[01:00] <DosTuMai> http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1445336999332.webm
[01:00] <DosTuMai> Slight musical interlude. =P
[01:00] <daftykins> it's like every current pop song
[01:01] <DosTuMai> xD
[01:21] <TJ-> That was interesting, seeing how far I could get in the -server rescue shell, to install a package manually.
[01:22] <daftykins> :)
[01:23] <TJ-> I'm going to see if I can further, when I have time. Create a small script to replace what dpkg does
[01:23] <Bashing-om> ^^ Because inquiring minds want to know !
[01:24] <TJ-> mkdir /test; cd /test; ar -x /cdrom/pool/main/s/smartmontools/smartmontools-$VERSION.deb; gunzip data.tar.gz; gunzip control.tar.gz; tar -xf data.tar; tar -xf control.tar;
[01:24] <TJ-> .deb files are AR archive files, with two gzipped tar files inside. data has the package's files, control has the packaging info
[01:26] <DosTuMai> More music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCnI4lccUmQ
[01:26] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Now that is pretty danged slick .. more than one way to skin a cat ( linux, many paths to an end) .
[01:28] <TJ-> Bashing-om: still got to get it to run, that would only work if no libraries were required
[01:29] <TJ-> I copied files into the root file-system too, from /test/usr/sbin/ to /usr/sbin/ for example
[01:30] <TJ-> but then executing /usr/sbin/smartctl reported libselinux0 missing. Well that's a dependency, so I realised I'd have to have a script that reads the "Depends:" line from the 'control' file, iterate each dependency, and extract/copy-into-place, too
[01:34] <Bashing-om> man who knows his tools .
[01:34] <daftykins> lot of work though ;)
[01:35] <TJ-> daftykins: indeed; but interesting that if you're in a tight spot all is not lost
[01:46] <TJ-> What a great name for a Lego spokesman: Roar Rude Trangbaek !
[02:00] <Bashing-om> TJ-: ^^ indeed it is .. but where in the world did that pop up from ?
[02:01] <daftykins> XD
[02:08] <TJ-> Bashing-om: I was reading a BBC article about the Chinese artist Ai WeiWei, being refused a bulk supply of bricks by Lego because they judged his artwork to be a political statement
[02:08] <TJ-> see http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-34630829
[02:11] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Oh Yes ! This I too must see .
[02:12] <TJ-> Why doesn't Firefox have a "you have far too many tabs open, do you know there's 150!?" button?
[02:16] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Now if only the big arms companies/dealers had the same outlook as lego ! ( I do have 13 combat awards in 5 arenas )
[02:18] <TJ-> Yeah, Make Lego not War!
[03:16] <Bashing-om> I too have had it for this session . Let us all have more fun tomorrow .
[03:17] <daftykins> :D
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:29] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> hi lordievader
[07:40] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje, how are you?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> fine tnx mate
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> about to breakfast here
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> hi JanC
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/superb-ubuntu-mate-gold-edition-proposed-by-user-video-495315.shtml#sgal_0
[15:38] <lotuspsychje> cube+wobbly windows+gold nice nice
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> if he gave me a $ for each time he says 'gold' i would be rich lol
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> ioriaaaaaaa
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> va bene?
[15:53] <ioria> @a  vabien
[15:53] <ioria> ça va bien
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> bene bene
[15:54] <ioria> :P
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> ioria: just watched this: http://news.softpedia.com/news/superb-ubuntu-mate-gold-edition-proposed-by-user-video-495315.shtml#sgal_0
[15:55] <ioria> let me see that
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon OerHeks :p
[15:57] <OerHeks> hi lotuspsychje
[15:57] <ioria> yeah...  it  looks  fascinating ..
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> hi philipballew and BluesKaj
[15:58] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje forgot ot add discuss after the upgrade last week
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: dont worry, we getting more crowdy here every day :p
[15:59] <ioria> uhh  ...  the gold sparkles ,,,,
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> ioria: not bad huh the compiz effects
[15:59] <ioria> yep... captivating
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> i love wobbly windows myself
[16:00] <ioria> it's  the first setting i do
[16:00] <ioria> like jelly fish
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> yeah :p
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> eyecandy ubuntu is rocknroll
[16:02] <BluesKaj> used wobbly windows to impress my windows user friends
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> yeah its very fun
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> with 4 workspaces slides
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> wobbly windows is an extra now unity-plugins-extras or something
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> !info unity-plugins-extra
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> !info unity-plugin-extras
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> !find unity plugin
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[16:11] <OerHeks> !info compiz-plugins-extra
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: tnx :p
[16:12] <OerHeks> i flipped out the channel for that url
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> :p
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> :p
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> good evening daftykins
[16:34] <daftykins> \o
[16:34] <daftykins> i've been lurking ;)
[16:34] <daftykins> just been researching a graphics card and high resolution monitor for someone
[16:35] <daftykins> you have to climb up the graphics card models quite some way before you get to a card that has displayport :/
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> chipset and ubuntu?
