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| profetik777 | test | 03:21 |
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| profetik777 | anyone here? | 03:21 |
| duflu | Nobody in here but us chickens | 03:28 |
| JMD | lol | 03:40 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:35 |
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| om26er | on image 153, i can't enable adb, help ? | 08:15 |
| jibel | om26er, which device? | 08:32 |
| om26er | jibel, arale | 08:45 |
| om26er | jibel, the developer mode switch gets turned on, when I open the developer mode page again, its back to "off" | 08:46 |
| jibel | om26er, maybe it'll break in a couple of days then :) most recent build on arale is 153 | 08:46 |
| jibel | om26er, which channel? | 08:46 |
| om26er | jibel, rc-proposed | 08:47 |
| om26er | ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/meizu.en-proposed | 08:47 |
| jibel | om26er, why propopoed-porposed? It's a channel for testing custom tarballs | 08:48 |
| jibel | ouch proposed/-proposed | 08:48 |
| om26er | jibel, hmm, i have been testing on that channel for a while, which channel do you recommend ? | 08:49 |
| jibel | om26er, rc-proposed/meizu.en | 08:49 |
| jibel | om26er, anyway it shouldn't make a difference for adb | 08:49 |
| jibel | om26er, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Channels | 08:54 |
| om26er | jibel, thanks | 08:56 |
| ghwomb_ | I've got an Bq Aquaris 5 and been bitten by the No Sound Bug. How can I find out which app that muted my phone? I do get sound through the headphone if it is attached. | 08:57 |
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| JamesTait | Good morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy International Animation Day! 😃 | 10:04 |
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| ghwomb_ | hello | 10:28 |
| abeato | pstolowski, hi, how are things going with silo 4? I noticed that there is now just one package not built for vivid | 10:35 |
| pstolowski | abeato, indeed. i'm on it, will update you soon | 10:39 |
| abeato | pstolowski, great, thanks | 10:41 |
| ghwomb_ | Does anybody here know how to unmute the sound on my BQ Aquarius 5? I think I muted it with Cut the Rope, but that app has since kind of turned ransomware. | 10:51 |
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| zelle | is there a public searchable/downloadable archive of ubuntu-phone mailing list? | 11:30 |
| Ghwomb | https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/ perhaps? | 11:32 |
| zelle | Ghwomb, thank you, I know this site. But there I couldn't find a way to do text seach, e.g. to get all mails which have "apt" in their body. Any suggestion? Thank you. | 11:38 |
| greyback_ | zelle: use google: https://www.google.ie/?gws_rd=cr,ssl#q=site:https:%2F%2Flists.launchpad.net%2Fubuntu-phone%2F+apt | 11:41 |
| Ghwomb | Paste into Google: site:https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/ apt | 11:41 |
| zelle | greyback_, Ghwomb: Thank you very much! | 11:42 |
| Ghwomb | You're welcome | 11:42 |
| john-mcaleely | anyone else seeing adb broken on rc-proposed latest | 11:54 |
| john-mcaleely | ? | 11:54 |
| john-mcaleely | jibel, I see it broken on #159 krillin | 11:54 |
| jibel | john-mcaleely, fresh flash with bootstrap? | 11:55 |
| john-mcaleely | oh, interesting. with a reboot, the setting has changed to off | 11:55 |
| john-mcaleely | jibel, yes, fresh flash. Actually with new device tarball, but given what om26er said, I think it's not the device tarball :-) | 11:55 |
| jibel | john-mcaleely, om26er said it was broken on arale but I didn't reproduce the problem on any device | 11:56 |
| john-mcaleely | hrm | 11:56 |
| jibel | there was a new system settings yesterday but it was already on previous image | 11:57 |
| john-mcaleely | jibel, I will repro on a stock image, then open a bug | 11:57 |
| jibel | john-mcaleely, ok | 11:57 |
| ogra_ | what john-mcaleely describes looks more like a backend issue than system-settings though | 11:57 |
| ogra_ | (auto-off after reboot) | 11:57 |
| john-mcaleely | oh, interesting | 11:58 |
| jibel | ogra_, yeah but I was checking if a recent landing could have potentially broken this | 11:58 |
| ogra_ | the low level is handled by android-gadget-service ... it proivides a dbus api that system-settings uses | 11:59 |
| jibel | ogra_, that would be in the device tarball? | 12:00 |
| popey | I just updated and adb works here... | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | no | 12:00 |
| ogra_ | thats a package in the rootfs | 12:01 |
