups maybe
[17:41] <ikonia> motaka2: of what -
[17:41] <ikonia> motaka2: what does it show
[17:41] <Renfield> Unopoo, Nevermind try ad follow the dropbox link, and grab it there
[17:41] <Unopoo> SuperLag: Nah, dropbox, facebook, youtube, all blocked. pity me
[17:41] <motaka2> ikonia: sorry do you mean recovery mode or previous linux versions?
[17:41] <ikonia> motaka2: recovery mode
[17:41] <Unopoo> I'll search the web see if I can find the package in other place
[17:41] <Renfield> Unopoo, Are you using Hexchat? I can send it via IRC, if you accept the dowload request
[17:41] <ioria> motaka2, from Advanced ....
[17:42] <Unopoo> Renfield: wait, I'll install hexchat
[17:42] <motaka2> Whn I choose the recovery mode , it goes to a black page with a lot of writings
[17:43] <ioria> motaka2, like  I/O  error ?
[17:44] <motaka2> ioria: I dont see the word error in that page
[17:44] <ikonia> motaka2: you're going to have to be more specific
[17:44] <ioria> motaka2, can you paste one
[17:44] <SchrodingersScat> macskay: great, have fun.
[17:44] <motaka2> ikonia: Tell me please what kind of info should I send ?
[17:44] <ikonia> more details about the writing
[17:45] <ikonia> however that sounds like  kernal panic
[17:45] <ikonia> I suspect it cna't mount the root file system
[17:45] <ikonia> and as your Windows install is broke too, I suspect your disk is damaged
[17:45] <ikonia> note "suspect"
[17:46] <TaChY> boot from disc backup files and reinstall sys??
[17:47] <ikonia> TaChY: what ?
[17:48] <TaChY> boot ISO from CD/DVD Backup all files and renstall...
[17:48] <ikonia> who ?
[17:48] <TaChY> motaka2
[17:50] <TaChY> some one likes DNS Hacking XoxO
[17:50] <motaka2> ikonia: I was disconnected
[17:50] <motaka2> Did you suggest me anything
[17:50] <ikonia> TaChY: what are you talking about
[17:50] <TaChY> lol
[17:51] <ikonia> motaka2: I'm suggesting you probably have a problem with your disk if you can't boot ubuntu or windows and have missing files
[17:51] <motaka2> ikonia: is there a way to fix anything ?
[17:51] <ikonia> motaka2: I suspect (as you've not shown any error) that your ubuntu install is not booting as it can't mount the root file system
[17:51] <ikonia> motaka2: we have no real info to go on
[17:52] <motaka2> ikonia: I took a picture from the recovery output does that help ?
[17:52] <kuntz> the people from #web told me it's safe to talk about incest here, is this true?
[17:52] <ikonia> motaka2: we you can share it in a public place so we can see it
[17:52] <Unopoo> hi Renfield
[17:53] <Renfield> hey Unopoo , let me send the file to you ow
[17:53] <Renfield> *now
[17:53] <motaka2> ikonia: ok
[17:53] <kuntz> the people from #web told me it's safe to talk about incest here, is this true?
[17:55] <Jonnyw2k> bazhang, can you not just get CS to set the ban?
[17:56] <Unopoo> Renfield: timeout... :(
[18:00] <motaka2> ikonia: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0TfoQV0SEMeMnhCT05vZU9fNXR6M09UUEpTcVNjMEo5dEdB/view?usp=sharing
[18:01] <brojo> should i switch from windows to ubuntu
[18:01] <baizon> brojo: ?
[18:01] <ikonia> motaka2: that looks like it's fine -what's the last think you see on the screen
[18:01] <ikonia> baizon: your decision
[18:01] <brojo> im not a programmer but i manage a team of coders for a bunch of different projects --- ive been actively marketign / creating ecommerce sites and custom coded apps to spam / drive traffic... however ive used windows my entire life
[18:01] <motaka2_> ikonia: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0TfoQV0SEMeMnhCT05vZU9fNXR6M09UUEpTcVNjMEo5dEdB/view?usp=sharing
[18:02] <brojo> was thinking about dual booting ubuntu
[18:02] <uupz> ok so i installed xfce about a week ago changed eveyrthing up to my liking so i just rebooted my computer and when i logged back on all my old settings were up it never saved my new background for desktop the original color i set and everything it just reverted back to the original
[18:02] <uupz> also my sound does not work, any idea?
[18:02] <ikonia> motaka2_: that looks like it's booting fine
[18:02] <csballay> hi I try to install trilian in Willy
[18:02] <motaka2_> ikonia: So what should I do ?
[18:02] <csballay> but its doesnt works
[18:02] <brojo> but then ill have to spend alot of time learnign how to use it and it will provbably take me like 2x as long to accomplish the basic shit i do now
[18:02] <babamichi> Hello I am new here and have a question about wpaclear command
[18:03] <babamichi> pm me if you can help
[18:03] <tkdfriend> Anyone here familiar with audio?
[18:03] <brojo> what are the pros to linux over windows
[18:03] <Rosy> I was in italien mode needed to go back to english
[18:03] <brojo> for a non-programmer
[18:03] <ikonia> motaka2_: give it a few minutes, that look slike it's trying to boot
[18:03] <tkdfriend> Anyone familiar with audio>
[18:03] <Rosy> I ALSO NEED TO GET MY LAP TOP UPDATED
[18:03] <brojo> using computer basically to work witha  team of coders who develop apps and ecommerce sites
[18:04] <ikonia> Rosy: don't need to type in caps
[18:04] <motaka2_> ikonia: It was in this mode for about half an hour
[18:04] <kostkon> !ask | tkdfriend
[18:04] <uupz> thanks for the hel
[18:04] <ikonia> motaka2_: error may have scrolled off, those lines you've pasted look "fine"
[18:04] <motaka2_> ikonia: How can I give you errors ?
[18:05] <ikonia> motaka2_: have to catch them before they scroll off the screen
[18:05] <ikonia> motaka2: keep in mind the last thing it's doing is trying to attach a disk
[18:05] <ikonia> motaka2: it does look like you have disk problems
[18:05] <motaka2> ikonia: they scroll very fast no chance
[18:05] <ikonia> motaka2: I can appreciate that
[18:05] <BluesKaj> brojo, you'll just have try linux toi find out, we don't do polls and summaries about one OS vs another here
[18:06] <Rosy> may I get some assistance please?
[18:06] <babamichi> Hello I want to use the command  wpaclean but it gives me command not found
[18:06] <babamichi> pls help
[18:06] <ikonia> Rosy: what's the problem ?
[18:06] <BluesKaj> !details | Rosy
[18:06] <baizon> brojo: yes, +1 what BluesKaj wrote
[18:06] <ikonia> babamichi: install it ?
[18:06] <kostkon> !find wpaclean
[18:06] <Rosy> i would like to update my ubuntu
[18:06] <ikonia> Rosy: what is stopping you ?
[18:06] <kostkon> !find wpaclean trusty
[18:07] <baizon> babamichi: you need aircrack package
[18:07] <Rosy> don't know how
[18:07] <baizon> !find aircrack
[18:07] <babamichi> i have aircrack pachage
[18:07] <ikonia> Rosy: open the package manager, if there are packages that need updating, they will be offered
[18:07] <babamichi> but wpaclean command dont work
[18:08] <Rosy> k thanks
[18:08] <Jef91> On Ubuntu 14.04 where can I find a full list of keymaps to set using the setxkbmap command?
[18:09] <babamichi> ikonia how to instgall it ?
[18:09] <ikonia> babamichi: use the package manager
[18:10] <babamichi> i am with mint does it matter ?
[18:10] <ikonia> yes
[18:10] <abb4s> hi every body , I installed Persian language keyboard on my ubuntu but some times when i switch from en to Persian it just change in top navbar but type en !!! any body can help me ?
[18:10] <babamichi> i cant find it in package maneger
[18:10] <ikonia> mint is not supported here, it has it's own support channel
[18:11] <OerHeks> mint has its own issues
[18:11] <babamichi> ok sorry
[18:11] <babamichi> thanks
[18:13] <babamichi> last question Is it better to remove mint and install ubuntu ?
[18:14] <ikonia> thats up to you
[18:14] <ubuntu298> How can I use a shell instead of a display manager?
[18:14] <babamichi> I have no idea I'm new, so ask
[18:14] <ikonia> babamichi: still up to you
[18:14] <steaven> eh what's going on there
[18:15] <babamichi> ok thanks ikonia i will install ubunto
[18:15] <Szy1997> hi guys
[18:15] <steaven> hi
[18:15] <ubuntu749> My computer (Lubuntu 15.04 (I think)) seems to shut down the screen randomly and then turn it on again, but all windows are closed.
[18:15] <ubuntu749> It could do it any minute now.
[18:16] <ikonia> ubuntu749: sounds like the X display is crashing and re-setting
[18:16] <motaka2> ikonia: no more advise?
[18:16] <ubuntu349> It did it again.
[18:16] <ikonia> motaka2: what do you want me to say, we have almost no info to go on, and I've given you a reasonable guess based on what we do know
[18:16] <ubuntu349> What did you say?
[18:17] <ikonia> ubuntu749: sounds like the x server is crashing/resetting
[18:17] <motaka2> ikonia: What should  i do? I really didnt understand may you repeat it ?
[18:17] <ubuntu349> ikonia: Yup. I think this could have something to do with the lxdm display manager, but that would be stupid.
[18:17] <ikonia> motaka2: it sounds like your disk has a problem
[18:18] <ikonia> motaka2: the fact that both windows and linux are not booting and look to be having problems with the disk - suggests it may be the physical disk, if it's just the file system, a re-install would fix it
[18:18] <ubuntu296> It crashed again.
[18:18] <ikonia> ubuntu349: why would that be stupid ?
[18:18] <ubuntu296> No idea.
[18:18] <ikonia> then why did you say it's stupid ?
[18:18] <ubuntu296> So, how can I use a shell instead of a display manager?
[18:18] <ubuntu296> It did sound a bit stupid to me.
[18:19] <ubuntu296> It's like blaming cheese on 9/11, or something like that.
[18:19] <ikonia> ubuntu349: no, it's nothing like that
[18:19] <ikonia> I don't think I'll attempt to help/guide you any more
[18:20] <ubuntu550> It keeps happening!
