[01:45] oh, so that's popey's default quit message ;) [01:45] TJ-: you should be in bed, sir! (with my respect :) ) [01:48] LOL is that an offer? [01:48] I'm about to start an overnight apple pipe making pipe-line... aiming for another 100 or so pies [01:48] :D [01:49] s/apple pipe/apple pie/ [01:49] i just rode back from a friends house, who usually works on the larger island of Jersey, but is back over for the weekend for his birthday [01:49] That issue of Ownasarus is weird; only the single PC is refused WPA connection to the AP, all other are fine [01:50] MAC address restriction? i doubt anybody does that these days [01:50] * TJ- recalls his only Jersey vacation :) [01:50] :D [01:51] pff you should've come to Guernsey ;) [01:51] that island is just little England [01:51] That's the only thing that makes sense but its disabled according to the GUI. There was an IP address reservation for the MAC though, so I'm suspecting there's something screwy in the stock Netgear firmware [01:51] I was only 9 at the time! [01:51] XD [01:51] sounds like a dualboot user? [01:51] I think I spent most of my time climbing the gun emplacements :) [01:52] He said he's at his parents house, and all other devices connect OK. That says to be its definitely an auth issue. The PC can connect to a 2nd AP in the place, too [01:53] The AP is actively refuses to associate [01:53] weird! [01:53] by the way don't forget the clock change ;) [01:54] apple pie and guns, we are little england [01:54] i just did a double take on my clock, glancing back and forth between my laptop time [01:54] wileee: :D that's how they roll [01:54] ;) [01:54] oh yeah, back to GMT isn't it. No wonder I feel tired [01:54] or we, rather - in the Channel Islands [01:55] wileee: no guns, just the bunkers the Germans left behind [01:55] apple pies, German occupation fortifications... yep [01:55] and the overarching smell of pee! [01:55] XD [01:55] is that what you remember of the gun emplacements? :) [01:55] i met a young lady from Albania tonight who enjoyed speaking of cycling o0 [01:55] TJ-, Yeah I saw that, I used to chase around a state mental hospital that had tunnels as a kid "not a resident", among other cool places [01:56] as of yet anyway [01:56] Really? You remind me of a 'Hamish & Dougal' sketch with Miss Monica Deisel [01:57] wileee: that sounds really cool [01:58] something keeps activating the CCTV but cannot figure out what it is. It's not moths, and the spiders haven't decided to spin a web in front of the lens! [01:58] did i link you guys to my video of the war tunnels down south? [01:58] I don;t think so I have not seen [01:58] https://www.dropbox.com/s/gxdwvfnftvl2nih/VID_20151013_140922.mp4?dl=0 [01:58] tunnels are fab for kids; we've got several around the farm yards I would play in as a kid... and build massive long tunnels with bales in summer and block all the light holes up [01:58] here we are, you might have to download for it to play properly [01:59] they should rename dropbox javascript.box! [01:59] I'm sick of sites that require javascript just to send a bloody file! [02:00] pfft! and now "Install Adobe Flash Player to preview this video." [02:00] idk why flash hasn't been killed off forever [02:00] i blame Google for making pepperflash [02:00] daftykins, Cool looks somewhat accessible. [02:01] btw, thanks for the java TJ-, looks good, but crashes on large numbers :( [02:01] Ben64: segfault? [02:01] wileee: yeah i think i just missed the open season, normally it's open in summer :D [02:01] doesn't say segfault [02:03] http://pastebin.com/mkxLC0AB [02:08] interesting, let me try it... it's probably the whole Java signed thing again, since ff x 8 is -1 [02:09] yeah, and the mask seems a bit off too, or maybe some other problem relating to that [02:10] yeah, parseLong() [02:10] hmmm, really? I tested it with the original value you demoed initially and it flips it correctly in both directions [02:10] make that value 0x7f.... and it works, so yes, signed issue [02:11] shouldn't be a problem though because those initial bitmappings you showed indicated the highest byte is no used in the NFC data - one octet was zeroed [02:11] 0xffffffffffffffff should be 281474976710655, put in 281474976710655 and it returns ffff003f03ffffff [02:11] unless that was just incidental [02:12] Ben64: but no, because 281474976710655 can't be stored :) it'll truncate and flip it to a negative [02:13] it should be able to be stored [02:13] Ben64: this is why us REAL programmers that work with real machines get annoyed with the Java design decision not to support unsigned numbers [02:13] its 2^48-1 [02:13] unless i'm doing something wrong [02:13] 281474976710655 == 0xffffffffffffff ... largest positive integer in a long is 0x7ffffffffffffff [02:15] the most-significant-bit is the sign flag [02:15] 0xffffffffffffff = 72057594037927935 [02:16] how many f's are we talking ? :D [02:16] yeah its confusing [02:16] 16 f's is what I'm referring to [02:16] as in a 64-bit with all bits set is -1 in java [02:16] the highest number the rfid supports would be 281474976710655 = 0xf(12) [02:17] Hmm, that should work then. Let me check ! [02:17] since it moves bits around and not all of them get used [02:17] oh whoops thats my mistake [02:17] ffff3f00c0ffffff is right, since it drops the bits that are unused [02:18] although the latest version returned ffff003f03ffffff [02:18] so i see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12937580/ [02:20] i think java 8 adds unsigned numbers [02:23] No, but there was some static parsing added to Integer and Long [02:25] how did minecraft get written in this? [02:25] how do people make stuff with android :S [02:26] I see why it fails, in the NFC representation the high bits are set even though the 'real' magnitude of the value represented is less, so parseLong() fails [02:27] Hmmm, what tricks can I pull to keep that code clean? I know, write the damn thing in C! [02:28] ha [02:33] I've fixed that by splitting the NFC hex value into 2 and parsing it as 1 separate 32-bit values. But the value is wrong in the end! I've uploaded the source to the same location [02:34] if you guys are ok with having your eardrums violated, my friend has shared an audio stream with me of an RTLSDR fan who is picking up a nearby bar's karaoke night wireless microphone: http://mixlr.com/atouk/ [02:35] oh my dear Tux it's bad XD [02:35] Please don't torture me! [02:36] you have to :) [02:38] oh no [02:38] pink floyd [02:38] don't do it [02:38] Ben64: OK, I had the new split shift and substring offsets completely wrong! I'm fixing those but sitll losing precision due to the signed msb [02:39] D: [02:40] i don't think this guy has ever heard this song before [02:45] Fixed it for complete 16-character hex values, but a shorter hex value will die currently. pull the latest source code file and see what you think [02:55] the first bit still messing with things it looks like [02:55] you guys are missing out on this karaoke [02:56] i'm not actually [02:56] :D [02:56] i'm gonna find the bar and enter :) [02:56] its bad, you're a bad person for making me listen to it [02:56] is it in the uk? [02:56] Karaoke? Where? D= [02:56] lol nah my friend who linked me to it is from Kansas [02:56] oh [02:56] DosTuMai: http://mixlr.com/atouk/ [02:56] Boooo. [02:56] he thinks it's from the east coast, somewhere [02:56] how does he not know [02:57] this is the trouble with software defined radio fans :( [02:57] DosTuMai: we're currently hearing the raw talent of "Yami" [02:57] Ben64: and again, sorted it, it builds the input value nibble by nibble [02:58] Ben64: latest is on my server now [02:59] oh wow i didn't even recognize this song at first [02:59] oh my god Elton John [02:59] FSM's Noodley Appendage... [02:59] * daftykins sways [03:00] I need to stop this before my head implodes... [03:00] "haunting the horny-back toad" - i'm not sure that's the real line?! [03:00] Hunting the horny back toad [03:02] no thanks Rick [03:02] ok Tony, give us some gold [03:03] oh "Toni" :D [03:03] I'm cackling like she just did... [03:05] she just devolved to the na-na-na's [03:05] she's not drunk!? [03:05] maybe she should be [03:05] i'd buy her a round just to sit down :) [03:05] Britney, eh? [03:05] Britney, omw [03:06] i went to a karaoke bar thing once [03:06] never again? :) [03:06] dude went up and chose hank williams jr [03:06] i was like "oh no" [03:06] then he killed it, it was so amazing [03:06] is that country? [03:06] I've been kicked out of karaoke bars for obvious trolling. [03:06] yeah, like old school [03:06] really twangy