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| * Guest42341 What a fine day for science! | 04:46 | |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:27 |
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| clobrano | good morning :) | 07:45 |
| fgimenez | good morning | 08:12 |
| zyga | good morning | 09:38 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy OK Corral Day! 😃 | 09:46 |
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| Chipaca | what's /usr/lib/snappy-systemd/systemd-snappyhook ? | 09:56 |
| Chipaca | ogra_: is that one yours? ^ | 09:57 |
| dholbach | dpm, thanks for the emails | 11:42 |
| dholbach | I'll bring it up in the snappy standup later on as well | 11:42 |
| dpm | great, thanks dholbach | 11:43 |
| clobrano | Chipaca: hi, eventually I decided to propose the simple solution for Bug #1496319 (just a symlink without filters) :) | 11:46 |
| ubottu | bug 1496319 in Snappy "Could not create symlink to hw device with udev rules" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496319 | 11:46 |
| Chipaca | clobrano: still needs jdstrand's and/or co's input | 11:50 |
| clobrano | Chipaca: co? | 11:51 |
| zyga | mvo: hey | 11:52 |
| zyga | mvo: nice to see you again, how are you? | 11:52 |
| Chipaca | clobrano: "and/or his team" | 11:53 |
| clobrano | Chipaca: aahh, get it now ;). It's fine :) | 11:54 |
| mvo | hey zyga! thanks, I'm very well. how are you? | 11:55 |
| zyga | mvo: I just returned from holidays, I'm settling in | 11:58 |
| zyga | mvo: I wanted to ask about snaps for the kernel and a few other bits, if you remember our conversation from the sprint | 11:59 |
| mvo | zyga: I'm not sure I do, but there is progress for kernel snaps since the sprint | 12:00 |
| zyga | mvo: is there enough bits now to come up with an image for any system with just the snaps? | 12:00 |
| mvo | zyga: http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/all-snaps/ has all thats needed. there is a example image, there is a ubuntu-device-flash, a kernel and os snap and the run to show how to drive udf in the new world. the next step is store support for the kernel/os snaps and then we can get serious about testing them | 12:01 |
| zyga | mvo: that's a lot, thanks! I'll read that and see how to start desigining skeleton for ubuntu-image | 12:05 |
| mvo | zyga: this is what we did for u-d-f to support all-snaps https://code.launchpad.net/~snappy-dev/goget-ubuntu-touch/all-snaps/+merge/275273 | 12:07 |
| mvo | zyga: it needs some cleanup, its just enough to get us going for better testing | 12:08 |
| zyga | mvo: I see, thanks | 12:09 |
| zyga | sergiusens: hey! | 12:37 |
| zyga | sergiusens: how are you :) | 12:37 |
| zyga | sergiusens: I'm back from holidays today | 12:37 |
| zyga | sergiusens: would you have a moment to sync later today? | 12:38 |
| shuduo | lool: ping | 12:40 |
| lool | shuduo: pong | 12:40 |
| sergiusens | zyga, sure, but later, not just now ;-) | 12:41 |
| shuduo | lool: i'm working to create a webapp snap example based on tomcat-maven-webapp. i wonder how the scribpt 'wrapper' be generated? | 12:42 |
| zyga | sergiusens: I'll setup a meeting and we'll see | 12:42 |
| lool | shuduo: see tomcat-maven-webapp/Makefile | 12:42 |
| lool | shuduo: install -D -m755 wrapper $(DESTDIR)/bin/wrapper | 12:42 |
| lool | bottom of snapcraft.yaml runs make | 12:43 |
| shuduo | lool: i mean, is it composed by you or someone else for tomcat-maven-webapp? Is it necessary for tomcat-hosted webapp? | 12:45 |
| lool | shuduo: it's part of the example snap and helps start tomcat properly; you're free to get rid of it | 12:46 |
| lool | shuduo: perhaps you should mention your higher level goals; it looks like we're discussing specifics but you have a larger point to make | 12:46 |
| shuduo | lool: sorry i just try to understand the structure and call stack. i'm not an expert of webapp. i just tried to learn it as our customer maywant my answer regarding example code | 12:50 |
| shuduo | lool: i tried to program a tomcat-hosted spring based webapp then make it as a snap | 12:50 |