[18:20] <ubuntu550> Is there anything I could do?
[18:21] <Jonnyw2k> ubuntu296, prss ctrl-alt-f1 that should just give you a shell
[18:22] <zenki> hi
[18:23] <Tiera> Hello i need help
[18:23] <ikonia> explain your ubuntu problem then Tiera
[18:23] <Bashing-om> !ask | Tiera
[18:23] <Tiera> -_-
[18:24] <Tiera> Ok
[18:24] <Tiera> I have linux right now trying to get ubuntu now i installed ubuntu but im having a hard time opening it with an application
[18:24] <guest132123> It happened, once again.
[18:24] <ikonia> you don't install ubuntu within linux
[18:24] <ikonia> Tiera: and you don't open it with an app
[18:24] <Tiera> What do i do
[18:24] <Tiera> Ok what do i do
[18:24] <ikonia> Tiera: its a total / complete linux distribtuion
[18:25] <Tiera> Burn it?
[18:25] <ikonia> !install | Tiera
[18:25] <Tiera> With a cd?
[18:25] <guest132123> How can I login to Linux trhough a shell, instead of a display manager?
[18:25] <Tiera> No i need help from you
[18:25] <Tiera> I read that already
[18:25] <ikonia> Tiera: read the link and it will explain the install process
[18:26] <guestfoo> Ikonia, did you say that my X server is crashing or something else?
[18:26] <ikonia> guestfoo: i'm not interested in helping you, as I said earlier
[18:26] <Bashing-om> Guest21131: Depends ... 14.04 is (upstart) and 15.04 + (systemd) .. what release are you runinng, and what is the end goal ?
[18:27] <guestfoo> It crashed again, so I couldn't read what you said.
[18:28] <guestfoo> This is really bothering me.
[18:28] <BluesKaj> guestfoo, if you're addressing someone in particular, use their nick
[18:28] <Tiera> Im doing it now using a usb stick
[18:29] <Tiera> What do i do after that
[18:29] <Tiera> Restart?
[18:29] <guestfoo> The only bright side about this is that my typing skills are getting faster.
[18:30] <Bashing-om> Tiera: Did you verify the .iso download (md5sum ) did you burn to USB at a slow speed? If the burn is complete next is to "check the device for defects" .
[18:30] <guestfoo> Gosh dang it to heck.
[18:30] <Tiera> ok
[18:30] <bcx> Is it possible to use mouse scroll in htop ?
[18:32] <Tiera> Can i install wine without ubuntu and just linux
[18:32] <guestfoo> I managed to join IRC from a different computer, and watch as my laptop crashes all the time.
[18:33] <ikonia> linux doens't exist as you're describing it - it's a distirbution
[18:33] <guestfoo> That depends on your package manager, I think?
[18:33] <ikonia> Tiera: it depends on what linux distribution you're running
[18:33] <XIX> bcx, you can just use the arrow keys and Page Up / Page Down
[18:33] <guestfoo> ikonia: Tell me again what you said about the X server. This time it won't crash, hopefully.
[18:33] <ikonia> guestfoo: no
[18:34] <guestfoo> ikonia: What?
[18:34] <ikonia> guestfoo: "no"
[18:34] <Tiera> 17.2
[18:34] <Tiera> Raphael
[18:34] <ikonia> Tiera: that sounds like mint linux
[18:34] <Tiera> cinammon
[18:34] <bcx> XIX:  thank you but my question is about mouse which is not a keyboard
[18:34] <guestfoo> ikonia: Very helpful, thanks.
[18:34] <ikonia> !mint | Tiera
[18:34] <Tiera> It is
[18:34] <Tiera> I did
[18:34] <Tiera> I want to do ubuntu
[18:35] <ikonia> Tiera: ok - then you need to install ubuntu
[18:36] <Tiera> Its done writing
[18:36] <Tiera> What do i do now
[18:36] <ikonia> Tiera: boot from the install media
[18:36] <ikonia> Tiera: as the link I gave you explains
[18:37] <guestfoo> So, my computer - Lubuntu 15.04 with i3 wm - is crashing all the time, shutting down the screen and turning it on again, but with all windows closed. My recent installation of LXDM could be related to this.
[18:37] <Dumle29> Is it possible with pulse audio to move an audio stream (music in crome) to an input device?
[18:37] <Dumle29> Say a mic of some sort
[18:38] <stan_man_can> hey all. i run 15.04 on a linode vps, it runs an api I built, I noticed around 2am I got a bunch of timeout errors. Checking my system stats, at the exact same time my CPU and disk usage spiked. User CPU usage went to 125% and disk hit 172 ops/s
[18:38] <stan_man_can> Any way for me to see what the heck is happening at that time?
[18:38] <ikonia> Dumle29: you can't output ot an input
[18:38] <Dumle29> ikonia: So no loop?
[18:38] <Dumle29> I want to play some music over my mumble server
[18:38] <ikonia> Dumle29: not really
[18:38] <Dumle29> :/
[18:38] <ikonia> Dumle29: you could output to the mumble "input" device file
[18:38] <ikonia> Dumle29: but not a physical device
[18:38] <Dumle29> well that'd be fine :)
[18:39] <ikonia> stan_man_can: talk to linnode
[18:39] <Dumle29> a virtual input device would be fine
[18:39] <ikonia> Dumle29: look at the input device mumble is using, and just tell pulse to output to that device
[18:39] <SchrodingersScat> Dumle29: have you tried jackd and etc?
[18:40] <Dumle29> ikonia: It's using my mic atm
[18:40] <Dumle29> SchrodingersScat: Nope, what is that?
[18:40] <ikonia> Dumle29: that mic will reference an audio input device file
[18:40] <ikonia> Dumle29: point your output at that device file
[18:40] <Dumle29> SchrodingersScat: A quick google shows me it's for one a gay dating app xD
[18:40] <SchrodingersScat> Dumle29: I used to pipe random pandora music through mumble using the jack tools. It can be a pain to setup ime, but you can patch inputs and outputs together.
[18:41] <SchrodingersScat> !info jackd | Dumle29, and there's a gui for this somewhere
[18:42] <SchrodingersScat> !info jackeq | Dumle29 maybe this
[18:43] <Dumle29> SchrodingersScat: Thanks. Trying it out :)
[18:44] <SchrodingersScat> Dumle29: good luck
[18:44] <Dumle29> ducasse: hmm jackeq refuses to open
[18:45] <SchrodingersScat> I'm over here, but I mentioned it can be a pain.
[18:45] <Dumle29> yeah. I'm looking :) Seems like qjackctl is what I want to use :)
[18:45] <SchrodingersScat> yes, that sounds familiar
[18:46] <XIX> bcx, try imwheel
[18:49] <XIX> Hi folks. I was wondering what backup solutions everyone is running. Can anybody please recommend an over-the-LAN backup solution that works for both Windows and Linux and is fairly painless for the user?
[18:52] <ECKit> Silence...
[18:53] <ECKit> There's so many joins and leaves but no talk
[18:53] <ECKit>  /|\ Point Above /|\
[18:54] <Gerowen> ECKit: Hello there, :P
[18:54] <Gerowen> Technically this is a "support" channel though, so you won't hear people talking about the news and things in here, only giving or requesting help with technical problems.
[18:59] <bcx> XIX: interesting but my graphical terminal already transmits mouse scrolls as I can use it in less
[18:59] <arthos> olá
[19:04] <Dumle29> SchrodingersScat: Doesn't seem to work with pulse audio :/
[19:05] <SchrodingersScat> Dumle29: aw :(
[19:08] <Unopoo> I downloaded the chrome deb package, but when I try `sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_adm64.deb`, here is the output: http://paste.linux.chat/view/1c11797f
[19:18] <popey> Unopoo1, sudo apt-get -f install
[19:18] <TaChY> every times i connect to the IRC channel my open wifi kicks me!! whats the problem?? some one can help?
[19:20] <OerHeks> TaChY, openwifi can do that, it is server side, setting a limit on connection time.
[19:20] <Unopoo1> popey: thank you :) I installed it successfuly
[19:20] <TaChY> yeah but the admin of the wifi kicks me
[19:20] <OerHeks> Not an ubuntu issue.
[19:20] <TaChY> nop
[19:21] <TaChY> maby the IRC nodes are untrusted ??
[19:21] <TaChY> now it worx but how long
[19:21] <bekks> How would that affect your wifi connection?
[19:22] <TaChY> have to connect to internet over theyr switch..
[19:22] <TaChY> i see now thy opend a new connection caus they cant fully kick me
[19:22] <TaChY> xoxo
[19:24] <bekks> TaChY: keep it in this channel, not in my private messages.
[19:25] <TaChY> did some one ever see a infinity shell in bin/bash
[19:25] <bekks> what is an "infinita shell"?
[19:26] <TaChY> some thing like this xoxo
[19:26] <TaChY> t_a_c_h_y_o_n_@lovingly:~$ sudo su
[19:26] <TaChY> [sudo] password for t_a_c_h_y_o_n_:
[19:26] <TaChY> Sorry, try again.
[19:26] <TaChY> [sudo] password for t_a_c_h_y_o_n_:
[19:26] <TaChY> root@lovingly:/home/t_a_c_h_y_o_n_# sudo sh
[19:27] <k1l_> TaChY: dont sudo su on ubuntu.
[19:27] <TaChY> sry
[19:27] <TaChY> i dont understand the rules
[19:27] <TaChY> why xp
[19:27] <TaChY> there is a glitch xp
[19:27] <k1l_> !sudo | TaChY
[19:28] <TaChY> i know sudo
[19:28] <TaChY> ...
[19:28] <TaChY> sudo su then sh and in sh su again.... then killall su with su
[19:28] <TaChY> will infinity loops schell to its own
[19:33] <TaChY> is that what i mean a bug or a fix??
[19:36] <faggousa> Salut
[19:36] <TaChY> hello
[19:36] <TaChY> whats going on
[19:38] <vooze> Anyone on 15.10 running firefox ? Can you play youtube HTML5 videos (not using vp9, but mp4/h264) ? It worked for me in 15.04 but now firefox html5 is broken.
