[00:02] <th3s3_3y3s> What is the smallest installable iso for i386?
[00:09] <TJ-> A network installer netinst image
[00:10] <th3s3_3y3s> installable iso
[00:10] <th3s3_3y3s> ubuntu desktop is over 1 G
[00:10] <JanC> Ubuntu doesn't support !385
[00:11] <JanC> i385
[00:11] <JanC> eh
[00:11] <JanC> i386
[00:12] <JanC> *grr*
[00:12] <OerHeks> only lubuntu, server and mini iso fit on cd
[00:13] <JanC> and then only for some i686 plus level hardware
[00:33] <th3s3_3y3s> ok
[00:34] <th3s3_3y3s> and only some have torrents is that so?
[00:34] <th3s3_3y3s> when running dialup speeds torrent is useful to resume
[01:19] <th3s3_3y3s> hmm
[04:15] <XIX> Hello. I'm trying to find an open source, free (as in money), enterprise level backup solution. Any recommendations? Thanks in advance.
[07:26] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:42] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me what im doing wrong here ... I get Read only from 10 and 2 /mnt/files1 10.0.0.2(rw) 10.0.0.10(rw) 10.0.0.0/24(ro)
[07:45] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me what im doing wrong here ... I get Read only from 10 and 2 /mnt/files1 10.0.0.2(rw) 10.0.0.10(rw) 10.0.0.0/24(ro) oh sorry ... NFS Export on file server
[07:57] <th3s3_3y3s> Is it morning lordievader?
[09:21] <th3s3_3y3s> put this on autopilot
[09:21] <th3s3_3y3s> going away
[10:56] <pmatulis> morning
[10:56] <bittin> morning
[11:22] <th3s3_3y3s> what do you want
[11:42] <pmatulis> submarine, castle, etc
[13:20] <MacroMan> I've been reading up on interupts and irqbalance.
[14:03] <jcastro> hey jgrimm, I've submitted 5 sessions for the cloud track for Juju
[14:03] <jcastro> so if you want to fill out the rest we'd be done. :)
[15:38] <yossarianuk> hi - one of my DEV team just accidentally chmod'ed -R /var to their user....
[15:39] <jpds> yossarianuk: Sweet
[15:39] <jpds> yossarianuk: Why did you give them sudo?
[15:39] <yossarianuk> I know on redhat systems you have something like -> 'rpm --setperms --setguids '
[15:39] <yossarianuk> is there an equivalent for deb systems
[15:40] <yossarianuk> jpds: well its a dev systems (not live/PRD) and they are meant to be an 'expert'
[15:47] <thebwt> yossarianuk: you're best bet is something like this article, http://hyperlogos.org/page/Restoring-Permissions-Debian-System
[15:47] <thebwt> using apt or dpkg to get a package list and doing a reinstall fo sorts
[15:47] <thebwt> however, you should make sure you back up everything first
[15:48] <thebwt> and until that's all done, don't reboot. The system probably won't boot right now.
[15:48] <teward> yossarianuk: you should also NOT give your dev team sudo
[15:48] <teward> ever
[15:48] <teward> again
[15:48] <teward> (most dev teams don't *need* sudo)
[15:49] <thebwt> That's there prerogative. A dev server, it can help get rid of red tape. Just make sure you're taking backups and could recreate the server from nothing.
[15:49] <teward> (point missed)
[15:51] <jpds> thebwt: No, you get rid of red tape by giving them VMs on the server, without giving them sudo on the server
[15:51] <thebwt> do we know this wasn't a VM?
[15:51] <thebwt> I assumed it was a vm or a cloud server just because that would be sensible
[15:52] <yossarianuk> teward: thebwt: cheers for the advice - the person previously worked for google... (I assumed he would have known better..)
[15:52] <thebwt> yossarianuk: fat fingers happen
[15:54] <yossarianuk> thebwt: yep it was ./.* that did it......
[15:54] <thebwt> been there, done that.
[15:57] <teward> yossarianuk: backups are highly important.  or individual VMs :P
[18:26] <wmp> hello, on 14.04 on ubuntu kernel i have problem with NIC
[18:26] <wmp> x552/x557-at this is my NIC
[18:27] <wmp> on this kenel NIC havent negotiate speed
[18:27] <wmp> on kenrel form OVH all works
[18:34] <sarnold> wmp: you could try one of the newer hardware enablement stacks and see if that helps, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack for some information
[18:36] <wmp> sarnold: thanks, but i thinks that dont help
[18:36] <wmp> when i build my own kernel based on OVH configuraiton, i have this same problem...
[18:38] <sarnold> wmp: interesting, I wonder what they did differently.
[18:38] <wmp> sarnold: maybe any firmware or patch?
