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| * Guest42341 What a fine day for science! | 04:46 | |
| nhaines | Science! \o/ | 04:57 |
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| gurucubano | Hello, Good Morning | 06:23 |
| lotuspsychje | gurucubano: morning mate | 06:25 |
| mokmeister | gurucubano: good morning! | 06:31 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:27 |
| sturmflut2 | Good morning! | 07:39 |
| svij | morning sturmflut2 | 07:40 |
| sturmflut2 | Has silo 22 already landed in rc-proposed? | 07:41 |
| jibel | sturmflut2, yes it landed last Friday and should be on today's rc-proposed build. | 07:42 |
| sturmflut2 | Woohoo! Where is my SlimPort adapter ;) | 07:43 |
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| marcus | hi all. i have read about unity 8 being ready for tests on 15.10 so I would like to ask how to install it. | 08:12 |
| JMD | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8Desktop | 08:18 |
| JMD | to add it use this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8inLXC | 08:19 |
| marcus | hmm, i thought i could just run it directly | 08:21 |
| marcus | can't i install unity8-desktop-session-mir and access it from lightdm? | 08:21 |
| JMD | You can download a live image here but the recomended way is to update a system running Utopic to Wily | 08:25 |
| JMD | sorry not update but to add as an alternate session | 08:26 |
| arsson | Hello! i have this http://www.gsmarena.com/lenovo_tab_2_a10_70-7089.php and i'm wondering if it could swallow "ubuntu-touch" or "phablet" easyly included instructions? | 08:27 |
| JMD | live iso here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8DesktopIso | 08:27 |
| JMD | @arson. Don't think it's been ported to that device, but I could be wrong | 08:36 |
| arsson | JMD Well i was just kinda hoping but thanks and let me know if you are wrong :) | 08:40 |
| marcus | JMD, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/ does not seem to exist anymore | 08:56 |
| nhaines | They stopped building daily desktop-next images before 15.04 came out. | 08:57 |
| marcus | i have now tried to install unity8 and unity8-desktop-session-mir on 15.10 and at least a new session for unity 8 appeared in lightdm | 09:05 |
| nhaines | Ooh, a new daily update for Ubuntu on my Nexus 7! | 09:05 |
| * nhaines dances in his desk chair. | 09:05 | |
| marcus | sadly i got logged out immediately | 09:05 |
| nhaines | marcus: what video drivers are you using? | 09:06 |
| marcus | testing on virtualbox | 09:06 |
| marcus | maybe i should install guest additions first | 09:06 |
| nhaines | You can try. I'm not certain Mir works on VirtualBox at all. | 09:06 |
| marcus | ok. should it work on an intel gpu? | 09:10 |
| nhaines | Ought to. Or even AMD or nvidia GPUs with open drivers, if I recall. I haven't had a chance to work with it in a ong while. | 09:11 |
| nhaines | long while. | 09:11 |
| popey | mir does not work in vbox, only intel and nouveau I believe | 09:17 |
| duflu | popey: anpok_ got it working (in a limited sense) a while back... I think? | 09:19 |
| popey | cool! | 09:19 |
| duflu | Might be wrong. It's not generalised software rendering but limited to QXL | 09:19 |
| duflu | Something like that | 09:19 |
| duflu | Also, the Ubuntu emulator is Qemu-based(?). So there's that | 09:21 |
| oSoMoN | popey, does your youtube app use the keep-display-on policy? | 09:23 |
| popey | probably not, no | 09:23 |
| popey | I should do. | 09:23 |
| oSoMoN | it probably should, yes :) | 09:24 |
| marcus | at least it does not seem to work in virtualbox here ;) | 09:24 |
| marcus | going to try on real hardware next | 09:24 |
| popey | oSoMoN, got a suggestion of an app which does this already? | 09:25 |
| oSoMoN | popey, IIRC some GPS navigation apps do, although I don’t have names | 09:25 |
| popey | ah okay, will look | 09:25 |
| sturmflut2 | Hmmm, unity8-lxc-setup no longer worked for me a while ago (endless loop while building the container) and now it tries to download a control file that doesn't exist. | 09:36 |