[19:40] <wileee> vooze, Have you tried with addons off?
[19:40] <k1l_> vooze: didnt hear its broke. try a clean profile
[19:41] <vooze> wileee / k1l_ have tried clean profile, etc. yes. it used to work before 15.10 on both laptop and desktop, now both are broken.
[19:42] <vooze> Also laptop upgraded from 15.04, desktop clean 15.10 install :S
[19:48] <ioria> vooze, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[19:49] <vooze> ioria: yes :)
[19:49] <ioria> vooze, f
[19:49] <vooze> all gstreamer codecs seems fine. youtube.com/html5 displays all fine (except that I disabled webm/vp)
[19:50] <vooze> I can play vp9 just fine, but mp4/h264 just fails.
[19:50] <al2o3-cr> sup guys!
[19:50] <TaChY> maby that helps for Firefox and HTML5
[19:50] <TaChY> you could try this which worked for me:
[19:50] <TaChY> in firefox enter the about:config page.
[19:50] <TaChY> find the entries specified below and set them as I've set them below whichs did the trick for me:
[19:50] <TaChY> media.mediasource.whitelist = false and media.mediasource.webm.enabled = true
[19:50] <TaChY> Regards, Troels
[19:51] <bs0d> Hello. Could anyone comment on the texlive-full being outdated in apt repositories?
[19:51] <al2o3-cr> TaChY: pastebin dude
[19:51] <inteus> !pastebin | TaChY
[19:52] <TaChY> ugly...
[19:53] <yeats> bs0d: do you mean outdated as in your system won't update because it's an outdated package or "outdated" in comparison to the upstream release?
[19:54] <yeats> !info texlive-full
[19:54] <bs0d> yeats, I came across some forums which say that I need to install texlive-full from CTAN website and that the one in apt repositories is outdated
[19:55] <yeats> bs0d: ah - well, it's pretty common that Ubuntu (or Debian upstream) is running an older version of a particular program for stability's sake
[19:55] <wileee> bs0d, From the ubuntu repos you have support here, is all, direct from them, they are your support.
[19:55] <OerHeks> bs0d, true, mentioned @ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaTeX too, outdated from 2013 .. install from tug
[19:56] <wileee> 2015 in willy
[19:59] <ioria> vooze, take a look    http://askubuntu.com/questions/475351/firefox-html5-video-support
[20:00] <vooze> ioria: thanks, but thats all done (like I said, it worked before upgrade)
[20:00] <vooze> and youtube.com/html5 shows the blue like it should, so its not that :S
[20:00] <ioria> vooze, i see ...
[20:01] <amundsen> hi
[20:07] <vooze> iooner-: are you using 15.10 and it works for you?
[20:08] <amundsen> i need recomendation about a good howto for configuring nvidia optimus card
[20:08] <amundsen> i've been googling but all of them sugest to install from ppa
[20:09] <amundsen> or they are for old versions of ubuntu
[20:09] <OerHeks> if you *need* those newer drivers, use the official one https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[20:11] <OerHeks> unless you want xenial xerus :-D
[20:12] <amundsen> i want to install the official drivers from ubuntu. no ppa
[20:13] <OerHeks> amundsen, then use the driver tool provided
[20:14] <amundsen> i just need a good howto
[20:14] <amundsen> manual
[20:14] <TJ-> amundsen: what does "ubuntu-drivers devices" report?
[20:14] <amundsen> instructions
[20:14] <TJ-> amundsen: "sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall"
[20:15] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[20:15] <OerHeks> why manual ..
[20:15] <OerHeks> but TJ- is right, it can be done
[20:15] <TJ-> manual == howto == instructions != by hand
[20:16] <TJ-> The GUI drivers program is part of ubuntu-drivers-common, and uses ubuntu-drivers itself
[20:16] <TJ-> It's all just Python code
[20:17] <amundsen> TJ-, i have a laptop with nvidia optimus. i've read that i need bumblebee
[20:17] <ismayjavi> hi from Spain
[20:17] <ismayjavi> With Xubuntu
[20:17] <ismayjavi> wht distro likes more?
[20:17] <TJ-> amundsen: No; nvidia-prime replaced bumblebee
[20:18] <amundsen> TJ-, so with ubuntu-drivers, nvidia-prime will install automatically?
[20:19] <TJ-> amundsen: As I said, "ubuntu-drivers devices" will tell you
[20:20] <devslash2> I need help i turned on my computer and the display doesnt seem to be working properly. the screen has a purplish background but no login prompt. i only have 1 monitor plugged in at the moment. I know the monitor is ok because I can boot windows just fine. can anyone please help me fix this
[20:21] <TJ-> devslash2: reboot; hold down shift immediately and wait until you get the GRUb boot-manager menu. Choose Advanced sub-menu, choose Recovery, boot it.
[20:21] <english9090> hello guys i am view internal audio driver not view the realtek audio driver http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8d8da723e05dfed48457d9a10e6c55a4d6add832 alsa log
[20:22] <devslash2> ok then what
[20:23] <TJ-> devslash2: if the system gets to the friendly-recovery text-based recovery menu, you can choose "enable networking" and then "root shell" and investigate further. First stop would be the logs under /var/log/
[20:23] <english9090> hi TJ- i am english9090 http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8d8da723e05dfed48457d9a10e6c55a4d6add832 alsa log for the audio driver
[20:23] <motaka2> Hello  was using ubuntu 12.04, several days ago it ended to a black page several times and I had to restart it several times so it comes up. now it doesn't come up like that anymore. After some tries I decided to choose windows in from OS selection page and it gave me ntldr is missing, what should I do?
[20:23] <devslash2> where in /var/log do i need to look
[20:23] <english9090> now i am view internal audio driver
[20:24] <oldgrump> greetings
[20:24] <english9090> thnks
[20:24] <sebass_rebellion> Hi people. I have a simple question: is there a way to have the new Scrollbars of Ubuntu 15.10 in ubuntu 15.04 wihouth updating the entire OS?
[20:24] <oldgrump> I'm having difficulty getting Lubuntu 15.10 to boot on my computer
[20:24] <Knight80> Hello everyone!
[20:25] <english9090> oldgrump tell the problem
[20:25] <k1l_> sebass_rebellion: you need to upgrade in at least 3 months anyway
[20:25] <Knight80> My Ubuntu Software Centre doesn't show the package "Moovida", why is that?
[20:25] <devslash2> TJ-,  where in /var/log do i need to look
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> !find moovide
[20:25] <k1l_> !info Moovida
[20:25] <Knight80> I'm in Ubuntu 15.04
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> !find moovida
[20:25] <TJ-> english9090: Yes. When we left off yesterday we had proved that the problem is in PulseAudio only. The specific issue is that PulseAudio is NOT recognising 1 of the 2 ALSA audio devices (it only recognises the HDMI-0 attached output) not the internal snd_hda_intel_realtek device. We also made the sound device make sound using the ALSA tools
[20:25] <motaka2> Hello  was using ubuntu 12.04, several days ago it ended to a black page several times and I had to restart it several times so it comes up. now it doesn't come up like that anymore. After some tries I decided to choose windows in from OS selection page and it gave me ntldr is missing, what should I do?
[20:26] <oldgrump> I installed Lubuntu 15.10 onto a flash memory stick yesterday. Now it won't boot on my Late 2011 MacBook Pro.
[20:26] <TJ-> devslash2: I'd start with /var/log/syslog, and possibly also /var/log/Xorg.0.log (if the GUI tried but failed to start)
[20:26] <devslash2> i dunno if it matters but if i run startx in recovery mode i get an error fin locking authority /root/.XAuthority
[20:26] <k1l_> Knight80: its gone since 12.04
[20:26] <Knight80> k1l_ Ok, thank you
[20:26] <TJ-> devslash2: match the timestamps with the last, failed, boot attempt. Those logs may contain entries from the current boot
[20:26] <inteus> !patience motaka2
[20:26] <inteus> !patience \ motaka2
[20:26] <oldgrump> I hold the Option key when powering up, but the memory stick is not shown as a boot disk.
[20:27] <TJ-> devslash2: at the current time, in recovery root shell, the root file-system is mounted read-only, so that would be expected
[20:27] <inteus> !patience | motaka2
[20:27] <TJ-> devslash2: remember that right now, you're 'root' not your regular user
[20:27] <k1l_> Knight80: the project is dead since some time now. you need to search for a different program
[20:27] <oldgrump> The only disk shown is "Macintosh HD", the internal disk.
[20:27] <Knight80> k1l_ Can you recommend me any good media center for Ubuntu to watch DVB?
[20:27] <Knight80> Besides Mythtv, of course
[20:27] <devslash2> i knoq
[20:27] <devslash2> i know
[20:28] <devslash2> brb i just discovered a problem
[20:28] <TJ-> Knight80: I think the old 'xbmc' had a front-end for mythtv-backend
[20:28] <devslash2> my keyboard is messed up
[20:28] <oldgrump> The fkash memory stick has a GPT partition table and the Lubuntu installation is in the first primary partition
[20:28] <oldgrump> *flasy
[20:28] <oldgrump> **flash
[20:28] <Knight80> TJ- Thank you, only that I couldn't make my remote work with Kodi
[20:28] <devslash2> would that cause it to not boot ?
[20:28] <oldgrump> The partition containing Lubuntu is marked bootable
[20:28] <devslash2> TJ-, would a bad keyboard prevent me from getting to the login screen
[20:29] <Knight80> TJ- I couldn't find the option within Kodi
[20:29] <oldgrump> How to get the memory stick shown in the boot menu at startup?
[20:29] <sebass_rebellion> k1l_: He, i know, but i was waiting to upgrade in 16.04, i thought that perhaps was an easy command to obtain the new scrollbars.
[20:29] <TJ-> devslash2: I can't imagine it would, unless te device were causing I/O errors of some kind
[20:30] <wileee> motaka2, Have you tried earlier kernels in grub? ntldr is xp not supported by windows or us.
[20:30] <Knight80> I've got Mythtv working properly with Lirc
[20:30] <k1l_> sebass_rebellion: 15.04 looses support in 3 months. so you need to upgrade to 15.10 before you can upgrade to 16.04. if you dont like upgrading that often better stay on LTS releases (14.04)
[20:30] <TJ-> Knight80: it's a few years since I messed with that stuff, sorry. I just recall trying things out when I set up the projector in the theatre room
[20:30] <Knight80> But I would like to know if there's any other option
[20:30] <oldgrump> Is this the right place for my question? Should I try elsewhere?
