[00:00] <lrs> Rexter, Its a laptop bluetooth adapter, its not inside the mb, you can plug it in and out but i guess you could say its built in a way?
[00:01] <Rexter> lrs: It's a card, connected directly to the mobo, right?
[00:01] <lrs> Yeah, a really small card
[00:01] <lrs> http://g01.a.alicdn.com/kf/HTB13ZvWHVXXXXcqXXXXq6xXFXXXo/Bluetooth-Daughter-Card-Bluetooth-Adapter-60Y3305-60Y3303-for-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T530-T430-X230I-X230.jpg_350x350.jpg < looks like that
[00:02] <EriC^^> olav1234: does /home/olav/.ssh/id_rsa exist?
[00:02] <TJ-> lrs: the firmware stores settings in non volatile RAM. The reset to defaults we did is supposed to help clear any problems there, but sometines won't. A firmware upgrade should clear it too, but doesn't always. A bad setting there might be the bug in the firmware, and so updating the firmware may not be the solution once the device disappears
[00:02] <olav1234> on the client? it should
[00:02] <Rexter> lrs: and you are just seeing no logical evitance of it, right?
[00:02] <olav1234> ill check
[00:02] <lrs> Evidence? Nope
[00:02] <olav1234> yes it does (you mean on the client, right?)
[00:03] <EriC^^> olav1234: yeah
[00:03] <TJ-> lrs: I'm wondering if you did another F9 Setup defaults it might help, now the new firmware is installed
[00:03] <lrs> I have literally never used it, so that it would break from that is kinda stupid. So i though there was something wrong. Havent been able to check on win. But maybe its broken
[00:03] <olav1234> nothing has changed besides reinstalling openssh-server
[00:03] <lrs> TJ-, Yeah I did, but i had to change the uefi/legacy thing though
[00:03] <TJ-> lrs: basically, there is a possibility that the bad setting is still there, and that is what prevents the firmware from initialising the device
[00:03] <lrs> And no secure boot
[00:03] <lrs> I think that might be the problem
[00:03] <lrs> Its either that its completely broken
[00:04] <lrs> Or that its not supported when its not UEFI or whatever
[00:04] <TJ-> lrs: I've seen it happen - mainly with Lenovo UEFI too!
[00:04] <lrs> Maybe some sort of security/bluetooth thing
[00:04] <olav1234> also i allowed password authentication since pubkey did not work anymore, but that does not seem to work either for some reason
[00:04] <lrs> Alot of people can abuse bluetooth and get into computers
[00:04] <lrs> Lenovo is a very high security computer manufacturer
[00:04] <TJ-> lrs: I'd doubt that, but it is possible there's some complicated interaction whereby in UEFI mode different hardware initialisation is done, which isn't done in BIOS/Legacy mode
[00:04] <TJ-> lrs: Not in my experience they aren't!
[00:04] <lrs> So i can imagine that they *might* have some sort of thing that prevents you from using bluetooth if it sees that you have an alien o
[00:04] <lrs> s
[00:05] <lrs> TJ-, Yeah well, im just saying, their nisch is security
[00:05] <lrs> They have fingerprint scan, secure boot and so on
[00:06] <TJ-> lrs: you mean like the Lenovo SuperFish root kit?
[00:07] <lrs> TJ-, https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/18/html/UEFI_Secure_Boot_Guide/ch02s02.html
[00:07] <TJ-> lrs: UEFI/SecureBoot is mandated by Microsoft for Windows logo compliance. Many PCs have fingerprint scanners, but they're useless as security devices - NEVER use fingerprint scanner for authentication - only for user identity (username)
[00:08] <EriC^^> olav1234: what does that say?
[00:08] <EriC^^> in -vvv or so
[00:08] <TJ-> lrs: interstingly, I saw no sign of the Fingerprint scanner in the USB devices either
[00:08] <olav1234> what does what say?
[00:08] <lrs> TJ-, Right, I dont have one. Im just saying
[00:08] <TJ-> lrs: ahhh, that'd explain it!
[00:08] <TJ-> lrs: My PC has: "Bus 003 Device 002: ID 0483:2016 STMicroelectronics Fingerprint Reader"
[00:09] <olav1234> oh, password login, ill check
[00:09] <EriC^^> ok
[00:09] <lrs> I just said examples on how the company works, they clearly have a secure approach. Might not be *the best* company. But if they find out that someone can hijack your computer from bluetooth, and that it sees you have an non supported OS installed. I think chances are a bit high they might disable it, no? I dont know
[00:10] <olav1234> gives me the same wall of text as before
[00:11] <EriC^^> what happens after you enter the password?
[00:11] <olav1234> it just says "permission denied" even though im sure its the right password
[00:12] <olav1234> btw, i still have a couple of ssh connections up from before i did the mistake, i dont know if this matters
[00:12] <EriC^^> check /var/log/auth.log it might have clues
[00:12] <olav1234> i reinstalled openssh-server before i restarted it
[00:12] <TJ-> lrs: I very much doubt that, on that argument they'd disable Wifi and Cellular modem!
[00:13] <olav1234> eureka! i think i just found out why it does not work, ill check and report back in a sec!
[00:14] <EriC^^> ok!
[00:14] <lrs> TJ-, You think? I might be wrong but if you enable wifi, you have to enter a network yourself, and modem you have to start. With bluetooth as soon as you enable it, you open yourself up. But i might be wrong. Youre right in your argument though.
[00:15] <TJ-> lrs:  BT is no different to Wifi or Cellular; software has to enable and use it. BT can't miraculously accept connections/files without you allowing it.
[00:16] <lrs> TJ-, I was thinking of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluesnarfing
[00:16] <olav1234> yes, i fixed it! too much coffe makes me do silly mistakes.. i had forgotten to add my user to a group i made for sshusers for extra security....
[00:17] <ycon_> Hi, I've run "sudo -u postgres -c 'createuser -P". Once I'm the posgres user, when I sudo it asks me for a password (but I haven't created one). Any ideas?
[00:17] <TJ-> lrs: that photo on aliexpress you linked to; does your BT module also have that big screw hole at 1 end?
[00:17] <olav1234> EricC^^: thanks for the help Eric! next time i have some problem ill check logs before i ask for help
[00:17] <lrs> Yeah
[00:18] <EriC^^> olav1234: anytime, glad it worked out :)
[00:18] <TJ-> lrs: so this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Lenovo-Thinkpad-X230-Tablet-T530-Bluetooth-Module-Board-60Y3303-/251989693670?hash=item3aabc194e6:g:PCgAAOSwBLlVd05v
[00:19] <lrs> Yeah, looks like it might work
[00:20] <lrs> TJ-,  http://www.linux-hardware-guide.com/2014-10-11-asus-usb-bt400-usb-bluetooth-4-0 Im looking at getting this one though kind of
[00:21] <TJ-> lrs: OK, using that part number I found some very hi res photos of the module here: http://goo.gl/rpQmDe
[00:21] <lrs> Mine says something else I think, not sure
[00:21] <holladiewaldfee> hey
[00:21] <TJ-> lrs: Looking at the component-side of the PCB, you can see there's a flat header socket for the cable connection. Seeing that, my first thought is ... those things can vibrate out of position. I'd put my thumb on it and press it in firmly
[00:22] <lrs> Yeah, i pulled it out and put it together
[00:22] <holladiewaldfee> is there a magnifing glass for ubuntu which can "fly" permanently under my mouse icon?
[00:22] <holladiewaldfee> or over..
[00:22] <TJ-> lrs: Good. Did you trace the cable to the mobo connection and re-do that end too
[00:23] <lrs> TJ-, The socket for the pins are straight into the mb so
[00:23] <TJ-> lrs: a replacement for US$17 isn't bad either
[00:24] <lrs> TJ-, Yeah, but im not 100% it is that to be completely honest.
[00:24] <ycon_> I've run sudo -u postgres -c 'createuser -P, but and it enters than user. However, when I try to sudo it asks for a password (and I haven't created on for the user). What can I do?
[00:24] <lrs> To be completely sure, id need to install windows, get lenovos diagnostics and drivers
[00:24] <lrs> And if they say, yep, cant find anything then its that
[00:25] <TJ-> lrs: I'll keep my ears open for another T530 user and ask them to check their system's BT cnfig
[00:25] <lrs> TJ-, Thanks, again, thanks for thelp. Aprreciate it _alot_
[00:31] <TJ-> lrs: this is interesting, gives the IDs: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Bluetooth_Daughter_Card_%2814_pins%29
[00:31] <TJ-> lrs: USB id 0a5c:21e6
[00:32] <millerti> The Ubuntu installer ISO doesn't have smartctl.  How can I check health of a drive I want to fsck before I fsck it?  I did "fsck.ext4 -fn /dev/sdb1", and it came back error-free.
[00:32] <millerti> But someone suggested I check SMART status before doing anything that would modify the filesystem,
[00:32] <TJ-> millerti: "sudo apt-get install smartmontools"
[00:34] <wileee> millerti, live might have smartmontools onboard for install if not run an update than try, you may need to tick the cd off in live.
[00:34] <millerti> TJ-: On the live CD?
[00:35] <millerti> I'm running the install CD in rescue mode and having a look at stuff before I do anything.
[00:36] <wileee> millerti, As a regular person here I would say, grab TJ- ankle and follow what they and don;t let go. ;)
[00:36] <TJ-> millerti: With a Live ISO boot the image is in-memory; you can install packages in the same way as a full install, with the exception that they don't remain after a reboot
[00:36] <millerti> Oh, sweet.
[00:37] <TJ-> millerti: in rescue mode I'm not so sure. I'm thinking about the "Try Ubuntu" full desktop mode
[00:37] <millerti> My root fs is r/w, so it should work.  The root is from the ISO, so it must be unioning the ISO with a ramdisk.
[00:37] <millerti> Or something.
[00:38] <TJ-> millerti: it's COW in memory
[00:38] <millerti> There's no apt-get.
[00:38] <TJ-> millerti: hmmm, then it isn't the Live Desktop environment then.
[00:38] <millerti> No.  This is Ubuntu Server 15.10
[00:38] <TJ-> millerti: is it the ubuntu-server 'rescue' mode?
[00:38] <TJ-> millerti: Ahhh!
[00:38] <Jordan_U> millerti: Please boot from a LiveCD, not a server install CD.
[00:38] <millerti> Yes, it's in the rescue mode.
[00:39] <millerti> Ok, I'll download that.
[00:39] <TJ-> millerti: hangon, let me try in a VM here, see how its done
[00:39] <Jordan_U> millerti: Rescue mode just chroots into your installed system, where you'll likely have all of the same problems you had trying to debug this when booted normally.
[00:39] <millerti> Can I boot the liveCD in command line mode?  I have to use IPMI console redirection.
[00:40] <millerti> Jordan_U, I chose not to use the installed system as root.  It mounts the installed system on /target.
[00:40] <millerti> BTW, I'm miles away from the server, so the ISO it booted from it on my laptop, and it booted over the internet.
[00:41] <millerti> I can use the IPMI console redirection tool to attack a virtual CDROM drive.
[00:41] <TJ-> millerti: booting into it now
[00:41] <millerti> TJ-:  HMM?
[00:41] <millerti> Oh, ok.
[00:42] <millerti> I missed what you said earlier.
[00:43] <TJ-> millerti: I've not had to rescue using the server ISO, I use my own images
[00:43] <millerti> If I've booted into rescue mode, is there an "install" command?  Just curious.
[00:43] <millerti> TJ-, I got the server ISO so I could perform an install.
[00:43] <Jordan_U> TJ-: If you can't do what you want from rescue mode, grml is a nice Debian based liveCD distro with smartctl (and many other nice tools) included by default, and it boots to a text tty, which should hopefully allow IPMI console redirection.
[00:43] <millerti> I just want to update to 15.10, repairing the screwed up 15.04 install in the process.  Can I do that?
[00:44] <millerti> Instead of upgrading, I just install into an existing system.  Will that work?
[00:44] <TJ-> Jordan_U:  millerti That might the quickest option. Best to diagnose and possibly fix what is wrong before trying to release-upgrade
[00:44] <millerti> I saved some important files, like network config, passwd, group, exports...
[00:45] <millerti> TJ-:  I think something just went wrong with the upgrade to 15.04.
[00:45] <millerti> I had gotten some errors.
[00:45] <millerti> About package dependencies not being configured yet.
[00:45] <millerti> Then there were missing things, like no reboot command, no init, etc.
[00:46] <TJ-> millerti: smartmontools IS ON the server CD
[00:46] <Starn> aptd keeps crashing and slowing my pc down. everytime i step away and come back i have an error report of aptd crashing. i've clicked to report it everytime i see it.
[00:47] <millerti> TJ- What is the command?
[00:47] <millerti> I'm looking for "smartctl"
[00:47] <TJ-> millerti: "ls -l /cdrom/pool/main/s/smartmontools/"
[00:48] <millerti> TJ-:  There's a deb package there.
[00:48] <TJ-> millerti: but, as the rescue shell doesn't have 'dpkg' you can't install it :D
[00:49] <millerti> TJ-:  Correct.
[00:50] <TJ-> millerti: best to get an image you work with
[00:50] <TJ-> millerti: s/you/you can/
[00:50] <millerti> TJ-:  How critical is this?  I do an fsck, and it comes back clean as a whistle.  I could do a bad sector check, just for good measure.
[00:50] <dixson-canaima41> as I make an iso of my ubuntu 14.04?
[00:51] <millerti> Like I say, it's an enterprise-grade SSD.  It's very unlikely to be a hardware problem.
[00:51] <TJ-> millerti: well, if a disk is failing it may affect other areas of the disk. It's always best to check, but if the file-system looks OK then boot into it in recovery mode if possible, and run smartctl from there ?
[00:51] <daftykins> dixson-canaima41: with all the software you use? probably, it'd be more work than you'd expect though.
[00:51] <millerti> TJ-:  Too many missing packages from the installed OS.
[00:52] <millerti> TJ-:  Also, it didn't have smartmontools installed to begin wtih.
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[00:52] <TJ-> millerti: Do as Jordan_U suggested; that'll give you a useful recovery shell
[00:52] <millerti> I mean, maybe I can chroot in, and maybe it'll install, but is that a good idea?  Better to use a LiveCD.
[00:52] <daftykins> dixson-canaima41: yeah waste of time imo
[00:53] <millerti> grml, right?
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[00:53] <TJ-> millerti: 'Live' generally assumes the GUI; it can be booted without but I'd have to play with the boot menu options to ensure you could prevent it bringing up the GUI
[00:53] <TJ-> millerti: Yes
[00:54] <dixson-canaima41> I want to install ubuntu on another PC without internet with all updates.
[00:55] <daftykins> take it to somewhere with internet access
[00:56] <Renfried> you need internet to get all the restricted things, unless you download the packages, and install them manually
[00:57] <dixson-canaima41> I can not make a copy of my distro already installed and install it on another pc???
[00:58] <daftykins> dixson-canaima41: one way, update an online PC... copy all the packages from /var/cache/apt/archives and then install them on the offline machine
[00:58] <daftykins> no that's a bad approach
[00:58] <Renfried> unless it has exactly the same spec probably not advised
[00:58] <daftykins> no that's rubbish, it has nothing to do with spec
[00:58] <daftykins> a cloned install would work fine as long as the architecture is the same
[00:59] <Renfried> why doesnt the pc have net access?
[01:00] <dixson-canaima41> as I can clone ubuntu??
[01:01] <dixson-canaima41> It is work and no internet
[01:02] <daftykins> you should not be handling the computers at your workplace without the IT staff's involvement
[01:02] <daftykins> (if any)
[01:05] <Renfried> you could download the 14.04.3 LTS. That will be as stable as possible if you cant install updates then download the restricted packages, and dependencies, and that might work
[01:05] <TJ-> Well, amazingly, I figured out it IS POSSIBLE to extract .deb packages into the ubuntu-server rescue environment
[01:06] <daftykins> :)
[01:06] <daftykins> Renfried: no need, what i said would work fine.
[01:10] <TJ-> Don't forget good old apt-offline
[01:14] <lostsoul> http://irc.debian.org
[01:19] <alian> miniwep for ubuntu
[01:20] <daftykins> alian: that doesn't seem to be phrased like a question
[01:21] <halberd> somehow my computer has chosen to memorize my gnupg password and automatically supply it whenever I decrypt something... this is distressing since this password shouldn't be anywhere but in my head.  However when I go to Passwords and Keys I don't see where this password is stored.  how do I get rid of it?
[01:22] <TJ-> halberd: sounds like the agent has cached it
[01:22] <halberd> "the agent" is the Terminal application
[01:23] <Renfried> what email program? i use thunderbird with enigmail, and it has a timer for how long it is stored in memory. could it be something like that?
[01:24] <halberd> I'm not using it for email
[01:25] <halberd> when I go to Passwords and Keys there is an entry for GnuPG keys, but if I delete that it only deletes my private key, not the stored password
[01:25] <Renfried> ah well, that my extent of knowledge exhausted :)
[01:27] <halberd> it's not the Terminal application that is storing the password, because I opened an xterm and that also knew the password
[01:28] <TJ-> halberd: gnome-keyring caches things for the session
[01:29] <halberd> TJ-, I think it's being stored for longer than a session... but you think rebooting might fix it?
[01:31] <TJ-> halberd: log-out should be sufficient, that will end the current user session
[01:32] <halberd> I'll try it
[01:34] <eniacorion> olá para todos
[01:34] <daftykins> !es
[01:35] <linuxuz3r> how do i disable wayland
[01:35] <halberd> you were right, however now I have supplied my password and it's remembering it again
[01:36] <halberd> I mean, it worked once and it did not remember it, but now it is again remembering it
[01:36] <TJ-> halberd: do you want to set a timeout instead?
[01:36] <TJ-> halberd: do "gsettings list-recursively org.gnome.crypto.cache"
[01:36] <halberd> I want it to never remember this password
[01:37] <TJ-> halberd: "gsettings set org.gnome.crypto.cache gpg-cache-method 'timeout' "
[01:38] <TJ-> halberd: and "gsettings set org.gnome.crypto.cache gpg-cache-ttl 0"
[01:39] <halberd> hm hasn't worked yet maybe i need to logout/in again
[01:40] <halberd> nope it's not working, maybe I should try timeout 1, timeout 0 might be never timeout
[01:41] <TJ-> halberd: Yes, I wondered that too, was going to suggest it if 0 seemed not to work
[01:41] <TJ-> Never can tell with some programmers! if it is an unsigned value then 0 would mean infinity, whereas if its signed then -1 would be sensible
[01:42] <ycon_> Hi all, I'm not able to setup my virtualenv without calling for sudo. So Im trying to run "sudo usermod -a -G www-data azureuser" but that just says "send invalidate(passwd) request, exiting" etc... Any ideas?
[01:43] <halberd> thanks, now it's working every time... do I  need to make sure I reset those settings every time I log in?   or should they work permanently?
[01:43] <TJ-> halberd: no, those are stored in the user's gconf database
[01:47] <Gerowen> Is there a way to mount a device by say it's serial number or something instead of its /dev/foo device?  I've got a 2 TB external hard drive on the living room PC that is connected to our television.  I have that storage drive shared via SSH, and have a mount command added to /etc/rc.local to make sure it always mounts to /mnt/Storage on bootup.  However, sometimes it randomly changes /dev identifiers to that it's /dev/sdf1 or /dev/sdb1, which forces
[01:47] <Gerowen> me to go manually mount it when the computer reboots.
[01:47] <daftykins> UUID.
[01:47] <daftykins> "sudo blkid"
[01:47] <Gerowen> So I can just substitute the UUID in place of /dev/foo?
[01:48] <daftykins> tip #1 is never use uppercase in Linux paths, tip #2 is you mount file systems from /etc/fstab - not via hacks like that :)
[01:48] <TJ-> Gerowen: see "man fstab"
[01:48] <Gerowen> daftykins: I think I remember trying to do it with fstab forever ago and ran into headaches, I'll give it another shot though, :-)
[01:49] <Gerowen> It's been several versions and distros since I tried fstab last.
[01:49] <daftykins> show us a pastebin of your attempt at editing it and we'll sort you out
[01:49] <daftykins> you'll need to share "sudo blkid", "sudo parted -l" and /etc/fstab itself ideally
[01:49] <Gerowen> daftykins: Don't have one now, like I said, been several upgrades and such since I tried it out, :P
[01:49] <Gerowen> May have one in a bit though.
[01:50] <Gerowen> Depending on how it works out.
[01:50] <p5yc071c> would installing Ubuntu in a windows Virtual PC make the files stored under that filesystem any more secure than those under the windows system?
[01:50] <daftykins> err what
[01:50] <TJ-> p5yc071c: no
[01:50] <daftykins> p5yc071c: what are you trying to achieve? :P
[01:51] <p5yc071c> daftykins: I'd like to secure my data.
[01:51] <daftykins> obfuscation is not security
[01:51] <daftykins> and paranoia is harmful :)
[01:51] <p5yc071c> daftykins:  I've been running ubuntu for years and I *think* it's much more secure than windows...
[01:52] <p5yc071c> ha!
[01:52] <p5yc071c> daftykins:  I recently bought a macbook so that I could install solidworks...so I made a dual boot with windows...
[01:52] <Sebass_REbellion> Hi people, i have a question. Im using unubtu 15.04, and i downloaded a package "kde-wallpapers" to have more wallpapers. Where are they stored?
[01:52] <TJ-> Sebass_REbellion: "dpkg -L kde-wallpapers"
[01:52] <daftykins> /usr/share/ somewhere is my guess
[01:52] <daftykins> :>
[01:53] <Sebass_REbellion> TJ-: I found them. Thanks!
[01:54] <Gerowen> Got /etc/fstab working this time around, :-)
[01:54] <daftykins> \o/
[01:54] <Sebass_REbellion> .
[01:55] <Gerowen> mount -a mounted it via UUID properly,  now to reboot and verify.
[01:56] <p5yc071c> I really want to create a tripple boot system on a macbook...has anyone had any success with that?
[01:56] <p5yc071c> i'm assuming you'd have to install Linux - OSX - Windows?
[01:56] <daftykins> it's bad enough using the mac the first time :)
[01:56] <daftykins> no, OS X first always.
[01:56] <p5yc071c> yeah I'm not a fan of their communist ways...
[01:57] <daftykins> rEFInd would sort you out there
[01:57] <daftykins> here's not really the place for OS wars :)
[01:57] <p5yc071c> : ? what's rEFInd?
[01:58] <daftykins> ah i see you have not looked this up at all.
[01:58] <p5yc071c> ha...Yeah, i've got no clue...
[01:59] <daftykins> ok well look the above up, as it's off topic for here really
[01:59] <p5yc071c> thanks
[01:59] <smokeless> p5y: look up bootcamp.
[02:00] <daftykins> that's the obvious part ;)
[02:01] <p5yc071c> Daftykins:  I think it might be a legit discussion for here if we widen our scope again to my original ...question/issue
[02:01]  * daftykins points at the topic
[02:01] <daftykins> !mac
[02:01] <daftykins> be sure to document your model's installation, i've written one of those.
[02:02] <p5yc071c> alrighty, thanks again
[02:05] <john_rambo> Hi I am using Nvidia GeForce GTX 650 under Kubuntu 15.10  .... When I open driver manager it says  "your computer requires no proprietary drivers" ... How do Iinstall the nonfree drivers?
[02:06] <daftykins> desktop PC?
[02:06] <john_rambo> Yes
[02:06] <daftykins> hmm i wonder what the best driver in 15.10 is now
[02:06] <UserUS> http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/77525/en-us
[02:06] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install nvidia-352
[02:06] <daftykins> UserUS: no, *NEVER* advise a manual download.
[02:07] <daftykins> it is horrible advice and nvidia themselves say don't do it.
[02:07] <UserUS> daftykins: why post the driver then in the first place?
[02:08] <john_rambo> I guess I will have to wait for the driver to reach the repos
[02:08] <daftykins> UserUS: you did, not me.
[02:08] <daftykins> UserUS: oh them... for LFS setups i guess.
[02:09] <daftykins> john_rambo: what? install 352 like i said, your card is too old to benefit from newer versions anyway.
[02:09] <UserUS> daftykins: what is an LFS setup?
[02:10] <daftykins> off topic :)
[02:10] <Guest33781> HI
[02:11] <TJ-> the best thing to do is "ubuntu-drivers devices"
[02:11] <daftykins> lo
[02:11] <Guest33781> HOW IS EVERY ONE
[02:12] <neetz> Hey guys ! I just removed all partitions of my ubuntu OS ( using parted ) by mistake , and I don't want to reboot now ! I know it won't boot up if i reboot , what do I do to undo delete partitions ?
[02:13] <TJ-> neetz: "cat /proc/partitions" to begin with, check the kernel still knows about them
[02:15] <neetz> TJ-:  it says sda , sda 3 ,sda4 partitions
[02:16] <UserUS> neetz: which on contained ubuntu?
[02:16] <UserUS> one*
[02:17] <TJ-> neetz: OK, now do "DEV=sda; S=/sys/block/${DEV}/${DEV}; echo "DEV  P START SIZE"; for P in ${S}?; do echo "${P##*/} $(cat $P/partition) $(cat $P/start) $(cat $P/size)"; done "
[02:18] <TJ-> neetz: and pastebin the result please
[02:19] <neetz> TJ-:  okay , hold on :)
[02:19] <neetz> UserUS:  I do not know
[02:20] <neetz> TJ-:  what does the command do anyway ?
[02:20] <TJ-> neetz: don't worry about where 'Ubuntu' is, the kernel knows and won't forget unless the system loses power.
[02:20] <TJ-> neetz: it recreates all the partition data
[02:22] <TJ-> neetz: here's a comparison from my PC, between parted and that code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12967304/
[02:23] <MISIONone>  02:23:14 up  1:06,  2 users,  load average: 0.18, 0.30, 0.26
[02:23] <MISIONone> ^ Yeah!.
[02:23] <MISIONone> (;
[02:25] <MISIONone>    /quit
[02:25] <MISIONone> Heh.
[02:27] <MISIONone>  /quiet
[02:29] <daftykins> MISIONone: this is not a chat channel
[02:31]  * MISIONone =quiet
[02:35] <keeper> hey
[02:35] <keeper> exit
[02:35] <keeper> eixt
[02:35] <keeper> kldfjlksadf
[02:35] <keeper> sadfsd
[02:37] <MonkehParade> Heey..
[02:38] <MonkehParade> I keep noticing traffic from apt http every once in a while, is this normal.
[02:38] <MonkehParade> *?
[02:38] <daftykins> periodic software updates app updating package lists maybe
[02:38] <neetz> TJ-:  hey this is the output http://pastebin.com/6aVEQari
[02:41] <neetz> TJ-:  any inputs ?
[02:41] <TJ-> neetz: OK, that looks good. What is weird is there's no partition 1 or 2.
[02:42] <TJ-> neetz: can you do "pastebinit <( mount; sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print )"
[02:46] <neetz> TJ-:  pastebinit ?
[02:46] <neetz> TJ-:  can you retype the command
[02:48] <TJ-> neetz: can you do "pastebinit <( mount; sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print )"
[02:48] <TJ-> neetz: you may need to install the command first: "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[02:52] <neetz> TJ-:  no internet mate :(
[02:52] <TJ-> neetz: that's a problem :)
[02:53] <TJ-> neetz: what type of partitioning scheme was on the disk before you deleted it? GPT or MBR ? how did you delete it, too?
[02:53] <elosz> hello..how to find on which filesystem i am in current working direcroty?
[02:53] <Ben64> pwd
[02:54] <elosz>  ./dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00 on / type ext3
[02:54] <neetz> TJ-:  GPT
[02:54] <elosz> ./dev/sda1 on /boot type ext3 (rw)
[02:54] <neetz> TJ-:  I used parted
[02:54] <elosz> so my underlying device is /dev/mapper.. or /dev/sda1?
[02:55] <daftykins> LVM complicates matters somewhat ;)
[02:55] <neetz> TJ-:  i just ran parted /dev/sda
[02:55] <neetz> TJ-:  and then rm 1 , rm 2 , so on
[02:55] <Ben64> if you're in /boot you're in /dev/sda1
[02:56] <elosz> Ben64: i am in /usr/src/myfolder
[02:56] <Ben64> df .
[02:56] <TJ-> neetz: the secondary PT may still be there, hang on a mo
[02:57] <elosz> Filesystem           1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00                       15485912   3264900  11414920  23% / /dev/sda1                96990     68271     23500  75% /boot
[02:58] <elosz> one is mounted on / and other on /boot (both are ext3)
[02:58] <it_> Can someone help me how can I copy everything from /home to usb flash drive?
[02:58] <neetz> TJ-:  sure ,thanks a ton bro :)
[02:58] <Ben64> elosz: "df ." outputs three terribly formatted lines?
[02:59] <it_> what should i type in the terminal?
[02:59] <elosz> Ben64: oh got my answer from df.
[02:59] <daftykins> it_: cp /file /flash/drive/mount/point/
[03:00] <TJ-> neetz: Try "sudo sgdisk --verify /dev/sda" - it won't fix, but it will report inconsistencies. It may indicate the secondary GPT (at the end of the disk) is different from the Primary (at the start of the disk) and then other tools could use the good table to repair the GPT fully
[03:01] <it_> daftykins i want to copy everything even hidden files and hidden folders
[03:01] <daftykins> use rsync
[03:01] <daftykins> !rsync
[03:03] <neetz> TJ-:  it says " No problems found . 931.5 gb available in 1 section ....."
[03:04] <it_> daftykins does it work with an usb with fat 32
[03:07] <TJ-> neetz: darn. I think you're going to need to do the recovery in stages. First, is to recreate partition's 2 and 3 using the data my shell script gave you (http://pastebin.com/6aVEQari). Then you'll need to reboot the PC using a Live ISO image on DVD or USB device, use the "Try Ubuntu" desktop option, install the 'testdisk' package into the Live environment, and run "sudo testdisk /dev/sda"  - testdisk will
[03:07] <TJ-> scan the hard drive and try to rebuild the partition table. It'll do that in-memory and offer you its results, if you agree with them, you can tell it to write them to disk.
[03:08] <TJ-> !recover | neetz here's some info on the tools available
[03:09] <TJ-> neetz: the PC will need network access to install 'testdisk' though. If it had network access right now, you could install 'testdisk' package in the running system and run it
[03:11] <it_> daftykins does it work with an usb with fat 32
[03:11] <it_> daftykins does it work with an usb with fat 32
[03:11] <neetz> TJ-:  thanks mate , i need the system just to clear other partitions , so i remove the partitions connecting other hard disks , and this time i deleted partitions of OS hard disk by mistake , so I think what i will do is , I won't reboot my system unless i solve all hard disks issue
[03:11] <daftykins> it_: look it up
[03:11] <it_> daftykins i can not found anything about it
[03:11] <TJ-> neetz: testdisk is definitely the tool to use
[03:12] <TJ-> neetz: I'm off to bed now, good luck with it
[03:12] <daftykins> oh well
[03:13] <it_> daftykins is there one that you are sure will work
[03:13] <daftykins> i have to go now.
[03:13] <it_> Can someone help me how can I copy everything from /home to usb flash drive?
[03:13] <it_> what should i type in the terminal?
[03:14] <Ben64> "man rsync" and read how to use rsync
[03:14] <it_> i want to copy everything even hidden files and hidden folders
[03:15] <Ben64> yep, that information is in the rsync man page
[03:15] <it_> does it work with an usb with fat 32
[03:15] <Ben64> some stuff might not, notably files over 4GB, some filenames won't work either
[03:17] <smokeless> it_: cp -a /home/. /your/mount/point
[03:17] <it_> Ben64 I need a backup of everything in /home
[03:17] <Ben64> it_: read the rsync man page
[03:18] <it_> Ben64 even hidden files and hidden folders
[03:18] <Ben64> yes i know, you've said that
 does it work with an usb fat32
 are you sure
[03:19] <Ben64> it_: fat32 still has the limitations i mentioned
[03:21] <smokeless> it_: does the drive have to remain fat32 for some reason?
[03:22] <it_> smokeless i have other important stuff in it
[03:23] <it_> smokeless i need to use it in windows
[03:24] <Ben64> it_: so use rsync and then verify if all the files are there
[03:25] <Ben64> errors should pop up if it can't do something
[03:25] <it_> Ben64 are you sure
[03:26] <smokeless> it_: If you are worried about an issue, you should probably back up your USB stick somewhere.
[03:26] <it_> Ben64 i need to clone everything
[03:26] <Ben64> right, you've said that many times already
[03:29] <smokeless> it_: as far as will it work with fat32, use this to check http://www.ducea.com/2008/02/12/linux-tips-find-all-files-of-a-particular-size/
[03:30] <it_> so does this work                                            Perform a Simple Backup
[03:30] <it_> The simplest method for backing up over a network is to use rsync via SSH (using the -e ssh option). Alternatively, you can use the rsync daemon (see Rsync Daemon which requires much more configuration. Local backup only requires rsync and read/write access to the folders being synchronized. Below you will find examples of commands that can be used to backup in either case. It should be noted, that a network sync can be performed locally so long as the folde
[03:30] <it_> r is shared (say by Samba) and then mounted to the machine with folder1. This process gets around having to use ssh but is less secure and should only be used in secure private networks, like at your home.
[03:30] <it_> Local Backup
[03:30] <it_> sudo rsync -azvv /home/path/folder1/ /home/path/folder2                                                                           with this -a -azvv
[03:31] <chenli> hello, I want to install openstack  kilo version 2015.1.2 on ubuntu 14.04, any one know how to set the source ? The default package is still 2015.1.1
[03:31] <Ben64> it_: look up those switches in the rsync man page and see if that is what you want, and don't paste so many lines in the channel
[03:33] <allen> anybody got the folders color to work in 15.10 werewolf?
[03:36] <Ranieri_> Hey guys.
[03:36] <Ranieri_> I'm missing the JDK on my installation, how should I go about getting it?
[03:37] <allen> whats JDK?
[03:37] <Ranieri_> allen: Java Development ToolKit I think
[03:38] <Ranieri_> I just sudo apt-get'd it
[03:38] <Gerowen> Ranieri_: It's in the repositories, should be able to just do sudo apt-get install default-jdk
[03:38] <Gerowen> Woops, I was a little late, :P
[03:38] <smokeless> Ranieri: apt-get install default-jdk
[03:38] <Ranieri_> Gerowen: Yup :P
[03:38] <Ranieri_> When you get errors like 'unable to locate package xxx'
[03:38] <Ranieri_> xxx exists, It's just my setup that's weird.
[03:39] <Ben64> explain
[03:40] <Ranieri_> Here's my output for sudo apt-get update
[03:40] <Ranieri_> pastebin.com/PMG0D2sT
[03:41] <Ben64> Ranieri_: thats the full output?
[03:42] <Ranieri_> Ben64: No there's a LONG list preceding that, that's the like tail -10
[03:42] <Ben64> need it all
[03:42] <Ranieri_> Iight
[03:43] <Ranieri_> Ben64: Can I sudo apt-get update > file.txt?
[03:43] <Ben64> sudo apt-get update | nc termbin.com 9999
[03:43] <Ranieri_> woah
[03:44] <Ranieri_> Ben64: LMAOOO it worked: termbin.com/o8az
[03:45] <Ranieri_> Duplicate sources.list entry
[03:45] <Ranieri_> That's the prob I think
[03:45] <daftykins> of course it worked
[03:46] <Ben64> Ranieri_: precise repos in there, other weird stuff, clean up your sources
[03:46] <Ranieri_> Ben64: How?
[03:47] <Ranieri_> Can someone send me their sources.list file ;)?
