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| dholbach | good morning | 07:27 |
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| philipballew | hey dholbach | 08:03 |
| dholbach | hi philipballew | 08:03 |
| philipballew | dholbach, up to anything exciting these days? | 08:18 |
| davidcalle | Morning o/ | 08:19 |
| dholbach | salut dpm, salut davidcalle | 08:19 |
| dpm | hey all | 08:19 |
| dholbach | philipballew, I'm in the middle of a patch pilot session :) | 08:19 |
| davidcalle | Hey dholbach, nice weekend? | 08:19 |
| dholbach | davidcalle, ubucon was fantastic | 08:20 |
| dholbach | well organised and meeting up with the ubuntu crowd was great | 08:20 |
| davidcalle | I've seen the pics, yeah :) Looking forward to the parisian one as well. | 08:20 |
| dpm | \o/ | 08:22 |
| dholbach | dpm, did you get back home all right? | 08:24 |
| dpm | dholbach, yeah, all good. No changing of trains made it for an uneventful trip :) | 08:27 |
| philipballew | so many ubucons. That seems like fun for everyone! | 08:27 |
| dpm | yeah :) | 08:27 |
| philipballew | dholbach, the patch pilot thing seems like both hard, but rewarding work | 08:28 |
| dholbach | I like it - you get to see a lot of work from new contributors first hand | 08:29 |
| dholbach | davidcalle, how was your weekend? :) | 08:29 |
| davidcalle | dholbach, quite nice, went to the beach :) Except last night, Estelle and I drove from 8pm to 5am, asleep at 6, Tristan was done with his night at 8. Now, I'm trying not to overdose on coffee :D | 08:47 |
| * dholbach hugs davidcalle | 08:47 | |
| davidcalle | It's fine actually, my screen is *bright* though | 08:48 |
| davidcalle | dholbach, on snappy -not duc- things, anything not needing engineering input? | 08:49 |
| dholbach | davidcalle, I think it's just the ones marked as yellow which need engineering input | 08:51 |
| davidcalle | Indeed, my bad | 08:52 |
| * dholbach hugs davidcalle | 08:55 | |
| popey | \o/ | 09:03 |
| popey | dpm, dholbach how was ubucon? | 09:07 |
| dholbach | awesome | 09:07 |
| dholbach | well organised | 09:07 |
| dholbach | lots of fun | 09:08 |
| dholbach | and good to see all the German/Berlin Ubuntu folks again | 09:08 |
| dholbach | I liked the session about planning Ubucon Europe a lot | 09:08 |
| dholbach | I'm looking forward to that one already :) | 09:08 |
| dpm | yeah, it was just fantastic | 09:09 |
| popey | Excellent! | 09:09 |
| dpm | with all that's going on around Ubuntu, it was really reinvigorating to see the passion the German team put in organizing the event | 09:10 |
| dpm | and it was really great to hang out with them too | 09:10 |
| popey | dpm, any chance I can steal some of your slides for oggcamp this weekend :) | 09:14 |
| popey | also, dholbach did you end up talking about snappy? | 09:15 |
| dholbach | yep, together with svij and ogra :) | 09:15 |
| dpm | popey, sure | 09:15 |
| popey | dpm, did you manage to get any kind of convergence demo going? | 09:18 |
| dpm | popey, unfortunately not :( I got the desktop mode enabled on my nexus 4 with a bluetooth keyboard and mouse, but the hdmi output never worked: it did show something on the projector, but was just an Ubuntu background image with a progress bar (the same one you get on boot) | 09:20 |
| dpm | you might be luckier if silo 22 lands this week | 09:20 |
| popey | heh, i expect a last minute demo being cobbled together in the car on the way there if it lands as late as thursday :) | 09:21 |
| dpm | :) | 09:21 |
| * popey will not be driving :) | 09:21 | |
| popey | oh, we nudged over 2000 clicks in the store http://popey.mooo.com/mirror/clicks/graph_clicks.png | 09:22 |
| dholbach | nice! | 09:22 |
| dpm | popey, also, you might want to try with the nexus 7 as well, perhaps it works better there | 09:22 |
| dpm | ah, cool | 09:22 |
| popey | yeah, will poke the landing team to see when 22 will land | 09:22 |
| dpm | popey, btw dholbach and I had some fun times trying your music app snap :) | 09:22 |
| dpm | well, mostly dholbach, as he was the one trying to get it to work :) | 09:23 |