| sturmflut2 | Seems the whole http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/ directory structure is gone | 09:36 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy OK Corral Day! 😃 | 09:46 |
| sturmflut2 | JamesTait: Good morning! | 09:48 |
| justCarakas | o/ JamesTait | 09:50 |
| JamesTait | sturmflut2, justCarakas: 👋 | 09:51 |
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| sturmflut2 | Ha, finally got around to building glmark2 against OTA-7 | 09:58 |
| sturmflut2 | Does the Unity8 LXC container still work? Last time I tried a couple of weeks ago it was stuck in a loop unpacking the ISO image, and now it tries to download non-existing files. The whole http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/ directory seems to be gone. | 10:14 |
| Guest42341 | sturmflut2, yeah it's like they intentionally make it harder for people to test unity8 | 10:19 |
| popey | sturmflut2, probably ask in -mir when chris is about, he maintained it | 10:20 |
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| sturmflut2 | Guest42341: Nah, nothing intentional about it. Just stupid bugs that need to be squashed. | 10:21 |
| popey | oSoMoN, okay, pushed a new youtube app which keeps the display on, thanks! | 10:37 |
| oSoMoN | popey, cheers | 10:39 |
| marcus | that's strange because it is officially announced as one of the features: https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/10/22/whats-new-in-ubuntu-15-10-desktop-and-devices/ | 11:08 |
| marcus | "In 15.10, Unity8 is demonstrating Canonical’s convergence vision as a tech preview. Users can log into a Unity8 session on the desktop, experience the new features, and cleanly revert to the default Unity7 experience. " | 11:08 |
| nhaines | marcus: sure, and it works perfectly on supported hardware. | 11:08 |
| nhaines | And on non-supported hardware, it causes no problems and can be cleanly uninstalled. | 11:09 |
| marcus | ah, okay | 11:10 |
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| pitti | Saviq: FYI, http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#qtmir is FTBFS in xenial (see failed i386 test result) | 11:28 |
| Saviq | pitti, oh :/ checking | 11:29 |
| pitti | Saviq: thanks! | 11:29 |
| Saviq | ugh | 11:29 |
| pitti | Saviq: looks hard/odd? | 11:33 |
| Saviq | pitti, ld assertion error indeed | 11:33 |
| pitti | urgh | 11:34 |
| Saviq | trying to repro locally | 11:34 |
| pitti | Saviq: new binutils and gcc-5 are already in xenial, so you should be able to repro in a xenial chroot without -proposed; if it works there, enable -proposed | 11:35 |
| Saviq | pitti, yup, doing | 11:35 |
| Saviq | pitti, seems it only got to -proposed because it was a bincopy from wily/overlay | 11:35 |
| Saviq | I mean that's why we didn't see it before | 11:35 |
| pitti | Saviq: yes, slangasek did a mass copy right after opening xenial | 11:35 |
| pitti | so the train couldn't have caught it | 11:35 |
| Saviq | yup | 11:36 |
| pitti | Saviq: i. e. this wasn't meant as "you broke it", but I think you are still the best person to have a look | 11:36 |
| Saviq | ack | 11:36 |
| pitti | Saviq: this might very well be a binutils regression and thus something for doko/upstream, but for that it would greatly help to find a smaller reproducer | 11:37 |
| * pitti goes back to fix more test regressions, so much fun at a new release :) | 11:37 | |
| Saviq | :) | 11:37 |
| sturmflut2 | pitti: Thanks for all the hard work you're doing, BTW. | 11:38 |
| pitti | sturmflut2: *blush*, thanks! | 11:38 |
| pitti | likewise! | 11:38 |
| pitti | it's a fun juggling between fighting broken clouds, breaking tests, and breaking packages :) | 11:39 |
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| Saviq | pitti, so yeah, qtmir can't be rebuilt in xenial (no proposed involved) | 12:18 |
| Saviq | bug #1510067 | 12:21 |
| ubot5 | bug 1510067 in binutils (Ubuntu) "qtmir rebuild fails with "assertion fail ../../bfd/elf32-i386.c:5245"" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510067 | 12:21 |
| jhodapp | rvr, hey just want to make sure you're clear...for testing silo 15 just check to make sure there are no regressions | 12:40 |
