[00:00] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: line 41: wlan0: "Authentication with 00:14:6c:da:55:d0 timed out."
[00:00] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: It's ubiquity left overs. Probably because the installer didn't finish
[00:00] <oldgrump> TJ-: Thank you for all the effort you put in on my behalf. I'll drop a note if I have success.
[00:00] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: Can you do "pastebinit <( sudo iwlist wlan0 scan )"
[00:00] <SimpleAnecdote> I just did "sudo apt-get remove ubiquity" and it's gone.
[00:00] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: what do you believe that means?  about 5-ish other devices in this house can connect to it.  do you think its a problem on the router end?
[00:01] <TJ-> oldgrump: good luck with that - all the difficulties I hear with Macs makes me glad I didn't decide to adopt one back in 2007 :)
[00:01] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: well right now authentication fails, and it could be failing due to not being able to maintain a connection to the AP
[00:01] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: ubiquity was INSTALLED in the target!?!?
[00:02] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: yeah
[00:02] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: was that something you did by accident when we had the chroot?
[00:02] <oldgrump> TJ-: Thanks. As a long time Apple II fan I weep for Apple's astronomical success.
[00:02] <gsilva> Hello all. I'm new to JS and I am interested to learn more to eventually master it. Be aware, I'm a complete stranger to programming. Can someone help me out for some time?
[00:02] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: Absolutely not
[00:03] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: I'll listen out for others describing that then; would be fun to rib the ubiquity/cd-image maintainers if they've got it installing itself into targets :D
[00:03] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: paste.ubuntu.com/12934729
[00:04] <TJ-> gsilva: This channel is for Ubuntu OS support only; for general or specific programming there are other channels on Freenode, but you're probably best starting with general tutorials and most importantly reading existing, simple, code to get the feel of it
[00:05] <gsilva> Thanks, TJ-. I feel I'll only learn by getting my hands "dirty", hence my question. I don't have any particular question, but I can forward this to a devel channel
[00:05] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: 1. Thank you so much! Can I buy you a coffee/beer for all this support? Are you a Canonical employee? 2. I'll try and write a StackOverflow on how we got around the issue eventually. I'll probably need your professional eyes to go over it, but it seems like we should pass this knowledge forward. This is a new laptop, but prerty popular. I've seen some people online with the same issue and no answers.
[00:05] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: 3. I'm going to restart and do some things, I'll come back on and let you know everything is successful (including booting into Windows)
[00:05] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: the only thing I notice about 'steinberg' is it is offering both WPA2 and WPA. I suspect that is confusing the wpa_supplicant on your PC
[00:05] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: good luck, and enjoy :)
[00:06] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: not canonical, just another user like you.
[00:06] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: True- it is an old wrt54g and i chose it to allow both types of authentication.  i did not think it would be a problem though
[00:06] <millerti> I'm upgrading over two Ubuntu releases, so I have to do two do-release-upgrade's.  Do I need to reboot in between?
[00:06] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: maybe there's a setting can be added to Network Manager config files to force wpa_supplicant to use a particular version
[00:07] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: from my router: "Security Options: WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES]"
[00:07] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: OK, i'll look into it
[00:07] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: As a test can you change that to WPA2 only, and see if the client is OK then.
[00:09] <TJ-> millerti: Yes
[00:09] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: http://askubuntu.com/questions/337615/after-updating-ubuntu-now-i-have-a-install-release-icon-in-the-desktop-what-s
[00:09] <millerti> TJ- Thanks.
[00:10] <Ownasaurus> sorry lost net
[00:10] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: it was a great thought, but unfortunately my findings contradict that. i changed it to wpa2 only, and i have the same issue i believe
[00:10] <millerti> One more question.  I'm getting all these errors about packages not being configured.  Like, "nfs-kernel-server depends on nfs-common (= 1:1.2.8-9ubuntu8.1); however: Package nfs-common is not configured yet".  What do I need to do to fix that?
[00:10] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: that seems to explain it then
[00:10] <ambitos> Hello everyone!
[00:10] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: OK, these things are a process of ellimination.
[00:11] <Ownasaurus> not a problem, i'm willing to do whatever it takes to help diagnose
[00:11] <linuxnewbie22> Hey, I'm trying to create a bootable usb on linux, but both unetbootin and startup disk creator don't work. Is there another way to do it?
[00:11] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: so, what we need is to gather more verbose logging from wpa_supplicant
[00:11] <SimpleAnecdote> TJ-: Yeah, it says explicitly that ubiquity is installed on target
[00:11] <Ownasaurus> i think i know how to do that
[00:11] <Ownasaurus> i will disable network manager, run it with -vv or something, and then pastebin it?
[00:11] <Ownasaurus> run wpa_supplicant*
[00:12] <goddard> whats a good linux based hardware appliance style cloud USB or ethernet device?
[00:12] <ambitos> is it possible to read NTFS file system via LinuxMint?
[00:12] <goddard> ya
[00:13] <ambitos> Super! Can you send me a link
[00:13] <ambitos> ?
[00:14] <goddard> ambitos: it doesn't take a link
[00:14] <goddard> ambitos: you just click on the drive in nautilus
[00:14] <taco> woohhooo im online finally
[00:14] <TJ-> SimpleAnecdote: I've done a lot of work with programming ubiquity; ubiquity operates outside the chroot, so the mention that it is installed in the target normally is incorrect; it seems like when something goes wrong it somehow gets installed as a result of errors though, although figuring that out is sending my brain into a spin!
[00:15] <Guest64570> lol
[00:15] <ambitos> I need to install some tool or some software?
[00:15] <Guest64570> yes
[00:15] <goddard> ambitos: no
[00:15] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: in that syslog it says (line 20) "<info> Config: added 'key_mgmt' value 'WPA-PSK'" so we know what it was trying
[00:15] <rk_> why is whonix gateway with tor anonymous?>
[00:15] <goddard> ambitos: just click on the drive in nautilus
[00:15] <oldgrump> Is there any reason not to use "noatime"?
 Ok thank!
[00:16] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: I wonder if the client is trying to use TKIP rather than CCMP
[00:16] <millerti> Crap.  How do I reboot my machine?  I get "command not found" for both reboot and shutdown after upgrading.
[00:17] <goddard> millerti: sudo reboot should work
[00:17] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: paste.ubuntu.com/12934993/
[00:17] <millerti> goddard:  Nope.
[00:17] <millerti> This doesn't work either:  sudo /sbin/reboot
[00:17] <goddard> millerti: then you probably deleted your file system
[00:17] <Ownasaurus> millerti: shutdown -r now  ?
[00:17] <millerti> There is no shutdown command.
[00:18] <goddard> your running in memory then
[00:18] <goddard> turn the power on and off then
[00:18] <oldgrump> millerti:  there may be a "reboot" command
[00:18] <johnny_linux> sudo halt
[00:19] <goddard> pray you didn't delete your drive
[00:19] <millerti> Other stuff is there!
[00:19] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: wpa_supplicant, line 235 "wlan0: Event ASSOC_REJECT (13) received"
[00:19] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: does the wrt54g have some kind of MAC-based authorisation enabled?
[00:19] <oldgrump> johnny_linux: does "halt" tell acpi to power down?
[00:19] <goddard> millerti: how did stuff get deleted?
[00:19] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: the laptop used to be named ownamini and i had its mac address reserved.  but not required
[00:20] <millerti> I just upgraded to vivid, that's all.
[00:20] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: i renamed it owna-mini (the hyphen).   but certainly it still has the same mac address
[00:20] <kjoe666> ?
[00:20] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: however, i removed that entry hoping it would fix this.  that reservation is no longer in the GUI
[00:20] <goddard> millerti: doesn't sound good then
[00:20] <goddard> millerti: you might have to do a hard reset
[00:20] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: but yes i am also suspicious it may be the router....
[00:21] <kjoe666> hi everyone, im new to linux
[00:21] <goddard> millerti: hope your stuff is there
[00:21] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: that'd be for the DHCP side though; I'm on about the Wifi security side
[00:21] <goddard> otherwise save your home drive and install fresh
[00:21] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: I see.  no there is no mac address blacklist or whitelist
[00:21] <kjoe666> anyone know where to find some porn
[00:21] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: I have a wrt54g too; not used it in a while, but I seem to recall with dd-wrt there's a wifi security tab with various ways of enabling restrictions
[00:22] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: can other clients connect to that AP correctly?
[00:22] <oldgrump> kjoe666: google
[00:22] <Ownasaurus> yes, many
[00:22] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: got to think there's something lingering about this PC then, causing a reject
[00:22] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: just to make things even more confusing - the steinberg-den is hardwired to steinberg.    so i'm getting an IP from the steinberg router no matter how i connect.  but only from wireless AP #2 - -den
[00:22] <kjoe666> oldgrump im new to linux can you help me out?
[00:23] <oldgrump> kjoe666: prolly not. what's up?
[00:23] <rk_> lol
[00:23] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: that makes sense; AP association is orthogonal to DHCP leases
[00:23] <kjoe666> idk how to do anything
[00:23] <millerti> I'm watching the console via ipmi, and it says, Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init, so the Ubuntu upgrade totally screwed up.
[00:23] <rk_> can someone please explain why whonix works??
[00:24] <oldgrump> kjoe666: use the mouse. point and click.
[00:24] <kjoe666> ok
[00:24] <kjoe666> what are some benifits of linux?
[00:25] <rk_> free software
[00:25] <kjoe666> like?
[00:25] <rk_> go to the software store and check it out
[00:25] <oldgrump> kjoe666: you get the opportunity to learn how computers work (or don't work)
[00:26] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: sorry i lost connection for a while after changing a router setting.  last think I saw you say was "..., causing a reject"
[00:26] <max1> how can i use usb to back up an ubuntu system to windows 8? I can use virtualbox in windows
[00:26] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: that makes sense; AP association is orthogonal to DHCP leases
[00:27] <Ownasaurus1> the old me left lol
[00:27] <oldgrump> max1: the whole system? maybe dd or partimg.
[00:28] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: now, I've just read something interesting. Does the AP's pass-phrase contain any weird characters? Some people report your issue when the pass-phrase has @ # $ / | and other symbols in it. Changing that on the AP fixed the issue for the client :)
[00:28] <ambitos> maxl: I had Ubuntu in Windows 7 via virtualbox
[00:28] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: very interesting.  no only abcABC123 characters
[00:28] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: the other side of that is to double-check the saved passphrase on the client is what you think it is
[00:29] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: the saved passphrase is definitely correct because its the same as steinberg-den.  i copied and pasted to confirm i typed it correctly
[00:29] <Ownasaurus1> and tried a few times
[00:29] <edisto> i just installed ubuntu and am trying to get to a terminal screen so I can install kernel 4.3. When I hit ctrl + alt + f1 to get access it keeps flashing this on screen "Stopped User Manager for UID 120". I can't launch failsafe normally either since my Fury X is not supported. How do I get to a clean terminal to download and install kernel 4.3?
[00:29] <c0mcast> who got the new kernel update?
[00:30] <max1> oldgrump: not the whole system, just things in /home
[00:30] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: "sudo egrep -A 6 '\[wifi-security\]' /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/* "
[00:30] <oldgrump> max1: This is a very simplified tutorial video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77muEvFpX1I
[00:31] <oldgrump> max1: If you need more control, many people swear by rsync
[00:31] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: Those reports said this happened when the WRT54G had Mac Filtering enabled on the WiFi side
[00:31] <kjoe666> what is a GNOME?
[00:32] <c0mcast> its he thing in front of youre house
[00:32] <c0mcast> just kidding
[00:32] <c0mcast> its a desktop environment
[00:32] <allen> anyway to change default folder color in ubuntu-mate 15.10?
[00:32] <oldgrump> kjoe666: A graphical desktop environment
[00:32] <max1> oldgrump: thanks ... i got a double usb cord so i was hoping to be able to browse the ubuntu hard drive from a virtual linux os. but i don't where to find the usb drive there
[00:33] <oldgrump> max1: Not sure what to advise. It depends on how your VM is configured.
[00:33] <oldgrump> sorry
[00:36] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: egrep returned nothing   but i think im in a weird state right now.
[00:36] <Ownasaurus1> i did modprobe -r wl && modprobe wl
[00:36] <Ownasaurus1> now i think i need to reboot cause i have no internet :p
[00:36] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: is the Network Manager WiFi connection a per-user connection possibly?
[00:36] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: my command assumed it is a system-wide connection
[00:37] <wintolinux> Hello, can someone help me install ubuntu USB ?, but I'm trying not start usb
[00:37] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: im not sure what that means exactly
[00:37] <Bashing-om> edisto: Try key combo ctl+att+t at the desktop to launch a terminal interface.
[00:37] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: NM can save connections for the entire system, or just for the current user.
[00:37] <Ownasaurus1> wintolinux: do you know if it was marked as an Active // bootable partition?  do you know how to get to a boot menu on your computer?
[00:37] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: The command I gave you searched the directory where the system-connection config files are kept
[00:38] <edisto> Bashing-om: I can't get to the terminal I am stuck at "Stopped User Manager for UID 120"
[00:38] <edisto> Bashing-om: I mean desktop
[00:38] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: if the wifi connection for 'steinberg' is a per-user connection it'll be saved somewhere under $HOME instead
[00:38] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: however, if it IS a system-wide connection, then NM has not saved the passphrase
[00:39] <Bashing-om> edisto: Is this trying to boot the installed OS, or booting up the installer ?
[00:39] <kjoe666> my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:39] <wintolinux> Ownasaurus1 Yes, getting the boot menu but what happens is that ubuntu detected only detected windows
[00:39] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: well the egrep is returning nothing unless i am making a typo
[00:39] <Ownasaurus1> wintolinux: are you in windows right now with the USB drive in?
[00:40] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: "sudo ls -l /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/" will list all the configs
[00:40] <wintolinux> Ownasaurus1 Yes,
[00:40] <edisto>  Bashing-om: the installed OS. Launching for the first time. My Fury X isn't supported in 4.2 kernel. So i'm trying to install kernel 4.3 but I can't stop it from flashing
[00:41] <Ownasaurus1> wintolinux: i would follow a guide like this: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/71432-partition-mark-active.html  to make sure you marked the USB drive as active.  this will make sure it is bootable
[00:41] <Bashing-om> edisto: One can set a boot parameter in grub to boot to terminal .
[00:41] <Ownasaurus1> wintolinux: either the GUI or diskpart method should work
[00:41] <kjoe666>  my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:42] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: yes it is listing the 3 i have tried to connect to ever on this machine
[00:42] <edisto> Bashing-om: ahhh... thanks i'll look into that I guess that will be my option out
[00:42] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: want the file pasted?
[00:43] <wintolinux> Ownasaurus1 Okay, ill try.
[00:43] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: the only difference between them is the network that works has the line "auth-alg=open"  and the other network does not
[00:43] <Bashing-om> edisto: Do ypi know how to boot to the grub boot menu and from there set the boot parameter ? Booting to terminal seems like a good way to go at this point .
[00:44] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: and of course the id and uuid and ssid
[00:44] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: no, but look into the one representing the 'steinberg' AP and check "psk=" is correct
[00:45] <edisto> Bashing-om: I know how to get to grub just not how to set the boot parameter
[00:45] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: the psk is not listed, although it has key-mgmt=wpa-psk   and   psk-flags=1
[00:46] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: on my WPA2-PSK connection I don't see an auth-alg, and 'open' sounds like it refers to an unencrypted AP
[00:46] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: are you prompted for the key when the PC tries to connect?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> edisto: 'e' key for edit mode -> kerenl boot parameter screen. arrow down to the line starting with linux and across to "quiet splash" replace these terms and all after with systemd.unit=multi-user.target . key combo ctl+x to continue the boot process to TTY1 .
[00:48] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: "wlan0: WPA: using KEY_MGMT WPA-PSK" indicates it is at least trying to use the correct algo. No info in that log if it passes a secret though
[00:49] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: yes, every time it fails it re-asks for the key.
[00:49] <kjoe666>  my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:49] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: im going to try and mac spoof to rule out my router somehow filtering it out (even though mac filtering is disabled?)
[00:50] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: Ah, of course! key will only be saved if a connection is made
[00:50] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: i just have a strange feeling that makes no sense
[00:50] <edisto> Bashing-om: thanks much
[00:50] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: actually the steinberg-den does not have the password in its config file either!  must be stored elsewhere
[00:50] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: I'm going to pull in the wpa_supplicant source-code, see what status code 16 means
[00:50] <Bashing-om> edisto: :)
[00:50] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: hardcore.  thanks.
[00:52] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: and mac spoofing did nothing :P
[00:53] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: i don't suppose you do xvnc hosuecalls?
[00:53] <kjoe666>  my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:53] <kjoe666>  my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:53] <kjoe666>  my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:53] <kjoe666>  my school gave everyone chromebooks for school and stuff, so you think i would get into trouble if i put linux on it?
[00:53] <Ownasaurus1> joe you'd have to ask your school if they care how you use it
[00:54] <kjoe666> ok
[00:54] <mido> hey
[00:54] <Ownasaurus1> joe just ask your IT guys, they're probably cool
[01:00] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: be back in 1-2 mins, making naother router change which will likely reboot it
[01:03] <Ownasaurus> back
[01:05] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: which ubuntu release is that? the 15.10 source doesn't contain the nl80211 "Connect event" string
[01:06] <wileee> kjoe666, it has linux in it
[01:06] <kjoe666> ?
[01:07] <kjoe666> wileee, what do you mean?
[01:09] <morick> anyone familiar with encrypting drives using cryptsetup?
[01:09] <morick> I need to remove encryption from my external drive
[01:09] <morick> but I'm having a bitch of a time
[01:11] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: sorry was doing other diagnostics. its 14.04 LTS and technically kubuntu.  i hope thats not a problem
[01:11] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: OK, got it, wpa 2.1, in function mlme_event_connect()
[01:11] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: no; I use kubuntu too
[01:11] <manoj> manoj
[01:12] <Jef91> Anyone know if there are nm-applet 1.0.x packages any for ubuntu 14.04?
[01:12] <morick> I tried sudo cryptsetup luksRemoveKey /dev/sdc1 but I got this warning
[01:12] <morick> sudo cryptsetup luksRemoveKey /dev/sdc1
[01:12] <morick> does that mean its terminal is going to format my drive?!
[01:12] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: not really helping; looks like the status code comes from the network or kernel driver itself: "event.assoc_reject.status_code = nla_get_u16(status);"
[01:13] <manoj> j
[01:13] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: do you think it is these?
[01:13] <Ownasaurus> http://www.aboutcher.co.uk/2012/07/linux-wifi-deauthenticated-reason-codes/
[01:17] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: also if it helps, this laptop authenticated fine from windows when it was still installed that same day
[01:17] <ambitos> when receive a message "Unable to mount location Can;t mount file" in a external hdd
[01:18] <ambitos> in linuxmint
[01:18] <ambitos> what can I do to fix it?
[01:18] <wileee> !mint | ambitos
[01:18] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: no, they are higher level - matching the syslog 'reason' codes. status_code comes from the kernel device driver. What device driver is that device using? Use "lspci -nnk" to identify the correct device and kernel module in use
[01:19] <ambitos> okk I am sorry
[01:20] <wileee> ambitos, No biggie, you want their help, no one mentioned earlier the general rule on derivatives.
[01:20] <ambitos> A last question to help me to desighied whitch linux I must install to my pc. Which is the best Linux ever?
[01:20] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: i believe i am using wl
[01:20] <wileee> the one you like
[01:21] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: and i think i tried a few others yesterday while trying to debug.
[01:22] <Eduard_Munteanu> ambitos, there isn't a consensus on that
[01:23] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: so its a Broadcom device?
[01:23] <wileee> ambitos, I suspect you might want support, so maybe consider that.
[01:23] <ambitos> Eduard_Munteanu: Ok thank you!
[01:24] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: yes, boardcom 13e4:4727 rev 01
[01:26] <Ownasaurus> Broadcom, rather * :P
[01:30] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: as i feared; the code is binary blobs
[01:30] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: so no clue there; I still think its a router issue though!
[01:31] <xieyi> I am using kde environment the plasma network manager doesnt show after I upgrade to 15.10
[01:31] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: the reject event comes from the AP and is passed through the kernel > wpa_supplicant
[01:31] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: dang.  and i got disconnected again hopefully i didnt miss any events
[01:32] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: so definitely router problem then?
[01:32] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: as i feared; the code is binary blobs
[01:32] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: so no clue there; I still think its a router issue though!
[01:32] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: aside from changing OS, my hostname changed from ownamini to owna-mini
[01:32] <Ownasaurus1> i could try switching it back...?
[01:33] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: I can't imagine that'll change anything at the point of association
[01:34] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: the only thing the AP will know is the client MAC, the algorithm, method, and secret
[01:35] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: line 690-694 of the wpa_supplicant log are the key here; and that bubbles up as a result of the AP sending a message
[01:35] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: yeah... it didnt fix it.  but i am so clueless!!!
[01:35] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: how can reinstalling an OS make my router reject me?!
[01:35] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: It loves you; it just decided to divorce your PC :)
[01:36] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: i almost want to reinstall windows just to see if it works again lol
[01:36] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: the only other thing I could imagine would be you've limited the AP to X connections, and X clients are already connected and this PC makes X+1
[01:37] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: i am quite confidant thats not the case, which makes this crazy confusing
[01:37] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: espeically this should be considered an "old" device on the router
[01:38] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: I've seen some of these routers retain fragments of config in their NVRAM saved settings that aren't displayed by the GUI - do you have shell access to the WRT54G to check what is actually in the saved config as opposed to being displayed by the GUI?
[01:39] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: how do i obtain shell access?  it's stock firmware.  that's new territory to me
[01:39] <Ownasaurus1> also i was wrong its a WGT624v3
[01:40] <TJ-> Ownasaurus1: not sure; I replaced stock so you'd have to investigate that.
[01:41] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: this router is at my parents' house where i am staying temporarily so i cannot factory reset it... so i may be stuck.  this router!!!! :P.
[01:43] <Ownasaurus1> TJ-: well actually its ok, im gonna do a factory reset which i hope erases the NVRAM, brb
[01:45] <bewbz> Permission denied when trying create files with TOUCH or running any sudo commands... /help
[01:46] <bewbz> I've tried matching the hosts and hostnames but that doesn't seem to work
[01:47] <daftykins> bewbz: sounds more like your permissions are wrong, but i won't be assisting when you have such a juvenile nickname
[02:01] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: sorry im back after reprogramming all the router settings.  same connection problem!!!!!
[02:01] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: and i swear it works in windows!  im about to find a bartPE boot cd to confirm!
[02:01] <daftykins> Ownasaurus: TJ- was telling me about this one, sounds very interesting - which ubuntu is it you're trying with?
[02:02] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: have you powered off the PC and removed battery if needed?
[02:02] <TJ-> daftykins: 14.04 kubuntu, broadcom with wl driver
[02:02] <daftykins> ah ok
[02:02] <Ownasaurus> I am using 14.04 LTS, just installed last night.    powered off my laptop PC?
[02:02] <Ownasaurus> No I haven't, might that do somethign?
[02:03] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: i'm wondering if the hardware is keeping something 'bad' around
[02:03] <daftykins> certainly wouldn't hurt, i'd also try a different MAC with macchanger
[02:03] <Ownasaurus> i tried a mac switch with ifconfig hw ether
[02:03] <Ownasaurus> i changed the last digit - no fix
[02:04] <Ownasaurus> now shutting down, removing battery, making sure capacitors are drained, etc
[02:04] <daftykins> i'm not familiar with that method
[02:04] <Ownasaurus> ifconfig $interface hw ether $newMAC;
[02:04] <Ownasaurus> i can try your method if you'd like though
[02:06] <Ownasaurus> i just unplugged power, removed battery, tried turning laptop on (ensure all power is out), and am now rebooting
[02:06] <Ownasaurus> since this is a clean install, i'd be happy to try another release if you think it'd help diagnostically.  i have no data to lose.  i'd also allow someone to x0vnc in (so i can watch what is being done)
[02:07] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: same issue after draining power
[02:07] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: the wpa_supplicant log shows everything working as expected until the REJECT, that's the bit I don't get. There is no indication of abnormal operation anywhere
[02:08] <Ownasaurus> it's too bad i don't have a 3rd router here to test.  only these two at this house
[02:08] <Ownasaurus> i'm not as good as you guys, but im certainly not a networking newbie either.  and this has me completely stumped!!!
[02:10] <far> hello
[02:10] <far> hello
[02:10] <far> is anyone there?
[02:10] <far> clear all
[02:10] <Ownasaurus> hello far
[02:11] <iason> hello. i just installed xubuntu on my computer, and although i can see my 2nd hard disk on my desktop, i can't make changes to it - i can't paste a file - it is as if i don't have the rights. any ideas?
[02:11] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: is it possible the incorrect drivers would work with some routers but not others?  if wl doesn't work with everything
[02:12] <Ownasaurus> iason: is it NTFS?
[02:12] <iason> Ownasaurus, ext4
[02:12] <iason> Ownasaurus, i may be mistaken, though. how do i find out?
[02:12] <asdpoa> (Lubuntu 15.04) I installed a fix for the Belkin F7D2102 driver from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/F7D2102 (but with sudo dkms install 8192cu/1.10 for the updated version) and now my USB wifi dongle stopped working. lsusb shows that the OS has recognized the dongle is plugged in, but the light isn't even turned on on the device. I don't know what to do.
[02:13] <Ownasaurus> iason: egrep " ro,|,ro " /proc/mounts
[02:13] <Ownasaurus> might need to sudo that
[02:13] <bewbz> Hi: I'm trying to create this file > /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules but I am getting this error touch: cannot touch ‘/etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules’: Permission denied
[02:13] <iason> Ownasaurus, nothing shows up
[02:14] <Ownasaurus> hmm, that means its probably not mounted as read only.  you could cat /proc/mounts to find the line for your 2nd hard drive and see how its mounted.  this might be beyond my beginner linux level though
[02:15] <asdpoa> Does anyone have ideas? I'm seriously desperate here
[02:15] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: I suppose it is, yes. Not being able to see the wl source its hard to know
[02:17] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: this was the most comprehensive guide i could find - http://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers
[02:17] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: it says to explicitly remove any installed packages that may be conflicting.  do you know how to find if something is conflicting?
[02:17] <daftykins> which should also be...
[02:17] <daftykins> !broadcom
[02:17] <iason> Ownasaurus, rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,data=ordered 0 0
[02:18] <asdpoa> Did I not give enough information?
[02:18] <Ownasaurus> iason: sorry i'm not sure then.  most of the people here are far superior at linux than i am, just figured id give it a first crack.  i hope someone else can help you!
[02:19] <daftykins> asdpoa: modprobe the module you just installed
[02:19] <iason> anyone that could help me find out why i can't write changes on my 2nd hard disk?
[02:19] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: a conflict would cause the driver not to load at all
[02:20] <TJ-> daftykins: have you seen the wpa_supplicant log Ownasaurus captured? Line 690 is the interesting bit. http://paste.ubuntu.com/12934993/
[02:21]  * daftykins clicks
[02:21] <iason> I am able to do it as root though
[02:21] <asdpoa> Is it modprobe rtl8192cu, or modprobe rtl8192cu-fixes?
[02:21] <iason> How could I make my hard disk so that users can write changes?
[02:22] <Bashing-om> iason: Are you mounting in fstab ? or as on-demand ?
[02:23] <asdpoa> modprobe rtl8192cu-fixes gives me a "could not open '/lib/modules/3.19.0-30-generic/modules.dep.bin'" error, daftykins
[02:23] <jeffrey_f> What else is necessary to have bluetooth file send work from my phone to laptop????  Phone is paired already.
[02:23] <daftykins> asdpoa: check the name against what you installed
[02:24] <TJ-> daftykins: I traced the wpa_supplicant source-code back to try and identify the status_code 16, but it comes directly from the kernel driver, which is the opaque 'wl' blob
[02:25] <daftykins> TJ-: ugh, did we get an exact broadcom model? Ownasaurus ?
[02:27] <TJ-> daftykins: 13e4:4727 rev 01
[02:27] <Ownasaurus> daftykins: TJ-: yeah it says BCM4313bgn rev 1   but also [14e4:4727].  and the best part is i have 2 wpa routers and it connects to one but not the other
[02:27] <asdpoa> I cloned https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes.git then dkms'd ./rtl8192cu-fixes. depmod rtl8192cu-fixes gives me a "not absolute path" error. I'm getting very frustrated.
[02:28] <Ownasaurus> although right now it is not connecting to either after modprobe -r 'ing everything and then modprove wl
[02:28] <jeffrey_f> I figured it out.....I needed to allow reception of files from devices set up.....
[02:28] <daftykins> Ownasaurus: one's just an AP daisy-chained though right?
[02:29] <Ownasaurus> correct.  i dont know the proper terminology
[02:29] <Ownasaurus> but i have the regular one and the -den one
[02:29] <Ownasaurus> the -den one is plugged into the regular one
[02:29] <Ownasaurus> i can wirelessly connect to -den   but not the regular one
[02:29] <daftykins> i'd imagine you have a wireless access point (WAP) plugged into a full-blown router
[02:30] <Ownasaurus> two routers, actually, but the dhcp is disabled on the -den
[02:30] <Ownasaurus> and its "special  5th port" is not being used (i am poor at routing terminology)
[02:31] <Ownasaurus> one of the 4 regular ports are plugged into 1 of the 4 regular ports
[02:31] <Ownasaurus> anyhow, works for every machine except this laptop on linux specifically!
[02:31] <Ownasaurus> worked on windows before the format yesterday afternoon
[02:32] <daftykins> is the point that the second router is too far from the intended usage spot?
[02:33] <Ownasaurus> precisely.  big house
[02:33] <Ownasaurus> i'm usually in the same room as the main router, the one that works is the other end of the house and a weak signal
[02:34] <TJ-> daftykins: scan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12934729/
[02:35] <TJ-> daftykins: channel 6 'steinberg' is the problem AP
[02:37] <Ownasaurus> unfortunately its about bedtime for me
[02:38] <daftykins> mmm i can only suggest changing WPA mixed mode, or TKIP -> AES if possible
[02:38] <daftykins> i know you reset the router in question, but the defaults could be bad
[02:38] <daftykins> but yeah that's essentially broadcom for you :)
[02:38] <Ownasaurus> is WPA always TKIP and WPA2 always AES?
[02:39] <bewbz> I just upgraded to 15.10 but messed up my permissions or host name. I don't know. How do i Reinstall 15.10 but totally fresh?
[02:39] <daftykins> Ownasaurus: nope
[02:40] <daftykins> bewbz: change your nickname to something a teenager wouldn't use, then i'll consider replying.
[02:40] <Ownasaurus>  daftykins: well i can force it to WPA-PSK [TKIP]  (which its on now) or WPA2-PSK [AES] (which i tried earlier)   or allow it to accept both - which is where it started
[02:41] <daftykins> mmm, mixed mode tends to be the least reliable in wifi land
[02:41] <Ownasaurus> daftykins: noted.  did not know that
[02:41] <Vincent_AdultMan> Fresh re-installation of 15.10 tips?
[02:41] <Ownasaurus> He's all grown up :D
[02:42] <daftykins> boot flash drive ---> success
[02:42] <Vincent_AdultMan> really
[02:42] <Vincent_AdultMan> that's the only option
[02:43] <Ownasaurus1> and i don't suppose the channel matters? (i'm back after router reboot)
[02:44] <daftykins> nah, 1, 6 and 11 are best for 2.4GHz ISM band wifi, pick from those three based on anything in the neighbourhood
[02:44] <daftykins> Vincent_AdultMan: even the third world has flash drives these days, though if your /boot is a separate partition you could boot an ISO direct from there
[02:45] <Vincent_AdultMan> How do I create this file Log in as root and create this file: /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules  without getting Permissions Denied?
[02:45] <Vincent_AdultMan> That's why I want to start over. I've spent six hours and can't figure it out. So i figure reinstalling 15.10 would be easier.
[02:45] <asdpoa> To daftykins, modprobe 8192cu got Lubuntu to recognize the USB dongle, so thank you
[02:45] <daftykins> six hours to edit one file?
[02:45] <asdpoa> Will I have to modprobe every time I boot?
[02:46] <daftykins> asdpoa: nah, if it doesn't load on boot... edit /etc/modules and put the module name in to make it load on boot
[02:46] <Ownasaurus1> Vincent did you use sudo to edit?
[02:46] <asdpoa> Would I add 8192cu, or 8192cu/1.10?
[02:46] <daftykins> asdpoa: mmm not sure, i would probably try both
[02:47] <Ownasaurus1> brb gonna *temporarily* put this router on WEP for kicks to see what happens
[02:47] <Ownasaurus1> actually no password
[02:47] <daftykins> not at the same time but "8192cu" first
[02:47] <Ownasaurus1> see if anything works...