| shuduo | lool: i'm curious why we need wrapper and who call it after it be installed | 12:51 |
| shuduo | lool: oh, i find the part of snapcraft wrapper script explaied. it should answered my question. | 12:56 |
| lool | shuduo: basically snaps can either expose commands or services; in the case of this example snap, a tomcat service is exposed and is launched with this wrapper; note that snapcraft will generate intermediate wrappers (e.g. to set environment variables such as LD_LIBRARY_PATH or PATH) | 12:58 |
| shuduo | lool: let me read application developer manual first. thanks for your explaining. :) | 13:06 |
| lool | shuduo: anytime; let me know if you have issues or questions with this sample | 13:07 |
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| shuduo | lool: i found my sample project seems not packed well. after I installed on snappy on vm i can't see webapp run on specified url. | 13:38 |
| lool | shuduo: try sudo snappy service logs <snap-name> | 13:39 |
| Guest42341 | nope nope nope | 13:46 |
| shuduo | lool: my sample project is a webapp use tomcat8 as host, spring as framework, mvn build system. I verified on my laptop with localhost:8080/SpringMVC. then i build by snapcraft and installed on snappy system on vm. then i use IP:8080/SprinMVC but it return 404 | 13:47 |
| lool | shuduo: can you connect to :8080? | 13:48 |
| lool | shuduo: do you get tomcat 8 running there? | 13:48 |
| shuduo | lool: yes | 13:48 |
| lool | shuduo: if yes, then it's a webapp deployment issue | 13:48 |
| shuduo | lool: then how i debug it? | 13:48 |
| lool | shuduo: so this is more tomcat world than snappy world, but either you dump webapps preinstalled in the tomcat runtime dir, or you put the webapp to deploy in the to-be-deployed tomcat location | 13:48 |
| lool | shuduo: typically in the later case you'd install a .war in the to-be-deployed dir | 13:49 |
| lool | and that'd be installed in the runtime webapps dir | 13:49 |
| lool | shuduo: checkout the logs under the runtime dir | 13:49 |
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| balloons | fgimenez, so I haven't forgotten about your session for UOS :-) | 14:19 |
| balloons | we'd like to get things all scheduled this week, so it would be great if you could propose the session. | 14:20 |
| elopio | nessita: I've just gotten this TLS error: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12970390/ | 14:45 |
| nessita | elopio, checking! | 14:48 |
| shuduo | lool: i can se the war file be placed in /var/lib/apps/spring-mvc-demo.sideload/current/webapps. I pasted the logs content at https://pastebin.canonical.com/142681/. i don't know what is clue. could you pls take a look? | 14:48 |
| nessita | elopio, but is for an image not a package? | 14:48 |
| fgimenez | balloons, :) ok, tbh i'm not yet sure about this, anyway i'll try to find the time and contents to prepare something and let you know | 14:50 |
| elopio | fgimenez: sorry for throwing you here... :) | 14:50 |
| elopio | you can say no, but you'll break balloons' heart. | 14:51 |
| sergiusens | elopio, care to look at https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/snapcraft/1481122/+merge/275237 again? | 14:52 |
| elopio | nessita: generic-amd64 is a package. | 14:52 |
| elopio | that u-d-f downloads to create an image. | 14:52 |
| nessita | elopio, but the error is about downloading the package icon? | 14:52 |
| sergiusens | elopio, but it also downloads the icon; nessita is on the right track | 14:53 |
| sergiusens | what is failing is the link in the store manifest to retrieve the icon | 14:53 |
| nessita | the client should definitely retry and perhaps install without icon; on the other hand I will pursue the myapps setup about icon downloads | 14:53 |
| nessita | elopio, have a bug for this? | 14:53 |
| balloons | thanks elopio and fgimenez :-) | 14:54 |
| elopio | nessita: https://bugs.launchpad.net/snappy/+bug/1488186 | 14:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1488186 in Snappy "Failed to update: gnutls_handshake() failed" [High,Triaged] | 14:54 |
| elopio | we need to retry in many places. | 14:55 |