| rvr | jhodapp: Ack | 12:40 |
| jhodapp | rvr, until music-app is fully ready and using the bg playlist functionality, it doesn't make sense for you to try to use it to test anything as you'll most certainly find bugs | 12:40 |
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| popey | sturmflut2, <ChrisTownsend> popey: Yes, I've been working on it since last week. I have a new version in https://launchpad.net/~unity8-desktop-session-team/+archive/ubuntu/unity8-preview-lxc/+packages and I'm working out details to get a release into xenial. | 12:57 |
| mcphail | nhaines: I tried the unity8 desktop a coulpe of weeks ago on Wily, and it broke my system | 13:21 |
| mcphail | nhaines: does it work properly now? | 13:21 |
| sturmflut2 | popey: Ah, thanks! | 13:22 |
| seb128 | mcphail, what sort of issue? that's not known, how did you install it? | 13:23 |
| mcphail | seb128: I think I installed via "ubuntu-desktop-next", or whatever the metapackage was called | 13:23 |
| seb128 | mcphail, that's not unity8, that was the binary to create a snappy image and incompatible with debs, that binary was removed before wily | 13:24 |
| seb128 | mcphail, you want unity8-desktop-session-mir | 13:24 |
| mcphail | seb128: Maybe that was the one. I'd asked on IRC what metapackage was current | 13:25 |
| seb128 | mcphail, k, can't help you if you don't know what you installed | 13:25 |
| seb128 | but it should work | 13:25 |
| seb128 | if it didn't for you you should have opened a bug | 13:25 |
| mcphail | seb128: I might try again. It pulled in a bluetooth package which failed to be configured (I don't have bluetooth on the machine) with a trail of broken dependencies as a result. It messed up my grub.conf, leaving me with a text console | 13:26 |
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| seb128 | mcphail, that was likely ubuntu-desktop-next then | 13:27 |
| seb128 | which was removed | 13:27 |
| mcphail | aah. My fault, then | 13:27 |
| seb128 | you want unity8-desktop-session-mir | 13:27 |
| mcphail | Cheers! | 13:27 |
| seb128 | also the bluetooth issue was resolved before wily release | 13:27 |
| mcphail | good to hear. | 13:28 |
| * mcphail will uninstall the nvidia drivers and try it out | 13:28 | |
| doko | Saviq, pitti: known. https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19171 | 13:36 |
| ubot5 | sourceware.org bug 19171 in ld "[Regression] ld assertion fail ../../bfd/elf32-i386.c:5245 on i686-linux-gnu" [Normal,New] | 13:36 |
| Saviq | doko, ack | 13:38 |
| Saviq | doko, shall I do anything with the LP bug or will you take care/dupe it? | 13:39 |
| doko | which one? | 13:40 |
| matv1 | is anyone getting feedback from people that soundquality on the other end of the phone is very poor on Mako? | 13:41 |
| matv1 | is that still some android driver that needs to be manually upgraded? I seem to recall something like that from way back when.. | 13:44 |
| dobey | matv1: flashing the newer 4.4 radio firmware reportedly fixed it. | 14:00 |
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| marcus | i have now installed it on real hardware with intel gpu and it works perfectly. thanks nhaines | 14:11 |
| matv1 | dobey thanks I do remember that now. I shelved my Mako a long time ago and started using it again recently. I believe that I did do that 4.4 upgrade before I first flashed to UT. | 14:37 |
| matv1 | Is there a way to check from ubuntu if that firmware version is in place? | 14:38 |
| dobey | matv1: i think you have to reboot to fastboot and it tells you the radio fw version there | 14:44 |
| matv1 | dobey ah cheers i will try that. | 14:48 |
| Saviq | doko, oh sorry, missed your question: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510067 | 14:50 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1510067 in qtmir (Ubuntu) "qtmir rebuild fails with "assertion fail ../../bfd/elf32-i386.c:5245"" [Undecided,New] | 14:50 |
| matv1 | dobey all I see is a baseband-version. No specific radio firmware version. Should I be able to deduce my radio firmware version from the baseband? | 15:10 |