| john-mcaleely | maybe you need to fresh flash as well then | 12:01 |
| john-mcaleely | I --bootstrap | 12:01 |
| jibel | anyhow just new langpacks and dialer/messaging/contact and ntpdate changed. nothing adb related | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | jibel, it sets a persistent poroperty though ... if that one is broken in the device tarball that can cause havoc | 12:03 |
| ogra_ | john-mcaleely, ^^^ | 12:04 |
| jibel | john-mcaleely, from the ML you're not alone | 12:04 |
| john-mcaleely | ogra_, just checking on stock device tarball (that's not changed in aaaageees) | 12:05 |
| jibel | aaaageees being 2 months :) | 12:06 |
| john-mcaleely | yeah | 12:06 |
| john-mcaleely | aaaaageees would be 3 months! | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | thats aaages ! | 12:06 |
| ogra_ | (is that two weeks ?) | 12:06 |
| john-mcaleely | possibly | 12:06 |
| john-mcaleely | might not ever be ages if it's weeks | 12:07 |
| ogra_ | hah | 12:07 |
| john-mcaleely | confirmed on stock | 12:11 |
| john-mcaleely | https://bugs.launchpad.net/canonical-devices-system-image/+bug/1510919 | 12:11 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1510919 in Canonical System Image "adb not responding" [Undecided,New] | 12:11 |
| john-mcaleely | jibel, ^ :-( | 12:15 |
| jibel | ack | 12:16 |
| Ghwomb | Is there anyone who can help me unmute the sound on my BQ Aquaris 5? Cut the Rope and PathWind is unmuted, system reset did not help. | 12:17 |
| ogra_ | john-mcaleely, jibel, not on upgraded systems though | 12:20 |
| jibel | ogra_, yeah, a bootstrap of krillin and it's broken | 12:22 |
| ogra_ | right | 12:22 |
| jibel | you don't have too reboot, just close/open system-settings and the setting is gone | 12:22 |
| john-mcaleely | aha | 12:23 |
| jibel | to* | 12:23 |
| john-mcaleely | also broken on 158 | 12:23 |
| ogra_ | does /data/property/persist.sys.usb.config exist ? | 12:24 |
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| jibel | john-mcaleely, and since our automated tests flash with dev mode it escaped the tests :( | 12:25 |
| john-mcaleely | hahahaha. trying to boot to recovery on my broken 158 device, it's auto-installing 159 | 12:26 |
| john-mcaleely | I wonder when we'll fix *that* bug | 12:26 |
| john-mcaleely | (to see if that file ogra_ is curious about is present) | 12:26 |
| ogra_ | oh, i meant on a running system :) | 12:27 |
| john-mcaleely | well, that would mean installing terminal... | 12:27 |
| john-mcaleely | I thought recovery would be easier :-) | 12:27 |
| ogra_ | it should contain "mtp,adb" (no newline at the end) | 12:27 |
| jibel | john-mcaleely, ogra_ there is this warning in system-settings logs | 12:31 |
| jibel | 2015-10-28 12:20:55,500 - WARNING - QQmlExpression: Expression file:///usr/share/ubuntu/settings/system/qml-plugins/about/DevMode.qml:94:30 depends on non-NOTIFYable properties: | 12:31 |
| jibel | 2015-10-28 12:20:55,501 - WARNING - StorageAbout::developerMode | 12:31 |
| jibel | not sure if it means anything | 12:32 |
| ulrichard | Is there any hope for GPS on the aquaris 4.5? | 12:33 |
| jibel | john-mcaleely, yeah and no syslog because it's owned by the wrong group again :( | 12:34 |
| ogra_ | ulrichard, works fine here if i disable wlan | 12:35 |
| ogra_ | (using uNAV from the store) | 12:36 |
| ulrichard | ogra_: seriaously, the Wlan interferes with the GPS antenna? How did you find that out? Trying... | 12:39 |
| ogra_ | ulrichard, no, it doesnt, the phone uses AGPS to find the GPS position faster ... | 12:40 |
| ogra_ | if you move and have WLAN enabled it probably isnt fast enough to get an answer from the AGPS DB to find the position or some such | 12:41 |
| jibel | john-mcaleely, aha, on another device upgraded to 159 with adb enabled, I cannot *disable* dev mode | 12:41 |
| ogra_ | it isnt an antenna problem, more one with the HERE provider | 12:41 |
| ogra_ | the guy who wrote uNAV found that, wasnt me :) | 12:42 |
| ogra_ | but following his advice gets me a stable GPS here | 12:42 |
| ulrichard | ogra_ : So maybe my phone has a hardware problem? The following command never returned anything not even on a mountain top: ubuntu-location-serviced-cli --bus system --get --property visible_space_vehicles | 12:44 |
| ogra_ | ah, thats a tvoss thing ... i havent played much with the location service commandline tools ... | 12:45 |
| ulrichard | ogra: So far I assumed all aquaris 4.5 GPS were not working, and would be fixed with some future system upgrade... | 12:46 |
| ogra_ | did you agree to the HERE terms and conditions ? | 12:47 |