[18:39] <wmp> now i compiling older kernnel version
[18:39] <sarnold> wmp: iirc most firmwares are in the linux-firmware package
[18:42] <fuzzywuzzzy> Anyone using a landscape alternative that is fully FOSS
[18:45] <teward> fuzzywuzzzy: what exactly are you trying to achieve with this 'FOSS' alternative?  All the same functions?  I think you'll have issues with that, because there's not one thing that does *all* the things that Landscape does in the way Landscape does it
[18:46] <fuzzywuzzzy> teward, I'd like simple, centralized patch management
[18:46] <fuzzywuzzzy> no need for a webgui or stats
[18:51] <wmp> sarnold: on this same version of kernel that has ovh i havent any NIC...
[18:53] <fuzzywuzzzy> I
[18:54] <fuzzywuzzzy> I've only got 6 servers to manage and Landscape is way too much $$$
[18:55] <sarnold> for an installation that small you may be able to use landscape for free, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/549809/how-do-i-install-landscape-for-personal-use for some information
[18:59] <fuzzywuzzzy> sarnold, Thanks but I may grow significantly soon so I'd like something else
[19:00] <sarnold> fuzzywuzzzy: fair enough :)
[19:03] <fuzzywuzzzy> sarnold, You know how it is. My big budget is $0.00 =P
[19:22] <fuzzywuzzzy> Anyone ever use pssh?
[19:23] <RoyK> fuzzywuzzzy: what's in it? I use mosh
[19:29] <sarnold> RoyK: pssh is parallel ssh, it runs commands on multiple hosts simultaneously, or something similar anyway :)
[19:29] <fuzzywuzzzy> Yes, mosh is more for roaming
[19:30] <sarnold> fuzzywuzzzy: it feels like the kind of thing that probably works alright on e.g. six hosts but doesn't feel like it'll go well beyond that
[19:30] <sarnold> fuzzywuzzzy: once you reach some density, you're going to have upgrades failing for funny reasons, and you'll have messes to clean up on individual machines more and more often, at some point ansible or puppet or chef or similar is going to be more reliable and worth the extra work
[19:34] <wmp> sarnold: unfortunately on 15.10 i have this same problem... link is not detected...
[19:34] <fuzzywuzzzy> Ansible is a ripoff!  WTH?
[19:34] <sarnold> fuzzywuzzzy: never tried it myself.
[19:34] <fuzzywuzzzy> Puppet is really only free for 10 users
[19:34] <sarnold> wmp: please file bugs, 15.10 is pretty new and ought to support it
[19:35] <fuzzywuzzzy> all of those are cloud focused or moving in the direction.
[19:35] <sarnold> fuzzywuzzzy: all I know is that it isn't salt, I've got a very low opinion of salt devs after they picked the RSA expoonent '1'. idiots.
[20:04] <thebwt> spacewalk has beta level ubuntu support
[20:04] <thebwt> re: fuzzywuzzy
[20:05] <th3s3_3y3s> What options have you for virtualization?
[20:05] <th3s3_3y3s> For working with android.
[20:05] <thebwt> The main android sdk has a virt system built in
[20:06] <thebwt> beyond that, #ubuntu-servers may not be the right place to ask
[20:07] <teward> there's always kvm with arm emulation, but that's been glitchy as far as I can tell.  the Android SDK is a good first stop though
[20:07] <teward> there's also supposedly a VMware image for Android that runs on non-arm, but as thebwt stated, #ubuntu-servers is probably not the right place to ask (start with the android support first)
[20:11] <th3s3_3y3s> teward, it looks like its plugged into a google issue system
[20:11] <th3s3_3y3s> teward, I've had problems finding support for android.
[20:12] <thebwt> th3s3_3y3s: #android and #android-dev should be more helpful
[20:12] <teward> ^ that
[20:12] <teward> (i was ninja'd)
[20:13] <th3s3_3y3s> ninja'd?
[20:13] <teward> slang for saying "thebtw beat me to saying the same thing"
[20:13] <th3s3_3y3s> thebwt, not usually
[20:13] <sarnold> but surely android channels nkow more about android than some random ubuntu channel?
[20:14] <th3s3_3y3s> shadow ring
[20:14] <th3s3_3y3s> It alters otherwise mean statistical probability.
[20:16] <th3s3_3y3s> Watch out for lollypop guild blasting your brain out with em radiation.
[20:16] <th3s3_3y3s> skyangel!
[20:17] <th3s3_3y3s> The dangers of using shadow ring.
[20:17] <th3s3_3y3s> Nueral net decides a lot of pathways useless.
[20:17] <th3s3_3y3s> And discontinues them.
[20:17] <teward> um, what?
[20:18] <th3s3_3y3s> teward, Do you have facebook or a picture?
