[01:15] <cmaloney> Evening
[01:24] <_stink_> yo
[13:33] <cmaloney> Morning
[13:42] <_stink_> yo
[13:42] <cmaloney> How goes?
[13:44] <_stink_> not bad, you?
[13:45] <cmaloney> Keepin' it real and what-not.
[13:47] <_stink_> should be on a t-shirt
[13:48] <cmaloney> nobody could buy it but me. ;)
[21:38] <jgransden> can anyone reccomend a good c++ book?
[21:42] <jrwren> jgransden: they don't exist.
[21:43] <jrwren> Effective Modern c++ is good
[21:44] <jgransden> ahh, im doomed
[21:44] <jrwren> and The C++ Programming Language by Stroustrup but make sure you get 4th edition
[21:44] <jrwren> older editions don't cover modern C++
[21:44] <jrwren> and this is good too: http://www.amazon.com/Programming-Principles-Practice-Using-Edition/dp/0321992784/ref=pd_sim_14_2?ie=UTF8&dpID=51j679vpDGL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR131%2C160_&refRID=1JNFFNG2JKMP6PXYSM9F
[21:44] <jgransden> ok
[21:44] <jrwren> but there is a LOT of really bad C++ books out there.
[21:44] <jrwren> most are just terrible
[21:45] <jrwren> there are some good videos from cppcon too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEx5DNLWGgA
[21:46] <jgransden> sweet, ill check that out. I have a class in it comming up and i dont want to be unprepared
[21:46] <jrwren> what is the class?
[21:46] <jrwren> its likely its taught poorly too :(
[21:47] <jrwren> c++ is one of the most misunderstood programming langauges ever.
[21:47] <jgransden> probably, evey thing else that ive taken has been
[21:47] <jrwren> lol
[21:47] <jrwren> yay college!
[21:47] <jgransden> yea...
[21:47] <cmaloney> I really didn't like the Stroustrup book
[21:48] <jrwren> cmaloney: the 4th edition?
[21:48] <cmaloney> The edition prior
[21:49] <cmaloney> It's like everything wrong with C++
[21:49] <cmaloney> K&R: small and concise
[21:49] <cmaloney> C++: 900-1300 pages
[21:50] <jrwren> yeah, 3rd edition was from 1997. C++ dark ages.
[21:52] <jrwren> K&R doesn't cover the c std lib.
[21:52] <jrwren> there are some intro chapters for free here: http://www.stroustrup.com/3rd_tbl.html
[21:52] <cmaloney> Right, but even with teh std lib book it doesn't reach 900+ pages. ;)
[21:53] <jrwren> right. its smaller
[21:53] <jrwren> smaller still: Go
[21:53] <jrwren> :p
[21:53] <jrwren> smaller still: modula-3 ;]
[22:03] <cmaloney> not h elping. :)
[22:34] <rick_h__> morning
[22:37] <_stink_> heh