[03:47] <Ben64> remove precise, remove duplicates
[03:47] <Ranieri_> Ben64: Ohhh kk
[03:48] <vergilprime> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu on my home computer for the first time and I am having trouble installing Java Runtime Environment. I downloaded the tar.gz, moved it to /usr/local/java/ and unpackaged it using sudo, but I suspect the fact that I am not signed in as root made the file permissions wrong somehow. Any ideas what to do here?
[03:50] <Ranieri_> vergilprime: use apt-get
[03:50] <Ranieri_> sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jre if you need JRE
[03:50] <Ranieri_> sudo apt-get install openjdk-8-jdk if you need JDK
[03:51] <paq7512> I have Wine 1.7.50 but after I do an update and don't get the option to install 1.7.53 anyone know what I could do?
[03:51] <vergilprime> Alright thanks, I'll need both eventually
[03:52] <Ben64> paq7512: depends where you got wine 1.7 from
[03:52] <goddard> when you install CUDA 7.5 manually where is the SDK root?
[03:52] <goddard> trying to set my CUDA_HOME variable
[03:53] <goddard> i already have /usr/local/cuda/
[03:53] <paq7512> Ben64, Ubuntu-Wine PPA
[03:54] <Ben64> paq7512: ppa's aren't supported here, check with the maintainer of that or the site and see if its been updated
[03:54] <paq7512> okay thanks
[03:55] <vergilprime> That didn't work: http://paste.thezomg.com/18667/58317231/
[03:56] <Ben64> vergilprime: what version of linux
[03:56] <somsip> !info openjdk | vergilprime
[03:56] <somsip> !find openjdk | vergilprime
[03:57] <vergilprime> Latest version of ubuntu, I'm not super sure the version number. I'm also not super sure how to figure that out yet :x
[03:58] <vergilprime> 14.04 LTS
[03:58] <somsip> !find openjdk precise | vergilprime (see if 8 is listed on the search results)
[03:59] <somsip> vergilprime: and it's not. So 7 is the highest available on 14.04
[03:59] <vergilprime> Okay, that will do :)
[04:00] <Ben64> somsip: correct, but 14.04 is trusty :)
[04:00] <somsip> Ben64: good point! I never remember the names properly...
[04:00] <Ben64> gonna have problems when it comes to xenial xylophone
[04:01] <somsip> Ben64: 16.04 :)
[04:01] <vergilprime> One other question, I copied all my app data for HexChat before I wiped my hard drive, is there somewhere in Ubuntu I can stick it so I get all servers and such back?
[04:01] <Ben64> vergilprime: i don't use hexchat, but probably going to be in ~/.hexchat or something similar
[04:01] <somsip> vergilprime: http://hexchat.readthedocs.org/en/latest/settings.html
[04:01] <wileee> vergilprime, The config you need is in .config
[04:02] <vergilprime> Hrm okey thanks.
[04:02] <vergilprime> How do I show hidden folders with ls again? :x
[04:02] <somsip> vergilprime: ls -la
[04:03] <vergilprime> Thank you
[04:03] <vergilprime> It's been a few months since I've had anything with Ubuntu on it.
[04:03] <Ranieri_> Dude
[04:03] <Ranieri_> Whoever wanted to install the JDK and JRE, I forget your name.
[04:03] <Ranieri_> Use Ubuntu Software Center
[04:03] <vergilprime> Me? :D
[04:03] <dominic1134> hi there, is there any way to display a message after a package has been installed? tried with postinst but had no success because other dependencies will continue to be configured after the postinst script is executed. thanks
[04:04] <dominic1134> with message i mean something like "Package installed, visit http://localhost:8232 to configure..."
[04:04] <vergilprime> I looked there but I am not quite sure what openjdk is, I assumed it was some dev tool so I overlooked it.
[04:04] <chenli> hello, I want to install openstack  kilo version 2015.1.2 on ubuntu 14.04, any one know how to set the source ? The default package is still 2015.1.1
[04:05] <ddr_mobile> Hi all. Distribution upgrade just bailed on me, and my computer won't run gdm. It says something about starting gnome display manager,  and then traps: gnome-shell trap int3 ip:*addr* sp:*addr* error: 0
[04:05] <ddr_mobile> To be clear, by "bailed" I mean it froze while installing packages.
[04:06] <wileee> ddr_mobile, can you get to recovery?
[04:06] <ddr_mobile> Yes.
[04:07] <wileee> ddr_mobile, There is a fix system there. A cli and rw I would run apt-get -f install as well, but we have no idea where it froze here as of now, or any errors.
[04:08] <ddr_mobile> I ran the repair broken packages option, but it didn't help much. Before I did that, it would boot to tty1.
[04:08] <ddr_mobile> I will try that.
[04:08] <wileee> ddr_mobile, Might try a -f install from a tty, lotta outliers as of now so act accordingly.
[04:09] <Brosh> anyone got any experience of boot-repair corrupting windows boot configs?
[04:10] <wileee> Brosh, That will not get help, give the channel the real issue. ;)
[04:10] <Brosh> OK - It's doomed, all of it is doomed, doomed is an appropriate description for my old Windows installation, doomed be it. Is that better? :'(
[04:11] <wileee> sure, it's possessed, get it exorcised
[04:12] <Brosh> I had an issue whereby Windows didn't appear in grub, so I ran boot repair with the add that windows installation to grub option checked, also had the option to repair windows boot files. Now I still have no option to boot windows, but now when I switch in BIOS to boot from the windows drive, I get some corrupted boot file error
[04:12] <wileee> Brosh, if you saved the bootinfo summary let us see the link.
[04:12] <Brosh> gloriously enough, i bookmarked it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12967776/
[04:13] <Brosh> I'm not sure what that first bit is trying to say, there is only one Windows installation on this machine on sdd (IIRC)
[04:14] <Brosh> the HDD has also shrivelled down by a few GB, which I only just noticed.
[04:14] <wileee> Brosh, Ah a bit messy, boot-repair is the unlikely culprit, hopefully you can get help and are backed up.
[04:15] <Brosh> Sadly didn't bother to back anything up, in my experience it's usually easier just to reformat my machine (most of my shit is, in spite of having 6 HDDs locally, networked).
[04:15] <Brosh> Thanks though, I'll go find my hammer and see if I can't fix it the old fashioned way.
[04:16] <ddr_mobile> wileee: I got an error from the dpkg repair broken packages. http://www.pasteall.org/pic/94552 I don't know what it means, though, do you?
[04:17] <wileee> ddr_mobile, Not in any depth to really help, sorry.
[04:17] <ycon_> Hi all, I"ve created a script in /etc/init/uwsgi.conf. I'm trying to start it (start uwsgi service did not work). Any ideas?
[04:19] <wileee> ddr_mobile, We see bad upgrades in general with users adding 3rd party repos and having a dependency issue. Ubuntu will shutdown the repos on an upgrade, but the packages are still there, this sound familiar, like ppa's?
[04:19] <ddr_mobile> I had a handful installed, yes.
[04:20] <ddr_mobile> Three or four, but I don't remember what they were for.
[04:20] <wileee> ddr_mobile, That may be your clue, just guessing, but a very good guess.
[04:20] <ddr_mobile> I am apt to agree.
[04:21] <ddr_mobile> I just don't know what to do about it.
[04:21] <wileee> ddr_mobile, The repos are in ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ take a look at them and their website for app info you have installed.
[04:23] <wileee> ddr_mobile, I'm a fan of reinstall if repairs take longer for my own OS, but linux is a fixable setup if you wan to spend the time and that is important.
[04:25] <ddr_mobile> Dropbox, steam, yannubuntu (a repair tool from the last time I broke things) and strukturag for codecs I think.
[04:26] <it_> **** default - Mon Oct 26 04:18:53 2015
[04:26] <it_> ** Launching RSYNC command:
[04:26] <it_> pkexec rsync -r -t -v --progress --modify-window=1 -s /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/ /media/it/861C51901C517BDD/HOMEBACKUP/
[04:26] <it_> sending incremental file list
[04:26] <it_> skipping non-regular file ".directory"
[04:26] <it_> skipping non-regular file "ibm/Examples"
[04:26] <ddr_mobile> I'd prefer not to have to configure stuff again. It took a long time to get kubuntu working with my high-dpi monitor.
[04:26] <Ben64> it_: remember when i said, "don't paste so many lines in the channel"
[04:26] <Bray90820> Does anyone know of a good replacement for the apple magic mouse that works properly with ubuntu
[04:27] <it_> why skipping what is wrong now?
[04:27] <wileee> ddr_mobile, There is also /etc/apt/sources.list look in there, you can see all this in software & updates  gui
[04:27] <wileee> also
[04:28] <wileee> Bray90820, You mean apple allowed someone to copy them?
[04:28] <Ben64> it_: you didn't choose the right switches for rsync
[04:28] <RepThis1> In the file system hierarchy standard where do they suggest your mount newly created paritions/volumes?
[04:28] <Bray90820> wileee:What do you mean
[04:28] <Bray90820> I am looking for a multi touch mouse that works with ubuntu
[04:28] <wileee> Bray90820, That is my question actually.
[04:29] <it_> Ben64 why
[04:29] <it_> Ben64 what is wrong
[04:29] <Bray90820> Basically I am looking for something similar to the apple mouse that works properly with ubuntu
[04:29] <Ranieri_> What's Ubuntu's equivalent to a PATH env variable and how do I modify it?
[04:30] <Brosh> Ranieri_, ~/.profile
[04:30] <Brosh> in fact, might be best just to link this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60218/how-to-add-a-directory-to-my-path
[04:30] <Ranieri_> Brosh: OMG that makes sense lol
[04:31] <RepThis1> im gonna assume its mnt
[04:31] <Brosh> A lot of things make more sense here than on Windows, but a lot of things are also ridiculously painful to do :(
[04:31] <RepThis1> although automatically it put its in run/media ?
[04:32] <tlwh520> im
[04:32] <ycon_> I'm trying to reverse this command I acciently did as sudo "usermod -a -G www-data username". How can this be odne?
[04:32] <ycon_> *done
[04:32] <Brosh> RepThis1, I don't think there is a "recommended" place, it just depends what you're using the partitions for... Most people will only have the basic partitions on a disk, any more than that are entirely custom and should be treated as such
[04:34] <Brosh> ycon_, you've added a group to a user, so you should be able to just remove it I think... maybe deluser username www-data
[04:34] <RepThis1> Brosh: well i mean you prob woulnt place it in /bin or /etc but maybe /home/x /media/x /mnt/x idk
[04:35] <Brosh> RepThis1, My desktop I didn't bother to mount them anywhere other than the default /media/, where they automatically mounted. My servers are set up such that I have a 1TB constellation drive at /var/music/, one at /var/photos, and a 120GB SSD as the OS drive
[04:35] <highdivr> :-)
[04:35] <RepThis1> not sure about /run which is what the system wants to place it in, but that isnt even listed in the file system hierarchy, and maybe that is done by systemd?
[04:35] <ycon_> Brosh, thx
[04:36] <Brosh> ycon_, any time
[04:37] <Brosh> RepThis1, If you want to use it for storign installed applications, /opt, if you want to use it for storing user data, /home, If you want to use it for anything else, probably /var
[04:38] <Brosh> It might be painful to set up such that it's used in /opt though, so either /home or /var would be most ideal
[04:38] <it_> Ben64 can i copy everything to one file with rsync?
[04:39] <it_> Ben64 like zip or something else?
[04:43] <Brosh> it_, what's the purpose of the it, if you don't mind me asking?
[04:44] <it_> the live session of xubuntu
[04:45] <it_> maybe even ubuntu
[04:46] <dnixer> anyone get spotify to install in ubuntu?
[04:46] <Brosh> it_, are you trying to run the live session while you've got another installed, and sync the two? Or are you just moving from the live session to a solid installation?
[04:47] <Brosh> dnixer, I've had it working in the past, is there any particular issue you're facing?
[04:47] <dnixer> https://www.spotify.com/us/download/linux/  -  does not work - no errors following those instructions, but when opening spotify nothing happens
[04:48] <Brosh> have you tried calling it from terminal? "spotify-client -v" or similar might produce verbose logging?
[04:48] <Brosh> also, keep in mind if you have some debugger running it might not work. They don't like people running debugger and spotify at the same time
[04:48] <it_> not really i am using the live session for copying the /home to usb
[04:49] <it_> and it is the same usb for both
[04:49] <Brosh> it_, ohh, you want some sort of portable installation which syncs with your home installation i guess?
[04:50] <dnixer> thanks running it -v gave me a clue which lead me to https://community.spotify.com/t5/Help-Desktop-Linux-Windows-Web/Ubuntu-15-04-ships-with-libgcrypt20-but-spotify-app-version-is/m-p/1121359/highlight/true#M123644
[04:50] <dnixer> something about the libgcrypt20 incompatiblity
[04:50] <Brosh> it_, I'm at a loss tbh, rsync should "just work", I could understand if it was ignoring all hidden files or something. Perhaps check the permissions of the files and see if something is different about those files
[04:50] <Brosh> dnixer, did you try install libgcrypt11?
[04:50] <it_> no i wheel reinstall xubuntu after copying /home
[04:52] <Brosh> it_, so its just a temporary measure? might be easier just to dump the whole thing in a tarball... tar -zcvf name.tar.gz /path/to/directory
[04:52] <it_> and after the installation of xubuntu restore it back to the place
[04:52] <Brosh> it_, how long did you use the live cd for? I can't imagine you'd have so much stuff that it'd be difficult to specify what to keep
[04:53] <alyyy> hi all, quick question.  I'm running Ubuntu 14.4.3 LTS and have a bluetooth.  It works fine, but every time I connect the speaker, I need to go into Sound Settings and highlight the bluetooth speaker to have control over the volume.  Is there a way to make the bluetooth speaker default somehow?
[04:54] <it_> Brosh i have already xubuntu install on the computer
[04:54] <Brosh> alyyy, are you using unity (default ubuntu desktop environment, with the orange)?
[04:55] <alyyy> Yup, using unity
[04:55] <it_> Brosh i use the usb for reinstall xubuntu only
[04:55] <UniFreak> what's the `read-only` option for in the terminal? when right click?
[04:55] <it_> Brosh and copy before
[04:55] <Brosh> alyyy, I'm actually not sure. I know how to in KDE but the audio manager is very different
[04:56] <it_> Brosh and restore after the installation
[04:56] <Brosh> it_, right, so I guess yeah, might as well just dump it all into a tarball and extract it later
[04:56] <Brosh> UniFreak, which read only option?
[04:56] <samssammerz> Is there a way to install emacs without all of the bloat (like the calendar, vcs, mail reader, games) and just install the text editing functions and the lisp environment?
[04:56] <it_> Brosh how do you mean?
[04:57] <it_> Brosh like zip?
[04:57] <dnixer> Brosh, thanks I fixed it had to just install that file (found it via a website)
[04:57] <alyyy> Brosh, yeah, this is more of a minor nuisance than anything, but it seems odd if I connect a new sound device, it dosn't select it for me so I have to reset the option every time.
[04:57] <alyyy> Brosh, thanks tho :)
[04:58] <Brosh> it_, if you want to go all windowsy, like this: tar -zcvf /path/to/where/you/want/tarball/name.tar.gz /path/to/directory/you/want/to/compress/
[04:58] <Brosh> that'll create a .tar.gz which contains the files you tell it to put in there
[04:58] <it_> Brosh i want to be able to open it in windows also
[04:59] <it_> Brosh the usb has fat 32
[04:59] <Brosh> it_, I think you can open tar.gz in 7zip on windows?
[05:00] <it_> Brosh i want to be able to open it in windows also
[05:00] <it_> Brosh the usb has fat 32
[05:00] <Brosh> it_, maybe just zip /path/to/stuff/to/output/zip.zip /path/to/stuff/to/compress
[05:00] <it_> Brosh double zip
[05:01] <it_> Brosh how do you mean
[05:01] <Brosh> put that
[05:01] <Brosh> into terminal
[05:01] <Brosh> the command
[05:01] <Brosh> zip
[05:01] <Brosh> followed by file to compress to
[05:01] <Brosh> followed by folder to compress
[05:02] <it_> Brosh but i want everything even system files
[05:03] <it_> Brosh a full clone
[05:03] <it_> Brosh but i want everything even system files
[05:03] <it_> Brosh a full clone
[05:05] <Brosh> it_, right... what's the purpose of the whole thing? If you're just going to re-produce it, it doesn't make sense. Are you migrating to another HDD? Copying the installation to another machine?
[05:06] <Brosh> it_, you'd have to manually install a boot loader, and do things which I wouldn't know where to begin with... If you're moving to another machine, use CloneZilla or similar. If you've got a new hard drive, either just clone the partition or again use CloneZilla. If the OS is broken in some way, you really shouldn't be copying the whole thing in the first place, since whatever is broken will be broken on new system too.
[05:06] <it_> Brosh i want to keep all settings
[05:07] <Brosh> it_, yes but why do you want to re-create the OS in the first place?
[05:07] <it_> Brosh no the same machine
[05:08] <Brosh> So let me get things straight here
[05:08] <Brosh> you have an OS, which you can't use for *insert reason here*. You want to clone that OS, keeping all settings, using a LiveCD image to boot from, then copying the entire hard drive partition using rsync?
[05:09] <it_> Brosh no only /home
[05:09] <krsna-> maybe something from /etc
[05:10] <krsna-> like configs
[05:10] <krsna-> for servers
[05:10] <it_> Brosh /home and everything in it like all settings and all files
[05:11] <slimjimflim> hi, i recently updated my ubuntu and now when i try to log in with one of my various x windows managers, i get logged in automatically as 'guest'
[05:11] <krsna-> all settings do not reside in /home
[05:11] <slimjimflim> wtf
[05:11] <slimjimflim> 'guest' shouldn't have permission to log in at all
[05:11] <slimjimflim> this is a security issue
[05:11] <it_> Brosh i want to keep all settings
[05:11] <it_> Brosh no the same machine
[05:11] <slimjimflim> more so, i can't log in with my usual user name
[05:11] <it_> Brosh no only /home
[05:11] <alyyy> slimjimflim, are you sure it's actually guest?  what happens when you open a terminal and run "whoami"
[05:11] <it_> Brosh /home and everything in it like all settings and all files
[05:12] <slimjimflim> alyyy: yes, i'm sure
[05:12] <slimjimflim> alyyy: `whoami` returns "guest"
[05:12] <krsna-> it_: *all* settings arent in /home
[05:12] <slimjimflim> this is a major problem. has anyone else had the same issue?
[05:12] <alyyy> slimjimflim, is your user account still in /etc/passwd?
[05:13] <slimjimflim> i almost never come into this chat, but this is serious
[05:13] <krsna-> slimjimflim: stop trolling
[05:13] <it_> Brosh i know the one they are
[05:13] <it_> Brosh the profile
[05:13] <slimjimflim> alyyy: yes
[05:13] <slimjimflim> krsna-: i'm not trolling
[05:14] <slimjimflim> i'm 99% sure this is because of an update to ubuntu released within the last 24 hours
[05:14] <slimjimflim> i could be wrong
[05:14] <krsna-> slimjimflim: put /bin/false in passwd
[05:14] <krsna-> /etc/passwd
[05:14] <krsna-> as shell
[05:15] <krsna-> then login is disabled
[05:15] <slimjimflim> krsna-: what do you mean by 'put'?
[05:15] <it_> Brosh i want to keep all settings
[05:16] <it_> Brosh no the same machine
[05:16] <it_> Brosh no only /home
[05:16] <it_> Brosh /home and everything in it like all settings and all files
[05:17] <krsna-> slimjimflim: edit with your favorite txt editor
[05:17] <krsna-> i prefer vim
[05:17] <krsna-> echo $editor
[05:23] <delt> Hello
[05:23] <delt> i'm developing a card game, and i'm trying to support card themes used by aisleriot. (aka "sol")
[05:23] <delt> in ubuntu/mint, aisleriot comes only with one default card theme, which kind of sucks by its own....
[05:24] <delt> but, aisleriot has the option to fetch more card themes from the internet. In ubuntu/linux mint, again this option does not work:
[05:24] <delt> "Catalog could not be read"
[05:24] <delt> "The catalog file '/usr/share/aisleriot/aisleriot.catalog' doesn't exist."
[05:25] <Kivi> I'm trying to install ubuntu on this acer aspire, and the only way to get it to boot from the usb was to disconnect the hdd when booting. I plugged it back in, and now I want to get ubuntu live usb to detect it. How can I do this?
[05:26] <asdffff> without breaking it?
[05:27] <Kivi> hmmm?
[05:28] <asdffff> it doesnt detect the hdd when running ubuntu off the usb stick?
[05:28] <alyyy> Kivi, do you have your bios settings to boot from USB before booting from HD?
[05:29] <Kivi> alyyy, its an acer... it won't let me access bios. Seriously; don't buy acer aspires.
[05:29] <asdffff> not unless you need too?
[05:29] <alyyy> Kivi, uhg that's so awful haha
[05:29] <Kivi> alyyy, it is. I'm installing ubuntu for a friend. Old feller.
[05:29] <Kivi> alyyy, anyway, i'm booted in the live usb, so that hurdle is over
[05:30] <Kivi> alyyy, now I just need to find out how to detect the hdd; I reconnected it after I turned on the computer.
[05:30] <asdffff> some of the ubuntu iso files are corrupted...
[05:30] <asdffff> so they wouldnt install...might be the problem.
[05:31] <beepie> asdffff, your name is corrupted
[05:31] <asdffff> be a bit more clear beepie...
[05:31] <alyyy> Kivi, right.  I'm not sure, I would imagine it only detects HD at boot.  So you would need to figure out how to "refresh" that maybe?  This sounds stupid but can you connect the HD really really quick after the USB kicks in? Maybe you can plug it in before it starts to detect them
[05:31] <asdffff> cause ill kick the fuck out your head if thats what you wanna kno?
[05:32] <asdffff> it was like version 14.04.....
[05:32] <asdffff> installed onto the stick......didnt work like a gay man...
[05:33] <asdffff> if that illegal to say....
[05:33] <asdffff> imma not say it ever again?
[05:33] <Kivi> alyyy, Yeah, I see what you mean. I did it fairly quick... not there, and not showing up.
[05:33] <Kivi> I think i'll try installing ubuntu to my usb disk :P see if that turns of the stupid bios settings set up by acer windows recovery
[05:34] <asdffff> hdd might be disabled in bios?
[05:34] <alyyy> well he can't get to the bios
[05:34] <asdffff> might be a burnt hd?
[05:34] <asdffff> f2  f12?
[05:34] <Kivi> don't buy acer, ever.
[05:35] <slimjimflim> krsna-: so you're saying if i add a line to the end of /etc/passwd with the text, "/bin/false" it will be impossible for the user "guest" to automatically login, right?
[05:35] <asdffff> acer are like the disposables of all pc's?
[05:35] <asdffff> maybe acers are waterrproof....
[05:36] <alyyy> slimjimflim, yeah that dosn't sound like it would work, /etc/passwd isn't a bash script or anything.
[05:36] <slimjimflim> i'm more concerned that an ubuntu update added a user without prompting me
[05:36] <asdffff> though if you seriously need some tech help from me, you can just pm me.
[05:36] <slimjimflim> alyyy: yea, that sounded wrong
[05:36] <krsna-> slimjimflim: change bin/bash to bin/false
[05:36] <asdffff> im starting to think this is just a waste of time.
[05:36] <asdffff> paranoia.....
[05:37] <slimjimflim> krsna-: in /etc/passwd?
[05:37] <slimjimflim> krsna-: will that affect other users?
[05:37] <krsna-> slimjimflim: no
[05:37] <alyyy> asdffff: that's just the shell that starts after you login though
[05:37] <alyyy> so you would have to login first
[05:37] <slimjimflim> alyyy: right
[05:37] <beepie> asdffff, you're right. it is waste of time.
[05:37] <Kivi> asdffff, nah, thinkpads are waterproof. My dad spillt water on his acer, and was about to buy another one until I pointed out that thinkpads are water proof.
[05:38] <krsna-> user cannot login if thevlogin shell is disabled. ffs
[05:38] <slimjimflim> krsna-: i have an entry for 'guest' in my /etc/passwd
[05:38] <slimjimflim> with '/bin/bash/' in the same line
[05:39] <slimjimflim> is that the line you're saying i should change?
[05:39] <slimjimflim> *are you saying i should change that line?
[05:39] <beepie> chsh
[05:39] <beepie> ^
[05:39] <slimjimflim> how did that line get into my /etc/passwd in the first place?
[05:39] <krsna-> chnage /bin/bash to /bin/false
[05:39] <slimjimflim> krsna-: i see what you're saying now, but how did that line ever get into my /etc/passwd??
[05:39] <alyyy> slimjimflim, careful if that's the only account you can login to though, you mentioned you couldn't login to your main one
[05:40] <krsna-> slimjimflim: i think guest is default in desktop installations
[05:40] <slimjimflim> alyyy: no, i can login with other accounts.  i'm logged in now with my normal account on another tty
[05:40] <slimjimflim> it seems to be only an issue with x windows
[05:40] <krsna-> slimjimflim: also check /etc/group
[05:41] <slimjimflim> for what
[05:41] <krsna-> slimjimflim: that your primary user(s) is in correct groups
[05:41] <slimjimflim> right
[05:41] <krsna-> that u use for desktop
[05:42] <beepie> krsna-, "you"
[05:42] <slimjimflim> lol
[05:42] <slimjimflim> pedantics
[05:42]  * beepie thinks it's more clear to use "you" instead of "u"
[05:42] <slimjimflim> agreed
[05:43] <alyyy> lol
[05:43] <krsna-> beepie: u think :)
[05:43] <bratac> Hi, i formatted my hard disk to make a clean install and I forget to backup some documents. Can I recover it?
[05:43] <slimjimflim> ok i'll try that all now, krsna- hopefully i won't lock myself out of this box forever :P
[05:43] <penos> no u cant
[05:44] <bratac> thans for your sicerity penos
[05:44] <penos> np
[05:44] <alyyy> bratac, how did you format it?
[05:44] <krsna-> theoritically speaking possible
[05:44] <bratac> i had elementaryos and i installed last ubuntu from usb
[05:45] <krsna-> u need to write 20 times to sector to be sure no files are recorable
[05:45] <krsna-> if dealin with the feds
[05:45] <bratac> that's some way to recover it?
[05:45] <alyyy> bratac, most likely not then, sorry :( file recovery is usually more possible if you just erase a file. if you install a new os it probably overwritten, if not cleared all the data that was on there
[05:46] <bratac> thanks for your answer alyyy
[05:46] <alyyy> bratac, you can try some recovery software, but I've never been able to recover anything that's been formatted before
[05:46] <slimjimflim> krsna-: alyyy error was between monitor and keyboard ;) i clicked the wrong button on the login screen
[05:47] <bratac> i tryed testdisk, but i wasn't capable to recover anything
[05:47] <slimjimflim> sorry for any confusion. i assume 'guest' has been a username for a long time.
[05:47] <alyyy> slimjimflim, aha, funny.  it happens :) glad it's figured out!
[05:48] <beepie> bratac, next time try virtualbox
[05:48] <beepie> bratac, if installing anything native, it is your fault if you do not do a backup. #1 rule.
[05:49]  * beepie thinks new users should stop thinking like Windows ones.
[05:49] <beepie> ha!
[05:49] <bratac> i know beepie. In fact i backed up all except one folder
[05:49] <alyyy> yeah it happens sometimes
[05:50] <beepie> not me
[05:50] <bratac> next time i'll like beepie
[05:50] <beepie> cuse you know i know. I backup my **(&(&(
[05:50] <bratac> and i'll backup all files
[05:50] <beepie> it's basically
[05:50] <alyyy> bratac, I recommend making a clonezilla USB stick and making an imagine of your hard drive. that way you can restore it if anything goes wrong or you forget to backup something.
[05:51] <beepie>  /var /etc, /home ... for the (most part 99%).. if you've got third parties, sometimes they may end up in /usr/local
[05:51] <sonu> hello
[05:51] <bratac> thanks alyyy
[05:52] <beepie> (/opt seems to be common for apps like google chrome, this might be something else worth considering for backup depending on use case)
[05:52] <sonu> I was using selenium for testing.
[05:52] <alyyy> bratac, no probs! :)
[05:52] <sonu> I got to know about the developer edition
[05:52] <sonu> so i installed that
[05:52] <bratac> :D
[05:53] <sonu> then i realised that those 2 are completely different elements
[05:53] <sonu> now when i try to uninstall, it doesn't
[05:54] <sonu> even if i uninstall firefox and the reinstall, its the developer edition that comes back
[05:54] <bratac> thankks for your help
[05:54] <bratac> bye
[05:55] <sonu> how can i get rid of it/?
[05:55] <grex> @sonu, make sure you apt source to developer edition is gone too
[05:56] <delt> i just tried to access the help in aisleriot and it took down my X. goodie.
[05:56] <sonu> i'm new to ubuntu as well!
[05:57] <sonu> @grex, how do i do that?
[05:58] <sonu> instruct me, i will follow
[05:59] <grex> @sonu, "Software & Update" > "Other Software"
[05:59] <grex> look for any dubious entry, remove/uncheck them
[06:08] <VergilPrime> So my laptop is pretty old from around 2007, it was one of the early ones to have dual graphics processors. I have an AMD chipset, but it looks like only the Intel is being used. Any idea how to enable my AMD gpu?
[06:08] <VergilPrime> Dual gpus as in Intel integrated graphics and also a dedicated AMD chipset.
[06:11] <Alias_handle> hi
[06:11] <beepie> hi
[06:11] <beepie> i
[06:11] <beepie> ihihih
[06:11] <Laibsch> anybody here familiar with union filesystems (not necessarily unionfs)?  I'm curious if there is a union filesystem that will continue to function well if the lower filesystem goes away (let's say a USB stick being pulled)
[06:11] <Alias_handle> is there a simple procedure to set up iptables?
[06:12] <quantic> Alias_handle: ufw
[06:12] <beepie> Laibsch, well there's advanced mount options that seemingly do a bit of union-like options
[06:12] <VergilPrime> Um be really careful Alias_handle
[06:12] <beepie> Alias_handle, yeah
[06:12] <VergilPrime> I made a huge mistake and it locked me out of my server :x
[06:12] <Laibsch> beepie: advanced mount options to what FS?
[06:12] <quantic> Alias_handle: Heed the warnings. Goof up iptables and you'll be locked out of your own stuff.
[06:12] <beepie> Alias_handle, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[06:13] <quantic> Alias_handle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[06:13] <VergilPrime> To be fair, I got my commands right, but UFW overwrote my changes.
[06:13] <Alias_handle> well ive got apache2 running and want to dmz my router but scared without some security is sorted
[06:13] <VergilPrime> Or at least thats what I think happened.
[06:13] <beepie> Alias_handle, for basic desktop you just need one rule that is RELATED,ESTABLISHED for INPUT ... you can set the default policy to DROP for INPUT but keep the default ACCEPT for OUTPUT
[06:13] <Alias_handle> alright ill check the links
[06:13] <quantic> Alias_handle: dmz what and why? Without a GOOD reason, DMZ anything is a terrible idea.
[06:13] <beepie> Alias_handle, that's pretty much it actually -- and that is for workstations..
[06:13] <Alias_handle> for my website
[06:14] <beepie> Alias_handle, oh well then !!! lol you gotta learn iptables properly!!
[06:14] <quantic> Alias_handle: returning to that question, why are you DMZing something for a service that requires one (maybe two) open ports?
[06:14] <beepie> Laibsch, if you see the manpage to mount, there's advanced options
[06:15] <Alias_handle> i dno i thought it opened my computer up to the internet, does that mean all my ports become open ?
[06:15] <VergilPrime> Yeah just port foreward man :P and open up the ports you want people to connect to.
[06:15] <quantic> Alias_handle: what do you think "opened my computer up to the internet" means?
[06:16] <quantic> Alias_handle: forward port 80 to your webserver and be done with it.
[06:16] <Alias_handle> alright sound
[06:16] <VergilPrime> Is 80 open be default in iptables?
[06:17] <quantic> Nothing is opened by default in iptables. :P
[06:17] <VergilPrime> I thought so
[06:17] <Ben64> everything is open by default...
[06:17] <quantic> At least, when the input chain is properly configured to default drop.
[06:17] <quantic> Without ANY configuration at all, everything is wide open.
[06:17] <quantic> And that's about the only safety net you get.
[06:18] <VergilPrime> so Alias_handle you will need to open port 80 in iptables, and you will have to foreward incoming connections on port 90 in your router to whatever your webservers local IP address is
[06:18] <Alias_handle> what?
[06:18] <Alias_handle> okay but what was quantic saying about iptables being totally open by default?
[06:19] <Ben64> don't bother with iptables, just use your router to forward the port(s)
[06:19] <Alias_handle> right
[06:19] <Ben64> or even better, get an actual server to host the website, or make sure your ISP allows you to host a site on the connection
[06:20] <quantic> ^
[06:20] <Alias_handle> so i dont need to play with iptables?
[06:20] <Ben64> nope, your router acts as a firewall
[06:20] <Ben64> unless you use DMZ of course
[06:20] <quantic> depending on your ISP (mine, for example) port 80 is flat blocked from the outside so that you can't host websites.
[06:20] <Alias_handle> im just playing, i dont intend to run this as a server im just experimenting
[06:20] <Laibsch> beepie: Yes, there are many. I was thinking you might narrow it down what you are referring to.  As you know, "man mount" doesn't talk about union FS at all.
[06:21] <beepie> i recall reading this on wikipedia, unionfs is rather aged, maybe there's aufs that does the job better -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UnionFS
[06:21] <Alias_handle> okay port forward 80 and leave iptables alone?
[06:23] <Ben64> Alias_handle: yep thats the easiest and best way to do it
[06:23] <Laibsch>  beepie: rest assured I read up at least a certain amount, including wikipedia.  I have a very specific question that won't be answered by "just google", "read wikipedia article on UnionFS" etc.  It's still unclear to me what advanced mount options you were referring to that might be relevant here.
[06:25] <Laibsch> FWIW, I cannot find "advanced mount options" in "man mount", nothing really related to "advanced" at all there
[06:25] <beepie> Laibsch, the bottom of the man main section for mount.. those options
[06:25] <beepie> (shared subtree operations)
[06:25] <beepie> maybe that might help to what you're trying to accomplish
[06:26] <Laibsch> the word subtree is not present in "man mount"
[06:27] <Laibsch> "man 8 mount"
[06:27] <Laibsch> that is what I mean by being specific
[06:28] <Laibsch> That sounds indeed interesting
[06:28] <Laibsch> Thank you
[06:28] <beepie> there so you found the manpage..
[06:28] <beepie> :)
[06:28] <VergilPrime> Is there a way to add a folder to my "places" menu in my file browser?
[06:28] <beepie> hurrah.
[06:30] <VergilPrime> Are my questions just not Linuxy enough for you all? D:
[06:31] <Crysp_> try dragging the folder
[06:32] <VergilPrime> I did that. I also noted that I can -remove- a folder from the list, so I assume I can add a folder.
[06:34] <Crysp_> If it doesnt work, try another file navigator. There are plenty other good ones.
[06:34] <VergilPrime> The default file browser isn't the best one? :<
[06:35] <alyyy> VergilPrime, I don't think there's a best, it's just preference.  I don't think you can add your own folders under places, you can under bookmarks though
[06:36] <alyyy> although I would think there's a config file you could modify in a text file to add folders if you really wanted
[06:36] <VergilPrime> Okay. I'm trying not to start replacing default apps until I am a little more comfortable with the OS.