and stuff [03:07] wait no he did hank williams [03:07] not jr [03:07] I remember seeing Hank at the theatre [03:07] DosTuMai: how does one troll an already offensive event? [03:07] By singing Kate Bush in the worst possible way. [03:08] zomg it died [03:08] ok we're back [03:08] Can't get any worse than Kate Bush! [03:08] don't like this song but she's not bad [03:08] gj britney [03:09] hmm to talk shop for a moment i can't think why this guy has mode setting disabled [03:09] You can get worse than Kate Bush if it's me singing Wuthering Heights. [03:09] pesky KMS is like an enigma [03:09] which guy? [03:09] "asdpoa" [03:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938668/ - line 173 [03:09] Britney i wouldn't want to meet you on a dark night [03:09] people do weird stuff [03:10] daftykins: but that would be expected as the VESA driver can't provide DRI [03:11] fleetwood mac [03:11] daftykins: the problem stems from the nvidia kernel driver not being loaded, I think. [03:11] oh wait i'm too drunk, i only just noticed the nvidia module didn't load [03:11] said so [03:11] we've had words with me before about assistance whilst intoxicated! that's a bad daftykins! [03:11] you should do karaoke and let us listen daftykins [03:11] :D [03:12] uh oh, bad start [03:12] there's an mp3 out there of me singing The Chauffeur by Deftones [03:12] i think i destroyed all evidence, though [03:12] ... don't do a song if you only know the chorus [03:12] XD [03:13] i did get drunk with some friends in a local pub and try a Rage Against the Machine song [03:13] which song [03:13] we forgot just how fast 'Renegades of Funk' got :( [03:13] ha [03:13] our other friend said it was more 'Renegades of Pop' [03:14] I couldn't listen to any more of that... [03:14] wa wa wa wa wa [03:16] DosTuMai: call yourself a Canuck!? [03:16] MY DAWTAH [03:16] sounds like a Jersey thang. [03:16] boston? [03:16] oh that's true [03:16] i'm not hot on accents :( [03:16] i'm still learning the UK [03:17] maybe this is from kansas? [03:17] they sound generic [03:17] I'd say Kansas, too. [03:18] just to let me down ~ [03:18] just need them to say the time or something [03:21] What the... [03:21] she just had a root canal [03:21] XD [03:21] police forces should demand karaoke as a sobriety test [03:21] "no thanks" = sober ? [03:22] No, because I'd troll on the mic sober. [03:23] my something foooor a centrefold [03:23] Ben64: yeah :D [03:26] * daftykins emails Ownasaurus the karaoke link [03:26] :D [03:27] xD [03:28] * daftykins sways to more Elton John [03:28] despite the time change it's now already half 3 [03:28] DosTuMai: what's your excuse!? [03:28] Insomnia. [03:29] oh yeah [03:30] Apple Pie [03:30] DosTuMai: i was talking downhilling with a young lady from Albania of all places, tonight o0 [03:30] Awesome. =D There's some real nice mountains there. [03:31] she was telling me she never had a bike because of the way life was over there when she was young o0 [03:31] now she's over on Jersey (bah!) and riding on the road [03:31] mainly cart horses and wooden trailers [03:31] kept asking me what kind of bike to buy, to ride road over there and also go to Wales for downhill [03:31] i was like, mmmm none? :D [03:31] TJ-: those infernal horseless carriages! [03:32] No, don't road on a DH rig, and - unless you're suicidal - don't DH on a road bike... [03:32] omg James Brown is coming... [03:33] Ricky!? [03:33] And Spice Girls... [03:33] _NO_ [03:33] that's where i draw the line [03:37] So unprofessional... [03:37] they just said sunday night!? [03:37] are... are we on a stream with the future? [03:38] D= [03:38] It's a bar.. they, or you, or both, are pished! [03:38] Something to do with entangled particles? [03:38] more than particles are entangled right now [03:38] Tone, tempo, vocal abilities... [03:38] ooh, meanwhile in real life a couple are having a domestic outside my front door [03:39] Live stream! [03:39] And I'm trying not to wake my gf... [03:39] dafty, ruining your relationships, since 2015 [03:40] She'll just tell me to STFU and try to laugh quieter... [03:40] that's the spirit [03:40] halloween!? [03:41] seriously this stream is from the future [03:41] there have been other Sundays :) [03:43] * daftykins sings Boston - More Than a Feelin' [03:43] xD [03:43] i