[05:47] mornings [05:54] Mornings [06:15] morning all [06:50] morning pieter2627 [06:50] is anybody with Neotel? [07:55] nobody with neotel? [08:30] anton : u mean landline ? [08:45] fibre [08:46] currently on a poc with a 6 meg fibre, 5 for internet and 1 for to the DC in Midrand. [08:46] DC ? [08:46] DataCentre [08:46] poc ? [08:47] that must be superfast internet [08:47] proof of concept [08:47] meh it's ok [08:47] 6Mbps ? [08:48] its just ok, im not even close to know those speeds [08:48] <---GPRS [08:48] the 6 is devided in to 5 for internet usesage and then 1 meg straight to the Neotel DC in Midrand and we are in Randburg [08:49] the 1 meg is useless, if it reaches half capacity on the line i then experience anything from 40% to 70% packet loss [08:49] then my mysql replication just dies [08:50] im currently experiencing slow speeds from Vodacom [08:51] its been bad , web browsing etc [08:51] yip each 1 of us has their own battles with ISP [08:51] what happened to MTN/Voda wanting to share network charges with watsapp ?,lol [08:51] heard this long time ago , i dont know where it eneded [08:52] ola ghostcomplex [08:52] afaik mtn wants whatspapp to close and vodacom wants whatsapp to reimburse them go figure [08:53] and cell C is bad news when it comes to travellers on internet [08:53] specially down here in the Transkei areas [08:54] i dont know about the well developed cities [08:54] living in the bundus is the life [08:54] Bundus,lol [08:54] cellc is ok [08:55] how much ure paying for your Neotel connection ? [08:55] urg let me see if i can find somebody at neotel who is NOT suspended [08:55] couple of grand [08:55] lol [08:55] SNO [08:56] the so called 2nd network operator that everyone thot it wud be a problem solver cud be sleeping with the enemy( Telkom) [08:57] hi Sxuza [08:57] whats happening ghost? [08:58] are u the guy on the Power series ? [08:58] lol [08:58] lol [08:58] nope [08:58] well runningon ADSL line with VPN and my replication is abit behind but at least I'm not getting packet loss and my slave replications are not stopping [08:59] why is mtn only gunning for Whatsapp and not the other messege apps [08:59] eg: facebook-messenger [08:59] I repsume about 70% of their user base is using whatsapp [09:00] presume [09:00] same here anton [09:00] i think so too [09:00] so whatsapp is probably eating into sms and calls [09:00] personally prefer google hangouts [09:01] yip sms is a billion rand income to them [09:01] they all belong in jail for even charging for sms'es [09:01] #messaginfeesmustfall ? [09:01] they should never have been there to begin with [09:02] * Sxuza thinks MaNI 's gonna start a revolution [09:02] im waiting to support u MaNI [09:02] if I had the ability to do that I would have long ago, over much bigger issues [09:02] i also dont think i shud be buying sms bundles [09:04] whats happening to other coutries out there , are they not paying for texting ? [09:04] one of our networks has introduced free WatsApp ? [09:05] I think texting/ calling in other countries is much cheaper [09:06] but still there's a price attached to sms'es [09:07] so we're not doing what other countries are not doing. im refering to MaNI's expectations of thinking that this service shud've been free [09:09] I wonder how the profits compare between sms/calling, contracts, data purchases etc [09:10] there was an article on mybb the oterh day about how sms income has dropped on the mtn network, trying to find it [09:11] ooohhhh.....a R71million fine and looks like the JSE is going to investigate MTN for insider trading......hope you all are sellin gur mtn shares quickly [09:13] *billion [09:18] yip sorry billion [09:19] ure forgiven [09:23] good mornings [10:20] hi superfly thatgraemeguy inetpro and others [10:20] hi anton ghostcomplex [10:26] ello [10:26] wanted to ask u r u the same kilos as in avcom? [10:33] hi Kilos [10:33] no anton [10:33] im only here [10:34] ah ok [10:47] but welcome to ubuntu-za [11:33] 'lo [15:06] hmm... [15:49] Kilos: things are quiet in here these days [15:49] looks like it superfly [15:50] sad [16:05] * pieter2627 cannot believe it is meeting again tonight - time went on a jet ride [16:35] Kilos: will you be mailing the list (and africa) [16:39] oh my [16:40] inetpro ping [16:41] ill mail or list pieter2627 [16:41] bit late for