[06:39] <alyyy> VergilPrime, yeah that's probably a good plan.  it's totally fine for most things.
[06:39] <wileee> VergilPrime, Be aware we support only what is in the main repos here, if you go 3rd party you're on your own. ;)
[06:40] <Laibsch> beepie: unfortunately, shared subtree is something else
[06:40] <VergilPrime> wileee I don't even know what that really means, I assume whatever I can get from the software updater :P
[06:41] <wileee> !ppa | VergilPrime here is an example
[06:42] <wileee> VergilPrime, I'm just giving you info about support here so you don't paint yourself into a corner and ask for help here. ;)
[06:43] <VergilPrime> Thanks, I'm sure I'll end up making a fool of myself anyways, but I appreciate the gesture.
[06:43] <wileee> heh we all do, enjoy
[06:44] <noob> ajarin main irc dong
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> noob: can we help you?
[06:45] <VergilPrime> For instance a few hours ago I mixed up "rm -rf ./" and "rm -rf ~/"
[06:45] <VergilPrime> So that was exciting.
[06:46] <alyyy> haha, good stuff
[06:46] <noob> how to playing this ?
[06:47] <noob> uname -a
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> !terminal | noob here
[06:51] <alyyy> night guys
[06:52] <beepie> gn
[07:05] <nameuser_> An ORM method can return a view, but can i return a redirection to an external URL?
[07:06] <absklb> hi
[07:07] <absklb> how can i troubleshoot no sound in headphone.
[07:07] <absklb> 15.04
[07:08] <curiousx> absklb: do you have two audio cards ?
[07:09] <absklb> no idea. but no sountd in speakker and headphone. i tried ubuntu wiki which says to delete some pulseaudio files etc. but that does not help. curiousx
[07:10] <curiousx> absklb: paste: lspci grep -i audio
[07:12] <Mcl0vin> Hi, i have used ffmpeg to join a video & audio together, but I am having issue syncing audio. is this something i get help with here or do i need to go to another channel?
[07:12] <absklb> curiousx: 00:01.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini HDMI/DP Audio
[07:12] <absklb> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 02)y
[07:12] <absklb> Mcl0vin: ##ffmpeg
[07:13] <absklb> Mcl0vin: or maybe single #
[07:14] <curiousx> so i you try one of the from the sound setting nothing happend absklb ? no sound ?
[07:16] <curiousx> absklb: what says alsamixer ? is the volume low ? notice that you can chose sound card pressing F6 in alsamixer
[07:17] <absklb> curiousx: all volumes  high in alsamixer. yes selected correct card in F6.
[07:17] <absklb> curiousx: how can i know if this is really a hardware failure?
[07:18] <curiousx> tryin' another OSs, like see if works in windows
[07:19] <absklb> right. will do that. thanks.
[07:19] <curiousx> that's the easiest way that came to my mind, but, paste dmesg
[07:19] <curiousx> dmesg will tell if you have a hardware failure too
[07:19] <absklb> yeah.
[07:19] <absklb> which lines to look for in dmesg?
[07:19] <Mcl0vin> thank you absklb. it is actually one # :)
[07:20] <curiousx> absklb: if there is an error, it will be colored in red (default)
[07:20] <absklb> ok
[07:21] <absklb> curiousx: please check https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ec87895407292a9dd107
[07:23] <curiousx> there is a script aswell that gives exautive details about you sound system, but i use that long time ago idk if still workin' maybe i could find it and try idk -.-
[07:23] <absklb> where is that script?
[07:26] <curiousx> absklb: this doesn't look good: speaker_outs=0 (0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0/0x0)  i put that on "startpage" and sent me to a askubuntu thread :p
[07:26] <curiousx> absklb: wich ubuntu version are you running ?
[07:27] <absklb> curiousx: 15.04. what is startpage?
[07:27] <absklb> oh search engine.
[07:28] <curiousx> startpage is a search engine: https://startpage.com
[07:29] <absklb> yeah
[07:30] <curiousx> absklb: try this: sudo apt-get remove --purge alsa-base pulseaudio ; sudo apt-get install alsa-base pulseaudio ; sudo alsa force-reload
[07:30] <jampa> hu
[07:30] <jampa> hi
[07:30] <jampa> okey
[07:31] <absklb> curiousx: ok
[07:31] <absklb> jampa: hi
[07:31] <jampa> ??
[07:31] <jampa> oh
[07:33] <curiousx> absklb: try if you can hear something
[07:35] <curiousx> absklb: i'm searhing you are not the onlyone havein' issues with that sound card
[07:37] <absklb> yeah. that above commands does not help.
[07:38] <artois> help with what
[07:38] <curiousx> absklb: you could try the privative driver from amd -.-
[07:39] <absklb> ok
[07:39] <curiousx> absklb: since you are in 15.04 there is no problem with amd drivers, go to additional driver, install it from there
[07:40] <absklb> ok
[07:41] <curiousx> absklb: or you could upgrade to 15.10 to see if upgrading fix the problem, but in 15.10 you cannot use privative drivers from amd atm
[07:41] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me what im doing wrong here ... I get Read only from 10 and 2 /mnt/files1 10.0.0.2(rw) 10.0.0.10(rw) 10.0.0.0/24(ro)
[07:43] <learnit> part
[07:43] <absklb>  /
[07:43] <marcus99184> Hey guys I would just like to say thanks for Ubuntu MATE 15.10. It is very fast and stable and provides that "classic Ubuntu" feel.
[07:43] <pozq> salut a tous
[07:44] <pozq> j'ai un souci d'installation avec ubuntu 15.10
[07:44] <pozq> L'installateur a détecté que des partitions sur les disques suivants sont montées :
[07:44] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me what im doing wrong here ... I get Read only from 10 and 2 /mnt/files1 10.0.0.2(rw) 10.0.0.10(rw) 10.0.0.0/24(ro) oh sorry ... NFS Export on file server
[07:45] <pozq>  Voulez-vous que le processus d'installation essaye de démonter les partitions sur ce disque avant de continuer ? Si vous les laissez montées, vous ne pourrez pas créer, supprimer ni redimensionner de partitions sur ce disque, mais vous pourrez peut-être installer le système sur les partitions existantes.
[07:45] <pozq> que j'appuye sur oui ou sur non
[07:45] <pozq> il ne se passe plus rien après
[07:45] <DJones> !fr | pozq
[07:46] <sikio> what's the point of short term support versions, ie. XX.10?
[07:47] <DJones> sikio: Generally so that people can have newer versions of software, LTS releases don't generally get updated software - just security releases
[07:48] <sikio> alright
[07:52] <pozq> so I didn't see that I was on english channel
[07:52] <pozq> I have a problem with ubuntu 15.10 install
[07:53] <pozq> when it ask to connect to wifi, I clic on continue
[07:53] <pozq> and I have an error who say that I have some partition who is mounted
[07:54] <agent_white> !paste
[07:55] <agent_white> Hm... which is the bad one again?
[07:55] <agent_white> Pastie?
[07:55] <agent_white> !pastie
[07:56] <linuxuz3r> i get an error unable to autolaunch dbus
[07:56] <linuxuz3r> what is the problem with it
[07:59] <toshiaki_mac> hello
[07:59] <toshiaki_epson> hello mac
[07:59] <Lurchy> ?
[08:01] <blackfighter> tinni
[08:01] <VergilPrime> Nother silly quesion. Is there a way I can make my .sh scripts run when I double click them instead of opening up a text editor?
[08:01] <portablejim_mac> I'm having a very weird problem, that may be due to btrfs. I can't touch a file due to no space on the device, but every tool I try says there's plenty of space.
[08:01] <artois> VergilPrime: properties
[08:02] <VergilPrime> Oh cool
[08:02] <VergilPrime> Thanks lemme try that
[08:03] <toshiaki_mac> hello eps
[08:04] <toshiaki_epson> hello mac
[08:04] <iBurley> Hey guys, anybody have a decent knowledge level on Juju Charms?
[08:05] <agent_white> !ask | iBurley
[08:05] <iBurley> Fair enough.
[08:05] <portablejim_mac> Here is my log http://paste.ubuntu.com/12968469/ , Why is my system full, how can I find what is taking up space and fix it?
[08:05] <VergilPrime> erm.... open with run software artois?
[08:07] <artois> VergilPrime: you could open it with a terminal if you wanted, sure
[08:07] <iBurley> I have an idea for livestreamers, where I could make a turnkey solution to dual-PC streaming without the headache. The plan would be to make a Juju Charm that would basically spin up an RTMP server with NGINX. Then the primary PC would run a capture utility, send the data to the second machine over the network, and the second PC (with the Juju setup) would encode using ffmpeg and then use the RTMP/NGINX setup to upload the stream to Twitch. Is
[08:07] <iBurley> that possible?
[08:07] <iBurley> Yeah...One line wasn't really an option, I was asking to ask a question to hopefully break off into a private chat.
[08:08] <VergilPrime> I can't find terminal in the list. I tried "run software" and it seems to have made nothing happen. I hope it's not running in the background now :x
[08:08] <artois> iBurley: everything is possible in software
[08:09] <iBurley> artois, right, but is a Juju Charm the right method for said software?
[08:09] <iBurley> Can they do that?
[08:09] <artois> VergilPrime: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138908/how-to-execute-a-script-just-by-double-clicking-like-exe-files-in-windows
[08:09] <artois> via: https://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20double%20click%20shell%20scripts
[08:10] <jneal> hey guys can i get some assistance?
[08:12] <artois> probably
[08:12] <agent_white> !ask | jneal
[08:14] <jneal> Im on a Dual booted Macbook Pro 2010.  The driver needed for the wireless card is BCM4322,  on start up my macbook pro has no wireless.  However, If i close the lid, let the laptop go into hibernate, and reopen the lid I am connected to my home network.  It seems something is prohibiting my driver from working on start up.  any ideas?
[08:15] <VergilPrime> artois, I had found that page too but there's a bunch of answers and none of them appear to be working
[08:16] <iBurley> jneal, does some sort of software run for the driver?
[08:17] <jneal> iBurley, not that im aware of.  Im new to linux.
[08:17] <jneal> iBurleym is there a way for me to find that information for you via cmd?
[08:18] <VergilPrime> I might have it
[08:18] <iBurley> jneal, I'm honestly not sure, I was hoping there would just be some window open for a proprietary network manager that was obvious. Then you could just add that program to your startup applications.
[08:18] <artois> VergilPrime: appear... by having not tried any at all? =)
[08:19] <jeffrey_f> unignore help
[08:19] <iBurley> jneal, never heard of such an issue though, hopefully somebody else knows. I was just popping in for advice myseld.
[08:20] <RepThis1> I had an intrusion where it looks like they came in and gcc compiled something then linked it to the /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/security . And i think overwrote or removed something in this directory. Any suggestions or material on how to fix this?
[08:20] <hateball> Restore the machine from backup
[08:20] <bekks> RepThis1: BAckup and completely reinstall your system.
[08:21] <RepThis1> not sure if i have to somehow recompile that missing file and replace the malicious one, or if i can can it from the repositories? backups and reinstalls will never be an option.
[08:21] <bekks> Restoring from backup may lead to restoring an earlier state of the intrusion, so reinstall.
[08:21] <RepThis1> i can see the malicious code, its just i have no idea how to fix it haha.
[08:22] <jneal> any ideas for my driver issue fellas?
[08:22] <bekks> RepThis1: Backups and reinstalls are the ONLY option for infected/intruded machines.
[08:22] <VergilPrime> I have tried a few things but I have no idea what nautilus is, dconf-editor doesn't appear on my system, I can't find any noexec flag in /ect/fstab
[08:23] <wileee> VergilPrime, nautilus is your home, dconf has to be installed
[08:23] <VergilPrime> Nothing comes up when I enter dconf-editor into my search button.
[08:23] <VergilPrime> Is the search button Nautilus?
[08:24] <auronandace> VergilPrime: nautilus is the file manager
[08:24] <wileee> what search button VergilPrime many in the OS
[08:24] <RepThis1> are there any irc channels i can join to have someone evaluate a small piece of code from a pam module, i have a history of the commands ran.
[08:24] <Ben64> RepThis1: format and reinstall
[08:25] <auronandace> VergilPrime: if you are running unity (default in ubuntu) then the search in the top left is called the dash
[08:25] <RepThis1> not an option, at all. if its unsovlabe then its a question of mitigation.
[08:25] <jneal> Im on a Dual booted Macbook Pro 2010.  The driver needed for the wireless card is BCM4322,  on start up my macbook pro has no wireless.  However, If i close the lid, let the laptop go into hibernate, and reopen the lid I am connected to my home network.  It seems something is prohibiting my driver from working on start up.  any ideas?
[08:25] <bekks> RepThis1: It is your ONLY option.
[08:25] <Ben64> RepThis1: its the only option
[08:25] <VergilPrime> Okay cool. So dconf-editor doesn't seem to be in my dash.
[08:25] <RepThis1> lol no
[08:25] <bekks> RepThis1: If you know better: fix it.
[08:26] <Ben64> lol yes. you can't trust anything on the system anymore
[08:26] <RepThis1> Ben64:  thats not a problem
[08:26] <agent_white> RepThis1: When a system of yours has been compromised... burn it down, and rebuild. Not doing so is ill-advised.
[08:26] <Ben64> ok then ignore it
[08:26] <wileee> VergilPrime, dconf-editor needs to be installed look in the ubuntu software center
[08:26] <RepThis1> agent_white: its not some production server its for learning purposes.
[08:27] <Ben64> in the future, if you don't want support don't join a support channel
[08:27] <agent_white> RepThis1: Ah. Well, for learning purposes, in reality, you'd burn it, and recreate ;)
[08:27] <Ben64> learn how to do things the right way
[08:27] <agent_white> ^
[08:27] <RepThis1> agent_white: i need to understand this attack vector.
[08:27] <Ben64> no no its ok officer, i'm driving drunk as a test
[08:27] <bekks> RepThis1: lesson one: burn it down, lesson two: rebuild it.
[08:27] <VergilPrime> It's not in installed software but I can install it.
[08:28] <agent_white> RepThis1: Do you believe that to be the only compromised piece of software?
[08:28] <agent_white> RepThis1: Finding its 'attack vector' wouldn't be to immediately fix it. But find why it targeted that.
[08:28] <wileee> VergilPrime, yeah, you're learning, keep going. ;)
[08:29] <RepThis1> agent_white: i think its the most critical one so far, the logs have been removed at some point however they did not remove the viminfo and nano logs so id say this is prob the biggest problem.
[08:29] <farciarz84> hi, does anyone know how the /etc/exports line should look like if I want to expose nfs space with RWX permissions for ALL users?
[08:30] <agent_white> RepThis1: http://serverfault.com/questions/218005/how-do-i-deal-with-a-compromised-server -- read this.
[08:30] <farciarz84> currently /mnt/media *(rw,sync,no_subtree_check) doesn't work, except for root in the client.
[08:30] <agent_white> RepThis1: Just keep in mind... that system, if truely compromised, is no longer 'fixable'. It has been compromised. It is not yours. Find out how. Then burn it. :)
[08:31] <bekks> RepThis1: neither nano nor vim write logs. In best case, the have a backup of the untampered filed. But no logs.
[08:31] <RepThis1> agent_white: there obession is with pam it seems, cause two other files in /etc/pam.d/ have been configured with a line of code
[08:31] <agent_white> RepThis1: http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/7443/how-do-you-know-your-server-has-been-compromised
[08:31] <RepThis1> bekks: what are you talking about, it tells me which files they edited and at what line.
[08:31] <VergilPrime> Uh oh.
[08:31] <agent_white> RepThis1: That might not be obsession, but one of many things.
[08:32] <RepThis1> agent_white: their focus is only a few attacks not a massive amount.
[08:32] <RepThis1> agent_white: at the most.
[08:32] <Ben64> RepThis1: or thats what they want you to see
[08:32] <agent_white> RepThis1: What he means is... not everything keeps logs. And things that do, won't tell you what else to check. For instance, does PAM show you if a DB has been queried?
[08:32] <VergilPrime> !/bin/bash not found. did I break something again?
[08:32] <RepThis1> Ben64: those are the rules.
[08:32] <Ben64> you really need to format and reinstall, there is no other way
[08:33] <agent_white> Ben64: It sounds like it's for learning... I'm assuming he'll wipe this one anyways.
[08:33] <agent_white> Well, I would hope, at least.
[08:33] <Ben64> it doesn't matter if its for learning, its pointless to try to fix it
[08:34] <Ben64> learn that you can't fix a compromised system
[08:34] <agent_white> Of course. But for learning, the purpose would be to find out how.
[08:34] <agent_white> (Though, I know, he's trying to fix it... which is not a good idea.)
[08:34] <Ben64> finding out how is always good, but i see him trying to fix it
[08:34] <VergilPrime> Potentially how to stop it from happening again.
[08:34] <agent_white> Find out how. Then burn it.
[08:35] <agent_white> Ben64: Yeah me too...
[08:35] <agent_white> RepThis1: Do you understand what many have been saying here?
[08:35] <Ben64> most likely - weak root password
[08:35] <RepThis1> agent_white: yes its pretty obvious, but this is different.
[08:36] <agent_white> RepThis1: Just... don't rely on PAM.
[08:36] <agent_white> And. Don't try to fix.
[08:36] <RepThis1> agent_white: is that even an option?
[08:37] <agent_white> RepThis1: To fix?... Nope. As we've been saying since you've asked.
[08:42] <nunna> Hi, I need help?
[08:42] <cfhowlett> !ask | nunna
[08:43] <nunna> Sorry.. :) Okay, I got the problem with my Ubuntu dekstop..
[08:44] <RepThis1> oh wow, i thought this pam thing would be more complex. Before when i tried to remove the stuff it would lock me out of root but i guess changing the password first was required.
[08:45] <nunna> Everytime I played music, the cpu take so much cpu resources..
[08:45] <VergilPrime> Rep
[08:45] <VergilPrime> Don't type any passwords into your compromised system unless they are throwaway passwords RepThis1
[08:45] <hateball> nunna: What application are you using, and what sort of file?
[08:45] <RepThis1> there was still another odd behavior where after changing the password you could still use the old one but now that seems to have relapsed.
[08:46] <nunna> I am on Ubuntu 15.10, fresh install, Clementine..
[08:49] <VergilPrime> What's it mean when Ubuntu Software Center turns grey 2/3 through installing Wine?
[08:49] <Seveas> that the wine has gone sour
[08:50] <Seveas> but more likely that it's taking a while to process the wine package and that the software center will un-gray again in a bit
[08:50] <VergilPrime> Is grey like (not responding) in windows?
[08:51] <VergilPrime> Okay so it's not necessarily failed yet just taking it's time.
[08:56] <lonix> How do you guys create a new user with ssh keys
[08:56] <lonix> ?
[08:56] <lonix> Anyone made a script or something. or just manual ?
[08:58] <korg> hi everyone:)
[08:58] <korg> anybody here?
[08:59] <korg> i'm bored(
[08:59] <korg> hi
[09:00] <twocarlo> just ask :korg
[09:04] <RepThis1> damn, debsums is legit. why doesnt ubuntu have a handbook like debian does, fml.
[09:06] <agent_white> lonix: Each process needs to be done separately... so yeah, you could make a script if you want.
[09:07] <lonix> if there is not a defacto script everyone is useing ill just make my own then :)
[09:07] <agent_white> lonix: There is no de-facto script. :) So yeah, good idea to make one.
[09:43] <curiousx> !info dmenu
[09:43] <curiousx> !info pdmenu
[09:45] <AlexPortable> When will Ubuntu implement multitouch touchpad gestures?
[09:45] <cfhowlett> "when it's done ..."
[09:46] <AlexPortable> Then why does everyone says ubuntu is a replacement for windows?
[09:47] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, you should ask "everyone" that question.  for specific ubuntu support, ask here.  for non-technical ubuntu support, ask #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:48] <curiousx> AlexPortable: gnome-shell has advanced on that, idk how good is at gestures, but i saw a video presentation that said something related to touch gestures
[09:49] <Lihis> Does anyone know is it possible to mount a specific Google Drive folder under ubuntu?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> Lihis, https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=A0LEVvgk9y1W3QgA5GsnnIlQ;_ylc=X1MDMTM1MTE5NTY4NwRfcgMyBGZyA3locy1tb3ppbGxhLTAwMQRncHJpZANSV2NpOFlKZFRyNmt2SjVLSTFtS3FBBG5fcnNsdAMwBG5fc3VnZwMxBG9yaWdpbgNzZWFyY2gueWFob28uY29tBHBvcwMwBHBxc3RyAwRwcXN0cmwDBHFzdHJsAzI1BHF1ZXJ5A2dvb2dsZSBkcml2ZSB1YnVudHUgbW91bnQEdF9zdG1wAzE0NDU4NTI5NzA-?p=google+drive+ubuntu+mount&fr2=sb-top-search&hspart=mozilla&hsimp=yhs-001
[09:50] <Big_Bob> dat link
[09:50] <daminimal> AlexPortable: multitouch trackpad gestures is probably mostly nice-to-have but not a nececcity for most people, thus people.
[09:50] <daminimal> AlexPortable: Thus people (developers) have left it out from priorities.
[09:50] <AlexPortable> oh oky
[09:50] <AlexPortable> okay*
[09:51] <Lihis> cfhowlett: Thanks, but how to mount specific directory from Drive?
[09:51] <AlexPortable> curiousx: gnome-shell is that like gnome 2?
[09:51] <cfhowlett> Lihis, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-mount-google-drive-in-ubuntu-linux-using-google-drive-ocamlfuse.html
[09:53] <curiousx> AlexPortable: not exactly, take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu0VSKvfNEI
[09:54] <AlexPortable> oh thats gnome 3
[09:55] <loa> can somebody explain one thing i installed intel video driver part for xorg... but when i load in, i see that something create xorg config where nvidia mentioned again. can somebody explain me who?
[09:55] <loa> why i even need configuration file today?
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> loa: optimus card?
[09:56] <loa> no, i have 660 gtx, and intel proccessor
[09:56] <loa> it is PC
[09:57] <loa> lotuspsychje, now i created empty xorg.conf in folder /etc/X11 and set immutabale flag.
[09:57] <loa> but it is very dirty solution.
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> loa: you need to install nvidia drivers for your gtx
[09:57] <curiousx> AlexPortable: yup
[09:57] <Lihis> cfhowlett: Nope, with -label I can add multiple accounts but with it I cannot specificy the directory which should be mounted from the Drive. I assume it is not supported then :/
[09:57] <loa> lotuspsychje, i don't want them now at all.
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> loa: wich drivers showup your additional drivers?
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> loa: why?
[09:57] <curiousx> !info suckless-tools
[09:57] <cfhowlett> Lihis, not natively it seems.  sorry.
[09:57] <dupingping> popey, hi
[09:58] <loa> lotuspsychje, i want passthrough to virtual machine my videocard.
[09:58]  * cfhowlett learned that there is an official package named "suckless-tools" ...
[09:58] <johnny_linux> tothless will be next
[09:58] <Lihis> cfhowlett: Thanks for help anyway :)
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> loa: if not using your gtx, why not take the card out?
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> loa: a system gets confused if your not gonna use inserted hardware
[09:59] <loa> lotuspsychje, actually i did this, i deleted nvidia driver and blacklisted nouveau
[09:59] <loa> but somebody in my system don't think so.
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> johnny_linux: join us back at discuss :p
[10:00] <loa> lotuspsychje, it create such file http://pastebin.com/QQE4HmMp
[10:01] <loa> and i end with error about strange screen "nvidia"
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> loa: im not sure i understand your end goal mate sorry
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> loa: you want a virtual machine use your intel?
[10:02] <loa> lotuspsychje, i will show you.
[10:03] <loa> lotuspsychje, https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Multiheaded-NVIDIA-Gaming-using-Ubuntu-14-04-KVM-585/
[10:03] <loa> lotuspsychje, i want intel in my host os (ubuntu), gtx want give to guest.
[10:04] <loa> actually all is working, but i have problem with xorg now and configuration which is not valid.
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> loa: not sure how thats done sorry, maybe the #kvm guys know or #vbox?
[10:06] <loa> lotuspsychje, i gave you that article, because you asked why i want my xorg to sit on intel video card.
[10:07] <loa> i have no problem with kvm, i only have problem with xorg or somebody creating wrong xorg.conf
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> loa: did you do what the article says, quiet splash intel line?
[10:09] <hansz> My nautilus crashed, and I can't run it anymore. I know that if I'll restart I'll be able to run it again. However, I'm trying to figure out the cause. Any idea what I should look for?
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> hansz: any errors while launching it from terminal?
[10:09] <hansz> running nautilus from command line simply hangs, doing nothing, using no CPU
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> hansz: how about gksudo nautilus?
[10:10] <hansz> gksudo is not installed here. but sudo nautilus works.
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> hansz: might be a user problem then, try create another user and start terminal from there
[10:11] <hansz> nautilus -q stop quietly with "GLib-CRITICAL **: Source ID 313 was not found when attempting to remove it
[10:20] <Joy> i've tried to google this, but found nothing concrete - how do i make sure that an upstart job runs before runlevel 2 (before a specific init script)?
[10:20] <Joy> there's a "start on runlevel 2", but i want "start before runlevel 2"
[10:20] <Joy> i'm trying to mount a filesystem
[10:21] <Joy> and doing "start on filesystem" isn't good enough, because apparently runlevel 2 starts in parallel and races
[10:21] <bindi> Joy: why wont you add to /etc/fstab?
[10:21] <Joy> bindi: i need to assemble RAID10
[10:21] <Joy> in this case basically a RAID0 composed of two RAID1s which do get autoassembled
[10:22] <bindi> Joy: mdadm.conf?
[10:22] <Joy> bindi: doesn't work on Ubuntu 12 LTS apparently.
[10:22] <bindi> Joy: or what are you using?
[10:23] <Joy> the underlying  RAID1s get assembled via initramfs
[10:23] <Joy> the one on top - nothing
[10:23] <bindi> just install zfsonlinux :P
[10:24] <rom-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12969011/
[10:24] <capsicum1> hi playing around with lxd containers in 15.10. Unfortuntely, unable to setup a bridge network for a countainer. I found a guide under debian, but the files for the config files werent in the expected directories.
[10:26] <rom-> ANY help:           http://paste.ubuntu.com/12969011/
[10:27] <Joy> ahh, i think i see the problem, i need to use the mounting(7) event
[10:28] <rom-> ANY help:           http://paste.ubuntu.com/12969011/
[10:29] <auronandace> rom-: cat /etc/issue
[10:30] <rom-> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[10:31] <auronandace> rom-: are you using a PPA?
[10:33] <rom-> I added several PPAs.. few days ago though until today when I do sudo apt-get update ==> I get several errors
[10:34] <rom-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12969054/
[10:39] <rom-> auronandace:  I added several PPAs.. few days ago though until today when I do sudo apt-get update ==> I get several errors
[10:39] <rom-> auronandace:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12969054/
[10:42] <rom-> CAN ANYONE help PLEASE:           http://paste.ubuntu.com/12969011/
[10:42] <rom-> CAN ANYONE help PLEASE:           http://paste.ubuntu.com/12969011/
[10:44] <baizon> rom-: well the php ppa is broken
[10:45] <baizon> rom-: remove it and everything will work fine again
[10:45] <Crysp> yeap just redo it
[10:45] <Big_Bob> rom:  spaming doesn't make it better to get help
[10:46] <Crysp> and please dont ping pong. Explain your question in one go.
[10:47] <rom-> which one do I remove?
[10:49] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:52] <Big_Bob> rom-: the one you've added?!
[10:55] <rom-> you mean I should remove this right?   http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty Release
[11:00] <excalibr> Anyone familiar with doing lvm snapshot on rootfs vol?
[11:01] <excalibr> Do I need to concern about some module for initramfs before doing the snapshot?
[11:04] <UniFreak> I set a shortcut(super+delete) to turn off screen(xset dpms force off), but it sometime(once out of three) only flashed, then go back to normal status automatically
[11:04] <UniFreak> any idea why this happen?
[11:05] <capsicum1> anyone familiar with lxc profile
[11:06] <Ben64> UniFreak: because you pressed a key
[11:09] <bobdobbs> hi all. I've just updated from 12.04 to 14.04.  I've been running two monitors with an nvidia card. My OS upgrade went smoothly. However, my second monitor is blank.
[11:09] <bobdobbs> If I move my mouse around, I can see a mouse pointer enter the screen of the second monitor.
[11:09] <bobdobbs> So, ubuntu knows that the monitor is there. It just doesn't furnish it with anything.
[11:10] <Ben64> can you drag a window there
[11:10] <bobdobbs> no
[11:10] <Ben64> did you configure it using nvidia-settings
[11:10] <UniFreak> I added `sleep 3;` as here(http://askubuntu.com/questions/253818/manually-turn-off-monitor/253821#253821) suggested
[11:10] <ycon_> Hi all, how do I update uwsgi on my server (14.04)? I'm on 1.9 x, and I want to be on the latest (2.?)
[11:10] <UniFreak> but the shortcut then no longer worked
[11:11] <bobdobbs> Ben64: I haven't touched any config since I rebooted into 14.04 for the first time. which was about 15 minutes ago.
[11:11] <Ben64> UniFreak: you need to make a script and have the shortcut run the script
[11:11] <Ben64> bobdobbs: then nvidia-settings should be your first stop
[11:12] <bobdobbs> Ben64: cool. looking at it now
[11:12] <excalibr> UniFreak, on terminal it works?
[11:12] <excalibr> sleep 3 && xset ...
[11:13] <jb-> s
[11:14] <UniFreak> excalibr: terminal work
[11:14] <UniFreak> both && and ;
[11:14] <UniFreak> but not when I set it as shortcut
[11:14] <Ben64> UniFreak: i already told you the solution
[11:15] <jb-> s
[11:15] <UniFreak> Ben64, yes, guess that the way to go
[11:15] <excalibr> yea what Ben64 told you
[11:15] <UniFreak> thank you
[11:15] <excalibr> bind the key to run the script instead
[11:15] <bobdobbs> Ben64: the config in nvidia-settings looks good. the gui picks up two devices. xinerama is not enabled. (which is fine)
[11:16] <bobdobbs> I guess the next step is to figure out how to get gnome doing something with the second screen
[11:16] <UniFreak> Ben64: and,where is the conventional dir to put such script?
[11:17] <Ben64> anywhere you like. could be ~/ could be ~/bin/
[11:17] <Ben64> bobdobbs: try changing stuff a bit, and hit apply
[11:18] <bobdobbs> cool. I'm gonna back up my existing X config first
[11:19] <Ben64> you shouldn't have one
[11:19] <bobdobbs> no?
[11:19] <Ben64> if you do, that might be causing a problem
[11:19] <bobdobbs> why shouldn't I have one?
[11:19] <Ben64> hasn't been needed for years
[11:19] <Ben64> ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[11:19] <hateball> Ben64: with nvidia, to achieve certain settings you need it tho
[11:19] <Ben64> see, i don't have one, things are working great
[11:19] <bobdobbs> huh
[11:20] <bobdobbs> yeah, I've got one
[11:20] <bobdobbs> I had no idea that xorg.conf hasn't been needed in years
[11:20] <bobdobbs> I become an expert in X about once every five years. ie, after something breaks.
[11:20] <bobdobbs> then I forget it all again
[11:20] <Ben64> since at least 10.10
[11:21] <bobdobbs> I am but a dog on the internet. I have no idea what I'm doing.
[11:21] <Ben64> so i'd say rename it or something, in case everything explodes you can restore it, and reboot (or restart x)
[11:22] <bobdobbs> k
[11:24] <bobdobbs> I'm gonna be another few minutes. when I go to save the nvidia settings, the gui gives me a warning, advising me agaisnt using absolute positioning for the second screen
[11:24] <bobdobbs> so I'm gonna figure out where that is set, and turn it off
[11:24] <Ben64> try without a config at all
[11:24] <Harm133> Hey guys, I'm having a bit of a struggle
[11:24] <bobdobbs> the warning said that this could result in a display not working
[11:25] <bobdobbs> Ben64: how would I do that?
[11:25] <Ben64> by renaming or deleting the xorg.conf and restarting...
[11:25] <bobdobbs> Ben64: would I just delete the xorg.conf?
[11:25] <bobdobbs> ah, ok
[11:25] <Harm133> I need to update my kernel but my /boot is full, how can I safely clear space ( by deleting files ) within the partiton? Or is it a better solution to try and expand the parititon?
[11:25] <bobdobbs> k. restarting X. back soon...
[11:26] <hateball> Harm133: remove old/unneeded kernels
[11:26] <Peanut> Hi - I have a minimal install on my desktop, now I would like to add a desktop environment (Gnome or Unity), is there a simple package that I can install that gets me the gnome desktop? Which desktops do we have for Wily (15.10) ?
[11:27] <Harm133> hateball: Is that safe, as in if I reboot it won't crash :)?
[11:27] <baizon> Peanut: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop/xubuntu-desktop/kubuntu-desktop et.c
[11:27] <Peanut> baizon: thanks!
[11:28] <hateball> Harm133: as long as you dont remove the working kernel you're booted on now
[11:28] <baizon> Peanut: for ubuntu gnome it is: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[11:28] <Peanut> baizon: that's the one I'd like to try, after several years of Unity.
[11:29] <Harm133> hateball: Thank you very much :), I'll try and do that
[11:29] <hateball> Harm133: if you're not fully out of diskspace you can "sudo apt-get install bikeshed && sudo purge-old-kernels"
[11:30] <Peanut> Only 1279 packages to install, here we go.
[11:33] <Crysp> Could someone explain why when linux is force-shutdown (by power), nothing appears change (like the system does not get corrupted) but windows shows an error message that your system has not shutdown properly. Does this affect the linux system internally in any way, or is it all fine?
[11:34] <Ben64> it can damage filesystems
[11:39] <ratrace> Crysp: because your filesystem is probably fixing all that silently
[11:40] <bobdobbs> Ben64: hey ben! I've got use of two monitors now!
[11:40] <Ben64> :D
[11:41] <bobdobbs> \o/
[11:41] <bobdobbs> it's a single x display though. I used to have two. I'm trying to decide if I want to stick with one.
[11:42] <bobdobbs> also trying to decide if I want to emulate classic gnome
[11:43] <amitd26> hi
[11:44] <bobdobbs> Ben64: I feel a little nervous, not seeing where all my minimised browser windows are
[11:45] <bobdobbs> but then again, having a single X display without fancy compiz extensions could save some memory
[11:45] <bobdobbs> then again, I have a good amount of memory
[11:45] <Ben64> why wouldn't you see where they are
[11:46] <bobdobbs> on the new-fangled layout, I just can't
[11:46] <Ben64> oh
[11:46] <Ben64> well you don't have to use unity :)
[11:46] <bobdobbs> I know they are somewhere. but I have no way of accessing them.
[11:46] <bobdobbs> I thought I was using unity. maybe I'm not.
[11:46] <bobdobbs> If I'm not using unity, what am I using?
[11:47] <Ben64> depends what it looks like
[11:47] <Ben64> unity has a side bar, the menu bars kind of merge into the top bar
[11:47] <hateball> You could be using the most glorious KDE Plasma, but then you'd by default have a panel to view minimized applications
[11:47] <bobdobbs> ok
[11:47] <bobdobbs> I don't think it's plasma. but I could be wrong. this doesn't look like what I remember KDE looking like.
[11:48] <bobdobbs> I see a panel at the top of my leftmost screen
[11:48] <bobdobbs> no panel of any kind on my rightmost screen
[11:48] <EriC^^> bobdobbs: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[11:48] <bobdobbs> terminal returns: GNOME
[11:49] <EriC^^> ok, so you're using gnome
[11:49] <bobdobbs> cool. a familiar thing.