wonder if there's a good song that could be parodied with Ubuntu [03:43] i'd do that for you guys [03:44] but you have to have my back if the ops ban me again [03:44] Same Britney? D= [03:44] hasn't she done enough :( [03:45] Obviously not! [03:45] poor lass, born tone deaf [03:45] U boon to be free ? [03:46] B-b-b-bash to the kernel. [03:46] you just reminded me of the guy that refused to take advice from me because i didn't know "how to get bash from the liveCD" [03:47] which it transpired was this guy meaning how to run a terminal :D [03:47] Yeah, I remember him! [03:47] XD [03:47] We get all sorts! [03:48] "sorry daftykins you don't sound professional enough to me, you don't use the wrong terms for things like me!" [03:48] xD [03:48] alright i think that's my cue to head to bed, as much as Britney is entertaining me [03:49] Yes, I'm going to stop listening because this is making what's left of my brain ache... [03:49] maybe if we keep going we'll regress and try to install DOS [03:49] could be a happier life... who knows? [03:50] * DosTuMai NP: Sometimes I see - Atomic cat [03:51] Much better. [03:51] Wish I didn't put 'dos' on my highlights... [03:52] Sometimes I see Fukushima? [03:52] Song title & artist... [03:52] too soon. [03:53] yeah i was just being... tipsykins [03:53] i'm so glad this channel is logged in public 8D [03:54] So no random hentai tentacle links? D= [03:59] logging doesn't exclude that :P [04:01] Awesome. Well, I'm going to try & sleep. Night all. o/ [04:03] good morrow ma'am \o [04:20] good morning to all [05:00] ah another star trek with dueling good and bad kirk's, twice the overacting ;) [05:00] wileee: :p [05:37] sunday calmness :p [09:12] Good morning. [11:07] good noon to all [11:12] o/ [11:13] hi lordievader and daftykins [11:13] Hey lotuspsychje [11:14] http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-Phone-Ex-Screen [12:13] ioria: good afternoon mate [12:13] lotuspsychje, Good Afternoon to all ..................... [12:29] hi tieinv [12:55] lotuspsychje, hello [13:11] bll have a great sunday guys [13:33] many steam questions, these last few days [13:43] I'm steaming already! [13:43] I steamed some buns ... [13:44] I'm doing an apple pie marathon :) [13:44] Trying to turn all the orchard apples into something tasty and frozen :) [13:47] oddly, i'm unable to run in 15.10, wmware player guest ... i want to try lxd [13:48] to run lxc* [14:05] Wow! Now Ubuntu is to blame for having to walk 10 blocks? [16:29] good evening to all [16:32] hi there [16:34] hey ioria :p [16:34] ioria: whats the time in italy? [16:35] lotuspsychje, so and so.... usually it's still warm... but nowdays isfreezing [16:35] ioria: and hows the weather :p ? [16:35] oh... [16:35] hahaha [16:35] thetime is 17:35 :þ [16:35] 17h35 here and also freezing [16:35] cool [16:36] yes ... legal/solar time [16:36] .be not so far away from you [16:36] my friend travel to rimini with the car in 14hours [16:36] wow.... rimini is fun .... [16:37] ioria: my friend has familly there [16:37] Emilia-Romagna is oneofthe best region in Italy [16:37] why do so many italians say !list in #ubuntu? [16:37] because many many italians like big warez channels :p [16:38] MonkeyDust, really idk ... i heard of an italian programmer wrote something related to it ... [16:38] they look at you MonkeyDust and think your a serving bot :p [16:38] I don't know why we just don't have ubottu respond with a list of useful links [16:38] Rather than the negative 'warez' reprimand [16:39] lotuspsychje i'm only a bot, please don't think i'm intelligent [16:39] hahaha [16:39] :P [16:39] * lotuspsychje feels so n00b now [16:41] * lotuspsychje throws a xenial xerus is MonkeyDust's neck [16:44] * MonkeyDust strips its skin and makes it a pair of gloves [16:44] * OerHeks is now known as OerHeks [16:45] So it's now XXX :) [16:45] lol [16:45] TJ-: you thinking of latex gloves? [16:45] I think an "Ubuntu XXX" release would double user numbers [16:45] hehe [16:45] lotuspsychje: I wasn't but now that you mention it... [16:47] :p [16:47] also KidUbuntu ... dedicated to children [16:47] lolz [16:48] ioria edubuntu is supported release, for kids [16:48] with HUGE icons .... [16:48] oh yes [16:48] i installed once [16:48] grannybuntu would be something... [16:48] i meant