[02:47] <Vincent_AdultMan> Yes
[02:47] <asdpoa> Okay
[02:47] <Vincent_AdultMan> used sudo to edit
[02:47] <daftykins> Vincent_AdultMan: maybe if you said what you're actually doing we might be able to understand
[02:48] <Elimin8er> I got a question, after updating to 15.10 today, My win machine will no longer connect to linux though the samba, samba is all running and so is winbind but for some reason it wont connect..  any idea of what I can do ?
[02:49] <asdpoa> While I'm here, I have another issue. After installing the module and rebooting, my largest screen resolution is now 1024x768, when it used to be 1280x1024. Did I break something in the kernel?
[02:49] <daftykins> asdpoa: graphics card + driver?
[02:49] <Vincent_AdultMan> I'm trying to follow step 3 from this link: http://developer.android.com/tools/device.html. I can't create a file. This is what everyone on stackexchange said http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938361/ but it
[02:50] <Ownasaurus> daftykins: TJ-: essid steinberg now has NO security and i still cannot connect!
[02:51] <daftykins> i'd probably try from a live session if possible right now, whilst it's open
[02:51] <Ownasaurus> meaning from a boot cd / usb?
[02:51] <daftykins> yep
[02:51] <daftykins> Vincent_AdultMan: if you can't even get these steps working, android development is not for you.
[02:51] <Ownasaurus> im on it
[02:51] <Vincent_AdultMan> you're right.
[02:53] <Ownasaurus> booting to my live kubuntu USB, then will report
[02:53] <asdpoa> To daftykins, the GPU is Nvidia Geforce 6150SE nForce 430, and the driver is the legacy driver version 304.128.
[02:54] <daftykins> oh ouch, an nforce 430 is ancient
[02:54] <asdpoa> Why do people always say things like that, I don't care if it's old, I just want it to work
[02:54] <daftykins> because eventually, old becomes "wow i saw that in a museum"
[02:55] <daftykins> asdpoa: there might be a clue in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:59] <asdpoa> To daftykins, could this be a clue? "[    19.807] (II) VESA(0): Not using built-in mode "1280x1024" (hsync out of range)"
[02:59] <TJ-> asdpoa: because older devices have drivers that suffer bit-rot as less programmers care about them
[02:59] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: daftykins: could not connect to steinberg off the live USB either.   can still connect to steinberg-den
[03:00] <daftykins> asdpoa: could you pastebin the whole file? "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" with pastebinit installed
[03:00] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: got to be the router :D
[03:00] <Ownasaurus> i'll stay on the live USB in case you want me to do any diagnostics.  yeah wtf this router -_-  it must be failing or something
[03:00] <Ownasaurus> something must be corrupt
[03:00] <Ownasaurus> this behavior is totally illogical
[03:00] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: I noticed in the router manual it shows you can save the router config file. Do that, then inspect its contents - it might be pure ASCII text too
[03:01] <daftykins> Ownasaurus: i take it there's no newer firmware?
[03:02] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: is the other AP also a 104Mbps device, or simply 54G
[03:02] <asdpoa> To daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938668/
[03:03] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: I'm wondering if it is something to do with trying to operate in a non-standard mode
[03:04] <daftykins> asdpoa: ok so the nvidia driver isn't being used because something has disabled KMS, hmm - it's on the VESA driver right now
[03:04] <cuihao> Hi, all. if I enable secure boot, can Ubuntu's signed grub2 chainload other kernel not signed?
[03:04] <daftykins> asdpoa: can you run "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit" ?
[03:05] <asdpoa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938732/
[03:06] <TJ-> asdpoa: can you "pastebinit <( dkms status )"
[03:07] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: can i send you my config dump as a file?
[03:07] <asdpoa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938769/
[03:07] <Ownasaurus> its like part plaintext and part weird.  the first line has a ton of text that doesnt quite C+P
[03:07] <Ownasaurus> slightly binary perhaps
[03:08] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: Try "pastebinit <( hexdump -C /path/to/file )"
[03:09] <Ownasaurus> im on my win machine but let me see if i can do it on the live USB
[03:09] <TJ-> asdpoa: "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg"
[03:09] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: Ahh! push the file to one of those anonymous temporary file-sharing sites maybe?
[03:09] <asdpoa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938801/
[03:11] <TJ-> asdpoa: Grrr, this is a SystemD ! "pastebinit <( dmesg )"
[03:12] <asdpoa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938820/
[03:12] <TJ-> asdpoa: "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk )"
[03:12] <asdpoa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938831/
[03:14] <Ownasaurus> just a moment please, redacting some of this config file
[03:14] <TJ-> asdpoa: daftykins line 652 "[    6.840725] systemd[1]: systemd-modules-load.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE"
[03:15] <daftykins> ooh you pesky init system!
[03:15] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938860/
[03:16] <Ownasaurus> might not be fully redacted but close enough
[03:16] <asdpoa> So systemd is having trouble loading modules?
[03:17] <TJ-> asdpoa: everything points to that, yes.
[03:17] <asdpoa> This all stems from that damn Realtek chipset update
[03:17] <asdpoa> What do I do next? Reinstall the OS?
[03:18] <daftykins> purge all nvidia packages and reinstall nvidia-304 *shrug*
[03:18] <daftykins> certainly can't hurt anyway :)
[03:19] <asdpoa> sudo apt-get purge nvidia*?
[03:19] <daftykins> yep
[03:21] <TJ-> Ownasaurus: I don't see anything of a clue there
[03:21] <TJ-> asdpoa: Hang on
[03:21] <TJ-> asdpoa: "realtek chipset update"? maybe whatever that is, it broke the modprobe code
[03:22] <asdpoa> Too late TJ-, I already purged nvidia
[03:22] <asdpoa> And reinstalled nvidia-304
[03:22] <asdpoa> I hope daftykins didn't give me the wrong advice
[03:22] <Ben64> 304?
[03:22] <daftykins> asdpoa: you have to have restarted after the purge first
[03:22] <Ben64> oh, old card
[03:22] <TJ-> asdpoa: No, you'll just be right back where it was :)
[03:22] <daftykins> yeah nforce :(
[03:22] <asdpoa> It's a legacy driver for older Nvidia graphics cards that were around during the Carter administration
[03:23] <daftykins> aka hardware my clients threw away over 10 years ago
[03:23] <daftykins> lol
[03:23] <Ownasaurus> poor asdpoa, he loves his hardware tho
[03:23] <TJ-> asdpoa: we need to look at the systemd log. "sudo journalctl | pastebinit"
[03:23] <Ownasaurus> i finally threw out my pentium1 last year -_-
[03:24] <TJ-> asdpoa: we need more info on the "[    6.840725] systemd[1]: systemd-modules-load.service: main process exited, code=exited, status=1/FAILURE"
[03:24] <slicknick5181> Good Evening all.
[03:24] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: daftykins: thanks for all of your time, both of you.  its great the community has people like you.  i should go to sleep and stop thinking about this silly router/linux/broadcom thingy for a while
[03:25] <daftykins> Ownasaurus: np, hope you work it out! fresh eyes in the morning perhaps :)
[03:25] <Ownasaurus> i'll try to remember to pop on IRC again, though i rarely use it, to follow up
[03:25] <Ownasaurus> Ownasaurus at gmail dot com if you have any brainstorms :P.   goodnight all
[03:26] <asdpoa> I'm going to apply for some government student grants and use the money to buy hardware that wasn't made when the Soviet Union was still around
[03:26] <asdpoa> Also, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12938985/
[03:26] <TJ-> asdpoa: haha! lines 677 onwards
[03:27] <TJ-> asdpoa: "sudo depmod --all" will fix it
[03:27] <asdpoa> Then reboot?
[03:27] <daftykins> !info linux-generic vivid
[03:27] <TJ-> asdpoa: no, after that ...
[03:28] <TJ-> asdpoa: ... "sudo modprobe nvidia-304"
[03:28] <asdpoa> I get nvidia-304 not found.
[03:28] <daftykins> is that 'cause it's currently removed?
[03:29] <TJ-> asdpoa: did you reinstall that package?
[03:29] <asdpoa> No, I thought I had to reboot before reinstalling nvidia-304
[03:29] <TJ-> asdpoa: no, reinstall it now, then we'll redo the "depmod" to be sure, and then try 'modprobe'
[03:29] <daftykins> i think TJ- has things in hand now, so you could pop it back on
[03:30] <TJ-> asdpoa: keep an eagle eye out for any signs of errors or warnings though
[03:31] <asdpoa> To be clear, what are the exact depmod and modprobe commands I will run?
[03:32] <asdpoa> TJ-, what depmod command do I run once nvidia-304 has been installed?
[03:34] <asdpoa> Is it sudo depmod --all?
[03:34] <daftykins> yep
[03:34] <TJ-> asdpoa: "sudo depmod --all" will regenerate the module alias database
[03:34] <TJ-> asdpoa: that's how the system matches a kernel module driver with the hardware ID
[03:35] <asdpoa> Okay, and now modprobe nvidia-304 is successful
[03:35] <daftykins> i would never run that
[03:35] <TJ-> asdpoa: now do "lspci -nnk -d 01de:03d0"
[03:35] <TJ-> asdpoa: and check that you see a "kernel driver in use: nvidia-304"
[03:36] <asdpoa> That command does not print out any information
[03:36] <TJ-> asdpoa: now do "lspci -nnk -d 10de:03d0" !! typo
[03:36] <asdpoa> Oh, never mind
[03:36] <asdpoa> The kernel driver in use is nvidia, not nvidia-304
[03:36] <seed_> t
[03:36] <TJ-> asdpoa: that's fine!
[03:36] <daftykins> seed_: t
[03:36] <seed_> \join #mybot
[03:36] <TJ-> asdpoa: now do "sudo systemctl restart lightdm" (I think that's correct!)
[03:39] <asdopa> Hi all. My screen resolution has returned to 1280x1024 and the wifi dongle seems to be in working order now. I would like to sincerely thank everyone who helped me, particularly TJ- and daftykins.
[03:39] <TJ-> asdopa: *YAY*
[03:39]  * daftykins bows
[03:40] <daftykins> truth is i just do it *slightly* wrong enough that TJ- steps in and does it all right ;)
[03:40] <TJ-> LOL
[03:40] <daftykins> !cookie | TJ- \o/
[03:40] <daftykins> :D
[03:44] <asdopa> I was wrong, there's another issue. This time with sound. I don't see a sound volume indicator on my taskbar.
[03:44] <asdopa> There must be an issue with pulseaudio.
[03:45] <TJ-> asdopa: in a terminal "pastebinit <( aplay -l; aplay -L )"
[03:45] <asdopa> The speaker jack is plugged into the computer.
[03:45] <asdopa> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12939219/
[03:46] <TJ-> asdopa: OK, no sound drivers. Reboot. Test again. if still missing, come back
[03:46] <asdopa> I'll be back
[03:56] <Hulio> hi guys
[03:57] <Hulio> howdy?
[03:57] <liquidsnake> hello
[03:58] <daftykins> Hulio: question? ask it!
[04:15] <japhar81> is there any way to trace a reboot? I'm getting stuck on the 5 dots, and esc doesn't give me the text dump of whats going on
[04:17] <CarlFK> japhar81: alt f7 (or f1.. I forget what gets you to syslog)
[04:17] <japhar81> hah, i took a guess, stopping logstash fixes the rboot
[04:17] <japhar81> so i guess logstash does something goofy
[04:42] <juanx> Does this chat support ChromeBook installation support?
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> juanx: there are tricks to install ubuntu on chromebook with 'crouton'
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> juanx: never done myself
[04:46] <eltigre> I'm having trouble restoring X11 after I switched the drivers to xorg, and then rebootet
[04:46] <eltigre> I tried both the proprietary drivers and the free ones, also dpkg-reconfigure for X11
[04:46] <eltigre> nothing helps
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: ubuntu version and grafix card chipset plz?
[04:47] <eltigre> vivid
[04:47] <eltigre> AMD APU
[04:47] <eltigre> lenovo thinkpad edge
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: using radeon driver?
[04:47] <eltigre> not really
[04:48] <eltigre> I tried both
[04:48] <eltigre> currently the error is "Vesa: ignoring device with bound kernel driver"
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: did you test on 14.04?
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: have you installed ubuntu with internet+updates during setup?
[04:49] <eltigre> I don't have 14.04 installed
[04:49] <eltigre> yes
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: pastebin sudo lshw -C video please?
[04:51] <eltigre> that will be tricky
[04:51] <eltigre> I'm not running xchat on the affected device obviously
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: check just whats behind driver= please
[04:54] <eltigre> There is no driver section, also the output is in German
[04:54] <eltigre> I'm now rebooting to test if the splash option was the culprit
[04:55] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: then your card doesnt use right driver
[04:55] <eltigre> sorry
[04:55] <eltigre> it's working now
[04:55] <eltigre> the problem was I set the splash kernel option in grub
[04:56] <eltigre> I'm trying to get the brightness interface working... like for the hundredth time and none of the solutions I found with google seem to be working for me
[05:03] <eltigre> which sort of sucks... the only resort left is to backup everything and wipe the device... apparently a new linux install worked for some people
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | eltigre ==>fix broken packages
[05:03] <eltigre> hm
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | eltigre
[05:04] <eltigre> I don't think recovery mode would fix the brightness isue
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: your card doesnt use the right driver...
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: so first fix your driver, then brightness might be solved
[05:05] <eltigre> currently it's fglrx_pci
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: try radeon
[05:06] <eltigre> from the drivers menu?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: yes the xorg one
[05:07] <eltigre> the xorg seems to be selected
[05:07] <Loshki> eltigre: you should probably have made such a backup already
[05:08] <eltigre> yeah
[05:08] <eltigre> nothing important
[05:09] <eltigre> I'll probably try to upgrade to 15.10 and then try to switch the drivers around
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: for more stable, you can try LTS
[05:24] <Guest99520> ?
[05:25] <researcher123> is there a software for Ubntu which can be used to study trading charts, especially forex trading?
[05:39] <timaaarrreee> hey I posted this earlier today and have done some changes. It's a multi draw app which use tiles would appreciate if anyone tried drawing on it https://udraw.me
[05:39] <zatzed> What DE/WMs do you guys use?
[05:40] <gogeta> lxde
[05:40] <Any_where> Can anyone help me ?
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[05:41] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | zatzed
[05:41] <Any_where> hello?
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> Any_where: ask a question?
[05:42] <zatzed> I was just curious as to what you guys/girls use specifically..I'm well versed in other flavors of Ubuntu, DEs and WMs.
[05:42] <gogeta> zatzed, lots o good choices thow even kde 5 plasma is nice
[05:42] <hamsterpower> I'm looking for the 2 angels who helped me out yesterday :)
[05:43] <devslash2> has anyone here had a problem with Ubuntu 15.04 where right after the grub boot menu, the screen shows a purple splash screen and seems to hang after that ?
[05:44] <Any_where> My apache2.4 was warning syntax error Any_where: ask a question?
[05:45] <hamsterpower> devslash2: have you tried boot-repair?
[05:45] <eltigre> hamsterpower, you need to look away, because otherwise they can't move
[05:46] <Any_where> lotuspsychje:  LockFile ${APACHE_LOCK_DIR}/accept.lock
[05:46] <hamsterpower> eltigre: hahaha is that true?
[05:46] <eltigre> it's a doctor who joke
[05:46] <hamsterpower> ha, I see.
[05:46] <eltigre> the weeping angels
[05:46] <eltigre> anyway
[05:48] <hamsterpower> I get an error message: http://pastebin.com/quy62XRJ when I run "mean init appName"
[05:49] <hamsterpower> I don't know what: chown -R `whoami` ~/.npm is
[05:49] <Any_where> lotuspsychje:How to set the etc/apache2/apache2.conf LockFile?
[05:49] <hamsterpower> is 'whoami' where my user name goes?
[05:49] <devslash2> hamsterpower, when do ou do that ?
[05:50] <devslash2> hamsterpower,do i edit the grub line with that boot-repair command
[05:52] <hamsterpower> devslash2: I can't guarantee you this but I would try to boot again from usb and install boot-repair
[05:52] <hamsterpower> devslash2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:53] <demonlove> i  want to hide my top view toolbar how to do that?
[05:54] <demonlove> bottom has been done!!
[05:54] <hamsterpower> demonlove: ubuntu has bottom view toolbar?
[05:55] <demonlove> initially in gnome
[05:56] <demonlove> tell me abt top view hidding way!!
[05:58] <zatzed> demonlove: You should consider using a different desktop environment if you want to hide everything that makes up Unity..
[05:59] <Any_where> ls
[06:03] <hamsterpower> demonlove: conside arch :)
[06:03] <hamsterpower> *consider
[06:05] <smitb> Hello, I wanted to know the most popular desktop environment for ubuntu
[06:06] <demonlove> gnome!!!
[06:06] <smitb> how about kde?
[06:07] <JessicaJung_> Unity! :3
[06:07] <hamsterpower> xfce
[06:08] <demonlove> its like religious war!!
[06:08] <demonlove> forget it!!
[06:08] <hamsterpower> hahah yeah
[06:10] <smitb> Also, I was confused with this written about Unity on Wikipedia that it is a graphical shell for the GNOME desktop env
[06:11] <smitb> is Unity a Desktop environment or is it part of Gnome?
[06:13] <lotuspsychje> !unity | smitb
[06:13] <zatzed> Damn, we have a lot of commands.
[06:33] <linuxuz3r> hi how do i know my graphics driver
[06:34] <zatzed> Settings -> Software & Updates -> Additional Drivers
[06:50] <JessicaJung_> did 15.10 came with the new ubiquity layout?
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> JessicaJung_: why do you ask?
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> JessicaJung_: you have an issue wiht it?
[06:51] <JessicaJung_> it was somehow shown in omgubuntu.co.uk, maybe it came with it or is it the same ubiquity from the past releases
[06:52] <JessicaJung_> and I'll like to try it out when 16.04 comes
[06:53] <lotuspsychje> JessicaJung_: nice choice, first alpha is december 31
[06:53] <JessicaJung_> oh thanks for the info, but i'll wait until the 2nd beta
[06:54] <JessicaJung_> just to make sure python won't break on my face the next time I install mitmproxy
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> JessicaJung_: ok
[06:55] <JessicaJung_> I was having problems setting up Hyper-V on 15.04 -_-"
[07:01] <edisto> Anyone using ubuntu 15.10 and linux kernel 4.3rc6? I am getting the error EDAC sbridge: ECC is disabled. Aborting. // EDAC sbridge: Couldn't find mci handler. // and then a spinning circle that never boots
[07:03] <baizon> edisto: well this isnt an ubuntu issue, also you use a RC kernel, so things can break
[07:04] <edisto> baizon: Yeah, I figured I'd try here since no one in linux is replying
[07:06] <baizon> edisto: install rc7?
[07:08] <edisto> there is a rc7?
[07:08] <edisto> I just got the rc6 today =\
[07:10] <edisto> oh well... guess i'll be sticking to windows 10. I'd prefer to use ubuntu since it keeps me in work mode but what can I do =\
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> edisto: try LTS?
[07:13] <edisto> lotuspsychje: too much work to go back to 15.04 then install kernel 4.3. I just upgraded to 15.10 in expectations they by some chance supported the r9 fury x
[07:14] <lotuspsychje> edisto: 14.04.4 LTS doesnt run smooth for you?
[07:16] <dxt29> where cani get squid help?
[07:16] <edisto> lotuspsychje: I havent' tried 14.04. But i'm not sure it supports radeon fury x. Or a better question is I have a w8100 workstation in my secondary GPU slot which registers as my primary when I install ubuntu but why is it not registering as my primary when I boot for the first time
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> !squid | dxt29
[07:19] <lotuspsychje> edisto: try LTS live and checkout if its supported?
[07:21] <david____> Hello
[07:22] <camp91> hi
[07:22] <lotuspsychje> david____: welcome, what can we do for you?
[07:22] <linuxuz3r> xD
[07:22] <david____> I'm well thank you
[07:23] <david____> First time in an irc :)
[07:24] <linuxuz3r> hi dadu
[07:24] <linuxuz3r> hi david____
[07:25] <linuxuz3r> hi lotuspsychje
[07:25] <david____> Hello linuxuz3r
[07:25] <wafflejock> hello david____ this is a ubuntu support channel so if you have any ubuntu problems this is the place, lots of other channels you can join too though
[07:26] <david____> Nice thank you wafflejock
[07:26] <eltigre> now I am trying to switch to the fglrx driver in the drivers dialog and "apply" the changes, but when it's finished, without errors, the "X.Org" driver is still selected
[07:26] <eltigre> how come?
[07:26] <lotuspsychje> eltigre: reboot?
[07:27] <UniFreak> what's the best offline dictionary in Ubuntu?
[07:27] <eltigre> I'll try that
[07:28] <wafflejock> UniFreak: can't say I've used one recently, typically just rely on Google for it, know there are a few though
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> UniFreak: apt-cache search dictionary
[07:28] <wafflejock> UniFreak: assume you're using Unity?
[07:29] <linuxuz3r> what's the best offline dictionary in Ubuntu?
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> linuxuz3r: stop that
[07:29] <dxt29> I can't view google via my squid server, any body help?
[07:29] <wafflejock> dxt29: what did you try?
[07:29] <linuxuz3r> whats squid server
[07:30] <wafflejock> it's a proxy/cache
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> dxt29: maybe the #squid guys can help you also?
[07:30] <wafflejock> I've used it a few times
[07:30] <dxt29> they don't give a shit
[07:30] <wafflejock> typically just need to run squid on the server/proxy machine
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> !language | dxt29
[07:30] <dxt29> sorry for that, lotuspsychje
[07:30] <ycon_> Hi all, setting up a server for the first time. Not sure whether to go Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.10. Im concerned the newest version might have an issue/not be as compatible? Or is that incorrect?
[07:31] <wafflejock> you have an ssh connection with the ports tunneled for squid then you set the proxy connection on the client
 Hi all, setting up a server for the first time. Not sure whether to go Ubuntu 14.04 or 15.10. Im concerned the newest version might have an issue/not be as compatible? Or is that incorrect?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> ycon_: if your looking for stability, choose LTS
[07:31] <wafflejock> ycon_: use 14.04
[07:31] <ycon_> lotuspsychje, thought so
[07:31] <wafflejock> ycon_: hello again too :)
[07:31] <ycon_> wafflejock, hi again
[07:31] <JessicaJung_> ycon: I suggest sticking to LTS versions since they have longer maintenance periods than regular releases
[07:32] <dxt29> wafflejock, I configured squid in a vps, but it's working abnormal
[07:32] <shanemikel> yeah, I'm pretty bummed about losing my vivid install next year
[07:32] <wafflejock> dxt29: are you doing the same kind of setup I was describing, ssh from the client to the squid server then setup the proxy settings in the network panel on the client?
[07:32] <dxt29> google's homepage  sometimes is fine
[07:33] <dxt29> the others like gmail,youtube,play just dont
[07:33] <wafflejock> hmm yeah not sure, I didn't do too much web browsing through mine really was just using it as a way to get onto a remote network to get into VoIP stuff
[07:33] <dxt29> wafflejock, you mean I should setup a ssh to the server?
[07:34] <wafflejock> that's how I was doing it yeah
[07:34] <dxt29> wafflejock, why
[07:34] <dxt29> OK, please help me
[07:34] <linuxuz3r> oh halloween is near
[07:34] <tlt> what is the codename for 14.04? Thought it was vivid actually
[07:34] <JessicaJung_> dxt29:so you're practically saying, it won't work on Java and Flash?
[07:34] <wafflejock> dxt29: basically so I could use a web browser to navigate to web interfaces on VoIP devices on the remote network
[07:34] <tlt> 12.04 was trusty afaik
[07:34] <dxt29> wafflejock, what if I don't setup a ssh connection?
[07:35] <dxt29> because it works fine sometimes
[07:35] <JessicaJung_> tlt: it's trusty
[07:35] <dxt29> but not always
[07:35] <dxt29> JessicaJung_, no
[07:35] <tlt> JessicaJung_, 14.04 or 12.04? I was wondering which codename 14.04 had/has
[07:35] <dxt29> JessicaJung_, sometimes works, but sometimes wont
[07:35] <lotuspsychje> !trusty | tlt
[07:36] <tlt> ah
[07:36] <tlt> thank You
[07:36] <shanemikel> UniFreak: it seems goldendict and artha are popular
[07:36] <plebe> howdy
[07:36] <wafflejock> dxt29: believe I had to use squid3 instead of squid package http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=squid3&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all not sure if it's related to your issues though
[07:36] <shanemikel> also, there are a couple built as widgets for kde afaik
[07:36] <JessicaJung_> tlt: 14.04 is Trusty Tahr (whatever you spelt it, it has three point releases, being a LTS release
[07:37] <tlt> yep thanks a lot u both
[07:37] <wafflejock> dxt29: I had the ssh tunnel because the squid server was on a remote machine and I didn't want my traffic exposed for what I was doing on any of the remote machines since I had to type in passwords and all, don't think squid itself does any encryption
[07:38] <shanemikel> ubottu: artha seems nice, has a thesaurus built-in too
[07:38] <shanemikel> oops
[07:38] <JessicaJung_> oh btw, how do you get a Hyper-V server working in Ubuntu, I'm having problems mining using Hyper V XD
[07:38] <shanemikel> UniFreak: artha has built-in thesaurus
[07:39] <dxt29> wafflejock, I compiled squid 3.5.10 personoly
[07:39] <wafflejock> dxt29: in that case my proxy sees it as though it's going to a local port and ssh is redirecting that to the squid server, just uses ssh with the -L flag
[07:39] <wafflejock> ah
[07:39] <dxt29> *personally
[07:39] <wafflejock> I just used the squid3 package
[07:40] <wafflejock> nothing in the logs that points to problems?
[07:40] <dxt29> wafflejock, the default squid3 package does't support ssh
[07:40] <wafflejock> meant my client* not my proxy above
[07:41] <wafflejock> hmm had it working, was on a beaglebone black, what was the issue you saw with ssh?
[07:41] <dxt29> I can't follow you wafflejock
[07:41] <dxt29> you mean logs ? OK, I'll paste some
[07:42] <virgosun> Hi all,
[07:42] <virgosun> I am installing canberra for event sound and input feed back sound
[07:42] <virgosun> I installed freedesktop sound theme and moblin
[07:42] <virgosun> All sound files are there
[07:42] <virgosun> but only trash empty event trigger sound.
[07:42] <virgosun> other events like: login, dialog error , etc etc no sound...
[07:42] <wafflejock> dxt29: yeah asked about the logs, not sure what you were saying about it not supporting ssh
[07:42] <wafflejock> virgosun: you've been muted for a minute don't paste in here use pastebin or type your question all in one line
[07:43] <virgosun> hi any one here
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> virgosun: only ubuntu support here
[07:44] <dxt29> wafflejock, MYLOG:113.106.101.67 TCP_MISS_ABORTED/000 0 GET http://www.youtube.com/ - HIER_DIRECT/2607:f8b0:4007:80a::200e
[07:44] <wafflejock> dxt29: perhaps this http://linuxadmin.melberi.com/2015/04/squid-error-tcpmissaborted000-0-get.html
[07:45] <wafflejock> dxt29: I've run into other IPv6 issues before
[07:46] <virgosun> Hi lotuspsychje so can you support me with event sound xfce
[07:46] <ycon_> I'm trying to install Postgres on 14.04. Says "E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'postgresql-9.4" so I ran apt-get update and had no success
[07:47] <wafflejock> ycon_: 9.3 is the latest it looks like http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=postgres&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all
[07:47] <ycon_> brb
[07:47] <wafflejock> I mean latest in the repos
[08:02] <linocisco> hi all, whenever my ubuntu 15.04 x86 boot, many problem popup
[08:03] <lotuspsychje> !details | linocisco
[08:03] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, /var/crash has many files
[08:04] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, whenever I am typing in any text box, pointer is going anywhere at any time randomly and annoying and typed texts are gone
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: read your logs mate, i cant see it from here
[08:07] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, which logs?
[08:07] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: syslog,dmesg
[08:08] <auronandace> linocisco: sounds like you are accidentally touching the thouchpad while typing
[08:10] <linocisco> auronandace, no. no . I did take care of touch pad
[08:13] <Dro> anyone have an idea how can i make a mailing list so if someone send an email to mailinglist@address all subscribers receive the email?
[08:14] <wafflejock> Dro: you can setup a mail server but probably easier to use something third party like mailchimp
[08:15] <Dro> wafflejock, mailchimp don't provide a mail address that someone can send mail to it
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> Dro: sounds like you need a googlegroups email
[08:16] <wafflejock> ah right was thinking on the mass mailing/user sign up side but not like a mailing list
[08:16] <Dro> wafflejock, what about the mail server, any link to follow?
[08:17] <wafflejock> Dro: eh it's kinda complicated in my personal experience but once you have postfix setup to use mysql you can modify a sql entry to say what e-mails get forwarded to what accounts but imagine there are some prebuilt mailing list solutions that are more to the point
[08:18] <Dro> i hope i find one :/
[08:18] <wafflejock> Dro: I used this guide http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#config-secure-auth and had to read up on DKIM and SPF so google wouldn't mark it all as spam https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix/DKIM then also had to fill in some thing with AWS to send out e-mails from my EC2 instance so they knew I wasn't a spammer
[08:19] <wafflejock> Dro: hence the suggestion for something third party
[08:20] <wafflejock> Dro: probably https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/ <-- read up on that maybe
[08:20] <Dro> lotuspsychje, in the case of googlegroups, all users must have a google account
[08:21] <wafflejock> Dro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mailman
[08:22] <Dro> wafflejock, thanks
[08:22] <wafflejock> Dro: Postfix lets you hook in spam assassin for marking e-mails as spam or filtering them out entirely and stuff for adding the DKIM signature and running the e-mails through clamav and basically lets you hook in a bunch of other stuff but exim might be easier
[08:22] <wafflejock> Dro: np good luck on that took me a few days of tinkering around to get it all working
[08:23] <a1> hi
[08:25] <wafflejock> hello a1
[08:25] <linocisco> lotuspsychje_, syslog=http://paste.ubuntu.com/12941165/
[08:26] <frenda> Following this instruction: http://docs.syncthing.net/intro/getting-started.html#installing, This is my case: A fedora on my desktop computer running syncthing.x86 and an Ubuntu on my laptop running syncthing.x64;  Laptop is conected to my ADSL modem by 192.168.1.5 and my desktop computer is connected by 192.168.1.2; I've introduce DeviceID  of my
[08:26] <frenda> machines to each syncthing, but they are in disconnected mode!
[08:26] <frenda> What's lost?
[08:28] <linocisco> lotuspsychje_,dmesg has nothing inside
[08:29] <wafflejock> frenda: never used it but can try here https://forum.syncthing.net/c/support
[08:29] <wafflejock> frenda:  can also try using nmap perhaps on the ubuntu box to check open ports on both machines on the network
[08:30] <wafflejock> frenda: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/saucy/man1/nmap.1.html
[08:31] <frenda> Ok, going take a look at it
[08:47] <jhjjjrjr> Hi guys, can someone recommend me cheap 4g lte modem that support ubuntu?
[08:50] <the_drow> hi guys, I upgraded to ubuntu 15.10 and it seems that it failed because the computer was abruptly shut down
[08:50] <jhjjjrjr> Good job
[08:52] <the_drow> Now when I boot the computer and try to decrypt my filesystem I get https://www.dropbox.com/s/kp01na2rwgnjryl/20151025_102737.jpg?dl=0
[08:52] <the_drow> Is there any way to restore my file system using a live cd
[08:53] <the_drow> Or should I give up now and reinstall?
[08:55] <wafflejock> the_drow: what are you losing?
[08:55] <wafflejock> the_drow: was it a near fresh install or lots of data on there?
[08:55] <the_drow> maybe one commit that I haven't pushed yet
[08:55] <wafflejock> I would just wipe I think
[08:55] <the_drow> Other than that, hours of reinstalling my development environment
[08:55] <wafflejock> don't know about encrypted volumes though
[08:55] <wafflejock> someone else may be able to help
[08:56] <wafflejock> right understand the time
[08:56] <wafflejock> the_drow: I did a walkthrough on YouTube for setting up my development environment in part as a bit of personal advertising but also to have notes on what to do :)
[08:57] <wafflejock> the_drow: hopefully one of these new ideas around the package deployment and stuff will make getting it all installed easier (dockers or snappy packages or something)
[09:01] <wafflejock> the_drow: what ubuntu version?