| dobey | matv1: i think they are the same thing? | 15:11 |
| dobey | matv1: occam-ktu84p/radio-mako-m9615a-cefwmazm-2.0.1701.03.img | 15:13 |
| matv1 | dobey yes mine says the same: m9615a-cefwmazm-2.0.1701.03 | 15:17 |
| matv1 | So I should be good on the firmware right? | 15:18 |
| qruology | hello, I saw a mailing list post from few months ago about testing the wifi tether feature; did it ever make it into any channels? Or am I missing something obvious? I'm on mako 272 and on rc-proposed channel and I don't see it in cellular settings. | 15:18 |
| dobey | matv1: that's the last version from the 4.4 series of android, yeah | 15:18 |
| dobey | qruology: wifi tether is blacklisted on mako because it doesn't work there | 15:19 |
| matv1 | hmm which makes my poor sound on the other end what? an ofono bug? | 15:19 |
| dobey | no idea | 15:20 |
| qruology | dobey: thank you | 15:21 |
| dobey | matv1: is it better if you use a headset instead of the internal mic/speaker? | 15:21 |
| matv1 | dobey are you thinking of a bad mic on my device? | 15:22 |
| dobey | matv1: no. could be many things. just asking for another point of data. a headset will tell you if it's more likely an echo issue as a result of feedback | 15:24 |
| matv1 | dobey I see. I will investigate further. dont have a headset handy. never use one. | 15:26 |
| matv1 | dobey thanks for thinking with me | 15:26 |
| dobey | matv1: if you have any headphones, just plug them in and try with that | 15:27 |
| dobey | matv1: i guess you might be able to leave yourself a voicemail to test :) | 15:27 |
| matv1 | dobey that I could try. hang on :) | 15:28 |
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| matv1 | dobey hmm my voicemail sounds fine to me. with headphones connected. | 15:43 |
| dobey | matv1: if you leave a voicemail without, do you hear any issues? | 15:45 |
| matv1 | already on it :) | 15:45 |
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| matv1 | dobey that does seem worse yes. | 15:47 |
| matv1 | so its a feedback loop issue? | 15:48 |
| matv1 | thats weird | 15:48 |
| dobey | matv1: ok. i'd suggest opening a bug and including that information in the bug description. maybe against ofono or pulseaudio | 15:48 |
| matv1 | dobey I will do that. cheers | 15:51 |
| lotuspsychje | matv1: wich device on wich channel is this mate? | 15:53 |
| matv1 | lotuspsychje on Mako stable channel latest updates(OTA7) | 15:55 |
| matv1 | why? | 15:56 |
| lotuspsychje | matv1: im just interested in different issues on different devices | 15:57 |
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| matv1 | ah I see :) So do you or dobey know if there were any significant changes to pulseaudio across OTA7? | 15:58 |
| matv1 | off the top of your heads? I could dive into the changelogs myself | 15:59 |
| dobey | no | 15:59 |
| matv1 | no as in no changes of no idea :) ? | 15:59 |
| dobey | i don't think there were any changes to pulseaudio, but i don't watch for changes to everything in the image either | 16:00 |
| dobey | but this is also a long standing issue, so i doubt that anything in ota7 itself is the problem | 16:00 |
| dobey | you can downgrade to the previous image and see if it has the same issues too, i guess | 16:01 |
| matv1 | dobey true. I might have to do that. | 16:02 |
| matv1 | actualy not that big a deal | 16:02 |
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| slangasek | Saviq, pitti: fwiw there was a similar build failure of fwupdate in xenial, this is looking like a binutils regression on i386 to me | 18:16 |
| slangasek | Saviq, pitti: and I hear that a new binutils has been uploaded already that fixes this | 18:18 |
| slangasek | so we just need to retry the qtmir test | 18:19 |
| Saviq | slangasek, doko already pointed at https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=19171 | 18:19 |
| ubot5 | sourceware.org bug 19171 in ld "[Regression] ld assertion fail ../../bfd/elf32-i386.c:5245 on i686-linux-gnu" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 18:19 |
| slangasek | ok grand :) | 18:19 |