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> Chrissem: did you check shadow of mordor on ubuntu?
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> linux gaming getting real nice
[16:44] <Chrissem> y
[16:44] <Chrissem> steam is doing alot
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> if the gaming industry would be smart, they would release linux versions aswell
[16:47] <daftykins> not really, it's too niche and a nightmare to look after :)
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> one of these days something magic will happen for linux gaming,youl see :p
[16:49]  * wileee dreams of the matrix life
[16:49]  * lotuspsychje follows the white rabbit
[17:04] <daftykins> my my, these ones that want a hand holding
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:04] <lotuspsychje> why do we always get the bulldogs :p
[17:05] <Chrissem> lotuspsychje: no not jet
[17:06] <lotuspsychje> Chrissem: ?
[17:10] <Chrissem> lotuspsychje: i never checked out shadow of mordor on ubuntu
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> Chrissem: check trailer, its running on linux
[17:10] <BluesKaj> Chrissem, LOTRO?
[17:11] <daftykins> lord of the rabbits online
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:11] <BluesKaj> heh
[17:12] <wileee> in a better scenario we help less and congratulate users who figure it out with the least or needed info, rather than hold hands or leave them fixed with no idea really how. ;)
[17:13] <Chrissem> no i normaly play games on my windows box
[17:14] <lotuspsychje> yeah lot of nice games on windows: virus
[17:14] <Chrissem> :D
[17:15] <daftykins> hrmm can't think why motaka is having such a hard time with a USB keyboard
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: should be working out of the box right
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> if bios enabled usb mouse+keyboard
[17:16] <daftykins> ja
[17:18] <wileee> daftykins, That user has been having a problem of some sort for last couple of years, I think really young maybe, hard to say.
[17:19] <wileee> some don't hang in the fix mindset
[17:19] <daftykins> mmm, could be
[17:23] <BluesKaj> been trying to convince wifey to switch her pc to linux , but she plays LOTRO and D&D which are Turbine games that aren't ported to linux yet
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> yeah thats too bad
[17:25] <daftykins> i dunno, i find it quite ridiculous if someone comes in and wants to play games with Linux still, i know it's changing but why make life harder for yourself :)
[17:27] <wileee> I would want any game to run best is all, but I'm not a user
[17:31] <daftykins> *nod*
[17:32] <BluesKaj> yeah I'm not crazy about Wine either
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/kubuntu-and-ubuntu-councils-issue-joint-statement-495331.shtml
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> good evening Bashing-om
[18:31] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: o/ Hey .. I miss much while horizontal ?
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: its been pretty crowdy yes
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> and lordievader upgraded to xenial :p
[18:33] <lordievader> Not really what you call an 'upgrade' ;)
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:33] <daftykins> :D
[18:33] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: i wonder what will change after 29 oct
[18:34] <lordievader> In other news I broke my main workstation with a Qt update... -.-
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> oh..
[18:34] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: ' xenial ' ! Someone must lead the way . Wonder how the change from upstart to systemd is going to go . My biggests worry .
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> yeah never tested systemd myself neither
[18:35] <lotuspsychje> pretty curious how fast it will loadup on my ssd's
[18:36] <lordievader> SDDM/Plasma is like Qt5.5 ain't Qt5.4! Crash!!
[18:36] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: 14.04 is my work horse . No big hurry to upgrade to 16.04 .. but prior prudent planning to prevent piss poor performance !
[18:36] <lordievader> You'd think it would be somewhat backwards compatible.
[18:37] <Bashing-om> lordievader: Yuk .. once more .. coping with version control .
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> its raining again in #ubuntu-release
[18:42] <OerHeks> raining cats & dogs & werewolfs?
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> lol and groundhogs and squirrels yes
[18:43] <OerHeks> complete Shuttleworth-ZOO ?