[11:49] <bobdobbs> not the gnome of my childhood though
[11:49] <EriC^^> it's probably gnome 3
[11:50] <EriC^^> mate is a fork of gnome 2
[11:51] <bobdobbs> is it possible to have a gnome panel on my rightmost screen? do I need a second X display for that?
[11:51] <EriC^^> you have 2 screens?
[11:52] <EriC^^> maybe, in unity you can put the launcher on both screens
[11:52] <EriC^^> check settings > display maybe
[11:52] <bobdobbs> yes, I have to physical monitors
[11:53] <bobdobbs> EriC^^: I don't see an option under 'Displays' to attach a seperate instance of X to either screen
[11:54] <bobdobbs> oh wait
[11:55] <EriC^^> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1392443
[11:55] <bobdobbs> such a setting might be available under nvidia-settinngs. checking...
[11:55] <EriC^^> i think you can have 2 panels without 2 x sessions too though
[11:57] <bobdobbs> oh hey. it looks like the settings I want are actually in nvidia-settings. if I read the gui right.
[11:57] <bobdobbs> ok. reconfig'd.
[11:57] <hateball> if you're using the proprietary driver you need to use nvidia-settings
[11:57] <bobdobbs> hateball: yup. that's what I'm using.
[11:57] <bobdobbs> I think I might have it.
[11:57] <bobdobbs> here goes nothing...
[12:00] <heber> hi shreding
[12:09] <bobdobbs> Ben64: hi again.
[12:09] <Ben64> hi
[12:09] <p4trix> How can I set up a shortcut for my programs? Like when I press CTRL + T it opens the terminal?
[12:09] <bobdobbs> I'm back to where I was before: no access to application on the rightmost screen. just a x-style mouse indicator
[12:09] <bobdobbs> I've got the classic gnome look back though. so I've got a panel at least
[12:10] <JessicaJung_> p4trix: you may use gconf or unity-tweak-tools if unity and gnome-tweak-tools if gnome
[12:10] <Ben64> bobdobbs: trying to make two sessions again?
[12:10] <JessicaJung_> I don't remember how those packages named, bbut they're stylized like that
[12:10] <bobdobbs> Ben64: ideally, yes
[12:10] <Ben64> why?
[12:10] <p4trix> JessicaJung_, thx
[12:11] <bobdobbs> Ben64: looks like gnome can only see one of my displays.
[12:11] <bobdobbs> if I look at the 'displays' settings, gnome only gives me options for one
[12:12] <ztane> anyone have success with skype on wily...?
[12:12] <p4trix> is Ubuntu 14 LTE Gnome or KDE by default?
[12:12] <ztane> seems that the qt libs are veeeeery buggy
[12:12] <Ben64> p4trix: depends if you unstalled ubuntu-gnome or kubuntu
[12:12] <cfhowlett> p4trix, LTE?  you mean LTS??
[12:12] <p4trix> yes, LTS
[12:12] <p4trix> Sorry
[12:13] <p4trix> I dont know, I just downloaded the ISO and installed it with an USB
[12:13] <p4trix> I didnt choose KDE or GNome
[12:13] <Ben64> which iso
[12:13] <cfhowlett> p4trix, more than likely, you have unity
[12:13] <loa> what i can check if i have locale problems in my ttys?
[12:13] <p4trix> If you go to ubuntu.com
[12:13] <loa> when i use setupcon all become normal.
[12:13] <p4trix> ./downloads
[12:13] <Ben64> so unity
[12:13] <JessicaJung_> hey guys, what libraries do you require to run cgminer?
[12:13] <p4trix> A ok. Thx
[12:14]  * p4trix searches about unity
[12:14] <bazhang> try #eligius for that JessicaJung_
[12:15] <JessicaJung_> oh thanks
[12:15] <JessicaJung_> my only concern cgminer requires a batch-like file for bash
[12:15] <bekks> JessicaJung_: thats called a shell script.
[12:16] <JessicaJung_> bekks: the .bashrc format?
[12:16] <bekks> JessicaJung_: .bashrc is a configuration file for the bash shell.
[12:16] <JessicaJung_> bekks: oh right, I forgot
[12:17] <JessicaJung_> bekks: I don't remember what's the file extension abbv. for that
[12:17] <Ben64> linux doesn't need extensions
[12:18] <JessicaJung_> Ben64: it's actually the term that file uses for example myfile.conf .conf if the file extension format which stands as UNIX configuration file
[12:19] <Ben64> file extensions really don't matter in linux at all
[12:19] <Mathisen> quick question: is it the dvd player or disk that forces region check ?
[12:20] <JessicaJung_> Mathiesen: I don't remember a Linux distro having region check, and it's 2015 already
[12:20] <Ben64> Mathisen: both
[12:21]  * JessicaJung_ checks the Ubuntu machine with a DVD player to see if she can replicate Mathisen's question
[12:23] <JessicaJung_> Mathisent: this distro doesn't  Region check, what's your version so I can investigate
[12:23] <Ben64> its a hardware thing
[12:24] <JessicaJung_> Ben64: it depends on the system you run right?
[12:24] <Ben64> uh... no its a hardware thing
[12:24] <JessicaJung_> Ben64: region locks shouldn't exist in 21st century
[12:24] <Ben64> dvds still exist
[12:25] <bazhang> JessicaJung_, lets get back on topic
[12:25] <JessicaJung_> Ben64: mostt of them doesn't have Region locks so I was wondering how did he had a region lock?
[12:25] <bekks> JessicaJung_: dvds implement the region code, and its a hardware thing of the dvd player to actually evaluate the region code.
[12:25] <bazhang> JessicaJung_, chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[12:25] <bekks> JessicaJung_: most dvd have a region code actually.
[12:25] <bazhang> JessicaJung_, what were you planning on mining with?
[12:26] <JessicaJung_> bazhang: Dogecoin on Scrypt
[12:26] <bazhang> JessicaJung_, I meant the hw
[12:26] <JessicaJung_> bahzhang: I was planning to use the miner on my machine with the LTS version
[12:28] <JessicaJung_> bazhang: it's a regular AMD rig
[12:28] <JessicaJung_> bazhang: i5 CPu, 8GB ramm, 1x R9 290X GPU
[12:29] <bazhang> JessicaJung_, you might wish to ask in #dogecoin if that will yield anything at all, the chances are extremely low, if any
[12:29] <JessicaJung_> bazhang: nope, everyone is just idling
[12:30] <JessicaJung_> bazhang: anyways thanks for the help too
[12:30] <Peanut> Is there a channel for help with the Ubuntu gnome desktop?
[12:30] <Mathisen> im just testing some things here, but i got it sorted
[12:32] <gnu-salad> JessicaJung_: There are ASIC miners for dogecoin now. They blow GPU's out of the water for $$$/Watt.
[12:32] <gnu-salad> Oh, she left. nvm
[12:32] <bazhang> he left gnu-salad
[12:33] <gnu-salad> JessicaJung_: There are ASIC miners for dogecoin now. They blow GPU's out of the water for $$$/Watt.
[12:33] <gnu-salad> JessicaJung_: Even before that, even with the best cards for it, you were spending more money on power than you were making in money.
[12:36] <Guest60453> what is the best firewall for backbox
[12:36] <silverhom> well you mean frontend?
[12:36] <bobdobbs> Ben64: look
[12:36] <JessicaJung_> gnu-salad: unfortunately, ASIC miners won't work for dogecoin mining, dogecoin uses Scrypt Algorithm as POW
[12:37] <bobdobbs> Ben64: looks like I've totally lost the second monitor. gnome just doesn't pick it up at all.
[12:37] <bobdobbs> Ben64: X can see it: I've got a mouse.
[12:37] <OerHeks> !backbox | Guest60453
[12:37] <Ben64> Guest60453: backbox isn't supported here
[12:37] <bobdobbs> actually, I wonder if another window manager will pick it up. should I try KDE or something?
[12:37] <JessicaJung_> bobdobbs: check if X11 works on multi-montor
[12:37] <Ben64> bobdobbs: yeah well... idk why you want to run two sessions
[12:38] <NicholasCage> Does anyone know a good terminal chat for windows since they cut off XMPP?
[12:38] <JessicaJung_> bobdobbs: try unity for now or KDE
[12:38] <NicholasCage> for Facebook* I mean
[12:38] <JessicaJung_> NIcholasCage: this page is for Ubuntu-related topics, please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:38] <bobdobbs> Ben64: I just got used to it. probable because with two sessions I got a seperate gnome panel on the second monitor. so I could manage all my applications
[12:39] <JessicaJung_> bobdobbs: I think there's a workaround for that
[12:39] <bobdobbs> JessicaJung_: I bet you are right.
[12:39] <JessicaJung_> bobdobbs: but I've idled with Linux for now, but it exists on the Launchpad page
[12:39] <gnu-salad> JessicaJung_: Scrypt ASIC miners are available to the public now. They've existed since at least Q3 2014.
[12:39] <Guest60453> anyone knows a good firewall for linux ?
[12:40] <baizon> Guest60453: ufs
[12:40] <bobdobbs> this is actually the reason why I held off from updating to 14.0.4. Every update comes with new display issues
[12:40] <JessicaJung_> gnu-salad:; nice to know, but I'll use a Linux machine with Hyper-V
[12:40] <baizon> Guest60453: ufw, sorry
[12:40] <Ben64> Guest60453: you're using backbox. use backbox support
[12:40] <JessicaJung_> Guest60453: try openDNS
[12:40] <Guest60453> thanks!!!
[12:41] <JessicaJung_> Ben64: did the OpenSSL MITM exploit got fixed ( the latest CVE)?
[12:41] <Ben64> you'd need to be more specific
[12:41] <JessicaJung_> Ben64: I mean the OpenSSL Man in the middle exploit
[12:42] <hateball> bobdobbs: fwiw I am on 14.04 running multiple monitors with KDE...
[12:42] <bobdobbs> hateball: I havent' run KDE for aaaages.
[12:42] <JessicaJung_> Ben64: I don't remember the CVE code but I'm afriad to use it for my site
[12:42] <Ben64> yeah i know the acronym... you're going to need to be more specific (a link to it would help)
[12:42] <bobdobbs> I'm gonna jump off channel again while I restart X
[12:43] <JessicaJung_> here, try browsing this pile of vulnerabilities: http://www.openssl.org/news/vulnerabilities.html
[12:43] <Ben64> why don't you?
[12:43] <chotaz`w> My system won't boot after I upgraded to 15.10, I believe it might be related to the new kernel, because I can boot to 3.19 just fine. How can I know what is causing this?
[12:43] <cfhowlett> chotaz`w, reboot.  choose advanced options and boot an older kernel
[12:43] <chotaz`w> cfhowlett, that works, I'm trying to figure out what makes 4.2 not work.
[12:44] <JessicaJung_> this tech site reports it properly (I guess): http://thehackernews.com/2014/06/openssl-vulnerable-to-man-in-middle.html
[12:44] <chotaz`w> cfhowlett, when I try to boot 4.2, it asks for my disk encryption key, and then it hangs after unlocking the filesystem
[12:44] <JessicaJung_> Ben64: maybe you have an Idea if it's fixed?
[12:45] <cfhowlett> chotaz`w, please direct it to tohe overall channel.  I'm afraid kernel troubleshooting is too far out of my league
[12:45] <JessicaJung_> Ben64: it's CVE-2014-0224
[12:45] <Ben64> JessicaJung_: from june 2014, yes. its fixed
[12:45] <JessicaJung_> Ben64: oh, good to know, I won't be problematic about my site now
[12:46] <chotaz`w> When I try to boot with new kernel(4.2) my system hangs after unlocking my root filesystem with no type of error/panic message whatsoever. However if I hold shift and select the older kernel(3.19) it boots just fine. How can I debug this further?
[12:47] <JessicaJung_> Since Wily's out, does that mean another point release in 4.04 right?
[12:47] <JessicaJung_> 14.04 * sorry
[12:47] <Ben64> in february, yes
[12:48] <JessicaJung_> that's a long wait, the 3rd point release has  so many bugs than the 1st point release
[12:48] <chotaz`w> cfhowlett, thanks for the time!
[12:48] <JessicaJung_> I hope it'll be in time, I like the new live patching for Linux  in version 4.0
[12:48] <cfhowlett> chotaz`w, happy2try!
[12:48] <nglpx1> chotaz`w, can you boot in recovery mode?
[12:49] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, haven't tried, can you give me 2m to come back with feedback?
[12:49] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, you mean 4.2 recovery mode?
[12:49] <nglpx1> yes
[12:56] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, there? I just managed to boot to 4.2 by booting into recovery mode then selecting "Continue normal boot" from the recovery menu.
[12:56] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, I hadnt tried recovery mode yet.
[12:56] <nglpx1> try to gai a shell
[12:57] <nglpx1> gain*
[12:57] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, Im here.
[12:58] <nglpx1> chotaz`w, gain a root shell in recovery mode
[13:06] <ngaio> on Ubuntu 15.10, is it safe to set pip3 to install to python 3.4 and not python 3.5, by doing this: python3.4 /usr/bin/pip3
[13:07] <ngaio> the first line of /usr/bin/pip3 is #!/usr/bin/python3.5 , which surprised me
[13:09] <Pici> ngaio: its probably better to call the pip module from python3.4 itself: python3.4 -m pip
[13:12] <ngaio> Pici, thanks, I'll try that!
[13:12] <pbx> nice tip Pici
[13:21] <UniFreak> I want to use arc theme, did this(http://software.opensuse.org/download.html?project=home%3AHorst3180&package=arc-theme), seems no error occur
[13:21] <UniFreak> but still, I can't see the arc-theme option in appearance
[13:22] <UniFreak> how do I know whether the theme has been installed successfully?
[13:26] <UniFreak> there did have a new theme option: Adaita
[13:26] <UniFreak> is it arc?
[13:29] <regedit> hello i need to repair this ubuntu drive http://paste.ubuntu.com/12969898/ is fsck.ext3 -f /dev/sdc5 the right command?
[13:29] <regedit> also why are those 2 partitions appear to be overlapping, the Extended and the Linux
[13:29] <cfhowlett> ext 3?  default ubuntu is ext4
[13:29] <regedit> ah ok
[13:29] <regedit> ye i think i did do ext4 during installation
[13:30] <cfhowlett> I certainly hope so.
[13:30] <EriC^^> the extended isnt overlapping, extended is like the space where you can put logical partitions
[13:30] <regedit> ah
[13:30] <nglpx1> regedit, laucnch gparted to see the exact fs type
[13:30] <regedit> nglpx1: will do, thanks
[13:31] <regedit> also it's ok to do this from another ubuntu machine "proper", in contrast to a bootable live recovery disc, right?
[13:31] <bekks> regedit: BEcause the logical partition is inside the extended.
[13:31] <bekks> regedit: which is expected :)
[13:31] <regedit> bekks: right i see
[13:35] <aarobc> why is it sometimes youtube plays back at like 2x speed and the audio is just chirps and clicks?
[13:35] <aarobc> Youtube says it's playing back at normal speed
[13:36] <aarobc> oh wait, looks like it's just chrome
[13:37] <tmsbrg> YouTube's a bit weird for me too, but only in fullscreen. Usually takes like 5 seconds to respond to my input when I try to pause it or get out of fullscreen
[13:37] <tmsbrg> my solution is to copypaste the YouTube URL in VLC and play it there. No problems
[13:37] <UniFreak> I solved my problem. I only needed to install unity tweak tool
[13:39] <Cipher45> Is there a reason to reboot an ubuntu server if it's running in openvz? I can't update the kernal myself
[13:39] <tabletgrub> Hi how to boot Ubuntu 15.10 from LiveUSB without user interaction in the grub 2 splash screen, which .cfg file i need to edit to boot the default first entry which is Tray Ubunut.Thanks.:)
[13:40] <tabletgrub> *Try Ubuntu
[13:44] <OerHeks> tabletgrub, maybe this post is any help http://askubuntu.com/questions/47522/how-to-bypass-try-it-install-screen-when-booting-from-usb-live-session-wit
[13:44] <regedit> so i'm doing a fsck.ext4, i got this - what do i do?
[13:45] <regedit> Error reading block 60325917 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read).  Ignore error<y>?
[13:45] <OerHeks> never tried such myself, i would just hit 'try' and you would need to give some answers anyway, keyboard, locale and such
[13:45] <tabletgrub> Will try OerHeks.Thanks.:D
[13:46] <nglpx1> regedit, watch at which file that block belongs
[13:46] <regedit> nglpx1: how if i may ask, and then what?
[13:46] <nglpx1> find / -inum inodenumber
[13:47] <nglpx1> (with the fs mounted)
[13:47] <regedit> nglpx1: the problematic drive is plugged in via USB, currently not mounted
[13:47] <regedit> ah
[13:48] <regedit> i'll need to stop fsck for this?
[13:48] <nglpx1> wat  the end of fsck
[13:48] <nglpx1> wait*
[13:48] <regedit> ok so for now 'y' ?
[13:48] <nglpx1> ignore it now
[13:48] <regedit> k thanks
[13:49] <regedit> nglpx1: now it's asking me Force rewrite<y>?
[13:49] <nglpx1> on that inode block?
[13:49] <regedit> i dunno.... i guess?
[13:50] <nglpx1> ignore all errors
[13:50] <regedit> but what do i tell this guy wondering whether to Force rewrite<y>?
[13:51] <regedit> i should 'n' ? <Enter> ? ^C ?
[13:53] <bekks> regedit: you could also use -y for fsck.
[13:53] <regedit> so i should 'y' that, i gather
[13:54] <nglpx1> regedit, http://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/2012-September/msg00006.html
[13:56] <regedit_> gah lost internets, and the drive apparently, so i restarted the fsck command with -y this time
[13:59] <roscoe> Hello... Had Ubuntu 10.04 LTS installed and running perfectly on my Windows XP computer, tried to upgrade and ran into trouble so I uninstalled,the installCD no longer boots up, any advice?
[13:59] <bekks> roscoe: How did you "uninstall" ubuntu?
[14:00] <OerHeks> roscoe, maybe the disc is faulty now, who can tell, 10.04 is EOL, try a newer supported version anyway
[14:00] <roscoe> using ADD / Remove on Windows Control Panel
[14:00] <jpds> roscoe: Why are you running 10.04?
[14:00] <thebwt> roscoe: the 10.04 repos are gone, so if the installer tries to pull from that, it won't work anymore.
[14:00] <thebwt> roscoe: you'll need to get a newer one that has repo's in place
[14:00] <jpds> roscoe: It end of lifed months ago: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[14:01] <ratrace> roscoe: you un/installed Ubuntu in Windows XP using "Add/Remove" in XP control panel?
[14:01] <OerHeks> "add remove' windows panel .. uh oh, wubi install ?
[14:01] <bekks> yikes.
[14:01] <thebwt> ^ yet, wubi
[14:01] <bekks> !wubi | ratrace
[14:01] <roscoe> Im new to all this, 10.04 was what I got my hands on, should I try fresh install of newer version?
[14:02] <bekks> ratrace: sorry, wrong nick :)
[14:02] <jpds> roscoe: Yes, the latest LTS is 14.04
[14:02] <ratrace> bekks: oh I didn't know it worked like that, thanks
[14:02] <bekks> !wubi | roscoe
[14:02] <regedit_> roscoe: yes, and get your  money back from the dealer who sold you 10.04
[14:02] <regedit_> :p
[14:04] <regedit_> is there any way to safely pause fsck, unplug drive, replug drive, and continue fsck?
[14:06] <swenzel> how much work would it be to find the code, apply the patch from https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61651 compile it and then replace the current driver with the new one?
[14:08] <swenzel> or would it be easier to just buy another nic?
[14:08] <roscoe> thanks everybody
[14:11] <OerHeks> swenzel, seems like that bug is solved in kernel 3.19
[14:11] <swenzel> OerHeks: I use kernel 4.2 and wol is still not available for me
[14:11] <UniFreak> I downloaded unity-tweak-tool and Arc theme, when I'm happily tweak the theme setting, suddenlly all my shortcut stop working
[14:12] <UniFreak> and the dash also the top bar disappeared
[14:13] <OerHeks> swenzel, not sure if that/any patch works on 4.2 ,  i would file a new bugreport, mention that bugreport too
[14:13] <UniFreak> what do I do now?
[14:13] <xubunto> can i run linux on a laptop that is initialized with windows 10
[14:13] <EriC^^> yes
[14:14] <xubunto> i wont have to worry about the UEFI?
[14:14] <EriC^^> it depends, might work straight away, might need to be tweaked a little
[14:14] <pbx> after instlling an additional DE (XFCE; normally i use Unity or xmonad), notifications have been taken over by XFCE's widgetry.  i don't mind the style change but the volume up/down/mute notification is entirely gone and i miss that.  how to fix?
[14:15] <xubunto> thank you EriC^^
[14:15] <sanigame> Hello
[14:15] <wileee> xubunto, This is the ubuntu channel, so be sure you know answers here are on ubuntu and not all 1000 linux OS.
[14:16] <UniFreak> also, all applications's menu bar disappeared, too
[14:16] <UniFreak> please help me
[14:16] <millerti> Can anyone help me with an NFS server problem?  I'm trying to start the NFS server, but it fails, and I find this error in the log:  mount: unknown filesystem type 'nfsd'
[14:17] <millerti> I actually, selected NFS server when I installed the OS (15.10), so all the stuff should be there, but actually, it wasn't.  I had to use apt-get to install NFS server.
[14:17] <teward> millerti: i think the filesystem needs to be nfs4, not nfsd?
[14:17] <wileee> UniFreak, Unity is a plugin in compiz, you can reset, might be what is needed, get back to where you started.
[14:18] <millerti> teward: I haven't specified a filesystem, just an exports file.
[14:18] <teward> millerti: OK, well, mount is being run at some point and its stating that the filesystem it's trying to mount is not known
[14:18] <teward> (probably when you are starting the thing)
[14:18] <millerti> I have specified a directory being exported, and it's already mounted.
[14:19] <millerti> teward: Well, this is all internal to nfs server.  There's no place I know about where I can specify something like nfs4 vs. nfsd.
[14:19] <teward> mmm
[14:20] <swenzel> why do I always have to get the hardware that doesn't just work :(
[14:20] <sanigame> How to use unity 8
[14:21] <wileee> sanigame, where?
[14:21] <baizon> sanigame: http://askubuntu.com/questions/447891/how-to-install-unity-8
[14:22] <millerti> So where am I going wrong?  I followed the NFS server instructions to the letter.
[14:22] <sanigame> baizon:Thank you varymuch.
[14:24] <millerti> Ok, so I did an apt-get update and upgrade, and I see errors about nsf-common not being configured.  Shouldn't that have been installed automatically when I installed the nfs server package?
[14:24] <EriC^^> millerti: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:24] <SlaveOfJesus> Hi
[14:25] <thecyclone> Hi. Today I am not able to see any wireless networks in my UBUNTU 14.04LTS
[14:25] <thecyclone> yesterday it was working fine
[14:25] <SlaveOfJesus> Sound is working when i type "speaker-test -c 2" but when i try to watch youtube videos i hear no sound? ANY IDEAS?
[14:25] <SlaveOfJesus> thecyclone: do you have old laptop?
[14:25] <wileee> thecyclone, wifi hardware?
[14:25] <baizon> SlaveOfJesus: check the default audio output, maybe its set to hdmi
[14:25] <thecyclone> SlaveOfJesus: Yes, it is 1 year old
[14:26] <millerti> Yeah.  The problem is that nfs-common is failing to install.  This is a fresh install of 15.10.  What should I be looking for?
[14:26] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: hmm how im not using any DE :) just installeed mini.iso and openbox + firefox :)
[14:26] <SlaveOfJesus> thecyclone: its pretty new
[14:26] <thecyclone> SlaveOfJesus: can you help plz?
[14:27] <SlaveOfJesus> thecyclone: so your pc not detecting wireless card?
[14:27] <millerti> How do I fix "Package nfs-common is not configured yet." ?
[14:27] <thecyclone> SlaveOfJesus: The PC is detecting wireless card but not showing any networks
[14:27] <SlaveOfJesus> thecyclone: how so?
[14:27] <wileee> thecyclone, that user came here for help and should not be helping you really, plenty of daily help here. answer questions by helpers
[14:27] <SlaveOfJesus> thecyclone: try estart
[14:27] <thecyclone> SlaveOfJesus: I have done restart
[14:28] <SlaveOfJesus> thecyclone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide
[14:28] <SlaveOfJesus> thats all i can help
[14:28] <baizon> !info pacmd| SlaveOfJesus
[14:28] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon:  ?
[14:28] <baizon> SlaveOfJesus: ups, sorry
[14:28] <millerti> How the heck can a completely clean install of 15.10 have completely broken nfs support, and yet I'm finding zilch googling this...
[14:29] <SlaveOfJesus> when i open alsamixer i see its unmuted and 100%
[14:29] <baizon> !man pacmd | SlaveOfJesus
[14:29] <baizon> god damn
[14:29] <baizon> sorry
[14:29] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: :D
[14:29] <baizon> SlaveOfJesus: use pacmd
[14:29] <regedit_> is it safe or a terrible idea to 1) Ctrl+Z a fsck command 2) unplug the drive 3) relocate (need to get going someplace) 4) replug the drive 5) fg the fsck command back into action?
[14:30] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: what is pacmd?
[14:30] <wileee> regedit_, stopping a fsck is a bad idea, why would you ask this?
[14:30] <baizon> SlaveOfJesus: This tool can be used to introspect or reconfigure a running PulseAudio sound server during runtime. It connects to the sound server and offers a simple live shell that can be used to enter the commands also understood in the default.pa configuration scripts.
[14:30] <SlaveOfJesus> is it accessible trough cli or gui baizon ?
[14:30] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: i dont use pulseaudio server
[14:31] <baizon> SlaveOfJesus: well then you can use alsamixer
[14:31] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: yep im using
[14:31] <wileee> regedit_, I you want to travel.
[14:31] <wileee> ah*
[14:31] <regedit_> wileee: because i reeeally need to get going, and this drive http://paste.ubuntu.com/12969898/ is up to like block 28311617...
[14:31] <regedit_> yeah
[14:32] <baizon> SlaveOfJesus: aplay -l
[14:32] <EriC^^> regedit_: i dont know about the technicalities but it sounds like a horrible idea
[14:32] <baizon> SlaveOfJesus: there you can see your devices and which is used
[14:32] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: yep
[14:32] <EriC^^> also ctrl+z doesn't stop the fsck regedit_
[14:32] <regedit_> EriC^^: I suspected so...
[14:32] <wileee> regedit_, I don't think anyone with a conscious will say do it is all, bad idea especially if no backups.
[14:33] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: everything seems fien
[14:33] <regedit_> EriC^^: oh? does it not freeze the process?
[14:33] <SlaveOfJesus> fine
[14:33] <EriC^^> regedit_: no it would continue in the background
[14:33] <thecyclone> SlaveOfJesus: tried. Not working :(
[14:33] <EriC^^> just not in the foreground of the shell i think
[14:33] <regedit_> ah
[14:33] <EriC^^> regedit_: try sleep 10, press ctrl+z, go back after 10 secs
[14:33] <wileee> EriC^^, Ah thanks I thought that was a stop, my bad regedit_  in general I think it is a bad idea to stop a fsck is all.
[14:33] <EriC^^> it'll say done
[14:33] <SlaveOfJesus> thecyclone:  why your wireless suddenly doesnt work/
[14:34] <regedit_> EriC^^: i see
[14:34] <regedit_> oh now it's saying "Running additional passes to resolve blocks claimed by more than one inode..."
[14:34] <regedit_> it seems to be finding some of those
[14:34] <regedit_> anyway, does this mean its almost done?
[14:35] <wileee> regedit_, Are you backed up?
[14:35] <regedit_> wileee: nope. But it's an Ubuntu installation i dont care for much, it would just be annoying to have to reformat all over again...
[14:35] <baizon> SlaveOfJesus: tried to set the default sound card within alsamixeR?
[14:35] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: suddenly sound started working on youtube :D i did nothing
[14:36] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: i have only one
[14:36] <wileee> regedit_, Sure, just curious is all, hope it all goes well. ;)
[14:36] <baizon> SlaveOfJesus: o lol :P
[14:36] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: mistery
[14:36] <baizon> i count it as i solved it :D
[14:36] <netiul> is it possible to replace libxml2 with version 2.9 on ubuntu precise? precise has by default 2.7, but php 7 needs libxml2 2.9
[14:36] <regedit_> wileee: np thanks
[14:36] <jpds> netiul: 12.04 doesn't even have php7.
[14:37] <netiul> jpds, i know, i'm installing nightly
[14:37] <jpds> netiul: Just go with 14.04
[14:37] <avis> how is ubuntu 15.10 ?
[14:38] <heber> it is nice
[14:38] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: and sound is gone again... :/
[14:38] <baizon> avis: fine :)
[14:38] <wileee> avis, seems alright.
[14:38] <baizon> SlaveOfJesus: install pulseaudio?
[14:38] <netiul> jpds, i want it running on server, which is running on 12.04
[14:39] <jpds> netiul: Can you upgrade or run a virtual machine?
[14:39] <netiul> jpds, on my dev machine i got php7 working though, which is 14.04
[14:39] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: hmm
[14:39] <SlaveOfJesus> baizon: i think its kernel problem
[14:40] <netiul> jpds, i really want to see how our web application is running on a real server with php7, so.. :)
[14:40] <backbox> halo
[14:40] <pat__> is this the channel for 15.10?
[14:40] <regedit_> holy fffffuuuuuuuuuu
[14:40] <wileee> pat__, yep
[14:40] <backbox> halooo
[14:40] <regedit_> has fsck gone mad
[14:40] <backbox> sudo
[14:40] <regedit_> i see lots o negative numbers zooming across the console
[14:40] <netiul> jpds, i prefer not to upgrade yet
[14:40] <regedit_> it's like hollywood
[14:41] <jpds> netiul: It takes seconds to spin up a new VM :-)
[14:41] <baizon> netiul: go with php 6? it has a ppa for precise
[14:41] <pat__> I have an x220 thinkpad with a mobile broadband sim card I just pu tin
[14:41]  * wileee hums hurray for hollywood
[14:41] <backbox> hallo kei
[14:41] <netiul> baizon,  php 6 doesnt exist
[14:41] <pat__> it's recognize in the wifi menu but I'm not sure how to select it
[14:41] <pat__> it's greyed out
[14:42] <netiul> jpds, it's not a problem to get in php7 running, except i dont get it running on the production webserver which runs 12.04
[14:42] <regedit> no srsly WTF is fsck doing spewing incrementing negative numbers to no end
[14:42] <baizon> netiul: i ment 5.6
[14:43] <antonio__> comerme la polla
[14:43] <baizon> netiul: php 7 isnt even final
[14:43] <antonio__> sois unos hijos de puta
[14:43] <netiul> baizon, well, there's a reason i want  to run php 7
[14:43] <nabn> hi. can anyone help me fix this issue? http://imgur.com/SwUxzUU  I can't start system settings lately.
[14:43] <antonio__> alguna  chica?
[14:43] <netiul> baizon, i know, and i can compile i myself
[14:43] <jayjo> is there a way to see how I installed a package a while ago? I need to duplicate a java installation on another machine and want to mimic the process
[14:44] <baizon> jayjo: take a look at .bash_history
[14:45] <heber> hi
[14:45] <heber> hi
[14:45] <tmsbrg> jayjo: Ubuntu Software Center seems to remember how you installed packaged, even if you installed with apt-get. There's probably something hidden around
[14:45] <tmsbrg> packages*
[14:45] <jayjo> I did install with apt-get
[14:46] <tmsbrg> you could check its history
[14:46] <jpds> jayjo: /var/log/apt/
[14:46] <jophish> I've just updated to 15.10 and the icons on the unity launcher jump onto the screen when they are launched or want attention, what can I do to stop this?
[14:47] <wileee> jophish, Slight animation?
[14:47] <jayjo> /var/log/apt/ seems close to what I want, but the dates are too recent
[14:47] <jophish> wileee: yeah
[14:47] <jophish> when gnome-terminal is launched for example the icon "peeks" onto the screen
[14:48] <wileee> jophish, I suspect the unity tweak tool has a tick for it if not checkput compizconfig settings manager both need installing.
[14:48] <motaka2> hello when using flash to boot, in BIOS setting which USB option should I choose?
[14:49] <wileee> motaka2, The one that boots the usb, how would we know?
[14:50] <jophish> wileee: the tweak tool had it
[14:50] <jophish> thanks!
[14:50] <wileee> motaka2, There is a per boot option on computers to do this outside the bios
[14:50] <wileee> jophish, Cool, enjoy/
[14:51] <motaka2> wileee: there USB FDD , usb ZIP, usb CDROM usb hdd,  whuch one?
[14:51] <heber> channel for java ?
[14:52] <cfhowlett> heber, #java      surprise.
[14:52] <heber> thanks cfhowlett
[14:52] <wileee> motaka2, the one that boots, what is it on, which one if at all? I never use the bios on this, you will have to try till it works maybe.
[14:53] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[14:53] <motaka2> wileee: I dont get you
[14:54] <OerHeks> motaka2, how about usb-cdrom ? if that does not work, usb-hdd ?
[14:54] <heber> cfhowlett,can't join #java
[14:54] <cfhowlett> !register | heber,
[14:55] <motaka2> OerHeks: Are you sure, my flash memory with iso ubuntu is in one of usb ports
[14:55] <wileee> motaka2, Is the bios showing a usb flash, some don't show if not seen I believe. I'm not sure what is not understood here. Look up per session boot, you can quickly try all usb's shown to see which boots. You have a strange list.with USB in front of every choice. does it really read this way?
[14:56] <OerHeks> motaka2, i have no such bios, but the choises seems logical. how did you do it last time?
[14:56] <motaka2> yes wileee
[14:56] <wileee> cool
[14:56] <Yuken> I currently use a private key in PuTTY, Windows 10, to connect to a machine. Would I be able to use this PuTTY generated key in Ubuntu, and if so, how?
[14:56] <OerHeks> i have to set usb in 2 places, bootpriority and hdd priority.
[14:56] <motaka2> OerHeks: I used a CDROM and not a usb CDROM but this time I have the iso on a flash memory
[14:59] <millerti> How do I report an Ubuntu bug?  When I click "Report a bug" in Launchpad, it just takes me to instructions, and if I select the "create account" link, it just hangs.
[15:00] <motaka2> OerHeks: wileee I do this when I turn on the pc i keep presing delete and then from a blue page called CMOS setup utility I go to advance bios feature and I set firdt boot device to one of those, am I wrong ?
[15:00] <truthseeker1990> Hey, I just installed Ubuntu with my windows 10. Different partitions. But I can't access internet on my Ubuntu even though its connected to the network. It should work fine but its not. Any idea why?
[15:01] <truthseeker1990> Am not even able to ping anything
[15:01] <OerHeks> motaka2, yes, but your biosscreen can be different from mine, but that sounds logical
[15:01] <motaka2> OerHeks: :( I am really becomin tired
[15:01] <OerHeks> try some setting, it does not wreck your pc
[15:02] <truthseeker1990> Anybody has faced the same thing as me??
[15:02] <nglpx1> truthseeker1990, are you connected to the internal lan?
[15:03] <truthseeker1990> Yes definitely. Wirelessly. But it works fine in windows and on my phone.
[15:03] <truthseeker1990> I have a realtek wireless card
[15:04] <nglpx1> truthseeker1990, what is in "sudo route -n"?
[15:04] <wileee> motaka2, You are not understanding the outside the bios boot choice, on my computer if I hit f12 I think I get a list like the bios for booting and can choose with the arrow keys the boot.