| popey | hahah | 09:23 |
| dholbach | popey, I'll have a chat with ted to figure out how to make snapcraft's qml plugin work with it :) | 09:23 |
| popey | It was the result of me watching Sergio do his demo on the snappy clinic (so well done on that) which got me motivated | 09:23 |
| popey | I just threw it together to see how hard it was | 09:24 |
| dholbach | I'll file a bug and let you know :) | 09:24 |
| popey | ta | 09:24 |
| popey | we should probably land the snapcraft bits in music-app trunk | 09:24 |
| popey | rather than some junk branch | 09:24 |
| dholbach | yes, once snapcraft does the right thing it should be landed, there agreed :) | 09:25 |
| popey | heh | 09:28 |
| dholbach | popey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/snapcraft/+bug/1510008 | 09:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1510008 in snapcraft "qml plugin: make it combinable with apps which use other build systems to install their files" [Undecided,New] | 09:30 |
| popey | thanks dholbach | 10:27 |
| dholbach | popey, the avengers programme does not exist any more afaik | 11:08 |
| dholbach | I removed the page a few weeks back with a link to the qa team's touch testing page | 11:08 |
| dholbach | but somebody added it back | 11:08 |
| dholbach | I just sent Nick a mail about it | 11:08 |
| dholbach | AFAICT the 'avengers' bug tag doesn't do anything | 11:09 |
| popey | while the avengers 'programme' doesn't exist, sure, I think the page is useful. | 11:15 |
| popey | one of the clock app devs put it back, because it's a handy page | 11:15 |
| popey | We could remove the avengers tags from the bug links, that's not a problem. | 11:15 |
| popey | I edited the text at the top to make it clear the page is _just_ a list of links | 11:16 |
| popey | oh, i already did remove the avengers tags, so nothing to do there | 11:17 |
| popey | dholbach, ^ | 11:18 |
| dholbach | could we maybe make the page live in the QATeam namespace and we make the avengers page a redirect or something? | 11:18 |
| dholbach | so we don't duplicate the content | 11:19 |
| dholbach | I think https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TouchTesting/BugFiling is trying to do the same thing | 11:19 |
| dholbach | and there's https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TouchTesting/BugReporting | 11:19 |
| dholbach | I can do that, if you're fine with the idea | 11:20 |
| popey | the QA page is missing stuff though | 11:21 |
| dholbach | right | 11:21 |
| dholbach | I could move the avengers content there | 11:21 |
| popey | I mean, sure, it could. It's not worth arguing about, but the avengers page works | 11:22 |
| popey | I don't quite understand why everything was moved to a harder to find, less-detailed page | 11:22 |
| dholbach | it wasn'T moved | 11:22 |
| dholbach | both existed | 11:22 |
| popey | ok, duplicated and then deleted == moved | 11:22 |
| dholbach | maybe I missed to make the page a redirect the last time | 11:23 |
| dholbach | or I wasn't sure if people were still using the page | 11:23 |
| popey | Avengers is easy to remember a nice way to get people into bug reporting | 11:23 |
| popey | some dry blah blah QA / here's a lengthy page on reporting bugs / isn't appealing IMO | 11:23 |
| dholbach | ok, fine | 11:23 |
| popey | but if the QA pages have the same content and we redirect, than fine :) | 11:23 |
| dholbach | I'll leave it up to Nick to decide | 11:24 |
| dholbach | all I wanted is less duplication | 11:24 |
| popey | (also, some of the QA links are actually _broken_) so they should be audited before switching | 11:24 |
| popey | sure | 11:24 |
| dholbach | and stopping people to use a tag nobody uses | 11:24 |
| dholbach | but I'm happy either way | 11:24 |
| popey | there's no tag | 11:24 |
| popey | hasn't been for months | 11:24 |
| popey | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TouchTesting/BugFiling - all the indicators links are broken | 11:25 |
| popey | I do agree that it should be in one place. | 11:25 |
| popey | But wherever that is, needs to be maintained | 11:25 |