| Saviq | and if the fix's already uploaded then indeed a retry should work | 18:19 |
| ahayzen | robru, Hey I was told you would be best to look at this. I was trying to install Jim's silo 015 to test earlier via the citrain, and it decided to remove unity8 along with other things! I have reported bug 1510204 detailing what happened, is this due to me having an old (vivid) phablet-tools or is this a bug in the citrain, as this happens alot on the silos we are working on | 18:20 |
| ubot5 | bug 1510204 in phablet-tools (Ubuntu) "citrain decides to remove unity8, ubuntu-touch and various other packages instead of installing the silo packages" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510204 | 18:20 |
| doko | Saviq, slangasek: still building | 18:20 |
| Saviq | ahayzen, what's your citrain version? | 18:20 |
| ahayzen | Saviq, 1.1+15.04.20150330-0ubuntu1 | 18:20 |
| Saviq | ahayzen, yeah, that's old, there's a new version that fixes those issues | 18:21 |
| * ahayzen is likely to update to Wily over the next few days so it may be fixed there :-) | 18:21 | |
| Saviq | ahayzen, available in vivid overlay, for example | 18:21 |
| ahayzen | Saviq, ah cool :-) no more manual apt pinning \o/ | 18:21 |
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| robru | ahayzen: even the version in wily is old and bad, you need either to update to xenial or get the latest phablet-tools-citrain from phablet-team/tools ppa or sdk ppa | 18:43 |
| ahayzen | robru, ah ok thanks :-) | 18:43 |
| robru | ahayzen: you're welcome | 18:44 |
| lotuspsychje | WolfiWolfi: have you fixxed your one issue? | 19:16 |
| mterry | barry, you work on system-image, eh? I'm looking at updating the animation used when flashing devices, and am trying to estimate how long a given update will take. I assume it scales roughly linearly with image delta size? Where is the image delta file on disk? I see us running "/sbin/system-image-upgrader /cache/recovery/command" to do the actual work... Where is that code? | 19:16 |
| kevie | hi folks :) | 19:16 |
| lotuspsychje | hi kevie | 19:17 |
| kevie | Just wondering if there is a way to sync the calendar on Ubuntu Touch with a client like Thunderbird? | 19:18 |
| barry | mterry: let me describe si client 3.0.2 which should be what's in the next ota. if you look in /etc/system-image/config.d you'll see a bunch of numbered .ini files. they are read in numeric order ignoring the suffix, with later settings overriding earlier settings | 19:18 |
| barry | mterry: the data files are in [updater]cache_partition which is /android/cache/recovery by default. the ubuntu_command file contains the commands that recovery will execute and they name the data files that will get unpacked | 19:20 |
| barry | mterry: the code is in https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-image?h=master | 19:21 |
| WolfiWolfi | lotuspsychie: no, i'm sorry. i don't have an idea how i can solve this problem... | 19:21 |
| barry | the manpages have lots of details, and just ping me if you have questions about the tree | 19:21 |
| mterry | barry, ok... will check it all out and bother you again later :) | 19:22 |
| barry | mterry: :) no bother, of course! | 19:22 |
| mterry | barry, in an unrelated note, doko poked me about duplicity and python3. Are we making another python3 push for 16.04? | 19:22 |
| barry | mterry: yes. we all want python2 off the default installs | 19:23 |
| barry | and we're going to make a big push for this for xenial | 19:23 |
| mterry | barry, I wasn't planning to spend personal time on duplicity's port, but if we are serious about xenial, I can talk to my manager for work time | 19:23 |
| barry | mterry: yes, that would be excellent. i'm happy to help as well, but i'm unfamiliar with the code | 19:24 |
| * dobey wonders what will happen with s-c in that respect | 19:24 | |
| lotuspsychje | here's a question for you devs: me and WolfiWolfi had a weird ubuntu ONE account issue: installing something resulted in a ONE account loop saying there occured an error, resetting phone didnt help making new account neither, both happened on BQ 4.5 and meizu | 19:24 |