| ogra_ | it shoudl definitely get your position from wlan if you dont move ... and it should also het a GPS position if there is line-of-sight between you and the sattelites (outdorrs) | 12:48 |
| popey | Interestingly I see no satellites on my rc-proposed e4.5 | 12:48 |
| popey | but loads on my stable e4.5 | 12:48 |
| ogra_ | where it fails is when you move out of range of the WLAN and still have AGPS on | 12:49 |
| ulrichard | ogra_ : Is that required for the GPS to work? One reason to switch away from android was that I didn't want BigBrother to watch my every step. | 12:49 |
| ogra_ | there is no big brother :) | 12:49 |
| ogra_ | it doesnt send any info about you apart from asking "what sattelites should i be seeing when in range for these wlans" | 12:50 |
| ogra_ | and with the returned data it will only query these specific satellites, so it connects a lot faster | 12:50 |
| ogra_ | if you disable HERE/AGPS you should still get a GPS fix after the usual 15-30 min | 12:51 |
| ulrichard | ogra_ : So how does it not send the info about the WLAN's in rage? | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | (if you are outdoors or close to a window) | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | it does send that info ... but no other info | 12:51 |
| ogra_ | nobody could guess from whom the request comes | 12:52 |
| ogra_ | (at least not without additional data that you would have to provide yourself) | 12:52 |
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| ogra_ | jibel, werll, do you see the contents of /data/property/persist.sys.usb.config change when you toggle the switch ? | 13:02 |
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| jgdx | jibel, ogra_: not seeing this on rc-proposed r272 on Mako. | 13:10 |
| ogra_ | jgdx, seems to only happen when you do a --bootstrap install | 13:12 |
| jgdx | okay | 13:12 |
| jibel | ogra_, it's a problem with the port of system-settings to uitk 1.3 | 13:19 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 13:19 |
| ogra_ | well, or the missing port of android-gadget-service to some new dbus model | 13:20 |
| ogra_ | could be either side thats broken :) | 13:20 |
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| balloons | Elleo, hey, I didn't ping you back the link yesterday, sorry about that. Here's the session and day/time slot. Let me know if it all looks good. http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22608/game-development-for-the-ubuntu-phone/ | 13:47 |
| Elleo | balloons: yep, looks good :) | 13:49 |
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| Elleo | kenvandine: are there any instructions on packaging apps for use via libertine? | 14:02 |
| kenvandine | Elleo, libertine apps are just debs from the archive | 14:03 |
| kenvandine | so you can install them with apt-get | 14:03 |
| kenvandine | actually | 14:03 |
| kenvandine | not apt-get :) | 14:03 |
| kenvandine | libertine_container_manager | 14:03 |
| kenvandine | can install them | 14:03 |
| kenvandine | Elleo, however... only the demo apps are launchable :) | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | unless you craft your own desktop files | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | libertine_container_manager install-package -i puritine -p gimp | 14:04 |
| kenvandine | Elleo, assuming your container is named puritine | 14:05 |
| Elleo | kenvandine: cool, thanks | 14:05 |
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| letatcest | Hi, i have a problem with adb devices after flasing to the ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/meizu.en channel | 14:23 |
| letatcest | ie. the device cannot be found anymore | 14:24 |
| cwayne | letatcest: seems to be a known issue, just saw a mail about it on the mailing list | 14:24 |
| jgdx | letatcest, bug 1510919 | 14:25 |
| ubot5 | bug 1510919 in ubuntu-ui-toolkit (Ubuntu) "developer mode toggle does nothing" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510919 | 14:25 |
| letatcest | Ah! nice it is known ;) but how do I flash to another | 14:25 |
| letatcest | ah, thanks (it was of course we wanted to try the convergence! which didn't work with the rc-proposed channel, or we missed something of course) | 14:26 |
| mhall119 | oSoMoN: would you be able to run a session at UOS next week discussing how the ubuntu browser was designed to adapt between phone, tablet and desktop form factors? | 14:29 |
| letatcest | so.. how would I flash back to the stable image without adb present? | 14:29 |