| popey | maybe we should have a regular docs meeting to discuss this ;) | 11:25 |
| dholbach | ok, I removed the traces of avengers from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TouchTesting/BugReporting | 11:26 |
| dholbach | and I'm happy for the list of touch projects in either place | 11:26 |
| popey | dpm, looks like this landed, so tomorrows image will be fun https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/445 | 12:46 |
| mhall119 | davidcalle: dholbach: I got the devportal staging spec working again, and getting ready to package up another update to the site, is there anything you guys need landed? | 12:46 |
| davidcalle | mhall119, yes! I can have a branch ready around team meeting time, does it work for you? | 12:48 |
| mhall119 | yup | 12:48 |
| davidcalle | Also, do you think we can ask caio for a mechanism in the spec that completely respawns postgre with deployments? We don't need to keep dbs on staging | 12:50 |
| davidcalle | keep dbs state* | 12:50 |
| mhall119 | davidcalle: we need to work with deej on that, he ended up having to do something different than caio's resetdb stuff in order to get the database connections working again | 12:51 |
| mhall119 | but yes, it should be possible | 12:51 |
| davidcalle | ok | 12:52 |
| dpm | popey, \o/ | 12:54 |
| dpm | davidcalle, mhall119, dholbach, popey, I just sent an e-mail re: UOS session scheduling. Would you mind having a look at it and start adding your track's wanted sessions on the trello board? | 13:19 |
| dpm | I'd like to review them on our 1:1s later on today | 13:20 |
| dholbach | dpm, ok... | 13:24 |
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| balloons | that's a bit better :-) | 13:27 |
| dpm | thanks dholbach | 13:27 |
| dholbach | hey balloons | 13:28 |
| dpm | balloons, hey hey | 13:28 |
| dpm | balloons, re-sending this then: I just sent an e-mail re: UOS session scheduling. Would you mind having a look at it and start adding your track's wanted sessions on the trello board? | 13:28 |
| balloons | can do. I was just looking through the Avengers cleanup dholbach was starting on | 13:29 |
| dholbach | balloons, it's not a big issue | 13:30 |
| dholbach | balloons, I thought it was something we resolved, then the news article came up :) | 13:30 |
| * balloons adds a redirect for everything to pilot | 13:31 | |
| balloons | :p | 13:31 |
| jcastro | dholbach: I'm scheduling my sessions now all at once | 13:50 |
| dholbach | awesome! | 13:50 |
| jcastro | do I just submit or can I put them in the timeslots I want? | 13:50 |
| dpm | jcastro, this might be better a question for mhall119 ^ | 13:51 |
| jcastro | oh, sorry | 13:51 |
| jcastro | Also, my team doesn't really work on Ubuntu so our sessions are more end-user consumable than planning sessions, I hope that's ok. | 13:52 |
| dpm | jcastro, that's fine, we accommodate for different types of content on UOS (users, dev workshops, presentations, etc.) | 13:53 |
| dpm | jcastro, and thanks for putting together the sessions! | 13:53 |
| balloons | so I believe the UKers dropped back an hour last night right? | 14:00 |
| jcastro | mhall119: ok so am I just submitting or am I scheduling also? | 14:04 |
| popey | balloons, our DST change was the weekend just gone, yes. | 14:06 |
| balloons | that makes this week the weird week for timings. We don't change till Sunday | 14:07 |
| popey | and Australia the week after I believe | 14:07 |
| popey | it's completely stupid :) | 14:07 |
| dpm | popey, could you add the wanted sessions on the app dev track in preparation for our 1:1? | 14:21 |
| popey | dpm, added one, but the html5 one is just a bit vague | 14:22 |
| dpm | popey, right, I was expecting you to look into it | 14:23 |
| popey | in the next 7 mins, sure. | 14:23 |
| dpm | well, not in the next 7 minutes, no. This was my initial suggestion for topics | 14:24 |
| popey | right, i expected us to discuss this | 14:24 |
| mhall119 | jcastro: you're a track lead, so you should schedule too | 14:30 |
| balloons | dholbach, did you already contact flavors about sessions for UOS? | 15:27 |