| nessita | elopio, thanks. I was thinking on a bug report more specific to icon download error vs package download error vs system image download error, because each one is fetched from very different places | 14:56 |
| elopio | nessita: I was thinking about marking more projects as being affected by this. But if you prefer that, I'll split it in three. | 14:57 |
| nessita | elopio, well, I would like to track ocurrences of each kind, becase I'm not sure you have noticed issues downloading a package yet? | 14:58 |
| nessita | elopio, so since each source is served from very different servers, I was thinking on tracking each separately (icons, packages and system images) | 14:58 |
| elopio | nessita: yes, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12896071/ | 14:58 |
| nessita | elopio, interesting | 14:59 |
| nessita | elopio, so are all these errors happening in the same place? | 14:59 |
| nessita | or is reproduceable in different envs? | 14:59 |
| elopio | ok, I'll report two more. Should I mark them as affecting a server project in addition to u-d-f? | 14:59 |
| elopio | nessita: I have seen the system image one in canonistack, and locally. The other two just from my machine, haven't seen them yet in the cloud | 15:00 |
| nessita | elopio, well, we haven't had any other reports, for example we never got reports from the phone | 15:00 |
| nessita | elopio, so it may also be a low timeout in the client for TLS timeout? | 15:01 |
| sergiusens | nessita, icons is a must though, it is part of the package install, just delivered outside of the package | 15:01 |
| sergiusens | elopio, check the date on your workstation ;-) | 15:02 |
| elopio | nessita: maybe. What I find weird is that it wasn't like this two weeks ago. | 15:03 |
| elopio | nessita: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/+bug/1510136 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/goget-ubuntu-touch/+bug/1510138 | 15:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1510136 in goget-ubuntu-touch (Ubuntu) "Failed to install the oem package: TLS handshake timeout" [Undecided,New] | 15:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1510138 in goget-ubuntu-touch (Ubuntu) "Failed to download the oem package icon: TLS handshake timeout" [Undecided,New] | 15:05 |
| elopio | ah, I know why I haven't seen this in the cloud, we don't use u-d-f in the suite :p | 15:09 |
| sergiusens | elopio, those icon retries are all snappy bugs though | 15:10 |
| sergiusens | elopio, the icon download comes from using the snappy api | 15:10 |
| elopio | sergiusens: um, that's better. So we can fix it in one single place. | 15:11 |
| sergiusens | elopio, you do need to rebuild u-d-f so it is fine to leave the bug open for it | 15:11 |
| elopio | sergiusens: yes, just marking it as affecting snappy now. You guys can later mark it invalid or duplicate. | 15:12 |
| elopio | ppisati: hello. I'm starting to learn about dtb and the board leds and was wondering why the heartbeat is not blinking in bbb. | 15:44 |
| ppisati | elopio: you can find which trigger that led is using, looking at the | 15:47 |
| ppisati | elopio: cat /sys/class/leds/$LED/trigger | 15:47 |
| ppisati | elopio: or something along that line | 15:47 |
| ppisati | elopio: kernel version? | 15:47 |
| elopio | pitti: it's set to none, but the dtb tries to set it to heartbeat. | 15:47 |
| elopio | I tried echoing heartbeat in there too, which works on debian but doesn't in snappy. | 15:47 |
| ppisati | elopio: do you have the heartbeat module loaded? | 15:48 |
| elopio | ppisati: I don't know. | 15:48 |
| * elopio starts the bbb again. | 15:48 | |
| elopio | ppisati: 4.2.0-16-generic | 15:55 |
| elopio | not sure how to load the hearbeat module. lsmod doesn't show anything with heartbeat in the name. | 15:55 |
| shuduo | lool: ping | 15:55 |
| ppisati | elopio: cat /sys/class/leds/$LED/trigger | 15:55 |
| ppisati | elopio: and show me the output | 15:55 |
| elopio | ppisati: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12970889/ | 15:57 |
| sergiusens | elopio, Chipaca care to take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/snapcraft/1510160/+merge/275736 ? | 15:58 |