[20:30] <TJ-> oldgrump: The correct place; but possibly no-one around right now that knows the answer.
[20:31] <oldgrump> What should I do?
[20:31] <TaChY> maby BYOS locks the bootloader?? or the Harddrive
[20:31] <Knight80> TJ- Ok thank you anyway :)
[20:31] <motaka2> wileee: I talked about ntldr so I could give more info. I want my ubuntu back , i dont care for my xp
[20:31] <TJ-> oldgrump: Mac's a re a sub-species. Generally, for UEFI boot, the device must have an EFI System Partition (which has a unique GUID). Does the flash device have such?
[20:32] <k1l_> oldgrump: is it a macbook?
[20:32] <oldgrump> k1l_: yes
[20:32] <oldgrump> TJ-: The flash memory stick has a GPT partition table with 2 primary partitions.
[20:32] <k1l_> iirc they need some sort of extra work. but i dont know since i dont have applehardware.
[20:33] <oldgrump> The flash memory stick boots fine on a 2005 Dell PC
[20:33] <oldgrump> The 2011 MBP doesn't recognize the flash memory stick as a boot disk
[20:33] <k1l_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[20:33] <TJ-> oldgrump: I'd suspect the 2005 PC isn't UEFI but BIOS, and therefore doesn't need an EFI System Partition
[20:34] <oldgrump> k1l_: I'll check the article, thanks
[20:34] <TJ-> oldgrump: a pastebin of  "gdisk -l /dev/sdX" of the flash device would help here
[20:34] <whodevil> Hello, I'm having trouble updating I think it is because of /boot being full of old kernels. What is scary is that it looks like my current kernel is only partially installed. I'm not sure what to do
[20:34] <oldgrump> TJ-: Will provide. paste.ubuntu.org?
[20:34] <TJ-> k1l_: oldgrump I think it needs Rob's EFI boot helper, refind or whatever its called
[20:34] <wileee> motaka2, I ask about kernels because when you get updates and have some graphic drivers, you need to reload them, the symptoms are what you mention.
[20:35] <TJ-> !paste | oldgrump
[20:35] <whodevil> apt-get purge on some of the older kernels dont seem do do anything
[20:35] <k1l_> yep, i heard of refind on the topic of macy
[20:35] <oldgrump> Okay, I'll be idle while I gather information.
[20:35] <k1l_> *macs
[20:35] <motaka2> wileee: I didnt update it
[20:35] <TJ-> whodevil: first! Don't panic. Double-first: Don't reboot!
[20:36] <TJ-> whodevil: show us "pastebinit <( df /boot; ls -altr /boot/ )"
[20:36] <TaChY> Is it not a Locked Harddrive from BYOS??
[20:36] <wileee> motaka2, I can't help any more than this, maybe others will be better help.
[20:37] <motaka2> maybe this helps:  for a long time when booting up it said you have a problem with /tmp but I didnt care and I pressed the I to ignore it and see my desktop, a few days ago I had to restart it 2 or 3 times to see my desktop
[20:37] <TaChY> Load BYOS and Unlock Harddrive
[20:37] <TJ-> motaka2: having briefly read the back-buffer; it sounds as if the hard drive may be suffering I/O errors and lost data
[20:38] <whodevil> TJ- http://pastebin.com/zt8mmTtF
[20:38] <TaChY> yeah cause its locked by ur BYOS
[20:38] <TJ-> whodevil: what does "uname -r" tell you of the running kernel version?
[20:38] <whodevil> 3.13.0-55-generic
[20:39] <whodevil> when I do a dpkg --list it show that it is not fully installed
[20:39] <TJ-> whodevil: OK, how about removing all but the latest 2 kernel versions (including the current one ) ?
[20:39] <motaka2> TJ-: So what do you suggest me to do ?
[20:39] <TaChY> close ur var/apt...
[20:40] <TaChY> maby its Locked
[20:40] <whodevil> http://pastebin.com/Yn0zuDSy
[20:40] <TJ-> motaka2: boot from a Live ISO image, check for I/O errors in the logs that come from that internal hard drive, test it with 'smartctl -a'
[20:40] <oldgrump> TJ-: gdisk isn't available on the Lubuntu desktop CD. Will parted --list work?
[20:41] <TJ-> whodevil: don't worry about the unconfigured state - that is a symptom of the fact that the initial ramdisk couldn't be created because /boot/ is out of space. We fix that after removing the old kernels
[20:41] <TJ-> oldgrump: Yes, that will, thanks
[20:42] <motaka2> tj does an ubuntu  DVD helps the issue ?
[20:42] <TJ-> whodevil: "sudo apt-get remove linux-{image,headers}-3.13.0-{45,51,52,53,54,55}-generic; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo apt-get autoremove"
[20:43] <TJ-> motaka2: Yes, that will allow the PC to boot from it without touching the hard drive
[20:43] <segun> please i need a help on javascript
[20:43] <inteus> !ask | segun
[20:43] <motaka2> I dont find it if tomorrows I buy a higher version would that work ?
[20:44] <TJ-> motaka2: any 'live' boot DVD/CD or flash device image will be fine
[20:45] <segun> i am running a javascript code on multi step forms , and this is the error message i got  : t (Q
[20:46] <segun> TypeError: $(...).steps is not a function
[20:46] <whodevil> TJ-: I don't think that worked
[20:46] <segun> how can i solve javascript TypeError: $(...).steps is not a function
[20:47] <motaka2> tj ok thank you
[20:48] <whodevil> http://pastebin.com/AYXryU10
[20:48] <oldgrump> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12929359/
[20:49] <ne0> hi
[20:50] <goddard> I am trying to run playonlinux and I get an error about lib 32bit opengl error
[20:50] <goddard> anyone know how to fix it
[20:50] <MonkeyDust> segun  type /j ##javascript    <-- double #
[20:51] <devslash2> TJ-, so ive discovered something. when i press keys on my keyboard its very laggy to respond
[20:51] <devslash2> TJ-, I just bought another usb keyboard to make sure it isnt my KB and the problem persists with the new keyboard
[20:52] <devslash2> TJ-, when i press a key sometimes it doesnt appear on the screen or it will after a delay
[20:53] <TaChY> wow
[20:53] <TaChY> maby Emulation error
  what do you mean please
[20:58] <segun> MonkeyDust please elaborate
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> segun  i mean, better ask in the javascript channel
[20:58] <MonkeyDust> segun  to do so, type /j ##javascript
[21:01] <oldgrump> TJ- and k1l_ : http://paste.ubuntu.com/12929836/
[21:01] <uupz> i installed xfce but i want to switch to openbox that i just downloaded and installed.  however, whenever i logout, it doesn't give me the option to switch to openbox  how do i change tht?
[21:01] <Caplain> whats the latest release of ubuntu that uses the 2.6.x kernel?
[21:02] <k1l_> Caplain: there is no supported release anymore
[21:03] <k1l_> Caplain: 12.04 came with 3.2
[21:03] <MonkeyDust> Caplain  12.04 is the oldest supported release and it has 3.2
[21:03] <Caplain> crap
[21:03] <devslash2> wI guess it bye bye Ubuntu for me...
[21:03] <Caplain> i have an elo apr touchscreen and the driver segfaults for 3.x
[21:04] <TaChY> some one knows a good repo for Davinci Linux?
[21:04] <MonkeyDust> TaChY  wrong channel, not supported here
[21:04] <Xfcej-811-1> Caplain, 11.04   Natty Narwhal    2.6.38
[21:04] <TaChY> k
[21:04] <k1l_> TaChY: this channel here is strict technical ubuntu support. for general chat see #ubuntu-offtopic or ##chat
[21:04] <TJ-> whodevil: looking now
[21:05] <Caplain> Xfcej-811-1, thank you sir. i've been trying to get kodi running on lucid 10.04 and it wasn't fun at all
[21:05] <TaChY> dont found a channel...
[21:05] <Xfcej-811-1> lol Caplain , im not much techincal i just googled it
[21:06] <Caplain> wow, i fail, then. sorry about that :/ google got me lucid and that's been a pain
[21:06] <MonkeyDust> Caplain  10.04 stopped breathing some time ago...
[21:06] <Caplain> define "breathing" :P
[21:06] <TJ-> whodevil: OK, so I think we have to manually 'poke' it by force-removing the older initial ramdisk images to make space.
[21:06] <Xfcej-811-1> Caplain,  i barely upgraded to willy i got some errors
[21:06] <Xfcej-811-1> but i did it
[21:07] <Caplain> ahhh
[21:07] <auronandace> !10.04 | Caplain
[21:07] <TJ-> whodevil: "sudo rm /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-{45,51,52,53,54,55}-generic"  ... then rerun the previous command set
[21:07] <Caplain> !11.04
[21:07] <Xfcej-811-1> !eol
[21:07] <TJ-> oldgrump: looking
[21:07] <k1l_> Caplain: 12.04 is the oldest release still supported
[21:07] <devslash2> TJ-, I could really use your help
[21:08] <Caplain> k1l_, and it doesn't support elo afaik
[21:08] <whodevil> TJ-: I think I'm one step ahead of you, I removed a couple of the older images and it was able to force update! thanks for your support!!
[21:08] <whodevil> now I need to figure out how to not let this happen again
[21:08] <MonkeyDust> Caplain  why do you want to use unsupported releases?
[21:08] <TJ-> whodevil: Great! I was away sorting out 100+ apple pies being cooked :D
[21:08] <Xfcej-811-1> !lts
[21:09] <TJ-> whodevil: keep an eye on the kernels installed. The /boot/ partition is too small really, a known fault with the installer, as well as the not-cleaning-out-old-kernels
[21:09] <Caplain> MonkeyDust, the elo apr driver segfaults in kernel version 3
[21:09] <oldgrump> TJ-: Thanks. The wiki has an entry for 14.04 on MacBookPro8,2, but not 15.10  :(
[21:09] <devslash2> when i try to boot ubuntu i get a purple splash screen and thats it
[21:09] <TJ-> oldgrump: So, as I thought, the Kingston DataTraveler doesn't have an EFI System Partition and therefore isn't EFI bootable
[21:09] <MonkeyDust> Caplain  and what is that used for?