| mterry | barry, yeah I figure my familiarity with the code would make me almost as fast as you with your python-ninja skills :) | 19:24 |
| lotuspsychje | my error is gone now, but i dont know what solved it | 19:25 |
| dobey | lotuspsychje: what is in ~/.cache/upstart/scope-registry.log when it happens? | 19:25 |
| barry | dobey: it's been ages, but if s-c is going to be kept (there are perennial rumors to the contrary) then iirc mvo did a python3 port but it got stuck on xapian. but i think xapian has also been ported to py3 so maybe that's not a blocker any more | 19:25 |
| lotuspsychje | WolfiWolfi: can you check what dobey asks? | 19:25 |
| WolfiWolfi | ok, just a moment | 19:25 |
| barry | mterry: together we are invincible! :) | 19:26 |
| dobey | barry: ubuntu-sso-client isn't python3 either (as is not a lot of stuff it requires) | 19:26 |
| WolfiWolfi | no, xcuse me, but i don't have more the app to show this | 19:26 |
| barry | yep | 19:26 |
| dobey | barry: would be nice to just get rid of ubuntu-sso-client though | 19:26 |
| barry | yep | 19:26 |
| WolfiWolfi | lotuspsychje: how i can see what is in this folder? | 19:28 |
| lotuspsychje | WolfiWolfi: its a logfile, from terminal i think | 19:29 |
| WolfiWolfi | i don't have the terminal, i need ubuntu one to download it | 19:29 |
| lotuspsychje | dobey: ok i have it from logviewer app, what am i looking for? | 19:30 |
| dobey | lotuspsychje: i need to see the logs | 19:31 |
| dobey | WolfiWolfi: you can use phablet-shell with developer mode enabled on the phone, to view the logs over ssh | 19:31 |
| doko | dobey, are you volunteering for a s-c port? ;) | 19:31 |
| dobey | lotuspsychje: but more importantly, if you can't recreate the issue, your logs aren't going to have useful info | 19:31 |
| dobey | doko: no | 19:31 |
| lotuspsychje | dobey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12973069/ | 19:32 |
| doko | barry, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/823254 is up to date. all deps are at least available | 19:32 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 823254 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Port to python3" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:32 |
| lotuspsychje | dobey: this issue is solved on my bq, so only WolfiWolfi still has it | 19:32 |
| barry | doko: cool. | 19:33 |
| dobey | lotuspsychje: then WolfiWolfi needs to recreate the issue and send me the log correlated to the issue happening | 19:33 |
| lotuspsychje | dobey: ok | 19:33 |
| lotuspsychje | WolfiWolfi: can you try what dobey asks? | 19:34 |
| WolfiWolfi | hm... i'm not an expert on ubuntu, sorry. how i can recreate the issue? | 19:35 |
| dobey | WolfiWolfi: trying to install apps from the store | 19:35 |
| mterry | barry, how can I get my phone in the state that on next reboot it would flash, but not to automatically reboot? (i.e. I want to inspect the system with all the image update files in place) | 19:36 |
| lotuspsychje | WolfiWolfi: he means make same error happen on your phone, so we can see the logs whats happening | 19:37 |
| barry | mterry: use system-image-cli -g | 19:37 |
| barry | (-g == --no-apply) | 19:37 |
| mterry | barry, ah great | 19:37 |
| mterry | barry, I should learn to try --help first ;) | 19:37 |
| barry | mterry: and man :) | 19:37 |
| WolfiWolfi | dobey: i can't install apps from the store because i need the ubuntu one account. but something will not accept it | 19:38 |
| dobey | WolfiWolfi: i don't understand what you mean. it keeps asking you to log in, showing the "go to accounts" button, when you try to install apps, no? | 19:39 |
| WolfiWolfi | yes | 19:39 |
| lotuspsychje | popey: would this be usefull in topic? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers | 19:41 |
| dobey | WolfiWolfi: then, go to the store scope, try to install an app or two a few times, and then with developer mode enabled, plug your phone into your PC with USB, and "adb pull ~/.cache/upstart/scope-registry.log" and pastebin it or something, making sure there's no private data being shown in it first, so i can see it | 19:41 |