| letatcest | by the way, it may not be very important now. How could we check if 'convergence' actually works? We have a usb-hdmi-cable, but if we use it, nothing happens on the compter screen | 14:31 |
| oSoMoN | mhall119, I could probably do that, if there’s interest in it. not sure how long a session on that topic can be, it’s not really rocket science | 14:38 |
| mhall119 | oSoMoN: I know, but it's a really nice example of adapting intelligently, rather than just "scaling up" | 14:39 |
| mcphail | That "libertine" thing looks interesting. How would a package like The GIMP work if it is running under confinement? Will Ubuntu Personal relax the confinement rules so packages can access more files and directories? | 14:40 |
| mhall119 | pmcgowan: can your team propose a few topics around convergence to either discuss what you'll be working on this cycle or show off what is already landing/landed? | 14:41 |
| mhall119 | mcphail: find out on next week's exciting episode of "Ubuntu Online Summit" :) | 14:41 |
| mcphail | Ha! Would I need to register? | 14:42 |
| pmcgowan | mhall119, bfiller could, probably most interesting for new app layouts | 14:42 |
| pmcgowan | mhall119, if that was the topic for osomon, you could do a session to cover all the apps inc browser | 14:43 |
| mhall119 | pmcgowan: ack, I've got a designer who is going to talk about designing adaptive UIs | 14:43 |
| mhall119 | pmcgowan: that would be great | 14:43 |
| pmcgowan | lets see what bill says | 14:44 |
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| abeato | pstolowski, hey, I the next/prev buttons in indicator-sound are not enabled when I play something from the scope | 15:25 |
| abeato | pstolowski, however they are when using music-app | 15:25 |
| abeato | jhodapp, ^^ | 15:25 |
| pstolowski | abeato, are you using my test mp3 files or your own? | 15:25 |
| abeato | pstolowski, my own | 15:25 |
| abeato | pstolowski, but I see songs grouped in albums | 15:26 |
| pstolowski | abeato, may be a difference in how music app uses qml playlist | 15:26 |
| abeato | so should be the same | 15:26 |
| pstolowski | abeato, the scope exposes playlist with tracks from *same* album only (of currently played song) | 15:26 |
| abeato | pstolowski, yep, I am seeing that | 15:26 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, so you call playlist.addSource() for an album at a time? | 15:27 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, if you're only adding one track, then the buttons will remain disabled | 15:27 |
| pstolowski | jhodapp, i'm not, scope is not doing anything qml side. tsdgeos ? | 15:27 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, oh what's interacting with the playlist then? | 15:28 |
| pstolowski | jhodapp, the scopes asks mediascanner lib for other songs of same album, and adds all them to the list. this works well with the mp3s I linked to in the email. | 15:28 |
| pstolowski | jhodapp, unity8 & tsdgeos's code | 15:28 |
| jhodapp | abeato, try looking at the media-hub output when you press play on an album in the new scope...you should see if one track is added or many | 15:29 |
| jhodapp | and if added to the same player & playlist object instance | 15:29 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: many | 15:30 |
| tsdgeos | othewise you could not skip in the indicator | 15:30 |
| tsdgeos | and you can | 15:30 |
| tsdgeos | i don't know why there's a delay of like 5 seconds though | 15:30 |
| tsdgeos | here's the code https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/audioCardSupport/+merge/271605 | 15:30 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, what delay? | 15:30 |
| tsdgeos | everything freezes | 15:31 |
| pstolowski | yeah, what i mentioned in the emailk | 15:31 |
| tsdgeos | basically what pawel mentions in the email | 15:31 |
| pstolowski | :) | 15:31 |
| jhodapp | yeah I've seen that as well occasionally...do either of you have a lot of wifi APs nearby or a roaming wifi network? | 15:32 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, tsdgeos ^ | 15:32 |
| tsdgeos | nope | 15:32 |
| pstolowski | i've 5 APs in the neighborhood, but how would that affect it only when hitting play? | 15:33 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, there's been some general dbus slowness that we've been trying to track down...one that seems associated with roaming wifi | 15:34 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, so you only see this when you hit play? can you describe what happens a bit more step by step? | 15:34 |