| balloons | dholbach, I ask because I'd like to pitch the idea of doing the show and tell sessions again for flavors. I think it's a great boon to them and the rest of the community | 15:27 |
| dholbach | balloons, I mailed community-team and ubuntu-devel and pinged a few individually | 15:28 |
| dholbach | and mailed some representatives | 15:28 |
| dholbach | yes | 15:28 |
| balloons | dholbach, ok, so no harm in me following up | 15:28 |
| dholbach | yep, sounds good | 15:28 |
| mhall119 | dpm: firing up Chrome, will be just a minute | 15:31 |
| dpm | famous last words :) | 15:31 |
| mhall119 | true story :/ | 15:32 |
| dholbach | davidcalle, mhall119, balloons: team call? | 16:32 |
| davidcalle | mhall119, latest trunk of duc ready to ship afaict | 17:07 |
| mhall119 | davidcalle: awesome, thanks! | 17:07 |
| davidcalle | mhall119, regarding analytics, I've added both heap and GA tag manager for evaluation purpose as you can see, I don't expect this to last and will start working on the link plugin we talked about | 17:08 |
| dholbach | all rightie... I call it a day - see you all tomorrow! | 17:20 |
| popey | https://plus.google.com/u/0/+AlanPope/posts/Y3RgjUu4xa9 \o/ | 17:38 |
| popey | dpm, ^ | 17:38 |
| dpm | popey, nice one :) | 17:43 |
| davidcalle | aha, wireless desktop sharing with Steam link works great! And the controller is a decent mouse. Hi from my tv :) | 17:49 |
| balloons | hi davidcalle! | 17:56 |
| jcastro | https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/3qbfji/ubuntu_pls/ | 19:13 |
| jcastro | hah, busted! | 19:13 |
| balloons | I wonder how old that image is | 19:28 |
| popey | jcastro, how are the docker images genuine ubuntu ones when they replace /sbin/init with systemd on 14.04? | 20:02 |
| jcastro | popey: which specific images? | 20:09 |
| popey | https://hub.docker.com/_/ubuntu/ 14.04 apparently | 20:10 |
| popey | I'm getting this from someone using it, and getting confused when upstart doesn't work | 20:10 |
| popey | https://github.com/tianon/docker-brew-ubuntu-core/blob/380b4edf3d7e68499f81acc3eb8d22d59236b7b2/trusty/Dockerfile | 20:11 |
| jcastro | I am looking at the dockerfile and it doesn't show that at all afaict? | 20:11 |
| popey | hmmm | 20:11 |
| jcastro | if he's trying to restart services in a docker container then he's not using it right | 20:12 |
| popey | hah | 20:12 |
| jcastro | one of the reasons to use application containers is not to have init in the container | 20:12 |
| popey | will pass that on :) | 20:12 |
| jcastro | he's using it like a lightVM, not as an app container | 20:12 |
| jcastro | wait, let me get you something he should read | 20:12 |
| popey | he's pulling in mongodb which tries to start it as a service and fails | 20:12 |
| jcastro | so you don't sound preachy. | 20:12 |
| popey | which is where he went looking | 20:13 |
| popey | his app needs mongo | 20:13 |
| jcastro | is he bundling mongo with his container? | 20:16 |
| jcastro | or does he want to connect his containerized app to a mongodb container? | 20:16 |
| * czajkowski really should remove mongo as a highlight | 20:16 | |
| popey | yeah, he's bundling mongo in the container jcastro | 20:17 |
| jcastro | he should probably do that in the dockerfile, I bet he's just grabbing a docker image | 20:19 |
| jcastro | sshing into it, doing foo, then trying to create an image | 20:19 |
| jcastro | if he follows the mongodb dockerfile and copies and derives off of that it will probably work | 20:20 |
| jcastro | http://docs.docker.com/examples/mongodb/ | 20:20 |
| popey | k | 20:20 |
| jcastro | that's all I got though | 20:20 |
| popey | ta | 20:20 |
| popey | "I don't know how to use docker, which is one of the issues here" :D | 20:21 |
| jcastro | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25135897/how-to-automatically-start-a-service-when-running-a-docker-container | 20:21 |
| jcastro | it's ok, docker doesn't enforce a specific workflow, so when you let people do what they want, they can paint themselves into a corner | 20:22 |
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