| darkxst | eliasps, where did you get with the clutter SRU paperwork? you can just use the NEWS log for impact, general smoke test for test-case etc... | 04:04 |
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| eliasps | darkxst I'm almost ready with the paperwork. People from the bug control told me that it would be bonus points for the sru team if I set up a PPA to test clutter and whatever dependencies that need sru also because of it. So I'm doing that now. | 05:10 |
| eliasps | I'll send it to you tomorrow if not later today. | 05:11 |
| darkxst | there should be any other dependencies | 05:20 |
| eliasps | just libcogl-dev only, which will need to be sru'd too. | 05:25 |
| darkxst | eliasps, normally wouldnt sru a major release | 05:32 |
| darkxst | can you cherry-pick the patch the introduces api change that clutter needs | 05:32 |
| eliasps | I can try! I'll let you know. | 05:33 |
| darkxst | either way we want to end up with this fix https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=745517 | 05:39 |
| ubot5 | Gnome bug 745517 in general "gnome-shell crashed with SIGABRT in g_assertion_message()" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] | 05:39 |
| darkxst | eliasps, cogl update *might* get through its mostly just bug fixes, perhaps check with one of the sru vangaurds | 05:54 |
| eliasps | Since it's a sync from debian, clutter will be updated in xenial when autosync is on anyway. Should I mention that on the report? | 05:58 |
| darkxst | already landed in xenial | 06:02 |
| darkxst | along with a quite a chunk of 3.18 | 06:04 |
| eliasps | Ok, I thinks that's good since we are talking about a backport from an LTS version, right? I mean it must have some gravity on the request. | 06:05 |
| darkxst | no, not really, its more micro releases are ok for sru | 06:06 |
| darkxst | feature releases are not | 06:06 |
| darkxst | though cogl looks more like a micro release, but with a major version bump to me | 06:07 |
| darkxst | eliasps, btw http://phillw.net/ubuntu-gnome/xenial318.html | 06:07 |
| eliasps | I'll read the stuff on that bug. | 06:07 |
| eliasps | Great! I'll be keeping track of the packages for builds. | 06:07 |
| darkxst | eliasps, and another one, http://people.canonical.com/~platform/desktop/gnome.html | 06:08 |
| darkxst | the latter is far more complete, but has many packages we don't normally deal with | 06:10 |
| darkxst | ricotz, the flood gates have opened! just need a gtk and 3.18 can be done in a week | 06:13 |
| eliasps | I see. I'll be watching them both. | 06:13 |
| eliasps | darkxst, when using sbuild, do you have also a larga amount of data filling up your root fs? | 06:15 |
| eliasps | large | 06:15 |
| darkxst | eliasps, its not really on your root fs | 06:16 |
| ricotz | darkxst, afaik Laney took a look at it while ignoring the gnome3 package (as usual) -- https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/5590762/+listing-archive-extra | 06:16 |
| darkxst | or it might be depending on where you chroots are | 06:16 |
| eliasps | It's not in the chroot, or is it? Files like that? /var/lib/schroot/union/underlay/wily-amd64-f9e190a0-549e-40ce-85d4-94d36b6bc534 | 06:17 |
| eliasps | I have a bunch of those. | 06:17 |
| darkxst | eliasps, they are bind-mounts | 06:17 |
| darkxst | think they end up in tmpfs by default | 06:18 |
| darkxst | there may be a bug that causes them to hang around | 06:18 |
| darkxst | I vaguely remember making some changes locally for that | 06:19 |
| ricotz | darkxst, grilo-plugins needs some care to make gnome-music installable | 06:19 |
| eliasps | there are about 67.000 of them. Anyway, I'll search it out. | 06:20 |
| darkxst | ricotz, gah, typo | 06:22 |
| darkxst | fixed | 06:23 |
| darkxst | eliasps, I have like 4 here | 06:24 |
| ricotz | darkxst, alright | 06:25 |
| darkxst | eliasps, there is a debian bug somewhere, they can't change the default since it break certain use cases (but I don't need those so ok) | 06:27 |
| eliasps | I see this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=%23709774 | 06:31 |