[09:01] <the_drow> 15.10
[09:03] <the_drow> wafflejock: brb
[09:11] <sennn> 媽了個頂頂的
[09:12] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[09:12] <ycon_> I keep getting systemctl not found ubuntu 14.04 server. An apt-get install of systemd doesn't help. Any suggestions?
[09:13] <pirate> ycon_: isn't it sysctl
[09:16] <akik> initctl
[09:16] <akik> 14.04 is not running under systemd
[09:18] <ycon_> akik, so if I use initctl its the same as systemctl?
[09:19] <wafflejock> ycon_:  systemd is a separate init system from upstart so initctl is to do with upstart init scripts and systemctl is to work with systemd, sysctl instead is to work with kernel paramaters
[09:19] <akik> ycon_: yes. try initctl help or initctl list
[09:20] <akik> it's not "the same as"
[09:20] <ycon_> Ahh. I'm trying to restart ngnix with (systemctl restart nginx). so how would this be done with initctl?
[09:20] <akik> ycon_: those services are configured in /etc/init
[09:21] <wafflejock> ycon_: usually just, sudo service nginx restart
[09:21] <ycon_> wafflejock, Thanks
[09:22] <akik> ycon_: you didn't run initctl help, did you?
[09:22] <wafflejock> np all those commands are confusing
[09:22] <dylan> hey guys just installed ubuntu 14 on my main laptop
[09:22] <ycon_> akik, I didn't run initcatl help
[09:22] <dylan> i overwrited windows 8.1 because it was being slow and stuff
[09:22] <dylan> so i hope i have a fantastic time meeting you guy
[09:22] <dylan> s
[09:23] <MonkeyDust> dylan  sounds great... are you a bit familiar with ubuntu linux?
[09:23] <dylan> yeah kinda i tested ubuntu in my virtual machines etc
[09:23] <dylan> i had trouble cause i had to enable uefi
[09:23] <dylan> and like my laptop was saying no operating system detected and some windows boot loader stuff
[09:24] <wafflejock> dylan: yeah that can be a speed bump
[09:24] <dylan> so i ended up going with the windows boot loader one and overwriting it so now when i boot my hp up it doesnt have Win 8.1:d
[09:24] <dylan> i love ubuntu 14.04
[09:24] <dylan> cause i thought my 1.90 core i3 wouldnt handle ubuntu
[09:25] <dylan> so how you guys doing
[09:26] <MonkeyDust> dylan  this is support, we have #ubuntu-offtopic for nice social chat
[09:27] <dylan_> my ubuntu did something werid
[09:27] <dylan_> it said it had 0.26
[09:27] <dylan_> on battery and jumped up to 44
[09:28] <dylan_> and its not in the AC
[09:35] <linocisco> hi all
[09:36] <linocisco> my ethernet eth0 wont connect to IPv4 and instead IPV6 is connected though I disabled IPV6 via network manager
[09:37] <linocisco> and also /etc/network/interface is configured as static also
[09:37] <linocisco> and also /etc/network/interface is configured also to manual. but nothing worked
[09:38] <wolfman2000> Morning. When it comes to compiling programms manually (configure/cmake && make), what is the behavior if you pass a make -j2 for two CPUs/cores and you actually only have one?
[09:38] <UniFreak> I find that if after a file is downloaded in chrome, when I click 'open in folder', the explorer will open in background, I need to switch to it manually.
[09:38] <UniFreak> is it a bug or supposed to be so?
[09:44] <linocisco> my ethernet eth0 wont connect to IPv4 and instead IPV6 is connected though I disabled IPV6 via network manager
[09:44] <linocisco> and also /etc/network/interface is configured as static also
[09:44] <Num83rGuy> I plug my laptop into my TV for video and emulators. I need to keep the TV on and/or make it the only display when I shut my laptop lid. I cannot find out how anywhere. Ubuntu 15.10 ATI free drivers.
[09:44] <sennn> good ,  i will update to 16.04
[09:45] <bazhang> sennn, theres nothing to update to now with that
[09:45] <sennn> ....
[09:46] <bazhang> 15.10 was *just* released sennn
[09:46] <sennn> i known
[09:46] <abb4s> hi every body i want to install wine 1.6 but i get this error : http://termbin.com/ps3k
[09:47] <bazhang> abb4s, is that from the #winehq repos
[09:47] <abb4s> bazhang, yes
[09:47] <bazhang> abb4s, ask them for a more recent one, if you must
[09:48] <sennn> bazhang, 你可知道,我就是想升級到16.04測試版
[09:48] <cfhowlett> !cn | sennn
[09:49] <bazhang> nothing to test sennn not even close, and please english here
[09:49] <sennn> 不
[09:51] <Guest8123> hi.guys .  to share internet via bluetooth nap,  and syslog say "Can't add bnep0 to the bridge pan1" . what should i do? my sys 15.10.
[09:51] <linocisco> hi all
[09:51] <linocisco> my ethernet eth0 wont connect to IPv4 and instead IPV6 is connected though I disabled IPV6 via network manager
[09:52] <Denlobah> I plug my laptop into my TV for video and emulators. I need to keep the TV on and/or make it the only display when I shut my laptop lid. I cannot find out how anywhere. Ubuntu 15.10 ATI free drivers.
[09:52] <hetii> Hi
[09:52] <hetii> I use toram option to boot remastered iso image of linuxmint. My issue is that /etc/fstab that I put inside this iso is ignored
[09:53] <hetii> any clue what to change to have static mount point ?
[09:53] <abb4s> i think #winehq members are in sleep , so can you help me ? i want to install wine 1.6 but i got this error : http://termbin.com/ps3k in ubuntu software center
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> hetii  mint support in the mint channel
[09:54] <hetii> MonkeyDust: whatever it  is almost the same system ...
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> hetii  almost but not quite
[09:55] <hetii> ok so give me answer for ubuntu :)
[09:56] <bazhang> hetii, the answer for ubuntu is to go the mint support channel
[09:56] <MonkeyDust> !mint | hetii
[09:58] <Denlobah> No one has a clue on my multi monitor issue?
[09:58] <hetii> ping <-> pong
[10:07] <Denlobah> well it seems that if i move my mouse after closing the lid the external comes back on.  This is odd behavior and the devs need to look at it.
[10:15] <lettuce45> hi, im on a conundrum: i use xubuntu and I have a problem with kde and qt icons: they just dont appear on the overhead panel. Now, if I asked this on xubuntu, id have to wait way much more time for an answer than here, and I dont know the chances you work with xfce. If I wanted to start a thread on the forums, where should I do it? I want a fast answer
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> !forum | lettuce45
[10:26] <cfhowlett> lettuce45, ask #xfce
[10:27] <lettuce45> cfhowlett, i alreadyd did, they suggested to aske the vendor, which im doing
[10:31] <xieyi> why does not netbeans under ubuntu 15.10 list any available plugins?
[10:31] <xieyi> How could I install netbeans plugins
[10:36] <pirate> How do I use the new amdgpu kernel driver? I installed the package xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu and rebooted; how do I know if I'm using it instead of radeo?
[10:37] <pirate> xieyi: Plugins are installed individually http://wiki.netbeans.org/InstallingAPlugin
[10:39] <xieyi> pirate: thx
[10:42] <anony> Hey everyone. Has anyone managed to install Steam on 15.10? http://paste.ubuntu.com/12942218/
[10:44] <pirate> anony: It's a known bug in Steam, see here, there might be a workaround http://askubuntu.com/a/614458
[10:46] <MoonUnit`> running this flushes the bad drivers for steam, from the arch wiki but still works for me.  : find ~/.steam/root/ \( -name "libgcc_s.so*" -o -name "libstdc++.so*" -o -name "libxcb.so*" \) -print -delete
[10:47] <anony> pirate, MoonUnit` I see* thank you for the information.
[10:47] <pirate> anony: MoonUnit's command is the same as my link, just in a one-liner
[10:48] <Rudde> Hello! I'm running ubuntu server and I was wondering if there are any easy way of making KVM VM's?
[10:48] <hrusti_> how to bind keyboard arrows to numpad?
[10:48] <pirate> Rudde: There's a few tools for that, see this wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/CreateGuests
[10:49] <pirate> Rudde: It might be a bit out of date but still useful
[10:50] <Rudde> I've tried virt-amanmager many times
[10:51] <Rudde> but the xml files are really hard to work with
[10:51] <Rudde> and confusing
[10:51] <pirate> I think that's just part of the territory, unfortunately
[10:51] <pirate> they're XML files so they can be programmatically created, checked into source control, etc
[10:52] <Rudde> Are there any web tools I can use to create them or a reference to work out from?
[10:52] <Rudde> Where I can speciy arch, ram, cores etc..?
[10:52] <pirate> Rudde: I don't know a lot about KVM but perhaps you could make one with some GUI tool, and then use that XML to make small changes?
[10:53] <pirate> ^peter^: There is a #kvm channel on this network too
[10:53] <pirate> Rudde: ^
[10:53] <MoonUnit`> i use virt-manger too, but annoying if you have a root and home seperate partitions . by default images will go in /var/lib/libvirt/images
[10:53] <MoonUnit`> so could fill up your root partition
[10:53] <MonkeyDust> Rudde  also check out vagrant and lxc
[10:55] <akik> MoonUnit`: you can mount a separate partition from other storage to /var/lib/libvirt/images
[10:55] <dionysus69> when I do this in virtualbox.desktop file Exec=gksudo -k -u root virtualbox, the app doesnt start. what am I doing wrong?
[10:56] <MoonUnit`> akik, made a symlink for images so it points to a folder in /home/
[10:56] <hetii> Q: when /etc/fstab is evaluated?
[10:57] <pirate> hetii: When the upstart job configured in /etc/init/mountall.conf  is run, during system boot
[10:57] <bekks> hetii: A: whenever it is needed.
[10:57] <EriC^^> dionysus69: might work without -k
[10:57] <bekks> hetii: Whats the actual issue leading to your question?
[10:57] <bekks> dionysus69: Dont start virtualbox as root.
[10:58] <hetii> bekks: I try guess why toram option do not use entry from /etc/fstab
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> pirate  it may be different in Mint, tho, better ask in the Mint channel
[10:58] <pirate> dionysus69: why do you think you need to run vbox as root? maybe we could help with that problem instead
[10:58] <dionysus69> bekks: i need to, I am running windows that is on my real SSD
[10:58] <bekks> dionysus69: Its basically never needed and insecure, theoretically.
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> hetii  ^^
[10:58] <pirate> MonkeyDust: What's mint got to do with it?
[10:58] <bekks> dionysus69: no one needs to. Even not in your use case.
[10:58] <MonkeyDust> pirate  was not for you
[10:58] <cuoreDi> Hello' what is the best way to set up a free proxy ?any specific tool?
[10:58] <Rudde> MonkeyDust: I can't rewally use kernel 4 since I have alot of drivers I only know works in kernel 3 right now.
[10:58] <pirate> cuoreDi: probably apache?
[10:58] <ikonia> cuoreDi: squid ?
[10:58] <pirate> cuoreDi: What do you want to do with it?
[10:59] <dionysus69> bekks: then fine, help me start a vm that is on my hard drive without sudo :D
[10:59] <pirate> dionysus69: are you virtualising a real windows install?
[10:59] <pirate> dionysus69: does that even work?
[10:59] <EriC^^> pirate: he's using a raw disk image i assume
[10:59] <bekks> dionysus69: No big deal. Add your user to the "disk" usergroup, and create an appropriate udev rule assigning the correct permissions on the device nodes needed.
[10:59] <icebal> cuoreDi: Pritunl
[10:59] <icebal> oops
[11:00] <icebal> thats vpn...
[11:00] <cuoreDi> I want to change my ip to bypass a site restrictiin
[11:00] <pirate> How do I use the new amdgpu kernel driver? I installed the package xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu and rebooted; how do I know if I'm using it instead of radeon?
[11:00] <dionysus69> pirate: yes I have done it many times
[11:00] <bekks> cuoreDi: Sochaneg your IP.
[11:00] <pirate> cuoreDi: you could use a VPN
[11:00] <bekks> cuoreDi: So change your IP.
[11:00] <ikonia> cuoreDi: not going to help you with that in here
[11:00] <pirate> cuoreDi: there's a million and one crappy browser extensions that do what you want
[11:00] <icebal> host it on digital ocean for an hour
[11:00] <dionysus69> bekks: huge deal for me I dont know how to do any of that :D
[11:00] <cuoreDi> Restriction to my country
[11:00] <bekks> dionysus69: Still root is the worst approach.
[11:01] <pirate> cuoreDi: Read this, come back and ask questions http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-setup-transparent-proxy-squid-howto.html
[11:01] <dionysus69> bekks: I know but I dont know how to do it better :P if you teach me its fine though :D ok so first I add my user to usergroup disk
[11:01] <dionysus69> then?
[11:01] <icebal> cuoreDi: digitalocean.com and setup Pritunl. its a vpn server that is one click deploy pretty much
[11:01] <cuoreDi> Thank you
[11:01] <bekks> dionysus69: then you need to create an udev rule to change the permissions of the device nodes needed.
[11:02] <dionysus69> ok so how do I do that? my device is sda, bekks
[11:03] <bekks> dionysus69: Similar to this: http://linux.campacasa.eu/VirtualBox_and_Raw_Disk_Access - the udev rule is explaied there.
[11:03] <bekks> dionysus69: using the vboxuser group would be more sane, but using disk instead should do the job, too.
[11:04] <dionysus69> ok thanks will take a look
[11:05] <dionysus69> bekks: btw I broke my setup twice already because I missclicked on a grub to launch running ubuntu second time. bad.
[11:06] <bekks> dionysus69: Dont do it then. :P
[11:06] <dionysus69> bekks: well it wont happen again if I dont run virtualbox with sudo
[11:15] <capsicum1> looking at giving lxd a try under ubuntu.
[11:31] <swengin> I have a long running process in ssh but my connection was reset and ssh is stuck and I can't see any progress in the process
[11:31] <swengin> is there anyway to refresh the shell?
[11:33] <ikonia> ssh is stuck ? what do you mean ?
[11:34] <swengin> the process running was showing progress and after connection reset not any more
[11:34] <ikonia> no, because all processes will be terminated when your session dies
[11:35] <swengin> cool
[11:50] <mike432> UBUNTU DEBIAN files released for encrypting E-Mail Client and Messenger GOLDBUG
[11:50] <mike432> http://sourceforge.net/projects/goldbug/
[11:50] <ikonia> mike432: ? what's the problem ?
[11:51] <mike432> https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Goldbug
[11:51] <ikonia> mike432: no mike
[11:51] <ikonia> stop spamming
[11:51] <ikonia> unless you atually need help with it, don't want to hear about it again please.
[11:52] <mike432> i looked at it
[11:52] <mike432> and have some questions if someone is awar, but i will find out
[11:52] <ikonia> mike432: you've spammed it in 6 channels blindly - stop
[11:53] <bekks> mike432: I you have questions about it, ask the authors of that project.
[11:56] <jim87> hello! I'm getting a strange problem: my system all of a sudden freezes... how can I debug a thing like this? Memtest+ reports no errors and (on Windows, stable) the Intel Burn Test passes 50 steps with the maximum stress. Any hint?
[11:57] <jim87> REISUB does not work when frozen btw
[11:57] <bekks> jim87: How long did you run memtest+?
[11:57] <jim87> bekks: 3 hours
[11:57] <bekks> jim87: Are the keyboard LED blinking when it freezes?
[11:57] <jim87> nope, it doesn't seem to be a kernel panic =\
[11:58] <bekks> jim87: Then you have to take a look at the logs in /var/log/
[11:58] <ikonia> jim87: so if you touch caps lock, the light doesn't come on / off ?
[11:58] <jim87> ikonia: nothing, the system is completely unresponsive
[11:58] <jim87> I thought of a nVidia driver issue, but again REISUB should still work at that poing
[11:58] <jim87> point
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> jim87: wich brand is this machine?
[11:59] <ikonia> jim87: you'll have to go back to basic, pulling hardware any seeing which bit casuses
[11:59] <jim87> lotuspsychje: I've built it...
[11:59] <ikonia> it sounds like  hardware problem, either compatability or failure (less likley failure)
[11:59] <jim87> ikonia: will try... starting from the RAM I suppose (even if it's rock solid in memtest and Windows? but for Windows it could be a different mem management)
[12:00] <lotuspsychje> jim87: ive had an acer once that freezed with netboot on ubuntu, was working on windows
[12:00] <ikonia> windows isn't really a good "test", you won't like it, but leave memtest runing for 24 hours to gain some confidence
[12:00] <bekks> jim87: How often did it freeze until now?
[12:00] <ikonia> then move forward from there
[12:01] <jim87> bekks: I've installed it yesterday, and it froze in LiveCD... today again. I tried installing Ubuntu before and the same happened (so that I returned to Windows... but I want to fix this *stupid* problem)
[12:01] <jim87> ikonia: if only I could let the computer run "idle" for 24h :P I will try with at least 18h
[12:01] <lotuspsychje> jim87: uefi system?
[12:02] <jim87> lotuspsychje: yep
[12:02] <ikonia> jim87: why cant you let it run for 24 hours but you can for 18 ?
[12:02] <jim87> ikonia: I need to work in the evening
[12:02] <bekks> jim87: Not on that machine :P
[12:02] <jim87> bekks: the only one I've got at home :P
[12:03] <jim87> (btw if I don't reply is because I'm frozen lol)
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> jim87: if its singleboot, disabled fastboot and secureboot and IDE change to AHCI?
[12:03] <bekks> Yeah, sounds like successful working, too.
[12:03] <jim87> lotuspsychje: my P8P67 shouldn't have secureboot AFAIK... have to check
[12:04] <johnny_linux> sounds like video hardware
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> johnny_linux: good afternoon mate
[12:05] <johnny_linux> ive built hundreds of machines, it always pointo to video
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> jim87: can you details us about grafix card?
[12:06] <jim87> johnny_linux: is there anything I can do to let the graphic card run "natively" without the freezes? :P Don't want to rely on MESA when I've got a dedicated GFC
[12:06] <jim87> may nouveau help? I've got a 560 GTX
[12:06] <jim87> btw syslog reports no error
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> jim87: optimus card?
[12:07] <jim87> lotuspsychje: nope, it's a desktop GPU with no optimus capabilities
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> ok
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> jim87: we had issues with 970 GTX black screens this week also
[12:08] <jim87> uhm... but this is different IMO, as the screen just freezes, doesn't turn black or with artifacts
[12:09] <jim87> but in case of driver fault, shouldn't the kernel go in panic mode and blink the caplocks led?
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> jim87: you getting freezed in nomodeset also?
[12:09] <jim87> have to try - have to edit the grub line, right?
[12:09] <segin> jim87, only if it's the kernel driver going crazy. X drivers run in usermode and don't (usually) cause kernel panics
[12:09] <jim87> segin: ok, but REISUB should work at that point then
[12:10] <segin> and speaking of driver issues... I'm having an odd one of my own
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | jim87
[12:10] <jim87> I've noticed that when the freeze happens the audio card (USB one) "resets", because it interrupts the signal to the audio monitors for a second (i.e. when it resets)
[12:11] <segin> most fullscreen games (or trying to use 'xrandr -s 0' from a shell) ends up giving me either 1024x768 or 1366x768 (native), with a X viewport of only 640x480
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> jim87: wich ubuntu version was this?
[12:11] <jim87> lotuspsychje: Trusty
[12:11] <segin> I'm on 15.10 although it happened with 15.04
[12:11] <segin> I've got "hybrid graphics", using the NVIDIA GPU (GeForce GT 740m), not sure which nvidia-driver version
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> jim87: you could try a 15.10 livecd also, just to test if you can bypass that freeze
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> jim87: or loading up previous kernels on trusty
[12:13] <jim87> lotuspsychje: this happened ~ one year ago too, so I think if it's a kernel bug, it's been there by a long time
[12:13] <jim87> lotuspsychje: yep I'll try on the latest live... even if I'd prefere to stick to LTS
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> jim87: yeah, its just to test out
[12:13] <jim87> just have to find a new USB stick lol
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> :p
[12:14] <jim87> will try the memtest for as much hours as possible just to exclude mem corruption
[12:14] <jim87> even if the IBT stresses CPU and RAM a lot and it seems to be solid
[12:15] <jim87> (but again running on Windows, who knows)
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> jim87: if windows is running it fine, should be an ubuntu issue
[12:16] <jim87> lotuspsychje: that's true. I was thinking about running other distros liveCD to see if it's a common linux problem or an Ubuntu's regression
[12:16] <symbiiote> Hey people
[12:16] <jim87> hoy
[12:16] <symbiiote> Whats going on in our internet world today?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> jim87: i would start with nomodeset/live 15.10/previous trusty kernel
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | symbiiote
[12:17] <jim87> lotuspsychje: will try nomodeset and live CD. worst thing is that I don't know what's going on - whatever happens it's not logged down in the logs
[12:17] <jim87> *sigh* at least Windows has the BSOD and minidump
[12:17] <jim87> is there a way to let Linux create a dump in these cases?
[12:18] <bekks> jim87: Which doesnt help you in case of a freeze, either.
[12:18] <bekks> jim87: If the thing freezes, thedump writing mechanisms are frozen too.
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> jim87: try F1 or ESC if you can reach to purple ubuntu screen loading to catch errors
[12:19] <jim87> lotuspsychje: when it freezes, it's completely unresponsive... only way to go on is to force shutdown via hardware button
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> jim87: yeah thats what bekks just said
[12:19] <jim87> btw now it's not freezing... like a bomb, it may explode anytime
[12:20] <segin> okay, how about this: How do I manually set a screen size (not resolution) using 'xrandr' from a shell?
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | segin can this help?
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> !info arandr | segin or try GUI
[12:21] <segin> lotuspsychje, maybe. When games, etc. try to go fullscreen, they get a virtual screen size of 640x480 at the screen resolution the requested
[12:21] <segin> lotuspsychje, this is highly annoying and also reproducible with simply 'xrandr -s 0' as well
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> segin: even when the game settings were set correctly?
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> hi BluesKaj
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> segin  open the xrandr man page ... then hit / ... type 'screen size' and hit enter   (without quotes)
[12:22] <Twirl> hi, anyone knows how to add/create color profiles? the color settings in the system settings comes with a lot of preset color profiles but i need to try something else
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: good afternoon
[12:22] <segin> lotuspsychje, I have no idea; this happens for freshly-installed games as well
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[12:22] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[12:23] <segin> also arandr has nothing on screen size (as opposed to resolution) in the UI it gives.
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> segin  the xrandr man page suggests --fb
[12:26] <giannis> hi
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> segin  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12942906/
[12:28] <vkt> has anyone ever encountered the error: invlaid magic number. unaligned pointer 0xde061d38? I've run fsck, boot-repair and a bunch of other stuff. Google cant seem to help either.
[12:29] <cyberalex4life> hi guys, I'm getting 'No volume groups found' when updating grub, I have a gpt partition table, system boots nicely
[12:29] <bekks> vkt: The message tells you exactly what to do.
[12:29] <cyberalex4life> do you know if I should worry or is this can be fixed?
[12:29] <xhip> guys I never did this.. and I need some help
[12:29] <segin> MonkeyDust, hitting / and doing a search told me to use --fb, not --size. And all that did is result in a blank screen with the backlight turned off. Recovery from a console didn't remedy (e.g. DISPLAY=:0 xrandr -s 0). Had to kill X and let lxdm restart it.
[12:29] <ikonia> never did what ?
[12:30] <bekks> vkt: you got a severe fs problem, and you need to run fsck -f from a live medium.
[12:30] <vkt> bekks Press any key to exit?
[12:30] <xhip> "a new version of /boot/grub/menu.lst is available..."
[12:30] <ikonia> what's offering you that ?
[12:30] <xhip> I will take a print
[12:30] <vkt> bekks: I did, managed to fix the fs to the point where i could recover my data from a live medium
[12:30] <ikonia> xhip: no
[12:31] <ikonia> xhip: "what is offering this to you" - don't need a screen shot
[12:31] <xhip> have like 7 options
[12:31] <xhip> one default is "keep the local version currently installed"
[12:31] <k1l_> xhip: what are you doing at all? upgrading your ubuntu version?
[12:31] <xhip> this is a dist-update
[12:31] <ikonia> xhip: what EXACTLY hav eyou done
[12:32] <k1l_> xhip: from what to what?
[12:32]  * cfhowlett thinks "What we have heah is failure to communicate ..."
[12:32] <xhip> ok I only  "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:32] <ikonia> xhip: nothing before that
[12:32] <xhip> no
[12:32] <k1l_> menu.list sounds like some really old ubuntu? what is that exactly? xhip
[12:32] <ikonia> so it's just updated the kernel
[12:32] <buntugeek> hello everyone, where should i have my installation folder for a ide?
[12:32] <bekks> vkt: did you run fsck or fsck -f ?
[12:33] <buntugeek> stupid question i know ._.
[12:33] <segin> MonkeyDust, also, --size (-s) doesn't help; specifying by index only gives a single list entry (0) and now we're back to where we started.
[12:33] <ikonia> buntugeek: anywhere you want
[12:33] <buntugeek> i have my android studio in the home directory
[12:33] <xhip> ikonia  yes
[12:33] <ikonia> buntugeek: ok ?
[12:33] <vkt> bekks: i miss read, only rank fsck
[12:34] <bekks> vkt: so run fsck -f from a live medium.
[12:34] <buntugeek> ikonia: and i have sublime and eclipse in /opt folder
[12:34] <ikonia> buntugeek: ok ?
[12:34] <vkt> bekks: on it, thx =)
[12:35] <buntugeek> ikonia: is /opt a special folder for installing external softwares? I just dont want to cluter my home directory
[12:35] <ikonia> buntugeek: no
[12:36] <xhip> so guys witch option should I go.. http://i.imgur.com/Uhe2F1P.png
[12:36] <ikonia> xhip: top
[12:36] <xhip> ok thanks
[12:36] <k1l_> xhip: what ubuntu is that exactly?
[12:37] <ikonia> looks like the grub->grub2 upgrade,
[12:38] <xhip> k1l_ I think is just a kernel update, I was getting a “The following packages have been kept back:”
[12:38] <xhip> so I did the dist-update
[12:38] <ikonia> xhip: what version of ubuntu are you running
[12:38] <ikonia> packages held back sounds a very bad thing
[12:39] <k1l_> xhip: "lsb_release -d" gives you what?
[12:39] <xhip> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[12:39] <ikonia> so thats not grub2 upgrade, thats just a kernel update, which shouldn't be asing you to merge grub config
[12:40] <xhip> ok so on new headers I can do the first opt .. right
[12:40] <xhip> just to learn..
[12:40] <bekks> xhip: kernel headers are unrelated to that grub message.
[12:41] <ikonia> xhip: there must be something you are not telling us
[12:41] <xhip> this was the reason that I did that:
[12:41] <xhip> The following packages have been kept back:
[12:41] <xhip>   linux-headers-generic-lts-utopic linux-headers-virtual-lts-utopic
[12:41] <xhip>   linux-image-virtual-lts-utopic linux-image-virtual-lts-vivid
[12:41] <mahdi_> hello
[12:41] <k1l_> menu.lst is grub1. so either that is an old install upgraded to 14.04 and kept grub1 or its a strange setup
[12:42] <mahdi_> can i ask Question
[12:42] <ngaio> is there a known bug with "ImportError: No module named glib" on Unity & 15.10? A desktop with no Unity and no Compiz is not easy to use!
[12:42] <bekks> mahdi_: Yes.
[12:42] <mahdi_> ?
[12:42] <k1l_> xhip: put all the terminal output into a pastebin
[12:42] <k1l_> !paste | xhip
[12:42] <lotuspsychje> xhip: are you trying to upgrade to 14.10?
[12:43] <vkt> bekks so fsck -f fixed a few inodes but booting results in the same error msg
[12:43] <ikonia> menu.lst still gets generated in grub2 as it's a symlink,
[12:44] <bekks> vkt: Then your underlying disk is damages and you should immediately replace it.
[12:44] <ikonia> grub.conf, so it still could be a symlink
[12:44] <xhip> weird.. I just wanted to apt-update and upgrade..
[12:44] <xhip> not nothing super advance lol
[12:44] <xhip> but let me past it
[12:44] <ikonia> paste what ?
[12:44] <ngaio> this is the error I get when trying to start Unity from the command line: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12943045/
[12:45] <bekks> ngaio: Why dont you use lightdm instead?
[12:45] <ikonia> ngaio: why are you starting unity from the command line
[12:45] <soupnanodesukar> pci passthrough is broken in 4.2
[12:45] <soupnanodesukar> just fyi
[12:45] <ngaio> bekks, ikonia because it's crashing when I load the desktop
[12:45] <ikonia> soupnanodesukar: you've just said random words
[12:45] <ikonia> soupnanodesukar: if you want help, please ask clearly
[12:46] <vkt> bekks: I actually recall the incident most probably causing physical damage to my ssd... thx for your adivce.
[12:46] <bekks> vkt: Which incident was it? :)
[12:46] <ikonia> ngaio: a.) what version of ubuntu is this b.) has this always been broke since install or has something changed
[12:47] <vkt> bekks: using the wrong modular power cable to connect the ssd. I remember something probably was shorted out and started to smell.
[12:47] <ngaio> ikonia, Ubuntu 15.10, upgraded using install from USB flash into a new partition today. Unity worked fine for me in 15.04
[12:47] <ngaio> compiz is not loading either, so no window decorations
[12:49] <xhip> Logs here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12943068/ @k1l_ @ikonia
[12:49] <ioria> ngaio, Guest Account ?
[12:49] <ngaio> ioria, no regular account. I keep /home on a separate partition
[12:49] <ngaio> ioria, oh you're suggesting I try a guest account?
[12:49] <ngaio> I didn't try that yet
[12:49] <ikonia> xhip: I'd jus pick the first option
[12:49] <ioria> ngaio, i mean have  you  tried Guest Account ?
[12:50] <xhip> ikonia  I did tha
[12:50] <ngaio> how do I logout with no window decorations and no unity? can I do it from the command line
[12:50] <xhip> that*
[12:50] <ikonia> if you're missing modules, a different user isn't going to work
[12:50] <k1l_> xhip: the utopic kenrel is end of life. sudo apt-get remove linux-headers-generic-lts-utopic linux-headers-virtual-lts-utopic linux-image-virtual-lts-utopic
[12:50] <ioria> ngaio, sudo service lightdm restart ?
[12:50] <ikonia> shouldn't auto clean pick that up ?
[12:50] <ngaio> ioria, thanks, I'll try it now
[12:51] <xhip> I was thinking of running now autoremove
[12:51] <xhip> got this: The following packages will be REMOVED: linux-image-3.16.0-45-generic
[12:51] <k1l_> ikonia: if that is marked as manually installed, no.
[12:51] <k1l_> xhip: yes. that is right.
[12:52] <ikonia> k1l_: ahh, so the manual install blocks it from being cleaned up
[12:52] <xhip> ok it finished.
[12:53] <xhip> k1l_  should I run that remove that you send me?
[12:53] <k1l_> xhip: yes
[12:53] <xhip> that is to remove old headers right?
[12:54] <k1l_> xhip: no. the 3.16 kernel is from the 14.10 backport, which is EOL. you have the 3.19 kernel installed anyway.
[12:55] <xhip> oh ok, you the system is already linked to the new version right.. so I can remove the last ok ok
[12:55] <ngaio> back again. I'm the user with Unity failing to start with my regular user. In a guest session, Unity works! So something is wrong with my user config. Can I reset it from the command line while logged into X (with no window decorations and no unity)?
[12:55] <ioria> ngaio, .compiz    ,  .config   or  both
[12:56] <xhip> :) Welcome to Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS (GNU/Linux 3.19.0-25-generic x86_64)
[12:56] <xhip> done ;D
[12:56] <ngaio> ioria, what's the suggestion? narrow it down to one of those two dirs?
[12:57] <ioria> ngaio,   try to back  up the two folders
[12:57] <ngaio> ioria, thanks, I'll do that and login again
[12:57] <ioria> ngaio,  ok
[12:57] <xhip> going to restart the system
[12:59] <mcphail> ngaio: can you right-click on the dektop and access a terminal?
[13:01] <ngaio> ioria, bekks and one more person,thank you very much for your help, I now have Unity back and working with my regular user! Thanks again, your help is much appreciated
[13:01] <demonlove> can anyone give me the way how to compose makefile?
[13:01] <ioria> ngaio,  you'r welcome ,
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> !compile | demonlove
[13:03] <demonlove> f..k no one is here!!
[13:04] <cfhowlett> demonlove, drop the profanity.