[21:10] <TJ-> oldgrump: as regards 14.04 vs 15.10.... boot-wise you can assume the config and process is identical
[21:10] <oldgrump> TJ-: How did you determine this, and why is it so?
[21:10] <k1l_> Caplain: well, 2.6 is really long time ago. so why not get a patch for the new kernels?
[21:10] <Xfcej-811-1> TJ-, do you know any good script to clean old kernels, last time i upgraded from 14.10 to 15.04 it cleaned by itself but when i upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10 it did not
[21:10] <devslash2> how can i troublseshoot video issues
[21:10] <TJ-> oldgrump: you see in the parted output, for sda its partition #1 is "EFI system partition" but sdb doesn't have one
[21:11] <oldgrump> Yes
[21:11] <jimbow> why would you clean an old kernel?
[21:11] <oldgrump> TJ-: Can a create an EFI partition?
[21:11] <devslash2> how can i troubleshoot video issues with ubuntu 15.04
[21:11] <TJ-> oldgrump: An EFI system parition is a small (< 512MB) FAT file-system containing EFI boot-loader files for every OS installed on the device.
[21:11] <Caplain> MonkeyDust, its a driver to my elo touchscreen. it makes the screen all touchy. a patch? i'd love one
[21:11] <Caplain> got one?
[21:12] <TJ-> oldgrump: Yes, if you free up some space for it by shrinking one of the existing partitions
[21:12] <devslash2> guys ? anyone
[21:12] <Xfcej-811-1> jimbow, i never go back to an old one and i thougnt it might occupy space on the already small boot partition
[21:12] <k1l_> Caplain: talk to elo
[21:12] <oldgrump> TJ-: I can wipe the device and start over. Please direct me to instructions for creating the EFI partition.
[21:12] <jimbow> is writing a kernel hard?
[21:12] <Caplain> k1l_, yeah...i should. but their elo apr's are no longer supported lol....
[21:12] <Caplain> fml
[21:12] <TJ-> devslash2: /var/log/Xorg.*.log is the primary place to look; but also the logs under /var/log/lightdm/ and, if the user starts to log-in but fails, /home/$USER/.xsession-errors
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> jimbow  'hard' depends on how skilled you are
[21:13] <devslash2> TJ-,  i cannot do anything in recovery mode
[21:13] <jimbow> my dad used to beat me as a child and he beat me so hard i ended up in the hospital and became retarded from being hit so much and then my dad felt really bad and now tries to help me out
[21:13] <devslash2> my keyboard doesnt work right
[21:13] <jimbow> but i'm trying
[21:13] <jimbow> i'm not very good but i want to learn
[21:13] <devslash2> keys dont respond or have a very long delay
[21:13] <TJ-> devslash2: OK, so that points to possibly a more serious hardware issue going on
[21:14] <devslash2> well i dont think so i can dual boot windows on the same computer
[21:14] <TJ-> devslash2: I'm wondering if the storage device is/has failed and there are background I/O errors. Can you boot the system using a Live ISO image?
[21:14] <Xfcej-811-1> jimbow,  you want to learn how to write kernels?
[21:14] <devslash2> its something in ubuntu
[21:14] <jimbow> yes
[21:14] <jimbow> but i have poor javascript skills
[21:14] <TJ-> devslash2: Hmmm... Live ISO boot would still help. It'll give you a stable platform to diagnose the problem from
[21:14] <devslash2> TJ-, thats gonna take some time i have to download and flash the iso
[21:14] <Xfcej-811-1> jimbow, good luck with that
[21:15] <devslash2> TJ-, can i use the regular installation ubuntu iso
[21:15] <TJ-> devslash2: in the long run it may well save you time, and frustration. Before you do that, have you tried booting with older kernels listed in the GRUB boot manager menu at startup (under the Advanced sub-menu) ?
[21:15] <devslash2> yes
[21:15] <TJ-> devslash2: same issue?
[21:15] <devslash2> let me try the oldest one
[21:16] <english9090> uff
[21:16] <TJ-> devslash2: if it affects all kernels I have to suspect a faulty hardware device. Have you connected something new recently? I often recommend unplugging all but essential devices, especially anything USB
[21:16] <devslash2> tj when i choose an older one it hangs at loading initial ramdisk
[21:16] <devslash2> no i havent added anything
[21:16] <devslash2> in fact ive removed pretty much everything except the keyboard
[21:17] <jimbow> Xfcej-811-1: how can i learn?
[21:17] <vkay1> a0rora: a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora a0rora
[21:17] <vkay1> Sorry
[21:17] <vkay1> Bad script
[21:17] <TJ-> devslash2: OK... try again, but before you boot the entry, edit it. highlight the entry, press 'E', navigate to the line starting "linux ...", delete "quiet splash" add "text debug", then press Ctrl+X too boot with the modified command line. You'll get lots of kernel messages (debug output) and it won't try to start the GUI, so you can log-in at a console
[21:17] <Xfcej-811-1> jimbow, you must be prepared body and soul, so you have to go to the gym for at least 8 years
[21:18] <Xfcej-811-1> daily
[21:18] <devslash2> ok
[21:18] <jimbow> i didn't expect you to be trolling
[21:19] <devslash2> TJ-,  i did that but all om getting is a purple splash screen
[21:19] <devslash2> justl ike before
[21:21] <TJ-> devslash2: that's the "Plymouth" splash screen; pressing Escape should dismiss it and show the console
[21:21] <devslash2> nope nothin
[21:21] <TJ-> oldgrump: I'm having difficulty finding a simple clean set of instructions for creating just the EFI SP!
[21:22] <TJ-> devslash2: Hmm, possibly hung by that point. Something seriously wrong there
[21:22] <devslash2> I swear every time I give Ubuntu another chance, something happens and it stops working completely.
[21:22] <english9090> help me
[21:22] <english9090> i am install debian
[21:23] <english9090> i am install team viewer
[21:23] <kerdel> Hello can anyone make some stuff clear?
[21:23] <k1l_> english9090: then please ask in #debian for debian help
[21:23] <english9090> i am joke
[21:24] <english9090> i am need helo for my driver uadio in my ubuntu
[21:24] <TaChY> what kind of stoff
[21:24] <Hardcore7> I just got a note that I can upgrade to ubuntu 15.10; but can some stuff break because of it?
[21:24] <oldgrump> TJ-: https://superuser.com/questions/764799/how-to-create-an-efi-system-partition
[21:24] <oldgrump> ^looks promising
[21:24] <bprompt> Hardcore7:    always a possibility, of course
[21:24] <Hardcore7> Like: I'm currently using gnome-shell 3.14; will something change for me?
[21:24] <oldgrump> Still not sure about the details
[21:24] <TJ-> oldgrump: this looks almost identical to your situation, if you amend the existing USB image rather than starting from scratch: http://askubuntu.com/questions/84501/how-can-i-change-convert-a-ubuntu-mbr-drive-to-a-gpt-and-make-ubuntu-boot-from
[21:24] <k1l_> Hardcore7: for murphys law: better have a backup :)
[21:25] <bprompt> Hardcore7:    if it ain't broken, don't fix it, methinks :P
[21:25] <Hardcore7> k1l_: How can I make a full backup?
[21:25] <k1l_> !backup | Hardcore7
[21:25] <anonymous> garibaldi
[21:25] <Hardcore7> bprompt: so true, but I love to experiment as a developer myself ;)
[21:25] <bprompt> !clonezilla | Hardcore7
[21:25] <MonkeyDust> Hardcore7  do you have free space left somewhere, an eternal drive or so?
[21:25] <TJ-> oldgrump: your link confuses the issue with Windows being involved, like many of the pages I looked at
[21:26] <MonkeyDust> external*
[21:26] <bprompt> Hardcore7:    then, you should know by now whether it would or wouldn't break something :), and you'd have the answer I'd think
[21:27] <TJ-> devslash2: can you cause it to drop to the initial ramdisk busybox shell at least? on the kernel command line add "break=init" (and remove "quiet splash") before pressing Ctrl+X to boot the modified command
[21:27] <oldgrump> TJ-:  agreed. I may wipe the stick, make a fresh GPT with small FAT32 part at the top. Tell Lubuntu to put it's bootloader in there
[21:27] <Hardcore7> bprompt: Yes kinda, but i've read they implented gnome in 15.10, does this mean it will automatically upgrade my version to that one? or is it a fork?
[21:27] <TJ-> oldgrump: To install a UEFI the Live Installer MUST also boot in UEFI mode, else it won't have access to the host system's UEFI services
[21:28] <oldgrump> TJ-: Will that make the disk compliant with the MacBook's bootable disk requirements?
[21:28] <MonkeyDust> Hardcore7  use a live dvd or usb to find out what's new
[21:28] <devslash2> TJ-,  i can get it to the recovery shell
[21:28] <bprompt> Hardcore7:     well, and upgrade is an upgrade, not an update per se, so... I'd expect it to replace it, no update it
[21:28] <Hardcore7> I just go upgrade, to lazy for a backup :^) ill report back
[21:28] <Hardcore7> bprompt: ok, thanks ill try it
[21:28] <TJ-> oldgrump: I'm not sure; I've avoided messing with Mac EFI implementations for a good reason :) The Ubuntu Mac/EFI guide seems very comprehensive on the subject though
[21:28] <oldgrump> TJ-: That means I have to boot the 64bit ISO on the MBP, right?
[21:29] <bprompt> Hardcore7:   but get something like "clonezilla", to "image" your partition, in case you don't like the upgrade, or you need to rollback
[21:29] <TJ-> devslash2: Right, but you said the system lagged at that point. I was wondering if the same thing affects the busybox shell before the root file-system is mounted
[21:29] <TJ-> oldgrump: Yes, I believe it would do
[21:29] <oldgrump> TJ-: I mean UEFI isn't even supported on 32 bit OS right?
[21:30] <Hardcore7> bprompt: I'd setup my whole linux installation to perfect in 2-3 days which I did this week. It's worth a try :P
[21:30] <TJ-> oldgrump: Lately it is, yes, we do have the ability to do 32-bit EFI boot ... but I don't think it's on the installer images for i386 (32-bit) as yet.