| eliasps | Anyway, there is plenty of documentation for configuring it. I'll try to fix it. | 06:31 |
| darkxst | eliasps, sbuild already uses tmpfs by default on ubuntu, don't think that is the bug I was thinking | 06:35 |
| darkxst | there is one about bind mounts not getting cleaned up | 06:35 |
| darkxst | possibly related to the mount options in fstab | 06:35 |
| eliasps | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775423 | 06:37 |
| ubot5 | Debian bug 775423 in schroot "schroot: Better tools for tidying old chroot sessions needed." [Wishlist,Open] | 06:37 |
| eliasps | Cleared 10 GBs... | 06:37 |
| darkxst | nope, keep looking! | 06:40 |
| darkxst | eliasps, paste your /etc/schroot/sbuild/fstab | 06:45 |
| eliasps | I set that up using the documentation in Ubuntu wiki: http://pastebin.com/6MQhcGg2 | 06:47 |
| eliasps | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild | 06:47 |
| darkxst | thats more or less what I have, apart from the extra mounts I added | 06:51 |
| eliasps | It's ok, I'll be cleaning the old sessions manually. I don't mind if it's not being done automatically. | 06:52 |
| darkxst | eliasps, ok, it only needs a simple config change, but can't remember or find where what I changed that once! | 06:53 |
| eliasps | I'll keep searching and if I found it then ok. If not, I'll be doing it manually. Now that I know how it's not really a problem anymore! | 06:54 |
| darkxst | eliasps, I don't think they really take up disk space? they a dangling mounts (atleast after a reboot) | 06:57 |
| eliasps | After running schroot -e --all-sessions all those files got removed, totalling up to 10gb. | 07:00 |
| darkxst | ok | 07:05 |
| * mgedmin is trying to force himself to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates | 07:05 | |
| darkxst | mgedmin, its done | 07:05 |
| mgedmin | the SRU? awesome! | 07:05 |
| darkxst | the paperwork and upload anyway | 07:07 |
| darkxst | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1418771 | 07:07 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1418771 in tracker (Ubuntu Wily) "gjs-console assert failure: *** Error in `/usr/bin/gjs-console': free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x00007f74a804b240 ***" [Medium,Triaged] | 07:07 |
| MaverickPT | hi | 10:26 |
| MaverickPT | have installed ubuntu gnome 15.10 and am getting an error | 10:26 |
| MaverickPT | usr/bin/Xorg | 10:27 |
| MaverickPT | any ideas? | 10:28 |
| MaverickPT | what a helpful bunch of chaps you all are | 10:35 |
| mgedmin | that was not a very error-like message | 10:38 |
| noobie_ | hellp | 12:02 |
| noobie_ | hello | 12:02 |
| noobie_ | can i ask for help here? | 12:02 |
| mgedmin | always, assuming it's on topic ;) | 12:03 |
| noobie_ | :) | 12:08 |
| noobie_ | i've been trying ubuntu-gnome for like a week, but after using it, i guess stock unity works better for me | 12:08 |
| noobie_ | i've installed unity using "apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" | 12:08 |
| noobie_ | now im wondering if i need to do anything beside this? | 12:09 |
| noobie_ | i have lot of apps installed already and data copied... would prefer to keep them | 12:10 |
| mgedmin | right, let me double-check | 12:14 |
| mgedmin | I think you have to apt-get remove ubuntu-gnome-defaults | 12:14 |
| mgedmin | err, -default-settings? | 12:14 |
| mgedmin | right, ubuntu-gnome-default-settings | 12:14 |
| mgedmin | remove it | 12:14 |
| noobie_ | done! | 12:15 |
| noobie_ | do i need to reinstall ubuntu-desktop? | 12:15 |
| mgedmin | and I think you need to apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ with the ^ at the end, which is some special syntax that I don't quite understand | 12:15 |
| noobie_ | oook | 12:15 |
| mgedmin | something related to "tasks", whatever they are | 12:15 |
| noobie_ | yep, it seem that its doing something else | 12:16 |
| mgedmin | ah, and install ubuntu-default-settings | 12:16 |
| mgedmin | and apt-get remove gdm -- as long as lightdm is installed, that is, you don't want to be left with no display manager at all ;) | 12:16 |