[13:14] <xhip> back :)
[13:15] <MonkeyDust> missed you
[13:16] <xhip> Thanks for all the help @k1l_ @ikonia you guys are awesome
[13:18] <ziad> i need help instaling ubuntu sdk
[13:18] <parv> j
[13:28] <cm-t> hi, I just installed apt://steam on my 64bit Ubuntu 15.10 but steam controller does not works (worked on a 14.04.3 LTS)
[13:28] <cm-t> I'am a bit confuse because howto like https://askubuntu.com/questions/686214/how-do-i-get-a-steam-controller-working are saying it should work on 15.10
[13:29] <cm-t> note: I installed 15.10 on not formated partition with 14.04.3 LTS (not the one where I tested the steam controller)
[13:35] <ioria> cm-t found something that sounds as a workaround ... not  a solution
[13:36] <trollolol> "E: The value 'vivid' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources"
[13:37] <trollolol> I always get this error after upgrade lol
[13:37] <cm-t> ioria: ok
[13:37] <trollolol> This is for Synaptic
[13:37] <trollolol> Anyone remember where the setting is to fix it lol?
[13:37] <MonkeyDust> trollolol  drop the 'lol'
[13:37] <Twirl> Hi, i changed the cable of my monitor and now ubuntu doesnt recognize it??
[13:38] <MonkeyDust> trollolol  paste the output of   sudo apt-update
[13:38] <Twirl> it displays the image but it shows up as "Unknown display" wtf??
[13:38] <ioria> cm-t you should create a  new rule : /lib/udev/rules.d/99-steam-controller-perms.rules
[13:38] <cm-t> ioria: as seen on the askubuntu link above ↑ ?
[13:39] <TJ-> Twirl: that means the cable is broken; it isn't providing the DDC connection so the GPU driver cannot get the EDID info
[13:39] <ioria> cm-t inside it :  SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="28de", MODE="0666"        and  KERNEL=="hidraw*", SUBSYSTEM=="hidraw", ATTRS{idVendor}=="2833", MODE="0666"
[13:39] <cm-t> i see
[13:39] <Twirl> TJ-: the cable is new and it renders the image fine
[13:39] <Twirl> TJ-: is there anything i can do? i just spent 5 euro in this shit!!
[13:40] <ioria> cm-t  the  rule isdifferent
[13:40] <TJ-> Twirl: So? you already said the monitor isn't recognised. That means no EDID info from the monitor, which is fetched over the DDC link (assuming we're talking about VGA or DVI-I (analog connections)
[13:40] <ioria> cm-t  then sudo chmod 666 /dev/uinput
[13:40] <trollolol> It's okay I fixed it :D
[13:40] <TJ-> Twirl: double-check in /var/log/Xorg.0.log - you'll probably see a message there about the EDID info either corrupt or unavailable
[13:41] <trollolol> But yeah i had to go through my source.list.d directory :D
[13:41] <ioria> cm-t  and to make all stable you should  install python3-autopilot, that  is  a very   big package
[13:41] <ioria> cm-t  note  that  i'm just reading a web page :P
[13:42] <Twirl> TJ-: no it doesnt say anything of that, man this cable is 100% new i just took it off the package, it is very good quality too and the image renders just fine
[13:42] <TJ-> Twirl: Is it VGA, if not, what is it?
[13:42] <Twirl> TJ-: yes its VGA
[13:42] <TJ-> Twirl: "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[13:42] <Twirl> TJ-: im looking at it, no errors
[13:43] <Twirl> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=yVKMpcTg
[13:43] <demonlove> hello i  have downloaded sublime in zip format and unzip it but dont know how to run it by cmd line/
[13:43] <TJ-> Twirl: that's not a complete log-file, can you pastebin the entire file
[13:44] <demonlove> evertime i have to go to that unzip folder the open sublime file to get it open, i  want to run it by cmd line..
[13:45] <TJ-> demonlove: presumably you 'unzip' the archive to some directory, and the executable is inside that directory?
[13:45] <Twirl> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=VrpcrJPm
[13:45] <cm-t> ioria: added the rule, chmod, the python3-autopilot was already installed, do i need to reboot system, or just steam, or?
[13:46] <ioria> cm-t  reboot
[13:46] <cm-t> ioria: ok, see you soon :)
[13:47] <demonlove> TJ- just take an example if i  want to open geany i  go  to terminal and write geany and it got open same way why didn.t sublimw works!!
[13:47] <Twirl> TJ-: see anything weird?
[13:47] <TJ-> Twirl: OK, so that tells us there are 2 active outputs,  LVDS1 (the laptop display) and HDMI1 (1920x1200)
[13:47] <TJ-> Twirl: Are you trying to add a 3rd display?
[13:48] <Twirl> TJ-: yea i have two external monitors the laptop screen isnt being used
[13:48] <Twirl> TJ-: i had to change the cable of one of them because it was a bad cable and it was looking blurry
[13:48] <Obelus> demonlove, because geany is in your path, but Sublime is not
[13:48] <demonlove> how to add sublime in path
[13:48] <TJ-> Twirl: I doubt that will work; I know of no IGP that can drive 3 heads simultaneously; 2 is usually the limit
[13:48] <Twirl> TJ-: so i bought a new one and it looks fine but it doesnt detect the display so i cant change the freaking resolution
[13:49] <Twirl> TJ-: ????? dude i have this working fine witha nother cable wtf are u talking about
[13:49] <demonlove> Obelus:
[13:49] <cm-t> ioria: did not work :(
[13:49] <TJ-> Twirl: The log shows some EDID for SEC, with 1366x768 resolution
[13:49] <ioria> cm-t  oh... deeply sorry
[13:50] <Obelus> if you open a terminal and go into the directory that the sublime executable is in, you can type export PATH=`pwd`;$PATH
[13:50] <Twirl> TJ-: the notebook screen isnt being used its turned off man
[13:50] <Obelus> demonlove, that would do it temporarily; you'd want to add it to your path in your bash profile to make it permanent.
[13:51] <TJ-> Twirl: that's what I said; almost all GPUs will only drive a maximum of 2 'heads' (ouptuts) at once. They might have 5 outputs but only 2 can be active at the same time.
[13:51] <Twirl> TJ-: im only using 2 monitors man
[13:51] <TJ-> Twirl: Is the VGA1 monitor make "SEC" ? if so, that reports "[    71.877] (II) intel(0): EDID vendor "SEC", prod id 14145"
[13:51] <demonlove> how to add it in bash file
[13:52] <demonlove> cant i  do everything in one cmd , if yes give me that cmd
[13:52] <Twirl> TJ-: well the EDID with the other cable is probably showing the right one
[13:52] <TJ-> Twirl: the monitor reports it is able to do "[    71.877] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1366x768"x0.0   72.33  1366 1414 1446 1526  768 770 775 790 -hsync -vsync (47.4 kHz eP)"  but is then configured to use "[    72.412] (II) intel(0): switch to mode 1024x768@60.0 on VGA1 using pipe 1, position (1920, 0), rotation normal, reflection none"
[13:52] <TJ-> Twirl: So it looks the cause is the driver isn't choosing the only mode the monitor offers; which would explain weird display
[13:52] <ioria> cm-t  did you  replace ATTRS{idVendor} with your  own  ?
[13:53] <Obelus> demonlove, what directory is the Sublime executable in?
[13:53] <Twirl> TJ-: i think its because this cable is shit tbh
[13:53] <TJ-> Twirl: if VGA1 is currently connected can you "pastebinit <( xrandr -q )"
[13:53] <Twirl> but its fucking annoying because i just bought it
[13:53] <demonlove> ?
[13:54] <demonlove> i have put in adir i have made do i need to cut it and padte it in bash folder
[13:54] <Twirl> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=T3iJidH8
[13:54] <Obelus> demonlove, where did you extract Sublime to?
[13:54] <demonlove> in a dir i  have made name new
[13:55] <Twirl> this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1675503 says its because of the cable
[13:55] <demonlove> previously it was in download folder
[13:55] <cm-t> ioria: weird, the rule file is emty, I usualy use vm, but used nano, I think I miss save the file X)
[13:55] <Obelus> I need to know the full path to where it is to help you.
[13:55] <cm-t> ioria: may you regive me the content please ?
[13:56] <cm-t> vim*
[13:56] <demonlove> m giving you
[13:56] <TJ-> Twirl: OK, so the EDID 'SEC' info comes from the LVDS1. There's none from VGA1 and therefore the only modes available are the industry standard VESA modes for VGA/SVGA/XGA. If you can get the DDC connected then the EDID info should be gathered, and the monitor can select the correct mode
[13:56] <ioria> cm-t, sure...  i mean  you need the ATTRS{idVendor}  of your device  .... lspci -nn
[13:57] <Twirl> TJ-: yea its the fucking cable because the other cable works fine but it looks like crap this one looks much better
[13:57] <Twirl> i could force a resolution into it i guess
[13:57] <demonlove> Obelus:  25-Sun-07:26 [~/h_rank/Sublime Text 2]
[13:57] <ioria> cm-t, SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTRS{idVendor}=="28de", MODE="0666"    and  KERNEL=="hidraw*", SUBSYSTEM=="hidraw", ATTRS{idVendor}=="2833", MODE="0666"
[13:57] <demonlove> in that folder sublime got extracted and have 8 sub folder
[13:58] <TJ-> Twirl: Style over substance, huh? If you have a multimeter you could test continuity on the DDC (SDA, pin 12) of the VGA cable
[13:58] <TJ-> Twirl: see for a pin-out diagram: http://pinouts.ru/Video/VGAVesaDdc_pinout.shtml
[13:59] <Twirl> TJ-: no i dont have a multimeter man
[13:59] <TJ-> Twirl: use the good cable then
[13:59] <Obelus> demonlove: is the executable you open for Sublime directly in that folder?
[13:59] <demonlove> yes
[14:00] <demonlove> sublime_text
[14:00] <Twirl> it wasnt good it was crap it looked all blurry so i had to change it, tried anther one and it looked good but i had trouble connecting it so i decided to buy a new one TJ- and this new one cost me 5€
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> Twirl  what was your initial question?
[14:01] <Obelus> demonlove, you can try typing the following: ln -s ~/h_rank/Sublime\ Text\ 2/sublime_text /usr/bin/sublime
[14:01] <TJ-> Twirl: is the cable particularly long? You seem to have a bad pick of VGA cables there! The only time I've really seen bad signalling on VGA is with KVMs
[14:01] <Obelus> That should put a link called 'sublime' in your /usr/bin folder so you can just type 'sublime' to open it.
[14:01] <Twirl> MonkeyDust: changed my cable and ubuntu desnt recognize the display so it shows up as unknown device
[14:02] <Twirl> TJ-: no its 1.5m
[14:02] <TJ-> Twirl: have you checked the pins in the connectors to ensure one or more arent' bent out of place ? I've seen that happen with brand new cables
[14:03] <Twirl> TJ-: no the cable is factory new
[14:03] <demonlove> in root folder?
[14:03] <Twirl> it also looks really good not all blurry like the one i had replaced it
[14:03] <TJ-> Twirl: Doesn't matter how new; pins can get bent before, or even the first time they are plugged in. It's always the first thing I check when DDC isn't working
[14:03] <demonlove> i  have run it in root folder it got run with no error!!
[14:04] <Obelus> demonlove, you should now be able to type 'sublime' into your terminal to start it
[14:04] <Obelus> demonlove, give it a try.
[14:04] <demonlove> not happening!!
[14:04] <demonlove> says command not found?
[14:04] <Twirl> TJ-: nope the pins are good, im going to ask for a refound but its freaking stupid i had to walk 10 blocks to get this crap and it was sealed and i'm worried the lady wont give me my 5€ back
[14:04] <Twirl> or 3 hours of my life
[14:07] <Obelus> demonlove, what do you get when you type ls /usr/bin/sublime
[14:07] <demonlove> Obelus??
[14:07] <demonlove> cannot access , permission denied
[14:08] <demonlove> but your cmd run successful in root folder
[14:08] <atralheaven_> Hello, how can I replace space character " " with underline character "_" in name of all files in a directory?
[14:08] <Obelus> demonlove, are you getting a permission denied error typing 'ls /usr/bin/sublime'
[14:09] <shamsky> sed -i "s//_/g" *
[14:09] <demonlove> yes
[14:09] <demonlove> ls: cannot access /usr/bin/sublime: Permission denied
[14:09] <demonlove> this is the error
[14:10] <Obelus> demonlove, try 'ls -l /usr/bin/ | grep sublime'
[14:10] <atralheaven_> shamsky: how can I mix it with mv command?
[14:11] <demonlove> it give some list and its timmi9ng
[14:11] <ioria> cm-t, http://steamcommunity.com/app/353370/discussions/0/490123197945710268/#c490123197945767207
[14:12] <TJ-> atralheaven_: see "man rename"
[14:12] <shamsky> sed -i "s//_/g" * ; mv  file file2
[14:12] <Obelus> demonlove, Can you show me? It shouldn't have too much in the list because of the grep.
[14:13] <demonlove> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root          40 Oct 25 19:33 sublime -> /root/h_rank/Sublime Text 2/sublime_text
[14:13] <demonlove> this is exactly what i  got!!
[14:13] <atralheaven_> TJ-: I didn't know we have rename command! I always used mv. thatnks
[14:15] <BernhardPosselt1> hi i was wondering if php5 (5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.13) is equal to 5.5.23
[14:15] <Obelus> demonlove, is sublime in /root/h_rank/... or in your actual user folder?
[14:16] <TJ-> BernhardPosselt1: 5.5.9 is the upstream version of 5.5.9+dfsg-1ubuntu4.13
[14:16] <Twirl> TJ-: just switched back to the working cable and it recognizes it just fine
[14:16] <Twirl> TJ-: gonna try to get a refound, fml
[14:16] <TJ-> Obelus: looks like demonlove accidentally extracted the Sublime archive using sudo
[14:16] <BernhardPosselt1> i need this fix https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=64938
[14:17] <demonlove> Obelus  :?
[14:18] <Obelus> TJ-, I was thinking that the ln command was run in sudo, but Sublime is extracted in the actual folder.
[14:20] <TJ-> Obelus: yeah, which explains why trying to 'ls' the symlink got permission denied
[14:21] <TJ-> BernhardPosselt1: There isn't a later version available for 14.04; you might want to report a bug against php5 package and 'ping' one the package maintainers to see if they'll do an SRU (stable release update) to include the patch
[14:21] <Obelus> demonlove, can you type 'rm /usr/bin/sublime'
[14:21] <Obelus> demonlove, and then open a new terminal window that's not running sudo or running as root, then re-run the ln -s command I gave you earlier
[14:21] <TJ-> Obelus: "sudo rm /usr/bin/sublime" (/usr/bin/ should need UID 0 to remove any of its contents)
[14:22] <Obelus> I was under the impression that the terminal was already running as root based on the where ln -s linked to
[14:22] <TJ-> Obelus: Oh, maybe so. I assumed not due to the 'permission denied' message earlier
[14:23] <demonlove> ln -s ~/h_rank/Sublime\ Text\ 2/sublime_text /usr/bin/sublime
[14:23] <TJ-> BernhardPosselt1: 15.04 and 15.10 have php5 5.6.x packages, not much help but that would make an SRU justification easier - I suspect though the maintainers would only want to backport the specific patch.
[14:24] <demonlove> : Permission denied
[14:24] <Obelus> ... /usr/bin isn't user writable, is it?
[14:24] <BernhardPosselt1> TJ-: the issue here is https://github.com/zendframework/ZendXml/commit/79f478fa2af85ce1fc18ac132dee5aa714c3b532
[14:24] <demonlove> Obelus: i  have run rm cmd then rerun , it gave permission denied error again:
[14:24] <BernhardPosselt1> im basically wondering if i can require the users of my php app to have a patched version
[14:25] <TJ-> BernhardPosselt1: Yes, I read up on it, but to get it backported to Ubuntu 14.04 you'll need to persuade the package maintainers
[14:25] <BernhardPosselt1> TJ-: debian is not involved right?
[14:26] <TJ-> BernhardPosselt1: Post-release, no, Ubuntu carries patches separately. In the in-development work-in-progress we try to sync from debian as late as posisble to avoid massive deltas between Debian and Ubuntu
[14:26] <Obelus> demonlove, so the permission denied is on the ln -s, or on rm?
[14:26] <demonlove> ln -s
[14:27] <BernhardPosselt1> TJ-: do you know the maintainers
[14:27] <BernhardPosselt1> do you think they want to backport that fix?
[14:28] <Obelus> demonlove, what is your home folder? (if you don't know, in a terminal, type 'cd ~; pwd')
[14:29] <TJ-> BernhardPosselt1: you'll have to ask them. As I said, create a bug report, give all the info, link to the upstream bug, the patch, make a justification for why Ubuntu should have it (I think myself its pretty clear we should have it) and then contact the maintainers via their mailing list initially
[14:29] <demonlove> its /home/ankit
[14:29] <demonlove> ignore its
[14:30] <demonlove>     /home/ankit
[14:30] <Obelus> demonlove, so if you type /home/ankit/h_rank/Sublime\ Text\ 2/sublime_text
[14:30] <Obelus> demonlove, does it start sublime?
[14:30] <BernhardPosselt1> TJ-: thanks!
[14:30] <TJ-> Obelus: demonlove It might be better to use the WebUpd8 team's PPA to install it; it will be done properly then. See https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/sublime-text-2
[14:31] <Obelus> TJ-, demonlove, that would definitely be better, I wasn't aware there was a PPA for it.
[14:31] <demonlove> Obelus: yes it got opened
[14:31] <TJ-> Obelus: me neither until I searched; its so popular it would be unusual for there not to be a PPA :)
[14:32] <Obelus> demonlove, okay, at this point you can do 'sudo ln -s /home/ankit/h_rank/Sublime\ Text\ 2/sublime_text /usr/bin/sublime'
[14:32] <Obelus> demonlove, that should make the link, but honestly, the PPA that TJ- linked would be better and keep updated for you.
[14:32] <Obelus> TJ- I haven't actually used Ubuntu in ages, I'm just working on normal Linux stuff at this point :p
[14:33] <Ownasaurus> TJ-: good morning, i am going to make a windows 7 live cd to check and see if the wireless will still work on windows.  get back to you later today :)
[14:33] <Obelus> as in, I'm basing my answers on basic Linux stuff, but I'm using OS X, tbh.
[14:34] <demonlove> Obelus: how does it make link it only give > sign
[14:35] <Obelus> demonlove, I have honestly no idea what you mean. I'd recommend just using the PPA at this point.
[14:36] <demonlove> ok
[14:36] <Obelus> demonlove, do sudo rm /usr/bin/sublime
[14:36] <TJ-> demonlove: ">" means you've got unmatched quote marks and its gone into a new line
[14:37]  * trollolol is away: brb in shower
[14:37] <TJ-> demonlove: Try typing a single quote, or double-quote, and pressing Enter again
[14:38] <demonlove> anway m now looking for ppa
[14:39] <Obelus> demonlove: to add the PPA, type 'sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-2'
[14:39] <demonlove> but there it is not given how to get sublime
[14:40] <Obelus> demonlove, once you've done that, you can type 'sudo apt-get update', then 'sudo apt-get install sublime-text'
[14:41] <demonlove> Building dependency tree
[14:41] <demonlove> Reading state information... Done
[14:41] <demonlove> E: Unable to locate package sublime_text
[14:41] <sha9419> Can someone please elaborate on how to install codec packages offline?
[14:41] <demonlove> how to locate it?
[14:42] <Obelus> demonlove, did the PPA successfully add?
[14:42] <sha9419> Bdw i've downloaded the packages but dont know where to place it or what command line to run
[14:42] <demonlove> yes
[14:42] <Obelus> did you run apt-get update ?
[14:43] <demonlove> if i  want jruby i diretly type sudo apt-get jruby
[14:43] <demonlove> and it got sone but this tome it its giving path error for sublime case
[14:43] <Obelus> demonlove, did you type 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[14:44] <demonlove> m its getting update
[14:44] <Obelus> demonlove, once that's done, you should be able to do 'sudo apt-get install sublime-text'
[14:44] <Obelus> demonlove, after you add a new PPA/repository, you need to run apt-get update to let apt-get get a list of packages on the new server.
[14:45] <auronandace> demonlove: also an underscore (_) is not the same as a hyphen (-)
[14:45] <demonlove> now i doubt on myself about adding PPA!!
[14:45] <sha9419> Can someone please elaborate on how to install codec packages offline?
[14:46] <demonlove> same error again!!
[14:46] <Obelus> auronandace, ugh, I'm clearly far too tired missing this.
[14:46] <Obelus> demonlove, can you paste the command you ran?
[14:46] <SchrodingersScat> !dpkg | sha9419
[14:46] <demonlove>  apt-get update
[14:47] <demonlove> then  sudo apt-get install sublime_text
[14:47] <Obelus> it's sublime-text, not sublime_text
[14:47] <SchrodingersScat> sha9419: dpkg -i nameofpackage.deb should install
[14:47] <BernhardPosselt1> demonlove: consider checking out atom
[14:47] <demonlove> sudo apt-get install sublime-text
[14:48] <demonlove> Reading package lists... Done
[14:48] <demonlove> Building dependency tree
[14:48] <demonlove> Reading state information... Done
[14:48] <demonlove> E: Unable to locate package sublime-text
[14:48] <sha9419> ubottu: yeah, but where do i place these packages and what command should i run?
[14:49] <SchrodingersScat> sha9419: that's up to you, and I just told you, dpkg -i followed by the package
[14:49] <Obelus> TJ-, demonlove, if everything completed as it was meant to (PPA install, apt-get update completing without errors), then I just don't know at this point. It's far too late, and I'm tagging out. Night.
[14:49] <demonlove> night
[14:49] <BernhardPosselt1> TJ-: opened an issue and ticked the security checkbox, thanks for your help
[14:50] <demonlove> '_'
[14:50] <BernhardPosselt1> demonlove: https://codeforgeek.com/2014/09/install-atom-editor-ubuntu-14-04/ ;D
[14:51] <sha9419> SchrodingersScat: thanks pal. Let me try that and get back to you
[14:53] <demonlove> what does atom does?
[14:53] <demonlove> BernhardPosselt1?
[14:59] <BernhardPosselt1> demonlove: basically open source sublime
[14:59] <BernhardPosselt1> from github
[14:59] <BernhardPosselt1> ive migrated from sublime to atom
[14:59] <SchrodingersScat> BernhardPosselt1: thank you for notes, but when I paste in text it doesn't seem to trigger a save
[14:59] <BernhardPosselt1> works just as well
[15:00] <_gnom_> Could not access KVM kernel module: No such file or directory
[15:00] <_gnom_> help !!!
[15:00] <_gnom_> ubuntu 15
[15:01] <Ben64> !details | _gnom_
[15:01] <qknight> hey. i have a PPC64 bit endian platform here and https://www.debian.org/ports/ <- looking at these ports i conclude it is not supported, is that correct?
[15:01] <Ben64> qknight: you should ask #debian about that
[15:01] <qknight> oh, of course, sorry
[15:03] <_gnom_> qemu work - kvm not
[15:05] <_gnom_> Could not access KVM kernel module: No such file or directory
[15:05] <_gnom_> failed to initialize KVM: No such file or directory
[15:08] <_gnom_> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'kvm_intel': Operation not supported
[15:08] <_gnom_> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'kvm_amd': Operation not supported
[15:10] <Pazooza> Can a virus or trojan move from a VM to the host machine?
[15:11] <cfhowlett> Pazooza, unlikely.  not impossible.
[15:11] <cfhowlett> make that highly unlikely.
[15:12] <auronandace> Pazooza: transferring files between host and guest OS regularly would be a potential infection vector
[15:14] <kjoe666> cp?
[15:14] <Pazooza> Mounting and unmounting usb devices of the host is a problem then.
[15:16]  * trollolol is back (gone 00:39:16)
[15:17] <cristobal> Virtual box error on Ubuntu 14.04 LTS X64 http://pastebin.com/mVVuRtmw   anyone ? :S
[15:18] <auronandace> cristobal: sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[15:19] <auronandace> cristobal: you should also install the dkms package as that message suggests
[15:19] <cristobal> auronandace, modprobe: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found.
[15:19] <cristobal> i did
[15:19] <auronandace> cristobal: howdid you install vbox?
[15:19] <cristobal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1885936&page=10&s=df24561bd485d7113a09d744a38f4961   i did installed first by ubuntu software center
[15:19] <cristobal> a uninstall and re-install might help?
[15:20] <fuzuy> tets
[15:20] <fuzuy> hackme
[15:21] <fuzuy> hello
[15:21] <cfhowlett> fuzuy, no.  play somewhere else
[15:21] <auronandace> cristobal: cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[15:21] <fuzuy> ubuntu users here ?
[15:21] <amitd26> hi
[15:21] <amitd26> yup
[15:21] <cfhowlett> fuzuy, this is ubuntu support.
[15:22] <cristobal> auronandace, Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l         Linux cristobal-G73Jh 3.19.0-31-generic #36~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu Oct 8 10:21:08 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:22] <DJones> fuzuy: Its the main Ubuntu support channel, so  yes, if you have a support question, please feel free to ask it, but bear in mind this isn't a chat channel
[15:22] <amitd26> ok
[15:22] <cristobal> funny i just fresh install from 15.10 since amd drivers do not work there but everything else rocks
[15:22] <fuzuy> how i enable unity tweak ?
[15:23] <amitd26> did you apt-get install it
[15:23] <fuzuy> i did it but the app showing only run unity...
[15:25] <Saturn1> Testing
[15:25] <Saturn1> Awesome
[15:25] <cfhowlett> !test | Saturn1
[15:25] <Gentoolman> I havr not jack detection in pulse audio, how to fix?
[15:29] <jl> hi
[15:30] <Gentoolman> Hi
[15:31] <jl> i installed ubuntu gnome 15.10 and if i loggin and type the correct password gnome shell not open
[15:31] <jl> i create other user
[15:31] <mcphail> ioria: btw, that lxinput package fixed my mouse problems yesterday. Thanks for the suggestion!
[15:31] <g105b> I want to distribute my own version of Ubuntu within my business, and have it on Github so others can improve it. Mainly just package alterations and slight configuration tweaks here and there. One thing I really want to know is how to handle when new versions of Ubuntu come out... Any points of advice will be appreciated.
[15:31] <jl> and this user open correctly gnome shell
[15:31] <ioria> mcphail, glad to hear  that... cheers
[15:32] <Gentoolman> Contribute distroa like debian, arch, gentoo, not one more ubuntu
[15:33] <iamrohit7> how can i make ubuntu less power hungry?
[15:33] <Gentoolman> g105b: first install gentoo or arch and get deeper to linux. Than it wipp be easy
[15:33] <g105b> Gentoolman: I thought IRC was better than this these days.
[15:34] <Gentoolman> It better always
[15:34] <iamrohit7> g105b: what was the question?
[15:34] <g105b> iamrohit7: I am looking for some advice on modifying Ubuntu's default packages and configuration for distribution within my business.
[15:35] <iamrohit7> Gentoolman: you can't suggest someone to use Gentoo on a ubuntu support even if your name is Gentoolman.
[15:35] <g105b> iamrohit7: main question is how to use Github to allow others to modify a tweak, and how to automatically handle new releases of official Ubuntu
[15:35] <cfhowlett> !uck | g105b
[15:35] <g105b> cfhowlett: interesting, thanks
[15:36] <iamrohit7> g105b: did you see this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[15:36] <cfhowlett> g105b, happy2help!
[15:36] <c0fe> anyone know where i can download version 13.10 netinstall?
[15:36] <cfhowlett> c0fe, bad idea.
[15:37] <k1l> c0fe: its dead a long time. why do you want that exact version?
[15:37] <c0fe> k1l: required for plex home theater, which isn't a problem since it won't have an internet connection
[15:38] <iamrohit7> how can i make my ubuntu install less resource hungry?
[15:38] <k1l> c0fe: that should work with recent ubuntu version, right?
[15:38] <c0fe> k1l: tried, has multiple packages that won't install so i have to use that version
[15:38] <g105b> cfhowlett: can I configure a customised ubuntu with uck, then put the config in a git repo or something like that?
[15:38] <k1l> iamrohit7: use desktop, processes, apps that use less resources. in most times that means using less eyecandy and blingbling
[15:39] <k1l> c0fe: i doubt that
[15:39] <cfhowlett> g105b, as I understand the process, yes
[15:39] <c0fe> k1l: aside from calling me a liar can you give me a link where to download this?
[15:39] <k1l> c0fe: no, since its not supported anymore.
[15:39] <k1l> c0fe: there might be some old archives, but none by ubuntu.
[15:40] <k1l> c0fe: i suggest you try a 12.04 or a 14.04 LTS install and work out what exact issues are there
[15:40] <c0fe> k1l: i already told you, you called me a liar
[15:41] <ioria> c0fe, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[15:41] <Kteckca> Hello
[15:42] <ioria> c0fe, maybe  not...
[15:42] <c0fe> ioria: nope doesn't work
[15:42] <ioria> c0fe, yep
[15:44] <c0fe> ioria: i found it
[15:44] <ioria> c0fe, good... you know is  EOF, right ?
[15:45] <c0fe> k1l: this may be hard to believe for you, but calling people liars isn't support or helpful
[15:45] <k1l> c0fe: stop it!
[15:45] <c0fe> ioria: i am aware but plex tv is problematic with any other recent versions
[15:45] <k1l> c0fe: you are just making a drama since you cant stand that your idea is a bad idea in first place.
[15:46] <k1l> so either you show some detailed errors you get on a supported ubuntu release and we can try to solve that or you can leave here and making a drama
[15:46] <auronandace> c0fe: could you outline the issues you are experiencing trying to install on a recent version?
[15:48] <c0fe> k1l: you should crawl out of your basement and interact with people more. you will learn how that calling people names, liars, etc isn't really good. one additional thing is that you think i would go through the trouble of hunting down an older version of ubuntu rather download the most recent version without trying the newest version first then you really need to learn how to think
[15:49] <cfhowlett> NO ONE EVER called you a liar c0fe!
[15:49] <c0fe> auronandace: various packages just wouldn't install, hold on i will post a list of them
[15:50] <c0fe> cfhowlett: k1l did
[15:50] <c0fe> auronandace: http://dpaste.com/029PYKA
[15:50] <k1l> c0fe: last time now. stop that ASAP
[15:51] <c0fe> k1l: apologize
[15:51] <auronandace> c0fe: can you please paste the whole output, the commands you are using too?
[15:52] <c0fe> auronandace: it was just apt-get install plex
[15:52] <auronandace> c0fe: and that was on 14.04?
[15:53] <c0fe> auronandace: yes
[15:53] <auronandace> c0fe: i take this is a PPA then?
[15:54] <auronandace> !info plex trusty
[15:54] <c0fe> auronandace: it is completely outside of ubuntu official releases
[15:54] <johnny_linux> the site only had a dl for 10.04
[15:54] <auronandace> c0fe: in that case you'll need to ask the developers
[15:55] <c0fe> auronandace: https://forums.plex.tv/discussion/87253/plex-home-theater-linux-builds
[15:56] <k1l> For Ubuntu we use launchpad to distribute Plex Home Theater. https://launchpad.net/~plexapp/+archive/plexht
[15:59] <linuxpjohnston> can i do a command line install of ubuntu 15.10 from live cd, reason I ask my Nvidia GTX 750ti will not load live cd properly into GNOME
[16:00] <k1l> but since he left after he recognized to be using the debian repo which says "(do not use with Ubuntu !)" at the top.
[16:00] <A1F4> any one using ubuntu 15.10 ?
[16:00] <pirate> A1F4: Why not ask your next question (your real question) and find out? :)
[16:00] <k1l> linuxpjohnston: the mini install should give you a non-3d installer
[16:01] <Dumle29>  Hey guys. I'm having some issues with my Ubuntu installation. It boots terribly slowly, even though it's installed on a Crucial 100 128gb SSD
[16:01] <Dumle29> I filmed it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUXLZ4EQ4kU
[16:01] <newtounx> hi, ive been trying to get my wifi up and running the last couple of hours. and i cant seem to fix it. i can scan for the network but as soon as i call my wpa_supplicant my vlan0 device is removed and i need to set it up again with "ifconfig wlan0 up" tried a couple of tutorials but i cant really find the underlying issue
[16:03] <k1l> Dumle29: seems like systemd is waiting for something on startup. but what do the logs like dmesg and or syslog tell?
