[01:22] <darkxst> robert_ancell, was there some reason why you didnt just sync gnome-documents from Debian?
[01:22] <robert_ancell> darkxst, didn't check the debian version - can sync
[01:24] <robert_ancell> darkxst, done
[01:26] <darkxst> thanks
[04:32] <nabn> anyone here experience gnome-shell taking up ~100% cpu more often than not? I wonder what's that about..
[06:20] <nabn> so dark in here..
[06:21] <mgedmin> gnome-shell eating all cpu?  I don't think I've ever seen that
[06:21] <mgedmin> the obvious 1st question is: do you have any shell extensions enabled?
[06:21] <mgedmin> the 2nd question is: are you using hardware 3d rendering or llvmpipe?
[06:24] <mgedmin> and if the two questions don't provide any clues, it's probably time to pull out a profiler
[06:24] <mgedmin> is there any sysprof-like gui for perf/oprofile, I wonder?
[06:25] <nabn> mgedmin: i do have a couple extensions. tried disabling them, but can't be sure if it worked, coz the problem is  not consistent.
[06:27] <nabn> mgedmin: htop output right now: http://imgur.com/rQjWX6m
[06:29] <darkxst> Noskcaj, can you merge gnome-desktop3?
[06:29] <Noskcaj> darkxst, to xenial or ppa?
[06:30] <darkxst> xenial
[06:30] <Noskcaj> ok, i should be able to get to that later
[06:34] <darkxst> Noskcaj, thanks, i've done mutter/shell/g-s-d so far
[08:31] <mgedmin> gnome-calendar (wily/universe) seems rather broken (segfaults on startup after failing to build a template class GcalWindow)
[08:32] <mgedmin> can anyone confirm?
[08:32] <darkxst> mgedmin, crashed here on xenial
[08:32] <mgedmin> rather, can anyone who has a stock 15.10 without the -staging ppa confirm?
[08:34]  * mgedmin files https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-calendar/+bug/1510830
[09:39] <mgedmin> (I want to test the hypothesis that gnome-calendar crash might be caused by gnome-calendar 3.16 using libraries from gnome 3.18)
[09:39] <mgedmin> (I should probably set up a chroot or something -- but I don't think I have enough free disk space for that)
[09:43] <darkxst> mgedmin, it works in clean wily install
[09:44] <darkxst> 3.18 should sync to xenial now, e-d-s is going through
[09:46]  * mgedmin updates bug with quotes from IRC
[10:54] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Hello.
[10:55] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Is it possible to change the dns servers while running a wifi connection without disconnecting?
[10:55] <darkxst> j4s0nmchr1st0s, yes should be
[10:55] <darkxst> just edit the wifi network and network-manager should update them for you
[10:56] <darkxst> on the fly
[10:56] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> in this case it runs on the pub tor net so use check.torproject.org just as or browser does.
[10:56] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> darkxst: no looking at connection info it stays the same
[10:57] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> secondary dns unchanged
[10:58] <darkxst> j4s0nmchr1st0s, maybe a bug, though I generally just edit /etc/resolv.conf if I need a temporary dns change
[10:58] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> darkxst: doesn't ubuntu gnome have the loopback resolver?
[10:59] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> the nameservers are stored somwhere else
[10:59] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> possibly in the memory of NetworkManage
[11:00] <darkxst> yes, but i am talking temporary 1off changes, that I probably want gone next time I reconnect
[11:04] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> ok then I have to add all three
[11:19] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> darkxst: looks like it doesn't cycle
[11:19] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> if it is appended
[11:19] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> And also guessing there is some hardcoded nameservers in network manager if it decides to function like this.
[11:20] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> It is really trying to bypass the system resolver/
[11:20] <darkxst> nameservers can come from about 5 different places depending on your config
[11:21] <darkxst> but /etc/resolv.conf should be the definitive ones, just any changes get overwritten any time you reconnect
[11:22] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> should, it isn't cycling
[11:26] <darkxst> idk
[11:26]  * darkxst sleeps
[13:39] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> darkxst clown the dns is not cycling
[13:40] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> it only uses the loopback
[13:40] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> even with the dns added to NetworkManager
[13:41] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> Whatever the loopback is using it isn't including the secondary dns results
[13:50] <mgedmin> dns is complicated
[13:51] <mgedmin> (on ubuntu)
[13:51] <mgedmin> there's /etc/resolv.conf, which ought to be a symlink pointing to a file managed either by resolvconf or by network-manager
[13:51] <mgedmin> then you might or might not have a local dnsmasq installed
[13:51] <mgedmin> then you might or might not have resolvconf installed
[13:52] <mgedmin> and then network-manager runs its own copy of dnsmasq
[13:54] <mgedmin> afaiu the network-manager-managed dnsmasq listens on 127.0.1.1
[13:54] <mgedmin> and forwards the queries to upstream DNS servers/implements split dns/whatever
[13:54] <mgedmin> so things to test: is /etc/resolv.conf pointing to 127.0.1.1?
[13:54] <mgedmin> if you query manually (host example.com 127.0.1.1), do you get the result you expect?
[14:00] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> yes so it is not even using the secondary and tertiary servers
[14:00] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> for that matter it may not even use the primary
[14:01] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> I shall have to watch netstat later.
[14:02] <mgedmin> "The algorithm used is to try a name server, and if the query times out, try the next"
[14:02] <mgedmin> but usually queries don't time out, instead you get a NXDOMAIN response
[14:16] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> mgedmin: it used to cycle
[14:17] <j4s0nmchr1st0s> mgedmin: looks like ubuntu is devolving
[14:18] <mgedmin> "it" == the glibc resolver?
[16:13] <mgedmin> hm
[16:13] <mgedmin> since I upgraded to wily I notice this again:
[16:13] <mgedmin> when I wake up my sleeping laptop (by opening the lid), I briefly see my desktop session before the lock screen appears
[16:13] <mgedmin> I don't remember this in vivid
[16:13] <mgedmin> I do remember how this used to annoy me at some point in the past before vivid
[17:11] <kerdel> Hi
[19:45] <Noskcaj> darkxst, can you please sync gnome-mahjongg
[19:47] <Noskcaj> also tali
[20:17] <th3s3_3y3s> usermod -G group -a group USER doesn't work, what can be used to look and see all groups on the system or look for a specific group?
[20:38] <darkxst> Noskcaj, done
[22:40] <th3s3_3y3s> Is there a metapackage for ubuntu-gnome?