| pstolowski | jhodapp, i'm following the steps from bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1496736 | 15:35 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1496736 in Canonical System Image "currentSource of Playlist gets set to empty" [High,In progress] | 15:35 |
| pstolowski | jhodapp, after step 3 it starts playing immediately, but UI is unresponsive for a few seconds | 15:35 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, ok | 15:36 |
| jhodapp | abeato, so this would be what we should track down ^ | 15:36 |
| pstolowski | abeato, if your songs are not considered to be a single album as expected during playback in music scope, can you check their tags (compare with songs I shared?), or share them with me so I can take a look. it would be good to understand why that is happening | 15:37 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, do you see the next/previous enable in indicator-sound when you play an album with the new music-scope? | 15:40 |
| lotuspsychje | dobey: awake mate? | 15:41 |
| pstolowski | jhodapp, yes, and they work | 15:41 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, ok great, then abeato must be hitting a scenario like you just mentioned then | 15:41 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, tsdgeos btw, give silo 9 a try...these have all the rest of the background playlist fixes and would appreciate you testing your silo with silo 9 | 15:42 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: ok | 15:42 |
| pstolowski | jhodapp, sure | 15:42 |
| jhodapp | thanks | 15:42 |
| jhodapp | abeato, looks like the currentSource being empty isn't happening anymore according to tsdgeos so would you mind seeing if you can reproduce and trace what's causing the ~5s delay when pressing play from the new music-scope? | 15:44 |
| abeato | jhodapp, yep, trying to track that down | 15:45 |
| jhodapp | abeato, awesome thanks...I'll join you in that hunt after I test our silo | 15:45 |
| abeato | jhodapp, what I have seen some times is duplicated entries in the list | 15:45 |
| abeato | jhodapp, have you ever seen that? | 15:45 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, do you call addTrack(QUrl) one at a time, or can you use the new addTracks(QList<QUrl>)? | 15:46 |
| jhodapp | abeato, from the media-hub side? | 15:46 |
| jhodapp | or in the new scope? | 15:46 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: one at a time | 15:46 |
| abeato | I'd say it's media-hub | 15:46 |
| jhodapp | abeato, I haven't seen that no | 15:46 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, I'd recommend using the new addTracks()...it performs much better | 15:47 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: any reason for such a difference? i'm not even playing at that point | 15:48 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, also, just a note, but the tracks aren't gauranteed to have been added to the tracklist until you get a trackInserted() signal | 15:48 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, dbus performance issues | 15:48 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, tvoss is looking into it...most likely a dbus-cpp issue | 15:48 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: what does that mean "the tracks aren't guaranteed to have been added" | 15:49 |
| tsdgeos | that i need to wait before play? | 15:49 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, yes | 15:49 |
| tsdgeos | hoesntly that API is bad then | 15:49 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, it's the MPRIS spec | 15:49 |
| tsdgeos | as a API user, i add tracks and play | 15:50 |
| tsdgeos | if you need to wait for something | 15:50 |
| jhodapp | not my design :) | 15:50 |
| tsdgeos | it's your problem, not something the user needs to care about | 15:50 |
| tsdgeos | i'm not using the mpris speac | 15:50 |
| tsdgeos | i'm usong the Audio object | 15:50 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, but you're a user of the API and that's how it works | 15:50 |
| tsdgeos | i'm just saying the API is bad | 15:51 |
| jhodapp | why does it matter anyway, it's not like it's going to take seconds | 15:51 |
| jhodapp | milliseconds | 15:51 |
| tsdgeos | makes all its users worry about something they should not worry about | 15:51 |
| jhodapp | in your opinion | 15:51 |
| jhodapp | there's reasons for it | 15:52 |
| tsdgeos | all i say it's always in my opinion | 15:52 |
| tsdgeos | obviously :D | 15:52 |
| tsdgeos | what is one of the reasons? | 15:52 |
| jhodapp | right, and I'm just explaining I can't change it as we're following the MPRIS spec | 15:52 |