[16:04] <Dumle29> Hmm let me check
[16:04] <TJ-> Dumle29: You can ignore the "ACPI PCC probe failed" - that's a stray message that developer left in that has since been removed
[16:04] <TJ-> Dumle29: "starting version 219" is simply reporting the systemd init daemon version as it starts, so again an informational message
[16:04] <Dumle29> Awh, ffs.. I'lll be back in 30 mins to an hour. forgot that my desktop is still not hooked up after LAN. I just connected my latop to my normal desktop screen
[16:05] <linuxpjohnston> k1l: tried that as well, but it fails to connect to network due to realtek chip i have, got 15.10 running out of the box on my laptop, guess I will have to find an ubuntu compat nic card and turn off on-board chip for now
[16:05] <Dumle29> TJ-: I might have a pastebin of dmseg and syslog though, so lemme look for those
[16:05] <ge0rJey> i'm not getting even 1 hour of battery on my lenovo laptop
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> ge0rJey  http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html
[16:06] <Dumle29> Yea. I can't find those pastes. I'll get the vacume out, and get the desktop ready again
[16:06] <TJ-> Dumle29: Reboot; hold down shift to get the GRUB boot manager menu; higlight "Ubuntu", press 'E' to edit the entry. Navigate to the line beginning "linux ...". Remove "quiet splash", replace with "debug systemd.unit=multiuser.target". Press Ctrl+X to boot with th emodified kernel command line. This will boot to a non-GUI multiuser session
[16:06] <ge0rJey> Dumle29, i've installed tlp and its running
[16:07] <ge0rJey> but it has no effect
[16:07] <ge0rJey> i've even disabled my graphics card,
[16:07] <ge0rJey> in bios
[16:07] <metaphysician> Does amd64 installation need i386 architecture repositories? Can I dpkg --remove-architecture i386?
[16:07] <ge0rJey> turned off bluetooth
[16:07] <TJ-> Dumle29: It will allow you to see all the boot-time messages that are usually hidden, too
[16:07] <Dumle29> TJ-: Good to know before booting :)
[16:07] <ge0rJey> brightness at around 300
[16:08] <Dumle29> TJ-: Another piece of info, it takes an age to shit down as well. Just has the _ marker
[16:08] <TJ-> Dumle29: :D nice typo
[16:09] <Dumle29> xD
[16:09] <Dumle29> god dammit
[16:09] <TJ-> Dumle29: It could be an ACPI issue; seeing those dmesg and syslog might help me too
[16:09] <MonkeyDust> Dumle29  mind your language
[16:09] <Dumle29> MonkeyDust: Sorry :)
[16:09] <TJ-> Dumle29: I'll damn it for you, you don't need a God :D
[16:10] <Dumle29> TJ-: I swear. I'm not constipated
[16:10] <Dumle29> Anywways. Getting those logs asap :)
[16:10] <TJ-> Dumle29: did you say the delay happened whilst the network cable wasn't connected?
[16:11] <Dumle29> nah, every boot
[16:12] <TJ-> Dumle29: I'm just musing on systemd unit tasks that can cause long delays
[16:16] <sha9419> pls help.. I tried installing restricted codec packages offline, but since it didnt work i deleted it. Now while trying to download the original codecs from software centre, it says " package dependencies cannot be resolved".
[16:24] <Lurchy> hey everyone...got a hardware firewall question for everyone
[16:25] <Dumle29> Fire away :)
[16:25] <bekks> Lurchy: So underline the "ubuntu" in your question :)
[16:25] <Lurchy> I have a netgear FVS336 firewall currently...and when I do a speedtest I can only get upads of 40Mb download speeds
[16:25] <Dumle29> but ##networks is probably a better bet
[16:25] <Dumle29> sorry, ##networking
[16:25] <Lurchy> when I connet directly...I can top out at 90Mb
[16:25] <Lurchy> well....I am running my ubuntu box behind this firewall
[16:26] <Lurchy> behind a POE router
[16:26] <bekks> Lurchy: And your non-ubuntu device is causing issues. :)
[16:26] <qknight> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/trusty/release/ <- how could i install ppc64 big endian ubuntu if i can't boot BUT i have a running linux+kernel+uboot already?
[16:26] <TJ-> Lurchy: is your PC connected to the gateway-router using Wifi ?
[16:26] <Lurchy> negative
[16:26] <Lurchy> Cat6 cable
[16:27] <Lurchy> netgear POE router is not the issue....
[16:27] <TJ-> Lurchy: sounds like the FVS336  cannot handle the WAN wire-speed when its saturated. Does it get better if the firewall is disabled (so there's no packet filtering needing to be done) ?
[16:28] <Lurchy> what infomation should I be looking for to see what firewall I need to purchase to take advantage of faster bandwidth I get from my ISP?  wan to lan thruput values?
[16:28] <Lurchy> hmmm
[16:28] <Lurchy> I see....
[16:28] <Lurchy> makes sense...could be bottleneck when packet inspection is happening
[16:29] <tw__> Hello
[16:29] <Lurchy> TJ....when I take out firewall.....speed doubles up to 90+MB
[16:30] <Lurchy> so I have narrowed issue to firewall
[16:30] <TJ-> Lurchy: yeah, for low end devices that isn't unusual
[16:30] <tw__> hi
[16:30] <tw__> deez nuts
[16:31] <Lurchy> seems that I should invest in better firewall....but I am too stupid to understand the info I need to look for shop for appropriate firewall
[16:31] <Lurchy> Wan to Lan thruput?
[16:31] <tw__> I can help you.
[16:33] <ocurieles> Hi Guys
[16:33] <Lurchy> I see a SRX5308 for like 130 bucks....which is in my budget...has ipsec and tunneling and the like.....
[16:33] <amitd26> hi
[16:33] <Lurchy> but cant seem to figure out if it will give me thruput speed I need
[16:33] <ocurieles> i'm testing the new Ubuntu 15.10, look greats
[16:33] <TJ-> Lurchy: ask the folks in ##networking, they are the experts
[16:34] <Dumle29> Lurchy: DPI is really resource intensive
[16:34] <Lurchy> ok
[16:34] <Lurchy> yeah...normally I wont need it....my network is gigabit...so behind the firewall is not the issue
[16:34] <Dumle29> Lurchy: They are also very perfectionistic :P
[16:34] <Lurchy> lol
[16:35] <Lurchy> I am in the process of installing asiago cameras and geting zoneminder system up and running...along with other stuff on my ubuntu box....I need the firewall
[16:36] <Lurchy> to keep all the curious peeps outta the network  :-P
[16:36] <Lurchy> sigh.....along with automation.....so many thing to consider
[16:36] <Dumle29> Well ##networking would be a good bet :)
[16:37] <Lurchy> ok...always liek to ask here first to make sure no issues would arise with my ubuntu box
[16:37] <TJ-> Dumle29: did I miss your dmesg/syslog ?
[16:38] <ocurieles> i have installed Skype but don't put the icon
[16:38] <Dumle29> nah. still setting up the desktop
[16:39] <Dumle29> gotta get this monitor back on the wall
[16:39] <rash_> Anyone tried installing ubuntu on a windows tablet?
[16:39] <rash_> And how did it turn out?
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> rash_: ubuntu desktop can be installed on windows based tablets yes
[16:40] <SchrodingersScat> rash_: I hear it can happen on some surface pros.
[16:40] <k1l> rash_: depends on the exact model
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> rash_: some tablets brand might requier some finetuning/kernel choose
[16:40] <rash_> But would be touch screen function
[16:41] <k1l> rash_: depends on the exact make and model. but ubuntu can handle touchscreens if there are drivers available.
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> rash_: maybe you can share to channel wich tablets you wanna try?
[16:43] <rash_> Dell Venue 8 pro
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> rash_: think thats possible, but there might be some issues on it afterwards to solve
[16:46] <rash_> Okay. I guess I'll just wait for ubuntu touch to be released
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> rash_: ubuntu touch wont run on it mate
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> rash_: for your model your be chained to ubuntu desktop
[16:49] <k1l> rash_: the tablet you got is a 32bit uefi. that needs some manual work to let linux run anyway: Dell Venue 8 pro
[16:50] <k1l> rash_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support
[16:52] <Guest37240> ciao
[16:54] <StephenS> Anyone used "overwrite existing data with zeroes" on a 1TB disk? If yes, how long could it take? I knew it can take a while, but any ETA?
[16:55] <k1l> StephenS: it takes a lot of time. just do something other in that meantime
[16:55] <StephenS> k1l, I know it takes a lot of time, but any ETA?
[16:55] <OerHeks> StephenS, it can be a hour or so. depends on a lot of things
[16:55] <StephenS> like 24 hours, or 2 hours?
[16:55] <StephenS> its connected via USB 3.0 and disk is SATA
[16:56] <StephenS> OerHeks, ok, cool.
[16:56] <OerHeks> oh, through usb, a lot longer.
[16:56] <EriC^^> StephenS: sudo pkill -USR1 ^dd
[16:56] <StephenS> EriC^^, don't joke like that :)
[16:56] <EriC^^> should tell you the progress
[16:56] <ioria> not ajoke  ... it
[16:56] <EriC^^> no joke :)
[16:57] <StephenS> OerHeks, how longer?
[16:58] <hyponic> i am using stronswan as a vpn client but i am expecting to have a tun interface i can route traffic through it. or am i totally mistaken?
[16:58] <ioria> dd hasn't a progressive bar  , so it  's a workaround
[16:58] <OerHeks> !info pv
[16:59] <OerHeks> StephenS, unpredictable, usb is a lot slower than directly on the sata interface
[17:00] <StephenS> I'm aware of that, thats why I'm asking for ETA, but I guess whatever the ETA is, I had to wait, a lot.
[17:00] <k1l> StephenS: we just cant predict that.
[17:00] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: Hello, i found one source that said NetworkManager had a trouble with the wgt624 router, so i am trying to switch to Wicd
[17:01] <k1l> StephenS: and in the end it will not make it faster :)
[17:01] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: Network Manager doesn't get involved in the wifi side; it leaves that to wpa_supplicant
[17:02] <StephenS> true
[17:02] <EriC^^> StephenS: seriously, sudo pkill -USR1 ^dd will show you the progress
[17:02] <sause> hello
[17:03] <TJ-> StephenS: if you are using 'dd' to write to the device, then EriC^^ is giving you a command - that you should issue from a 2nd shell - that will cause the 'dd' process to write its progress to screen.
[17:03] <StephenS> I'm not sure what disks utility is using, since I'm using GUI atm.
[17:03] <StephenS> but I'm filling it with zeros and then encrypting the device.
[17:04] <sause> hi
[17:04] <sause> i downloaded quake 3 arena from the software center. it says i need my original pak0.pk3... which i have. but i can not find the directory where quake 3 arena was installed. can anyone help with this?
[17:04] <TJ-> StephenS: That's a bit futile. If its going to be encrypted just encrypt it!
[17:04] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: and of course you're right, it didnt work.  but i have an interesting finding
[17:04] <StephenS> well there's data which is unencrypted, and I need to make sure it's gone for good ;)
[17:05] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: if i purposely enter the incorrect password, it rejects me immediately.  if i then enter the correct password, it tries for a long time then times out
[17:05] <TJ-> StephenS: If you're going to use full disk encrpytion then you should randomise the device first, so writing all zeros is pointless
[17:05] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: right, and we know that's due to the ASSOC_REJECT
[17:06] <StephenS> TJ-, randomise the device?
[17:06] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: actually i take it back.  it was because i provided a wpa key of length 3 which is not possible.  now that i entered a longer dummy password, it takes just as long to fail to connect....
[17:06] <EriC^^> StephenS: sudo dd if=/dev/urandom ...
[17:06] <TJ-> StephenS: Yes. Standard practice is to fill the entire device with random data, so that the encrypted blocks cannot be identified. If everything is zeroed first then the encrypted blocks are easy to identify, and side-channel attacks are possible
[17:06] <TJ-> EriC^^: NO!!!! that'd take a day or more!!
[17:07] <OerHeks> sause, you need the original game, we cannot help you with that
[17:07] <RedViper> hi
[17:07]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[17:07] <EriC^^> TJ-: ok :P
[17:07] <motaka2> tj
[17:07] <motaka2> TJ-: do you remeber my problem ?
[17:08] <alberto_> http://orsamaggiore.radiotheworld.eu/#85
[17:09] <DJones> alberto_: Do you have an Ubuntu support issue? Or do you just plan on spamming offtopic links
[17:10] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: do you think it would help to packet sniff the authentication?  or is there not much information to be gained from that
[17:10] <k1l> !warez | alberto_
[17:10] <motaka2> Hello  was using ubuntu 12.04, several days ago it ended to a black page several times and I had to restart it several times so it comes up. now it doesn't come up like that anymore. After some tries I decided to choose windows in from OS selection page and it gave me ntldr is missing, what should I do?
[17:10] <motaka2> for a long time when booting up it said you have a problem with /tmp but I didnt care and I pressed the I to ignore it and see my desktop, a few days ago I had to restart it 2 or 3 times to see my desktop
[17:10] <sause> i downloaded quake 3 arena from the software center. it says i need my original pak0.pk3... which i have. but i can not find the directory where quake 3 arena was installed. can anyone help with this?
[17:10] <OerHeks> sause, again; you need the original game, we cannot help you with that
[17:11] <StephenS> TJ-, so randomise the disk, with and how?
[17:11] <sause> 0erHeks: i have the original game... i was told i needed my pak0.pk3 off of my q3a cd...
[17:11] <OerHeks> sause, oh you do have the disc .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/QuakeIIIArena
[17:11] <TJ-> StephenS: I'm just putting an example together for you; give me a minute
[17:12] <cousteau> TeamViewer seems to have decided it won't connect anymore...  are there any alternatives that will let me connect to a PC that is behind a router?
[17:12] <OerHeks> c
[17:12] <OerHeks> sause, depend where you installed it, in your /home/  folder i guess
[17:13] <cousteau> (VNC won't work out of the box, because my PC at work is behind a router that blocks the ports, even if it has its own IP)
[17:13] <Dumle29> okay, ready to boot TJ-. What would I hold booting?
[17:15] <motaka2> no help ?
[17:17] <Necrioss> motaka2: if you want to reinstall OS, reformat your disk and start from the beginning
[17:17] <Dumle29> TJ-: Found your previous message. The edited grub launch options boots nearly instant
[17:17] <daftykins> Necrioss: that is not sane advice
[17:18] <motaka2> Necrioss: I prefer upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04
[17:18] <daftykins> motaka2: so this happens every boot? what does "df -h" look like?
[17:18] <motaka2> daftykins: yes now it happens on all boots. what is df-h ?
[17:19] <Necrioss> (my way to avoid folder issues when switching from one OS to the other D: )
[17:19] <StephenS> TJ-, so?
[17:19] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: daftykins: if i try to connect to the *working* wireless network manually using wpa_supplicant, i cannot.  does that point to anything funky?  or just me probably messing up
[17:19] <OerHeks> man df - displays the amount of disk space available
[17:20] <daftykins> Ownasaurus2: i've never paid much attention to the use of wpa_supplicant by hand, too archaic :)
[17:20] <daftykins> motaka2: run it. it is safe.
[17:20] <Ownasaurus2> no problem, i'm trying to do it by hand for diagnostics and was surprised i could not get it to work XD
[17:21] <motaka2> daftykins: Where should I run it ?
[17:21] <daftykins> motaka2: the only place it'll work, the terminal
[17:21] <TJ-> StephenS: Here's the example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12949004/
[17:21] <motaka2> but I dont have any terminal
[17:21] <TJ-> Dumle29: that's interesting.
[17:22] <Dumle29> TJ-: Btw, I should mention that this is a Desktop, so ACPI is probably not relevant (If I'm correct in assuming that ACPI is stuff like media keys on laptops)
[17:22] <daftykins> motaka2: what are you talking about? are you saying you can't use this system right now?
[17:22] <Dumle29> TJ-: It might be a problem with multiple window managers now that I think about it.
[17:22] <TJ-> Dumle29: ACPI is fundamental to everything Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
[17:22] <Dumle29> h
[17:22] <StephenS> well TJ- if I use cryptsetup I should be safe with encrypted drive, as doing /dev/random on a drive is a bit of paranoia
[17:22] <Dumle29> ah
[17:22] <daftykins> motaka2: try ctrl+alt+F1 to get to a TTY
[17:22] <motaka2> daftykins: Yes the system doesnt boot. I am using another ssystem  to chat with you
[17:23] <Dumle29> Thinking now, It might be because I tried to install X Ubuntu and try that out, by installing the xubuntu-desktop package. This also installed lightDM
[17:23] <motaka2> what is tty ?
[17:23] <TJ-> Dumle29: try starting the GUI with "sudo systemctl start lightdm"
[17:23] <daftykins> motaka2: how far does it get?
[17:24] <Dumle29> TJ-: Just getting you the dmesg and syslog :)
[17:24] <lrs> I cant enable bluetooth on my Thinkpad T530
[17:24] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: no need for packet sniffing, but capturing the wpa_supplicant log of a client that can connect to the AP and comparing against the log from the failing client could be useful
[17:24] <motaka2> daftykins: It shows the black page with the list of installed OSs and when I select ubuntu 12.04 and press enter it just goes to a black page with a blinking cursor
[17:24] <lrs> lsmod gives me something
[17:24] <giumbai> hi! I need help with expanding a lvm partition, more info here: http://codepen.io/anon/pen/jbzBJW
[17:25] <lrs> But... Cant enable it
[17:25] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: OK, i would have to borrow a laptop from a family member.  but what's driving me nuts right now is that i can't connect to the -den network even with wpa_supplicant.  would you have time to help make sure im not doing anything stupid?
[17:26] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: meaning - the network that *works* i can't connect to manually (i must be doing something wrong?)
[17:26] <TJ-> StephenS: if you're using full disk encryption, that protects against offline attacks. In that case, in some cases a lot can be deduced from the layout of the encrypted blocks. That's why randomising the disk surface is recommended
[17:26] <StephenS> TJ-, define full disk encryption?
[17:26] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: It's a long time since I used wpa_supplicant manually; I seem to recall creating a config file for it
[17:27] <daftykins> motaka2: go to 'advanced' and pick a recovery option next to the newest kernel version instead
[17:27] <TJ-> StephenS: The entire block device encrypted to protect it when there is no power
[17:27] <StephenS> I have one volume and 2 partitions, one of 1TB is encrypting, and second have 2.6MB of free space
[17:27] <daftykins> motaka2: or alternatively, prepare a USB flash drive with an ubuntu ISO to boot a live session to fix your install from
[17:27] <daftykins> motaka2: did you say you are using 12.04.5 on there?
[17:27] <StephenS> TJ-, so, I'm not encrypting the whole volume?
[17:28] <Dumle29> TJ: dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12949118/ syslog: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12949203/
[17:28] <motaka2> daftykins: I am using 12.04 I bought a 14.04 today. but none of it options work
[17:28] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: yes i have done such and am executing it with "sudo wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -Dwext -ctest2.conf", where test2.conf has been triple check confirmed that it has the correct SSID and PSK
[17:28] <chen_> list
[17:28] <TJ-> StephenS: when a block device (be it an entire physical disk, a partition, or an LVM) doesn't have its entire content randomised there are several opportunities for deductions about the content of the file-system, because the encrypted blocks can be identified
[17:29] <Dumle29> Oh wow. syslog is 11,4MB
[17:29] <TJ-> Dumle29: "tail -n 1000 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit "
[17:29] <Dumle29> gotcha
[17:29] <StephenS> TJ-, so is my encrypting safe enough, or not?
[17:29] <SlaveOfJesus> Hi is there a way to install Ubuntu like Archlinux? Like build your own linux?
[17:30] <Dumle29> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12949297/
[17:30] <k1l> SlaveOfJesus: mini install and install the packages you like
[17:30] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: update: the -den network it works perfectly with my plaintext psk but not with the hash that was automatically generated....?
[17:30] <TJ-> StephenS: It depends on what attacks you are trying to guard against. For simple data-protection should the device be stolen, you would be fine assuming the key is secure
[17:30] <SlaveOfJesus> k1l: ok thanks
[17:30] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: You mean in the test2.conf file?
[17:31] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: yeah
[17:31] <k1l> Dumle29: are acpi issues known for that mainboard?
[17:31] <Dumle29> k1l: No idea. What would I google?
[17:31] <StephenS> TJ-, its very secure, but what are the other options?
[17:31] <Dumle29> It's an asus sabertooth P67
[17:31] <k1l> make and model
[17:31] <StephenS> Are you thinking about, if device is stolen and sold to cryptographers? :O
[17:32] <daftykins> motaka2: how do you mean 'bought' 14.04 ?
[17:32] <motaka2> daftykins: I dont know why none of the options of the live cd are not working
[17:32] <Dumle29> k1l: Doesn't seem so no
[17:32] <motaka2> daftykins: I went to a store and asked them to write me a 14.04 and they did that
[17:32] <daftykins> ah ok
[17:33] <daftykins> motaka2: it could be that your graphics card requires the use of 'nomodeset' to boot, have you tried that option? when you boot, you should get the little logo, press a key and then pick a language - then press F6 to enable 'nomodeset'
[17:33] <TJ-> StephenS: No, if someone wanted to analyse your system in-place without you realising, by having multiple opportunities to observe which blocks change. A randomised surface is harder to work with since it requires having to create a hash of every block's contents to identify which change. If the disk surface is zeroed, identifying which blocks change is much mich faster and easier
[17:34] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: daftykins: AH HA!  I found a difference between the network that works and the network that doesnt.  when i try to connect to "steinberg" but not "steinberg-den", i see the line "ioctl[SIOCSIWFREQ]: Operation not supported".   i will look into this....
[17:34] <TJ-> Dumle29: Looks like we just missed the important messages there. Try "tail -n 2000 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit"
[17:34] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: frequency change?
[17:34] <StephenS> There is no such thing, this is external drive which will be used only for my backups, from variety of disks I own.
[17:34] <motaka2> daftykins: wait pls
[17:35] <motaka2> daftykins: ok now nomodeset has cross by it's side. what should I do next ?
[17:35] <Dumle29> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12949506/
[17:35] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: is one AP using 20MHz channels and the other using 40MHz channels?
[17:35] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: one is channel 1 and one is channel 6.  im not sure how to check the freqs
[17:37] <daftykins> motaka2: select 'try ubuntu'
[17:37] <gartral> ok all... I'm kinda annoyed, I just got throught the third time trying to install 15.10 into a vm and *EVERY TIME* x fails to start... I realize it's only just been released but... come on...
[17:38] <TJ-> Dumle29: is the PC trying to mount a NAS device on the network?
[17:38] <motaka2> I selected that and it eneded to that dark page with blinking cursor
[17:38] <Dumle29> TJ-: Oh bloody hell
[17:38] <Dumle29> TJ-: Yes. My parrents from before i moved out
[17:38] <TJ-> Dumle29: DUH moment much?
[17:38] <motaka2> daftykins: I selected that and it eneded to that dark page with blinking cursor
[17:38] <daftykins> gartral: bringing that attitude here like it's our fault is not going to win you any support, so first off try sharing some details such as which virt tech you're using and whether the md5 hash of your downloaded ISO was good.
[17:38] <TJ-> Dumle29: disable that and I bet you're fixed
[17:38] <StephenS> TJ-, so I'm good?
[17:38] <k-stz> does skylake work on ubuntu 14.04 lts? I read kernel 4.3 is where its at tho
[17:39] <daftykins> motaka2: is it booting from a DVD or a flash drive?
[17:39] <k1l> Dumle29: TJ- oh yes. systemd is very very very picky with fstab entries.
[17:39] <TJ-> StephenS: I've explained the reasoning for the various approaches; I'll let you make the call on what is best for you :)
[17:39] <motaka2> daftykins: From a DVD
[17:39] <Dumle29> let's try it out
[17:39] <daftykins> motaka2: ok it may need some loading time, watch the DVD drive light if you have one
[17:39] <StephenS> TJ-, but generally looking, this is pretty safe, right?
[17:39] <daftykins> k-stz: in time the wily (15.10) hardware enablement stack should be available for 14.04 which will bring the 4.2 kernel
[17:39] <TJ-> k1l: this would stall Upstart too, unless the mount is marked as "_netdev"
[17:39] <StephenS> I mean aside from they will know what blocks are encrypted
[17:40] <StephenS> even if they know the blocks, they still need to decrypt them ;)
[17:40] <Dumle29> How would I configure grub to just start ubuntu instantly btw?
[17:40] <TJ-> StephenS: Yes. My original point was that zeroing was pointless if it is being encrypted after
[17:40] <Dumle29> but have it so that only if I hold down shift I get the grub menu
[17:40] <lrs> Noone?
[17:40] <lrs> I have a Thinkpad T530 with bluetooth
[17:40] <lrs> Cant enable it anywhere
[17:40] <k-stz> daftykins: does this hardware enabler have any drawbacks (should I rather go for the 15.10)?
[17:40] <StephenS> well yeah, but even with random, they can still find out what blocks are encrypted, a bit harder but its possible, and even when they find crypted blocks, they need to decrypt them.
[17:40] <lrs> It cant find it, but it is enabled and ther
[17:40] <TJ-> StephenS: There are some very clever sophisticated attacks that can determine your private key 1 bit at a time, if there's the least little slip up.
[17:40] <StephenS> So this is a bit of extra security thing.
[17:40] <Dumle29> lrs: Try lsusb
[17:40] <Dumle29> lrs: And lspci
[17:41] <TJ-> StephenS: yeah, as I said, best-practice and recommended :)
[17:41] <motaka2> daftykins: It is continuesly on
[17:41] <daftykins> k-stz: depends what your usage is, if it's desktop - you might want newer packages overall, so 15.10 might be better - you'll just have to deal with the inevitable upgrade path
[17:41] <k1l> lrs: "rfkill list" in a pastebin
[17:41] <motaka2> daftykins: How much should I wait ?
[17:41] <daftykins> motaka2: yep just taking time to load up then, give it a while and it should have the full desktop eventually
[17:41] <gartral> daftykins: you're right, i'm just frustrated... I'm using virtualbox 5.0.2 and iso checksum is ece816e12f97018fa3d4974b5fd27337 which I don't know is if it's right or not because no checksum appears anywhere on the download site.
[17:41] <Dumle29> TJ-: ... Thanks
[17:41] <Dumle29> Close to instant boot
[17:42] <StephenS> TJ-, cool, Ill just stick with 0-writes ;)
[17:42] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: confirmed they are both in the 2400 MHz  range
[17:42] <StephenS> I'm not that paranoid.
[17:42] <daftykins> !md5
[17:42] <StephenS> and if thief finds the device and plug it in, he'll be unable to do anything and will say its broken :)
[17:42] <Dumle29> lrs: What do those two commands give you? Anything that looks like your bluetooth radio?
[17:42] <lrs> k1l,  Dumle29 http://paste.ubuntu.com/12949810/
[17:42] <luca__> hi
[17:43] <daftykins> gartral: see the first link from ubottu above please
[17:43] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: Right, we knew that. I'm talking about the bandwidth used by the channels. Original 802.11g uses 20MHz bandwidth; to get greater throughput 802.11n introduced 40MHz channels; It's one possible different that could cause issues, although I doubt it in this case
[17:44] <gartral> daftykins: i did, why do i have to click through 3 more links to get to the actual MD5 checksum? why isn't it just under the download link? anyway, yes, the md5sum is a match :/
[17:44] <k-stz> daftykins: thanks
[17:44] <luca__> how can i donwload files ?
[17:44] <daftykins> gartral: the information is available, that's all i care about.
[17:45] <luca__> where?
[17:45] <daftykins> luca__: what files?
[17:45] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: ah, i don't *think* either router supports n....  certainly the one that isn't working doesnt support n,
[17:45] <k1l> luca__: no warez here
[17:45] <lrs> Dumle29, Ethernet controller? Newtork controller? Not sure
[17:45] <luca__> is this app like Mirc ?
[17:45] <TJ-> Dumle29: GRUB should boot the default entry unless the system didn't do a clean shutdown, or if you've configured it not to in /etc/default/grub
[17:45] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: and apparently the FREQ operation error still happens with the network thta works sometimes,,, so false error.
[17:45] <lrs> Dumle29, When I Look in the specs, it doesnt say the producer. Only "Bluetooth 4.0"
[17:45] <k1l> lrs: you pressed the fn key combo and are sure no hardware switch is set to off?
[17:45] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: From what I recall of the "iwlist wlan0 scan" output I think they're only using 802.11g
[17:46] <lrs> k1l, Yeah, the fn key control wireless and htat I have
[17:46] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: i believe this is correct
[17:46] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: Yes, that makes sense. Some devices don't support all the facilities that wpa_supplicant can take advantage of
[17:47] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: so in summary, you can now manually connect to -den with a non-hashed passphrase, but still not to steinberg ?
[17:48] <lrs> k1l, *The fn control also controls the wireless and that works so
[17:49] <Dumle29> TJ-: So GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 ?
[17:50] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: i just connected to -den with a hashed passphrase for the first time.  i naively assumed the hash was the same irrespective of the SSID.  that assumption was causing me trouble.  i am good to connect on the command line to -den now.
[17:50] <TJ-> Dumle29: Or GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT
[17:50] <lrs> k1l, Dumle29 Any ideas?
[17:50] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: OK, that's good progress.  Now, about 'steinberg' how many characters are in the passphrase?
[17:51] <Ownasaurus2> 8 alphanumeric.  in fact, it is the same as steinberg-den
[17:51] <TJ-> lrs: can you "dmesg | pastebinit" ?
[17:51] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: silly but try this. Drop the last character and try it.
[17:52] <lrs> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12950269/
[17:52] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: I once saw a stupid broken device that had a 'thing' about the passphrase. You'd set 8 characters in the AP GUI, but it would only test 7 characters when authenticating!
[17:52] <Dumle29> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/ZXMPF2Q1
[17:52] <lrs> Bluetooth stuff is at 900
[17:52] <lrs> Didnt found that stuff bbefore
[17:53] <Dumle29> So holding escape while booting, with GRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden I'll get to the menu?
[17:53] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: OK, i will try 7 characters of the unencryptid passphrase
[17:53] <TJ-> Dumle29: holding Shift usually
[17:53] <Dumle29> TJ-: I was thinking, due to what it said in that help file
[17:54] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: did not work.  i'm wondering is it possible the AP got locally blacklisted due to so many previous failures?
[17:54] <Twirl> is there a way to put "alt-tab" from compiz always in the same screen?
[17:54] <TJ-> Dumle29: The TIMEOUT_STYLE controls whether you see the delay countdown
[17:54] <ioria> Dumle29, you put a  # in front  of  GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[17:54] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: OK. Was a long shot, but we're clutching at straws now!
[17:55] <lrs> brb food
[17:55] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: yeah.  nutty stuff
[17:55] <Dumle29> ioria: I want it to boot ubuntu, without waiting 15 seconds in grub, but I also want to be able to get into grub in case I want to boot windows
[17:55] <ioria> Dumle29, ohhh
[17:56] <Dumle29> These are the defaults from my installatiton
[17:56] <Dumle29> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12950410/
[17:56] <Dumle29> Would I uncomment line 7, and set line 9 to 0?
[17:57] <TJ-> Dumle29: usually the delay is 5 seconds I think
[17:57] <Dumle29> it's 10 here :/
[17:57] <Dumle29> odd
[17:58] <Necrioss> My Grub for Arch was 10 also, depends on the installer
[17:58] <Necrioss> I guess
[17:59] <wileee> Dumle29, Setting it to 0 will keep you from reaching grub  if needed, most likely, I use 3
[17:59] <Dumle29> wileee: So there's no way to skip grub instantly, unless a key is held down during boot?
[17:59] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: "Okay, here's the 802.11 meaning of reason 3: Deauthenticated because sending STA is leaving (or has left) IBSS or ESS"  does this mean anything to you?
[18:00] <wileee> Dumle29, holding a key down brings it up, esc if uefi shift if msdeos
[18:00] <wileee> msdod*
[18:00] <wileee> msdod, doh
[18:00] <wileee> msdos, heh stuck keys
[18:00] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: Yes. As I said yesterday, those are high-level reason codes, I went deeper to the actual status_code returned, and that is the ASSOC_REJECT which originates in the kernel driver, as a result of the AP sending a message. So, the AP is actively refusing to associate
[18:01] <Dumle29> wileee: Okay, so I can set it to 0, and be good
[18:01] <Dumle29> ?
[18:01] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: ok sorry
[18:01] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: OK, I am going to see if i can borrow a laptop, boot into live USB, and authenticate
[18:01] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: no need to be. We have to consider everything. One thing I wondered is, do you have a USB wifi device you could plug into the laptop ?
[18:02] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: good plan :) I'm starting to suspect the Broadcom driver!
[18:02] <wileee> Dumle29, I would not, that is a key point for recovery...etc, other than a live cd. if you're dualbooting you would want it as well, likely.