[21:30] <TaChY> some one knows how to export files from a drive that is overrited wiht a UBuntu?
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> TaChY  you mean recover?
[21:31] <devslash2> TJ-,  i added break=init and some problem
[21:31]  * oldgrump is behind the times
[21:31] <TaChY> yes
[21:31] <MonkeyDust> !recover | TaChY
[21:32] <TJ-> devslash2: It didn't go to the busybox shell, or it did but the keyboard input lagged?
[21:33] <TaChY> mmh not full understand my problem...
[21:33] <TaChY> I erasde my drive with a new installation... is it possible to recover it after this action
[21:34] <k1l_> TaChY: try photorec
[21:34] <Hardcore7> TaChY: did u write anything to the disk yet?
[21:35] <TaChY> yes
[21:35] <TaChY> i need the ISO that was before on drive
[21:35] <devslash2> TJ-, same purple splash screen
[21:35] <TaChY> or the fikes inside
[21:35] <TaChY> files**
[21:36] <Hardcore7> TaChY: hm.. I think you will get poor recovery results if u already wrote new contents on the disk
[21:36] <poe> irc.serenia.net
[21:36] <TaChY> is it not possible to reload the raw before
[21:37] <k1l_> TaChY: no. you can try to read some parts, that are still not overridden, but dont expect too much data to be restored
[21:37] <TaChY> wot to do this
[21:37] <TJ-> devslash2: Are you using Ctrl+X to execute the modified kernel command-line?
[21:38] <k1l_> TaChY: read into "photorec"
[21:38] <TaChY> ok thx
[21:38] <devslash2> no F10
[21:38] <TJ-> devslash2: because it sounds to me as if what is starting is not the modified line - removing 'splash' will prevent plymouth splash screen being started in the initrd.
[21:39] <devslash2> TJ-, ctrl x inserts a new line so i press F10 is that ok
[21:40] <TJ-> devslash2: Ctrl+X ... means hold down Ctrl, press X, release both. Is that what you do?
[21:40] <devslash2> TJ-, yes
[21:40] <devslash2> it adds a newlinw
[21:40] <TJ-> devslash2: In which case the keyboard translation is VERY off!
[21:40] <TJ-> devslash2: what PC make/model is this?
[21:40] <devslash2>  a custom built
[21:40] <devslash2> ubuntu worked fine until the other night
[21:41] <TJ-> devslash2: mobo make/model?
[21:41] <TJ-> devslash2: is your locale English or something else?
[21:41] <devslash2> asus sabertooth 990FX R2.0
[21:41] <devslash2> english
[21:41] <TJ-> devslash2: I guess locale is en_US-UTF-8
[21:42] <TJ-> devslash2: If Ctrl+X causes GRUB to insert a new-line then something is VERY wrong.
[21:42] <devslash2> Xorg.o.log shows a message Display (Samsung (DFP-2)) does not support NVIDIA 3D VISION
[21:42] <TJ-> devslash2: We all get that :)
[21:42] <devslash2> ok
[21:44] <devslash2> TJ-, now when i press ctrl x it adds X
[21:44] <devslash2> x
[21:44] <devslash2> as if i didnt press ctrl
[21:44] <Hardcore7> if ubuntu 15.10 runs on kernel 4.2 and I've already been running 4.2.4, will it install and use the 4.2 one over the one I had?
[21:44] <k1l_> Hardcore7: mainline kernel? it will stay on the one mainline you installed manually
[21:45] <Hardcore7> k1l_: ok, thanks; will my grub config edits persist?
[21:45] <k1l_> depends on how you made the edits
[21:46] <TJ-> devslash2: Does the keyboard have some weird meta keys that alter keyboard actions. What you describe is SO inconsistent it sounds like a firmware/hardware misbehaviour
[21:47] <k1l_> Hardcore7: if you edited the scripts yes, they wll stay the same
[21:47] <Hardcore7> k1l_: great, thank you
[21:47] <devslash2> whno the
[21:47] <devslash2> TJ-, no
[21:48] <devslash2> i dont get it i didnt do a thing and it just started doing this
[21:49] <TJ-> devslash2: silly ideas time now: have you completely powered off the system and forced the capacitors to drain (removed power connector, pressed power button, left to stand for a couple minutes) ?
[21:50] <devslash2> i can try that
[21:52] <devslash2> i have another physical drive with windows that boots normally
[21:52] <TJ-> devslash2: hang on. Are you saying the PC has 2 physical drives, 1 with Windows on, 1 with Ubuntu?
[21:53] <devslash2> yes
[21:53] <loa> TJ-, hello. what version of ubuntu you use?
[21:54] <loa> TJ-, i have problem, that my cursor dissapear in terminal when i typing... i don't like this feature, is there way to disable this?
[21:54] <loa> i have ubuntu 15.04
[21:54] <oldgrump> How to burn a disc from command line in Lubuntu?
[21:54] <NoteOn> hi anyone uses chrome remote desktop?
[21:54] <devslash2> TJ-, does that matter?
[21:54] <TJ-> devslash2: At the beginning of all this I said the hard drive may have I/O errors. When you said Windows starts fine I took you mean both OS are on the same drive. Now, we're back to what I said - the drive has I/O errors and/or is corrupt
[21:55] <NoteOn> my computer mode, it runs as new user. not current user.. is this normal?
[21:55] <TJ-> devslash2: so, I'm going to bet the drive with Ubuntu on had, or still has, I/O errors causing corruption and delays
[21:55] <TaChY> is it the same harddrive??
[21:55] <TJ-> devslash2: which comes back to booting from a Live ISO, and then testing the drive and checking the logs
[21:55] <NoteOn> ubunt-stutio 14.x as xubun 14x
[21:55] <NoteOn> so its like vnc. not x11vnc
[21:56] <TJ-> loa: I seem to recall some GUI terminal emulators have an option in their settings to hide the cursor whilst typing. Check the terminals' options
[21:56] <TaChY> TJ- is it the same hdd
[21:56] <loa> TJ-, i tried, i don't see such feature in gui
[21:56] <NoteOn> with remote mode, google id1 --- google id2 runs normal.
[21:57] <TJ-> TaChY: As devslash2 just said, apparently not. Two drives: 1 Windows, 1 Ubuntu. Ubuntu fails to start and behaves in randomly 'wrong' ways
[21:57] <SimpleAnecdote> Hi, trying to install Ubuntu 14.04.03 (on a live session right now) as a dual-boot with Win10 on an Asus UX501 Zenbook. I keep getting "grub2-efi-adm64-signed failed to install to /target/" - I've not been able to find an answer online. I've disabled SRT on Win10 and disabled SecureBoot via BIOS. Can anyone shed a little light on this?
[21:57] <NoteOn> but my computer mode. google id 1 --- google id 1 ie same ID. then new user.. = new desktop not desktop1,2,3
[21:57] <TaChY> maby drive is locked?
[21:57] <TJ-> TaChY: 'locked'? no, it has/is corrupting data
[21:58] <NoteOn> problem is sound volume control. 2nd user can't control sound.. because main user hold sound dev..
[22:00] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: well, the -signed images are for SecureBoot. The path your report looks wrong in as much as /target/ is the mountpoint for the root of the system being built, but the file would go to /target/boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/. Dropping to a shell prompt and checking some of the installer logs under /var/log/ might help. syslog would be my first port of call
[22:03] <SimpleAnecdote> @TJ: System refuses to open shell after installer crashes. The touchpad responds, so does most of the interface, but nothing opens up or closes down. So I'm not sure how to save those logs. I'm pointing the boot loder installation to my dev/sda1 which holds Windows Boot Manager.
[22:04] <cobradabest> Can someone help me? Ubuntu isn't recognising any game CDs I insert, it only sees them as audio discs...
[22:07] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: that should be correct, if it is the EFI system partition (a small FAT file-system )
[22:08] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: I've seem some PCs recently using NTFS for the EFI-SP though; make sure you don't have such else I can imagine it failing
[22:09] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: Yeah, type efi, size 104mb, used 33mb, system Windows Boot Manager - but no dice.
[22:10] <TaChY> think a linux have to run on Extparts
[22:11] <SimpleAnecdote> TaChY: If that was directed at me - I'm insalling Ubuntu unto /dev/sda5 which is an ext4
[22:11] <TaChY> kk
[22:11] <cobradabest> Can anyone help me with my problem? All discs are being read as audio CDs...
[22:12] <TaChY> installing from disc or usb
[22:12] <SimpleAnecdote> TaChY: Live USB created with latest image from Ubuntu site and UNetBootin
[22:12] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: hmm, you're booting the installer in 'Try Ubuntu' mode ?
[22:13] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: has the same error happened more than once?
[22:13] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: I've tried both by now. Right now I'm in "Try Ubuntu without installing" mode.
[22:13] <TaChY> where it stacks?
[22:13] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: 3 times, twice in "Try Ubuntu" mode, once in "Install Ubuntu".
[22:13] <wileee> cobracommand, Try right click and open with or from the game gui if there is one, in settings is detaols which has a default tab
[22:13] <wileee> details*
[22:14] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: In 'Try Ubuntu' mode you can do things indepedently, is my point. I'd start it that way, open a terminal, do "tail -f /var/log/syslog" then start the installer. At every stage you can then see, in the terminal, what the installer is up to. That might help you catch some clue as to the reason for the failure.
[22:14] <k1l_> cobradabest: you mean windows game cds?
[22:14] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: but before that; have you check the hash (checksum) of the installed image on the USB itself, to ensure no corruption was introduced when it was written?
[22:15] <wileee> cobracommand, Sorry bad tab.
[22:15] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: Will do the tail right now, I hope it doesn't get stuck though. I've done "Check disc for" option from the menu when I booted from the USB
[22:16] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: Good. Nice to see someone that has done the groundwork :)
[22:17] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: if you have a 2nd Linux PC, you could install openssh-server in the 'Try Ubuntu' session, and connect over SSH to it, and then run tail -f ... from there. If the PC locks up you have the log on another PC.
