| knome | hah | 08:09 |
|---|---|---|
| ochosi | morning all | 10:59 |
| flocculant | morning ochosi | 11:00 |
| ochosi | how's everything? | 11:00 |
| flocculant | pretty weekendy :P | 11:00 |
| ochosi | :] | 11:01 |
| flocculant | you? | 11:03 |
| ochosi | in between having a day off and actually working on stuff :) | 11:04 |
| ochosi | interesting feeling i haven't had for a while | 11:04 |
| ochosi | atm i'm hacking on LO a bit | 11:04 |
| ochosi | (realizing how long it takes to build, even if it's an incremental build with ccache) | 11:05 |
| flocculant | :) | 11:05 |
| ochosi | so hopefully i'll get us some tiny improvements today | 11:05 |
| ochosi | but yeah, no promises ;) | 11:05 |
| flocculant | I've got a check of all the testcases done now - so they should be ready soon to start pushing that | 11:06 |
| ochosi | cool | 11:06 |
| flocculant | probably going to not do so much iso calling this cycle unless there's a reason - still hoping that the autotest effort will work | 11:07 |
| flocculant | apart from milestones | 11:07 |
| ochosi | yeah, now that i'm actually using jenkins at work i'm more and more convinced that we need to make use of it | 11:07 |
| flocculant | ochosi: well - the reason we aren't is because it doesn't actually work atm :p | 11:08 |
| ochosi | yeah, i guess we'd need to write unit tests for our apps | 11:11 |
| flocculant | oh right | 11:12 |
| flocculant | I see | 11:12 |
| flocculant | THAT again :p | 11:12 |
| ochosi | then things could be tested automatically and you'd see with each build whether everything still works | 11:12 |
| flocculant | we stopped because gtk2 mostly | 11:12 |
| ochosi | but since there are no unit tests in xfce, we're pretty much on our own there | 11:12 |
| knome | fortunately we can also upstream stuff and help xfce | 11:12 |
| flocculant | instrospection fails with gtk2 apparently | 11:12 |
| ochosi | yeah, tbh i haven't looked at autopilot | 11:13 |
| ochosi | knome: sure, but then again it also needs to be ported to gtk3 (and it's not like xfce things break all the time and we *desperately* need unit tests) | 11:13 |
| knome | :) | 11:13 |
| ochosi | so it's a question of priorities imo | 11:13 |
| slickymaster | !team ! the xenial branch for the docs is created and the development focus is changed to the new branch | 11:19 |
| ubottu | slickymaster: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 11:19 |
| slickymaster | !team | the xenial branch for the docs is created and the development focus is changed to the new branch | 11:19 |
| ubottu | the xenial branch for the docs is created and the development focus is changed to the new branch: bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit193 | 11:19 |
| knome | ahhah | 11:19 |
| slickymaster | don't laugh knome | 11:19 |
| knome | :X | 11:19 |
| slickymaster | just got home, without sleeping :P | 11:19 |
| slickymaster | knome, want to check it, please? | 11:20 |
| slickymaster | just to make sure everything is alright | 11:20 |
| knome | ok ok :P | 11:20 |
| flocculant | why's there a utopic at https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-docs ? | 11:21 |
| knome | slickymaster, should be set now | 11:23 |
| knome | flocculant, for your viewing pleasure, sir | 11:23 |
| knome | flocculant, fixed | 11:24 |
| slickymaster | teah, you beat me to it knome | 11:24 |
| knome | of course | 11:24 |
| slickymaster | lol | 11:24 |
| flocculant | sad - miss it already :p | 11:34 |
| SwissBot | feed xubuntu-docs had 16 updates, showing the latest 3 | 11:42 |
| bluesabre | morning all | 12:38 |
| bluesabre | dkessel, knome: I agree that we should refresh the community wallpapers for xenial | 12:38 |
| bluesabre | announcing that early might help get better ones in the long run | 12:38 |
| bluesabre | I feel like we started that a bit late in trusty, maybe not | 12:39 |
| Unit193 | Except all the effort, of course. :P | 12:39 |
| bluesabre | well yeah | 12:39 |
| bluesabre | we can also have more people in the team help narrow it down | 12:39 |
| bluesabre | I don't remember how we submitted them before, but I can help with submission/comparison tools | 12:41 |
| Unit193 | I remember embedding the copyright info into each image. | 12:41 |
| bluesabre | so we create some web tools that require that information on submission | 12:42 |
| Unit193 | Overkill? | 12:42 |