| tathhu | doko, snapchat? :P | 19:43 |
| WolfiWolfi | dobey, i don't have ubuntu on my pc :-/ | 19:49 |
| dobey | WolfiWolfi: do you have the android developer tools installed? | 19:50 |
| WolfiWolfi | on the smartphone? | 19:50 |
| dobey | no, on your PC | 19:51 |
| WolfiWolfi | no, what i have to install? | 19:51 |
| WolfiWolfi | what's the name of the tool? | 19:51 |
| pmcgowan | WolfiWolfi, just for grins, is the time on your phone set properly? | 19:51 |
| dobey | oh, i don't know for other platforms | 19:51 |
| WolfiWolfi | yes pcmgowan | 19:51 |
| pmcgowan | ok seem you went there already | 19:51 |
| lotuspsychje | pmcgowan: would that influence ONE account? | 19:52 |
| dobey | WolfiWolfi: do you have virtualbox or something where you can run an ubuntu VM? | 19:52 |
| pmcgowan | yes, the server checks that the exchange is within a certain tie period | 19:52 |
| pmcgowan | time | 19:52 |
| dobey | lotuspsychje: possible, because oauth tokens are only valid for a short time period | 19:52 |
| pmcgowan | I think 15 mins | 19:52 |
| dobey | but unlikely | 19:52 |
| lotuspsychje | hmmm cant remember changing time before it got fixxed | 19:53 |
| lotuspsychje | just trying to think along | 19:53 |
| dobey | the phone has ntpd, so you'd basically have to not have network and actively have the time broken, and yet somehow still be able to connect to the server | 19:53 |
| lotuspsychje | it just dissapeared on me after few times trying to install apps | 19:53 |
| pmcgowan | or have it set to manual which was the case for someone last week | 19:53 |
| lotuspsychje | pmcgowan: yes i set time manual | 19:54 |
| pmcgowan | lotuspsychje, if your time is more than 15 mins skewed from the server could cause problems | 19:54 |
| WolfiWolfi | pmcgowan: it was the solution! i changed the time-settings to "Automatisch" (automatically) | 19:57 |
| pmcgowan | aha | 19:57 |
| lotuspsychje | pmcgowan: +11111 | 19:57 |
| WolfiWolfi | lotuspsychje, no i can download apps! | 19:57 |
| dobey | huh | 19:57 |
| lotuspsychje | so i had time also to manual instead of automatic | 19:57 |
| dobey | i guess we'll have to do the crazy "get the time from the server" stuff on the phone too | 19:58 |
| pmcgowan | yeah | 19:58 |
| dobey | :( | 19:58 |
| pmcgowan | we talked about that last week | 19:58 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx for solving this guys | 19:58 |
| pmcgowan | great | 19:58 |
| pmcgowan | but why did this seem to happen to multiple phones | 19:58 |
| pmcgowan | all of a sudden | 19:58 |
| dobey | no idea | 19:58 |
| pmcgowan | something fishy | 19:58 |
| lotuspsychje | im on bq 4.5 and WolfiWolfi meizu | 19:59 |
| WolfiWolfi | thanks a lot from me too | 20:00 |
| pmcgowan | lotuspsychje, WolfiWolfi had you both set time to manual deliberately? | 20:00 |
| lotuspsychje | pmcgowan, dobey mine got solved without a reason also, time was still set to manual here | 20:01 |
| dobey | space goats | 20:02 |
| lotuspsychje | changing it right now doesnt influence anymore neither | 20:02 |
| lotuspsychje | i can download anything | 20:02 |
| pmcgowan | lotuspsychje, when did this first start? | 20:10 |
| lotuspsychje | pmcgowan: hmm lemme think | 20:10 |
| lotuspsychje | pmcgowan: cant really bind an event to this... suddenly i had the account loop | 20:10 |
| pmcgowan | if its not today then its not due to the time change | 20:10 |
| pmcgowan | which I dont think it is | 20:10 |
| lotuspsychje | pmcgowan: few weeks ago i had this issue | 20:11 |
| pmcgowan | ok | 20:11 |
| Drwd | Hello guys | 20:11 |
| lotuspsychje | pmcgowan: reset to defaults and making new account didnt help | 20:11 |
| pmcgowan | thats odd | 20:12 |
| Drwd | Check out your time zone | 20:12 |
| lotuspsychje | pmcgowan: so after the reset, time gets back to automatic right? | 20:12 |
| pmcgowan | I would expect | 20:12 |
| lotuspsychje | pmcgowan: its weird that wolfi's issue got fixxed by that then | 20:12 |
| lotuspsychje | pmcgowan: maybe its just a glitch in server sync as you say? | 20:12 |