[22:18] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: Excellent idea! I am travelling but indeed happen to have a 2nd Linux laptop with me. I'm hating on this dual-boot but just bought a nice laptop with graphics card and have some Windows only games. I figured I might as well, right... Been exclusively Linux for so long though I forgot what a hassle it was to have Windows on there as well.
[22:19] <TaChY> TJ-: u dont know a tool to recover parts from harddrive that are overwrited
[22:20] <TJ-> TaChY: yes, detailed in the link MonkeyDust pointed you to an hour or more ago. Testdisk/photorec and other friends
[22:20] <k1l_> TaChY: whats wrong with the answers already given?
[22:21] <cobradabest> k1l_: Yeah, Quake 2 to be exact.
[22:21] <TaChY> only files from this ISO found that is running
[22:21] <k1l_> cobradabest: see wine for running windows stuff on ubuntu
[22:21] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: you might want to pipe the remote ssh 'tail' into a local file so you can capture the entire backlog, not just the bit that remains if the installer freezes up
[22:21] <k1l_> !wine | cobradabest
[22:22] <cobradabest> k1l_: I have wine installed, but linux itself would usually recognise the cd and add a directory, but it doesn't...
[22:23] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: Running the tail from the live session right now. My hope is because it's already open, it will remain working because the interface is not stuck, just not opening or closing any windows. If it won't work, I'll probably get disconnected for a bit, and I'll being my 2nd laptop out and start saving the tail data via ssh. What a pain ;P
[22:23] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: Thanks for the help btw!
[22:25] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: same error. No output though
[22:26] <SimpleAnecdote> There was 0 output through the installation until it encountered the issue. And there's nothing now as well
[22:27] <cobradabest> k1l_: Do you know how I can fix the issue with the CDs? Wine works fine, but ubuntu/cinnamon/nemo isn't recognising a game CD, just as an audio one...
[22:27] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: which release is it? maybe its logging to a different file now
[22:27] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: Oh! I managed to see something in the installer command line though! "failed to call apt install grub2..." something
[22:27] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: SystemD has caused many things to change in the logging department
[22:27] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: if you have control still, look under /var/log/apt/ I think it is (history.log)
[22:28] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: Could this be as simple as running "apt-get update" before I install?
[22:28] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: still have control. What should I do?
[22:29] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: well, it could be, but I'd suspect there may be other issues as knock-ons. Worth a try, although you'll have to chroot into the /target/ and ensure the EFI SP is mounted under the chroot /boot/efi/
[22:30] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: /var/log/apt/history.log has no mention of anything to do with "efi"
[22:31] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: on efi, at some point "grub-efi" should be installed, which depends on a bunch of efi-specific packages
[22:31] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: there are a few grub2
[22:31] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: in the chroot do "apt list 'grub*' "
[22:31] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: see what is installed especially
[22:33] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: sudo chroot /target/ - "chroot: failed to run command '/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[22:33] <TaChY> no chance to recover deleted data with these tools... works good if something gonna be lost but not for that i am looking for.. THX
[22:35] <cobradabest> Can someone PLEASE help me? Ubuntu isn't mounting CDs properly!
[22:35] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: Hmmm, maybe the system already unmounted the root file-system? check "mount | grep /target"
[22:36] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: nothing.
[22:36] <TJ-> TaChY: photorec searches the surface of a device looking for anything that looks like a file and tries to recover it to another disk, then its up to you to stitch things back together
[22:36] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: OK, so you need to identify and re-mount it
[22:36] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: do you know the /dev/sdXY of the root-file system, or is it LVM?
[22:36] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: I ran the command "apt list grub*" without chroot and I got a list. I'm not sure it's relevant
[22:37] <belal> Is there any1 can help me connecting a mysql DB from a c++ ?
[22:37] <belal> I tried to build the connector's source from scratch and it still giving me errors
[22:38] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: It's not LVM. Not sure how to find out the /dev/sdXY of the root-filesystem on the live session?
[22:38] <TaChY> but its really nice eraised... dontknow how xp its a betaversion
[22:38] <TaChY> i google fore some hints
[22:38] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: correct; any commands we run like that need to operate inside the chroot of the newly built system
[22:39] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: "sudo blkid"
[22:39] <QCBSD> :)
[22:39] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: Ran that. But don't know to identify the correct one for the live cd
[22:40] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: "sudo blkid | nc termbin.com 9999"
[22:40] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: way ahead of you - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12933137/
[22:40] <SimpleAnecdote> Well, not that ahead ;P
[22:41] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: I assume the target also has Windows on?
[22:41] <oldgrump> To burn a disc from command line: cdrecord linux.iso (https://launchpad.net/~brandonsnider/+archive/ubuntu/cdrtools)
[22:43] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: The EFI has Windows Boot Record. I've got 1 physical drive. I've shrunk down the Windows partition so I'd have a free partition for Ubuntu.
[22:43] <oldgrump> I have to use "nomodeset" kernel line option to boot the disc. Why?
[22:43] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: in which case that output indicates /dev/sda is the target device, and if its UEFI system, /dev/sda1 will be the EFI SP, 3 and 4 are both NTFS, so that leaves sda5
[22:44] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: sda5 is what I'm trying to install Ubuntu unto - sorry, I knew that but didn't understand what we were trying to find out. My apolohies
[22:44] <SimpleAnecdote> apologies*
[22:44] <bs0d> Hello. What would be the proper place to set PATH for a particular user?
[22:44] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: sudo chroot /dev/sda5 - same error...
[22:44] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /target
[22:45] <bs0d> Some forums say pam_environment, some say /etc/environment, some say .profile .. Im confused
[22:45] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: mounter
[22:45] <SimpleAnecdote> mounted*
[22:45] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: then do this (before chroot!) ...
[22:46] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: "for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done"
[22:46] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: now you can do "sudo chroot /target"
[22:46] <k1l_> bs0d: for user i would recomment .profile in users home
[22:46] <oldgrump> crap i forgot to hold down option, now i have to wait for eternity for osx to boot. guess i'll just play minecraft  :(
[22:46] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12933270/
[22:47] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: OK, now do "pastebinit /var/log/installer/debug" (inside the chroot)
[22:48] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: sorry! OUTSIDE the chroot
[22:48] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: should I apt-get install pasteint inside the chroot a swell?
[22:48] <elosz> hello..any editors available where i can edit file directly over ssh rather than copying it back and forth?
[22:48] <cobradabest> How do I fix my fstab file? I think it's broken.
[22:48] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: Grrr, I'm dopey tonight
[22:48] <TJ-> elosz: ssh is a remote terminal shell; just use the tools on the remote
[22:49] <k1l_> elosz: try nano or any other cli editor.
[22:49] <k1l_> elosz: or try ssh -X to load the gui editor on the client machine
[22:49] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12933344/
[22:50] <elosz> TJ-: I need IDE
[22:50] <elosz> okay k1l_
[22:50] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: ok, no clues there! Meanwhile, back in the chroot... !
[22:51] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: "mount -a" and then "pastebinit <( mount )"
[22:51] <cobradabest> Can someone PLEASE help me?!
[22:53] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ- Sorry, I don't quite follow. Run "mount -a" inside chroot. Then exit, and run "pastebinit mount -a" ?
[22:53] <blacklab> Can anyone explain how to add a user to the sudoers list? I think I need to edit a file in /etc/sudousers.d, but I can't find any details on how to edit it.
[22:53] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: no, inside the chroot for everything now. pastebinit ought to be installed, or at least available to install
[22:53] <bs0d> blacklab: consider adding these users to the sudo group
[22:54] <TJ-> blacklab: "man sudoers", or as bs0d said for general access
[22:54] <k1l_> blacklab: put the users into the sudo group. than they can run sudo without editing the sudoers
[22:54] <blacklab> Okay, I'll try adding to sudousers group. thx
[22:55] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: can't install pastebinit while inside chroot (could not resolve us.archive.ubuntu.com). But the result from "mount -a" are: mount: special device UUID=C0E4-066B does not exist
[22:56] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: that is weird; I deliberately had you bind-mount the /etc/resolv.conf inside the chroot so DNS would work
[22:57] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: this suggests the original "for n in ..." may not have fully worked.
[22:57] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: OUTSIDE the chroot, please do "pastebinit <( mount )" so we can check that
[22:57] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: hang on, I might have missed something then. I don't remember mounting /etc/
[22:58] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: "for n in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done"
[22:58] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-:http://paste.ubuntu.com/12933561/
[22:58] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: ahhh, I think you must have missed that command! None of those are mounted
[22:58] <elosz> TJ-: k1l_ I got the error "X11 forwarding request failed on channel 0"
[22:59] <crazydiamond> Hi. Can anyone suggest how to write applet for system tray (or how is it called in XFCE), like clock or XChat indicator, or Skype icon?
[22:59] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: yeah, that didn't appear before. Anyway, here is from inside chroot - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12933585/
[22:59] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: that command mounts the important kernel file-systems into the target
[23:00] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: great, that looks good. Notice /dev/sda1 is mounted at /boot/efi (that is the EFI SP)
[23:00] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: now you can try "apt-get install grub-efi grub-efi-amd64-signed"
[23:01] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: from inside chroot?
[23:01] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: yes
[23:01] <k1l_> elosz: try this http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-fix-x11-forwarding-request-failed-on-channel-0/
[23:01] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ- done
[23:01] <SimpleAnecdote> worked
[23:02] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: OK, in theory it should have added an entry for Ubuntu to the PC's UEFI boot menu
[23:02] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: "pastebinit <( efibootmgr -v )"
[23:02] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: reboot and try it out? Also, has the OS completed to install because the installation stopped when grub failed.
[23:02] <Techspectre> Is it possible to take a trackball mouse and remap the trackball input to scrolling input?