| bluesabre | maybe | 12:42 |
| bluesabre | somebody else (elementary maybe) might already have such a tool | 12:42 |
| bluesabre | maybe I'll crank something like that out one weekend and toss it up on my github | 12:45 |
| ochosi | hey bluesabre | 12:46 |
| bluesabre | hey ochosi | 12:46 |
| ochosi | well, tbh the community wallpapers are something at least i personally don't want tobe responsible for | 12:46 |
| ochosi | if even a project like ubuntu only gets 40 submissions per cycle, you can imagine how many we will get | 12:47 |
| ochosi | and the last time the percentage of good submissions that were not triggered by us (or me) getting in touch directly with artists was extremely low | 12:47 |
| bluesabre | right | 12:47 |
| ochosi | so basically our current set is the result of me contacting artists... | 12:48 |
| ochosi | that was what made it laborious | 12:48 |
| bluesabre | so we improve the submission process so post-submission contacts are reduced | 12:48 |
| ochosi | and another caveat is that if we announce a contest we should really put some contenders in the final image | 12:48 |
| ochosi | but what if the submissions are not good..? | 12:48 |
| ochosi | but yeah, those are my 2cents on this | 12:49 |
| bluesabre | we include the existing ones in the competition | 12:49 |
| ochosi | if somebody else is motivated to take it on, i'm all for it | 12:49 |
| bluesabre | otherwise the community wallpapers are just the community wallpapers from years ago | 12:49 |
| ochosi | and yeah, naturally i agree, they should be refreshed | 12:49 |
| bluesabre | and thats lame :D | 12:49 |
| ochosi | right | 12:49 |
| bluesabre | just a few thoughts on it, I'll leave it be now :) | 12:50 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: tags - possibly a case of too many options - but we have xubuntu-exp as the base tag, ppa for things reported obviously - maybe add usability - that perhaps we could add to a report once reported *idea* | 16:09 |
| flocculant | also can we get staging xenial ppa | 16:10 |
| flocculant | Unit193: not sure what you think about the things in extra - but that could do with xenial too - I at least use xfdashboard a bit | 16:11 |
| bluesabre | bluesabre: will take a look at updating the PPAs today | 17:19 |
| bluesabre | somehow, I would argue the expected behavior described here would not be the expected behavior, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/1509805 | 17:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1509805 in thunar (Ubuntu) "right click drag&drop menu's missing" [Undecided,New] | 17:20 |
| bluesabre | :\ | 17:20 |
| flocculant | I would expect left click drag - not sure why I would ever expect right click - unless I had swapped mouse buttons - to do more than give me a menu | 17:24 |
| flocculant | nor have I ever seen a menu while dragging | 17:25 |
| bluesabre | yup | 17:26 |
| bluesabre | thats not normal usability | 17:27 |
| flocculant | bluesabre has six months of these bugs to come :p | 17:27 |
| bluesabre | flocculant: yay | 17:27 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: yea - totally agreed | 17:27 |
| flocculant | and that :p | 17:27 |
| * bluesabre looks forward to responding to lots of bug reports | 17:28 | |
| bluesabre | gotta run, bbabl | 17:28 |
| dkessel | b | 17:50 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: Yeah I was going to bump the ones in extra. | 18:31 |
| flocculant | Unit193: k - I did kind of assume you would be :) | 18:38 |
| Unit193 | !info xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin | 18:47 |
| ubottu | Package xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin does not exist in wily | 18:47 |
| Unit193 | !info xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin xenial | 18:47 |
| ubottu | 'xenial' is not a valid distribution: kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed | 18:47 |
| Unit193 | flocculant: Anywho, important ones done. | 18:52 |
| flocculant | Unit193: cheers | 19:58 |
| dkessel | mhh. in wily, when locking the screen for a while, i get this window prompting me for my user credentials because i would want my own user data... which i do not want :p | 20:09 |
| dkessel | the "details" say: action: org.freedesktop.accounts.change-own-user-data | 20:10 |
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