| mgedmin | or just dpkg-reconfigure lightdm and when it asks choose lightdm | 12:17 |
| * mgedmin is mentally translating https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/Installation#Cross-grading_from_Ubuntu_To_Ubuntu_GNOME into the opposite | 12:17 | |
| noobie_ | mmm for ubuntu-default-settings its saying that its a virtual package | 12:18 |
| noobie_ | and i have to select one from a list | 12:18 |
| mgedmin | huh | 12:18 |
| noobie_ | ubuntukylin-default-settings 1.3.11 ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn 0.12 ubuntu-defaults-nl-nl 6 ubuntu-defaults-it 0.2.3 ubuntu-business-defaults 38 | 12:18 |
| mgedmin | I guess there's no defaults package for stock ubuntu | 12:18 |
| noobie_ | ok | 12:19 |
| mgedmin | I wonder why the wiki suggests removing it when you cross-grade from Ubuntu to Ubuntu GNOME | 12:19 |
| mgedmin | outdated info from earlier releases maybe? | 12:19 |
| noobie_ | or maybe a just in case for people coming from kylin? | 12:19 |
| noobie_ | mgedmin, help very much appreciated | 12:20 |
| mgedmin | almost every derivative has its own $foo-default-settings package | 12:20 |
| mgedmin | so, I'm not 100% sure this removed every trace of ubuntu-gnome | 12:20 |
| mgedmin | but I have no better list of instructions | 12:20 |
| noobie_ | good enough i feel | 12:20 |
| noobie_ | i will try a restart now | 12:20 |
| mgedmin | if you find some, I dunno, gnome'ish splash screens during startup/shutdown, search for other package names | 12:20 |
| mgedmin | if I had the patience, I'd install ubuntu and ubuntu gnome in two virtual machines | 12:20 |
| mgedmin | and compare the lists of installed packages (dpkg -l) | 12:21 |
| mgedmin | that's all that differs | 12:21 |
| noobie_ | k, be right back, i think this will work good enough | 12:21 |
| noobie_ | hi again | 12:25 |
| noobie_ | it looks like its all ok, except for the splash boot screen, wich still shows the ubuntu-gnome logo | 12:25 |
| noobie_ | but i dont mind that | 12:25 |
| noobie_ | everything else works and the Xorg errors on boot are now gone | 12:26 |
| noobie_ | Thanks a lot mgedmin | 12:26 |
| mgedmin | yay | 12:27 |
| mgedmin | incidentally, what did you like better about unity? | 12:27 |
| mgedmin | the splash screen comes from plymouth-theme-ubuntu-gnome-logo | 12:28 |
| mgedmin | you may want to remove it and install plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo instead | 12:29 |
| mgedmin | I wonder how plymouth chooses the theme if multiple are installed? | 12:29 |
| noobie_ | i will check on that later | 12:29 |
| mgedmin | /usr/share/doc/plymouth/README.Debian answers | 12:30 |
| mgedmin | "sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth" and "sudo update-initramfs -u" | 12:30 |
| noobie_ | thx | 12:30 |
| noobie_ | done too :) | 12:32 |
| nabn_ | hi. I installed/uninstalled elementary-desktop on ubuntu-gnome 15.10, and now gnome-control-center does not open. On the teminal, it says "Settings schema 'org.pantheon.dpms' is not installed". Is there any way i can fix this? | 15:55 |
| mgedmin | sure | 15:56 |
| mgedmin | the question is how | 15:56 |
| mgedmin | have you tried sudo apt-get autoremove? | 15:56 |
| mgedmin | here's what I think happens: elementary-desktop pulled in some package that installed a .desktop launcher for an extra gnome-control-center applet | 15:56 |
| mgedmin | when you removed elementary-desktop, that extra package remained behind | 15:57 |
| mgedmin | but it depends on the 'org.pantheon.dpms' gsettings schema, that got removed somehow | 15:57 |
| mgedmin | maybe apt-get autoremove will remove that package | 15:57 |
| nabn_ | mgedmin: yes. i have tried apt-get autoremove. I've purged and reinstalled gnome-shell. Still didn't fix this | 15:57 |
| mgedmin | if not, you'll have to hunt it down by hand | 15:58 |
| mgedmin | step 1: grep -l X-GNOME-Settings-Panel /usr/share/applications/*.desktops | 15:58 |
| nabn_ | mgedmin: i'm willing to go down that path. should i look under /usr/share/applications or sth? | 15:58 |