[23:02] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: we'll check that soon
[23:03] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12933655/
[23:03] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: OK, no Ubuntu entry, so I don't think GRUB is done yet
[23:04] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: try "dpkg-reconfigure grub-efi-amd64-signed"
[23:05] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: in theory, it should now do a grub-install and update-grub in the background of that call
[23:06] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: it finished pretty quickly. Re-ran efibootmgr -v - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12933718/
[23:06] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: same
[23:09] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: something not right here; INSIDE the chroot: "pastebinit <( ls -l  /sys/firmware/efi )"
[23:10] <neo__> net
[23:10] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12933826/
[23:12] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: that's good - the system has EFI access. Let's try things manually: INSIDE chroot. "grub-install |& tee /tmp/gi.log; pastebinit /tmp/gi.log"
[23:12] <acer> tell me as WebcamMax program for ubuntu
[23:12] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12933858/
[23:14] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: aha! we make progress. " pastebinit < ( ls -l /boot/efi/ ) "
[23:15] <bazhang> http://en.uptodown.com/ubuntu/search/webcam-max acer
[23:15] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: Woohoo! http://paste.ubuntu.com/12933887/
[23:17] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: OK, now I'm concerned! That should be /dev/sda1, the EFI SP, and should have an EFI/ directory which would also have the Windows boot-loader in a sub-dir. Nothing there now. Previously you showed a 'mount' output that said "/dev/sda1 on /boot/efi type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)" and that seems to have gone missing
[23:17] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: Do "mount -a" again, then do "mount" and see if /dev/sda1 is mounted to /boot/efi
[23:18] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: /dev/sda1 on /boot/efi type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro)
[23:18] <SimpleAnecdote> Still there it seems
[23:18] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: does "ls -l /boot/efi/" show the EFI/ dir now
[23:19] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: No "total 0"
[23:19] <acer> bazhang: program not working
[23:19] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: This is worrying; on the face of it the system can no longer boot itself from that disk, Windows nor Ubuntu
[23:19] <acer> tell me as WebcamMax program for ubuntu :)
[23:20] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: Not good, yeah
[23:20] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: if you recall, efibootmgr reported for Windows its boot-loader is "\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi"
[23:20] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: in case something weird is going on: "umount /dev/sda1; mount /dev/sda1; ls -l /boot/efi/"
[23:21] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: from inside chroot?
[23:21] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: Yes
[23:21] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: "umount: /boot/efiL not mounted
[23:22] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: "umount: /boot/efi: not mounted"
[23:22] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: does 'mount' go on to mount it though?
[23:22] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: hang on... I think I copied the command wrong
[23:23] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: no, it was fine.
[23:23] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: lets look at the file-system table to ensure my assumptions are correct: "pastebinit /etc/fstab"
[23:23] <bazhang> !equivalents | acer have a check
[23:23] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12934025/
[23:24] <bazhang> acer not working wont get much support, you need to be very detailed on what exactly does not work with a pastebin of errors
[23:24] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: ah! it's using the UUIDs. OK "umount /boot/efi; mount /boot/efi; ls -l /boot/efi/"
[23:24] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: if umount fails don't worry; that's just ensuring that the following 'mount' will be doing something new
[23:24] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: "drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 1024 Jul 28 15:01 EFI"
[23:24] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: *YAY* :D
[23:24] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: nothing failed
[23:25] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: "grub-install --verbose |& tee /tmp/gi.log; pastebinit /tmp/gi.log"
[23:26] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12934088/
[23:26] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: YAY?
[23:26] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: Double YAY!
[23:27] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: So now what?
[23:27] <millerti> I'm trying to bring up an ethernet interface, and I'm getting the error, "RTNETLINK answers: File exists \n Failed to bring up eth5."  I do not have any extra gateway entries, so none of the things I find by googling are helping.  Can anyone here help?
[23:27] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: "update-grub |& tee /tmp/ug.log; pastebinit /tmp/ug.log"
[23:27] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12934128/
[23:28] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: *big sigh* ... I *think* that should boot now! Don't reboot for a few minutes though, let me think about it and we may do some more checking first. I need a coffee!
[23:29] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: OK, I'm hanging around here. Thanks again for all the help so far!
[23:29] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: "pastebinit <( efibootmgr -v )"
[23:30] <pressure679> I love the ubuntu terminal for it's transparency, but I do not like it lacks mouse support for cursor movement, a workaround for this?
[23:30] <scott_11> Hi all, is an upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 advisable for a desktop, or is the whole upgrade thing a mess?
[23:30] <Ownasaurus> Hello all. I have a strange problem.  My wireless card can view all available networks.  Two of my home networks are WPA/WPA2.  I can connect to one of them but not the other using the NetworkManager gui. I haven't used linux in a few years so my diagnostic skills are not up to par to diagnose and fix this problem.  i was hoping for some help.  thanks in advance
[23:31] <k1l_> scott_11: upgrades work. they get automated testing. but for murphys law its better to have backups
[23:31] <TJ-> pressure679: get used to using the keyboard? the entire point of a terminal is you want hands-on not keep lifting off to operate a mouse
[23:31] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: check /var/log/syslog and the wpa_supplicant/Network Manager messages in particular
[23:32] <pressure679> TJ-: Using the keyboard is my problem, my fingers are getting sore, guess I should pause for some coffee or something :p
[23:32] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12934195/
[23:32] <TJ-> pressure679: wow! I think so... I'm making a pot now, feel free to have one :)
[23:32] <scott_11> ok, thanks, I have a backup, just interested in upgrading. Should I unload ati proprietary drivers first?
[23:33] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: I think you should try a reboot! Remember to select Ubuntu at the PCs manual boot menu, because currently Windows is the default
[23:33] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: I'll reboot and hopefully log back in to report. I've allowed myself to raise my hopes up.
[23:34] <TJ-> scott_11: I've seem some mention that the AMD/ATI fgrlx drivers have problems for 15.10, you may want to double-check that before starting
[23:34] <scott_11> ok, thanks
[23:34] <oldgrump> what does nomodeset boot option do?
[23:34] <TJ-> oldgrump: prevents Kernel video mode-setting code
[23:34] <Gerowen> ATI drivers are historically horrible in Linux, they only support certain graphics cards, certain versions of X11, etc.
[23:35] <oldgrump> Linux won't boot unless I give that option.
[23:35] <oldgrump> What might that mean?
[23:35] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: OK, let me get on IRC on my other computer so i can continue chatting while i debug this.  thank so much.
[23:35] <millerti> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2300292&p=13378768#post13378768
[23:37] <oldgrump> This is making my grumpy  :(
[23:39] <TJ-> oldgrump: does it start with a black screen without using 'nomodeset' ?
[23:40] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: I think I see something relevant. CTRL-EVENT-DISCONNECTED    reason=3   locally_generated=1
[23:40] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: that rings a bell for me, and I think the bell says "disable wifi device power management"
[23:41] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: but as it only affects connections to 1 AP, that would seem unlikely. Can you pastebin the 100 lines or so of context either side of that message?
[23:42] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: sure, let me get that comp back on the web
[23:42] <oldgrump> TJ-: usually black screen with flashing underscore in upper right. Not a command line, no input accepted.
[23:43] <TJ-> oldgrump: upper-right? hmmm, usually it is upper-left :)
[23:43] <oldgrump> TJ-:  sometimes the boot process freezes with a rainbow spray of colored pixels all over the screen.
[23:44] <oldgrump> I'm trying to boot the desktop DVD on the MPB with nomodeset right now. It's making me grumpy.
[23:44] <TJ-> oldgrump: the issue generally is caused because the GPU and driver aren't fully compatible; with 'nomodeset' the problem that comes up is no hardware accelerated (so-called 3D) graphics
[23:45] <oldgrump> the 14.04 desktop DVD boots just fine with nomodeset.
[23:45] <TJ-> oldgrump: I think you need an Ubuntu/MacBook Pro owner. It might be worth using the Ubuntu forums where there is an area especially for such things. You may find existing solutions, it is a common issue
[23:46] <oldgrump> right
[23:46] <oldgrump> TJ-: I think I should just give up on 15.10. It won't boot  :(
[23:47] <TJ-> oldgrump: no point wasting time and getting frustrated, for sure
[23:47] <oldgrump> Maybe I'll install 14.04 on the USB stick. Or maybe I'll just give up completely
[23:48] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: Thanks for your patience.  pastebin.com/Dpq6d6JZ   .  This includes the regular network failure (SSID without -den)  and the network that works (SSID with -den)
[23:50] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: So good news bad news situation: Ubuntu gets booted into! But I have no Grub selection screen where I can select Windows... Also, I have "install RELEASE" on my Unity bar which seems to want to install the OS?
[23:50] <oldgrump> I learned about Grub2/ISOBoot yesterday and set it up. It was great. Recommended   :)
[23:50] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: And things like scaling my display are not saved.
[23:51] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: Well, with UEFI the entire point is the Motherboard is responsible for providing the boot menu, not GRUB.
[23:51] <rk_> is there a way to make dock icons smaller without myunity?
[23:52] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: Right, sorry. I meant have no selection screen. It just boots straight into Ubuntu.
[23:52] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: I'm not sure about Unity; I don't use it, I use KDE/Kubuntu
[23:52] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: that's because its the default being chosen I'd guess. If you hold down the Shift key jsut before GRUB is loaded you should get the grub boot menu
[23:53] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: I'll solve the Unity issues. But what about the "Install RELEASE" ? Could that be due to the installation not finishing correctly/
[23:53] <SimpleAnecdote> ?
[23:53] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: I've no idea but I doubt it, is this just static text being displayed, or some link to something?
[23:54] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: Link. Opens up installation screen
[23:54] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: that sounds like the ISO installer image has started !
[23:54] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: are you sure its booted from the hard disk? "mount" and check the / device is /dev/sda5
[23:55] <Ownasaurus> Hey TJ- I see you helping so many people.  Thanks for everything you do.
[23:56] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: /dev/sda5 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[23:56] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: ha, you got my attention now. Didn't see the link you provided. is "steinberg-den" the AP connection that fails?
[23:56] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: OK, so it is. Not sure what that link is about then!
[23:57] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: is the installer USB still plugged in? maybe it's created a link to that?
[23:57] <Ownasaurus> no, DEN works.  steinberg (without -den) does not work.  its ok, take your time!  its cool to see you help so  many people
[23:57] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: OK, let me re-read the log
[23:58] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: usb is out. It also doesn't say "Install UBuntu 14.04.03" like it did from the Live USB, it says "Install RELEASE"
[23:58] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: line 61: "<info> (wlan0): device state change: need-auth -> failed (reason 'no-secrets') [60 120 7]"
[23:59] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: if you right-click it to get a context menu, is there a properties item, and does that provide a path to the target that we can use to figure out what it is?