| Drwd | Does someone can use the host-post? | 20:13 |
| pmcgowan | yeah deserves a bit more thought | 20:13 |
| lotuspsychje | pmcgowan: i hope you guys find it | 20:13 |
| lotuspsychje_ | pmcgowan: i cant recreate it anymore, tryed both manual/automatic time after a reboot | 20:18 |
| lotuspsychje_ | if it would happen again ill let you guys know | 20:19 |
| lotuspsychje_ | pmcgowan: if it can help im from belgium and wolfi from germany | 20:20 |
| lotuspsychje_ | laterz | 20:20 |
| Drwd | Anyone on here? | 20:22 |
| dobey | Drwd: not sure what you're asking | 20:22 |
| tathhu | #ubuntu-touch: Total: 292 users | 20:23 |
| Drwd | Im asking about wifi host-post | 20:23 |
| tathhu | maybe | 20:23 |
| dobey | Drwd: you mean hotspot? | 20:23 |
| dobey | it works on the bq devices, and i think on the meizu mx4, afaik | 20:23 |
| dobey | it's not usable on mako (neuxs4) though | 20:24 |
| Drwd | I turn on the hostpost and it does not work | 20:25 |
| dobey | Drwd: on what device? | 20:25 |
| Drwd | BQ E 4.5 | 20:25 |
| dobey | ok, i don't have one myself, so i can't really help much. | 20:27 |
| dobey | have you tried rebooting? | 20:27 |
| Drwd | Yup | 20:27 |
| Drwd | I am connected on wifi ok, then I turn on the hostpost | 20:28 |
| Drwd | I tried on samsung to use the free hostpost, I said connected but dont allow internet | 20:29 |
| Drwd | *It said connected | 20:29 |
| dobey | Drwd: you do have a sim card in the bq right? | 20:29 |
| Drwd | Yes, It wont be able with out sim. | 20:29 |
| Drwd | I think the hostpost is made to use with internet mobile right? | 20:30 |
| dobey | ok. should work if cellular data is connected and the hotspot is enabled | 20:31 |
| dobey | if it's not, please file a bug | 20:31 |
| Drwd | I want to use with wifi and not mobile data | 20:31 |
| dobey | i don't think you can do that | 20:32 |
| Drwd | You mean hospost only work with mobile data ? | 20:32 |
| tathhu | why would one use hotspot on phone with wifi? I assume it's for those moments when there's noe wifi for eg laptop.. | 20:33 |
| dobey | yes i don't think it's usable as a wifi repeater | 20:33 |
| tathhu | usb tethering would be cool ~ | 20:34 |
| Drwd | Lol | 20:34 |
| dobey | tathhu: you can turn it on, but it disables adb i think | 20:34 |
| Drwd | Ok i got u, then I am not able to share internet with wifi, only sim mobile. | 20:35 |
| dobey | i think so, yes. | 20:36 |
| dobey | it works to share the sim data right? | 20:37 |
| Drwd | Maybe, but I dont want to spend mobile data smh | 20:38 |
| Drwd | I want to make an AP on device to share and sniffe the wifi, but if im not able then it is ok. | 20:39 |
| dobey | ok, afaik, sharing wifi over wifi is not supported | 20:40 |
| Drwd | The problem is hardware or software? | 20:41 |
| dobey | i don't know. i didn't work on that feature | 20:41 |
| Drwd | Oh dont worry bro, I can feel that feeling. | 20:42 |
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| ahoneybun | someone should port Ubuntu touch to the new amazon tablet, 50 bucks! | 21:12 |
| dobey | ahoneybun: go for it | 21:20 |
| ahoneybun | XD | 21:21 |
| ahoneybun | I've no exp at that | 21:21 |
| drwd | Follow your heart | 21:21 |
| drwd | Did you unlock the bootloader? | 21:22 |
| SturmFlut | sverzegnassi: Ping | 21:34 |
| onla | hey. what is the name for the project or platform that was kind of like an OS for mobile and PC both | 21:41 |
| onla | there was a device coming with it this winter or smth maybe? | 21:42 |
| onla | or what is the word for the concept, that the OS is for mobile and touch and desktop | 21:43 |
| onla | ah.. http://liliputing.com/2015/05/ubuntu-phone-that-works-as-a-desktop-pc-coming-in-2015.html | 21:44 |
| onla | how is this going? | 21:44 |
| onla | ubuntu convergence | 21:44 |
| sverzegnassi | SturmFlut: o/ | 21:45 |
| onla | is there a irc room for ubuntu convergence? | 21:53 |
| === sturmflut_ is now known as sturmflut | ||
| OerHeks | hmm http://liliputing.com/2015/10/xiaomi-redmi-2-pro-smartphones-hits-the-fcc.html | 22:11 |
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