[18:02] <Dumle29> I've wondered this more than once. Are you people who help in here doing so voluntarilly or are you employed by cannonical? You rea really danm professional :)
[18:02] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: which reminds me!!! can you do "modinfo wl" and show me what it reports
[18:02] <TJ-> Dumle29: everyone is another user like you
[18:02] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: i do not own any usb wifi devices unfortunately
[18:02] <Dumle29> wileee: I rarely boot windows, but yea, 2 seconds is probably fine
[18:02] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: OK, go with the borrowed laptop :)
[18:03] <Dumle29> TJ-: Danm. Well kudos to you!
[18:03] <wileee> Dumle29, yeah 2 would be great most likely yo want to just be able to bring up grub with a key press if needed, so you can mess with that number.
[18:03] <Dumle29> If I want windows, I'll just be spamming down
[18:04] <motaka2> daftykins: It is still blinking
[18:04] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: modinfo wl --> paste.ubuntu.com/12950627
[18:04] <wileee> for the record windows is an OS like linux, most here use both in some manner
[18:04] <daftykins> motaka2: do you know how much RAM your system has?
[18:04] <Dumle29> Thanks for the help people! :)
[18:04] <motaka2> daftykins: I think two gigs
[18:04] <ubuntu-mate> me I probe in spanish_
[18:05] <ubuntu-mate> me I probe ubuntu/mate in spanish_
[18:05] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: You see all those 'parm' entries?
[18:06] <daftykins> !es | ubuntu-mate
[18:07] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: yes, what does that mean
[18:07] <daftykins> motaka2: mmm that should definitely be fine, to put this in perspective i had a system which took 40 minutes to load into the installer a bit ago
[18:07] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: they are module command-line parameters that can change its behaviour. I'm going to suggest you go through a process of disabling the wifi (radio kill switch enabled, unload the module from memory (modprobe -r wl), load it with a custom command-line e.g. ("modprobe wl passivemode=X" - where X is some valid value derived from docs or the source-code), re-enable wifi radio, and test.
[18:07] <motaka2> daftykins: So I should wait more?
[18:07] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: I wouldn't be surprised if some permuation of module parameter might help
[18:08] <daftykins> motaka2: yep, the light still going is a good sign
[18:08] <motaka2> daftykins: when I was trying to load ubuntu the same thing was hapenning
[18:08] <daftykins> nomodeset should have changed things though
[18:09] <daftykins> it could have loaded last time, but you just not seen anything
[18:09] <motaka2> daftykins: Does using ubuntu with live cd has anything to do with hard disk ?
[18:10] <daftykins> motaka2: well it may look for it on bootup, but it doesn't typically care what's there
[18:10] <Necrioss> Anyone knows how to provide compiler options for finding packages without using pkg-build (trying to install one dependence for lua) ?
[18:12] <motaka2> daftykins: previousely loading live  dvd was not taking so long
[18:12] <lrs> TJ-, k1l Dumle29 : Any ideas?
[18:12] <TJ-> lrs: sorry, I got sidetracked!
[18:12] <daftykins> motaka2: back with 12.04 you mean? it's possible the guys that burned this disc for you didn't check it thoroughly
[18:13] <gartral> daftykins: i think i figured out what's wrong...
[18:13] <me-1> hi...how can I download apps to later install on an Offline Ubuntu computer..?
[18:13] <daftykins> gartral: don't leave me in suspense :)
[18:14] <daftykins> me-1: grab the packages and their dependencies from packages.ubuntu.com
[18:14] <TJ-> lrs: what does "hcitool dev" report?
[18:14] <lrs> TJ-, Devices:
[18:14] <gartral> daftykins: lightdm never loads when you select "automatically log me in" from the installer.
[18:14] <lrs> Nothing basically
[18:14] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: do you know where i might find the docs for these parameters?  my initial searching is turning up empty
[18:15] <OerHeks> !offline | me-1
[18:15] <TJ-> lrs: "ls -altr /sys/class/bluetooth/" ?
[18:15] <me-1> daftykins, packages have too many depencies ..and how do i do that
[18:15] <lrs> total 0
[18:15] <lrs> drwxr-xr-x 58 root root 0 okt 24 17:46 ..
[18:15] <lrs> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 0 okt 25 19:15 .
[18:15] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: you installed the driver via DKMS package I think? If so, the source will be under /usr/src/wl-VERSION/.
[18:15] <daftykins> me-1: well why do you want to do this offline? what's the situation here? perhaps a better approach can be suggested
[18:16] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: i have a bcmwl* dir there i can look at
[18:16] <TJ-> lrs: Are you 100% sure there's a Bluetooth device in the PC? I've seen this before where users believed there was one but it turned out there wasn't, it was just an optional extra and not fitted.
[18:16] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: that'll be the one!
[18:16] <trinity_> how to get a canon pixma started
[18:16] <daftykins> 'started' = ?
[18:16] <daftykins> it's not a car :)
[18:17] <me-1> daftykins, I am preparing donated computers for a school . School does not have internet connection . I have already installed Lubuntu but dont know how to install some apps
[18:17] <lrs> TJ-, 100%
[18:17] <lrs> its in the specs when i bought it so
[18:17] <me-1> I have internet at home btw
[18:17] <linocisco> hi all
[18:18] <linocisco> how to make firefox as default browser now chrome is my default?
[18:18] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: do a search: "grep -rn module_param /usr/src/bcmwl*/*"
[18:18] <daftykins> me-1: bring one home, install the programs you want... copy the .deb's from /var/cache/apt/archives/ -> copy them onto a target system you set up, then install all those at once = done
[18:19] <bekks> linocisco: Enable the check for being the default browser in the settings of firefox.
[18:19] <lrs> TJ-, i *think* it's in the motherboard, i.e internal or something. But it says "Bluetooth 4.0 with antenna"
[18:19] <daftykins> me-1: alternatively, set up one machine - then clone the disk to every other system - (though i don't know the things you need to change other than system hostname when you do that with Linux, someone here might be able to advise)
[18:19] <AnTeNnA> what?
[18:19] <TJ-> lrs: what make/model is the PC?
[18:19] <AnTeNnA> what did i do?
[18:20] <linocisco> bekks, cool. I could not find menu bar before restart
[18:20] <lrs> TJ-, Lenovo Thinkpad T530
[18:20] <TJ-> lrs: DMI says LENOVO 2394CTO too
[18:20] <lrs> TJ-, Yup. Thats the model name or whateer
[18:20] <motaka2> daftykins: Maybe so what do you suggest me to do ?
[18:20] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: daftykins: well holy shit IT WORKS.  we fixed it
[18:20] <motaka2> daftykins: It is still blinking
[18:20] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: how?
[18:21] <me-1> daftykins, first idea is good . do I need to do some other steps after cpying..?
[18:21] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: daftykins: contrary to all documentation (unless i misread), i switched to brcmsmac driver, and now it can correctly associate with both wireless networks....
[18:21] <daftykins> me-1: put them in /var/cache/apt/archives as well then you can sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[18:21] <daftykins> Ownasaurus2: heh, weird
[18:21] <Ownasaurus2> just a driver switch.  after all that XD
[18:21] <daftykins> Ownasaurus2: might be handy for you to write that up on that page
[18:22] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: thank !%^$^# for that
[18:22] <motaka2> daftykins: Should I wait more??
[18:22] <daftykins> motaka2: i would
[18:22] <me-1> daftykins,  thank you very much for you help . Ireally appriciate that
[18:22] <daftykins> me-1: no problem
[18:22] <Ownasaurus2> after confirming stability, i'll report it. gonna use it for a bit XD
[18:22] <me-1> take care . bye
[18:23] <Ownasaurus2> should i apt-get purge wl now
[18:23] <Ownasaurus2> or something of that nature to solidify the change
[18:23] <motaka2> daftykins: none of thre other options worked either. like disck check etc. Would it be because the DVD is corrupt ?
[18:23] <acer> I need an equivalent to one of these softwares for ubuntu. I need to be able to stream my desktop and/or me via live ustream streaming.
[18:23] <TJ-> lrs: I can see 0% evidence in the dmesg log, or the lsub/lspci of any Bluetooth device
[18:23] <daftykins> motaka2: hmm, it's possible. personally i would buy a flash drive, they're infinitely better
[18:24] <motaka2> daftykins: What is a flash drive?
[18:24] <Ownasaurus2> motaka2: usb drive, flash drive, thumb drive, etc
[18:25] <lrs> TJ-, What about it in the pastebinit file? Theres a bluetooth section there
[18:25] <motaka2> Ownasaurus2: Such thing didnt exist in the store
[18:25] <lrs> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12950269/ line 900
[18:25] <daftykins> motaka2: USB thumb drive / USB key / etc
[18:25] <daftykins> ah Ownasaurus2 beat me :>
[18:25] <daftykins> motaka2: buy online if you can
[18:26] <motaka2> daftykins: can you give me a link ?
[18:26] <daftykins> motaka2: i don't know where you are in the world to recommend a website
[18:27] <daftykins> but everywhere has flash drives for sale
[18:27] <daftykins> even supermarkets sell them now
[18:27] <TJ-> lrs: That is just the kernel Bluetooth layer initialising. There's no sign of hardware
[18:27] <motaka2> daftykins: I have a flash drive. you mean I have to download ubuntu from it's website on my flash  ?
[18:28] <lrs> Hmm
[18:28] <daftykins> motaka2: yeah it's way better to boot from those
[18:28] <daftykins> gartral: the logs would help you find out what's failing
[18:28] <motaka2> I have a 4 gig flash is that enough ?
[18:29] <gwg_> any simple antivirus software?
[18:29] <daftykins> motaka2: plenty, but you'll need to take everything off it that's important - as the drive will be wiped. what OS is on the computer you're typing from?
[18:29] <daftykins> !av | gwg_
[18:30] <motaka2> daftykins: windows vista
[18:30] <daftykins> motaka2: ok so download an ISO of 14.04.3, visit pendrivelinux.com and download UUI (the Universal USB Installer) and it'll put the ISO on the drive for you
[18:30] <gwg_> what about emails?
[18:31] <motaka2> daftykins: thank you
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> gwg_: geary, thunderbird
[18:31] <daftykins> gwg_: that's the responsibility of your mail setup
[18:31] <daftykins> not the OS.
[18:31] <TJ-> lrs for now lets assume there is some BT hardware, which means we need to find out how it SHOULD present itself - on USB, or possibly a co-device with the WiFi on PCI
[18:33] <gwg_> i tried comodo but couldn't get it to work
[18:34] <lrs> TJ-, I dont get this.... Its enabled in bios
[18:34] <lrs> Its shipped to my computer
[18:34] <lrs> Why dont ubuntu find it?
[18:35] <motaka2> daftykins: downloading on harddisk, it takes abou2 and a half hour
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> lrs: did you check your ubuntu iso for broadcom driver
[18:35] <daftykins> motaka2: no problem
[18:35] <daftykins> motaka2: follow this when you finish downloading...
[18:35] <lrs> lotuspsychje, I dont think i have that isso left
[18:35] <daftykins> !md5 | motaka2
[18:36] <TJ-> lrs: I'm trying to find mention of the same PC with a working linux BT so we can compare the devices
[18:36] <motaka2> daftykins: tshould I still wait?
[18:36] <lrs> TJ-, On google? I've googled like a maniac for this problem
[18:36] <daftykins> motaka2: well it's not doing any harm trying whilst you wait for the download
[18:37] <ioria> lrs have  you tried hcitool dev
[18:37] <TJ-> lrs: can you show me "lspci -nn -s 03:00.0"
[18:37] <lrs> 03:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 [8086:4238] (rev 3e)
[18:37] <TJ-> ioria: yes, there's no sign of a BT device at all, rfkill doesn't show a control point either
[18:37] <motaka2> daftykins: Shouldn't I tery other options like check disk etc ?
[18:37] <ioria> oh
[18:37] <daftykins> motaka2: if you like
[18:38] <lrs> I think that one is the bluetooth driver. Since i can switch off wireless, and it switches off both bluetooth and network im guessing its one the same adapter
[18:38] <daftykins> i'm unaware if you can get the bluetooth working on the intel combo cards
[18:38] <lrs> But thats just guiessing
[18:39] <lrs> But i have no idea. If i look at the specs of 6300, it doesnt say anything about bluetooth
[18:39] <daftykins> surely you've dug into full info output
[18:39] <daftykins> also, sometimes machines don't have bluetooth but may have the LED
[18:39] <TJ-> lrs: If the 430 is similar to the 410, then this info might be similar: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201103-7376/
[18:39] <motaka2> daftykins: even install ubuntu doesnt work I really think something is wrong with my hardware or my ubuntu dvd
[18:40] <lrs> TJ-, *530
[18:40] <TJ-> lrs: there, it shows the BT device has an ACPI switch controller (tpacpi_bluetooth_sw) and an unknown hci0 adapter
[18:40] <daftykins> motaka2: ok, switch it off and wait for the download then.
[18:40] <TJ-> lrs: Grrr, my typos. Let me start searching again :D
[18:41] <ioria> lrs dmesg | grep -i blue
[18:41] <lrs> ioria, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12953390/
[18:42] <motaka2> ok thank you
[18:42] <lrs> daftykins, Thats the only thing that is mentioned ^
[18:42] <aabbccd> hi
[18:42] <gartral> !snappy
[18:42] <ioria> seems ok....
[18:42] <motaka2> daftykins: Why do you think my previous installation corrupted little by little?
[18:42] <gartral> is there an ubuntu-core/snappy specific channel?
[18:42] <daftykins> motaka2: i never claimed that
[18:42] <Gerowen> Anybody know what changed in 15.10 that the PCSXR emulator no longer works?  It starts up, but won't start games either from ISO image or from actual PS disc.
[18:43] <bazhang> #snappy   gartral
[18:43] <rizi> hi everyone i am using gpart to format my usb but its saying "trouble writing out superblocks" how do i troubleshoot it
[18:43] <bazhang> as in the link above gartral
[18:43] <motaka2> daftykins: I know. I said that as  for a long time when booting up it said you have a problem with /tmp but I didnt care and I pressed the I to ignore it and see my desktop, a few days ago I had to restart it 2 or 3 times to see my desktop
[18:44] <lrs> TJ-, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/catalog/component/usb/4103/8087%3A0a2a/ This maybe..?
[18:44] <TJ-> lrs: the device is missing or failed. See https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Thinkpad/T520/squeeze
[18:44] <daftykins> motaka2: well, i'd rather just wait and try dealing with the download than guess :)
[18:44] <motaka2> ok
[18:44] <TJ-> lrs: notice under the USB listing, "Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0a5c:217f Broadcom Corp. Bluetooth Controller"
[18:44] <lrs> Hmmm
[18:45] <motaka2> daftykins: I lost all my emails I am really angry aand also all my LAMP stting
[18:45] <TJ-> lrs: I bet there's a small slot for the BT module but it isn't fitted. You could open it up and check.
[18:45] <lrs> TJ-, The T20 uses bluetooth 3.0 though, im on bt 4.0
[18:45] <lrs> Not sure if its the same module
[18:45] <lrs> Hmmmm
[18:46] <TJ-> lrs: no matter; the point is this indicates how the BT module is connected, it's a USB device on an internal mobo USB port.
[18:46] <daftykins> motaka2: but you don't know that you've lost anything yet, just because the install doesn't boot - the data hasn't disappeared.
[18:46] <daftykins> it's all sitting right there
[18:46] <lrs> TJ-, Youre saying there is a usb on the mb, and that my bluetooth adapter is plugged in to that one?
[18:46] <motaka2> daftykins: i hope so
[18:48] <TJ-> lrs: I'm saying that is how it would be connected if it were there. So, either it isn't there, or it has become disconnected/broken cable, or the module itself has failed. I've seen a few of those happen. Opening up the laptop and physically checking for the presence of the BT module is the only way to be sure.
[18:52] <lrs> TJ-, Im gonna open it up and check
[18:52] <lrs> brb
[18:53] <TJ-> lrs: ...
[18:53] <TJ-> lrs: .... see the "Service Manual" section of http://emergent.unpythonic.net/01365079830
[18:53] <TJ-> lrs "For instance, to access the bluetooth module (1120) it's necessary to first remove the keyboard bezel assembly (1110) but this prerequisite is not listed."
[18:54] <daftykins> motaka2: do you own any external hard disks to use to backup the broken system? (laptop or desktop?)
[18:58] <roni> oi
[18:58] <roni> alguem na parada
[18:59] <motaka2> daftykins: No I dont
[18:59] <Ownasaurus2> TJ-: daftykins: OK it is now officially 100% working.  i will post my results where you recommend
[19:01] <TJ-> Ownasaurus2: Fantastic!
[19:02] <Ownasaurus2> !broadcom
[19:02] <gianluca1> hi everyone
[19:02] <heber> hi
[19:09] <qu4nt1n> !s fritz the cat
[19:09] <gianluca1> I have problems trying to install the package "libgtk2.0-0:i386" on an Ubuntu Server 14.04 virtual machine hosted in the cloud, a Travis-CI build server, apt-get says "E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libgtk2.0-0'", but it works on another Ubuntu Server virtual machine (same version) on my local PC, does anyone know how could I solve? Thanks very much
[19:10] <daftykins> gianluca1: state the full command
[19:11] <gianluca1> daftykins: apt-get install -y libgtk2.0-0:i386
[19:12] <ioria> gianluca1, libgtk2.0-0  ?
[19:12] <gianluca1> i need it to cross-compile a gtk application for i386 on an x86_64 machine
[19:12] <gianluca1> ioria: yes, but for i386
[19:13] <ioria> gianluca1, i don't cross-compile  but i  think that you need the cross-compile  gcc   and  -m32 flag ...
[19:14] <daftykins> gianluca1: i suspect your repos differ between systems
[19:14] <ikonia> just adding -m32 is not cross-compiling
[19:14] <gianluca1> ioria: first of all thanks for help. I'm already using it, but i need that package because I reference the GTK library, and I need the 386 version
[19:14] <ikonia> you'll need libraries and toolchain in place
[19:15] <gianluca1> daftykins: thanks, have you any idea how could I fix it?
[19:15] <daftykins> gianluca1: well, one option which isn't ideal is - http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/i386/libgtk2.0-0/download
[19:16] <daftykins> another is to compare the repos on your systems.
[19:16] <Twirl> hey man, kind of a weird question, anyone knows how to make compiz controls to appear only in one of the screens ?
[19:16] <gianluca1> I tought about manually download, but how can I solve the dependencies? Do I need to install them manually?
[19:16] <ioria> !info  cross-gcc-dev
[19:18] <daftykins> gianluca1: you already installed them at home, so scp the packages over.
[19:19] <gianluca1> hmmm I probably can't
[19:19] <gianluca1> do you know about Travis-CI?
[19:19] <TJ-> gianluca1: "libgtk2.0-0:i386" ... that pre-supposes you've configured an amd64 system with foreign architecture i386 using "dpkg --add-architecture" - is that so?
[19:19] <gianluca1> yes
[19:19] <TJ-> gianluca1: and what does "apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0:i386" report?
[19:19] <gianluca1> I tried to add that command in the build script
[19:20] <gianluca1> but it didn't worked
[19:21] <daftykins> gianluca1: never heard of it no
[19:21] <gianluca1> TJ-: ok, thanks, I'll post the output in a few minutes
[19:21] <daftykins> minutes!? :P
[19:21] <gianluca1> daftykins: it's a cloud build system
[19:21] <gianluca1> I connect it to my git repository and it builds my application on each commit
[19:21] <daftykins> that doesn't bear any relevance to us, as long as it's real ubuntu that's ok.
[19:22] <gianluca1> i don't have shell access to it, i can run scripts and the output is emailed to me
[19:22] <gianluca1> yes it's Ubuntu Server 14.04
[19:22] <daftykins> that is very odd.
[19:22] <TJ-> gianluca1: see for example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12956535/
[19:23] <gianluca1> TJ-: i have the same output on my machine
[19:23] <gianluca1> except for the repository being it. instead of gb.
[19:24] <TJ-> gianluca1: OK, so "apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386" ought to work, allowing for all its dependencies being available
[19:24] <gianluca1> infact it does... on my machine and not in the Travis-CI one
[19:25] <gianluca1> i added dpkg --add-architecture i386 to .travis.yml (in the sections for the commands to run before build) but it didn't worked
[19:26] <TJ-> gianluca1: it'd also need "apt-get update" to fetch the i386 package lists, before "apt-get install ..."
[19:26] <daftykins> win 13
[19:26] <gianluca1> yes, I already do it
[19:26] <daftykins> oops
[19:27] <__Myst__> Hi
[19:27] <__Myst__> I was wonderin gif there was a way, in cron, to set something to run every 2 days
[19:27] <gianluca1> could i add the repository with apt-add-repository? i tried with "sudo add-apt-repository 'deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty-updates main restricted'", but it didn't worked
[19:28] <ikonia> on the day field /2
[19:28] <__Myst__> day field? I honestly forgot
[19:28] <ikonia> would do every 2 days
[19:28] <ikonia> or just 0,2,4,6 on the day field
[19:28] <ikonia> whatever you like better
[19:28] <__Myst__> wait
[19:28] <__Myst__> sooo
[19:29] <__Myst__> * * * * */2 myCommand ikonia?
[19:29] <ikonia> should work
[19:29] <ikonia> ot 0,2,4,6
[19:29] <ikonia> or
[19:30] <__Myst__> Well
[19:30] <__Myst__> the date needs to be even
[19:30] <ikonia> sorry the DOM
[19:30] <__Myst__> not the day of the week
[19:30] <ikonia> not the day field
[19:30] <__Myst__> so
[19:30] <ikonia> DOW should be *
[19:30] <__Myst__> * * */2 * * myCOmmand ikonia?
[19:30] <vutras> is ati fglrx driver fixed? :)
[19:30] <ikonia> yes, sorry
[19:31] <ikonia> or * and then 0,2,3,6 on DOW
[19:31] <ikonia> which ever you like best
[19:33] <drmagoo> I have a really odd problem that I havent been able to resolve. I am running Ubuntu 14.04, with a geforce gtx960 (and drivers from xorg-edgers) and two monitors. Right now my wm is I3, but I had the same problem with Unity. The problem is that when the system "wakes back up" only the primary monitor starts up, the secondary doesnt get a signal. It works at first boot, and also if I put the monitors back into powersave and awake them agai
[19:33] <daftykins> how about switching TTY and back again?
[19:34] <lrs> TJ-, There?
[19:34] <lrs> TJ-, Well, I have a bluetooth adapter.
[19:34] <lrs> For sure.
[19:34] <ikonia> it's just going to be the nvidia driver sleep bug again
[19:34] <daftykins> ikonia: oh?
[19:34] <ikonia> (I'm assuming it's the same bug that comes back every release)
[19:37] <lrs> I have no idea what the heck is the problem
[19:37] <lrs> 1. I have a bluetooth adapter 2. It doesnt show up anywhere
[19:37] <daftykins> 19:07 < TJ-> In #ubuntu is lrs comes back point him to the T520 service manual link, and tell him Bluetooth module is mentioned on page 86, at http://emergent.unpythonic.net/01365079830
[19:37] <daftykins> lrs: ^
[19:39] <TJ-> lrs: possibly it has failed then. Did you take a photo of it, it would be good to get the product ID :)
[19:39] <XIX> I've heard that ATI graphics cards have better support for Linux distros. Is this really true?
[19:39] <ikonia> no
[19:39] <daftykins> XIX: no that's a terrible lie
[19:39] <lrs> TJ-, Urgh.... I was thinking about it but didnt
[19:39] <daftykins> AMD are the worst (they haven't been called ATi for years)
[19:40] <lrs> I only remember it saying Fretel? Fratel? Something frenchlike tel
[19:40] <vutras> what are some interesting apps and customization tools for ubuntu mate? :)
[19:40] <TJ-> lrs: Well, at least we know there's a hardware/cable issue since nothing shows up on the USB bus
[19:41] <lrs> TJ-, Are you sure?
[19:41] <lrs> I mean, it says enabled in bios
[19:41] <lrs> :X
[19:41] <lrs> Shouldnt it just blink and something if it was problematic
[19:41] <daftykins> heh no
[19:41] <lrs> I mean, when you boot up
[19:42] <lrs> *bluetooth mising*
[19:42] <daftykins> nope
[19:42] <lrs> Well, thing is
[19:42] <TJ-> lrs: I had similar modules fail twice on Dell laptops; I just bought replacements on eBay for a few £
[19:42] <lrs> I havent use bluetooth at all
[19:42] <lrs> so why does it break?
[19:42] <vutras> Anyone knows how can I fix this? Running Steam on ubuntu 15.10 64-bit
[19:42] <vutras> STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically
[19:42] <vutras> Installing breakpad exception handler for appid(steam)/version(0)
[19:42] <vutras> libGL error: unable to load driver: r600_dri.so
[19:42] <vutras> libGL error: driver pointer missing
[19:42] <vutras> libGL error: failed to load driver: r600
[19:43] <lrs> TJ-, What about usb bluetooth adapters?
[19:44] <TJ-> lrs: Sure... if you don't mind it hanging off the side
[19:44] <daftykins> lrs: are you new to Linux?
[19:44] <vutras> can anyone help me with Steam, it wont load on Ubuntu Mate... http://paste.ubuntu.com/12957381/
[19:44] <lrs> daftykins, No way... probably 3+ years in
[19:44] <donguston> How do i remove the amazon spyware?
[19:44] <ikonia> donguston: it doesn't exist
[19:45] <bazhang> !steam | vutras
[19:45] <lrs> daftykins, Why?
[19:45] <donguston> so when i type something in the search bar and it shows shopping results
[19:45] <parapan> Hello brothers I need help recovering an ubuntu install, from dual-boot system, ubuntu 12.04 + win 7 ...
[19:45] <donguston> thats not spyware - all my searches being sent to a remote server
[19:45] <donguston> ?
[19:45] <bazhang> #ubuntu-steam  <---- vutras
[19:45] <lrs> TJ-, What about support for ubuntu? Is there any usb bluetooth dongle that works?
[19:45] <daftykins> lrs: just a bit surprised this seems the first time you've seen something not work out of the box
[19:45] <ikonia> donguston: you asked for amazon
[19:45] <ikonia> donguston: ubuntu comes with lens's that you can enable/disable as you see fit
[19:45] <k1l> donguston: see privacy settings in system settings.
[19:46] <daftykins> donguston: it is not, no... you are misusing the term.
[19:46] <lrs> daftykins, How do you mean?
[19:46] <daftykins> nevermind, lrs.
[19:46] <donguston> its softwre that leads to the recording of everything i type into my search bar
[19:46] <lrs> Im used to stuff not working, but completely not even accesible I havent
[19:46] <donguston> in what way isnt that spyware?
[19:46] <ikonia> donguston: it doesn't recorc
[19:47] <ikonia> donguston: if you don't want it - just disable it in privary
[19:47] <TJ-> lrs: most do that I'm aware of; never had problems myself. Stuff with Broadcom can be problematic because of their attitude to open-sourcing the drivers.
[19:47] <lrs> Thats why im  curious if its linux itself that doesnt recognize it
[19:47] <lrs> Yeah, thats what im thinking too
[19:47] <vutras> thank you guys :)
[19:47] <k1l> donguston: stop that. you got a technical support answer. dont spoil this channel with intentional trolling
[19:47] <lrs> New lenovo is sh*t so also they have these add on programs for windows that you use, and i was so stupid that i didnt order a lenovo that had a ubuntu cert on it
[19:48] <Bashing-om> vutras: See the release notes for 15.10 and may I suggest that you subscribe to the bug report ? To this time AMD has not stepped up .
[19:48] <TJ-> lrs: Even if there was no driver, the device would show up on the USB bus
[19:48] <lrs> My guess is 1. I got the shitty unsupported bluetooth with built in drivers that only work on windows 2. Its broken
[19:48] <parapan> ikonia: can you take a look on my issue pls ?
[19:48] <ikonia> lrs: tone down the language
[19:48] <ikonia> parapan: just ask the channel
[19:49] <parapan> ikonia: did that already
[19:49] <ikonia> parapan: not seen you ask any question,
[19:49] <lrs> TJ-, Are you 100% sure of that?
[19:49] <TJ-> lrs: Yes
[19:49] <parapan> ikonia:  Hello brothers I need help recovering an ubuntu install, from dual-boot system, ubuntu 12.04 + win 7 ...
[19:49] <daftykins> parapan: that's sexist
[19:49] <ikonia> parapan: that's not a question
[19:50] <vutras> Bashing-om, how to subscribe the bug?
[19:50] <TJ-> lrs: the device contains a descriptor with its own info in; querying the USB devices on a bus returns that info, and displays it. If you don't see it listed by lsusb it ain't responding
[19:50] <parapan> daftykins: ?
[19:50] <ikonia> parapan: explain how you need help to the channel
[19:50] <nomad411> Hi.. I followed the advice from apt-get and removed some unused linux header with an apt-get autoremove.  I ended up with this message at the end of it: The link /vmlinuz.old is a damaged link
[19:50] <nomad411> Removing symbolic link vmlinuz.old
[19:50] <nomad411>  you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]
[19:50] <nomad411> The link /initrd.img.old is a damaged link
[19:50] <nomad411> Removing symbolic link initrd.img.old
[19:50] <nomad411>  you may need to re-run your boot loader[grub]
[19:50] <daftykins> nomad411: doesn't matter in the slightest.
[19:50] <Bashing-om> vutras: Foloow the bug report link and "affects me too " .
[19:51] <daftykins> nomad411: please don't paste in future, though
[19:51] <k1l> nomad411: just run a "sudo update-grub" again
[19:51] <nomad411> I noticed that, sorry. I had put all in one message, but it broke it down anyway :(
[19:51] <lrs> TJ-, What if, lets say, this device is shut off and shut on by the function button (which it can be), but lets assume that ubuntu gets the switch thing to work one wireless and not bluetooth becausse the bluetooth drivers are obscure as heck. Is there any possibility that when querying with lsusb, it shows the device as shut off?
[19:52] <TJ-> lrs: if there is a platform hardware switch that controls device power, then yes, that could affect it
[19:52] <gianluca1> i may have found my problem
[19:52] <TJ-> lrs: but the usual switch is only for RF Kill, and equally affects Bluetooth and WiFi at the same time
[19:52] <gianluca1> i created a new git repository for testing and i made a build script that makes travis print its sources.list
[19:53] <nomad411> Thanks k1l , daftykins
[19:53] <lrs> TJ-, How do you mean?
[19:53] <TJ-> lrs: and in the RF Kill case, the BT device would still show up with "rfkill list"
[19:53] <gianluca1> and i found that two lines, referring to backports, are commented out
[19:53] <lrs> What is Rf kill=?
[19:53] <lrs> Ah right, its the block thing
[19:53] <TJ-> lrs: There might be platform power-saving functionality that turns off all power to the BT device, under control of ACPI possibly
[19:53] <TJ-> lrs: Yes, think "Airplane mode"
[19:53] <parapan> Dear channel: I have a dual boot system. win7 + ubuntu 12.04; I can access w7. I cannot access ubuntu. On the boot HDD I have C partition of w7 / F: partition of windows for storage ....and 4 other partitions: ubuntu boot / ubuntu memory / ubuntu storage / ubuntu system install. the install is reported as unallocated space from windows. I cannot access Ubuntu installation
[19:53] <lrs> TJ-, Yeah. That doesnt correspond to rfkill?
[19:53] <TJ-> lrs: it prevents the PC from radiating RF energy
[19:54] <ikonia> parapan: explain why you can't access
[19:54] <TJ-> lrs: no, RF kill just turns the radios off, but the device is still there and seen by the OS and tools
[19:54] <lrs> Radiating rf energy? Is it bad to get it?
[19:55] <TJ-> lrs: Well, it's microwave frequencies :D
[19:55] <lrs> Heh
[19:55] <lrs> I think Lenovo has some crappy stuff that is under OS-level, that messes with it
[19:55] <lrs> My theory
[19:56] <lrs> Or its just crap.
[19:56] <lrs> I think Ill buy a bluetooth adapter and a headphone to that
[19:56] <bobomb> has anyone here tried lunatic python?
[19:56] <lrs> Just need to check what is supported and whatever
[19:56] <nomad411> lunatic python?
[19:56] <drmagoo> I have a really odd problem that I havent been able to resolve. I am running Ubuntu 14.04, with a geforce gtx960 (and drivers from xorg-edgers) and two monitors. Right now my wm is I3, but I had the same problem with Unity. The problem is that when the system "wakes back up" only the primary monitor starts up, the secondary doesnt get a signal. It works at first boot, and also if I put the monitors back into powersave and awake them agai
[19:56] <TJ-> lrs: try reading the user manual there may be a clue there
[19:56] <bobomb> lua-python bridge
[19:57] <parapan> ikonia: it;s not there . . .it's a 20 Gb partition where the ubuntu was installed; I did some partition resizing to increase the win C: and after that the linux was not working; I booted with live 14.04 , I can see all windows partitions and from ubuntu I can see only 3 - boot (400 Mb)  / virtual memory (4Gb) / linux storage (250 Gb). I cannot see the install /. . ..