| mgedmin | step 2: grep -l X-GNOME-Settings-Panel /usr/share/applications/*.desktop|xargs -l dpkg -S | 15:59 |
| nabn_ | mgedmin: nothing there.. | 16:00 |
| mgedmin | actually step 2 is probably enough | 16:00 |
| nabn_ | step 1, i meant. | 16:00 |
| mgedmin | it shows package: filename for all the control center launchers | 16:00 |
| mgedmin | step 1 has a typo | 16:00 |
| mgedmin | (sorry) | 16:00 |
| mgedmin | anyway, it's not necessary; step 2 supersedes it | 16:00 |
| nabn_ | mgedmin: that's cool. i get a list.. but nothing looks like settings | 16:01 |
| nabn_ | mgedmin: should i give you a pastebin? | 16:01 |
| mgedmin | on my system the packages that have the launchers are: gnome-control-center, language-selector-gnome, system-config-printer-gnome and software-properties-gtk | 16:01 |
| mgedmin | yeah, pastebin | 16:01 |
| mgedmin | or look for packages not mentioned in my list | 16:01 |
| mgedmin | also, hey, elementary-desktop is not in the main ubuntu archive | 16:02 |
| mgedmin | did you use a PPA or something? | 16:02 |
| mgedmin | you may need to use ppa-purge | 16:02 |
| mgedmin | maybe your version of gnome-control-center is patched? | 16:02 |
| nabn_ | mgedmin: yeah. a PPA | 16:02 |
| mgedmin | do you know about ppa-purge? | 16:02 |
| nabn_ | mgedmin: not much, actually. (ppa-purge) | 16:03 |
| nabn_ | about gnome-control-center, i apt-get purged it and reinsttalled it | 16:03 |
| nabn_ | http://pastebin.com/jAX21NPB | 16:03 |
| mgedmin | ppa-purge ppa:foo/bar downgrades all the packages you got from the PPA into stock ubuntu versions before removing the PPA from apt sources | 16:05 |
| mgedmin | 'light-locker-settings' is suspicious | 16:06 |
| nabn_ | i googled it, and it looks like its the login screen | 16:06 |
| mgedmin | it's the lock screen from lubuntu/xubuntu, apparently | 16:06 |
| mgedmin | so, probably a red herring | 16:06 |
| nabn_ | mgedmin: should i try removing it? | 16:07 |
| mgedmin | can't hurt, but probably won't help | 16:07 |
| mgedmin | apt-cache policy gnome-control-center? | 16:07 |
| mgedmin | what does it say about the version you've got installed? | 16:08 |
| nabn_ | installed: 1:3.16.3-0ubuntu1 | 16:08 |
| mgedmin | that's stock wily | 16:08 |
| mgedmin | hmm | 16:08 |
| mgedmin | ok, bigger hammer: apt-show-versions | grep -v uptodate | grep -v 'not installed' | 16:08 |
| mgedmin | will show any installed packages that don't match the version in the ubuntu archive | 16:08 |
| mgedmin | you may need to sudo apt-get install apt-show-versions first | 16:09 |
| mgedmin | usually this shows a few outdated kernel packages and that's it | 16:09 |
| nabn_ | that's a huge list. what should i be looking for, please? | 16:11 |
| mgedmin | oh, my | 16:12 |
| mgedmin | I would remove every package in that list, except those I want | 16:12 |
| mgedmin | things like google-talkplugin | 16:13 |
| mgedmin | and old kernels I don't mind having for backup | 16:13 |
| mgedmin | pastebin? | 16:13 |
| nabn_ | mgedmin: sure. i'm removing a few suspicious programs. | 16:14 |
| nabn_ | http://pastebin.com/EGJsAmhQ | 16:15 |
| mgedmin | switchboard-gnome-control-center-override looks especially suspicious | 16:16 |
| mgedmin | things like skype and neovim you may want to keep | 16:16 |
| mgedmin | and dropbox, atom | 16:17 |
| nabn_ | mgedmin: thanks. i'll try doing that | 16:17 |
| mgedmin | basically, I think if you remove all packages from that list that begin with "switchboard", gnome-control-center ought to start working again | 16:18 |
| mgedmin | but I would remove almost everything ;) | 16:18 |
| mgedmin | keeping the system clean etc. | 16:18 |
| nabn_ | mgedmin: aaah! it's back! :D | 16:19 |
| nabn_ | removed the override thing, and reinstalled control-center | 16:19 |
| nabn_ | but i'll go ahead and remove the others too, the ones i don't want. | 16:20 |
| nabn_ | mgedmin: thanks for the help! appreciate it! | 16:22 |
| mgedmin | you're welcome! | 16:22 |
| * mgedmin disappears mysteriously | 16:23 | |
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