| ppisati | elopio: sudo modprobe ledtrig-heartbeat | 15:58 |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: trade ya https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/snappy/no-empty-channel-in-update/+merge/275731 | 15:58 |
| ppisati | elopio: and then try to set it again | 15:58 |
| elopio | ppisati: awesome. | 15:58 |
| elopio | ppisati: so, how do we tell the bbb oem package to load that module? | 15:59 |
| ppisati | elopio: if the correct trigger is not built into the kernel | 16:00 |
| ppisati | elopio: you can't do that at boot time | 16:00 |
| ppisati | elopio: i'm checking one thing, hold on | 16:00 |
| elopio | huh, so we need it in the kernel snap instead. | 16:00 |
| ppisati | elopio: we need a kernel with tha option built-in | 16:01 |
| ppisati | elopio: i checked vivid, and we had the same config back then | 16:02 |
| ppisati | elopio: so it's not a regression | 16:02 |
| ppisati | elopio: if you care to open an lp bug, i'll prepare a config patch and send it | 16:02 |
| elopio | ppisati: sure. in lp:snappy? or in a project for the kernel? | 16:03 |
| ppisati | elopio: just a normal lp bug, we are using the same kernel (ubuntu vs snappy) | 16:04 |
| elopio | ppisati: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1510165 | 16:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1510165 in linux (Ubuntu) "heartbeat module is not loaded" [Undecided,New] | 16:07 |
| elopio | thank you! | 16:08 |
| sergiusens | Chipaca, fair trade | 16:10 |
| shuduo | lool: just let you know i found out why my web app did not run. Seems your sample code use <build><finalName> to define a short app name but I use original pom.xml has no the section then lead the web app full name contain version and SNAPSHOT postfix. I can see my webapp run well with right url with long name now. Thanks your sample as good referance. :) | 16:22 |
| dholbach | all rightie... I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! | 17:20 |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: mvo: can you kick a new build of u-d-f so it picks up a new snappy? | 17:21 |
| Chipaca | mvo: if you have a release checklist, can you add building a new u-d-f and a new webdm to it? | 17:21 |
| Chipaca | mvo: if you don't have a release checklist, http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1846683149 | 17:23 |
| elopio | sergiusens: any idea what are we missing here? https://code.launchpad.net/~stephen-stewart/webdm/use-correct-version-for-post-css-bemlinter/+merge/272467/comments/696732/+download | 17:40 |
| lool | shuduo: awesome | 17:43 |
| lool | shuduo: we can adjust the sample if it's not good enough | 17:43 |
| lool | shuduo: the idea is to keep it simple and robust, yet do something relatively advanced | 17:44 |
| Chipaca | elopio: i just saw your comment wrt licensing | 17:44 |
| Chipaca | elopio: and i know why you're seeing what you're seeing | 17:44 |
| elopio | Chipaca: and you have a magic solution? | 17:44 |
| Chipaca | elopio: yes, yes I do. | 17:44 |
| Chipaca | elopio: software is magic, right? | 17:44 |
| elopio | yes it is. | 17:45 |
| Chipaca | elopio: do you have an easy way, from the integration tests, to give the test an actual terminal? | 17:47 |
| Chipaca | elopio: if you do, do it. If you don't, do this instead: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12971806/ | 17:48 |
| elopio | Chipaca: I have no idea how to give it a terminal, but I can search. | 17:49 |
| Chipaca | elopio: probably easier to include the above diff in your branch | 17:50 |
| elopio | yes, probably. | 17:50 |
| elopio | thanks Chipaca. I'll try to write the test with that. | 17:51 |
| elopio | I'm also having a problem sending y to the stdin, and I'm not sure that fixes it. | 17:51 |
| Chipaca | elopio: echo y | your-test ? | 17:51 |
| * Chipaca fights down the urge to mention yes `yes` | 17:52 | |
| elopio | Chipaca: I haven't tried that, just writing the the stdin pipe. /me tries | 17:52 |
| Chipaca | elopio: ah! | 17:53 |
| Chipaca | elopio: let me write it in go for you, gimme a bit | 17:53 |