[19:57] <TJ-> lrs: you said there was something in the firmware setup about enabling the Bluetooth device? Silly idea, but if it is currently enabled try disabling it. Also, if possible, shutdown remove battery, press power button to drain capacitors, reconnect battery, reboot
[19:57] <ikonia> parapan: there is your answer then
[19:57] <ikonia> parapan: you've removed the partition
[19:58] <parapan> ikonia: how can I bring it back ?
[19:58] <lrs> TJ-, Ill try that, brb
[19:58] <daftykins> drmagoo: i replied to you last time and you did not see it, go read it
[19:58] <ikonia> probably can't at this stage
[19:58] <daftykins> ikonia - parapan - that's not entirely true, testdisk could be tried
[19:58] <drmagoo> daftykins: Sorry, will do. Thanks
[19:59] <geoper2> the data on that partition must have been overwritten though
[19:59] <ikonia> try it, but moving the blocks around for the file system extension makes it unlikley,
[19:59] <daftykins> geoper2: that's a huge assumption
[19:59] <geoper2> a try wont hurt
[19:59] <geoper2> i am just saying
[19:59] <parapan> daftykins: what is testdisk ?
[20:00] <drmagoo> daftykins: did you mean "switch tty and back again"? I have tried that, still same issue
[20:01] <Bashing-om> parapan: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step ; http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/15761/recover-data-like-a-forensics-expert-using-an-ubuntu-live-cd/ .
[20:01] <parapan> daftykins: ikonia : my question is - can I bring it on ? when trying to boot the / ...I end up with ifrssomething path .....the only "things" I can access are some linux folders ....like etc / drivers / root . .. etc ...but no home folder or similar ...
[20:03] <daftykins> parapan: boot an ubuntu live session then come back, Windows does not list Linux partitions as 'unallocated' so i suspect it has been deleted.
[20:03] <TJ-> parapan: it sounds as if the Windows partition followed the Linux partition. Did you extend the Windows partition downwards to take up the space at the end of the Linux root file-system partition?
[20:03] <goddard> i have openjdk and i am trying to add my JAVA_HOME variable but android-studio is still complaining about this path /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/ is this not right?
[20:05] <parapan> daftykins: I'm past that step. already booted the live ubuntu; I can "see" the boot / virtual mem / storage partitions ....but not the "/" ....
[20:06] <daftykins> parapan: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit
[20:06] <carrgo> anyone out there
[20:06] <parapan> Bashing-om: thanks for the links brother ...however ....I want to know if I can see the " / " again ...
[20:06] <carrgo> need to noob help
[20:07] <daftykins> carrgo: start with a question.
[20:07] <carrgo> ok, just installed back box 4,4 this moring
[20:07] <daftykins> !backbox
[20:07] <carrgo> tried to set up my vpn
[20:07] <carrgo> but
[20:07] <daftykins> we do not help with that here, sorry.
[20:07] <carrgo> they do not support ipv6
[20:07] <carrgo> most dont
[20:07] <parapan> daftykins: wait a second sister; I do not have the time now to go into that direction; what I need to know if it's worth trying .....
[20:08] <daftykins> parapan: please stop applying gender to your questions, it is not appropriate online
[20:08] <carrgo> I need to disable ipv6 on all my machine
[20:08] <daftykins> parapan: just run the command, it will answer more than you can do in an hours worth of fiddling.
[20:08] <carrgo> what command
[20:08] <daftykins> parapan: i'm asking you to help us to help you.
[20:08] <daftykins> carrgo: like i said we do not support backbox here, please go to their channel.
[20:09] <english9090> my problem is funny with distro live after connect to internet view realtek audio in my ubuntu 15.10 upgraded from 15.04
[20:09] <parapan> daftykins: you said my question is sexiest ...so I've assumed you're offended by the "brothers" wording ...
[20:09] <k1l> carrgo: see the bots message to see where you can get help with backbox
[20:09] <carrgo> oh osrry
[20:09] <carrgo> ok
[20:09] <english9090> my problem is funny with distro live after connect to internet view realtek audio in my ubuntu 15.10 upgraded from 15.04 not view rt audio
[20:09] <parapan> daftykins: grrr wait for a sec pls ...
[20:09] <TJ-> carrgo: "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/disable_ipv6"
[20:10] <lrs> TJ-, Nope. Didnt work. But im gonna try updating the bios
[20:10] <TJ-> lrs: OK :)
[20:10] <TJ-> lrs: you can do something else for me too
[20:10] <lrs> Whats that
[20:10] <english9090> tj bro how are you you are happy to help me via teamviewer
[20:11] <TJ-> lrs: "sudo strings /sys/firmware/acpi/tables/DSDT | grep -i windows | pastebinit"
[20:11] <TJ-> english9090: No, we only do support on IRC, and I'm about to go to dinner
[20:11] <daftykins> english9090: test the guest session.
[20:11] <lrs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12958365/
[20:11] <english9090> guest session
[20:12] <daftykins> yes.
[20:12] <TJ-> daftykins: we worked on english9090 issue the past few days. Summary: ALSA can see the HDA realtek built-in audio device, and use it with speaker-test, but PulseAudio in a user sesson cannot see the device, only the ALSA HDMI output on the GPU
[20:12] <daftykins> TJ-: ah ok
[20:12] <daftykins> !pm | english9090
[20:12] <TJ-> daftykins: I *suspect* something in the user profile is causing PA to ignore one of the 2 ALSA devices
[20:13] <daftykins> so the guest account probably would work fine?
[20:13] <lrs> TJ-, Anyhing interesting?
[20:13] <english9090> yes pulse audio have group user
[20:13] <english9090> without user inserted
[20:13] <TJ-> daftykins: That is worth testing certainly, but i think the complication is also the system was release-upgraded so the effect may be systemwide
[20:13] <daftykins> ah ok so not solely user config, ouch
[20:14] <daftykins> english9090: one easy way to rule that out, boot a 15.10 live session :)
[20:14] <english9090> ok
[20:14] <english9090> but in my pc have
[20:14] <english9090> some important data
[20:15] <english9090> if i am uninstall pulse and alsa
[20:15] <english9090> make autoremove
[20:15] <english9090> a purge
[20:15] <english9090> and reinstall only alsda
[20:15] <english9090> alsa
[20:15] <TJ-> lrs: I'm wondering if you need to tell the firmware the OS is actually Windows. There's a growing major BUG in many firmwares where they don't provide anything but minimum ACPI services to Linux, so Linux as to pretend to be the latest Windows version. Luckily, the ACPI DSDT includes the text strings of the Windows versions the firmware recognises, so we can fake it.
[20:16] <lrs> TJ-, Yeah, I had an option in bios where it was stated if i used windows as os
[20:16] <lrs> Some uefi hting
[20:16] <lrs> But now i cant find it
[20:16] <lrs> When i was searching in the bios
[20:16] <daftykins> english9090: you're just booting to test, i did not say install - please do not press enter and spam us with tens of lines like that
[20:16] <TJ-> lrs: reboot, edit the kernel command-line at the GRUB menu, press 'E' to edit the default entry, navigate to the line "linux ...",  add (including the quotes): "acpi_osi=Windows 2012" then press Ctrl+X to boot with that setting.
[20:17] <english9090> ok but i am try live ubuntu and work
[20:17] <TJ-> lrs: once booted, use "lsusb" and look for a BT device. If none, then do "rfkill list" see if there's a BT radio node. If not, try pressing the hardware RF airplane key/button and run the commands again
[20:17] <daftykins> english9090: i don't understand your sentence
[20:17] <lrs> acpi_osi="Windows 2012"
[20:17] <lrs> Its an i after os?
[20:18] <english9090> the proof of audio driver in live ubuntu work
[20:18] <lrs> Ok brb
[20:18] <daftykins> ok, can't help you anyway - i don't do audio really.
[20:18] <Felix90> hi
[20:19] <english9090> hi felix
[20:19] <Felix90> how do I install the samba web gui?
[20:20] <daftykins> don't, configure samba properly manually
[20:20] <english9090> try  $ gpg --import samba-pubkey.asc
[20:20] <english9090> $ gunzip samba-version.tar.gz
[20:20] <english9090> $ gpg --verify samba-release.tar.asc
[20:20] <english9090> gpg: Signature made Tue 20 Nov 2007 07:12:04 PM CST using \
[20:20] <english9090>   DSA key ID 6568B7EA
[20:20] <english9090> gpg: Good signature from "Samba Distribution Verification Key \
[20:21] <Felix90> daftykins: I like I do?
[20:21] <bekks> english9090: thats not how to install and use software on ubuntu.
[20:21] <parapan2> daftykins: i'm on the ubuntu live now, command is not working ,,
[20:21] <daftykins> parapan2: are you connected to the internet on it right now?
[20:22] <lrs> TJ-, Nooope
[20:22] <parapan2> daftykins: yes, running live distro, all 3 HDD connected to the system ..., on internet via eth0
[20:22] <TJ-> lrs: can we make sure it's using that setting? "pastebinit <( cat /proc/cmdline; dmesg | grep Windows )"
[20:23] <daftykins> parapan2: and why did the command not work? "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" in a terminal.
[20:23] <parapan2> daftykins: unable to locate the package
[20:23] <gianluca1> guys i fixed my problem, if someone was interested, it was a *really* stupid thing... in the build script i was doing "dpkg --add-architecture i386" *before* "apt-get update"! thanks everyone for help
[20:23] <lrs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12958738/
[20:24] <TJ-> gianluca1: but it should be doing it before! Else apt-get update won't know to fetch the i386 packages
[20:24] <parapan2> daftykins: but I can pastebin online now if you want ...
[20:24] <gianluca1> well... i'm screwed lol
[20:24] <TJ-> gianluca1: :D
[20:24] <gianluca1> i wanted to say after
[20:24] <daftykins> parapan2: just do it.
[20:25] <aarobc> so apparently fglrx drivers aren't supported on the version 4.2 kernel
[20:25] <ioria2> gianluca1, did yousolved  ?
[20:25] <ioria2> gianluca1, did you solve ?
[20:25] <gianluca1> ioria2: yeah, thanks
[20:26] <parapan2> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/MeXTtkzW
[20:26] <Bashing-om> aarobc: AMD has not provided a supported driver to this time .. See the release notes and the bug report .
[20:26] <gianluca1> i was thinking about complicated things about wrong repositories, when it was just me putting commands in wrong order in the script
[20:26] <ioria2> gianluca1, -gg
[20:26] <ioria2> gianluca1, -qq
[20:27] <daftykins> parapan2: no, "sudo parted -l | pastebinit"
[20:27] <aarobc> Bashing-om: so sad, and steam doesn't seem to work under the mesa drivers
[20:28] <Bashing-om> aarobc: Again, yes, that is a fact, steam requires FGLRX . Maybe add some more pressure by adding yourself to the bug report ?
[20:28] <aarobc> indeed
[20:29] <lrs> TJ-, What did that mean
[20:29] <Felix90> how do I configure Samba 's web interface?
[20:30] <bekks> Felix90: you dont, you configure samba manually.
[20:30] <daftykins> Felix90: like i said you don't, you configure samba properly manually :)
[20:30] <daftykins> two helpers can't be wrong! ;)
[20:31] <Felix90> bekks: but the web interface exists, right?
[20:31] <parapan2> daftykins: http://pastebin.com/xWRuT8Ks - let's resume to the command itself, without trying to paste-it; I;ll do that  manually
[20:31] <ioria2> smart
[20:31] <TJ-> lrs: that is very wierd!
[20:31] <Felix90> It should be called SWAT
[20:31] <TJ-> lrs: the command line doesn't show the setting, but the kernel specifically calls out "ACPI: Deleted _OSI(Windows 2012)"
[20:31] <daftykins> parapan2: no, you will run things the way i instruct
[20:32] <dm_comp> hi, can I use dd on ubuntu isos, since startup disk creator is broken on 15.10?
[20:32] <TJ-> lrs: "dmesg | pastebinit"
[20:32] <k1l> dm_comp: yes
[20:32] <daftykins> parapan2: you don't have a Linux / file system so you can't boot regardless, you'll need to reinstall.
[20:32] <dm_comp> k1l: thx!
[20:32] <lrs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12959010/
[20:32] <daftykins> parapan2: ah no it's fine, i just misread
[20:32] <k1l> dm_comp: just be sure to dd to the bare device and not sdb1 (which is a partition)
[20:32] <parapan2> daftykins: it;s not working that way . . .already tried the direct pastebin . . . .
[20:33] <daftykins> parapan2: then you're doing something wrong
[20:33] <mekkhai> hi, im having troubles persisting my configuration on my eeepc, i have updated the /etc/network/interfaces with auto on vlan but still it never connects on startup and i need to manually start vlan0 and call dhclient. any ideas what im doing wrong?
[20:33] <TJ-> lrs: look at line 5. I don't see "acpi_osi=Windows 2012" there, which suggests somehow you booted without it
[20:34] <TJ-> lrs and line 282 shows it didn't use it, it used Linux. "[Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored"
[20:34] <parapan2> daftykins: what ? i just type the command in terminal ...you can see that; but again, i can run the commands and manually put the result to pastebin ...
[20:34] <daftykins> parapan2: that's not what i want, but it doesn't matter now - i've already seen the information i asked for.
[20:34] <dm_comp> k1l: okay.
[20:34] <daftykins> parapan2: maybe you struggled to find the | key.
[20:35] <parapan2> daftykins: that we can agree then . . .
[20:35] <daftykins> parapan2: not really, i don't understand why you insisted on making the task harder
[20:35] <parapan2> daftykins: | no struggle
[20:35] <daftykins> parapan2: /dev/sda3 looks like your /
[20:36] <daftykins> parapan2: it makes no sense why it is still ext3, however
[20:36] <daftykins> !bootrepair | parapan2 run this
[20:36] <lrs>  TJ- Hmm. ill reboot
[20:36] <TJ-> lrs: in case you made a mistake in the kernel command-line editing process, let me repeat, because that 'Deleted' message looks promising. Reboot, hold down shift until the GRUB boot menu shows. Highlight the Ubuntu entry, press 'E' to edit it. Navigate to the line starting "linux ...", where you see "quiet splash" insert BEFORE those the string - INCLUDING the outer quote marks - "acpi_osi=Windows 2012" so
[20:36] <TJ-> the line end looks like "  "acpi_osi=Windows 2012" quiet splash", THEN press either Ctrl+X, or F10, to boot with that change.
[20:37] <TJ-> Well, what a waste of typing!
[20:37] <smith1> help me folks - what kind of chat room is this?
[20:37] <bekks> smith1: official Ubuntu linux support.
[20:37] <daftykins> smith1: a support one, you can find out by reading the topic
[20:37] <parapan2> daftykins: I;ll run the command; however, that sda3 is the storage partition; it is not the /
[20:37] <daftykins> parapan2: then you don't have a / and you have not installed properly.
[20:37] <daftykins> reinstall :)
[20:39] <lrs> TJ-, Nope, no luck
[20:40] <cristi> did anyone notice Xorg hangs with sdl games like openra when overlaying stuff over it, like for example the balloon notification shown when changing sound volume?
[20:42] <cristi> at least on my 15.10 I see it hanging all the time, reproduces 100%
[20:43] <daftykins> lrs: check "cat /proc/cmdline"
[20:43] <parapan2> daftykins: boor repair installed ....report is " / founded "   ..options are recommende repair and create bootinfo summary
[20:43] <lrs> BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.13.0-66-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro quiet splash
[20:43] <daftykins> parapan2: sorry i'm done now.
[20:43] <lrs> I just wrote it on a line
[20:43] <lrs> There were multiple lines and i just wrote it htere
[20:43] <daftykins> lrs: yeah so you still don't have TJ-'s recommended line on your bootup parameters
[20:43] <odi> root
[20:43] <lrs> When i go back to boot options, its not there
[20:44] <parapan2> daftykins: ok!
[20:44] <lrs>  I shouldnt have rote it after that BOOT_IMAGE stuff right
[20:44] <parapan2> daftykins: thanks for bringing me so far !
[20:45] <lnostdal_> hi guys, i remember a while back using the openjdk packages meant you got only the first release or so (or the one at the time of a ubuntu release) and no updates (security) .. is this still the case? is the ubuntu repository openjdk packages updated once in a while these days?
[20:48] <OerHeks> lnostdal_, 4 sept 7 oct and current 8 oct https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+source/openjdk-7
[20:48] <OerHeks> so it is not a dead project
[20:50] <lnostdal_> yeah, but 15.10 was just released so that's sort of expected i guess
[20:50] <lnostdal_> but, say, look at 15.04 .. it is still at version "8u45-b14-1" here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-8
[20:50] <lnostdal_> meanwhile update 66 is out with security fixes and what not
[20:50] <OerHeks> just an example, check out other supported versions too, 12.04 14.04 ..
[20:51] <OerHeks> i am waiting on the NTP fix in 1:4.2.8
[20:51] <lnostdal_> i hate having to use the oracle versions
[20:54] <OerHeks> lnostdal_, if you point to 66 in openjdk 8, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-8
[20:55] <OerHeks> it is out for 15.10, not for vivid i see
[20:55] <lnostdal_> yup
[20:57] <daftykins> lrs: no, it's the spot where "quiet splash" is written, you add it *before*
[20:58] <daftykins> lrs: this really isn't that hard :)
[20:59] <frenda> Hi there
[20:59] <frenda> I want to open a port to bypass through firewall, something like this http://serverfault.com/questions/563872/selinux-allow-httpd-to-connect-to-a-specific-port
[21:00] <frenda> Indeed I want to open port 22000 to allow to syncthing.net app to comunicate to another mochine running Fedora. I opened it within Fedora following above link; Now, I want to open it in my Ubuntu Machine.
[21:01] <daftykins> ubuntu's firewall is not on by default, you would do so on your NAT firewall router - not the OS.
[21:01] <frenda> Is ubuntu firewall sth called AppArmor?
[21:01] <bekks> frenda: No. The firewall is called iptables, the frontend is called ufw.
[21:02] <frenda> daftykins: It's  a simple ADSL modem
[21:02] <daftykins> ok so you have Ubuntu handle the PPPoE/A authentication?
[21:02] <daftykins> so you aren't behind NAT?
[21:02] <jhave> Hello
[21:02] <daftykins> hi
[21:02] <frenda> So, you mean 222000 is available on Ubuntu?
[21:02] <jhave> Is its possible to run office on ubuntu ?
[21:03] <bekks> frenda: What is "222000"?
[21:03] <daftykins> frenda: no, 22,000 is though :P
[21:03] <khax> microsof office ?
[21:03] <daftykins> there are only 65,536 ports.
[21:03] <daftykins> khax: what about it? that is not a full question.
[21:03] <bekks> khax: random words?
[21:03] <khax> ups
[21:03] <daftykins> oh i get it now, you were asking jhave
[21:03] <frenda> jhave: yeah but it's a little tricky
[21:03] <khax> wrong chat
[21:03] <daftykins> jhave: possibly with wine, but i don't see the point.
[21:03] <daftykins> !appdb | jhave read here
[21:04] <vutras_> how to start Compiz after enabling it?
[21:04] <frenda> 22000*
[21:04] <Crysp> wine is good if you have enough ram
[21:04] <Crysp> its kinda intensive with older hardware
[21:05] <jhave> Sorry, i know its possible to use wine but are there are there a more easy way ?
[21:05] <goddard> how can i add arm support?
[21:05] <goddard> to qt creator in 14.04
[21:05] <bekks> jhave: Yeah, install a vm, use it.
[21:05] <TJ-> lrs: it looks like you're not booting the modified command-line correctly. After you've added the setting don't press any other key than either Ctrl+X or F10, both of which do the same thing - boot with the modifications. If you return to the boot menu your change is lost
[21:06] <daftykins> jhave: even easier would be using a Windows PC.
[21:06] <daftykins> and no, i'm serious
[21:06] <lrs> TJ-, Should i write all the waay at the top?
[21:06] <frenda> jhave: You can use Office365 which is microsoft online service. It works well in your browser
[21:07] <lrs> It says something p... blabla... and then theres loads of commands
[21:07] <lrs> Should i write it before that maybe
[21:07] <TJ-> lrs: the only place you need edit is on the line that starts "linux ...". Where you see "quiet splash" you can add the additional setting before or after those
[21:09] <Schnabeltierchen> Any suggestions for a lightweight Ubuntu-based distro for old notebooks?
[21:09] <lrs> TJ-, I wrote it before "setparams" now
[21:09] <OerHeks> jhave, winetricks or better playonlinux , a library full install scripts
[21:09] <TJ-> lrs: the only place you need edit is on the line that starts "linux ...". Where you see "quiet splash" you can add the additional setting before or after those
[21:09] <lrs> cat proc gives nothing
[21:09] <lrs> Oh......
[21:09] <lrs> ok brb
[21:09] <TJ-> lrs but ... too late,... again!
[21:09] <ycon_> Hi all, im trying to replicate systemctl start for upstart (init). Can anyone suggest how this is done? http://paste.pound-python.org/show/1BfnNRlh4tqqknXeJzlN/
[21:09] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PlayOnLinux
[21:11] <TJ-> ycon_: "sudo service uwsgi start"
[21:11] <TJ-> ycon_: the parameter is simply the name of the Upstart config file
[21:11] <lrs> TJ-, BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.13.0-66-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro quiet splash "acpi_osi=Windows 2012"
[21:11] <lrs>  8)
[21:12] <lrs> Dont know about the " thought, i wrote it like you said
[21:12] <TJ-> lrs YAY! now show me "pastebinit <( lscpi -nn; lsusb; hcitool dev; rfkill list; dmesg ) "
[21:12] <liarwolf> I have a question related to Mint. Can anyone be of assistance?
[21:12] <ycon_> TJ-, Thanks- and how would I enable on start? replacing start with enable hasn't workd?
[21:13] <lrs> lspci u mean right?
[21:13] <frenda> How can I change default browser? Currently the default id Chromum and I want to chage it to FF
[21:13] <daftykins> liarwolf: no, ask in Mint's channel please.
[21:13] <daftykins> !mint | liarwolf
[21:13] <TJ-> lrs! yeah, typo!
[21:13] <lrs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12960237/
[21:13] <liarwolf> Thanks for the direction.
[21:13] <TJ-> ycon_: "start on ..." should be correct, although usually its tied to another service rather than a sysv-init runlevel
[21:14] <lrs> Some ppl use acpi_osi="!Windows 2012"
[21:14] <lrs> On google ive seen
[21:16] <ycon_> TJ-, "service uwsgi start on" gives me the error "start: Env must be KEY=VALUE pairs". Is this because its tied to another service like you said?
[21:16] <lrs> TJ-, Should i change?
[21:16] <lrs> alot of ppl on google uses ! at the start
[21:16] <OerHeks> that has been suggested to you a hours ago
[21:16] <TJ-> ycon_: no, just "service uwsgi start"
[21:16] <TJ-> lrs: reading the log
[21:17] <ycon_> TJ-, but will that enable it at system boot?
[21:17] <TJ-> ycon_: no, that will start it manually. Within the file itself, the line "start on ..." defines what conditions cause the service to start
[21:18] <ycon_> oh so "start on boot" is all I need in the file itself?
[21:19] <lrs> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X230 says !windows
[21:19] <lrs> Im gonna try
[21:19] <ycon_> TJ-, my file currently has "start on runlevel [2345]"
[21:19] <TJ-> lrs: I'm looking careful to see if there is any sign of an additional USB host controller that didn't show up before. That is the only other possibility I can imagine would cause the BT device not to show up on the USB bus. Now Linux is getting the same sevices as Windows, any 'hidden' USB controller should show up. 'lsusb' doesn't indicate anything though, so I'm checking dmesg carefully
[21:19] <frenda> How can I change the default browser?
[21:20] <OerHeks> frenda, systemsettings > details
[21:20] <frenda> Ah, tnx
[21:20] <OerHeks> then 'default applications'
[21:21] <vutras_> how to use compiz when i enabled it?
[21:21] <lrs> Bah
[21:22] <lrs> Didnt happen anything
[21:22] <TJ-> lrs: I'd have been surprised if disabling Windows support fixed it :p ('!' means NOT)
[21:22] <lrs> Oh
[21:23] <lrs>  TJ- So, any more ideas?
[21:23] <k1l> vutras_: can you give more details?
[21:24] <kortiz> \join #ortiz665
[21:24] <OerHeks> there should be a CCSM tool http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:24] <TJ-> lrs: absolutely Zero sign of the device. Barring some kind of weird firmware disablement of the device, it looks like its dead. In my Dell laptops there's an option to enable/disable the BT device, so it is possible there's something in that Lenovo firmware that does the same. If you can't find such now, its worth doing a complet factory default reset of the firmware settings to clear out any possible
[21:24] <TJ-> corruption. The problem with doing that, on UEFI systems, is it will wipe out the boot menu entries for the installed operating systems
[21:25] <lrs> Reset on the bios or ubuntu?
[21:25] <TJ-> lrs: I think that PC is not using/booting with UEFI mode though, so unless you use it for Windows say, you should be fine if you want to try a factory default reset
[21:26] <TJ-> lrs: in the firmware - it just loads the set of config defaults
[21:26] <lrs> TJ-, It has legacy or uefi boot
[21:26] <lrs> I can choose between both, uefi or legacy
[21:26] <TJ-> lrs: and is currently booting for legacy, isn't it?
[21:26] <lrs> If i choose only uefi. It just stucks.
[21:26] <lrs> And if i choose only legacy, it works. So eah
[21:26] <lrs> Yeah
[21:26] <messerting> Hi, I'm running 14.04 LTS, and have a dns problem: My internet connection doesn't work (dns is not resolved). /etc/resolv.conf is a regular file, and contains an nonexisting IP (left from an VPN connection).
[21:26] <messerting> Should I be using dnsmasq or resolvconf?
[21:27] <messerting> I seem to have both installed
[21:27] <TJ-> lrs: OK, if you don't rely on needing the saved UEFI boot menu entries for ANY installed OS, then a factory reset is safe
[21:27] <daftykins> one handles the use of the other
[21:27] <daftykins> messerting: do you have a static IP set, or do you use DHCP?
[21:27] <lrs> How do you ean uefi boot menu entries?
[21:27] <messerting> daftykins: DHCP
[21:27] <lrs> Like, the BIOS settings?
[21:27] <TJ-> messerting: /etc/resolv.conf should be a sym-link to /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[21:27] <messerting> ok, so I should reconfigure resolvconf and say yes to use it?
[21:28] <daftykins> personally i purge resolvconf, reboot, then hardcode resolv.conf :)
[21:28] <daftykins> (e.g. to google DNS or OpenDNS)
[21:28] <TJ-> lrs: UEFI maintains a boot menu, which installed OSs can register with. It gets way from having to have a boot-loader like GRUB intervene, and means installing Windows and Linux alongside each other doesn't have one wipe out the other's boot loader
[21:29] <messerting> daftykins: well, I've set my own opendns in my router, and would like to fetch them from there :)
[21:29] <lrs> TJ-, For me I start up. Then i get to choose to go into BIOS and then after that grub loads
[21:29] <TJ-> messerting: Best to let the system do what it is designed to do. Reset the sym-link correctly and the DNS servers provided by DHCP, or by your manual config, will be used by the private dnsmasq dns cacheing server locally
[21:29] <lrs> There is some sort of weird setting there too...
[21:29] <daftykins> messerting: so just requesting a lease would do.
[21:29] <lrs> But youre saying, there is some factory reset button at start up?
[21:29] <TJ-> lrs: right, because you're using legacy BIOS mode so there is no saved boot entries in the firmware, which is why we need GRUB
[21:30] <TJ-> lrs: in the firmware Setup screens, there will be an option along the lines of "Load Factory Settings", "Load Default Settings"
[21:30] <lrs> Oh, so since its legacy nothing at grub is saved or what?
[21:30] <lrs> TJ-, You mean the bios settings?
[21:30] <messerting> TJ-, daftykins: I'm a bit confused - I have rebooted the laptop several times, but it doesn't solve the problem. Isn't "sudo dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf" the right thing to do? yes?
[21:30] <TJ-> lrs: correct, so if for the sake of argument somehow the firmware has saved a bad settting that is preventing BT from working, reseting to defaults MAY fix it
[21:31] <daftykins> messerting: but TJ- just told you :)
[21:31] <TJ-> messerting: I don't know if that will replace a file with the symlink. Common sense says no, since that might wipe out admin-provided settings.
[21:31] <lrs> TJ-, That would assume i myself have messed with it, no?
[21:32] <TJ-> messerting: best thing to do to be sure is "sudo ln -fs /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf"
[21:32] <lrs> TJ-, http://blog.fpmurphy.com/blog-images/t430sb5.png < Heres what I can work with bascially
[21:32] <TJ-> lrs: No - it would assume there's a bug or 2 in the firmware
[21:32] <lrs> Thats tehe screen
[21:33] <TJ-> lrs bottom-right: "F9 Setup Defaults"!
[21:33] <lrs> Alright, not sure that iwll help but ill do it
[21:33] <lrs> brb
[21:33] <TJ-> lrs: I really think the BT is dead though :)
[21:34] <messerting> TJ-, daftykins: Thanks, I've got my internet connection back! Awesome.
[21:34] <daftykins> you always had it ;)
[21:34] <TJ-> messerting: you just lost the ability to translate names to IP addresses
[21:35] <tsoy_> нет русских?)
[21:35] <messerting> TJ-: yes, sure, I get the difference ;)
[21:36] <lrs> Well, after i did it said "Config changed reboot system", when i started up again and the fan went "poof"
[21:36] <lrs> And I was like "oh no"
[21:36] <lrs> But it seemed to work but did nothing really
[21:36] <TJ-> lrs: I really think the BT is dead though :) We've done everything and had no hint of a BT device
[21:36] <lrs> TJ-, Im gonna do hardware diagnostics, theres that in bios
[21:36] <TJ-> lrs: that, or the cable connecting it is broken
[21:36] <lrs> if they have some bt check hting
[21:36] <lrs> brb
[21:36] <TJ-> Some people never give up hope, its so endearing :)
[21:38] <gambl0re> anyone here have experience with facebook api?
[21:38] <daftykins> gambl0re: NOT on topic for an ubuntu channel.
[21:39] <gambl0re> how would do i find the id of my friends list and to get my friends user id?
[21:40] <lrs> TJ-, https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles/g4uj22us.txt
[21:41] <daftykins> gambl0re: i just said you can't discuss that here, this is a channel for Ubuntu support.
[21:41] <lrs> [Problem fixes]
[21:41] <lrs> - Fixed an issue where integrated Bluetooth device might not be enabled.
[21:41] <lrs> :X
[21:41] <daftykins> lol
[21:41] <lrs> I got 2.57
[21:41] <lrs> Maybe I should giv it a try
[21:41] <daftykins> lrs: well i'll be...
[21:41] <daftykins> yeah definitely
[21:41] <daftykins> i was sceptical before
[21:42] <TJ-> lrs: NOW we find out
[21:43] <lrs> Its aimed at windows, but that might be the case. Im gonna go buy a burnable cd and download hte bios update (cant seem to get it to work on usb)
[21:43] <TJ-> lrs: I hope that's it, it would be good to be able to blame those terrible firmware devs - I swear they've got worse over the years, not better
[21:44] <daftykins> lrs: Lenovos sometimes have a second link that's slightly hidden, which offers an ISO you could put on a flash drive
[21:44] <lrs> Yeah, I got that, but it doesnt seem to put anything on it
[21:44] <lrs> Any ideas?
[21:44] <TJ-> someone point me to the ISO link?
[21:45] <dm_comp> In 15.10 chrome 64 .deb using U. Software Center installs chrome, but when I search for after it can't. This worked for me on 15.04 :(
[21:45] <lrs> https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles/g4uj29us.iso
[21:46] <TJ-> lrs: thanks
[21:47] <lrs> Hmm, maybe it was copied, but the files are hidden?
[21:47] <lrs> I cant see them hidden or not
[21:47] <lrs> It said it copied 33 m but im not sure
[21:48] <lrs> https://workaround.org/article/updating-the-bios-on-lenovo-laptops-from-linux-using-a-usb-flash-stick/
[21:48] <lrs> Thats the one I used
[21:48] <TJ-> lrs: it's a bootable image, not an ISO9660 file system
[21:49] <lrs> Alright, ill reboot and see if it worked. I just assumed there had to be something there, maybe it did work. If it does, lets hope i dont break my ystem haha
[21:50] <TJ-> lrs daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12961475/
[21:51] <daftykins> TJ-: :D
[21:53] <lrs> Nope, that didnt work
[21:53] <lrs> Do i need to format or do something?
