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| pitti | slangasek, Saviq: indeed, passing again \o/ | 03:59 |
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| Guest80975 | Hello Does anyone know Ubuntu touch support LG Nexus 5X? | 04:24 |
| lotuspsychje | good morning guys | 06:26 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 08:00 |
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| JMD | anyone tried an external monitor with ubuntu touch phone? | 09:19 |
| mcphail | JMD: I don't think that works with any of the retail phones | 09:19 |
| JMD | Will it be able to work with the new update OTA8? | 09:21 |
| JMD | I've got a Nexus 4 and got a cable recently and it worked, sort of | 09:22 |
| JMD | Ubuntu touch appeared on half the external screen | 09:23 |
| mcphail | JMD: As I understand it, this is all still very much a work-in-progress | 09:24 |
| JMD | @ mcphail: sure just really excited to see how it's coming along! | 09:31 |
| mcphail | JMD: :). Some of the devs with Nexus 4s will probably be along in a while. Ask again then | 09:32 |
| JMD | I finish work in 30mins so probably won't be able to :( | 09:33 |
| JMD | From what I have seen it could be improved for OTA8? | 09:33 |
| popey | yeah, just updated my nexus 4 and played with external monitor / mouse / keyboard | 09:34 |
| popey | fun | 09:34 |
| JMD | ooooo :) | 09:35 |
| JMD | I have a bluetooth mouse/keyboard but bluetooth has never pworked well under Ubuntu Touch with my Nexus 4, you? | 09:36 |
| JMD | @popey. Is that a preview of OTA8 or even further away? | 09:37 |
| popey | if it's in rc-proposed then it will likely land in OTA-8 given that's the next one | 09:38 |
| popey | (unless it regresses horribly and gets removed) | 09:39 |
| popey | which is unlikely I think | 09:39 |
| JMD | cool, fingers crossed... | 09:39 |
| popey | yeah! | 09:40 |
| popey | shame the screenshots I took didn't work | 09:40 |
| popey | Saviq, is it known that screenshots don't work when connected to external monitor? | 09:40 |
| JMD | Mine sort of worked now, but only showed up on half the external monitor... | 09:40 |
| mcphail | Do you need to attach a mouse to get it to rotate to fullscreen? | 09:42 |
| JMD | It wa up the right way but was in portrait so only showed up on half my external screen | 09:42 |
| JMD | I found a SlimPort to HDMI cablewhich says it's compatible with Nexus 4 | 09:43 |
| mcphail | JMD: from the demos I've seen, attaching a mouse makes the phone switch to tablet/landscape mode and enables windows. Perhaps that would let the picture fill the screen? | 09:44 |
| * mcphail doesn't own the hardware to test this | 09:45 | |
| JMD | @mcphail: hmm, ok, thx, problem is my bluetooth has never been able to connect to anything since I put UT on it, any ideas? | 09:46 |
| mcphail | JMD: I'm waiting for bluetooth to be fixed, as well :( | 09:46 |
| mcphail | JMD: heard it might improve in OTA9... | 09:46 |
| JMD | ah, goody | 09:47 |
| mcphail | JMD: I think bluez5 is in progress. I keep annoying the devs here to try to focus them on landing it by OTA9 ;p | 09:47 |
| JMD | you keep on them ;) | 09:48 |
| mcphail | JMD: Yes, I suspect I'm as annoying as a gnat! | 09:49 |
| JMD | lol, it just feels so close but not quite there! | 09:49 |
| JMD | So I'm guessing many ppl here put down for the Indiegogo Ubuntu phone? | 09:50 |
| popey | http://imgur.com/nAFvEqD | 09:51 |
| JMD | Awesome, that's your phone popey? | 09:52 |
| popey | ya, nexus 4 | 09:52 |
| popey | which you can just about see bottom left | 09:52 |
| JMD | hmm too dark but exciting to see the screen :) | 09:53 |
| JMD | and that's the proposed channel which wil become OTA8? | 09:53 |
| JMD | And you might want to give it a charge, just sayin :) | 09:54 |
| JMD | Righto, thx for answers ppl, time for the pub! | 09:57 |
| mcphail | JMD: Slainte! | 09:59 |
| JMD | ?? | 09:59 |
| JMD | oh, thx and you too :) | 10:00 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Tuesday, and happy Cranky Co-Workers Day! 😃 | 10:12 |
| jgdx | JamesTait, who you calling cranky!?!? | 10:20 |
| JamesTait | jgdx, go jump in a fjjord! | 10:21 |