[15:04] <motaka2> wileee: I found the solution thank you
[15:04] <wileee> motaka2, the bios or this works, is all, one is faster and easier for some, cool fixed, enjoy.
[15:05] <truthseeker1990> Just 2 entries. A) desyination 0.0.0.0 gateway 192.168.0.1 ifave wlan0 B) dest. 192.168.0.0 gateway 0.0.0.0 ifave wlan0
[15:05] <motaka2> wileee: I selected use ubuntu without installing and now it is locked on a page with ubuntu in the middle and none of the down circles work
[15:05] <motaka2> is that normal?
[15:06] <wileee> truthseeker1990, Google that exact card, from it's info in lspci on the release you have, share that hardware with us RT card can be an issue is all.
[15:06] <nglpx1> truthseeker1990, can you ping 192.168.0.1?
[15:06] <TurBoss> Hi
[15:06] <millerti> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/1510137
[15:07] <wileee> motaka2, hit the esc key and see what is there.
[15:07] <truthseeker1990> Ping fails. Times out.
[15:07] <truthseeker1990> How do I use lspci??
[15:07] <truthseeker1990> So it can even ping default gateway
[15:07] <truthseeker1990> *cant
[15:07] <motaka2> wileee: nothin happens when I hit esc
[15:07] <TurBoss>  I need the libavcodec56 but there is no candidate version ?
[15:08] <TurBoss> what this means?
[15:08] <TurBoss> upgraded to 15.10 today broked some thins :D
[15:08] <wileee> motaka2, Any failure like this on my own I would check the md5sums and confirm iso and loaded usb is good probably, not really ever have issue is all, running all intel.
[15:08] <nglpx1> truthseeker1990, can you ping yourself?
[15:09] <motaka2> wileee: I really dont understand you
[15:09] <wileee> !md5sum | motaka2 okay if you don't but say what is confusing
[15:09] <truthseeker1990> Yes can ping myself. Wireless card is Realtek wireless card RTL8723BE
[15:10] <truthseeker1990> From a Google search looks like the card has some issues with Ubuntu 14.04
[15:10] <motaka2> wileee: I restarted , but I cant select any option from installer boot menu
[15:10] <wileee> motaka2, Take a look at the bots message on checking the iso and your usb for a good hash sum
[15:10] <amitd26> hi
[15:11] <motaka2> wileee: I dont have any linux right now
[15:11] <wileee> motaka2, You are not reading the message, we are done.
[15:11] <nglpx1> truthseeker1990, try follow this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/590414/wifi-problems-with-rtl8723be-in-ubuntu-14-04
[15:12] <amitd26> sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[15:12] <amitd26> sorry, typo error,keyboard problem
[15:12] <jpds> amitd26: Just blame the cat
[15:12] <amitd26> jpds: it is a keyboard problem s key sometimes misbehaves
[15:13] <wileee> motaka2, Nothing personal, I just have a limited calm help attitude, better you are helped with that in place.
[15:13] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, still there
[15:13] <chotaz`w> ?
[15:13] <Panda11> How do I change the FTP port on vsftpd?
[15:13] <nglpx1> chotaz`w, ok
[15:13] <motaka2> wileee: the pages you sent me to check the hash need a terminal. I dont have any linux to use it's terminal. I am chating with you from win vista
[15:14] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, sorry, I ahd a major connection problem, I'm still unable to normally boot into 4.2, but I'm now at a root shell via recovery
[15:14] <regedit_> so i plug in my recently-fsck-ed drive back into its machine, booting up brings me to a grub shell. Was i supposed to do anything to make sure it resumes its normal grub booting?
[15:14] <nglpx1> chotaz`w, so the issue is in loading the gui?
[15:15] <wileee> regedit_, should not change the boot in a perfect world
[15:15] <truthseeker1990> How do I got clone and I stall git when I have no internet??
[15:15] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, without using recovery mode, it just asks for my disk encryption key and then hangs after static it successfully setup the filesystem.
[15:15] <regedit_> herm... well what can i do from a grub shell to boot the present ubuntu OS?
[15:15] <regedit_> then i can maybe run update-grub or something
[15:16] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, however, if I guet to the recovery mode menu and then select "Normal boot" it carries on and actually manages to properly boot with 4.2
[15:16] <chotaz`w> *after stating
[15:16] <wileee> regedit_, I would grab supergrub and see if it boots it, however you can manually boot in
[15:17] <TurBoss>  I need the libavcodec56 but there is no candidate version ?
[15:17] <TurBoss> what can i do?
[15:17] <Guest36992> i was using ubuntu15.04, after upgrading to ubuntu15.10, it works fine after first install but when i reboot system, it fails to boot and stuck just after verdor logo
[15:17] <wileee> regedit_, A live boot might be where you will need to gather info if broken, and grub can be fixed from a chroot if needed. Try all kernels in grub as well.
[15:18] <Guest36992> same issue is coming when i tried with xubuntu. the problem seems with kernel 4.0 and above.
 how do I got clone etc if I don't have internet
[15:18] <chotaz`w> Guest36992, are you using any type of disk encryption, by any chance? I'm having the exact same problem. Also.. have you tried booting to a different kernel other than 4.2?
[15:18] <nglpx1> chotaz`w, which encryption software are you using?
[15:19] <ioria> !info libavcodec56 utopic
[15:19] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, cryptsetup (?)
[15:19] <nglpx1> truthseeker1990, what question is?
[15:19] <Guest36992> chotaz`w, yes i tried fedora 22 also. same issue was coming with this also with kernel 4 and above. when i boot in kernel 3.19, it working fine
[15:19] <wileee> regedit_, check booting from grub here, https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/776643-how-to-rescue-a-non-booting-grub-2-on-linux/
[15:19] <ioria> TurBoss, i  think is for utopic, that is  EOL
[15:20] <TurBoss> :(
[15:20] <TurBoss> thx
[15:20] <nglpx1> chotaz`w, maybe the issue is in the sequence of service called at boot in normal mode
[15:20] <truthseeker1990> The link you mentioned told me to download new drivers. But how to download without internwt
[15:20] <ioria> !info libavcodec56 vivid
[15:20] <ioria> TurBoss, no,also for vivid
[15:21] <nglpx1> truthseeker1990, but you told you are under the 4.2 kernel now..
[15:21] <TurBoss> !info libavcodec56 wily
[15:21] <ioria> TurBoss, wily,nope
[15:21] <TurBoss> hehe
[15:21] <wileee> truthseeker1990, No ethernet?
[15:22] <regedit_> wileee: ok thanks
[15:22] <chotaz`w> Guest36992, I guess we're on the same boat, I'm still trying to figure out how to solve this. Have you tried booting 4.2 in recovery mode and then selecting "Normal boot" from there? It works for me to get kernel 4.2 booting.
[15:23] <wileee> regedit_, hope all that helps, different options, hopefully just needs this fixed.
[15:23] <ioria> TurBoss, but see this https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/wily/+package/libavcodec56
[15:23] <TurBoss> ioria: what does that mean?
[15:24] <Guest36992> chotaz`w, yes i tried but nothing happed. it just stuck. when i tried in fedora i got error, "failed to find cpu0 device node erro"
[15:24] <ioria> TurBoss, no clue... seemsfor i386
[15:24] <TurBoss> :(
[15:24] <teward> ioria: TurBoss: according to the package history it looks like it was deleted in Wily because ffmpeg replaced it
[15:25] <teward> ioria: TurBoss: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libav/+bug/1503223/comments/1
[15:25] <ioria> teward, thanx
[15:25] <motaka2> hello I burned an iso on my flash now when I boot the keyboard in installer boot menu doesnt work. what should I do ?
[15:25] <nglpx1> chotaz`w, you use systemd?
[15:25] <teward> TurBoss: if a package is depending on libav packages, there will be breakage in wily, so whoever made the package needs to update the package for ffmpeg transition
[15:25] <TurBoss> i use ffmpeg for opencv stuff
[15:25] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, I use whatever comes bundled by default with ubuntu(I'm on ubuntu-mate btw)
[15:26] <teward> TurBoss: ffmpeg should have everything then, why do you need libavcodec56 ?
[15:26] <TurBoss> well thx
[15:26] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, i think that's a "yes" x)
[15:26] <ioria> TurBoss, soyou shouldn't  need   libavcodec56 ....
[15:26] <Guest36992> motaka2, try to reboot again, sometimes it fails to detect keyboard. i have also face this prob
[15:26] <motaka2> Guest36992: thx
[15:27] <TurBoss> ioria, teward thx will investigate
[15:27] <ioria> TurBoss, ok
[15:28] <Guest36992> chotaz`w, i think this prob is with 4 series kernel. can u pls tell is it possible to install ubuntu 15.10 and use 3 series kernel
[15:29] <nglpx1> chotaz`w, Systemd starts the services parallel, maybe this create the problem
[15:29] <p4trix> When I try to run Ubuntu from a pendrive, after the option settings, the screen just turns off and the computer freezes. Any Ideas? Motherboard or Hardware incompatibilities?
[15:30] <chotaz`w> Guest36992, I still have 3.19 because I upgraded from the terminal and did not do a fresh install, but I'm guessing a fresh install would come only with 4.2, but if you ahve access to a terminal and internet access you could easuily throw 3.19 in there ;)
[15:30] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, wouldnt make sense to assume that I would have the same problems with 3.19 then? since I would still be using systemd anyway?
[15:31] <Guest36992> chotaz`w, i just fresh installed ubuntu 15.04. with terminal upgrade, kernel will not be upgraded? also with kernel 3.19, ubuntu 15.10 will work fine? sorry i dont have too much idea about it.
[15:32] <chotaz`w> Guest36992, it works for me just fine booting 15.10 with 3.19 kernel
[15:33] <Guest36992> chotaz`w, thanks. can u pls tell how to upgrade to 15.10 from terminal
[15:33] <chotaz`w> do-release-upgrade
[15:34] <Guest36992> chotaz`w, thanks a lot. ubuntu guys are too supportive :)
[15:34] <nglpx1> chotaz`w, is the crypted partition the root one?
[15:37] <aarobc> so what's the status of Mir with 15.10?
[15:37] <aarobc> Can it be used?
[15:37] <baizon> aarobc: in development
[15:37] <baizon> aarobc: it can be used if youre using the open source drivers
[15:38] <aarobc> baizon: it would be fun to try it out, I'm using the open source drivers because fglrx doesn't support the 4.2 kernel yet
[15:38] <baizon> !info unity8-desktop-session-mir | aarobc
[15:39] <drmagoo> Hi, I think that I have broken my system. I was trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10 ( on my way to 15.10, I have some issues with X/my graphicscard and was hopeing that a later version might solve that) But now after a reported succesful upgrade to 14.10 the system hangs at boot. I get as far as the part where you type in the password for the encrypted lvm's I've setup up. But I cant type anything into the box and the box disapears aft
[15:40] <auronandace> drmagoo: you realise to get to 15.10 you'll have to upgrade through 15.04 as well? seriously, it is much easier just installing 15.10 fresh
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> auronandace: +1
[15:42] <BluesKaj> !EOL | drmagoo
[15:42] <BluesKaj> 14.10 is EOL
[15:43] <millerti> Is anyone ELSE here able to get nfs-server working on 15.10 ?
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> millerti: best to ask your specific issue with it, to this channel so others can help
[15:44] <millerti> lotuspsychje: Here's what I posted in the forums:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2300507
[15:44] <drmagoo> auronandace: I didnt dare to, with the way I've setup the system. got 3 mdadm raids with encrypted lvms on them. didnt know how to export that
[15:44] <drmagoo> BluesKaj: I know, but I need to go thru 14.10 to get to 15.04
[15:45] <yura> yura1542!
[15:45] <millerti> lotuspsychje: Basically, when I try to start nfs server, I get an error complaining about nfsd.
[15:45] <lotuspsychje> !nfs | millerti have to go through this?
[15:45] <kubast2> nfsd = nfs daemon
[15:45] <millerti> lotuspsychje: Oh, I did all that.
[15:46] <BluesKaj> drmagoo, think it's best you backup your data and do a fresh install
[15:47] <millerti> lotuspsychje: So what if I've started with a clean install of 15.10, and I followed the instructions, and I'm still getting errors when trying to start the service?
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> millerti: have you tryed this on LTS?
[15:47] <drmagoo> BluesKaj: I cant even get that far, even / is a raid+lvm
[15:48] <millerti> lotuspsychje: I had LTS before.  It was fine.  Upgrading to 15.10 was apparently a huge mistake.
[15:48] <chotaz`w> nglpx1, yes, the crypted partition is /root, /boot being on a separate, non-ecnrypted partition, the standard "Luks on LVM" setup I guess
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> millerti: you might file a bug perhaps? or go to stable LTS? im not the nfs expert myself sorry
[15:48] <millerti> What floors me is that Ubuntu Server would be released with broken NFS support.
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> millerti: or re-ask once in a while with your link
[15:48] <millerti> Yeah, I filed a bug report.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/1510137
[15:49] <motaka2> wileee: I checked the flash with another system and it worked finr
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> millerti: you running on 15.10 server?
[15:49] <millerti> But that'll take an eternity to get looked at.  I've had bugs sit ignored for years in Launchpad.
[15:49] <millerti> Yes, this is 15.10 server.
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> millerti: for a stable server experience we would reccomend LTS mate
[15:49] <BluesKaj> drmagoo,if you're on 14.04LTS I would wait until 16.04LTS is ready, that's what I'm doing.
[15:50] <jpds> Running LTS on the metal, make a VM for anything else
[15:50] <kubast2> or use debian stable/centos ,through lts ubuntu should also do fine.
[15:50] <millerti> The reason I decided to upgrade from the LTS is that there were just too damn many out-dated and broken packages.  For instance, it has Ruby 1.9, and gtkwave always crashes on start.
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> !latest | millerti
[15:50] <drmagoo> BluesKaj: I really appreciate the inout, but I still need to get into the system to recover something atleast.. As it sits now I cant
[15:51] <BluesKaj> there's nothing appealing or better about 15.10 than 14.04 , beleive me I've been testing 15.10 for a while and it's still buggy
[15:51] <ioria> millerti, i just  installed  and running   on  15.10 ...
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: +1
[15:51] <nglpx1> chotaz`w, try this: http://www.serverlab.ca/tutorials/linux/administration-linux/removing-systemd-from-ubuntu-15-2/
[15:52] <millerti> ioria: Were you able to get nfs server working?
[15:52] <ioria> millerti, yes
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> ioria, BluesKaj discuss we miss you @discuss
[15:52] <ioria> ok
[15:53] <drmagoo> BluesKaj: Either way, i need to recover this system before I can even start thinking about where I am going =)
[15:53] <ioria> millerti, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12970846/
[15:53] <ghostcube> millerti: you tried this? systemctl status nfs-server.service
[15:56] <baba123> hoi
[15:56] <BluesKaj> drmagoo, ok which gpu do you have ?
[15:56] <drmagoo> BluesKaj: nvidia gtx960
[15:57] <OerHeks> motaka2, on what type/brand laptop/machine is this, exactly ?
[15:57] <veronika> HEY
[15:58] <motaka2> OerHeks: It is on a machine, a computer with a case
[15:58] <poli> hello all! My upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 failed and I finished it with a apt-get -f install. When booting the new 4.2 kernel I don't get any wireless working, not only  my Atheros AR9287 but lso my Logitech mouse dongle, which is recognized in lspci but just does not work. Booting with the old 3.19 kernel works as expected. Any clues on what I could do?
[15:58] <estudiante> hola a todos
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> !es | estudiante
[15:59] <ghostcube> isnt it possible to mount the lvms from an live cd for drmagoo?
[15:59] <OerHeks> motaka2, you are very sparse with information, sometimes avoiding answers for some time now. and demand help? why do you do it like this?
[16:00] <millerti> What does this error mean and how can I fix it?   modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:578 kmod_search_moddep() could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.13.0-66-generic/modules.dep.bin'
[16:00] <kubast2> how to turn off some unity eye candy?
[16:00] <motaka2> OerHeks: Please tell me what you want exaactely maybe my english is not good
[16:00] <millerti> That may be the root of my problems.
[16:01] <estudiante> some cursed in the chat
[16:01] <kubast2> !opensssh
[16:01] <drmagoo> I've gotten into the grub-recoveryt mode. How can I mount / as rw, but at the same time not mount everything in fstab (it seems to hang when I choose this option)
[16:01] <ioria> millerti, /3.13.0-66  ?
[16:01] <millerti> ioria: Yeah.
[16:01] <kubast2> How to install openssh server on ubuntu ?
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> poli: check your logs for anything wifi related, might need a linux-firmware
[16:01] <Pici> kubast2: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[16:01] <kubast2> oh
[16:01] <millerti> ioria: Is that the wrong kernel version?
[16:01] <kubast2> -server
[16:01] <poli> kubast2: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[16:01] <ioria> millerti,  you  are 15.10 ?
[16:02] <millerti> ioria: Yes.
[16:02] <ghostcube> wrong kernel millerti
[16:02] <ioria> millerti,  oh,yeah very  wrong
[16:02] <millerti> What the hell.
[16:02] <poli> lotuspsychje: thanks
[16:02] <ghostcube> you should have any 4.x
[16:02] <millerti> Ok, so how do I get the right kernel installed?
[16:02] <ioria> millerti, 4.2.0-16-generic
[16:03] <ghostcube> strange suggestion but could you check your sources?
[16:03] <ghostcube> maybe anything went wrong
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> poli: could be that atheros firmware malfunctioning, check your current@ sudo lshw -C net work behind driver=
[16:03] <ioria> !info linux-generic
[16:03] <millerti> I think the stupid installer installed everything but messed up the boot
[16:04] <millerti> Ubuntu Server has problems installing to /dev/sdb1.  That really confused the heck out of the installer, in fact.
[16:04] <motaka2> 	wileee: I checked the flash with another system and it worked finr
[16:05] <drmagoo> I've gotten into the grub-recoveryt mode. How can I mount / as rw, but at the same time not mount everything in fstab (it seems to hang when I choose this option)
[16:05] <millerti> I wonder what else the installer screwed up.
[16:05] <ioria> brb
[16:05] <bs0d> Hello
[16:06] <millerti> The stuid thing never installed the kernel!
[16:06] <bs0d> I need to install a driver for the chipset http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201411-16196/   Where can I get one?
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> bs0d: intel wireless should be working out of the box normally, wich ubuntu version?
[16:10] <bs0d> lotuspsychje 14.04 LTS
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> bs0d: your system is installed already?
[16:10] <bs0d> wireless indeed works out of the box, HDMI output does not work :( That's why I need drivers
[16:10] <bs0d> yes, it is installed
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> bs0d: for wich device/chipset do you still need a driver?
[16:11] <poli> lotuspsychje: apt-get upgrade to the newest kernel must have re-generated the ramdisk and solved all my issues. Now it is time to try to get NVidia working. Thanks.
[16:11] <NicholasCage> clear
[16:12] <NicholasCage> Anyone who can recommend some colors for bash?
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> NicholasCage: there is a nice terminal script 'colorized' that has nice theme colors
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> NicholasCage: solarized sorry: http://ethanschoonover.com/solarized
[16:14] <millerti> Well, GOSH.  That fixed my problems!
[16:14] <jnoob22> hi... I'd like to do something like so: sudo su - && cd /myDir ... I notice when I do sudo su - or sudo -i , it simply makes me root and puts me in the /root homedir ... is there a way to chain commands here?
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> !yay | millerti tell us how you fixxed?
[16:15] <jnoob22> ideally, I'd like to create an alias for this whole thing
[16:15] <lotuspsychje> poli: wich nvidia card?
[16:15] <poli> lotuspsychje:     product: GT218M [GeForce 310M]
[16:16] <ghostcube> millerti: so it works?
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> poli: wich drivers show up your additional drivers list?
[16:16] <jnoob22> so, essentially, I'd like to become the user and then change directory and still be the user.
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> jnoob22: maybe      sudo sh -c "cd /myDir"
[16:17] <jnoob22> i think i tried something similar, ActionParsnip but not quite... let's see ...
[16:17] <drmagoo> where does lvm save its settings?
[16:17] <poli> lotuspsychje: NVIDIA legacy binary version 304.128 from nvidia-304, nvidia-304-updates, version 34.93 from nvidia-340 and nvidia-340-updates
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> poli: can you try 304 binary and reboot?
[16:18] <poli> lotuspsychje: the 304 instead of the 340?
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> poli: wich one is active right now? sudo lshw -C video?
[16:18] <jnoob22> ActionParsnip, looks like if you become root via sudo su - , it automatically takes you to $HOMEDIR
[16:19] <jnoob22> ActionParsnip, thanks very much for the help though
[16:19] <TurBoss> ioria, teward: recompiled opencv 3.0 and the need of libavcodec56 is gone thank yo
[16:19] <poli> lotuspsychje: nouveau
[16:19] <ioria> TurBoss, good
[16:19] <poli> lotuspsychje: It took me some good 30 minutes to get back to nouveu from 340-updates that was just not working after dist-upgrade
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> jnoob22: could ask in #bash
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> poli: nouveau not working correctly?
[16:20] <jnoob22> ActionParsnip, will do! thanks!
[16:21] <poli> lotuspsychje: It is, actually. I just thought I would get better <performance, latency etc.> with the NVidia driver. I am even getting my full 900p resolution, to be honest.
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> poli: if nothing bad happens, ill stick to nouveau
[16:22] <poli> lotuspsychje: I am not feeling anything wrong, really. I might just do that. Thanks again! Your help was very much appreciated!
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> poli: no sweat i dindt do much :p
[16:29] <linocisco> hi all
[16:29] <kubast2> Hey ,shouldn't apt-get accept "Y" even through Y is default option ?
[16:29] <kubast2> Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y Abort.
[16:29] <linocisco> typing in text box is always a problem as pointer is moving at random anywhere at any speed
[16:31] <artois> kubast2: if it's in caps, that's what it would suggest to me, yes
[16:31] <artois> linocisco: touchpad?
[16:32] <linocisco> artois, everybody will guess it is touchpad issue. but not really. I didn't touch
[16:32] <artois> linocisco: so... is it a touchpad?
[16:33] <linocisco> artois, nope
[16:33] <NYTimes> hello everyone how should I proceed to play RUST on ubuntu ?
[16:34] <chotaz`w> NYTimes, Install PlayOnLinux, it's your best bet.
[16:34] <daftykins> !appdb | NYTimes read here
[16:34] <NYTimes> thx
[16:34] <artois> NYTimes: that a game?
[16:34] <NYTimes> artois also
[16:35] <artois> your best bet is probably to read the notes at ubottu's link, but playonlinux might "just work" for win32 apps
[16:35] <NYTimes> artois thx
[16:35] <OerHeks> NYTimes, purchase the game RUST on steam i guess
[16:36] <NYTimes> OerHeks nope I do not think so
[16:36] <lotuspsychje> NYTimes: it does show RUST on steam
[16:37] <daftykins> yeah but it's windows, mac and steambox only.
[16:37] <daftykins> actually, windows and mac only i think.
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> AH
[16:37] <NYTimes> lotuspsychje I do not have any money for games sorry
[16:37] <OerHeks> steam or humble store,
[16:37] <OerHeks> NYTimes, then choose a free game :-D
[16:37] <daftykins> NYTimes: then we don't want to know how you intend on getting it
[16:38] <NYTimes> OerHeks u right
[16:38] <OerHeks> lots of them @ steam
[16:38] <linocisco> typing in text box is always a problem as pointer is moving at random anywhere at any speed
[16:38] <Chrissem> we need more linux games ;)
[16:38] <ykrons> Hi all
[16:38] <NYTimes> Chrissen I don't even know one
[16:39] <chotaz`w> Chrissem, what we need is proper GPU support for linux. rather than more games.
[16:39] <motaka2> OerHeks: ?
[16:39] <OerHeks> "what we need" is more suitable for #ubuntu-discussion
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[16:40] <NYTimes> okokok I /part
[16:40] <NYTimes> cya
[16:41] <ykrons> When I do a "sudo tar -xvzf " on an archive I get files not owned by root:root but by my user created during installation. I can't find clear documentation about this. Is there a good place to find explanations?
[16:43] <tsbtmn> I am refurbishing an old laptop and just popped in an SSD.  I've never worked with an SSD before.  Is a swap partition a bad idea?  Note: the laptop has 2 gigs of ram installed.
[16:43] <linocisco> typing in text box is always a problem as pointer is moving at random anywhere at any speed
[16:43] <daftykins> ykrons: it's only one more command to change ownership?
[16:43] <OerHeks> ykrons, see man tar # use the -p option to preserve permissions
[16:43] <millerti> What was the command again to install the latest kernel?
[16:43] <daftykins> linocisco: you keep on repeating your question, but it does not give enough of an explanation to be of any use.
[16:43] <artois> tsbtmn: jeez man, don't cross post
[16:43] <daftykins> sudo apt-get install linux-generic ; millerti
[16:43] <millerti> I think I've discovered that there are circumstances where installing or upgrading to 15.10 does not install kernels at all.
[16:43] <wileee> tsbtmn, SSD are pretty solid these days, if you want to hibernate yes.
[16:44] <artois> tsbtmn: you were already adequately answered elsewhere
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | millerti
[16:44] <millerti> daftykins: Thanks.  I'm putting that into my notes.
[16:44] <linocisco> daftykins, i dont know how to explain more to draw attention of volunteer
[16:44] <motaka2_> daftykins: I have ubuntu on my flash as you said yesterday but when I boot the keyboard doesn't work
[16:44] <lotuspsychje> !details | linocisco like this
[16:44] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, I remember i explained to you the other day
[16:44] <ykrons> daftykins, I know this, but want to understand why a command don't give me the same result on two different computer
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: this is a new day, with other volunteers
[16:45] <daftykins> ykrons: what are the two?
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: re-ask all in one line + details please so other can try solving
[16:45] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, daftykins the thing is my annoying pointer which goes randomly at random speed at random time
[16:45] <daftykins> linocisco: so when touching nothing, your laptop's mouse pointer on-screen is dancing around?
[16:46] <linocisco> daftykins, that is the point
[16:46] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: ubuntu version, grafix card chipset?
[16:46] <ykrons> OerHeks, I will check the -p option, but I think the tar is OK as it produces file owned by the proper user on one computer and not on the other
[16:46] <ykrons> daftykins, it's two ubuntu 14.04
[16:47] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, daftykins Dell Inspiron 3443 Core i 7, 15.04, x86. Intel® HD Graphics 5500 (Broadwell GT2)
[16:47] <tsbtmn> artois: Thanks.
[16:47] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: did you test LTS if you have same issue?
[16:48] <daftykins> motaka2: so... what is your question?
[16:48] <motaka2> daftykins: I have ubuntu on my flash as you said yesterday but when I boot the keyboard doesn't work
[16:48] <motaka2> daftykins: so I can't select any option in installer boot menu
[16:48] <daftykins> motaka2: but it reaches the desktop now without needing nomodeset?
[16:48] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, yes. LTS 14.04 is worst and some drivers are missing and I can't even work like I am using with 15.04
[16:48] <daftykins> oh that early.
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: but, did you have the pointer problem on LTS?
[16:49] <motaka2> daftykins: it doesnt reach desktop
[16:49] <ykrons> daftykins, OerHeks: that's OK, I get it. The saved owner is not created in one computer. So I think tar falls back on a defaut user
[16:49] <daftykins> motaka2: you'll need to use a key such as F2, delete - or otherwise to enter the BIOS and look for a "USB legacy" option to change, usually it has choices between Enabled/Disabled
[16:49] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, I didn't notice well. but graphic and wlan, blsuetooth and others were major problem
[16:50] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, that was why I decided to use 15.05
[16:50] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, that was why I decided to use 15.04
[16:50] <motaka2> daftykins: I think the usb boot works cause I see the installer boot menu
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: grafix issues can be solved
[16:50] <daftykins> motaka2: and you tried booting to there with the keyboard unplugged, then plug it in once the menu is there?
[16:51] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, but let it be. I have very limited and expensive internet.
[16:51] <millerti> AHA!  apt-get install linux-generic
[16:51] <millerti> Whoops.
[16:51] <millerti> http://askubuntu.com/questions/689358/ubuntu-kernel-not-updating-with-15-10
[16:51] <motaka2> daftykins: I will unplug and restart and when the menu is there I will plug the keyboars. is that what you want ?
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: you need to take action mate, investigate your logs @15.04 and come back here with details/errors
[16:51] <daftykins> motaka2: yep
[16:52] <motaka2> daftykins: ok wait ...
[16:52] <wileee> millerti, run the generic than apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:53] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, i dont know how to check log. even if I see, I dont know what is error and how to take action. let me paste here syslog and dmesg like you said in the other day . again
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: didnt we see ACPI firmware errors the other day?
[16:53] <motaka2> daftykins: nope it doesnt work
[16:53] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, i dont know
[16:53] <daftykins> motaka2: tried more ports?
[16:54] <motaka2> daftykins: I did right now
[16:54] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, syslog=http://paste.ubuntu.com/12971181/
[16:54] <heber> hello, is any one know about pidgin
[16:54] <daftykins> motaka2: this is quite strange, normally you have to press a key to get the Try, install, etc. menu to begin with
[16:55] <daftykins> heber: ask the question
[16:55] <UniFreak> how to let application auto on top when open? like in windows
[16:55] <motaka2> daftykins: idk
[16:55] <heber> how to sign with it
[16:55] <motaka2> daftykins: What doe  you suggest then ?
[16:55] <wileee> UniFreak, what desktop and release?
[16:55] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, dmesg= http://paste.ubuntu.com/12971321/ (nothing inside)
[16:55] <daftykins> motaka2: as already mentioned, you will need to enter your system BIOS and look for the USB Legacy enabled/disabled option
[16:56] <UniFreak> wileee: ubuntu 15.10 64bit
[16:56] <wileee> UniFreak, Take a look in the unity-tweak tool it needs installing, ccsm might be another as far as gui's
[16:57] <heber> daftykins:help plz
[16:57] <daftykins> heber: 'sign' = ?
[16:57] <wileee> UniFreak, That is rather irritating I know, I use the gnome shell.
[16:57] <heber> yaa
[16:57] <daftykins> heber: sign in? with what protocol? you need an existing account on a supported chat service
[16:58] <motaka2> daftykins: I really dont know where i can find it
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: that doesnt sound too good:  0.039183] Your BIOS is broken and requested that x2apic be disabled.
[16:58] <heber> with xmpp
[16:58] <daftykins> motaka2: neither can i, so you have to try every screen
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> linocisco:  0.147827] [Firmware Bug]: ACPI: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored
[16:58] <UniFreak> wileee: can you point me to a link? I can't find anything search google
[16:58] <daftykins> heber: so open the program and select to add an account, then pick XMPP
[16:58] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, what should I do? one thing i remembered was on one day , I turned on computer and power off home breaker. and battery drain
[16:58] <UniFreak> what gnome shell
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: my advise, go back to LTS stable and solve your issues from there
[16:59] <heber> yes picked already
[16:59] <motaka2> daftykins: usb keyboard support ?
[16:59] <wileee> UniFreak, I'm looking right now, gotta find the right search foo is all
[16:59] <daftykins> motaka2: that might work, what is it on now?
[16:59] <daftykins> heber: https://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/Using%20Pidgin#HowdoIuseAIMMSNYahooGoogleTalkJabberXMPPICQoranyotherprotocol
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: or try some ACPI boot options on 15.04 and file bugs on your system
[16:59] <motaka2> daftykins: disable
[16:59] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, i have installed and saved alot of work on here. printer drivers which is difficult to setup and many others. do you really want me to go back to 14.04 LTS as only solution?
[16:59] <daftykins> motaka2: ok try changing it, save and exit, then try again
[17:00] <UniFreak> wileee: yes, using `auto on top` do no good. but can't think other keywords out
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: no, that is totaly your choice: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: i can onloy suggest what i would do
[17:00] <wileee> UniFreak, I would look at the apps I mention the unity-tweak tool is a good one ccsm is what the desktop sits in as a plugin.
[17:00] <motaka2> daftykins: no it doesnt work
[17:01] <wileee> !ccsm | UniFreak
[17:01] <daftykins> motaka2: it's possible there's still an issue with the flash drive boot media, try different ports for that too
[17:01] <dominic1134> i'm building a deb package which depends on mysql.  i try to suppress the mysql password prompts during installation with deb-set-selections inside my preinst, but this doesn't work.  any workaround for this?
[17:01] <motaka2> daftykins: I did  that befor
[17:02] <daftykins> motaka2: now things have changed :) try powering off, too
[17:02] <dominic1134> i'm building a deb package which depends on mysql-server.  i would like to suppress the mysql password prompts during installation with deb-set-selections inside my preinst, but this doesn't work, because my preinst get's executed after mysql-server install script is invoked.  any workaround for this?
[17:02] <wileee> dominic1134, patience please free volunteer help here.
[17:02] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: also you can check recent bios updates for your system
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: this is toshiba machine?
[17:03] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, how to ?
[17:03] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, Dell
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> ah
[17:03] <motaka2> daftykins: powered off an still nothing
[17:03] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, Dell inspiron 3443
[17:03] <dominic1134> is there a channel for deb packaging or debian package maintainers over here?
[17:03] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: check dell's website for recent bios updates
[17:03] <daftykins> motaka2: you need to actually apply some thought to situations like these, go and check the BIOS again and experiment
[17:04] <motaka2> daftykins: ok
[17:05] <heber> daftykins:is pidgin differ from xchat
[17:05] <artois> pidgin is an IM client that also does IRC
[17:05] <artois> xchat is an IRC client
[17:05] <artois> replace by hexchat
[17:05] <UniFreak> wileee: I installed it. can you tell me which option should I change? I'm afraid my desktop will blow up
[17:06] <UniFreak> I'm using hexchat
[17:06] <daftykins> UniFreak: that's silly.
[17:07] <UniFreak> previously I use thunderbirds' build in irc funtionality, it's very good, only can't transfer file. so I switched to hexCaht
[17:07] <UniFreak> *hexChat*
[17:07] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: man you have so many issues in syslog... nouveau: probe of 0000:08:00.0 failed with error -22
[17:07] <wileee> UniFreak, Not really I don't use that desktop so just a point at what might be the fix.
[17:08] <UniFreak> if hexChat can support auto-format like *bold* _italic_
[17:08] <UniFreak> it will be perfect
[17:08] <heber> daftykins
[17:08] <daftykins> heber: you were answered by someone else, read up.
[17:09] <heber> ok thanks daftykins
[17:09] <UniFreak> plus, auto-smiley, :)
[17:10] <motaka2> daftykins: gave up, never was good with hardware
[17:10] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, I dont know what they are
[17:10] <daftykins> motaka2: what version did you put on the flash drive?
[17:11] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, two major issue is nm-applet and pointer issue
[17:11] <motaka2> daftykins: 14.04 lts, i have check ed  the flash with another PC and it booted fine
[17:11] <daftykins> motaka2: ah you neglected to mention that part
[17:11] <motaka2> daftykins: sorry
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: i would fresh install 14.04.3 or tryout 15.10
[17:11] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, I never get ipv4 address or connection
[17:12] <daftykins> motaka2: is it possible you have something plugged into this system via USB that's not important? sometimes booting with the bare minimum plugged in can help.
[17:12] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, is 15.10 LTS? I heard. I didn't check. what is good with 15.10
[17:12] <daftykins> no it is not
[17:12] <daftykins> 14.04 = LTS
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> linocisco  16.04 will be lts, in april
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> linocisco  12.04, 14.04, 16.04, 18.04 etc
[17:13] <motaka2> daftykins: i dont know. I think i dont understand you
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: LTS can solve alot of issues you having in syslog right now
[17:13] <daftykins> motaka2: unplug non-essential devices.