[20:18] <teward> !offtopic
[20:30] <th3s3_3y3s> If ubuntu-server is selected for install does it remove ubuntu-desktop?
[20:36] <RoyK> sarnold: wouldn't you use MPI for that sort of things?
[20:40] <thebwt> th3s3_3y3s: there isn't an ubuntu-server metapackage
[20:41] <sarnold> RoyK: MPI feels more specific to an application; I wouldn't use MPI for "apt-get install vim" on ten machines..
[20:42] <sarnold> RoyK: it'd take some coding work to get that to work with MPI, and I don't know if MPI provides authenticated channels or not
[20:43] <jrwren> +1, MPI is for something else, and these days, I'd use mesos instead of MPI directly
[20:43] <jrwren> I used fabric to do a bit of that kind of small server maint a while back (before juju)
[20:44] <jrwren> err, this fabric http://www.fabfile.org, not fabric.io
[20:44] <RoyK> sarnold: for something as apt-get install on a bunch of machines, I'd use something like puppet or ansible
[20:46] <jrwren> RoyK: fabric is even simpler, IMO :)
[20:48] <RoyK> jrwren: url?
[20:49] <RoyK> got it
[20:50] <RoyK> what I really dislike with puppet is ruby
[20:50] <jrwren> RoyK: this is python :)
[20:50] <RoyK> jrwren: I know
[20:51] <th3s3_3y3s> thebwt ok
[20:51]  * RoyK likes perl, but then, it seems perl isn't going anywhere and that python is taking over :(
[20:51] <jrwren> I like perl too. it is so stable and done.
[20:52] <th3s3_3y3s> pathologically ecclectic
[20:52] <jrwren> a lot of the things these server admin things do, cfengine did almost 20yrs ago
[20:53] <RoyK> th3s3_3y3s: Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister :)
[20:54] <th3s3_3y3s> RoyK, The cool drives python.
[20:54] <th3s3_3y3s> Is there a way to merge python and perl?
[20:55] <RoyK> th3s3_3y3s: hardly, but perl regex is supported in python
[21:11] <dmor> Hi guys, how are you? network install related question: one of my clients using appliances with 14.04.1 (which used in development, QA, unit-testing, etc.). I've installed Foreman 1.92 in-order for him to commit network installation with preseed. Foreman uses Ubuntu mirror which installs the latest version which is 14.04.3. I'm trying to find the w
[21:11] <dmor> ay (if it's possible) to let the preseed file/installer know that I need 14.04.1 specifically. Can't find anything about such configurations. Is it possible? if yes, how?
[21:12] <dmor> How can I ask the Ubuntu installer to install specific "minor" version? is it possible to use the relevant ISO as installation source for network-based installs? (tried - didn't worked so much)
[21:14] <bekks> dmor: install a syystem using your own repositories holding the versions you want.
[21:14] <bekks> dmor: but whats the point in not installing latest patches?
[21:17] <dmor> bekks: 1. How can I do it?
[21:17] <bekks> dmor: 1. tell us how you did
[21:18] <dmor> bekks: I've tried few things:
[21:18] <dmor> 1. apt-mirror - the problem - will take the last version.
[21:18] <bekks> dmor: sorry, I was confused with another channel.
[21:18] <dmor> 2. Using the 14.04.1 ISO - just mount it, configure d-i live/installer for the squashfs. - not working
[21:18] <bekks> dmor: you would have needed to create your repo while the old release you want was the current one.
[21:19] <bekks> dmor: why dont you use 14.04.3 repos?
[21:19] <dmor> bekks: I totally understand it ;-). How it can be done?
[21:19] <dmor> Because the client currently can't update to 14.04.3. He will, not now. I'm trying to understand if it's possible. Can't find it on Google/offical docs and apparently also on the IRC ;-)
[21:19] <dmor> Is it possible to create local repo of 14.04.1 or use remote repo of 14.04.1?
[21:21] <dmor> bekks: any guidelines?
[21:22] <bekks> dmor: You cannot create a 14.04.1 repo anymore, since 14.04.1 is long gone now. The current release is at 14.04.3
[21:22] <dmor> bekks: 10x. So just to conclude: you're 100% sure it's NOT technically possible?
[21:23] <bekks> dmor: I am sure that you cannot create a full 14.04.1 anymore, since it doesnt exist anymore.
[21:23] <dmor> bekks: is there a way to tell apt to use specific version? 14.04.1 instead of 14.04.3? is is something possible?
[21:24] <bekks> As far as I know it is not possible, since those versions are not separated in the repos.
[21:24] <dmor> bekks: Sounds reasonable. In RHEL (for example) it's works differently. You have a directory for each version.
[21:25] <bekks> Ubuntu isnt RHEL :)
[21:25] <dmor> bekks: 10x a lot! One last question - is it possible to take the Ubuntu server ISO and create from it installation repository? I've tried with no luck. Maybe because of the fact it doesn't have all of the debs on it.