warnings [16:51] Kilos: "mail or list" [16:53] btw, hoe gaan dit met oom? [16:58] ek word gou beter dankie pieter2627 [16:59] i mailed our list [16:59] pieter2627 you the chair? [17:00] should be tweet and g+ announcements as well [17:09] yes [17:10] * pieter2627 wbb soon [17:31] hi gremble [17:32] Hey Kilos [17:32] How are you? [17:32] * pieter2627 is back [17:32] Welcome back pieter2627 [17:32] ty gremble [17:45] sjoe [17:58] hi Vince-0 [17:58] wb [17:58] wassup superfly [17:59] Kilos: dis warm [17:59] ah [18:00] Kilos: just ping me when you start [18:00] will do superfly [18:00] hehe if im still awake' [18:02] Kilos: pomg [18:03] hahaha [18:03] hello inetpro [18:03] hallo [18:03] you also tired [18:03] always [18:04] i didnt g+ about the meeting in 25 mins [18:05] nor the za tweet [18:05] sigh [18:07] haai [18:15] hi clr_ [18:16] hi kilos [18:16] what's up [18:16] monthly meeting I see [18:16] meeting in 15 mins [18:16] ya [18:16] hehe [18:16] other wise id be asleep already [18:17] I wish [18:17] haha i wish i could spend more time awake [18:18] I try to get 6 hours a day of sleep [18:18] whew [18:18] does not allways work out [18:18] atm i think thats how many im awake [18:19] wow, how so [18:19] i think meds have a sleeping effect [18:19] or maybe im old [18:20] hahaha you have to be real old if you can only stay awake for 6 hours a day, no, it must be the meds [18:20] hahaha [18:20] what do you call real old [18:20] but how old is old? I mean [18:20] haha [18:21] you see, it's all relative [18:21] ah maybe relatives are making me tired [18:21] I think I might be considered real old by some of the participants here [18:21] must be meds [18:22] oh my [18:22] you real old [18:22] but then, yo might be real old to me? who knows [18:22] are you 40 yet [18:23] No, Im young, but not quite 50 [18:23] lol [18:23] you? [18:23] well looking at it like that im young but not 70 yet [18:23] 64 [18:24] haha, ok you win [18:25] * superfly is in the middle these days, at 35 [18:26] hee hee [18:27] and pro is not quite 50 either [18:29] all ready... [18:30] yip [18:30] should we ping guys Kilos [18:30] we gonna be min [18:30] inetpro superfly everyonr=e else ping [18:30] oh my [18:31] start pieter2627 [18:31] gonna be a short meeting i thik [18:31] n [18:31] Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - Oct 2015 [18:31] * Maaz_ gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:31] Maaz_ I am Miles Sharpe [18:31] Kilos: Okay [18:31] Maaz: topic Welcoming and Introduction [18:31] Current Topic: Welcoming and Introduction [18:31] Evening all and thanks for joining in on our monthly meeting [18:31] Please introduce yourselves to Maaz for the minutes using `Maaz: I am ` eg. [18:31] Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht [18:31] pieter2627: Righto [18:32] Maaz_: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:32] inetpro: Sure [18:32] the agenda for today's meeting can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20151027 [18:32] check that nothing is missing and feel free to raise anything you might want to add [18:33] * inetpro listening in with one ear [18:33] Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting [18:33] Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:33] the previous meeting's minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20150922 [18:33] please do not go and read it cause i'm in trouble for forgetting to have done stuff :P [18:33] oh my inetpro what you doing [18:33] haha pieter2627 [18:34] * inetpro busy with some work in the background [18:34] clr_ Vince-0 you guys wanna login? [18:35] Maaz: topic Plans for 2015 [18:35] Current Topic: Plans for 2015 [18:35] the drill for this is short unless someone has something to say for its topics [18:35] Maaz_: I am Raoul Snyman [18:35] superfly: Righto [18:35] Maaz: I am Vin Swart [18:35] Vince-0: Alrighty [18:35] oom clr_ ? [18:36] Maaz: topic Events [18:36] Current Topic: Events [18:36] Has anyone attended PyCon or DASA? [18:37] pieter2627: not me [18:37] everyone snowed under looks like [18:37] haha [18:37] would have liked to go to DASA [18:38] then any news for the other events - install Fest, Ubuntu hour [18:39] Ubuntu 15.10 has been released [18:39] ^^ [18:39] if anyone has anything about the 16.04 Release Party then now would be a good time [18:39] has anyone upgraded yet? [18:40] * pieter2627 wanted to on the weekend - but things... [18:40] ami is security becoming more of an isue [18:40] maaz: I am Charl le Roux [18:40] clr_: Yessir [18:40] many security updates [18:41] pieter2627: I upgraded my work PC today. No problems. [18:41] Plasma 5.4 is yum yum [18:41] * inetpro willing to wait some more before attempting to upgrade [18:42] ah ok, good to hear [18:42] but I'm using Kubuntu, not Ubuntu, so slightly different. [18:42] superfly: you using yum in place of apt? :-) [18:43] hahaha [18:43] i had to think about that [18:43] Plasma 5.4 comes with the Application Dashboard instead of Kicker (the K-menu), and it makes life so much better. It's a bit like Unity's launcher. [18:43] sounds interesting [18:44] I upgraded to 15.10, did a clean install as a matter of fact, and I am very happy [18:44] inetpro: then again, I'm a bit of a keyboard junkie. vim is my IDE of choice [18:44] the newer kernel solved some of my hardware issues with my laptop [18:45] vim ftw! [18:45] i'll go over to the next topic as we cont. talking about upgrade... [18:45] Maaz: topic Miscellaneous [18:45] Current Topic: Miscellaneous [18:45] I run ubuntu. Thought I could upgrade from 14.04, but that broke my system completely, so I had to reinsall [18:46] oh my [18:46] backed up /home hopefully [18:46] apparently you need to upgrade release by release [18:47] yes [18:47] yes, /home on another disk [18:47] only lts to lts works [18:47] that is interesting [18:47] oh, almost forgot anyone know of events for the upcoming month [18:48] right, I saw that, but then the upgrade tool allowed me to upgrade from 14.04 to 15.10, and I was.... Ok it must be possible then [18:48] lol [18:48] now you know [18:48] I normally end up doing a fresh install in any case, I prefer that [18:49] * pieter2627 never jumped a version... [18:49] i do clean installs everytime [18:49] fly upgrades [18:50] shall i cont. with the other Misc? [18:50] So, I saw someone mentioned ubuntu install fests, and meetups etc. do have them? [18:50] yip [18:50] we used to clr_ but everyone too busy now [18:51] ha ok [18:51] well the meeting is about organizing them too if i'm correct [18:51] correct [18:51] how about linuxconza [18:52] or linuxfestza [18:52] even australia have them, why not us [18:52] don't we need a linux conference in south africa [18:53] inetpro comment? [18:54] SFD was last month, how would a linuxcon differ? [18:54] closest you're gonna get is sfd ya [18:54] obsidian is getting involved [18:54] and its well organised [18:55] well, SFD is supposed to promote foss software. Linuxcon should be for business etc. etc. Like a proper conference. Like the MyBroadband conference [18:56] we just need people who are willing to step up and start arranging these events [18:57] should the ubuntu community arrange a linuxcon, or is this were Kilos's idea of getting involved with LUG's get into play? [18:57] that is where the challenge lies. A lot of these around the world grew from the local lug meetup into something bigger [18:58] i think working with lugs is a good way [18:59] Kilos: has this interaction lugs from us taken off yet? [18:59] we all linux so why the apartheid [18:59] I agree, it must be all inclusive [18:59] some of the durbs peeps were interested and jozilug but i see none of them here [19:00] get corporate sponsors, vendors, a venue, a schedule [19:00] Vince-0 is here from durbs [19:00] oh and a committee [19:00] * pieter2627 thinks this might be a good thing to start the interaction [19:00] i forgot to mail wwk [19:02] will we try this to improve the lug interaction? (quick vote pls) [19:02] Vince-0 can you chat to the durbs guys for us please [19:02] prob is we work here and they use G+ [19:03] so we need someone on both platforms [19:03] can't we sort the probs after the plan of action... [19:03] whatever works [19:04] a few here will probably be able to help [19:05] Kilos: can you contact the know lugs to see if they are keen? [19:05] Vince-0 is here from dbnlug [19:05] i forget who the jozilug guys were [19:05] ive had a slack 2 months [19:05] and gremble is at tuks lug [19:06] there were 3 of them here 3 months ago [19:06] so will you take the task for the month? [19:06] Vince-0 ^^ [19:07] haha ill need 4 more weeks of mostly sleeping i think [19:07] ai, inetpro you up for it? [19:07] :P [19:08] lol [19:08] Vince-0 and gremble are the guys to get to help [19:08] they are insiders in the lugs [19:08] i will mail wwk in durbs again though [19:09] Vince-0: could you contact the others if Kilos gave you missing details? [19:09] pieter2627: unfortunately no [19:09] * pieter2627 looking for a o/ here [19:10] * inetpro has too many forks in hands to handle [19:11] that seems to cover lugs involvement [19:11] * pieter2627 know the feeling [19:11] now for what i forgot - to create that Ubuntu-in-the-wild list on trello. will do it this month... [19:11] oh my [19:12] can I move to next topic? [19:12] ive totally even forgotten about trello [19:12] yes [19:12] Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:12] Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:12] * Kilos votes for pieter2627 [19:12] so anyone up for chairing the next meeting [19:13] +1 for pieter2627 [19:13] * pieter2627 still in [19:13] can you manage it pieter2627 [19:13] we need you [19:13] Maaz_: agreed pieter2627 to chair Nov's meeting [19:13] Agreed: pieter2627 to chair Nov's meeting [19:14] yay ty [19:14] Kilos: yes [19:14] Maaz: topic Next meeting [19:14] Current Topic: Next meeting [19:14] Next one seems to be 24 Nov right? [19:14] * pieter2627 wonders what happens in Dec [19:15] i think we have an ealy one if needed [19:15] early [19:15] ah ok [19:15] only if there is something needs discussing [19:15] Maaz_: agreed Next meeting is 24 November 2015 @ 20:30 [19:15] Agreed: Next meeting is 24 November 2015 @ 20:30 [19:16] 22 dec should be fine [19:16] thanks all for joining hope to see at the next one [19:16] Maaz: end meeting [19:16] Meeting Ended [19:16] Minutes available at json: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-10-27-18-31-32.json :: txt: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-10-27-18-31-32.txt :: html: http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2015-10-27-18-31-32.html [19:16] you not on holiday inetpro [19:16] ty pieter2627 [19:16] np [19:16] * inetpro is always on holiday [19:17] lol [19:17] i need a holiday [19:17] long one [19:17] * pieter2627 just sometimes which IRC had an indicator for when others are typing so he knows when it is same to change topics [19:17] s/which/wish/ [19:18] ya that would be cool [19:18] agg s/same/safe/ [19:18] now its sit and wait [19:18] * pieter2627 is too tired it seems [19:18] tired bug is in the air [19:19] oh no, what to wait for? [19:19] answers [19:20] Kilos: you have another meeting? [19:20] nono [19:20] i meant [19:20] with out the typing indicator [19:21] like with pidgin [19:21] i think africa gonna have another missed meeting tomorrow night [19:22] oh, thought you were talking about something else [19:22] ill try remember to mail that list [19:22] im half asleep here now [19:22] hehe [19:23] pieter2627 do you do g+ [19:23] else we will fill in with the mail if you miss it so don't stress [19:23] i'm on it - have never used the social networks [19:23] actually it seems all linux peeps are very busy [19:24] have only tweeted twice or so [19:24] um [19:24] but am planning on using g+ soon for something [19:24] the pro is the man [19:24] but too busy [19:24] why do you ask? [19:24] you uncapped [19:24] yes [19:25] because i dont use it [19:25] and the lugs all live there i think [19:25] dbnlug hhave hangouts there [19:26] once again must be someone with time [19:26] i see, well one can learn if needs be [19:27] * pieter2627 just would like to see all helping as they can [19:28] lets see if we can get all the info and then you can join them in this coming month [19:28] but come to think of it even the dbn mailing list has gone wuiet [19:29] unless i broke something here again [19:29] quiet [19:29] ok, lets do so [19:29] whew [19:29] ill mail wwk and let you know [19:30] and Vince-0 can give us his details [19:30] great, chat again tomorrow - am tired typing in wrong order it seems [19:30] yeah ty for chairing [19:31] np [19:31] night all . sleep tight [19:31] night all [19:32] good night pie[tab] [19:32] oh and good night oom Kilos as well [19:33] sleep tight inetpro [19:33] pas jou op man [20:01] new Axxess/Afrihost network... https://ipinfo.io/AS37611 [20:06] Apparently I'm getting amazing speeds... http://pasteboard.co/1Hdu7XDS.png