[17:13] <linocisco> MonkeyDust, daftykins , hi dears. I can't wait for annoying things until LTS in April. let me go to somewhere with good internet and download 15.10 x64 iso
[17:14] <motaka2> daftykins: What are they
[17:14] <motaka2> like mouse and keyboard ?
[17:14] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, the reason why I stopped using 14.04 LTS was screen is rotating like NTSC and PAL mismatch
[17:14] <daftykins> motaka2: yeah and the screen too, those should be the only 3 things plugged in (besides power :P )
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: you should have come to here and ask your issue on 14.04
[17:15] <daftykins> motaka2: perhaps check that that BIOS option was actually saved.
[17:15] <motaka2> daftykins: mouse keyboard and screen and the flash with ubuntu are all the four things plugged
[17:16] <motaka2> daftykins: it was saved
[17:16] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, if I would have to discuss about 14.04 and my laptop problem in details, I need another computer with internet to chat. i have only one. Otherwise, I could not report you real time
[17:16] <daftykins> motaka2: ok, you could also try loading the defaults. after that, i have no further ideas beyond another keyboard
[17:17] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: did you fully updated 14.04 to 14.04.3 at that time?
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: installed with cable + updates enabled during setup
[17:18] <millerti> Is there a convenient way to figure out which ethernet device is associated with a physical NIC?  Here's what I do:  (1) lspci, looking for the device and getting this PCI ID.  (2) grep dmesg for the PCI ID, get the MAC address.  (3) grep "ifconfig -a" for the MAC address.
[17:18] <millerti> And you know what's REALLY bizarre?  My ethernet devices have all different names on each 15.10 machine I have.
[17:19] <daftykins> millerti: lshw -C network
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> millerti: ifconfig     will give the MAC address of an interface
[17:19] <daftykins> millerti: yeah they will...
[17:19] <motaka2> daftykins: It all started with some like /tmp doesnt exist
[17:19] <Myrtti_> millerti: https://askubuntu.com/questions/689070/network-interface-name-changes-after-update-to-15-10-udev-changes
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> millerti: do you have 2 Ethernet ports with Ethernet chips from different vendors?
[17:19] <daftykins> motaka2: yeah that doesn't matter.
[17:19] <dominic1134> i'm building a deb package which depends on mysql-server.  i would like to suppress the mysql password prompts during installation with deb-set-selections inside my preinst, but this doesn't work, because my preinst get's executed after mysql-server install script is invoked.  any workaround for this?
[17:20] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, not really. I just stopped with 14.04 as a friend suggested to move on to 15.04. like immediate solution
[17:20] <motaka2> daftykins: I have  lost lots of data. I though linux is more reliable than windows
[17:20] <millerti> Myrtti_: Yeah, I read that a while back.  So why is it that one machine reverted back to eth named when I upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10 ?
[17:20] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, what cable?
[17:20] <millerti> ActionParsnip: I figured it all out.  I'm just ranting.
[17:20] <Myrtti_> millerti: that I don't know.
[17:21] <daftykins> motaka2: no, you have lost nothing - as i said it is still there on the hard disk. you are assuming the worst. the OS cannot protect against the user, sorry.
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: switching to a non-lts doesnt mean immediate fixxed issues
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> millerti: if you can use different vendors, the first few characters in the MAC will define that for you, makes it easier :)
[17:22] <motaka2> daftykins: ok, i will take the case to shop which also repair the systems. maybe something is wrong with my hardware
[17:22] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, but it fixed driver problems.. more models are supported
[17:22] <daftykins> motaka2: could be.
[17:22] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, I will download 14.04.xxx and 15.10
[17:22] <daftykins> motaka2: just go in with it and the flash drive and see if you can get their keyboards to work.
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: i would go from LTS in your case, and try to solve issue per issue
[17:22] <linocisco> lotuspsychje,  I dont know what is latest on 14.04.xx but let me start with LTS as you said
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: 14.04.3
[17:23] <Kion> why does upgrading to 15.10 disabled some of my ppa's, Is it ok if I just go to /etc/apt/sources.list and take the # off?
[17:23] <motaka2> daftykins: I have an extra keyboard here
[17:23] <motaka2> do you want me to plug it in ?
[17:23] <lotuspsychje> !ppapurge | Kion
[17:23] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, that should be case by case. but you guys are not always free to reply like now. and I am from opposite time zone
[17:23] <daftykins> motaka2: how have you not tried this already?
[17:23] <millerti> Then there's the joy of trying to figure out WHICH NIC port I need to use.  Fortunately, I have only two SFP+ ports, but I had to try each one in turn.  No way to tell which one has a cable plugged in that I can see.
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> linocisco: 1800 users here worldwide daily to help you
[17:24] <motaka2> daftykins: I havent yet tried another keyboard
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> linocisco  we're all from different timezones
[17:25] <linocisco> lotuspsychje, Online users does not always mean that response ever. I dont want to  repeat until i got !patience from bot
[17:26] <linocisco> MonkeyDust, lotuspsychje thanks for your help . let me try my luck again
[17:26] <Seveas> linocisco: don't walk under ladders and don't break the mirror. You should be fine :)
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> linocisco  and watch out for black cats
[17:27] <linocisco> Seveas, MonkeyDust I dont understand really
[17:29] <linocisco> ubuntu community is changing . most nicks are new. I joined lauchpad on 2007. the nicks I saw always are disappeared totally
[17:29] <ioria> MonkeyDust, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNSYzXIiVrM
[17:30] <artois> things change
[17:30] <Kion> ubottu: It was two ppa's the unofficial ppa for FreeCAD and another unofficial for FlightGear, so what will ppa-purge will do?
[17:31] <imnotarobot> Hello guys.
[17:31] <artois> hey guy
[17:32] <imnotarobot> Anyone to know an open source replacement to the i2 Analyst`s Notebook?
[17:32] <imnotarobot> Can`t find.
[17:33] <artois> imnotarobot: link?
[17:33] <Seveas> linocisco: I've been here since 2004 :)
[17:34] <imnotarobot> artois: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analyst%27s_Notebook
[17:34] <imnotarobot> that one
[17:34] <imnotarobot> they have a little on the wiki.
[17:34] <linocisco> Seveas, i was away from ubuntu for years. By the time, I used ubuntu, I know Martin Pitt
[17:34] <mcphail> linocisco: Seveas helped me with my first evcer question on this channel during the warty warthog days
[17:34] <linocisco> and some guys who created APTONCD.
[17:35] <linocisco> now. I dont know where they has gone
[17:36] <lhz> i keep getting "[initramfs] Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" when I try to install 15.10-desktop from USB drive. tried two different laptops, both had earlier Ubuntu releases installed on them before. tried two different pen drives, and different methods of writing the iso to it (dd, unetbootin, universal usb installer). same result every time. any ideas?
[17:36] <artois> imnotarobot: ah, if they sell it to governments, chances are it's not worth using
[17:36] <artois> governments are the biggest suckers of them all
[17:36] <artois> they'll pay for anything, but only if it's expensive
[17:38] <artois> http://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/free-alternative-to-i2.133794/
[17:38] <daftykins> lhz: sounds like your drive was made up badly. you're definitely using dd with /dev/sdx and not /dev/sdx1 yes?
[17:39] <imnotarobot> artois: maybe not, however there _should_ be an analogue. It`s all about graphs made from people. Like in police movies.
[17:39] <linocisco> i think ubuntu supports or promote alot "python" than other languages
[17:39] <lhz> daftykins: yeah, but like I said, tried 3 different methods, all of them working flawlessly in the past. even downloaded the iso twice just to make sure it is ok.
[17:39] <Seveas> linocisco: they tried that for a while. Turns out: developers don't care :)
[17:39] <imnotarobot> artois: >they'll pay for anything, but only if it's expensive
[17:39] <Seveas> They'll use whatever they want anyway
[17:40] <daftykins> lhz: hash it, don't redownload :)
[17:40] <daftykins> !md5
[17:40] <imnotarobot> artois: The guys who have the money may want to get a bit of them on the contract.
[17:40] <artois> it looks like visio plus maps and graphs
[17:40] <lhz> daftykins: and it starts the process, I am getting the purple screen with the Ubuntu logo, but returns to console with that error message after about a minute.
[17:40] <artois> plenty of open source apps for all those things
[17:40] <carrgo> what is the name for the backbox channel
[17:40] <Kion> every time I turn my computer on I get a message saying "applications can no longer log in to an_email_@hotmail.com" but if I go into accounts all I see is a blank account That I can not delete, Where in the /etc are these online accounts stored, I want to delete it.!
[17:40] <daftykins> !backbox
[17:40] <carrgo> and dont say backbox
[17:40] <kostkon> !alis | carrgo
[17:40] <daftykins> carrgo: it's on a different network.
[17:40] <carrgo> because no one is there
[17:40] <daftykins> carrgo: it's NOT on freenode.
[17:40] <carrgo> which one
[17:41] <linocisco> Seveas, because there is a command "python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8080" to easily build small webserver in LAN to share. I dont know or see about other languages
[17:41] <daftykins> carrgo: read above!
[17:42] <heber> chrome or vivaldi
[17:42] <daftykins> heber: use what you want, we don't allow polls here.
[17:42] <imnotarobot> artois: Ok, I`m gonna take a look, lol.
[17:42] <carrgo> thanks
[17:43] <bilb_ono> can anyone help me? I am trying to start unity. it starts up into just a terminal. I try entering unity and it says compiz (core) - Fatal: Couldn’t open display :O
[17:43] <heber> k cool
[17:44] <imnotarobot> linocisco: There is busybox httpd. I guess there`ll be a much better approach incorporated in systemd.
[17:44] <imnotarobot> heber: Try Leechcraft if you`re that bored.
[17:45] <daftykins> bilb_ono: what's the story here, what led to today?
[17:45] <linocisco> imnotarobot, thanks for response. i want to curiously know about busybox. I still dont understand about busybox. is it small linux ? or embedded linux? dont refer me to wiki for long reading
[17:45] <lhz> daftykins: good idea. looks like it doesn't match, so the download must be broken. it's just that I've done it twice now on two different PCs with same result. direct download http://releases.ubuntu.com/15.10/ubuntu-15.10-desktop-amd64.iso. strange.
[17:46] <daftykins> lhz: try using a torrent instead, that'll give you a good image - then i would use 'dd' again.
[17:46] <imnotarobot> linocisco: it`s a horde of small programs bundled into one executable. It has its own init and coreutils. Some other things too.
[17:47] <imnotarobot> linocisco: That`s why it is usable in embedded linux: you can have a lot by compiling only busybox.
[17:48] <linocisco> imnotarobot, have you used busybox?
[17:48] <linocisco> imnotarobot, I had annoying problem with busybox commands before on QNAP
[17:49] <imnotarobot> linocisco: httpd and its shell. Out of curiosity. Never tried to do anything with it.
[17:49] <imnotarobot> linocisco: What the QNAP is?
[17:50] <NYTimes> hello everyone I'm usiing weechat in a tmux-session and I can not manage to select text I'd very much like to be able to copy from my terminal
[17:50] <daftykins> imnotarobot: that's not on topic here.
[17:50] <linocisco> imnotarobot, https://www.qnap.com/i/useng/
[17:50] <cyphix> NYTimes: What is your problem exactly?
[17:50] <cyphix> NYTimes: You can't select anything at all?
[17:51] <XxKNO56xX> I believe he has problems selecting text in the terminal?
[17:51] <NYTimes> cyphix exactly
[17:51] <imnotarobot> daftykins: Ok, I`ll try my next question to be on-topic.
[17:51] <cyphix> NYTimes: Can you normally select text in a standard tmux session?
[17:51] <NYTimes> cyphix nope
[17:52] <imnotarobot> Here it is: I want to install the base system in place of the other system
[17:52] <imnotarobot> Using debootstrap
[17:52] <cyphix> NYTimes: So it does not seem to be a weechat issue. What terminal emulator do you use?
[17:52] <imnotarobot> The guides don`t say about downloading Ubuntu into /
[17:52] <imnotarobot> How can I do it?
[17:53] <daftykins> imnotarobot: on what, a QNAP NAS? no, not appropriate here.
[17:53] <imnotarobot> On a laptop.
[17:54] <daftykins> why using debootstrap? why not just normally?
[17:54] <ddr-new> Hi all. So I hosed my old install yesterday by hitting the 'upgrade distribution' button, and today I'm coming to you from a brand-new installation.
[17:54] <ddr-new> Well, installed over top of my old one.
[17:54] <NYTimes> cyphix I'm afraid I do not even know that
[17:54] <imnotarobot> I do not have a CD drive or a flash pendrive. Can`t get it.
[17:54] <daftykins> ddr-new: and the question is?
[17:54] <bilb_ono> turns out my .Xauthority file was owned by root. I changed ownership to my user and it worked! lightdm couldn’t start because of that
[17:54] <lhz> daftykins: the torrent download yields the correct md5, thanks for the hint!
[17:55] <ddr-new> I have my old encrypted home directory, all is well and good, but even though I wrote down the passphrase (and could actually find it!) I can't decrypt my directory.
[17:55] <daftykins> imnotarobot: flash drives are so cheap and even available in supermarkets now, i strongly suggest you splash out and get one.
[17:55] <cyphix> NYTimes: Ok it's probably the default one. Does it work with the shift key holded while selecting with mouse?
[17:55] <ddr-new> I try recovering the directory, but it just says failed to mount, no such file or directory: http://www.pasteall.org/61887
[17:55] <daftykins> lhz: no problem, would you also like confirmation of a wise method to put it on the flash drive now?
[17:55] <NYTimes> cyphix nope
[17:56] <lhz> daftykins: yes please
[17:56] <NYTimes> cyphix I think I'll try terminator
[17:56] <imnotarobot> daftykins: For some reason, I cannot use a pendrive.
[17:56] <ddr-new> Does anyone have any ideas?
[17:56] <hellslinger> does anyone know how to figure out why the power manager is not suspending the machine after a time? I'm on 14.04 using mate-power-manager/xfce4-power-manager
[17:56] <cyphix> NYTimes: Can you select text in a terminal without tmux?
[17:57] <cyphix> NYTimes: It's a solution, but it might not work if it's a tmux related problem
[17:57] <NYTimes> cyphix is gnome the default one ? nope not even without tmux
[17:57] <Pici> NYTimes: how are you trying to copy text?
[17:58] <cyphix> NYTimes: Gnome is the desktop environment. I don't remember which terminal emulator is the default one for ubuntu.
[17:58] <cyphix> Pici: that's actually the question I should have asked first :p
[17:58] <bob_> hay
[17:58] <NYTimes> Pici I tried copy-mode and with the mouse holding shift
[17:59] <SeerKan> Hi guys, any easy way to set some default permissions for folders created by nginx ?
[17:59] <bob_> seerkan instal gentoo
[17:59] <imnotarobot> daftykins: i guess it`s not ontopic because its *de*bootstrap, not ubustrap. Thanks.
[17:59] <linocisco> https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/product-support/servicetag/JNJMC32/drivers
[17:59] <SeerKan> bob_: what does gentoo have to do with it ?
[18:00] <cyphix> NYTimes: You can't select (highlight text) or you can't copy the selected text?
[18:00] <linocisco> Dell has no support for my ubuntu though listed
[18:00] <bob_> SeerKan just try trust me
[18:00] <imnotarobot> SeerKan: maybe umask has something to do with that?
[18:00] <Pici> bob_: This is the Ubuntu support channel, asking people to install other distros isn't a solution.
[18:00] <NYTimes> cyphix yes
[18:01] <SeerKan> imnotarobot: that might work...
[18:01] <NYTimes> cyphix u got that right
[18:01] <bob_> Pici true. sry ^^
[18:01] <imnotarobot> SeerKan: then try it.
[18:01] <cyphix> NYTimes: It wasn't a yes/no question :) Which part doesn't work? Selecting, or copying selected text?
[18:02] <imnotarobot> Pici: not a solution for marketing reasons?
[18:02] <cyphix> NYTimes: Can you highlight text with the mouse inside a terminal?
[18:03] <Pici> imnotarobot: not a solution because this channel is for Ubuntu support only. Asking people to install another distro is rarely a solution to any issues.
[18:03] <ddr-new> oh, /sudo/ ecryptfs-recover-private, that works.
[18:03] <daftykins> lhz: if you plug your flash drive in then - and you're on a Linux already i take it? so if you install pastebinit then run "sudo parted -l | pastebinit" and share the link
[18:03] <linocisco> Pici, we need to think ubuntu way. and walk like Mark shuttleworth
[18:03] <imnotarobot> Pici: It may be _rarely_, though :D
[18:03] <linocisco> Pici, yes. you are right
[18:04] <it_> how can i install grub?
[18:04] <ikonia> grub is installed by default when you install ubuntu
[18:04] <ikonia> it's the default boot loader
[18:04] <EriC^^> it_: what's the problem?
[18:04] <ddr-new> nope, no decrypty 4 me
[18:04] <miha> how to install mac yosemite theme on ubuntu linux 14 link and instructions pliyy
[18:04] <ikonia> miha: you don't
[18:04] <it_> to run also with windows?
[18:04] <miha> plizz
[18:05] <patsToms> hey, someone have any idea why ubuntu installet at step where it should show windows partitions
[18:05] <ikonia> it_: grub is outside of ubuntu and windows, it's the boot loader that lives on the disk
[18:05] <patsToms> is showing only free hdd?
[18:05] <EriC^^> patsToms: it might be stray gpt data
[18:05] <daftykins> patsToms: sounds like you booted as legacy instead of EFI
[18:05] <badbodh> miha, find the theme yourself. extract the theme archive to ~/.themes directory (in your home folder)
[18:05] <daftykins> patsToms: or perhaps your system uses RAID transparently
[18:05] <lhz> daftykins: ah, sorry. I have Ubuntu on the PC at work, right now I'm sitting on a computer running Ubuntu inside VMware on Win7.
[18:06] <NYTimes> cyphix I can highlight while holding down but it gets deselected right after
[18:06] <miha> just sent me a link to the web page
[18:06] <ikonia> miha: what ?
[18:06] <daftykins> lhz: and you downloaded the ISO to the windows host? if so, use universal USB installer (UUI) from pendrivelinux.com
[18:06] <Pici> miha: we don't know of any. You'll need to look for yourself.
[18:06] <badbodh> miha, yeah. nope. want some go find some.
[18:06] <k1l_> !themes | miha
[18:06] <super_cntrlr> N00bs?
[18:06] <miha> im a ubuntu user realy like it
[18:06] <lhz> daftykins: thanks, trying that one now, I found the guide at http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[18:07] <imnotarobot> miha: then why do you like Yosemite more?
[18:07] <super_cntrlr> Hi. How do i config my VM to use Genymotion?
[18:07] <it_> yes i know but i need it to run both xubuntu and even windows
[18:07] <rabobank> question: added a second monitor to my ubuntu system and now i've got two independent desktops.. e.g. can't drag windows between them. how do i reset my X or desktop settings so i have one desktop sharing two monitors?
[18:08] <imnotarobot> it_: simultaneously?
[18:08] <miha> just to transform the ubuntu 14 to osx to look better
[18:08] <badbodh> it_, why do you want to install grub ? grub should already be installed with ubuntu to begin with. you facing some problem ?
[18:08] <k1l_> miha: see the bots message if you find a theme there
[18:08] <patsToms> EriC^^, so about that gpt. Maybe you have some link which you can point to me?
[18:08] <it_> i am using a live session
[18:09] <EriC^^> patsToms: try sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda and paste the output
[18:09] <patsToms> EriC^^, I have windows 8 installed here. And I want to install ubuntu
[18:09] <badbodh> it_, have you installed ubuntu on your hdd yet ?
[18:09] <patsToms> EriC^^, You mean - boot live cd and then execute that?
[18:09] <NYTimes> cyphix still there ?
[18:09] <it_> windows did something to remove it
[18:09] <EriC^^> patsToms: yeah
[18:09] <imnotarobot> miha: It won`t look better at most. They do not hire Apple designers to make Apple-style themes.
[18:09] <patsToms> EriC^^, ok, momento
[18:09] <cyphix> NYTimes: yes
[18:10] <NYTimes> cyphix I can highlight while holding down but it gets deselected right after
[18:10] <cyphix> NYTimes: Sorry I missed your previous message
[18:10] <Pici> NYTimes: thats normal .As soon as you highlight and it is deselected it goes into X's clipboard. Just ctrl-v somewhere outside of your terminal.
[18:10] <it_> but i have still everything else all partitions
[18:10] <cyphix> NYTimes: Or press the middle-button. It will paste it
[18:11] <daftykins> it_: did you put Windows on first or second?
[18:11] <imnotarobot> it_: even the Ubuntu partition?
[18:12] <NYTimes> Pici I'd like to copy from my terminal and repaste it inside
[18:12] <ddr-new> oh, I have to be in the .Private directory.
[18:12] <Pici> NYTimes: then middle-click inside your terminal
[18:12] <ddr-new> Who designed this??? O_o
[18:13] <badbodh> it_, please be clear and concise when stating your problems. give us all the details in one attempt. what is your problem. what happened/did you do before it came up. what do you have on your pc (partitions, basic hardware). and why do you think you need to "install grub" . don;t make us play "guess what" :D
[18:13] <daftykins> ddr-new: pretty straightforward really.
[18:13] <it_> i had windows before i installed xubuntu but windows did something to the mbr so windows starts before grub
[18:13] <EriC^^> wubi?
[18:14] <EriC^^> how did you install xubuntu? from within windows?
[18:14] <ddr-new> Sure, _after_ I figured it out.
[18:14] <it_> no separated partitions
[18:14] <ddr-new> Nothing but this one random SO post says I need to run it where I need to run it.
[18:14] <EriC^^> it_: did grub ever work before?
[18:14] <ddr-new> It's not obvious at all!
[18:14] <NYTimes> Pici ok when I midlle-click it stays selected then ?
[18:15] <it_> yes grub worked very well
[18:15] <Pici> NYTimes: no, just click the middle mouse button, don't select with the middle mouse button.
[18:15] <badbodh> it_, open terminal and run "lsblk" and share on pastebin
[18:15] <EriC^^> it_: ok, it's probably windows reinstalling its efi files after an update
[18:15] <EriC^^> it_: can you boot into ubuntu right now?
[18:15] <it_> windows did something to grub
[18:16] <it_> no live session only
[18:16] <it_> with usb
[18:16] <NYTimes> Pici ok then ctrl shift c ?
[18:16] <EriC^^> it_: ok, are you in the live session right now?
[18:16] <DrManhattan> it_: did you install windows after ubuntu?
[18:16] <miha> how to install cubase 5 witch is a wery large program in ubuntu
[18:16] <badbodh> EriC^^, he mentioned " windows did something to the mbr " earlier. you sure he has efi instead?
[18:16] <DrManhattan> miha: theres cubase for linux native??/
[18:16] <ikonia> cubase does not have a linux version
[18:16] <it_> yes i am in the live session now
[18:16] <ikonia> and running a DAW in wine is a bad move
[18:17] <EriC^^> badbodh: nope just a guess
[18:17] <Pici> NYTimes: There are two clipboard buffers in Linux. Either select with mouse and use middle mouse button to paste, or select and use ctrl-shift-c to copy, ctrl-shift-v to paste
[18:17] <EriC^^> badbodh: my windows keeps rewriting the efi stuff when it updates every once in a while
[18:17] <ikonia> EriC^^: really, it's overriding the boot sector as part of a windows update ?
[18:17] <badbodh> ok EriC^^ . it_ run 'lsblk' first and show us output on pastebin. should tell if you have mbr or efi system
[18:18] <DrManhattan> I'll have to agree with ikonia on that one. Running a DAW in linux is a bad idea.
[18:18] <EriC^^> ikonia: no it's rewriting the bootmgfw.efi files which i had to switch to get my bios to boot ubuntu's shimx64.efi
[18:18] <DrManhattan> in WINE, sorry
[18:18] <it_> it is not efi i think, i am using, an older windows
[18:18] <DrManhattan> I'm sure there's some sort of DAW setup in SOMETHING for linux native
[18:18] <ikonia> EriC^^: interestig, that's useful to know
[18:18] <miha> i have plazonlinux installed witch is based on wine  casn i install cubase 5 with it
[18:18] <ikonia> miha: no
[18:19] <badbodh> it_, as i said earlier "be concise" , "older windows" is not a concise statement :/
[18:19] <EriC^^> it_: can you type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999 ?
[18:19] <DrManhattan> miha: you might be able to get it to install, but I wouldn't expect it to work.
[18:19] <NYTimes> Pici only ctrl shift v works
[18:20] <Pici> NYTimes: use that then
[18:20] <badbodh> dang it. it_ sorry, i meant "precise" , stupid me
[18:20] <badbodh> this third language thing kills me once in a while
[18:20] <NYTimes> Pici yeah but to copy from ?
[18:20] <mtn_> hello can you help me " I cant open .dat vcd video " ?
[18:21] <EriC^^> NYTimes: ctrl shift + c
[18:21] <it_> http://termbin.com/w28t
[18:21] <cyphix> NYTimes: Does your mouse has a wheel?
[18:21] <it_> http://termbin.com/9608
[18:22] <miha> i dont know anz commands in linux because i just install it
[18:22] <mtn_> hello can you help me " I cant open .dat vcd video " ?
[18:22] <EriC^^> it_: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[18:22] <EriC^^> it_: why ext3? not ext4?
[18:22] <cyphix> NYTimes: If it does, select your text in the terminal, put your pointer on the message line, and click on the wheel. It will paste the selected text inside the message zone.
[18:23] <artois> mtn_: pardon?
[18:23] <imnotarobot> it_: You have to chroot into your Ubuntu partition.
[18:23] <badbodh> mtn_, have you installed 'restricted extras' and vlc ? should be able to play vcd
[18:23] <mtn_> Yes I tryied
[18:24] <artois> what'd you try, exactly?
[18:24] <it_> can i just reinstall grub or something like that
[18:24] <imnotarobot> it_: Inside the chrooted system, I guess.
[18:24] <EriC^^> it_: yeah, by chrooting it's pretty easy
[18:25] <mtn_> i setup wine gom player , wmp, vlc for wine and linux but i cant open .dat video
[18:25] <EriC^^> it_: type sudo mount dev/sda7 /mnt
[18:25] <badbodh> mtn_, don;t wine man. why wine. linux got native video players, use those.
[18:26] <badbodh> vlc is available in software centre, also try smplayer.
[18:26] <mtn_> i try with openshot, gnome and sm player
[18:26] <OerHeks> mtn_, normally a movie contains multiple .dat files, try opening that folder from vlc, not just the file.
[18:26] <patsToms> EriC^^, hey, I did gdisk and it asks me for what I want to use - MBR or GPT
[18:27] <it_> it@it:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[18:27] <it_> it@it:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt
[18:27] <it_> mount: /dev/sda7 already mounted or /mnt busy
[18:27] <it_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda7 is already mounted on /mnt
[18:27] <it_> it@it:~$
[18:27] <EriC^^> patsToms: ok, what does it say at the top? protective mbr found?
[18:27] <EriC^^> or mbr found and that it's not gpt and which to use?
[18:27] <EriC^^> it_: ok, type cat /mnt/etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:28] <NYTimes> cyphix i'm sorry to say
[18:28] <NYTimes> but it does not
[18:28] <NYTimes> work
[18:28] <NYTimes> I'm goin mad here
[18:29] <patsToms> EriC^^, There is info: MBR: MBR only, GPT: present
[18:29] <patsToms> EriC^^, but there is no such text as you said
[18:29] <mtn_> Türkçe bilen var mı?
[18:29] <abraham_> buenas
[18:29] <daftykins> mtn_: english only.
[18:29] <NYTimes> Pici thx but I think I'll just go and shoot meself in d head
[18:29] <daftykins> !es
[18:30] <imnotarobot> mtn_: try #ubuntu-tr
[18:30] <EriC^^> patsToms: ok, i think it's stray gpt, type sudo fixparts /dev/sda
[18:30] <imnotarobot> !tr
[18:30] <EriC^^> if it mentions its mbr and finds stray gpt say to clear them
[18:30] <EriC^^> patsToms:
[18:31] <mtn_> vlc i set up now but dont open vlc window ?
[18:31] <patsToms> EriC^^, http://vpaste.net/MZuRP
[18:31] <Wichtelmann> deutscher chanel?
[18:31] <daftykins> Wichtelmann: -de
[18:31] <patsToms> EriC^^, so I want to delete those signatures as said there?
[18:31]  * mtn_ slaps acer__ around a bit with a large fishbot
[18:31] <EriC^^> patsToms: yeah
[18:31] <patsToms> EriC^^, ok
[18:31] <Cipher45> If I'm running a vps on openvz does that mean I never have to reboot because I can't do kernal updates?
[18:31] <Wichtelmann> have a problem with ubuntu
[18:32] <imnotarobot> !de
[18:32] <Wichtelmann> thanks!
[18:32] <artois> Cipher45: no, it means your system is virtualized
[18:32] <artois> Cipher45: so probably it means you don't have control over the hardware, which you knew already
[18:32] <super_cntrlr> ./genymotion
[18:32] <artois> Cipher45: you can however avoid rebooting almost always, though it's a truly unnecessary goal
[18:33] <motaka2> I made the keyboard work , but know ubuntu stops on logo without having the circles blinking
[18:33] <cyphix> NYTimes: maybe try with another emulator (terminator is nice).
[18:33] <patsToms> EriC^^, http://vpaste.netlvdxt
[18:33] <Cipher45> artois, but I don't run my own kernal with openvz. Since kernal updates are the only ones that need reboots I never have to reboot?
[18:33] <patsToms> EriC^^, http://vpaste.net/lvdxt
[18:33] <patsToms> EriC^^, it says that something can cause problems
[18:33] <patsToms> you know something about this?
[18:33] <EriC^^> patsToms: press w
[18:34] <akik> !fi
[18:34] <patsToms> EriC^^, it says that it will write existing partitions
[18:34] <EriC^^> no problem
[18:34] <patsToms> can I go wrong with my already installed windows 10?
[18:34] <NYTimes> cyphix yeah but tmux is so old-school to me
[18:34] <patsToms> EriC^^, ok
[18:34] <it_> http://termbin.com/p41r
[18:34] <artois> Cipher45: kernel updates are certainly the primary reason to reboot, yes
[18:34] <cyphix> NYTimes: tmux is not related to your problem
[18:34] <bhavesh> I am trying to copy and paste special characters in Ubuntu Terminal http://pasteboard.co/1FBaCYPv.png
[18:34] <bhavesh> but the Square isn
[18:34] <NYTimes> cyphix ok
[18:34] <artois> Cipher45: though technically you don't have to reboot to update a kernel
[18:34] <bhavesh> the square isn'
[18:34] <TurkiyeMehmet> turkiyeden kimse varmi?
[18:35] <EriC^^> it_: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[18:35] <EriC^^> type the whole line
[18:35] <bhavesh> the Square isn't getting copied properly
[18:35] <NYTimes> cyphix what is then ?
[18:35] <cyphix> NYTimes: Apparently, your terminal emulator.
[18:35] <Cipher45> artois, Okay cool. Thanks for the help!
[18:35] <it_> what should i type now
[18:36] <imnotarobot> it_:any output?
[18:36] <cyphix> NYTimes: If you install terminator, or xterm (lighter) and it works, then it was your former term emulator that had a problem. If it still does not work, that it's something else. But since you can't select/copy properly even outside of tmux, it's not related to tmux.
[18:36] <artois> it_: apt-get moo
[18:36] <EriC^^> it_: did you type the for i in /dev ... line?
[18:36] <mtn_> Thanks for all but i cant open vlc window and dont give any crash log
[18:37] <it_> i dont understand you
[18:37] <EriC^^> it_: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[18:37] <it_> what should i type
[18:37] <EriC^^> type the above whole line from for i til done
[18:37] <artois> bhavesh: why are you typing that at all?
[18:38] <mh_2007_1> LIST
[18:38] <it_> it@it:~$ for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[18:38] <it_> it@it:~$
[18:38] <NYTimes> cyphix true but why can I paste and not copy ?
[18:38] <bhavesh> artois: just for a school project
[18:38] <imnotarobot> it_:type chroot /mnt/
[18:39] <bhavesh> artois: but saving the output to a file and then reading works
[18:39] <imnotarobot> nope
[18:39] <it_> it@it:~$ chroot /mnt/
[18:39] <it_> chroot: cannot change root directory to /mnt/: Operation not permitted
[18:39] <it_> it@it:~$
[18:39] <EriC^^> it_: type sudo chroot /mnt
[18:39] <imnotarobot> Eric^^: the line maybe is not correct
[18:39] <cyphix> NYTimes: Maybe your current terminal has a special keybinding for it, and you didn't find it. I don't know. I admit it's weird the middle button doesn't work
[18:40] <EriC^^> imnotarobot: nah it needs sudo to chroot
[18:40] <imnotarobot> Eric^^: you forgot a slash after /mnt : /mnt/${i}
[18:40] <EriC^^> imnotarobot: no it's included in the for i list /dev /.. /..
[18:40] <it_> it@it:~$ sudo chroot /mnt
[18:40] <it_> root@it:/#
[18:40] <imnotarobot> Eric^^: he has /mntdev now, looks like that, nope?
[18:40] <EriC^^> it_: ok, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[18:41] <imnotarobot> Eric^^: Splendid.
[18:41] <NYTimes> cyphix the middle button work for selecting not copying
[18:41] <NYTimes> *works
[18:41] <shark127> Hey! Currently running win10 and ubuntu 14.04. Whats the best way to do a completely clean instal of ubuntu 15.10 + windows 10? (want to reinstall win too) thanks!
[18:41] <it_> root@it:/# grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[18:41] <it_> Could not find platform independent libraries <prefix>
[18:41] <it_> Could not find platform dependent libraries <exec_prefix>
[18:41] <it_> Consider setting $PYTHONHOME to <prefix>[:<exec_prefix>]
[18:41] <it_> Fatal Python error: Py_Initialize: Unable to get the locale encoding
[18:41] <it_> ImportError: No module named 'encodings'
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | shark127
[18:42] <EriC^^> it_: use paste.ubuntu.com for pastes
[18:42] <lotuspsychje> !uefi > shark127 also read this
[18:42] <imnotarobot> shark127: go first for windows, then for ubuntu.
[18:42] <mtn_> http://pasteboard.co/1FBDauIt.png
[18:42] <cyphix> NYTimes: The middle button only serves to paste, not to copy. When you select some text, anywhere inside any program running on your system, it gets copied inside a clipboad that can be pasted with the middle mouse.
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> shark127: or make your life real easy and single install ubuntu, loose win once and for good :p
[18:43] <cyphix> NYTimes: Try to select some text on a webpage, and click the middle button inside a text file.
[18:43] <imnotarobot> Eric^^: looks like it_ has to do ldconfig?
[18:43] <NYTimes> cyphix ok
[18:43] <shark127> Lotuspsycje: i would if i could, need adobe products though...
[18:44] <shark127> sorry miss spelled your name
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> shark127: what kind of adobe products?
[18:44] <shark127> graphic ones, illustrator, photoshop, indesign, aftereffects
[18:44] <NYTimes> cyphix it worked
[18:44] <cyphix> NYTimes: Good.
[18:45] <Pici> !helpersnack | cyphix
[18:45] <EriC^^> it_: is this ubuntu or mint?