| sergiusens | elopio, phantomJS fails TypeError: 'undefined' is not an object (evaluating 'Backbone.Marionette.ItemView') | 17:53 |
| elopio | sergiusens: that I know. But how come it is returning undefined? | 17:56 |
| sergiusens | elopio, I don't know, beowulf who isn't here should know | 17:57 |
| sergiusens | I don't know much about JS much less supporting tools | 17:57 |
| elopio | sergiusens: I've pinged him. | 17:58 |
| snappyc | getting a 'connection to Mir server failed' error when trying to start clocks example | 18:01 |
| Chipaca | elopio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12971957/ | 18:01 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: is mir running and creating its socket? | 18:02 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: I think it creates it as /tmp/mir_socket or something like that | 18:02 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: you need to make it use that socket | 18:02 |
| snappyc | thanks chipaca. how do i check the log? | 18:07 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: mir's logs would be under "snappy service logs mir" | 18:07 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: is that the log you mean? | 18:08 |
| snappyc | yeah. how do i get to it? /var/log/... ? | 18:08 |
| snappyc | or is it somewhere else? | 18:09 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: snappy service logs mir? | 18:09 |
| sergiusens | snappyc, run what Chipaca mentions | 18:10 |
| Chipaca | yeh, that's an actual command | 18:10 |
| Chipaca | snappy service logs mir | 18:10 |
| Chipaca | mvo: we should make snappy a snap | 18:11 |
| snappyc | how to execute ur script? | 18:12 |
| snappyc | :{ | 18:12 |
| elopio | sergiusens: beowulf is on parental leave. | 18:14 |
| snappyc | $snappy service logs mir --returns -- unknown command "service". Please specify one command of: booted, build, config, ... | 18:14 |
| mvo | Chipaca: es, I think we should | 18:14 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: your snappy is quite old | 18:15 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: update that, first | 18:15 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: "snappy update" should do that for you | 18:15 |
| snappyc | ubuntu-personal/rolling/edge | 18:15 |
| Chipaca | personal! is that supported in any way right now? | 18:16 |
| * Chipaca has no idea | 18:16 | |
| snappyc | lol. :{ | 18:16 |
| sergiusens | the personal target is not supported | 18:20 |
| sergiusens | the mir snap should not be installable on snappy personal either | 18:20 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: what are you trying to do? | 18:20 |
| snappyc | mir snap installed. | 18:20 |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: i just assumed it was from the mir snap, it might be the system mir on personal? (dunno) (because, see: dunno) | 18:20 |
| * sergiusens doesn't want to discuss mir dev as he is not the right person | 18:21 | |
| * sergiusens uses his remaining mana to invoke kgunn | 18:22 | |
| Chipaca | snappyc: snappy ubuntu personal is still a way in the future, fwiw | 18:22 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: i don't know what you're trying to do, but you're probably better off using snappy ubuntu-core | 18:22 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: are there instructions out there that point at -personal, or did you do that yourself? | 18:22 |
| sergiusens | mvo, Chipaca elopio are you already on xenial? | 18:23 |
| elopio | sergiusens: nop. | 18:23 |
| * sergiusens updated to wily yesterday and is considering going all in | 18:23 | |
| Chipaca | sergiusens: updating now | 18:23 |
| snappyc | just doing it myself | 18:24 |
| mvo | sergiusens: not yet, but soon :-D | 18:24 |
| mvo | sergiusens: at least on my main box | 18:24 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: ah. Good job on figuring out the bits :) | 18:24 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: but yeah, that's very much not ready for anything right now | 18:24 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: it only gets updated when people want to take a poke to see how things would look | 18:25 |