[21:53] <soupnanodesukar> How do I install vivid's kernel on 15.10?
[21:54] <daftykins> you wouldn't want to go backwards with kernels.
[21:54] <soupnanodesukar> Pcie-passthrough for virtual machines broke.
[21:54] <TJ-> lrs: daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12961663/
[21:54] <daftykins> lrs: wouldn't hurt to reload BIOS defaults
[21:54] <TJ-> lrs you missed this one earlier, too: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12961475/
[21:54] <daftykins> heh classic DOS based image :>
[21:56] <lrs> g4uj29us.bin: x86 boot sector
[21:56] <lrs> daftykins, Yeah, did that. default settings
[21:56] <TJ-> lrs: so, if you put the image on a USB device it needs to boot in Legacy Hard Disk emulation mode, not CD/DVD ISO9660
[21:57] <lrs> TJ-, Whoa, did you writ eit on a cd?
[21:57] <TJ-> lrs: "sudo dd if=g4uj29us.iso of=/dev/sdZ bs=10M; sync; eject /dev/sdZ" is all that is needed
[21:58] <TJ-> lrs: ISO is a bootable CD/DVD red-book image, using El Torito boot specification, which contains a hard disk emulated image
[21:58] <lrs> Hah, thought so. Looked like you used a cd laying around
[21:59] <lrs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12961857/
[21:59] <TJ-> lrs: firmare will often offer to boot USB devices in several modes: CD emulation, hard disk, or floppy
[21:59] <lrs> sdb is the cateogry? sdb1 is the usb?
[21:59] <TJ-> lrs: given those choices you'll need to choose the Hard Disk emulation option for that image
[21:59] <lrs> Woops
[21:59] <lrs> HMm
[21:59] <TJ-> lrs: I have no CDs; I mounted the image file directly
[21:59] <max1> can anyone help me fix my partitions? I successfuly installed kali and ubuntu alongside windows 8  but don't know how to change sizes
[22:00] <TJ-> lrs: you need to replace the other /dev/sdZ !
[22:00] <lrs> Yep, saw that
[22:00] <TJ-> lrs :)
[22:00] <TJ-> lrs: I do that to stop people wiping their systems accidentially by copying my commands without a though
[22:00] <TJ-> s/though/thought/
[22:00] <bprompt> max1:    define "fix"
[22:00] <lrs> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12961931/
[22:01] <bprompt> max1:   also, you'd want to do any partitioning "before" installing, not the other way around
[22:01] <lrs> Another one used && sync
[22:01] <max1> bprompt:  change the sizes of the installations and their locations (ssd, hdd)
[22:01] <TJ-> lrs: don't worry about the eject. The important part worked
[22:01] <lrs> It did?
[22:01] <lrs> Hmmm
[22:01] <TJ-> lrs: "32878592 bytes (33 MB) copied, 2,04425 s, 16,1 MB/s"
[22:01] <lrs> Right, thats what it said before
[22:01] <TJ-> lrs: the 'sync' following ensured the data was flushed to the USB device before you removed it
[22:02] <lrs> Can i check the uhm, harddisk thing?
[22:02] <lrs> So it knows its bootable or what you said?
[22:02] <lrs>  if you put the image on a USB device it needs to boot in Legacy Hard Disk emulation mode, not CD/DVD ISO9660
[22:02] <lrs> brb, ill try with this
[22:02] <TJ-> lrs: "sudo partprobe /dev/sdb; sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/tmp; ls -altr /mnt/tmp; sudo umount /dev/sdb1"
[22:03] <TJ-> I swear he does that deliberately!!
[22:04] <lrs> Same thing again. I go temp bootup device -> usb name
[22:04] <lrs> Flickers and goes back
[22:04] <TJ-> lrs: hmmm.
[22:04] <TJ-> lrs: "sudo partprobe /dev/sdb; sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/tmp; ls -altr /mnt/tmp; sudo umount /dev/sdb1"
[22:04] <TJ-> lrs: does that show you the files
[22:04] <lrs> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12962093/
[22:06] <TJ-> lrs: Was the USB device not plugged in?
[22:06] <lrs> Its plugged in
[22:06] <TJ-> lrs: not as sdb then? "sudo lsblk -f"
[22:07] <lrs> its as sdb
[22:07] <lrs> Before it was sdb ---\_ sdb1
[22:07] <lrs> Now its just sdb. Humm
[22:07] <TJ-> lrs: the image didn't write correctly then
[22:10] <lrs> TJ-, "Hi, there is easy way, install grub-imageboot, put iso file in /boot/images, update-grub, reboot. From grub menu select your iso file."
[22:10] <lrs> http://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/upgrading-lenovo-thinkpad-bios-under-linux/
[22:10] <lrs> What do you think about that?
[22:12] <TJ-> lrs, I've been testing the image in a virtual machine. It doesn't start
[22:12] <TJ-> Well would you credit it... gone again!
[22:16] <lrs> Hmm, didnt work
[22:16] <TJ-> lrs ... I have it booting as a CD/DVD image but not as a hard disk image
[22:16] <lrs> I did cp
[22:16] <lrs> but if i look in boot
[22:17] <lrs> images is a file? :S
[22:18] <lrs> TJ-, Weird
[22:19] <TJ-> lrs: this is what it looks like if it boots: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/LenovoT530UEFIUpdate.png
[22:19] <lrs> Cool
[22:19] <TJ-> lrs: it definitely will only boot in CD/DVD emulation mode though
[22:20] <lrs> I see. I tried that image thing, so now i have a images file thing in /boot
[22:20] <lrs> Is that ok or bad?
[22:20] <TJ-> lrs: it might work, but I've never needed to go that far to get a DVD image to boot from a USB
[22:21] <lrs> TJ-, Nah, i decided that im not gonna try it. Im gonna go get a cheap burnable cd, update it and if doesnt work im getting an adapter
[22:22] <jeh72> hi, I'm running 14.04.3 and I'm trying to unload the pulseaudio module "module-suspend-on-idle".  When I do this though, I get no sound output and videos do not play.  Any ideas?
[22:22] <jeh72> This seems to work fine on newer versions of pulseaudio, like in fedora 22
[22:22] <lrs> TJ-, http://imgur.com/xSFkIfQ Just wondering if i can delete that or if its really bad
[22:24] <TJ-> delete what?
[22:25] <lrs> TJ-, "images"
[22:26] <TJ-> lrs: is that something you created?
[22:26] <lrs> Im not sure
[22:26] <lrs> If i created it or if its already there
[22:26] <TJ-> lrs: you can do "sudo rm /boot/images" if so. If you don't know what it is, check: "ls -latr /boot/images; file /boot/images"
[22:26] <lrs> I used cp to move the file, not sure if it was there before
[22:27] <lrs> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 32878592 okt 25 23:14 /boot/images
[22:27] <lrs> /boot/images: # ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'G4UJ29US' (bootable)
[22:28] <lrs> Guess that menas it was created 25 okt and thats the only thing in it
[22:28] <TJ-> lrs: OK, so you renamed during the copy of the file
[22:28] <TJ-> lrs: lrs might be better to give it a recognisable name if you're going to use it
[22:28] <lrs> hmm?
[22:29] <daftykins> lenovo.iso :P
[22:29] <TJ-> lrs: e.g.  "sudo mv /boot/images /boot/g4uj29us.iso"
[22:29] <TJ-> lrs: then "sudo update-grub" and that should add it to the grub menu apparently
[22:29] <EriC^^> for real?
[22:30] <EriC^^> no grub.d/ modifying?
[22:30] <lrs> Ok, now i did a mkdir there
[22:31] <TJ-> lrs: It'd be much easier to sort out the USB device. show me "pastebinit <( lsblk ) "
[22:31] <soupnanodesukar> ok, I can confirm that the pcie passthrough bug is not present with kernel 4.0.9
[22:31] <lrs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12962835/
[22:31] <hubma> hello, I cannot find the folder for evolution mail client, could you help me know where it is please?
[22:31] <lrs> update-grub "found iso image"
[22:31] <soupnanodesukar> However it is still present with the latest kernel from unstable.
[22:31] <lrs> brb :P
[22:32] <TJ-> lrs: so the USB has been auto-mounted.
[22:32] <TJ-> Grrrr
[22:32] <TJ-> Someone pin lrs to the seat!
[22:33] <inteus> lol
[22:33] <daftykins> i hate it when they walk away
[22:35] <lrs> TJ-, The img booted, but when i tried system update it froze
[22:35] <TJ-> lrs: I think that is because it needs to boot without GRUB getting in first
[22:35] <lrs> Yeah, i think so oto
[22:35] <TJ-> lrs: I was about to show you how to get the USB written correctly, but you zoomed off :D
[22:35] <lrs> Oh nice
[22:35] <TJ-> lrs: is the USB device still /dev/sdb?
[22:36] <lrs> Yes
[22:36] <ichery> I need to secure my ubuntu 14.04 server and need to know if UFW is a good option or not?
[22:36] <TJ-> lrs: is it mounted? if so, unmount it: "mount | grep sdb" - then do "udisksctl unmount --block-device /dev/sdb" then check "mount | grep sdb"
[22:37] <lrs> Worked
[22:37] <lrs> Unmounted
[22:37] <TJ-> lrs: "sudo apt-get install genisoimage"
[22:37] <lrs>  Got it
[22:37] <TJ-> lrs: identify which directory the "g4uj29us.iso" is in, and 'cd'  into it
[22:38] <TJ-> lrs: Now "geteltorito -i g4uj29us.bin g4uj29us.iso" then "ls -l g4uj29us.*" should show you 2 files
[22:38] <lrs> Alright
[22:39] <TJ-> lrs: you have 'g4uj29us.bin' ?
[22:39] <lrs> lenovo.iso
[22:39] <lrs> Do you want a bin file
[22:39] <lrs> I have bin and im
[22:39] <lrs> img
[22:39] <lrs> *iso and img
[22:39] <lrs> Oh no
[22:39] <lrs> I got an bin
[22:39] <lrs> Got it
[22:39] <TJ-> if you ran the command I gave you, you should have g4uj29us.bin
[22:40] <lrs> Yeah i have one
[22:40] <TJ-> lrs: "sudo fdd if=g4uj29us.bin of=/dev/sdb bs=10M && sync"
[22:40] <TJ-> grrr s/fdd/dd/
[22:41] <lrs> sudo fdd if=g4uj29us.bin of=/dev/sdb bs=10M && sync
[22:41] <lrs> "sudo dd if=g4uj29us.bin of=/dev/sdb bs=10M && sync ??
[22:41] <TJ-> lrs: typo... not fdd but dd
[22:41] <lrs> TJ-, Did the same command first time, but with 8M
[22:42] <TJ-> lrs: now do "sudo partprobe /dev/sdb"
[22:42] <lrs> Done, it gave me the same thing as before when i did it the first time
[22:42] <lrs> Ok, done
[22:42] <TJ-> lrs: now do "sudo mkdir /mnt/tmp; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/tmp; ls -latr /mnt/tmp; sudo umount /dev/sdb1"
[22:43] <TJ-> lrs you should see the list of DOS files from the image, like I showed you earlier
[22:43] <lrs> Nice
[22:43] <lrs> Now we got some dos files
[22:43] <lrs> This looks promising
[22:43] <TJ-> lrs: like this list: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12961663/
[22:43] <lrs> Yep, exaclty the same
[22:43] <pouet12345> hello
[22:43] <lrs> Should i reboot and give it a try<?
[22:43] <bprompt_> allo
[22:43] <TJ-> lrs: OK, you're good to reboot with it now
[22:43] <lrs> Lets hope i dont brick it haha
[22:44] <pouet12345> is normal that I don't get a proposed upgrade to 15.10 for my 14.04 ?
[22:44] <pouet12345> it
[22:44] <k1l> pouet12345: yes
[22:44] <popey> pouet12345, you never will.
[22:44] <inteus> pouet12345: 15.10 needs to be a fresh install if you're going from 14.04
[22:44] <k1l> pouet12345: you cant upgrade to 15.10 directly. you can only go 14.04-14.10-15.04-15.10 or you go the LTS path when 16.04 is released: 14.04 to 16.04
[22:45] <OerHeks> all correct answers.
[22:46] <pouet12345> lol
[22:46] <pouet12345> ok I though it was a lts
[22:46] <pouet12345> but i guess the cycke changed
[22:46] <pouet12345> cycle
[22:46] <pouet12345> I will wait then
[22:47] <k1l> pouet12345: LTS was always every second year: 10.04, 12.04, 14.04, 16.04
[22:47] <pouet12345> To bad I duplicated my lvm install for nothing
[22:47] <pouet12345> k1l, okay
[22:47] <pouet12345> it's ok any way the partition is created then
[22:48] <pouet12345> the logical volume I mean
[22:49] <pouet12345> or maybe I can have fun an upgrade 14.04 -> 15.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10
[22:49] <pouet12345> 14.04 -> 14.10 -> 15.04 -> 15.10
[22:50] <wileee> pouet12345, upgrading through eol's is best avoided
[22:50] <pouet12345> wileee, what ?
[22:50] <OerHeks> sure you going to have fun, though you cannot upgrade in steps without the oldrelease-trick too.
[22:50] <kostkon> !eol
[22:50] <wileee> pouet12345, Instead of what try googling ubuntu eol, use your brain. ;)(
[22:51] <k1l> pouet12345: if you have that sparetime, give it a go :)
[22:51] <pouet12345> ok you mean my 14.04 packages might be earlier than 14.10
[22:51] <__Myst__> Hi guys
[22:51] <__Myst__> I ahve a weird question
[22:51] <__Myst__> are dynamic ips a default thing
[22:51] <__Myst__> orrr
[22:51] <__Myst__> do I need to enable them somewhere in my router settings
[22:51] <Ben64> !enter | __Myst__
[22:51] <__Myst__> my pc settings
[22:51] <pouet12345> or something like that
[22:51] <k1l> pouet12345: but read about eolupgrades and keep in mind that its 3 upgrades so it really take som time and bandwith
[22:52] <__Myst__> Ben64: Sorry, don't kill me. I don't usuall type like that
[22:52] <__Myst__> usually*
[22:52] <vfw> __Myst__: Routers do dynamic IPs by default
[22:52] <__Myst__> well
[22:52] <__Myst__> How can I check if mine uses a dynamic ip or not? Disconnect/reconnect off the network?
[22:52] <wileee> __Myst__, Try not to here, you will not get help from some if you post this way.
[22:52] <vfw> __Myst__: Do you meen for the outside IP connection?
[22:52] <Ben64> log into your router and check
[22:52] <bprompt_> __Myst__:    there's no extra charge for typing more than 30 characters per line, use as many as you need, hint: the enter key isn't a punctuation character
[22:52] <pouet12345> k1l, bandwith is really not an issue. I have fiber. But time would not be an issue in case of automatic updates that go well, howver, I expecte it breaks.
[22:52] <__Myst__> vfw: Public ip
[22:53] <pouet12345> at some point
[22:53] <OerHeks> 15.04 changed to systemd, maybe a good reason to choose fresh install
[22:53] <__Myst__> Not local, tbh I don't really care for having a static local ip
[22:53] <vfw> __Myst__: Depends on your ISP.  You set your router as per ISP's instructions.
[22:54] <ycon_> HI all, I just removed a folder with "rm -r foldername". Did that actually delete the files/sub dirs? Or should I have done -rf?
[22:54] <k1l> pouet12345: i dont expect it to break. upgrades are automated tested. so if you did not change too much it might just run through
[22:54] <vfw> __Myst__: If you are wondering if you have a dedicated outsite IP; Not likely.  You usually pay extra for that.
[22:54] <lrs_> TJ-, Well, didnt work. But i put on defaults for win8 and now i got an up-to-date BIOS :P
[22:54] <bprompt_> ycon_:     it did, yes, the -f it's just to suppress prompting
[22:54] <lrs_> Also, i wonder, is the windows 2012 boot thing still there or is it reset each time?
[22:54] <ycon_> cheers
[22:54] <TJ-> lrs_: And where's Bluetooth status now?
[22:55] <lrs_> What was the term command?
[22:55] <TJ-> lrs_: it's a once-only thing until you add it to /etc/default/grub
[22:55] <vfw> __Myst__: Your outside IP may or may not change if you restart router.  Many ISPs in the US use shared IP
[22:55] <lrs_> Ah
[22:55] <TJ-> lrs_: do you want to add it to the config?
[22:55] <pouet12345> k1l, ok thanks
[22:55] <lrs_> TJ-, No, i was just wondering if the grub update etched it there
[22:56] <lrs_> I doubt it would change anything would it
[22:56] <lrs_> Or?
[22:56] <__Myst__> vfw: Well, can I request an IP change?
[22:56] <lrs_> Bluetooth is as usual, not sure if i can find anything in the terminal
[22:56] <Ben64> __Myst__: you need to talk to your isp
[22:57] <__Myst__> Ben64: Can't I just type `get me a new ip` into the console? lol.
[22:57] <__Myst__> (terminal*)
[22:57] <Ben64> __Myst__: perhaps you can ask your questions in ##networking but i don't see how your issue is related to ubuntu at all
[22:57] <TJ-> lrs_:  "sudo sed 's/\(GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=".*\)\("\)/\1 \\"acpi_osi=Windows 2012\\"\2/' /etc/default/grub  " then "sudo update-grub" if you want to add it
[22:57] <__Myst__> Ben64: well, my question was a "how can I check"
[22:58] <Ben64> yeah, a ##networking question
[22:59] <__Myst__> thanks
[22:59] <vfw> __Myst__: As he said, you'd have to call your ISP, or figure out what deal you have.
[23:06] <owner> hello
[23:07] <bprompt_> allo Guest20882
[23:07] <elosz> Hello.There are few doubts which have been bothering me. What does mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/lower mean exactly?
[23:07] <monika2> It mounts the device /dev/sda1 (might be a usb stick) into the directory /mnt/lower so that you can access it from your file system
[23:08] <monika2> Could also be another hard drive inside your computer, or an external hard drive
[23:08] <elosz> okay monika2 ..now what if i do mount -t myfs /mnt/lower /mnt/myfs
[23:08] <bprompt_> elosz:     mount "device path"  "to this folder"
[23:09] <elosz> okay bprompt_ ..what about 2nd part?
[23:09] <EriC^^> elosz: looks like a syntax error
[23:09] <elosz> not really..it works EriC^^
[23:09] <bprompt_> elosz:    same, just more explicit using the -t argument to specify which filesystem to load it as
[23:09] <EriC^^> mount /path /path2 ?
[23:10] <EriC^^> elosz: or you mean mount -t /device /path ?
[23:10] <EriC^^> * -t myfs /device...
[23:10] <elosz> bprompt_: but /mnt/lower already has ext3 (assume /dev/sda1 is ext3)
[23:11] <elosz> EriC^^: mount -t myfs /mnt/lower /mnt/myfs
[23:11] <EriC^^> it wont work
[23:11] <EriC^^> mount: /boot/efi is not a block device
[23:11] <EriC^^> i tried sudo mount -t vfat /boot/efi /mnt
[23:11] <elosz> it does..i tried
[23:11] <Ben64> mount --bind /mnt/lower /mnt/myfs would work
[23:11] <bprompt_> elosz:     so..... anything wrong there?
[23:11] <EriC^^> must have a different command
[23:11] <Ben64> but EriC^^ is correct
[23:13] <elosz> myfs is stackable file system
[23:13] <elosz> bprompt_: so i am confused which is ext3 and which would be myfs
[23:13] <millerti> I upgraded to Vivid from the previous version, and now a ton of stuff is missing.  It boots up, complains about init missing, and drops me to bash.  Assuming I can use apt-get, which meta-package do I need to install to make sure I have my base system intact, including things like init?  Is that ubuntu-standard?  And what option do I give to apt-get to make sure they all get installed?  "--reinstall"?
[23:13] <monika2> so now the device is available under two different path names ... what's the issue/question?
[23:14] <wileee> millerti, Have you tried all the kernels in the grub menu?
[23:14] <monika2> It is whatever file system is really on the device, I think ... because what else could it be?
[23:14] <bprompt_> elosz:     I gather ... we don't quite follow what you're asking.... are you saying   sda1 is ext3 already, and you can just mount it with any arbitrary filetype you can just make up?  like -t myfs?
[23:15] <elosz> bprompt_:  sda1 is ext3.. myfs is stackable file system..it intercepts all read/write calls to ext3. It is NOT a block device
[23:16] <elosz> bprompt_: so ext3 is lower level and myfs is above that
[23:16] <Ben64> elosz: so you made up a filesystem to mess with us? what are you asking
[23:16] <elosz> lol Ben64 no. http://wrapfs.filesystems.org/
[23:16] <millerti> wileee:  I'll have to try that, but there literally is no /sbin/init or /bin/init or anything.
[23:17] <bprompt_> elosz:    see... we don't quite follow what's the matter :/
[23:17] <millerti> wileee, During the upgrade, some critical packages didn't get installed properly.
[23:17] <wileee> millerti, with that kernel being read right?
[23:17] <millerti> There isn't even a "reboot" command.
[23:17] <Ben64> elosz: so yes, you're messing with us
[23:17] <wileee> millerti, Ah errors, can we see them, or get some detail?
[23:17] <millerti> wileee:  How can the kernel make some system commands not exist?  Or do you think I'm dropped into a busybox instead?
[23:18] <elosz> bprompt_:  and Ben64 : http://faculty.cs.nku.edu/~waldenj/classes/2007/spring/csc660/labs/lab9.html
[23:18] <millerti> wileee:  It was complaining about some packages, like nfsserver or something not being configured, and some other packages not having their dependencies met.
[23:18] <wileee> millerti, I think your guessing and every answer is a question, this makes it impossible to help. ;)
[23:18] <Ben64> elosz: so what are you asking!!!
[23:18] <elosz> should help you understand it and explain it to me better:)
[23:18] <elosz> Ben64: I am confused about which directory is associated with which file system!
[23:18] <Ben64> elosz: go read the docs
[23:18] <millerti> wileee:  Basically, since I've rebooted the system, I'm just in repair mode here.  I need to figure out what packages need to be reinstalled to get the base system functional again, so I have things like "init" and such.
[23:19] <elosz> Ben64: aready done that
[23:19] <elosz> but still I am confused, hence asking
[23:19] <lrs> TJ-, when i pressed ctrl c it went into a grub command line :S
[23:19] <Ben64> elosz: its not part of ubuntu so its not supported here, try emailing the developer
[23:19] <millerti> wileee: This is why I was asking if installing ubuntu-standard was the right thing to do?  Will "apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-standard" get me things like init?
[23:19] <wileee> millerti, If you can get to a cli try sudo apt-get -f install and share this with us, the command is to finish installs.
[23:19] <monika2> man mount says about the -t parameter: "For  most  types  all  the  mount  program  has  to  do is issue a simple mount(2) system call, and no detailed knowledge of the filesystem type is  required.  For a few types however (like nfs, nfs4, cifs, smbfs, ncpfs) ad hoc code is necessary. The nfs, nfs4, cifs, smbfs, and ncpfs filesystems
[23:19] <monika2>  have  a  separate  mount program." So I think it means for most types it doesn't matter which file system you specify of if you specify any at all, it just calls the standard mount program. Only for the few file systems where a separate mount program has to be called it matters.
[23:19] <millerti> wileee:  Oh, sweet.  I'll try that,.
[23:20] <elosz> Ben64: it doesn't really have to do with ubuntu. It is mainly related to mounting
[23:20] <Ben64> elosz: exactly, so it doesn't belong in #ubuntu
[23:20] <daftykins> monika2: what are you working on? booted your flash drive fine?
[23:20] <wileee> millerti, you can install pastebinit and you can have commands show a url for us to see it if you like.
[23:20] <bprompt_> elosz:    those options seem to be based on that specific package though, I'm afraid, the issue is more like a wrapfs issue, than a mounting one per se
[23:20] <elosz> okay bprompt_
[23:21] <TJ-> elosz: wrapfs is doing the same thing as ecryptfs does, that's another stackable FS which is used a lot in Ubuntu
[23:21] <wileee> !pastebinit | millerti I suspect this will be helpful.
[23:21] <elosz> TJ-: yea! I am just trying to understand the mount part as given here : http://faculty.cs.nku.edu/~waldenj/classes/2007/spring/csc660/labs/lab9.html
[23:22] <millerti> wileee:  I see things like this:
[23:22] <millerti> W:  Not using locking for read only lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[23:22] <millerti> W: Unable to write to /var/cache/apt/
[23:22] <wileee> millerti, Have you tried to run an update?
[23:22] <millerti> E:  The page lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[23:22] <millerti> That second one was an E:
[23:23] <millerti> It appears that I have a read-only root file system.
[23:23] <millerti> I'm not impressed by Ubuntu distribution upgrades.
[23:23] <Jordan_U> millerti: Do you have all of your important data backed up?
[23:23] <millerti> Jordan_U:  Well, it's on a separate disk array.
[23:24] <wileee> millerti, Ah, If it were me I would use the backup and do a fresh install, however that is me, great help through here to get beyond this. A read only I have no idea is all.
[23:24] <millerti> wileee:  Yeah.  I can mount an ISO via IPMI and do an install.
[23:24] <Jordan_U> millerti: Have you checked the S.M.A.R.T. status of your drive? Also, separate from this one issue, but I hope that you do have backups in a addition to your array, in case that goes down.
[23:25] <millerti> smartctl, it says, isn't installed.  The root drive is an enterprise SSD.
[23:25] <ichery> I need to secure my ubuntu 14.04 server and need to know if UFW is a good option or not?
[23:26] <lrs> TJ-, Well. I hit c instead of x. But yeah, didnt owkr
[23:26] <daftykins> millerti: smartctl is provided by smartmontools
[23:26] <millerti> Jordan_U: I've been asking for a backup solution since 2013.  I tell everyone to keep copies of stuff elsewhere.  Almost all of my critical files are in git repos that I have elsewhere.
[23:26] <lrs> TJ-, I did find something called "handset controller" and the motherboard was perfect diagnostics wise
[23:26] <Ben64> ichery: ufw is good at being a firewall
[23:26] <lrs> So, its something fishy atleasatg
[23:26] <lrs> BUt im giving up :p
[23:26] <Jordan_U> millerti: Can you boot from a LiveCD then check the S.M.A.R.T status and then check the filesystem with fsck? (Do *not* run fsck until you have determined that the hard drive isn't failing).
[23:26] <TJ-> lrs: So Windows didn't see a BT device either?
[23:26] <millerti> I can't install any packages as long as the root filesystem is readonly, so I have to go google that.  However, for the next 10 minutes or so I have to help get the kids into bed.
[23:27] <lrs> TJ-, Windows? No, the bios diagnostics
[23:27] <lrs> Wait ill show you
[23:27] <Gerowen> ichery: UFW is fine, you can even use the graphical frontend GUFW to configure it if you've got a user interface installed.
[23:27] <ichery> Thanks Ben64
[23:27] <TJ-> lrs: Ahhh... but I thought you said earlier you used Windows to do the BIOS update? So does Windows see the BT device ?
[23:27] <millerti> Jordan_U:  Ok.  I'm going to use the IPMI interface to hook up the ISO of an Ubuntu 15.10 install disk and run it in recovery mode to check stuff out before I try an OS install.
[23:27] <lrs> Hmm? How do you mean use windows? Just used the usb
[23:28] <lrs> I got a diagnostics tool in the bios or whatever
[23:28] <TJ-> lrs: this was what I recalled you saying: "lrs_ | TJ-, Well, didnt work. But i put on defaults for win8 and now i got an up-to-date BIOS :P"
[23:29] <ichery> Thanks guys.. I running Pydio cloud on top of it. Do I need https and certs?
[23:29] <millerti> Thanks for the suggestions!
[23:29] <lrs> TJ-, Oh, what I meant was that there is a option in bios where you choose "UEFI OS blah blah optimised for Win8" or "Legacy for non os"
[23:29] <TJ-> lrs: Ahhhh!
[23:29] <lrs> If i pick uefi i can do secure boot and blah blah
[23:30] <TJ-> lrs: does the system have Windows on that is bootable? If so, have you tried it?
[23:30] <lrs> http://i.imgur.com/6CfxL2j.jpg < Wireless handset control sounds alot like bluetooth to me
[23:30] <lrs> TJ-, No, i only have ubuntu on it
[23:30] <TJ-> lrs! you have the device ID there! We can check what that is!
[23:31] <lrs> Cool
[23:31] <lrs> How?
[23:32] <TJ-> lrs: OK, that's the Cellular modem
[23:33] <lrs> Ah
[23:33] <lrs> brb, i saw another there
[23:36] <rbys> what the fuck, ubuntu freeze/crash when I'm modifying the volume when mpv/flash/whatever is in fullscreen
[23:37] <rbys> i had to kill the fucking x session
[23:37] <rbys> anyone had that issue before?
[23:37] <rbys> cna't really find any bug report beside https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76321
[23:37] <daftykins> rbys: that language is not appropriate here, please keep it family friendly :)
[23:42] <lrs> imgur.com/KHtnSu1
[23:43] <lrs> http://imgur.com/tFqza6e
[23:43] <lrs> imgur.com/9l8ujlY
[23:44] <lrs> imgur.com/e6PH1Al
[23:44] <TJ-> lrs: those are all the PCI devices; look for picture with USB devices listed
[23:46] <TJ-> lrs: this is the cellular device: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Ericsson_H5321_gw_Mobile_Broadband_Module
[23:46] <lrs> http://imgur.com/tQFgy0q
[23:46] <lrs> Hmmmm
[23:46] <rbys> okay
[23:46] <lrs> Usb you said
[23:46] <rbys> ubuntu is still a piece of s***
[23:46] <lrs> Gonna check if it was someone that was not occupied
[23:47] <daftykins> rbys: you have been warned, even obfuscated bad language is not acceptable here.
[23:47] <rbys> unless someone can help me figure out why my x session hang/freeze by raising or lowering the volume
[23:48] <OerHeks> nice way of asking volunteers.
[23:48] <inteus> such attitude
[23:49] <OerHeks> file a proper bugreport, during making of that report it shows possible simular reports
[23:49] <OerHeks> !bug
[23:50] <Jordan_U> rbys: Please pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and the output of "dmesg".
[23:51] <lrs> TJ-, So a bluetooth device isnt a pci one? didnt know that
[23:51] <lrs> The only one that wasnt audio video was this one
[23:53] <lrs> TJ-, http://imgur.com/Mvg9n14
[23:54] <olav1234> hello, i just accidentally removed openssh-server from my server, and now pubkey authentication does not work anymore, can someone help?
[23:55] <EriC^^> olav1234: did you reinstall openssh?
[23:55] <TJ-> lrs: Nothing at all, so it's likely dead as I suspected all along
[23:55] <olav1234> of course
[23:55] <lrs> Weird that the motherboard status doesnt say anything
[23:56] <EriC^^> olav1234: type grep PubkeyAuthentication /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[23:56] <lrs> TJ-, Thanks alot for the help though, appreciate it alot
[23:56] <lrs> Im gonna go buy a adapter probably
[23:56] <olav1234> "PubkeyAuth.." Yes
[23:56] <lrs> But now i got a top notch bios
[23:56] <olav1234> as it should be
[23:56] <TJ-> lrs: Right. If it were me i'd get the model number of the existing device and try and get a spare on ebay :)
[23:56] <EriC^^> olav1234: no comment at the start of it right?
[23:57] <Rexter> lrs: I just walked in, what's going on?
[23:57] <olav1234> nope
[23:57] <lrs> Rexter, Well, TJ- helped me over the course of some hour with my bluetooth device not showing up in ubuntu
[23:57] <EriC^^> olav1234: try ssh -vvv user@host
[23:58] <EriC^^> it should give more info about what's going on
[23:58] <Rexter> lrs: did you come up with anything?
[23:58] <TJ-> lrs: you've seen te Monty Python Dead Parrot sketch? This was the Dead Bluetooth sketch :)
[23:58] <lrs> First thought was that it was some kind of win exclusive thing, because of lenovos wirelesss switch
[23:58] <olav1234> yeah, i got a wall of text
[23:58] <EriC^^> can you pastebin it?
[23:58] <olav1234> ill se if there is something interesting there
[23:58] <lrs> But we now think its just dead
[23:58] <olav1234> sure
[23:58] <lrs> TJ-, Haha I think i have, gonna look it up
[23:59] <TJ-> lrs: I do wonder if that firmware update didn't clear the non-volatile RAM config, and might be why the firmware update didn't solve the issue reported in the changelog
[23:59] <olav1234> here http://pastebin.com/autibEvZ
[23:59] <Rexter> lrs: is it built in, or USB?
[23:59] <lrs> How do you mean? non volatile ram config?