[18:45] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | shark127 some adobe products here
[18:45] <NYTimes> ubottu don't be silly
[18:45] <it_> xubuntu
[18:45] <cyphix> Now try the same (select a piece of text from a webpage) and try to copy it with the middle button inside a terminal.
[18:45] <linocisco> hi , how to download a book from github? i have github link
[18:46] <cyphix> Pici: Thanks dear :)
[18:46] <NYTimes> cyphix but not in my term
[18:46] <it_> xubuntu
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> shark127  yes, it's a pity adobe and macromedia don't port their product to linux
[18:47] <MonkeyDust> products*
[18:47] <EriC^^> it_: hmm, it's odd
[18:47] <shark127> lotuspsychje thanks for the link, but i can only find photoshop
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> shark127: ok see what MonkeyDust said
[18:48] <shark127> MonkeyDust: so is the only option to have windows on dualboot? Ar can you somehow run adobe products on linux through wine or some other methot?
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> shark127: alternative you can use gimp
[18:49] <cyphix> NYTimes: Does 'Shift-insert' work to paste?
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> shark127: virtualbox perhaps?
[18:49] <mtn_> http://pasteboard.co/1FC1nIFO.png help how open .dat video " sorry for my bad  english but Turks dont talk :( "
[18:50] <amitd26> hi bipul
[18:50] <bipul> hi amitd26
[18:50] <NYTimes> cyphix yes
[18:50] <badbodh> EriC^^, if he has already mounted his root on /mnt, you don't need chroot to install grub. try sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot (i can;t remember if he had separate boot partition) followed by chroot and update-grub
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> mtn_: maybe the #videolan guys know howto?
[18:50] <cyphix> NYTimes: Ok, so that might be a solution for now
[18:51] <it_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12972346/
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> shark127  see up, what lotuspsychje/ubottu suggested
[18:51] <cyphix> NYTimes: maybe have a look at this : https://askubuntu.com/questions/302077/how-to-enable-paste-in-terminal-with-middle-mouse-button
[18:51] <NYTimes> cyphix nope cause I want to copy from my term
[18:51] <NYTimes> cyphix thx
[18:52] <EriC^^> badbodh: good idea
[18:52] <badbodh> it_, we need the output you earlier flooded in this channel. not ldconfig blah blah
[18:52] <cyphix> NYTimes: Try 'ctrl-insert' to copy then, and 'shift-insert' to paste.
[18:52] <shark127> Alright, thanks for the support! I'm sure i'll be back. bye!
[18:52] <linocisco> hi , how to download a book from github? i have github link
[18:53] <it_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12972370/
[18:53] <artois> linocisco: git clone URI
[18:53] <Pici> linocisco: click on the 'download this as a zip' button that appears on the right side of the page.
[18:53] <cyphix> NYTimes: And try to use another terminal emulator to see if the problem comes for your current one
[18:53] <EriC^^> it_: try typing exit, then type sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^, MonkeyDust come to discuss i have an important message
[18:54] <linocisco> artois, Pici . let me try
[18:55] <badbodh> it_, do what EriC^^ said. off topic, did you upgrade python using source code at some point ?
[18:56] <aeliton> q
[18:56] <aeliton> \q
[18:56] <it_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12972418/
[18:56] <Aiko_> ?
[18:56] <ddr_mobile> Hi again all. I just reinstalled kubuntu, after hosing my previous install, but note this one won't boot to login manager. It just freezes with the word "kubuntu" on screen.
[18:57] <ddr_mobile> I guess I could install it again... :p
[18:57] <badbodh> it_, then do  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[18:58] <it_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12972442/
[18:59] <badbodh> it_, "Installation finished. No error reported." should ring a bell :D
[18:59] <EriC^^> which ubuntu is this?
[18:59] <EriC^^> ext3 and i think that's grub legacy?
[19:00] <badbodh> it_, now you can 'chroot /mnt' and run "sudo update-initramfs -u && update-grub" within the chroot
[19:00] <it_> it is the usb now
[19:01] <it_> not hda because i typed exit like you said
[19:01] <badbodh> yes it is. now run 'chroot /mnt' to get back into hda
[19:02] <it_> with sudo you mean
[19:02] <badbodh> yes
[19:03] <it_> and then
[19:03] <amriunix> hi, beginner question : full format is it dangerous ??
[19:03] <Bashing-om> !repository
[19:04] <OerHeks> amriunix, no.
[19:04] <badbodh> EriC^^, maybe the --root-directory thingy works on newer grub too. trusty has grub2 right? i remember doing this.
[19:04] <it_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12972496/
[19:04] <Aiko_> what are pros and cons of installing get Ubuntu over Windows 10?
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> Aiko_: only pro's
[19:05] <badbodh> it_, bro do you even read? i said "sudo update-initramfs -u && update-grub"
[19:05] <amriunix> OerHeks: but it take a long time !, so i thought some bad things can happen to the drive !
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> Aiko_: your system will be fast,stable and secure and be able to use your machine properly
[19:05] <daftykins> Aiko_: lotuspsychje has a slightly bias opinion ;) it is not up to us to tell you what OS to run - this is for you to decide.
[19:05] <Aiko_> OK
[19:05] <daftykins> Aiko_: so try ubuntu from a flash drive first maybe.
[19:06] <Aiko_> simpler question does Ubuntu have some sort of ICS like Windows?
[19:06] <Aiko_> Internet connection sharing service
[19:06] <EriC^^> badbodh: yeah it works, the device.map made me think its grub legacy
[19:06] <it_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12972512/
[19:06] <EriC^^> i think grub2 doesn't use that anymore, could be wrong
[19:07] <badbodh> it_, silly me you are chroot. no need to 'sudo'
[19:07] <badbodh> just run that without sudo
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> Aiko_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[19:07] <badbodh> "I am Chroot !"
[19:08] <EriC^^> it should still work though, this install is pretty bizarre
[19:08] <EriC^^> it_: which ubuntu version is this?
[19:08] <it_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12972533/
[19:08] <loa> where i can get sources for mainline kernel builds?
[19:08] <EriC^^> it_: type cat /etc/issue
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | loa
[19:08] <loa> i need source code for 4.3 version
[19:09] <loa> lotuspsychje, i am from that article, there are no answer for my question.
[19:09] <it_> root@it:/# cat /etc/issue
[19:09] <it_> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[19:09] <it_> root@it:/#
[19:09] <loa> i want rebuild 4.3 kernel with my patch.
[19:09] <EriC^^> it_: ok
[19:10] <akik> loa: ftp://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v4.x/testing
[19:10] <EriC^^> it_: try locate python | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:10] <badbodh> EriC^^, it looks like he messed with python. i come across folks who upgraded python from source code in mint channels. that "could not find prefix" thingy looks like it
[19:10] <EriC^^> i wonder if we can set PYTHONHOME to something so it works
[19:10] <kleinerdrache> which package must be installed to make bash showing me the package for a command if it is not installed yet?
[19:10] <kleinerdrache> and where is add-apt-repository ?
[19:10] <jwilber1997> hola chavales que tal
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> !es | jwilber1997
[19:11] <EriC^^> badbodh: yeah, maybe if we set it to /usr/local/python or something it will work?
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> kleinerdrache: is it apt-cache search packagename you seek?
[19:12] <badbodh> it_, did you upgrade python using source code from website earlier ?
[19:12] <EriC^^> it_: try cat /etc/environment | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:12] <it_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12972774/
[19:12] <EriC^^> maybe that's where it usually sets it
[19:13] <badbodh> depends on where it was installed, and whether it replaced existing python 2.xx or is installed alongside
[19:13] <it_> http://termbin.com/8sbq
[19:13] <kleinerdrache> lotuspsychje: i dont think so... i had a feature on ubuntu on any machine in the past, where i put something in the xterm, like 'foobar' and its telling me. 'foobar is not installed, its in the package foobar-tools, try apt-get install foobar-tools to install it' or something like that
[19:13] <ubuntu-mate> Hi guys, I am on live cd of mate trying to use gparted to allocate more space to linux from windows 7, but it wont let me reduce the partition below the 340gb that it currently is. I have 160gb of free space. so struggling. anyone have any ideas?
[19:14] <badbodh> EriC^^, btw i can;t even code a hello world, so my knowledge is non-existent regarding prefix thingies :P
[19:14] <EriC^^> badbodh: i've pretty much never set anything like that too
[19:14] <swenzel> I'm still trying to deal with https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=61651 the patch mentioned there still seems to be applicable to kernel 4.2 sources... however I have no idea how to get the kernel to compile... anyone willing to guide me through compiling and installing it?
[19:15]  * EriC^^ googles away..
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> kleinerdrache: if the packagename exist, ubuntu itself gives you sugestion to install existing package, try it with 'zoo' in terminal
[19:16] <badbodh> it_, run 'which python' and 'python -V' in your chroot shell, share output here (no need to pastebin)
[19:16] <Aiko_> is it really difficult to build your own kernel?
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> !kernel | Aiko_
[19:17] <it_> root@it:/# which python
[19:17] <it_> /usr/bin/python
[19:17] <it_> root@it:/# python -V
[19:17] <it_> Python 2.7.6
[19:17] <it_> root@it:/#
[19:17] <cyphix> NYTimes: Any luck?
[19:17] <kleinerdrache> lotuspsychje: zoo: command not found.
[19:17] <kleinerdrache> lotuspsychje: i think i'm missing a package for that
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> kleinerdrache: wich ubuntu version?
[19:18] <it_> will it work if i upgrade the dist
[19:18] <lotuspsychje> kleinerdrache: mine says, zoo not found you can sudo apt-get install zoo
[19:18] <Aiko_> I was thinking about kernel for Android
[19:18] <it_> or something
[19:19] <Aiko_> to build kernel or Android rom I would need to use Linux
[19:19] <Aiko_> probably Ubuntu
[19:19] <EriC^^> it_: try grep -r PYTHONHOME /etc | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:19] <EriC^^> it_: it used to work from the install right?
[19:20] <Seveas> EriC^^: PYTHONHOME isn't a thing
[19:20] <it_> root@it:/# grep -r PYTHONHOME /etc | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:20] <it_> Use netcat.
[19:20] <it_> root@it:/#
[19:20] <it_> yes
[19:20] <it_> and very well
[19:20] <EriC^^> Seveas: it's complaining about it from the chroot
[19:20] <EriC^^> it_: try PYTHONHOME=/usr/local
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> Aiko_: maybe the #android guys can point you to right direction
[19:21] <EriC^^> just a guess
[19:21] <badbodh> EriC^^, && export PYTHONHOME ?
[19:21] <loa> akik, i need apply patch from there to archive?
[19:22] <daftykins> it_: please stop pasting to IRC.
[19:22] <akik> Aiko_: try http://www.xda-developers.com/
[19:22] <EriC^^> badbodh: yeah, sure
[19:22] <Seveas> EriC^^: I stand corrected. Never seen it before though :)
[19:22] <it_> root@it:/# PYTHONHOME=/usr/local
[19:22] <it_> root@it:/# PYTHONHOME=/usr/local
[19:22] <it_> root@it:/#
[19:23] <EriC^^> Seveas: :)
[19:23] <kleinerdrache> lotuspsychje: 14.04 server minimal edition
[19:23] <it_> will it work if i upgrade the dist
[19:23] <it_> or something
[19:23] <akik> loa: i don't remember any more. i haven't compiled a kernel in years
[19:24] <akik> loa: i think the patch files were used if you had an older archive and wanted to patch it to a newer version
[19:24] <it_> i need to go
[19:24] <badbodh> it_, as of right now you can;t even update your grub. better stop thinking about upgrading the whole damn distro
[19:24] <badbodh> baby steps
[19:24] <Seveas> it_: setting PYTHONHOME to /usr/local sounds like a Really Bad Thing, that'll mess up any system python using program. It should also not be needed as a python binary is able to find its own home. What are you doing?
[19:24] <loa> akik, there are patched kernel sources... but how i can build kernel debs from this?
[19:25] <it_> back in 30 min
[19:25] <badbodh> Seveas, but it's not permanent, so won;t be there after reboot. no harm re-borking a borked system
[19:25] <badbodh> :P
[19:26] <akik> loa: those are the sources you wanted. try make-kpkg
[19:26] <Seveas> badbodh: I'd rather fix a borked system, but maybe I'm odd :P
[19:26] <Peyam> hi
[19:26] <SeerKan> any way to set umask for nginx ? can't seem to find any solution, all google results talk about php-fpm and I'm using ruby/passenger and passenger takes settings like that from the webserver
[19:26] <Seveas> hello Peyam, how may we help?
[19:26] <Peyam> hi
[19:27] <Peyam> my Xubuntu gets disconnecting on good wifi. What do I have to do?
[19:27] <NYTimes> cyphix ok now I can select copy paste in my term but not in tmux
[19:27] <Seveas> Peyam: find out why it's disconnecting. Looking through /var/log/syslog should help
[19:28] <badbodh> EriC^^, he has obviously done a lot more than he's telling. i've used trusty for 500 years and messed up grub a 1000 times. (numbers may have been exaggerated here)
[19:28] <EriC^^> badbodh: hehe, yeah
[19:28] <Peyam> Seveas, it doesnt say its disconnected it is just stop working and I have to disconnect and connect again
[19:28] <badbodh> easy peasy fix, grub-install - chroot - update-initramfs and grub
[19:29] <Seveas> Peyam: when that happens, can you ping your router?
[19:29] <Seveas> apparently not...
[19:29] <cyphix> NYTimes: Mhmmm, weird. What can't you do? Select, or copy selected text?
[19:31] <badbodh> Seveas, you are so odd, even number 13 now thinks it's a power of 2.
[19:31] <NYTimes> cyphix https://awhan.wordpress.com/2010/06/20/copy-paste-in-tmux/
[19:32] <NYTimes> but I'm stuck at step 2) lol
[19:32] <cyphix> NYTimes: No no, forget this. It's if you want to navigate inside your tmux session. You can learn it later, but it's not related to your current issue.
[19:33] <cyphix> NYTimes: So now, inside a terminal window, without tmux, how do you copy > paste text?
[19:33] <Seveas> badbodh: it is. It's 2 ^ 3.70044
[19:35] <NYTimes> cyphix: ctrl shift [cv]
[19:35] <cyphix> NYTimes: Ok. Did you install another terminal emulator? Try xterm, it's light.
[19:36] <akik> hihi ctrl+b vs. screen's ctrl+a
[19:36] <NYTimes> cyphix: i'll try it right now
[19:36] <NYTimes> akik ?
[19:36] <akik> NYTimes: screen has the same copy functionality with ctrl+a [ ]
[19:37] <NYTimes> ok
[19:37] <akik> NYTimes: are you unable to press ctrl+space to begin selecting text?
[19:38] <NYTimes> akik yes
[19:38] <cyphix> akik: Ctrl-shift c/v still works with screen
[19:38] <akik> cyphix: it's not the same as ctrl+a [ ]
[19:39] <akik> cyphix: you can go back in the screen copy buffer with that
[19:40] <cyphix> akik: Right, but there, even the select -> middle button click does not work. We try to figure out why
[19:41] <akik> cyphix: there was a xorg configuration setting for the middle button
[19:41] <cyphix> akik: Ah ok. It always worked out of the box for me on any distro.
[19:42] <akik> cyphix: Emulate3Buttons
[19:43] <plaga> YEA
[19:43] <cyphix> akik: I thought it was not needed anymore. NYTimes should try it then.
[19:43] <akik> well that was the wrong one. that makes it so that you can use left+right mouse button ton emulate the middle button
[19:44] <cyphix> akik: so it applies if you don't have a middle button only, isn't it?
[19:44] <akik> cyphix: yes
[19:45] <cyphix> akik: but NYTimes does have one. And I remember it works for him outside a terminal. So it's not the problem apparently
[19:45] <akik> could you check with xev that the middle button is sending the right event?
[19:48] <NYTimes> cyphix: I finally made it work
[19:48] <cyphix> NYTimes: Woot! How did you achieve it?
[19:48] <NYTimes> cyphix: I thank you very much
[19:48] <cyphix> NYTimes: No problem!
[19:48] <NYTimes> cyphix: my bind key is w
[19:49] <cyphix> NYTimes: That was it... Ok, well done!
[19:51] <NYTimes> so ctrl w + [ to go copy-mode then space to select then enter to copy then ctrl w + ] to paste
[19:52] <NYTimes> cyphix: or middle-click to select then enter to copy then ctrl w + ] to paste
[19:52] <NYTimes> cyphix: ctrl w + [ to go copy-mode then space to select then enter to copy then ctrl w + ] to paste
[19:54] <NYTimes> cyphix: thank u for ur fortitude
[19:59] <cyphix> NYTimes: glad you made it!
[20:00] <awestwell> freenode.net
[20:01] <a4paper> During install with custom partitoning, I'm getting the "Force UEFI installation?" dialog
[20:01] <a4paper> but clicking on the dialog buttons doesn't do anything
[20:01] <a4paper> Is there a way around this?
[20:02] <anonymous> Afternoon
[20:03] <Guest27234> Looking for back-end support on a SQL job
[20:03] <Guest27234> Anyone got the time?
[20:03] <Guest27234> change
[20:03] <Guest27234> 30803.03t0p8u.340o803 coords.
[20:04] <Guest27234> ... at the UDP entry...
[20:04] <ioria> a4paper, dual boot with windows ?
[20:04] <Guest27234> \skyh
[20:05] <Guest27234> Windows just doesn't cut it for me anymore after 16 years.
[20:05] <Guest27234> I've had it.
[20:05] <a4paper> ioria: Installing in VirtualBox with EFI enabled
[20:05] <Guest27234> LORAN PAN PAN PAN
[20:05] <Guest27234> .......>>>>>> here... ????
[20:06] <ioria> a4paper, windows is in uefi gpt ?
[20:06] <Guest27234> Follow the VOR to 345 and cross paths with VOR 23
[20:06] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Guest27234
[20:06] <Pici> Guest27234: Do you have an Ubuntu related question to ask?
[20:06] <ioria> a4paper, or msdos  ?
[20:06] <Guest27234> We
[20:07] <Guest27234> are not limited to ubuntu topics here..
[20:07] <Guest27234> Says who?
[20:07] <Pici> Guest27234: yes you are. This is #ubuntu
[20:07] <Pici> !guidelines
[20:07] <Guest27234> .. That right?
[20:07] <Guest27234> Why is it called UBUNTU? Father>?
[20:07] <a4paper> ioria: I'm installing 15.10 Desktop in VirtualBox with EFI enabled. No Windows involved
[20:07] <ioria> a4paper, oh...
[20:07] <Guest27234> PICI.... you know what you can do with your chat. Have a godly day.
[20:07] <Guest27234> or ungodly for that matter.
[20:08] <Guest27234> ca PICI?
[20:08] <atrius`> short of rebooting, is there a way to get upstart to forget the status of a process? i've got a job saying 'stop/killed, process PID' and the pid doesn't exist
[20:08] <Guest27234> I have an ubuntu question.. what are you doing here?
[20:08] <Guest27234> Uncheck hidden PIDS atrius
[20:08] <Guest27234> Legacy issues from windoze.
[20:09] <lotuspsychje> Guest27234: stop this nonsense please
[20:09] <Guest27234> I will snuff my fish if you don't stop.
[20:09] <teward> !ops | Guest27234 is being disruptive
[20:09] <teward> well there we go :)
[20:09] <teward> (didn't see you there, Pici)
[20:09] <teward> sorry for the op ping :)
[20:10] <hjrdis420> hello
[20:11] <thebwt> Hello
[20:12] <ioria> a4paper, well, with  a custom partitioning scheme, usually the problem is the EFI partition
[20:12] <Schnabeltierchen> Some notebooks have hotkeys to start the calculator, browser and stuff directly. Any way to use them in Ubuntu?
[20:13] <leo1986> hi all, someone can help me to install Odoo on ubuntu 14.04 desktop?
[20:15] <leo1986> @Schnabeltierchen wich model of pc?
[20:16] <leo1986> acer? hp? ibm?
[20:17] <Schnabeltierchen> Dunno, just model WB-B55, manufacturerlabel was removed...
[20:18] <daftykins> leo1986: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2014/09/how-to-install-openerp-odoo-8-on-ubuntu-server-14-04-lts/
[20:18] <Pici> Schnabeltierchen: As long as those keypresses are registed in xev, you should be able to use them as shortcuts... although I don't really use Ubuntu desktop so I'm not sure what the control panel item is called.
[20:19] <Schnabeltierchen> xev just reacts to 1 of 3 keys -_-
[20:23] <leo1986> daftykins: thanks but the step one is "Build a server" and I want to try it on a desktop installation before trying tou build a vm
[20:24] <daftykins> leo1986: doesn't matter.
[20:24] <daftykins> just try it
[20:24] <leo1986> you think that will work anyway?
[20:25] <swenzel> I just built kernel 4.2 but I'm not sure if I did successfully add a local version modifier... would it be visible in the name of the produced .deb files?
[20:27] <daftykins> leo1986: yes, try it
[20:29] <leo1986> daftykins: doesn't work
[20:29] <leo1986> i cannot install .deb package
[20:29] <daftykins> leo1986: normally when people want help, they tell us what they did and what happened... "doesn't work" is useless.
[20:29] <daftykins> leo1986: so if you want help, be more descriptive.
[20:30] <daftykins> sure you can install a .deb
[20:30] <deepdeep> i'm trying to do-release-upgrade and it's failing because it can't find utopic here: http://91.189.92.200/ubuntu/dists/
[20:30] <deepdeep> and indeed, utopic is not there.
[20:30] <daftykins> deepdeep: that's because it's gone EOL
[20:30] <daftykins> !eol | deepdeep follow the last link
[20:31] <deepdeep> i'm trying to upgrade trusty
[20:31] <deepdeep> it wants to first go to utopic
[20:31] <daftykins> deepdeep: what do you want to be using?
[20:31] <leo1986> I'm sorry, a normal install by ubuntu software center it doesn't works (and I don't know why) so I've tryed with the terminal
[20:31] <deepdeep> i haven't decided
[20:31] <deepdeep> something newer
[20:31] <daftykins> leo1986: you didn't read enough of the guide, go back and read again.
[20:32] <daftykins> deepdeep: well trusty is LTS so i'd recommend staying there, actually.
[20:32] <deepdeep> obv
[20:32] <deepdeep> trusty is four years old
[20:32] <deepdeep> i want updated software
[20:33] <Pici> deepdeep: trusty is a little less than 2 years old.
[20:33] <daftykins> deepdeep: for what reason?
[20:33] <daftykins> 14.04 came out April 2014 ;)
[20:34] <deepdeep> i want a new car
[20:34] <deepdeep> why? this one has wheels
[20:34] <deepdeep> you don't need a new car, you current one has wheels
[20:34] <deepdeep> and a gas pedal
[20:34] <deepdeep> but newer cars have better wheels and gas pedals
[20:34] <deepdeep> so? what's wrong with yours?
[20:34] <daftykins> you're not being very sensible with these comments.
[20:34] <deepdeep> they are out of date
[20:34] <deepdeep> they are no longer state of the art
[20:34] <deepdeep> these wheels don't take corners like the new ones can
[20:35] <deepdeep> you aren't being very sensible, your car has wheels
[20:35] <newbie|2> Just upgraded to 15.10.  I have a Brother MFC6490CW that worked with 15.04, but doesn't seem to work with 15.10.  Xsane talked of a "invalid argument".  Anyone wanna help me?
[20:35] <Pici> deepdeep: Please drop the attitude.  If you want to upgrade to a supported release you'll need to upgrade to 14.10, then to 15.04 then to 15.10.
[20:35] <deepdeep> true, but they aren't state of the art anymore
[20:35] <daftykins> your commentary is ridiculous to be quite frank.
[20:35] <deepdeep> but the new wheels haven't really been tested yet
[20:35] <Pici> deepdeep: OR, you can wait until April  and upgrade directly to 16.04 OR you can reinstall 15.10.
[20:35] <deepdeep> well someone has to test them
[20:35] <Pici> deepdeep: drop it.
[20:35] <daftykins> ignored.
[20:35] <deepdeep> early adopters drive change in the world don't they?
[20:36] <evexus> Hi, just installed Ubuntu-gnome, Is there any way I can change the alt-tab switcher so that the currently selected window moves to the foreground.
[20:36] <deepdeep> you make too much sense
[20:36] <deepdeep> i know.
[20:36] <evexus> I already changed it so the applications are not grouped
[20:41] <pesari> evexus: you can probablynchange it with ccsm (compiz-config-settings-manager)
[20:42] <pesari> evexus: you may need to install a package calles compoz-plugins or something like that
[20:43] <zbouby2> hi all
[20:44] <daftykins> hello
[20:46] <willies952002> could someone pleace explain to me what is wrong here: https://gist.github.com/willies952002/f5aa1dd66f334557ab22
[20:47] <willies952002> *please
[20:47] <daftykins> you are using a dead release.
[20:47] <daftykins> !eol | willies952002
[20:47] <willies952002> I just installed it .-.
[20:47] <daftykins> then you had an old version
[20:47] <willies952002> also.. how am I supposed to update if I can't even update apt
[20:47] <willies952002> and yes, I know it's an old version
[20:48] <daftykins> then why didn't you download another?
[20:48] <willies952002> I'm out of disks
[20:48] <daftykins> far quicker to get a supported version and start again
[20:48] <daftykins> no flash drive?
[20:48] <willies952002> none available
[20:48] <willies952002> also... no transport to any stores
[20:48] <daftykins> willies952002: follow the EOLUpgrades link above
[20:51] <willies952002> okay... I'll just go back to my other partition
[20:53] <dmor> Hi guys, how are you? I've already visited this great channel and ask this question, but I think I didn't fully understand the answer. Sorry for asking again: I need to commit a network-based install of specific version which is 14.04.1. It's for appliance of a company I'm working with. Using Ubuntu mirrors over the net via the installer/preseed, w
[20:53] <dmor> ill always get the latest version, e.g. 14.04.3. What can be done in-order to install 14.04.1?
[20:54] <dmor> (I wanted to go with the "use the 14.04.1 ISO" in-order to create local repo and use it, but it's not working "so well")
[20:54] <kubast2> Which package suplies xsltproc ?
[20:54] <MonkeyDust> dmor  there's this http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/
[20:54] <drmagoo> After some upgrading I have an issue with my keyboard in grub. I cant enter any text/password for my encrypted lvm's. BUT ctrl+alt+del works to reboot the system (when looking at the password-box for Luks/lvm). anyone got any suggestion?
[20:54] <kubast2> I'm pretty much sure it's not libxml2-dev
[20:54] <ioria> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.0/
[20:54] <dmor> MonkeyDust - 10x. I've been there. How it's helps? it's contains ISOS, not the contents itself
[20:55] <ioria> sorry,  http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04.0/
[20:55] <MonkeyDust> http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/
[20:55] <daftykins> dmor: is it the 3.13 kernel you need, or what element?
[20:56] <dmor> You know what? before answering, I want to make sure I understand and don't waste your time.
[20:56] <dmor> Does the difference between 14.04.1 and 14.04.3 is newer Kernel, newer X and security patches?
[20:56] <dmor> Is it true to say that?
[20:56] <daftykins> yes
[20:56] <MARCIN> Hi, I want to boot into Ubunto on my pc, but there comes the login screen instead of the desktop?
[20:56] <dmor> OK. The installation is very "sensitive" because it's for a client of mine which installs custom-made appliances.
[20:57] <daftykins> 14.04.3 media would come with the 3.19 kernel and newer X from vivid (15.04)
[20:57] <daftykins> however, 14.04.0 and 14.04.1 would install with the 3.13 kernel and can still be dist-upgrade'd to be named 14.04.3 - yet still use the 3.13 kernel and original X
[20:57] <dmor> There's conding/QA phases and switching from 14.04.1 to 14.04.3 is currently problematic. I've installed Foreman in-order to commit network installs and I must find the way to install 14.04.1
[20:58] <daftykins> wasn't it over a week ago that you asked last?
[20:58] <dmor> I've told it on the first sentence ;-). I don't sure I understood the terms and differnces.
[20:59] <daftykins> dmor: well here's your plan of action: go and install 14.04.0 media on a test system, test the product - now dist-upgrade so it's 100% up to date, then test again.
[20:59] <dmor> I must find a solution that invloves 14.04.1 and it's versions, not 14.04.3. Google doesn't have a lot to say about it so I'm trying to understand if it's doable or not. It's must be per my own understanding. There are a lot of companies uses specific Ubuntu version, isn't it?
[20:59] <DammitJim> when does ubuntu install tomcat7's /usr/share folder?
[20:59] <DammitJim> I deleted the folder, then purged tomcat7 but the folder isn't there :O(
[21:00] <daftykins> because purge removes, it doesn't reinstall.
[21:00] <dmor> daftykins - 10x. So it's the same answer again ;-) - use the newest version. What will happen if every two weeks (just kidding) a new version will appear?
[21:00] <dmor> You know if it's possible to use specific minor version or not? from the techincal perspective?
[21:00] <daftykins> dmor: then your company will have to learn how to develop properly
[21:01] <daftykins> you need to keep up to date.
[21:01] <MonkeyDust> dmor  the appliances should be able to be used in newer versions, otherwise it's poor coding
[21:01] <daftykins> dmor: but like i said, an updated 14.04.0 *or* 14.04.1 is totally different to a fresh installed 14.04.3
[21:01] <dmor> MonkeyDust - 10x.
[21:02] <dmor> daftykins - can you please explain or paste the explanation? I've missed it I guess....
[21:02] <MARCIN> Hi, I want to boot into Ubunto on my pc, but there comes the login screen instead of the desktop?
[21:02] <dmor> daftykins: You're talking about dist-upgrade?
[21:02] <k1l_> MARCIN: well, log in?
[21:03] <daftykins> dmor: no, you already know it - a 14.04.3 ISO comes with the newer kernel, whereas an updated 14.04.0 *or* 14.04.1 will not have that kernel installed if you dist-upgrade.
[21:03] <MARCIN> with which login data? I havent created an account, i just want to boot and test it
[21:03] <k1l_> MARCIN: how did you make the live usb?
[21:03] <dmor> Maybe I'm missing something about "dist-upgrade". What exactly is it doing? (it's OK to tell me go to Google ;-))
[21:03] <MARCIN> i dl the iso and then made the stick with rufus
[21:04] <daftykins> dmor: dist-upgrade installs all the latest packages, but it does not install a HWE stack (new kernel and X)
[21:04] <MARCIN> the stick works with my notebook, but not with my pc. Could it be a problem with my nvidia 750ti?
[21:04] <dmor> Oh! got it! ;-)
[21:04] <dmor> lsb_release -a will show what?
[21:04] <daftykins> dmor: so i say again, go and test your company's product with 14.04.1 updated fully :)
[21:04] <k1l_> MARCIN: try "ubuntu" and blank password.
[21:04] <daftykins> dmor: it will still say 14.04.3, but "uname -r" will show the 3.13 kernel
[21:04] <k1l_> MARCIN: but i dont know what rufus did wrong there
[21:05] <dmor> You mean full install 14.04.1 with apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade?
[21:05] <daftykins> !info linux-generic trusty | dmor
[21:05] <daftykins> dmor: yes
[21:05] <dmor> 10x a lot! but the mega question:
[21:05] <dmor> How can I install 14.04.1 from the network? it's exactly the problem i've started with ;-)
[21:05] <MARCIN> ok, and could you tell me, if i enter sudo apt-get update/upgrade, will only ubuntu itself be updated or also the software like office and stuff i downloaded manually?
[21:05] <daftykins> dmor: no idea, but just go and test a single system with the company product first, as otherwise there is no point spending hours getting a network install working
[21:06] <drmagoo> After some upgrading I have an issue with my keyboard in grub. I cant enter any text/password for my encrypted lvm's. BUT ctrl+alt+del works to reboot the system (when looking at the password-box for Luks/lvm). anyone got any suggestion?
[21:06] <daftykins> MARCIN: all of it
[21:06] <k1l_> MARCIN: all packages will be upgraded
[21:06] <dmor> daftykins - thanks a lot. I really appreciate your help. Do you any idea which IRC channel could provide answer for such internal-install-related question?
[21:06] <daftykins> MARCIN: yes the 750Ti must be booted with 'nomodeset' typically.
[21:06] <dmor> Because again - this is my MAIN question and I'm just trying to understand if it's possible or not...
[21:07] <MARCIN> ok, then i will try enter ubuntu and empty password
[21:07] <OerHeks> dmor, install over network, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Server_and_network_installations
[21:07] <daftykins> dmor: #ubuntu-server might have more experience with PXE installs, but probably here is fine - i just don't personally have any experience
[21:07] <I-am-Groot> Hello, So i installed Mobile Partner for Ubuntu a while ago and everything seemed okay except for the voice call feature which didnt work. I also noticed that whenever i open terminal and entered "sudo -s" It no longer asked for my password. Now am a little worried as to if it could compromise my security in anyway?
[21:07] <dmor> 10x a lot!
[21:07] <dmor> Your help is really apprecaited!
[21:07] <MARCIN> what is nomodeset and how do i do it? I only boot with uefi window, so how can i do it?
[21:08] <dmor> Thanks for your patience
[21:08] <OerHeks> sure there are more docs about pxe-boot
[21:08] <dmor> OerHeks - 10x alot. I'm afraid these links are great but don't answer my specific question.
[21:08] <dmor> (install 14.04.1 and not 14.04.3)
[21:08] <dmor> 10x.
[21:09] <OerHeks> dmor, err, install without updates, but why do you need that old state?
[21:09] <OerHeks> use pxe service with that iso, which is not downloadable i think.
[21:11] <I-am-Groot> .....
[21:12] <Bashing-om> dmor: For your reference: "lsb_release -a >> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS ; sysop@1404mini:~$ uname -r >> 3.13.0-66-generic ; dpkg -l xorg >>  1:7.7+1ubuntu amd64 . --- 14.04.1 install remains on the installed hardware stack when upgraded to 14.04.3 .
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> I-am-Groot  is that for ubuntu phone?
[21:12] <I-am-Groot> Nope... Ubuntu Desktop
[21:12] <DammitJim> no, I installed it again
[21:13] <DammitJim> and it didn't create that folder with the libraries
[21:13] <alfonso> que mal internet
[21:13] <daftykins> alfonso: english please
[21:13] <alfonso> bye bye
[21:13] <jijiro> Hello. When I start my machine, screen with question for password for encrypted disc appears (which is correct), but I cannot type password (also laptop doesn't respond to any pressed key). Before last use (when I started proprieatary ATI drivers) everything worked fine. How to fix this issue?
[21:14] <inteus> !es | alfonso
[21:14] <daftykins> jijiro: which fglrx? repo, or download?
[21:15] <inteus> jijiro: did you type password and hit enter? I don't think it shows anything while typing the password
[21:15] <MonkeyDust> I-am-Groot  what is the package name for that?
[21:15] <DDR> yayyy my computer starts again
[21:15] <DDR> All my stuff is here.
[21:16] <jijiro> daftykins: fglrx (not fglrx-update). Setuped in Device Manager.
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> DDR  and at NSA ;)
[21:16] <wileee> ;)
[21:16] <DDR> Drat, I was hoping they only got the stuff on my windows partition.
[21:17] <DDR> Thanks for your help yesterday, wileee.
[21:17] <wileee> sure, heh no problem
[21:18] <I-am-Groot> I dont believe it has .deb package or whatsoever. Here is a link http://askubuntu.com/questions/323396/how-to-install-huawei-mobile-partner-21-in-ubuntu
[21:20] <jijiro> Internet13: I did type password and pressed enter, nothing happens.
[21:20] <jijiro> inteus:  I did type password and pressed enter, nothing happens.