| JamesTait | (minus a j) | 10:21 |
| Saviq | popey, known, not, expected, likely, bug please? | 10:21 |
| JamesTait | Saviq has turned into William Shatner.... | 10:23 |
| Saviq | ;D | 10:23 |
| popey | ok Saviq | 10:25 |
| sturmflut2 | JamesTait: My co-worker actually is cranky. She hit a deer with her car and now has to take the train to work :/ | 10:28 |
| JamesTait | sturmflut2, as least she has a good reason. 😉 | 10:31 |
| Saviq | pitti, hey, does http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#unity8 look right? http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running.html does not show the unity-scope-click running? | 10:43 |
| pitti | Saviq: ah, some more fallout from lcy01 breakage, let me fix | 10:52 |
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| Saviq | pitti, thanks | 10:54 |
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| jgdx | abeato, hey, bug 1504992 -- could you recap? What's confirmed for System Settings? | 13:49 |
| ubot5 | bug 1504992 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Cannot connect to Simple Mobile APN" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1504992 | 13:49 |
| jgdx | we have no Internet+mms property on the type field, so maybe the description needs to be updated if it is indeed confirmed for USS | 13:50 |
| balloons | Elleo, ping | 14:02 |
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| Elleo | balloons: pong? | 14:06 |
| balloons | Elleo, hey, mhall119 tells me you might be working on a game at the moment, is that true? | 14:07 |
| balloons | and is so, I'd like to ask if you would be willing to do a little session at UOS next week. A 'show and tell' session as we call it. Essentially, a little live demonstration of developing the game, while taking questions. | 14:08 |
| Elleo | balloons: I have a half finished game I started ages ago, haven't done much on it recently though | 14:08 |
| balloons | That sounds like a possibility. Something that is in-progress works well for this I think. Would you be interested in doing something like that? | 14:10 |
| Elleo | balloons: it's actually so old that I did a UOS session on it last year :P | 14:10 |
| balloons | :p Ok, so only 6 months ago if that helps | 14:10 |
| balloons | or maybe it was a year ago, since I don't remember it | 14:11 |
| balloons | hah! | 14:11 |
| Elleo | yeah, I think it was more than one UOS ago | 14:11 |
| balloons | Elleo, anyways, if you've done it before, you kind of have the idea. I think it would be useful to encourage more developers to explore making a game, and I was keen to get someone with some experience to talk and share a project in progress with them | 14:12 |
| Elleo | balloons: yeah, 1 year ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0pJiDFqPZc :P | 14:12 |
| balloons | would you use the same framework today? | 14:12 |
| balloons | anything changed to make it easier? what options exist, etc | 14:13 |
| Elleo | balloons: actually since doing that video I rewrote it to use kenvandine's engine (bacon2d) | 14:13 |
| balloons | ahh nice | 14:14 |
| Elleo | balloons: but, yeah, I'll happily do a quick demo and q&a; what sort of length would it be? | 14:15 |
| Elleo | balloons: might even spur me to do a bit of work on it ;) | 14:15 |
| dpm | sil2100, if I understand it correctly, to get the latest convergence goodness on a Nexus 4 (i.e. silo 22) I can install from the rc-proposed/ubuntu channel, right? But is there another channel for the N4 that contains these changes _and_ the Nokia Here bits to get AGPS working? | 14:16 |
| balloons | Elleo, it'll be a 1 hour slot, but often the demo sessions are 10 - 20 mins. I would plan to do a little demo and talk through your development, maybe do a little quick hacking. That would be 10 mins or so. Then take questions from there. We may find it runs the whole session; we may not | 14:16 |
| * dpm has lost track of N4 channels after having used the stable channel on his bq for quite a while | 14:16 | |
| sil2100 | dpm: hey! Yeah, so it's a bit more complicated right now | 14:17 |