[21:25] <dmor> and RHEL is not Ubuntu ;-)
[21:26] <bekks> It isnt possible because it doesnt have all of the debs.
[21:26] <dmor> bekks: thanks a lot man. You've helped.
[21:26] <bekks> It only has all the debs needed for a plain install, without all updates, without additional software, etc.
[21:26] <bekks> Force your customer to use 14.04.3 - everything else isnt supported anymore.
[21:27] <dmor> And what will happen if next week 14.04.4 will be out? the same process again?
[21:27] <bekks> sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade;
[21:27] <dmor> A lot of comapnies uses not the latest OS version for their appliances/servers.
[21:27] <bekks> And you're fine :)
[21:28] <dmor> Just to make sure: dist-upgrade do what? install everything except Kernel updates, X updates and security fixes?
[21:28] <bekks> As you may just realized, the update policy on Ubuntu is totally different from RHEL.
[21:29] <bekks> dist-upgrade updates everything in 14.04, while not updating to 14.10
[21:29] <dmor> Yep. I'm a real Ubuntu fan, but in this specific bullet, it sounds less convenient I must say ;-\
[21:29] <dmor> EVERYTHING? including the Kernel?
[21:29] <bekks> For me, it sounds convinient, and Ihavent had any issues with that since 8.04 :)
[21:29] <bekks> dmor: Everything, including kernel updates.
[21:29] <dmor> So basically running dist-upgrade on 14.04.1 will create 14.04.3 like fresh install of 14.04.3?
[21:30] <bekks> It will use the same packages as (14.0.4.3 plus updates).
[21:30] <bekks> fixed: It will use the same packages as (14.04.3 plus updates).
[21:30] <dmor> Haven't got it yet ;-)
[21:30] <tarpman> not exactly: 14.04.1 and 14.04.3 have some different packages because of HWE
[21:31] <bekks> tarpman: Yeah, nbut old HWE arent supported anymore, once a new HWE is out.
[21:32] <dmor> guys - thanks a lot for your help.
[21:32] <dmor> It's really apprecaited.
[21:47] <elro> I’m having trouble running the wily images on ec2 c4 instance types. The ec2 console reports “instance reachability check failed” and I’m unable to ping or ssh in. It all works on the t2 instance types. Perhaps there is a kernel incompatibility? I’m using the 64bit hvm-ssd images.
[21:52] <elro> Looking at the boot log I see errors like this: cloud-init[1469]: 2015-10-26 20:45:49,887 - url_helper.py[WARNING]: Calling 'http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id' failed [0/120s]: request error [('Connection aborted.', OSError(101, 'Network is unreachable'))]
[21:52] <elro> so presumably the network never came up
[21:52] <teward> who do i bother for errant error messages on landscape.canonical.com?
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[22:18] <sarnold> thanks phunyguy :)
[22:18] <phunyguy> np.
[22:20] <RoyK> not even a spambot, afaics
[22:21] <GeekMan1222> da fuck
[22:22] <Seveas> it was an illuminati bot
[22:22] <OerHeks> interesting.
[22:23] <RoyK> what's an illuminati bot?
[22:24] <OerHeks> Those come alive with full moon.
[22:27] <th3s3_3y3s> according to pop culture they want to murder priests
[22:27] <GeekMan1222> lol
[22:27] <GeekMan1222> they came for the chat and left with my data
[22:28] <Overand> Huh.
[22:34] <pmatulis> teward: what errant messages?
[23:08] <th3s3_3y3s> the choice between red pill and blue pill or some sort of paradigm except the pill is placebo
[23:08] <th3s3_3y3s> it is the choice that matters
[23:10] <th3s3_3y3s> If you choose to be a mimic the illuminati give bad examples
[23:10]  * patdk-wk votes for the green pill
[23:10] <th3s3_3y3s> so the mimic turns into another bad example
[23:17] <th3s3_3y3s> as far as I've seen 99% of the programming is illuminati
[23:18] <th3s3_3y3s> Even the merchant workforce now.
[23:29] <teward> pmatulis: when i login to the interface, it gives be a brief error message saying "Error: a trial account cannot be created"
[23:29] <teward> pmatulis: once every so often when i login, usually requires a couple logins before it hits that
[23:29] <teward> (the error message is in a red popup which indicates an error)
[23:32] <teward> pmatulis: while not breaking by any means, it's still annoying :)
[23:33] <teward> pmatulis: note though it's not a huge issue and it's one I can live with for an indeterminate period of time, especially since it doesn't persist
[23:33] <teward> (that said, Landscape is wonderful when managing a bunch of Ubuntu systems xD)
[23:47] <pmatulis> teward: ok, maybe i can track something down