| snappyc | Chipaca: can i install snappy desktop on snappy core? | 18:28 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: there isn't a "snappy desktop" | 18:29 |
| snappyc | :{ | 18:29 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: ? | 18:30 |
| snappyc | Chipaca: any way to export installed app? | 18:38 |
| snappyc | *snap | 18:38 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: you're going to have to explain that one to me, i'm afraid | 18:39 |
| snappyc | :{ | 18:41 |
| snappyc | um | 18:41 |
| snappyc | how is ubuntu-core updated? | 18:41 |
| snappyc | can i update it manually? | 18:41 |
| wiggleworm | I tried to change the time on my snappy system with the command "sudo date 102613392015.00" but the new date will not stick | 18:41 |
| wiggleworm | am I doing something wrong? | 18:42 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: depends what you mean by "manually". "snappy update" updates the system, and you can run that command yourself | 18:43 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: it's also run automatically, so you don't have to | 18:43 |
| snappyc | chipaca: snappy update doesnt work. so i need to update manually | 18:44 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: on your snappy personal? | 18:44 |
| snappyc | yeah | 18:44 |
| snappyc | how do i download ubuntu-core.snap? | 18:44 |
| snappyc | wiggleworm: $ sudo date --set="Sun Apr 04 17:43:26 UTC 2015" | 18:44 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: you can't update from personal to core, they are different things | 18:44 |
| snappyc | personal has core | 18:44 |
| snappyc | Chipaca: is there a ubuntu-core.snap i can download? | 18:45 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: I don't think so, no. | 18:47 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: the base system is not (yet) itself a snap | 18:47 |
| snappyc | :{ | 18:47 |
| * kgunn reads scrollback | 18:48 | |
| Chipaca | snappyc: and i'm not sure in what sense "personal has core", but whatever you're trying to do, it probably won't work | 18:48 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: what are you running this on? a vm? | 18:48 |
| snappyc | yep | 18:48 |
| Chipaca | snappyc: so why not download the ubuntu-core image? | 18:48 |
| snappyc | i did.. but if i can update ubuntu-personal... id like to stick with it | 18:49 |
| kgunn | snappyc: why do you need ubuntu-personal ? | 18:50 |
| snappyc | no reason | 18:50 |
| wiggleworm | snappyc: sorry that did not work either (time change) | 18:52 |
| snappyc | Chipaca: thx for the help | 18:53 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: when you say "will not stick" | 18:54 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: what do you mean? | 18:54 |
| wiggleworm | Chipaca: stick as in - after I issue the change date command I check the date | 18:55 |
| wiggleworm | time and its not changed | 18:55 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: ok, so, two things | 18:55 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: if you don't say --set or -s, date will just interpret the date you give it and print it out | 18:56 |
| Chipaca | afaik at least | 18:56 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: date --help might help | 18:56 |
| wiggleworm | command that I am running "sudo date --set="Sun Apr 04 17:43:36 UTC 2015" | 18:58 |
| wiggleworm | not the actual date, just an example | 18:58 |
| wiggleworm | Chipaca: thanks, I tried date --help first - still no luck | 18:59 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: also, note that snappy runs a time sync daemon | 18:59 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: so maybe use timedatectl | 18:59 |
| wiggleworm | Chipaca: what is that? time sync daemon | 18:59 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: systemd-timesyncd.service | 19:00 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: on a full ubuntu system, man systemd-timesyncd | 19:00 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: also man systemd-timedated | 19:00 |