[21:20] <AndChat264089> Hi guys,  I'm running ubuntu14 on a laptop which froze 30mins ago. Since doing a hard reset I've been unable to get back into my system. The solutions posted online don't seem to work for me
[21:21] <jijiro> inteus: There is Ubuntu loading 4 Dots picture above password form, without animation.
[21:21] <bekks> AndChat264089: there is no "Ubuntu 14". There is Ubuntu 14.04 and 14.10 - and 14.10 is EOL. So which one are you using?
[21:21] <AndChat264089> Authority file that is mentioned on the forums don't exist.
[21:21] <AndChat264089> 14.04lts
[21:22] <daftykins> jijiro: try the other, likely AMD drivers and encryption do not go together.
[21:23] <jijiro> daftykins: What do You mean by "other"?
[21:24] <daftykins> jijiro: well as you said yourself, there is 'fglrx' and 'fglrx-updates'
[21:24] <AndChat264089> I currently in guest mode. Completely locked out of the main user area
[21:24] <jijiro> daftykins: Yes, but how can I change it without logging into my Ubuntu account?
[21:25] <daftykins> jijiro: recovery mode, boot to root shell
[21:25] <daftykins> !recovery
[21:27] <jijiro> daftykins: I would rather turn back to open dirvers,which worked- I don't have time to experiment with new driver now.
[21:27] <NYTimes> hello again I have 2 screens but it goes full screen on the wrong one
[21:28] <daftykins> jijiro: then the approach is exactly the same, boot to the root shell via recovery mode, then remount the disk read-write, then "sudo apt-get purge fglrx* "
[21:28] <jijiro> daftykins:  Thank You for support.
[21:29] <daftykins> no problem :)
[21:29] <drmagoo> After some upgrading I have an issue with my keyboard in grub. I cant enter any text/password for my encrypted lvm's. BUT ctrl+alt+del works to reboot the system (when looking at the password-box for Luks/lvm). anyone got any suggestion?
[21:29] <Bashing-om> AndChat264089: Run a file system check/repair ?? .. as a "hard reset" may have left the file system in an inconsistent state. At the login screen key combo ctl+alt+F1 to gain a console interface; can you login as "you" here ?
[21:30] <daftykins> drmagoo: are you sure it's just not showing you each keystroke being entered?
[21:31] <g105b> What are the scrollbars called in 15.10? They are not overlay-scrollbar any more. I want to force a window to use this new behaviour rather than the GTK-style they seem to have right now
[21:32] <drmagoo> daftykins: yes, quite sure. Nothing hapends after I hit 'enter'. it just hangs
[21:32] <creyc> anyone know if there even exists a decen ubuntu-compatible file manager with a webui?
[21:33] <daftykins> creyc: what are you hoping to achieve?
[21:34] <creyc> just managing a directory of users files, not the whole system. copying, moving, renaming, that sorta thing
[21:34] <AndChat264089> @bashing-om I can login using the console. One of the messages reads: signature not found in keyring. Suggest to try ecryptfs-mount-private
[21:35] <Renfried> I am trying to use gparted on a live CD to resize my windows partition, but it says it is unable to read the partition correctly, I went to windows and defraged it, ad chkdsk is finding no errors. But when I look in Gparted it has an exclamation mark on it. The only way I can see to do it is to remove the windows partition and ubuntu ones, and resize them then reinstall them manually. But ideally ws looking for an easier way. Any suggestions?
[21:35] <Renfried> (mate 15.10)
[21:35] <cuss> @drmagoo looks like your initram doesn't support LUKS/LVM. Get into chroot/recovery/livecd, mount your system root w/boot and do "update-initramfs -u"
[21:36] <NYTimes> here is my xrandr http://pastebin.com/6qw2HSzH
[21:36] <Bashing-om> AndChat264089: encryption is a level of complexity I am not qualified to cope with, sorry ( might see what results in a file system check anyway ?) .
[21:36] <ukulele> hi, can anyone suggest me a good cpu temp live sensor to put it on my xubuntu panel? tnx (no Psensor)
[21:36] <daftykins> creyc: that is more suited to SSH.
[21:36] <goddard> Renfried: did you try running ntfs fix before making the changes?  Sometimes Windows does some strange thing to lock the drive.
[21:37] <Renfried> goddard: Yeah, found no error either
[21:37] <daftykins> Renfried: use Windows to resize Windows.
[21:37] <Renfried> ukulele: lm_sensors should work
[21:37] <badbodh> ukulele, xfce has its own sensor applet. run "apt-cache search xfce sensor plugin" and see what comes up
[21:38] <creyc> daftykins, currently using SSH yes, but trying to allow some less experienced (with command line) users to manage these files as well.
[21:38] <badbodh> don;t remember the exact package name
[21:38] <daftykins> creyc: SFTP.
[21:38] <Renfried> daftykins: Is it a native windows prog, or am I installing something from the net
[21:38] <daftykins> Renfried: diskmgmt.msc -> right click the volume -> shrink volume
[21:39] <badbodh> ukulele, you may also install "xfce4-goodies" it contains several handy applets
[21:39] <creyc> and truthfully, i've become a bit spoiled by the file manager webui on my NAS.
[21:39] <daftykins> Renfried: most likely this exclamation mark is due to Windows 8/8.1/10 not having been shutdown properly prior, but yes do it this way and don't use gparted i would say.
[21:39] <ukulele> should i install xfce4-sensors-plugin too?
[21:39] <ukulele> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12974296/
[21:40] <Renfried> its windows 7(although previously upgraded to 10 then downgraded again), and it was shut down properly, as I had just been in to defrag and chkdsk
[21:40] <onla> !ubuntu touch
[21:40] <onla> !touch
[21:40] <daftykins> Renfried: nevermind, statement stands :)
[21:40] <flipsidecreation> does anyone know of a check writing program for Linux?  I GNUCash can write them out but I am looking for a program that will place the MICR Routing numbers on the blanks
[21:40] <badbodh> ukulele, install xfce-sensors-plugin, goodies is actually a metapackage if i recall, it pulls in various xfce plugins as dependencies
[21:41] <AndChat|264089> When I enter ecryptfs-mount-private I am able to see my files again on the console. But can't as soon as I log out
[21:44] <NYTimes> here is my xrandr http://pastebin.com/6qw2HSzH because it goes fullscreen on the wrong one any help please ?
[21:47] <AndChat|264089> Is there a way to copy my files to another drive.
[21:47] <bekks> !backup | AndChat|264089
[21:47] <artois> AndChat|264089: what for?
[21:50] <drmagoo> I think I've found the problem. /boot was on a separate partition, and fstab supports that. But fot some reason the system is ignore that and has create a new /boot on the root-partition. But the system still boots from the old partition causing all changes I make to be ignored. How can I correct this ?
[21:52] <EriC^^> drmagoo: did you chroot to install something?
[21:52] <daftykins> drmagoo: by moving the actual /boot onto the physical /boot and updating fstab
[21:52] <EriC^^> sounds like you chrooted and didn't mount /boot and installed stuff
[21:53] <AndChat|264089> ubottu: I can't currently sudo. The system no longer recognises my password despite me not changing it. So of those methods which would be best?
[21:53] <onla> !convergence
[21:53] <drmagoo> EriC^^: dont think I did, did a 'do-release-upgrade'
[21:53] <onla> is there a irc room for ubuntu convergence?
[21:54] <AndChat|264089> Artois: my system has pretty much locked me out
[21:54] <EriC^^> AndChat|264089: use the recovery mode to reset the passwor
[21:54] <EriC^^> *password
[21:56] <drmagoo> daftykins: how do you mean?
[21:57] <hgth> Is the MinimalCD able to boot into a live system?
[21:58] <k1l_> hgth: no
[21:58] <hgth> k1l_: thanks
[21:58] <badbodh> hgth, it's a minimal cd. 'minimal' :D
[21:59] <hgth> badbodh: the live cd used to be a cd and not a dvd
[21:59] <bekks> hgth: things are changing over time.
[22:00] <EriC^^> hgth: you want a live system that fits on a cd?
[22:00] <hgth> EriC^^: I do
[22:00] <AndChat|264089> EriC^^: can't get into recovery mode now.  It goes straight to the Ubuntu screen
[22:00] <AndChat|264089> Losing my mind now
[22:00] <EriC^^> hgth: lubuntu 14.04 is like 700mb or less i think
[22:00] <EriC^^> check releases.ubuntu.com
[22:01] <loa> can somebody explain how i can build this http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.3-rc6-unstable/
[22:01] <k1l_> hgth: the 90s called, they want their cd-burner back :)   no. most (if not all) user use usb sticks today. a lot of devices dont have cd-slots anymore.
[22:01] <loa> maybe somebody know article or have ready to go script...
[22:01] <k1l_> hgth: no chance to use a usb pendrive?
[22:01] <bekks> loa: to go script what?
[22:02] <hgth> k1l_: The computer doesn’t boot from USB
[22:02] <loa> bekks, "ready to go", "ready to use"
[22:02] <EriC^^> hgth: you can use plop to boot usb's i think
[22:02] <k1l_> hgth: then you want to use Lubuntu anyway.
[22:02] <Coordinador> hola
[22:03] <bekks> loa: there is a READ which points you to the relevant resources.
[22:03] <hgth> EriC^^: Lubuntu 14.04.3 is 750 Mb. That’s still too big but thanks
[22:03] <bekks> hgth: fits on a 800M CD-R.
[22:04] <loa> bekks, i read all that information... i did my own directory with sources... i did apply patches. i have problem with building now.
[22:04] <hgth> bekks: If only we had a 800 Mb CD-R
[22:04] <loa> i know how ot build... but i don't think i do this right.
[22:04] <bekks> loa: why dont you just use the binaries?
[22:05] <badbodh> sadly most cd-s are 650-700 mb in capacity. flash drive is best and quickest way.
[22:05] <loa> and main problem that patches are not applied perfectly...
[22:05] <EriC^^> hgth: it says 694mb here
[22:05] <EriC^^> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.3/release/lubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[22:05] <EriC^^> 32bit version http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04.3/release/lubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso
[22:05] <loa> bekks, i need few patches, i need 4.3 + ureadahead + little patch for i915
[22:05] <daftykins> drmagoo: you have two /boots... consolidate them.
[22:06] <EriC^^> AndChat264089: hold shift to get grub
[22:06] <drmagoo> daftykins: got that much =) but do I remount the old /boot then?
[22:06] <hgth> EriC^^: Thanks. Before starting the BitTorrent, it told me the file was 750 Mb. Strange.
[22:06] <daftykins> drmagoo: by updating fstab...
[22:06] <hgth> I’ll see how big the HTTP downloaded file will be
[22:07] <EriC^^> could be MiB and mb stuff
[22:07] <drmagoo> daftykins: to point to what? (Sorry for the dumb questions ;) )
[22:07] <daftykins> drmagoo: or you mean now to check it? standard mount in the terminal, use "mount" to check what's already mounted, then put it on /mnt temporarily to mess with it
[22:08] <daftykins> yeah i'm not sure how hard this sounds, you've got A and B, you need to put B into A then update fstab :P
[22:08] <hgth> EriC^^: Oh I hate it!
[22:08] <EriC^^> hgth: hate what?
[22:08] <EriC^^> lubuntu?
[22:09] <hgth> EriC^^: The whole Mb and MiB confusion
[22:09] <EriC^^> yeah
[22:09] <EriC^^> sucks
[22:09] <hgth> EriC^^: Lubuntu seems quite cool though I never used it
[22:10] <EriC^^> it's pretty minimal, it's quick and clean though
[22:10] <EriC^^> it's pretty too i guess
[22:10] <daftykins> nah ;)
[22:11] <EriC^^> file manager is nice :P
[22:11] <panda11> Can anyone tell me where I can download the template aMule webserver?
[22:13] <ens> danava and zavijava servers undergoing rebuild or something? they arn't reachable when i'm doing apt-get update and the page just shows the default apache/whatever
[22:13] <daftykins> ens: Canonical hosts? ask in -mirrors maybe
[22:13] <Seveas> ens: why are you using individual webservers in your sources.list?
[22:14] <ens> daftykins: yeah
[22:14] <ens> Seveas: dunno i'm using whatever's been default
[22:14] <daftykins> ens: your sources.list should use e.g. xx.archive.ubuntu.com
[22:15] <ens> yep, it is
[22:15] <ens> i'm just looking at the output from apt-get update
[22:15] <k1l_> ens: can you show the output in a pastebin and link that here?
[22:15] <Seveas> ens: those servers are not in the default sources.list. Please pastebin your sources.list and the files in sources.list.d
[22:16] <ens> Seveas: as i said they arn't in the sources.list.
[22:16] <ens> gb.archive.whatever
[22:16] <ens> is in there
[22:16] <k1l_> ens: please show the aot-get output so we can see whats going on
[22:16] <ens> okeydoke, one sec
[22:17] <ens> http://pastebin.com/LjqSfi47
[22:18] <k1l_> ens: 14.10 is dead now. you need to upgrade to 15.04
[22:18] <ens> ah fair enough
[22:18] <k1l_> non-LTS only have 9months support now. so you need to upgrade every 6 months. if you dont like upgrading that often better stay on LTS :)
[22:19] <ens> yeah i
[22:19] <Guest87635> hi ppl
[22:19] <ens> i'm using LTS on servers, non-LTS on my desktops
[22:23] <Khaotic> anyone know about hexchat and systray?
[22:23] <EriC^^> what about it, i use xchat
[22:23] <daftykins> just ask
[22:23] <EriC^^> it opens another instance?
[22:23] <Khaotic> i cant minimize or close to systray
[22:23] <Khaotic> 15.04 and up
[22:26] <hgth> EriC^^: Once downloaded, the Lbuntu 14.04.3 ISO is 716,2 MB big (according to Nautilus).
[22:26] <EriC^^> might fit on a cd i think it can be pushed to 720mb
[22:27] <hgth> EriC^^: I’ll try that out
[22:27] <EriC^^> A standard 120 mm, 700 MB CD-ROM can actually hold about 737 MB (703 MiB) ( from google )
[22:27] <OerHeks> Bing says the same :-)
[22:28] <drmagoo> daftykins: /boot is fixed. Still have the issue with not being able to enter luks/lvm password =( Got any suggestions?
[22:28] <daftykins> no i don't do encryption because it's a mess :)
[22:29] <drmagoo> daftykins: understand that =)
[22:30] <wileee> Khaotic, Top panel unity? not sure which or where systray
[22:35] <curiousx> !minimal
[22:36] <drmagoo> anyone know which file I need to export in order to save my lvm-setup for a reinstalltion?
[22:39] <hgth> EriC^^: Burning the image seems to work
[22:39] <TJ-> drmagoo: The contents of /etc/lvm/backup/ should be sufficient, but check when the last backup was made. Those are text files, and near the top is a line saying what the last command affecting the VG was
[22:40] <EriC^^> hgth: great
[22:40] <NYTimes> here is my xrandr http://pastebin.com/6qw2HSzH because it goes fullscreen on the wrong one any help please ?
[22:42] <drmagoo> TJ-: so I only need to backup those files, reinstall and then copy them to the clean installed system?
[22:42] <daftykins> drmagoo: TJ- might actually be a better person to ask with your encryption query :)
[22:42] <daftykins> well not 'might' :)
[22:43] <TJ-> drmagoo: see "man lvm.conf" for details of where/what lvm stores as config
[22:43] <TJ-> :p
[22:44] <drmagoo> TJ-: well, if you have any idea: My problem is that I cant enter the password for my encrypted lvm's. Nothing happends when I try and type. But ctrl+alt+del works ?!
[22:44] <T-Rex_> Hey everyone good evening, I am in need of small help. I have set up ubuntu 14.04 via parallels and connected to mac osx i plan on using it for development but i cant seem to change the apache2 document root i am getting forbidden when i do
[22:44] <daftykins> T-Rex_: why bother? just keep using /var/www/html/ as is default
[22:45] <daftykins> T-Rex_: just change the ownership of /var/www/html to www-data:www-data then add your user to the group www-data
[22:45] <T-Rex_> but i want to keep dev files on mac osx and just use ubuntu as a server and parallels but when i share folders between parallels (mac osx and ubuntu its in media/psf file
[22:45] <T-Rex_> not in var/www/
[22:46] <daftykins> T-Rex_: that's a very bad idea.
[22:46] <daftykins> you shouldn't use data from one host with a process on another
[22:47] <daftykins> why don't you set up the ubuntu host properly, then maybe share the document root via SFTP / sshfs / samba so you can throw files straight on from the mac?
[22:48] <T-Rex_> hmm
[22:48] <T-Rex_> im a rookie so this ought to be a challenge
[22:49] <daftykins> well you can't go into web administration without expecting to learn something :)
[22:49] <T-Rex_> i know but the issue is so much info i really do not know which is the right way to go
[22:50] <daftykins> T-Rex_: well i just told you :)
[22:50] <daftykins> essentially, you're probably trying to keep the files on the mac because you're not comfortable managing files between your host and the VM
[22:51] <T-Rex_> yes
[22:51] <daftykins> so you need to work on making that easier - either you set up a network share as i suggested - or you find a GUI app on macs that is like WinSCP on Windows
[22:53] <Seveas> daftykins: there's sshfs for mac :)
[22:53] <inteus> cyberduck for mac too
[22:53] <daftykins> Seveas: i did suggest it
[22:53] <daftykins> Seveas: but encrypted data on a host to host share is pretty stupid unecessary overhead
[22:53] <TJ-> drmagoo: At what stage of the boot process is the system when you're unable to type?
[22:53] <T-Rex_> but isnt that just duplicating work if you have parallels
[22:54] <T-Rex_> i mean if you can share a doc and use one instance of it for both
[22:54] <T-Rex_> why not instead of using ftp to transfer files between mac and vm
[22:54] <daftykins> T-Rex_: because a web server should not be told to handle files on a remote file system
[22:54] <daftykins> it's ridiculous :)
[22:55] <daftykins> permissions would have issues
[22:55] <TJ-> drmagoo: Also, what kind of encryption is in use - LUKS? And how is it applied ( LUKS-dm_crypt then LVM, or LVM then LV then LUKS-dm_crypt) ?
[22:56] <drmagoo> TJ-: it "hangs" just as the spalshscreen shows the "password box". Its luks and I belive its lvm-lv-Luks
[22:56] <Na3iL> I've mutt installed in my Ubuntu, when I try to write a mail it opens nano, practically I wanna use vi instead of nano
[22:57] <Na3iL> how can I modify the purge config to open with vi?
[22:57] <daftykins> does "echo $editor" report anything?
[22:57] <TJ-> drmagoo: If it is the installer-created full disk encryption it'll be LUKS then LVM. However, this sounds like an init system issue. Which Ubuntu release is it?
[22:57] <samthewildone> how do I disable the tooltips in unity ?
[22:57] <Na3iL> nothing daftykins
[22:57] <daftykins> ok nm
[22:58] <samthewildone> for example, when I hold my mouse of over an icon it shows the icon name...
[22:58] <drmagoo> TJ-: its the installer-created one. Ubuntu 15.04 upgraded from 14.10
[22:58] <TJ-> drmagoo: If you boot with the Recovery mode, that should not use a splash screen. What happens in that case?
[22:58] <TJ-> drmagoo: OK, so it *should* be systemd-init unless its inherited the Upstart from ealier releases.
[22:59] <TJ-> drmagoo: Splash screen is provided by 'plymouth' which has user input routines for such things; but so does systemd. It may be there are teething problems in their cooperation. Recovery mode boot is a good way to isolate that.
[22:59] <inteus> Na3iL: "sudo update-alternatives --config editor"
[23:00] <Na3iL> thanks a lot inteus , what's the difference between /usr/bin/vim.basic  and /usr/bin/vim.tiny
[23:00] <drmagoo> TJ-: if I choose recovery, what option next ? FailsafeX? If I choose resume, all I get is a cursor blinking in the top left corner
[23:01] <inteus> Na3iL: interface I think. not too sure. I think mine is set to vim tiny
[23:01] <Na3iL> Okay understood inteus , you are one of the VIM lovers o/ old school \o
[23:02] <inteus> yep
[23:02] <TJ-> drmagoo: Recovery mode should display the friendly-recovery ncurses text-based menu, with thinfs like 'resume' 'enable networking' and 'root shell' on it. Is that what you see?
[23:02] <drmagoo> TJ-: yes
[23:03] <drmagoo> TJ-: I choose failsafeX, which allowed me to enter the password without issue. Although it didnt start any wm, just a black screen with a black X for a mouse-cursor
[23:04] <daftykins> that's failsafe alright
[23:04] <Guest92139> I have been looking for a LAMP only control panel. Just for the ease of it. Closest I've come is ServerPilot, all the other has so much extra I don't need. If I had from them though it would be VestaCP (disabling exim4, dovecot, clamav, spamassassin, bind (named)).
[23:05] <josiene> oi
[23:05] <Guest92139> How hard would it be to create a script to create a mysql user when you use adduser in Ubuntu, along with the folder structure you need etc.
[23:05] <TJ-> drmagoo: Right, so in that mode, without plymouth, you are able to enter the LUKS pass-phrase. That points to an issue with plymouth's user input not working correctly. The next test is to boot in the default mode, but as soon as the splash-screen purple background is displayed press the Esc key which will suspend the splash screen and show console. See if you get a text prompt for the passphrase. If you do,
[23:05] <TJ-> tell me the *exact* wording so I can identify which program is asking
[23:07] <daftykins> hinderaker: sounds a lot like you're trying to replicate what i think landscape already does
[23:07] <hinderaker> It does?
[23:07] <hinderaker> Is that a paid service or is it free for personal use?
[23:07] <drmagoo> TJ-: nothing "happends" when I press Esc. The spalsh-screen continues until the box appears
[23:08] <daftykins> no idea on its' current state, was free when i used it
[23:08] <hinderaker> I want to manage a LAMP only server (maybe ftp, but that is another discussion, alteast chrooted sftp) with ease.
[23:08] <hinderaker> Nothing less nothing more.
[23:08] <curiousx> Hi there, my graphic card is an amd 7750, what packages do i have to install to get xorg running ?
[23:10] <daftykins> curiousx: which ubuntu?
[23:10] <TJ-> drmagoo: OK. Hmm! If Esc is ignored too, this sounds like console input is misdirected to somewhere else.
[23:10] <curiousx> daftykins: i'll install the minimal .iso
[23:10] <drmagoo> TJ-: Yeah. seems that way
[23:11] <daftykins> curiousx: that's pretty pointless
[23:12] <Guest1810> Speaking about minimal isos... Mind if I ask an absolutely retarded question?
[23:12] <curiousx> daftykins: mmm... why
[23:13] <daftykins> full install = <4GB :)
[23:13] <TJ-> drmagoo: OK, next test. Reboot, hold down Shift to get the GRUB boot menu. highlight the default entry, press 'E' to edit it. Navigate to the line "linux ..." and remove "splash quiet" then immediately execute that modified line by pressing either Ctrl+X or F10. You should get a normal boot but without the splash screen. See if you get a clear working text prompt for the passphrase.
[23:13] <daftykins> Guest1810: you already did by asking to ask
[23:13] <Guest1810> Installing the minimal iso and setting up it from the ground up would result in a system as light as, let's say, an Arch Linux install
[23:13] <Guest1810> Right?
[23:14] <curiousx> daftykins: no no, i'll keep my installation as small as posible, i'll install nothing only xorg -.-
[23:14] <wileee> Guest1810, Not a good comparison, read the wiki maybe.
[23:14] <curiousx> daftykins: well, after xorg, i'll install bspwm and my common software, but that's all
[23:14] <daftykins> curiousx: ok, massive time waste :)
[23:15] <Guest1810> wileee, The ubuntu wiki?
[23:15] <Guest1810> Or the debian wiki?
[23:15] <daftykins> Guest1810: no
[23:15] <curiousx> daftykins: could be a massive time waste, but my distro will not be bloated -.-
[23:15] <wileee> !mini | Guest1810 this is ubuntu
[23:16] <TJ-> Guest1810: the base (virtual) package for all installs is "ubuntu-minimal" - all installs share that as a common foundation
[23:16] <daftykins> curiousx: you're a teenager aren't you? :)
[23:17] <curiousx> so please, could anyone point on wich packages do i need to install xorg ?  i got a amd 7750 graphic card
[23:17] <Guest1810>  If you selected nothing, upon reboot you will arrive at a cli prompt; from here you can fully customize your new system.
[23:17] <drmagoo> TJ-: hmm.. that displayed the POST (not bios :) ) but stoped at "lvm2-monitor.service" and just hangs there
[23:17] <TJ-> drmagoo: Great!
[23:17] <Guest1810> So basically I can make it as light as I want it to be
[23:18] <curiousx> daftykins: i just got tired of bloateness :p
[23:18] <wileee> Guest1810, Pretty much, a lot of choices though from servers to desktops.
[23:18] <daftykins> curiousx: ok, i guess you have an old low spec machine.
[23:18] <drmagoo> TJ-: but I dont get to enter the password and the system just hangs
[23:18] <wileee> Guest1810, Depends on how skilled you are, dependencies are the extras
[23:18] <TJ-> drmagoo: if we consider we know the order is LUKS-dm_crypt then LVM, that tells us that systemd-init is waiting on the lvm devices to appear. The fact it hangs also indicates that maybe cryptsetup didn't run correctly in the initial ramdisk so no LVM showed up
[23:19] <TJ-> drmagoo: The cryptsetup unlocking of the LUKS-dm_crypt device is done by scripts and a config in the initial ramdisk. So now we have somewhere to focus
[23:20] <TJ-> drmagoo: Please reboot in recovery mode, enable networking, and choose root shell.
[23:20] <curiousx> daftykins: let say for instance, Gnome desktop or KDE comes with a daemon that indexes files that i don't want it running on my system, just to give an example
[23:20] <drmagoo> TJ-: ok =)
[23:21] <daftykins> curiousx: yes i know about these things, i'd rather not talk about it though - i disagree with your usage but go nuts :)
[23:21] <curiousx> daftykins: no no, my desktop is four processor cores 6 gbs ram graphic 7750, ins't much, but i could run any DE as fast as hell
[23:21] <drmagoo> TJ-: done, what next?
[23:21] <TJ-> drmagoo: Now we'll use the root shell to unpack the initrd.img and investigate. We know it works when using Recovery, so it can't be missing, therefore something else is likely happening to interfere
[23:22] <TJ-> drmagoo: "mount - remount,rw /" so you can write to the file-system
[23:22] <TJ-> drmagoo: "mount -o remount,rw /" so you can write to the file-system
[23:22] <pero> hey, I would like to ask you, where i can find someone to ask him about bugs on graphic card
[23:22] <drmagoo> TJ-: done
[23:22] <TJ-> drmagoo: first tell me which kernel version is running: "uname -r"
[23:23] <mobile> hi
[23:23] <drmagoo> TJ-: 4.2.0-16-generic
[23:23] <curiousx> daftykins: and you would be surprice if you check /r/unixporn, there are guys running arch with bspwm (tilling window manager) as WM on a i7 4770 -.-
[23:23] <daftykins> curiousx: you are not telling me anything new. ignoring you now.
[23:23] <TJ-> drmagoo: OK, check for the initrd: "ls -l /boot/" you should see, amongst others, "initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic"
[23:24] <curiousx> xD why so much hate ? i just ask for help
[23:24] <drmagoo> TJ-: yeah, got it
[23:24] <pero> sry, Im new to ubuntu chat. where is chat for graphic card drivers?
[23:24] <curiousx> ok ill go and find my help in other place -.-
[23:25] <TJ-> drmagoo: OK. "mkdir /tmp/intrd; cd /tmp/initrd; zcat /boot/initrd.img-4.2.0-16-generic | cpio -id"
[23:25] <TJ-> drmagoo: correct my typo!
[23:25] <TJ-> drmagoo: s/intrd/initrd/
[23:26] <drmagoo> TJ-: 180040 blocks
[23:26] <TJ-> drmagoo: Now if you do "ls -altr" you'll see the content of the initrd
[23:26] <drmagoo> TJ-: yes I do
[23:27] <vvH1p|a5h> !skype
[23:27] <webchat1> hi. cloud image. vagrant. wily. thinks interface is ethic. it isn't. it is eno0s3. steps to reproduce: vagrant init ubuntu/wily64; vagrant up.    currently testing ubuntu/wily32
[23:28] <webchat1> s/ethic/eth0/ stupid autocorrect
[23:28] <TJ-> drmagoo: first do "cat conf/conf.d/cryptroot"
[23:28] <webchat1> also s/eno0s3/enp0s3/   *sigh*
[23:28] <drmagoo> TJ-: I only have mdadm and splash there
[23:29] <webchat1> and yes, this was tested with the vagrant image released about 2 hours ago
[23:29] <TJ-> drmagoo: really!? That is unexpected!
[23:31] <TJ-> drmagoo: Is the root file-system an LV in the LVM VG?
[23:31] <jaqque> OH HEY. i had to actually join the channel instead of just adding it!  heh
[23:31] <jaqque> but yeah - looks like wily32 suffers ad wily64 does.
[23:32] <drmagoo> TJ-: yes, but /boot/ is on a non-lvm partition (ext3 on one disc)
[23:32] <Fyxi> Hello, I need help, after installing "fglrx-updates" amd graphic card driver my laptop freezes after writing disk crypt password and accepting it (it pauses while circle animation is running, it's the same as buffering animation). I can't even go to TTY1 or so.
[23:32] <jaqque> so does anyone care about the cloud images (vagrant, specifically) or is this bug report going to go ignored? (i am not making a launchpad account. i am hoping that someone that cares is about)
[23:33] <Fyxi> I have laptop with two hybrid gpu card, one intel, one amd. I don't know what is wrong, I have newest Ubuntu.
[23:33] <TJ-> drmagoo: Yes, separate /boot/ is required for most encryoted root-fs scenarios. The issue here seems to be that there's an initrd with no cryptroot device config. I'm trying to figure out how in that case the friendly-recovery manages to start!
[23:33] <Fyxi> I had fglrx drivers before at my previous installation.
[23:34] <Fyxi> Can someone help?
[23:34] <TJ-> !bug | jaqque
[23:34] <drmagoo> TJ-: sorry, was a bit unclear. the root-lvm is not encrypted, but /home/ and /storage/ is
[23:34] <daftykins> Fyxi: purge fglrx*
[23:34] <Fyxi> Anyone have newest Ubuntu (15.10) and working fglrx drivers?
[23:34] <drmagoo> TJ-: if that matters
[23:35] <TJ-> drmagoo: OHhhhhhhhh!!
[23:35] <Fyxi> I purget it but I want to have it... I don't like Open-Source one.
[23:35] <Fyxi> purged*
[23:35] <Fyxi> And everything is working after purge, but after installing it again laptop again freezes.
[23:36] <TJ-> drmagoo: Yes, it dramatically changes the scenario! Now, that tells us initrd.img doesn't need to decrypt the LVM to get to the root file-system. In which case the root file-system is mounted and systemd-init starts, and further unlocking us done by the systemd-cryptsetup service.
[23:36] <hinderaker> Landscape seems a little overkill when all i want is some sort of script to easily create folder structure and mysql user and database along with the "adduser" command in ubuntu.
[23:36] <TJ-> drmagoo: so, we need to look somewhere else, no in the initrd :)
[23:36] <drmagoo> TJ-: sorry for wasting your time on that =)
[23:36] <Fyxi> Can anybody help, I'm bit tired and want's to sleep ;)
[23:37] <daftykins> Fyxi: so sleep now and fix tomorrow. no point being fixed when you're asleep.
[23:37] <hinderaker> If ServerPilot had multiple users in their free plan along with chrooted sftp access it would be perfect.
[23:37] <Fyxi> ok, i'm not that sleepy xD
[23:37] <TJ-> drmagoo: We know you can unlock, so /etc/crypttab contents will be OK. That means we need to gather a systemd log from a failed boot. The fact there should be a working root-FS means we might be able to get to that even if the other file-system can't be unlocked.
[23:38] <Fyxi> i want this thing todo this time, and go to sleep. i'm not "so much sleepy". just bit
[23:38] <jaqque> ubottu: thanks
[23:38] <jurgen889> Hi  - is btrfs safe to use as a root filesystem? Do I need to create a /boot partition?
[23:39] <drmagoo> TJ-: just tell me what to do
[23:39] <Fyxi> daftykins: any idea?
[23:39] <TJ-> drmagoo: I'm thinking... can you see the steam?
[23:39] <drmagoo> TJ-: yes =)
[23:39] <daftykins> Fyxi: i already told you, purge flgrx*
[23:39] <Bashing-om> Fyxi: FGLRX is presently broken in 15.10 . See the release notes and the linked bug report .
[23:39] <Fyxi> ahh, so i must wait for update?
[23:40] <daftykins> Fyxi: ah yeah reinstalling exactly the same thing that breaks it, is not gonna work
[23:40] <Fyxi> thank's for clarifing
[23:40] <Fyxi> so, i must wait for update, yup?
[23:40] <Bashing-om> Fyxi: We are awaiting the fix from AMD .. proprietary, it is their code .
[23:41] <Fyxi> yea i'm someone beetwen script-kiddie and not kiddie xd
[23:41] <TJ-> drmagoo: Can you check "ls -la /run/systemd/generator/" do you see any directory similar to "cryptsetup.target.requires" ?
[23:41] <Fyxi> so i know it's closed source
[23:41] <Fyxi> ok, thank's for all, bye
[23:42] <Bashing-om> Fyxi: :) .
[23:42] <drmagoo> TJ-: yes
[23:43] <drmagoo> TJ-: contains systemd-cryptsetup@vghome.... and vgstorage
[23:45] <drmagoo> TJ-: both ends with crypt.service (they are symlinks. target files are "one step down" (if you understand what I mean)
[23:45] <drmagoo> TJ-: and they are chown root:root
[23:45] <jurgen889> Hi  - is btrfs safe to use as a root filesystem? Do I need to create a /boot partition?
[23:46] <mcphail> jurgen889: yes and no, respectively
[23:46] <TJ-> drmagoo: Ok, that sounds good. Those are 'generated' as a result of the entries in /etc/crypttab.
[23:46] <jurgen889> mcphail: thank you!!!
[23:46] <TJ-> drmagoo: So, we need to figure out why the keyboard input is going to the wrong destination.
[23:46] <TJ-> drmagoo: Have you at some time in the past installed any custom plymouth splash screens?
[23:49] <drmagoo> TJ-: no, dont think so. The only thing I can think of is that I installed xubuntu-desktop a while back (gives a blue splash, but I've get the purple one now (ubuntu)
[23:49] <brontosaurusrex> Are ALT+y,x,c,v used for anything usually?
[23:49] <TJ-> drmagoo: I think we need to see if there's some evidence in the log files. Can you "pastebinit /var/log/syslog" ?
[23:51] <wbill> onubuntu using sox does anyone have a one liner to be able to record from my external usb sound card mic input?
[23:52] <TJ-> wbill: see "man arecord"
[23:52] <wbill> or whatever would work i have sox and lame installed and an ate up repo that doesn't know want to install anything else
[23:53] <drmagoo> TJ-: its 25 mb =( I get a socket-timeout. Can I upload it somewhere?
[23:54] <TJ->  drmagoo 25MB?! ouch. hmmm, maybe we can reduce it a bit.
[23:55] <TJ-> drmagoo: hang on, it might be unneccessary. I think this could be bug 1386005. Can you show me "cat /proc/cmdline"
[23:56] <drmagoo> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12975662/
[23:57] <TJ-> drmagoo: HAHA! See comment #3 by Steve Lanagsek in the bug report. Your situation matches
[23:57] <TJ-> drmagoo: Can you "pastebinit /etc/default/grub"