| jhodapp | the mediaCount for the playlist is not correct until that signal has fired | 15:53 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: you're telling me the api is one such that addTrack() followed by a "give me the numbers of tracks" returns 0? | 15:54 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, well 0 or whatever it was last time...it's asynchronous | 15:55 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, read the note here: http://specifications.freedesktop.org/mpris-spec/latest/Track_List_Interface.html#Method:AddTrack | 15:56 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: there's no addTracks in there | 15:57 |
| tsdgeos | are we making the API better? | 15:57 |
| pstolowski | jhodapp, no improvement with silo 9 when it comes to 5 secs freeze | 15:57 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, ok | 15:57 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, yes only because of our dbus issues | 15:58 |
| abeato | pstolowski, I still do not see the indicator-sound buttons enabled with your mp3 files | 15:58 |
| pstolowski | abeato, interesting | 15:58 |
| tsdgeos | abeato: where are you playing from? | 15:58 |
| abeato | pstolowski, I go to the album and start playing one of the songs | 15:58 |
| jhodapp | abeato, what does the media-hub output look like? do you see multiple tracks added? | 15:59 |
| pstolowski | abeato, no, you need to go to tracks department and play the track | 15:59 |
| abeato | jhodapp, only one mp3 added to the track list | 15:59 |
| jhodapp | oh well that's why | 15:59 |
| pstolowski | abeato, and you need to be playing the track from the results list (play button over the song card), not from the preview - see my screenshot | 15:59 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, how do you get to the results list? | 16:00 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: he already said "you need to go to tracks department and play the track" | 16:00 |
| tsdgeos | do you know what the tracks department is? | 16:01 |
| tsdgeos | i can confirm the freeze is not gone with silo 9 | 16:01 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, I don't, no...I need to try again though because I had nothing valid showing last time I tried silo 4 the other day | 16:02 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: abeato: http://i.imgur.com/1OLzfsb.png | 16:04 |
| tsdgeos | the tracks department | 16:05 |
| abeato | tsdgeos, got it | 16:05 |
| jhodapp | ok | 16:05 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, oh I see you can select a category | 16:06 |
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| ahayzen | Hi, anyone noticed after the recent unity8 update that 'flicking' doesn't work anymore in various places, such as the app spread and indicators ? | 16:11 |
| jhodapp | ahayzen, I just noticed that today as well in the initial setup wizard | 16:11 |
| ahayzen | :( | 16:12 |
| * ahayzen wonders if there a bug report somewhere | 16:12 | |
| pmcgowan | ahayzen, how are you seeing that? | 16:14 |
| ahayzen | pmcgowan, for example, open loads of apps and open the spread, then press, drag a little bit a lift...before it would carry the velocity .. now things just stop instantly | 16:14 |
| jhodapp | pmcgowan, I see it when scrolling through the wifi list on the initial setup wizard | 16:15 |
| ahayzen | same happens when scrolling horizontally/vertically in the indicators | 16:15 |
| ahayzen | and on the launcher | 16:15 |
| Ghwomb | Is there anyone who can help me unmute the sound on my BQ Aquaris 5? Cut the Rope and PathWind is unmuted, system reset did not help. | 16:15 |
| pmcgowan | ahayzen, I see bah | 16:16 |
| pmcgowan | Saviq, ^^ | 16:16 |
| pmcgowan | hmm not sure | 16:17 |
| Saviq | pmcgowan, confirmed, got an idea though | 16:18 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: track_index_lut.size(): 360 | 16:21 |
| tsdgeos | does this mean i have 360 songs in the playlist? | 16:21 |
| jhodapp | yes | 16:21 |
| tsdgeos | something is very wrong | 16:21 |
| tsdgeos | i have like 10 | 16:21 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, tell me how to reproduce and I can investigate | 16:21 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: function playSource(newSource, newPlaylist) { in https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity8/audioCardSupport/+merge/271605 | 16:22 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, what's that? | 16:22 |
| tsdgeos | basically stop audio, unset playlist, clear playlist, addtracks, set index, start playing | 16:22 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: code? | 16:22 |