| wiggleworm | Chipaca: Sorry I meant what does it do - I am guessing it syncs with some time server? | 19:01 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: yes | 19:02 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: although i think by default no server is configured, so it'll take them from dhcp if given | 19:10 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: in any case, to set the time, timedatectl | 19:10 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: thank you for asking this, btw, because i didn't know :) | 19:11 |
| wiggleworm | Chipaca: thank you - I just maned the timedatectl and I see how I should do it. I also figured out that I needed to change the time zone - :) after that my time looked right | 19:12 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: hah | 19:12 |
| Chipaca | wiggleworm: that's one you set via snappy, fwiw | 19:13 |
| Chipaca | defaults to etc/utc | 19:13 |
| Chipaca | mvo: is there an easy way to get the tools ppa rebuild for x? | 19:55 |
| mvo | Chipaca: all of it? I don't think so, may I ask for the use-case? | 19:59 |
| Chipaca | mvo: dunno about "all of it" :) | 20:01 |
| Chipaca | mvo: i mean, i'm moving to x | 20:01 |
| Chipaca | mvo: should i worry about that ppa? :) | 20:01 |
| mvo | Chipaca: do we have ppa builds for X already? | 20:05 |
| Chipaca | mvo: no | 20:05 |
| mvo | Chipaca: but sorry, let me reply properly | 20:05 |
| mvo | Chipaca: I think its fine to not worry about the X ppa for now, we just push everything into X proper | 20:06 |
| mvo | problem solved :) | 20:06 |
| Chipaca | mvo: \o/ | 20:06 |
| tasdomas | If I deploy a snap with a service and a binary (two separate files), is the there something special I need to do to let the service run the binary? | 20:07 |
| tasdomas | because currently /apps/bin is not in the PATH of the service | 20:07 |
| Chipaca | tasdomas: you don't want to run things from /apps/bin from inside a service | 20:08 |
| Chipaca | tasdomas: double-confinement won't work :) | 20:08 |
| Chipaca | tasdomas: instead, do | 20:08 |
| Chipaca | tasdomas: $SNAP_APP_PATH/bin/whatever | 20:09 |
| tasdomas | Chipaca, thanks! | 20:09 |
| Chipaca | np | 20:09 |
| Chipaca | augh | 20:17 |
| Chipaca | ogra_: looks like we messed something up :( | 20:18 |
| mvo | Chipaca: whats broken? | 20:26 |
| Chipaca | mvo: replied to jdstrand's mail in reply to your announcement | 20:26 |
| Chipaca | mvo: not a regression though :) | 20:26 |
| mvo | Chipaca: hrm, hrm, I need to look why the writable path change did not land, this is terrible | 20:34 |
| Chipaca | mvo: no, it's not terrible | 20:35 |
| Chipaca | mvo: it's just bad | 20:35 |
| Chipaca | mvo: relax a little :) | 20:35 |
| Chipaca | mvo: or maybe i just read too much panic in your "this is terrible" | 20:36 |
| mvo | Chipaca: /me relaxes | 20:38 |
| mvo | Chipaca: well, maybe its too stronly worded, sorry for that | 20:38 |
| Chipaca | mvo: i mean, yes it's bad, but it's not a regression and has an easy fix | 20:38 |
| jdstrand | yikes | 20:39 |
| jdstrand | I didn't mean to stress people out | 20:39 |
| * jdstrand just viewed it as a feature that didn't land | 20:39 | |
| jdstrand | hence the email rather than ping | 20:39 |
| mvo | jdstrand: yeah, its fine, no worries | 20:39 |
| mvo | sorry for using too strong language | 20:40 |
| mvo | its just that I want things to be perfect :) | 20:40 |
| jdstrand | well, if you typed it, you might be feeling it | 20:40 |
| mvo | if it they are not "its terrible" | 20:40 |
| * jdstrand hugs mvo :) | 20:40 | |
| * mvo hugs jdstrand and Chipaca | 20:41 | |
| * Chipaca hugs everybody | 20:42 | |
| * jdstrand hugs Chipaca :) | 20:42 | |
| * mvo will backport the fix tomorrow and calls it a day | 20:45 | |
| NuisanceValue | should I be using snappy and possibly docker? I have a small project which I was going to use a raspberry pi to capture images from an ip camera and rsyncing them to a remote server. Or should I just go for 14.04 | 21:23 |
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