| sil2100 | dpm: the latest convergence unity8 bits landed in rc-proposed/ubuntu now, so if you want to have AGPS working we have a soon-to-be-migrated rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en channel with mako images there | 14:17 |
| sil2100 | dpm: but... | 14:17 |
| balloons | Elleo, the show and tell sessions are fun and lighthearted. casual and unscripted | 14:17 |
| balloons | so don't feel the need to prepare slides or a big speech or anything :-) Just you, a camera, and a project :-) | 14:18 |
| Elleo | balloons: okay, cool | 14:18 |
| sil2100 | dpm: the fully convergable images are currently in the ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/ubuntu-pd channels - this is the channel that has images with libertine installed | 14:18 |
| balloons | Elleo, excellent. I'll create the session. Let me know if you have a time and day you prefer and I'll schedule it right now. Thanks for volunteering! | 14:19 |
| sil2100 | dpm: the pocket-desktop images have a separate channel right now as we're pulling in additional stuff that we didn't want to have in stable images right now | 14:19 |
| dpm | sil2100, that's fine, I'm more about getting native apps to run on a desktop-like environment with a monitor. Or is there anything else that I'd be missig from the PD channel to get a demo going? | 14:19 |
| Elleo | balloons: most days/times are good with me; possibly best to avoid tuesdays as I'm usually out in the evening and have some extra meetings that afternoon, and have regular stand ups at 2pm UTC each day; so any time other than those is good | 14:20 |
| iMiksu | I’m planning to explore on doing app development for Ubuntu Touch, what phone you recommend to do it with? I would prefer something that is good for personal “production use” | 14:28 |
| dobey | iMiksu: you don't need a phone to develop apps, but for "production" support, buy a production phone; bq e4.5 ubuntu, bq e5 ubuntu, meizu mx4 ubuntu | 14:29 |
| nick4442 | oh boy, ubuntu browser got stuck maximized and the windows controls are missing | 14:31 |
| popey | yeah, i get that on my device too | 14:31 |
| nick4442 | do you guys know where does unity saves windows size? | 14:31 |
| nick4442 | popey: and how do you reset the size? :D | 14:32 |
| popey | i didnt | 14:32 |
| nick4442 | popey: i think it's possible but i forgot how :( | 14:32 |
| nick4442 | popey: have you tried xmir? | 14:33 |
| dobey | nick4442: unity doesn't store state of client windows | 14:34 |
| dobey | i guess the browser app might save its own state? | 14:34 |
| nick4442 | dobey: could be? the calculator app remembers the size and position | 14:35 |
| nick4442 | so.. the apps store the size and position somewhere :)) | 14:36 |
| popey | nick4442, yes | 14:39 |
| nick4442 | popey: how do you start the apps? Xmir :0 --desktop_file_hint=whatever.desktop? | 14:40 |
| popey | i click the icon :) | 14:40 |
| nick4442 | oh :)) | 14:40 |
| nick4442 | hmm | 14:41 |
| jgdx | seb128, faenil: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12979870/ | 14:42 |
| faenil | http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/12979899/ seb128 jgdx | 14:47 |
| seb128 | thanks | 14:47 |
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| frecel | popey: well that's a crappy start http://i.imgur.com/kD81X9Q.png | 16:01 |
| popey | dodgy cable? :) | 16:01 |
| popey | oh, it locked while you were downloading | 16:01 |
| popey | unlock it, run it again | 16:01 |
| frecel | popey: that worked thanks | 16:02 |
| popey | super | 16:02 |
| abeato | tsdgeos, hey, I'm trying to reproduce bug #1496736 | 16:04 |
| ubot5 | bug 1496736 in Canonical System Image "currentSource of Playlist gets set to empty" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496736 | 16:04 |
| abeato | tsdgeos, is there a way to reproduce it using some qml? | 16:04 |
| abeato | silo 4 is building now and I am not sure of whether it is in a clean state or not | 16:05 |
| tsdgeos | abeato: you can use the qml that silo 4 has :D | 16:06 |
| tsdgeos | abeato: i do not have a separate test for it than the code i have | 16:06 |
| abeato | tsdgeos, ok, I'll wait for it to build then | 16:07 |