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> haha
[18:43] <OerHeks>                        6bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
[18:44] <OerHeks> = protest from Drabber
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:44] <OerHeks> Thy shall not sit with ya tail on the keyboard!
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: your protesting against the big top god?
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> loool
[18:45] <OerHeks> He is seeking attention when my fingers run over the keyboard
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje  are you pregnant?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust, EriC^^
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/kubuntu-and-ubuntu-councils-issue-joint-statement-495331.shtml
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> oops wrong paste
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> \ MOOOO                              /
[18:55] <lotuspsychje>  ------------------------------------
[18:55] <lotuspsychje>         \   ^__^
[18:55] <lotuspsychje>          \  (oo)\_______
[18:55] <lotuspsychje>             (__)\       )\/\
[18:55] <lotuspsychje>                 ||----w |
[18:55] <lotuspsychje>                 ||     ||
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> set this channel to your favorites \
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> \ MOOOO
[18:56] <EriC^^> lol
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> lol
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: im having a xenial baby in 9 months
[18:59] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, are you the father?
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> loool
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> yikes
[19:00] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Are you aware of similar ? In terminal ' apt-get moo ' .
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> wow thats new!
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> looks like a birdcow
[19:06] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: A moo is good to releive the stress .
[19:06]  * lotuspsychje looks up the sky to find some stress
[19:15] <lordievader> \o/ downgrade of qt went faster than expected :D
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: back up n running now?
[19:19] <lordievader> Looks like it.
[19:45] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/10/xiaomi-laptop-2016-launch
[20:20] <lotuspsychje_> nitenite to all
[21:10] <daftykins> what is '10x' o0
[21:11] <OerHeks> 10 kisses perhaps
[21:12] <daftykins> hehe, nasty ;)
[21:13] <OerHeks> watch out for the flu
[21:14] <daftykins> yep and colds at this time of year!
[21:18] <OerHeks> Not all the leaves have fallen here.
[21:18] <OerHeks> And living near the coast gives soft weather, although it can be watercold
[21:24] <daftykins> *nod*
[21:28] <OerHeks> Walking outside shorter than 20 minutes harms the health of my dog. jippie
[21:28] <daftykins> you will be hardened against the weather :D
[23:16] <daftykins> lol 3GB install bloated, make me laugh these users
[23:17] <TJ-> It is!
[23:17] <TJ-> 80MB is a nice minimal install
[23:19] <daftykins> ;)
[23:19] <daftykins> for a server? :D
[23:22] <TJ-> Yeah, don't need much, especially for VM instances
[23:24] <daftykins> that's not really what i had in mind
[23:25] <TJ-> kernel, minimal libraries, daemon service :)
[23:26] <daftykins> i was thinking standard ubuntu desktop
[23:34] <TJ-> Oh :)
[23:34] <TJ-> There's a lot of cruft gets installed along the way these days
[23:35] <daftykins> but when you know Windows you don't consider <4GB bloat :D
[23:38] <TJ-> True!
[23:49] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[23:49] <daftykins> hallo thar, how do?
[23:50] <pauljw> good thanks, and you?
[23:50] <daftykins> mmm not bad ta :) little bit of newbie overload in multiple channels today though
[23:50] <pauljw> :)
[23:51] <OerHeks> rookies
[23:51] <TJ-> I stayed away :)
[23:51] <OerHeks> I haven't even upgraded yet.
[23:52] <pauljw> I'm waiting for 16.04
[23:53] <TJ-> Aside from all the regressions that have bit me, I'm finding 15.10 reasonable.
[23:53] <pauljw> good to hear  :)
[23:53] <daftykins> LTS \o/
[23:53] <daftykins> also on server only, makes life easy ;)
[23:54] <pauljw> yeah, I'm not that adventurous to need the latest version of everything.  prefer stable.
[23:55] <daftykins> i get annoyed enough with the regular kernel updates
[23:55] <daftykins> i should probably learn how ksplice works at some point
[23:56] <pauljw> kernel updates have bitten me a couple of times, nothing serious.
[23:58] <pauljw> discovered that I had inadvertently selected "proposed" updates and that caused my system to use a kernel that caused a boot issue.  I have since unselected those updates and hope to avoid future problems.
[23:59] <daftykins> nasty!
[23:59] <daftykins> "dear pauljw we propose to break your install!" :D
[23:59] <pauljw> :)
[23:59] <TJ-> ksplice is dead