[13:08] <flocculant> balloons: on testcases at the bottom we add the If all actions produce the expected results blurb
[13:09] <flocculant> and file a bug. <- this file a bug fails - did it work once? is it expected to work?
[13:11] <balloons> really, it fails?
[13:12] <flocculant> well it doesn't fail to *do* something
[13:12] <flocculant> hang on - screeny and a 1000 words
[13:12] <balloons> i'm looking
[13:12] <balloons> ohh right, I understand
[13:12] <balloons> it's to the anchor
[13:13] <flocculant> this ? http://i.imgur.com/VNt36Jl.png
[13:13] <balloons> yep. But no one fills that out or maintains it
[13:13] <balloons> hmmm
[13:13] <flocculant> ok - so really it needs to go I guess
[13:13] <balloons> well, you could fill out the bug info for each
[13:14] <flocculant> where?
[13:14] <balloons> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/products/40/edit
[13:14] <flocculant> omg
[13:15] <balloons> each product would need to have the info in there. I'm curious about what the best way to fix the issue is.
[13:15] <balloons> remove the hyperlink, or bug instructions in there
[13:15] <balloons> conversely on the package tracker, it too will be confusing if not filled out
[13:15] <flocculant> yep - that's what I was asked :)
[13:17] <flocculant> well while I might add instructions to xubuntu things - I'd rather mail my testers and say ignore that :p
[13:18] <flocculant> balloons: off to work again - just looked at my iso.tracker - not sure what I've not done - but the testcases aren't showing up :(
[13:19] <balloons> flocculant, yea I saw the same thing. Typically the iso tracker should push new builds itself via script
[13:20] <balloons> I usually give it a week to see the first images
[13:25] <balloons> I guess have a think flocculant about what you might put in xubuntu products. We'd need someting generic enough to cover all products, plus add it to any new products
[13:25] <balloons> Again, I'm not quite sure what to do with it
[16:40] <flocculant> balloons: well - I do have that situation covered on our in-house stuff
[16:40] <flocculant> it's just that someone asked - first time in however long
[17:21] <flocculant> balloons: if you could spend 30 seconds on https://code.launchpad.net/~flocculant/ubuntu-manual-tests/1510539/+merge/275893 for me that would be awesome :)
[17:30] <slickymasterWork> flocculant, do you want me to review your clearlooks MP?
[17:33] <balloons> flocculant, commented and approved
[17:34] <balloons> flocculant, so you don't think we need to update the footer text?
[17:34] <slickymasterWork> lol balloons, beat me to it
[17:34] <balloons> slickymaster, :-p
[17:34] <slickymasterWork> ;)
[17:34] <balloons> mm is wxl about?
[17:35] <balloons> and flocculant, slickymasterWork, I guess I can broach this topic with you as well, since you are a captive audience. Would you consider hosting a session on xubuntu for the show and tell track?
[17:36] <wxl> balloons: trying to coerce me to do a session, i'm assuming? XD
[17:36] <balloons> I need to mail the xubuntu list, and will do so anyway
[17:36] <balloons> wxl, of course, of course. I'd like to see some lubuntu sessions again too :-)
[17:36] <slickymasterWork> unfortunately, I'm unable to do it during work hours balloons
[17:36] <balloons> Doesn't have to be you, but again, I'll mail the lubuntu list. Would be nice to have some support
[17:37] <wxl> please do balloons
[17:37] <balloons> slickymasterWork, no worries. I was just in process of trying to ask, so support for the idea is still nice
[17:37] <slickymasterWork> :)
[17:38] <flocculant> balloons: well as I said - I've got quite a bit on reporting bugs at http://xubuntu.org/contribute/qa/
[17:38] <flocculant> so - that footer to me as it stands is just annoying if someone asks me about it :)
[17:38] <balloons> flocculant, so you'll just link there.. that makes sense
[17:39] <balloons> flocculant, ohh.. what I'm trying to get at is, how to best fix it for everyone, since it will be on all testcases; including things not on the isotracker
[17:39] <flocculant> balloons: well - not sure about the use in that - *some* of our stuff isn't just used by us
[17:40] <flocculant> balloons: personally if it wasn't such a facepalm inducing task I would suggest removing the text from the footer
[17:40] <balloons> flocculant, I think i'm in the same boat. Let's just remove the hyperlink
[17:41] <flocculant> ok - so I'll create a bug and assign it to someone like Nick Skaggs :p
[17:41] <balloons> :p
[17:41] <balloons> and ohh lookie; http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/347/builds/105070/buginstructions
[17:41] <balloons> I'm apparently a good release manager (LOL, or someone is), and put useful info in there
[17:42] <balloons> never mind, no longer a problem...
[17:42]  * balloons floats away silently
[17:42] <flocculant> I suppose we could make the testcase admins aware - ask them to ask people proposing fixes to remove that bit
[17:42] <balloons> lol.. let's just keep it. And make the product managers put something in there
[17:42] <balloons> honestly I suppose that is the simplest bit
[17:43] <balloons> put something in there or don't. Either way, people should still file a bug
[17:43] <balloons> you could just drop in your url.. would take 2 mins to update your products with it
[17:44] <flocculant> balloons: yes - for the majority of ours
[17:44] <balloons> given the fact we'd literally have to update every testcase, and then sync them all as the alternative, I'm backing out of removine it
[17:45] <flocculant> gnome-calc for instance - only us use the testcase atm - what about in 6 months
[17:45] <flocculant> ooh
[17:45] <flocculant> balloons: so there's somewhere I could add it for my testsuites and it shows it for testcases?
[17:48] <flocculant> balloons: ok - got it - fixed my product now :D
[17:48] <flocculant> http://packages.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/350/builds/105268/buginstructions
[17:48] <balloons> nice. Yep, that solves it nicey i think
[17:49] <flocculant> balloons: I had awful visions of having to do 50 odd things - hence me assigning you :D
[22:26] <slickymaster> I don't disagree at all, knome
[22:26] <slickymaster> ups, wrong channel
[22:42] <flocculant> balloons: and here I go with another " wouldn't it be good if the tracker did" thing - but wouldn't it be good if there was a different color for a bug once it's fixed
[22:42] <flocculant> :)