| frecel | popey: 2015/10/27 10:07:50 error pushing: protocol failure | 16:08 |
| frecel | popey: I feel like this used to be a lot easier | 16:08 |
| popey | frecel, i agree | 16:13 |
| frecel | popey: can you ping me again, I think I broke my notifications | 16:23 |
| popey | frecel, maybe | 16:23 |
| frecel | popey: one more please | 16:24 |
| tathhu | frecel pam | 16:30 |
| abeato | tsdgeos, quick question, do I need development branch of music app to reproduce the bug? | 16:32 |
| tsdgeos | abeato: the music app is not involved at all | 16:33 |
| ahayzen | abeato, as i said in #7 of the bug 1496736 "This has not yet been observed in the music-app, so not currently blocking it land." | 16:33 |
| ubot5 | bug 1496736 in Canonical System Image "currentSource of Playlist gets set to empty" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1496736 | 16:33 |
| abeato | tsdgeos, good, just wanted to be sure :) | 16:34 |
| abeato | ahayzen, ack | 16:34 |
| abeato | tsdgeos, I'm having problems with silo 4 | 16:34 |
| tsdgeos | abeato: what's up? | 16:34 |
| abeato | tsdgeos, first, not all packages have a version for 15.04 | 16:34 |
| abeato | only unity-api in fact | 16:35 |
| tsdgeos | the status of https://requests.ci-train.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/29 doesn't look good | 16:36 |
| abeato | certainly | 16:36 |
| abeato | pstolowski, silo 4 is not building ^^ | 16:37 |
| pstolowski | abeato, i know... i've been fighting with it today | 16:37 |
| abeato | ok | 16:38 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, did you see my email about silo 4? | 16:40 |
| pstolowski | jhodapp, yes. and i was about to reply with instructions, but then noticed the silo needed rebuilding... and since then i'm stuck with it | 16:40 |
| abeato | pstolowski, please add me in the reply | 16:41 |
| pstolowski | jhodapp, there are some issues with dependencies after latest landings, not sure why | 16:41 |
| pstolowski | abeato, ok | 16:41 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, alright...can you ping myself and abeato when you've resolved it and then can you verify with the latest vivid image that still have that bug with it? | 16:41 |
| abeato | thanks! | 16:41 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1496736 | 16:42 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1496736 in Canonical System Image "currentSource of Playlist gets set to empty" [High,In progress] | 16:42 |
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| seb128 | jgdx, still there? | 16:58 |
| jgdx | seb128, go | 17:02 |
| seb128 | jgdx, reviewing your changes, look mostly good, I've small questions | 17:02 |
| jgdx | seb128, shoot | 17:02 |
| seb128 | jgdx, did you mean to change the hotspot panel in the same set? | 17:02 |
| seb128 | if fact ignore that, from the description you did ;-) | 17:03 |
| jgdx | seb128, since this change requires s-i 3.0.2, yes, I meant to. The Info API is deprecated, replaced by Information. | 17:04 |
| jgdx | * deprecated in 3.0.2 that is | 17:04 |
| seb128 | right | 17:04 |
| seb128 | that's fine I guess | 17:04 |
| seb128 | the other one is more a nitpick | 17:04 |
| seb128 | but detailedVersionDetails doesn't really describe well what that contains | 17:05 |
| seb128 | but if it's already in a silo I'm not going to make you change it ;-) | 17:06 |
| seb128 | the s-i key is "version_detail" I would have named that versionDetail | 17:08 |
| seb128 | jgdx, k, approved | 17:11 |
| jgdx | seb128, sorry, I'm a bit distracted. Right, the point of that was versionDetail is the string, the “Details” means the map. | 17:16 |
| jgdx | seb128, oh okay. Thankss! | 17:16 |
| seb128 | jgdx, yw | 17:16 |
| seb128 | jgdx, right, I would just have named it versionDetailDict or something | 17:16 |
| jgdx | aah okay, sorry about that | 17:24 |
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| jgdx | seb128, sorry, the reason it's in a silo is that ken approved it | 17:52 |
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| Arska134 | Anything new about battery statistics issue? | 19:34 |
