[01:17] <balloons> flocculant, are you filing these when you think of them?
[01:18] <balloons> I know i know, but if you are someone like me, you forget things. I find it much better to write it down
[12:06] <slickymasterWork> flocculant, bug 1510911
[13:27] <flocculant> balloons: I didn't because qa website bugs ;) but bug 1510939
[13:27] <balloons> afternoon to you
[13:28] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: ok - thanks, I'll check later to see if it's globalbuntu
[13:28] <flocculant> balloons: :)
[13:39] <akxwi-dave> Testing pidgin
[13:40] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: I think that's probably tied up with the same as bug 1447038 - I certainly haven't been able to successfully reboot vbox from a clean install
[13:44] <flocculant> had stopped reporting vb issues tbh
[13:44] <flocculant> I guess that needs to get fixed for LTS
[14:38] <slickymasterWork> my thoughts exactly, flocculant
[15:23] <balloons> vbox can be interesting at times
[15:26] <slickymasterWork> and a pain most of the times balloons ;)
[15:26] <balloons> I actually have come around to qemu recently
[15:27]  * slickymasterWork definitely has to give it a try
[17:31] <flocculant> balloons: qemu is fine - but if no-one tested with vbox to see it fail - constantly - then devs wouldn't have the first clue that it did fail - constantly ;)
[17:32] <flocculant> and the qemu thing I tried - but not at all intuitive, had issues making it use something as the place to store that was external
[17:32] <balloons> flocculant, qemu isn't point and click indeed
[17:32] <balloons> which is a positive and a negative
[17:32] <flocculant> also grabs iso's owns them by root and then zsync fails
[17:33] <flocculant> balloons: well Ubuntu is supposedly for humans ;)
[17:33] <balloons> yep.. it needs some hand holding, but it can be scripte
[17:33] <balloons> I was just pointing it out, not recommending someone who needs to run ubuntu in a VM to use it, heh
[17:33] <flocculant> so all in all - I'd rather fail the iso using vbox - which is what normal people use
[17:33] <balloons> yep
[17:34] <flocculant> balloons: yea totally understand - just giving the other opinion :)
[17:34] <balloons> it's well said
[17:34] <flocculant> the root owned iso really annoys me - ended up needing to keep seperate ones :)
[17:36]  * flocculant has the headache from hell
[17:36] <flocculant> again
[17:50] <flocculant> cyphermox: so ... virtual box - as much as I understand that you all use qemu and don't see the fail to remove the media issue - are we really going to release LTS with that issue? Given that the likelihood is that *normal* people would use something like virtualbox or vmware
[17:51] <flocculant> bug 1510911 is the latest one of those - I've changed it from ubiquity to casper - but only because another one is casper
[17:51] <cyphermox> flocculant: well, I'm not sure what other steps we can take to get the CD to eject
[17:51] <cyphermox> flocculant: is it just that or does Enter not work either?
[17:52] <flocculant> I doubt if anything has changed since wily - so it just sits there - Enter does nothing, you have to kill the guest
[17:53] <flocculant> if Enter at least did something that would be better than what there is
[17:54] <dkessel> bug 1447038 affects me too
[17:54] <flocculant> dkessel: it will
[17:54] <flocculant> all of them will
[17:55] <flocculant> cyphermox: I'm just bringing it up now at the beginning rather than the end of March next :p
[17:55] <cyphermox> good plan ;)
[17:56] <flocculant> cyphermox: if I need to "If you install with vbox (or whatever) it will fail to eject - kill the guest, no-one can fix this" after being told that by people who know - then I'm happy to do that
[17:56] <flocculant> just didn't want it to float about with loads of dupes :)
[17:58] <flocculant> back to holding my head and moaning pitifully to myself for a bit
[18:01] <cyphermox> flocculant: I plan on installing some free vmware soonish
[18:02] <flocculant> cyphermox: don't get me wrong - I ONLY use vm to test dailies and packages now and again, I just know that other people do use it as an actual install
[18:07] <flocculant> I guess my issue is how it looks to people outside :)