[07:27] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:49] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: whats TBA mean
[15:56] <BluesKaj> To Be Announced
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> ah
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: pre-release will come before december 31?
[15:57] <BluesKaj> but I saw a schedule for 16.04 toolchain will be o=uploaded by Oct 29
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> nice
[16:01] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: yeah tnx saw that one few days ago
[16:03] <BluesKaj> right, gonna try it ?
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: toolchain can be installed?
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: im surely gonna install alpha1
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> and help bugging out
[16:05] <BluesKaj> yes it has a few new basic packages, Toolchain is merely a barebones version of the new release, barely enough to be a legit new OS
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: nice, then im gonna testout :p
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: the toolchain would be then downloadable on daily images as iso right?
[16:07] <BluesKaj> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_build_toolchain
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: tnx
[16:10] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, iirc it works only if you change your sources.list to the OS names ..I use the sed comand like so: sudo sed -i 's/wily/xerus/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:11] <BluesKaj> then update, upgrade and dist-upgrade
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: ok tnx
[16:12] <BluesKaj> or you could try sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> would that work in toolchain stage BluesKaj ?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> my memory is a bit fuzzy about which command worked with the last toolchain I tried
[16:14] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, ^
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: we will soon findout oct 29 :p
[16:14] <BluesKaj> yep
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> im so thrilled on xenial BluesKaj :p
[16:17] <BluesKaj> yeah, I like being an early adopter/tester
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: yeah your always present here, but xenial will be highly wanted this time :p
[16:19] <BluesKaj> it's surprising how few problems I've encoiuntered since 12.04 with devel OSs...12.04 was terrible
[16:19] <BluesKaj> it was the worst IME
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> lol, im still running 12.04 on my desktop, no issues there
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> ill use the xenial testing on there
[16:22] <BluesKaj> I still have 14.04 as my stable OS on another partition
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> yeah netbook has trusty also
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> best version ever
[16:22] <BluesKaj> very solid
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> thats only good news for xenial :p
[16:23] <lordievader> When can we upgrade to 16.04? (Is it even known yet?)
[16:23] <jpds> lordievader: You can now
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> jpds: for real?
[16:23] <lordievader> Ah, nice. I should do that.
[16:23] <jpds> I don't think much has changed though
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> jpds: you dont need to wait toolchain?
[16:24] <jpds> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> jpds: so a do-release-upgrade would do the trick as BluesKaj said?
[16:25] <BluesKaj> d-release-upgrade -d maybe
[16:25] <BluesKaj> do
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[16:26] <lordievader> jpds: I know but if I do it now I cannot forget it later ;)
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> lol
[16:26] <jpds> http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/meta-release-development
[16:27] <jpds> Not listed there though
[16:29] <BluesKaj> gotta change the sources.list and perhaps use the main mirror in the package manager
[16:31] <lordievader> Still 185 update :)
[16:31] <lordievader> updates*
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: your upgrading right now?
[16:32] <lordievader> Yes.
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> nice
[16:32] <lordievader> The advantage of having multiple pc's.
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> yeah :p
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: lets us know, how that worked out ok :p
[16:56] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, which mirror are you using?
[16:56] <BluesKaj> lordievader, ^
[17:45] <lordievader> lotuspsychje: It upgraded without problems. Have turned it off after.
[17:46] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Err, no idea. I guess main.
[17:50] <BluesKaj> lordievader, what did you upgrade to ?
[17:51] <lordievader> Xenial Xerus.
[17:51] <lordievader> You can't really call it an upgrade though.
[17:52] <BluesKaj> I couldn't get any repos to upgrade by changing my sources.list to xerus from wily with sed. no packages available
[17:52] <jpds> BluesKaj: xenial
[17:53] <BluesKaj> oops :-)
[17:53] <BluesKaj> no wonder
[17:54] <BluesKaj> changed back to wily and now a kernel upgrade came down the pipe
[17:55] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Like jpds, xenial is the codename.
[17:55] <BluesKaj> got distracted by some other goings on around here so i wasn't concentrating enough
[17:55] <jpds> lordievader: I don't have a like button as in the facebook sense
[17:55] <lordievader> A 'says' misses in that sentence -.-
[17:55] <BluesKaj> yeah xenial xerus , another dumb name for a groundhog
[17:56] <jpds> BluesKaj: It's a squirrel
[17:57] <BluesKaj> ground squirrel then
[17:57] <BluesKaj> a little "critter"
[20:00] <PryMar56> is there any backports for trusty? looking for libcacard-dev
[20:10] <lotuspsychje> !backports | PryMar56 can this help?
[20:11] <PryMar56> lotuspsychje, thanks.. I mis-read the warnings. I don't need libcacard-dev package in trusty
[20:12] <PryMar56> only had to install libspice-server