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| lotuspsychje | Arska134: maybe you find an existing bug here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Avengers | 19:37 |
| Arska134 | i mean this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1471913 | 19:39 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1471913 in Canonical System Image "[MX4] Battery statistics are incorrect" [Medium,Confirmed] | 19:39 |
| Arska134 | yup. i made some comments there. | 19:39 |
| dobey | is there any way for a click app to trap SMS messages from certain numbers? | 19:41 |
| Arska134 | Anyone else has same problem as i with battery? (Bug 1471913?) I cannot charge my phone for short periods of time because i have to wait it to jump 100 % or charging is pointless.. | 19:43 |
| ubot5 | bug 1471913 in Canonical System Image "[MX4] Battery statistics are incorrect" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1471913 | 19:43 |
| Arska134 | More info in Launchpad. Comments from "Ari Salonen" are mine ^ | 19:45 |
| dobey | well, as you can see, there is discussion on there, and others are having the issue. it is being looked into | 19:45 |
| Arska134 | Just curious why importance is medium, because problem is obviously very important | 19:50 |
| dobey | i don't know, i didn't set the importance. but it also sounds like it could very well be a hardware problem. | 19:52 |
| Arska134 | yeah thats why i am concerned if i have to send my phone back | 19:52 |
| dobey | it also appears to not affect all mx4 users, only some. | 19:52 |
| dobey | well have you contacted meizu support about the problem, or only the bug report? | 19:52 |
| Arska134 | i contacted Meizu over 2 weeks ago but they are not answering | 19:53 |
| dobey | call them on the phone? | 19:54 |
| Arska134 | I think they don't have support in my native language | 19:54 |
| dobey | i don't know if they do or not. but any hardware exchange/service you'll need to coordinate through their support system. | 19:55 |
| Arska134 | someone at launchpad commented this: "Said to be a "MTK pmic fuelguage issue", per talk with hw vendor." | 19:56 |
| Arska134 | "Currently we still don't have work around code from vendor." | 19:56 |
| Arska134 | pretty weird that this is only affecting some MX4 devices | 19:57 |
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| dobey | ok. well, if it's fixable in software, then when MTK provides the fix, it will be in an update i guess | 19:57 |
| Arska134 | i have been fingers crossed everytime update were released :D | 19:58 |
| dobey | well, monitor the bug report. when it gets marked fixed, then the fix should be in the following update from that point :) | 19:59 |
| dobey | if it requires a device exchange, then i suspect such info will end up in that report as well, to direct people on where to contact to exchange the device. | 20:00 |
| Arska134 | i'll wait and i think i'll resend my email to meizu again. | 20:00 |
| Arska134 | hopefully it will be fixed soon | 20:01 |
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| Drh451 | I am new to Ubuntu and tried installing the 14.04.3 version on a HP Pavilion a1540n I am now stuck at the login screen and it keeps looping | 20:15 |
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| Arska134 | Drh451: this is Ubuntu mobile OS channel but google found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/590561/ubuntu-14-04-login-loop-problem | 20:39 |
| dobey | Arska134: that person left ~2 minutes after making that statement :) | 20:42 |
| Arska134 | dobey: Just noticed when i hit enter :D | 20:47 |
| Arska134 | Does anyone tried to compile from Unity3D to Ubuntu Touch? | 20:48 |
| Arska134 | does it work? | 20:48 |
| Arska134 | Currently making project with Unity and would be nice to release something for Ubuntu Touch users also. :D | 20:50 |
| dobey | i don't think Unity3D has a build target that creates a valid phone package | 20:51 |
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| mcphail | Arska134: no - you can't use Unity3D for Ubuntu touch | 21:41 |
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