something simplified [16:49] yep .... for my granpa.. icannot use a cell phone [16:49] *he [16:50] bbl dinner [16:51] bon appetit [16:53] 请享用 [17:23] i can see motaka is going to be one of those high maintenance question askers [17:24] demands explanations of every single command before running them *sigh* [17:28] Yes, and ignoring full /tmp whatever [17:30] i thought it got cleared on every boot? [17:30] how is it that some people end up with a full one or having a strangely small one? [17:31] i seem to be using 500KB out of 37MB on mine, server install [17:49] anybody worked in computer stuff, Bashing-om you've worked and programmed and or been a sys admin right? [17:51] i also don't get why some people have the computer problems they have [17:51] ioria: grazie [17:52] Eric^^ what's up ? [17:52] EriC^^: Professionally, communications technical controller . [17:53] daftykins, EriC^^ Bashing-om OerHeks good evening :p [17:53] heya, how's it going? [17:53] fine fine tnx [17:53] EriC^^: i do support for a living? [17:53] i don't want to do computing anymore, professionally [17:53] I looked when I re-joined the channel .. and I thought .. Hail hail, the gang is all here . [17:54] MonkeyDust: i think people are their own worst enemies, especially the ones we see on here :) [17:54] i want to know how much the stuff learnt in uni is important [17:54] Bashing-om: :D [17:54] yeah full house today, is it the winter bringing us all in? :) [17:54] EriC^^: im hardware guy, but worked after hours not proeffsional and did back support for mediamarket [17:55] would you say the stuff learnt in uni is mandatory for working in a professional position? [17:55] EriC^^: well i can certainly say my networking degree was useless, i learnt some theory of protocols... had lab sessions that forced me to learn more Linux usage... that was about it [17:55] nah i think you'd learn more on the job than in education [17:55] Always [17:55] but then i've always been self-taught so education for me was more getting that piece of paper than learning much [17:55] IT is more about intuition based on long experience [17:55] EriC^^: ICT titles are also very exagerated for jobs [17:55] TJ-: +1 [17:56] they ask a big list of capabilities [17:56] wileee: good evening [17:56] Before I retired, when I was taking on new employees... graduate applications were marked down compared to slef-starters [17:56] would you think a company would hire someone without a degree in cs? [17:56] they all say degree in cs or equivalent at the bottom [17:57] EriC^^: I certainly would [17:57] EriC^^: depends on your backgrouns really [17:57] depends on your experience i guess, often they want you to have a degree for more than just the educational aspects [17:57] EriC^^: I did 5+ years @ university to support my professional knowledge . In my case, not a good thing . best done in-house through company assetts . MHO ! . [17:57] EriC^^: If someone can demonstrate they CAN do rather than just use lots of TLAs [17:57] many companys also hire ex-hackers with no degrees [17:58] EriC^^: where Uni comes in, is if the person did Comp Sci so they have a glimmering of understanding of what goes on underneath everything [17:58] yeah [17:58] I generally found with new graduates we had to retrain them for about 12 months [17:58] EriC^^: are you considering an ICT job? [17:58] that's what i mean about the first question [17:59] yeah lotuspsychje [17:59] EriC^^: wanna share us what kind? [17:59] I'd always want someone who wants to take things apart to find out how they work. At my companies I had a playroom with Lego and Mechano and so on... and would ask applicants to build anything they liked in 10 minutes [17:59] i'm getting pretty bored with no job [17:59] butbutbut then we wont see you on irc anymore lol [18:00] i like linux'y stuff, i'm not very keen on programming stuff, i'm finding alot of php/mysql/java jobs though [18:00] and some linux admin jobs [18:00] EriC^^: with your hardware/uefi knowlegde you could repair pc as technician right? [18:01] i guess yeah but there's no job like that here [18:01] lol :D 1-800-eric-support [18:01] EriC^^: or maybe maintain a php website? [18:01] webmaster [18:01] yeah there's a lot of jobs in php java sql stuff [18:02] TJ-: other jobs come in mind for eric? [18:02]