| tsdgeos | D: | 16:22 |
| tsdgeos | i don't understand the question | 16:22 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, I was just wondering why you listed code | 16:23 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: ah i thought you meant what the code was doing instead of how to reproduce with clicks :) | 16:24 |
| Saviq | pmcgowan, ok, idea wrong, will file bug / find where it broke | 16:24 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, no just the steps to reproduce from a user of silo 4 perspective | 16:24 |
| Saviq | ahayzen, thanks for the heads-up | 16:24 |
| ahayzen | Saviq, no problem | 16:24 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: just play from the tracks deparment | 16:26 |
| tsdgeos | first play goes to 10, second play is now 30 | 16:26 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, ok my guess is that clear() is not working in your case | 16:26 |
| abeato | jhodapp, that's what I've seen too | 16:26 |
| Saviq | pmcgowan, ahayzen actually, there's a bug for it already bug #1510571 | 16:27 |
| ubot5 | bug 1510571 in QtMir "[Phone] Kinetic scrolling is broken on the spread" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1510571 | 16:27 |
| tsdgeos | abeato: jhodapp: there's also a weird behaviour in that if i play from playlist and then play from source that is ignored and the old song is played | 16:27 |
| ahayzen | Saviq, ah cool, it just happens in more places that just the spread it seems :-) | 16:27 |
| Saviq | ahayzen, can you comment on the bug please where else you see it? | 16:27 |
| ahayzen | Saviq, will do :-) | 16:28 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, what do you mean play from source? | 16:28 |
| Saviq | might help us pinpoint the issue | 16:28 |
| tsdgeos | abeato: jhodapp: in terms of how to reproduce from the ui is "go to tracks, play song 1, now go to preview of song 2 (by clicking on it not on the play icon), play from there, first song plays instead of second (and the url shows as the second one playing)" | 16:28 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: i mean audio.source = url; | 16:28 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, oh interesting, that is a bug...you can get around that for now by always using the playlist even if there's only one track in it | 16:29 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, would you mind filing a bug for that along with how to reproduce? | 16:30 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, file it against the media-hub source package | 16:30 |
| tsdgeos | ok, doing | 16:30 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, thanks | 16:32 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: abeato: pstolowski: since we can't reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1496736 anymore want me to close it? | 16:33 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1496736 in Canonical System Image "currentSource of Playlist gets set to empty" [High,In progress] | 16:33 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, sure | 16:33 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: and i guess open another one for the delay that happens when trying to play? | 16:33 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, yes please | 16:34 |
| pstolowski | tsdgeos, jhodapp okay as long as we have a new one for ui responsiveness | 16:34 |
| faenil | Saviq: I have to implement a behaviour which is only applied when a mouse is attached (independent of window mode)...is there any way to get that info at the moment? if not, is it coming anytime soon? | 16:34 |
| faenil | (this is related to scrollbars, fwiw) | 16:35 |
| Saviq | faenil, depends, is presence alone enough, or hover required | 16:35 |
| Saviq | ? | 16:35 |
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| faenil | Saviq: both, but I'm looking for presence | 16:36 |
| jhodapp | pstolowski, yeah tsdgeos is adding one | 16:36 |
| faenil | as in, the main flag that makes the switch is the presence of a mouse | 16:36 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, pstolowski so abeato can't reproduce the freeze in music-app or the scope | 16:36 |
| jhodapp | when the freeze happens for you, is the entire system unresponsive as in even the dash isn't responding? | 16:37 |
| Saviq | faenil, what's supposed to happen depending on that main flag? | 16:37 |
| greyback_ | faenil: there are plans for mir to export that info, but for now, the qinputinfo plugin might be what you need | 16:37 |
| faenil | Saviq: at the moment scrollbars become non-overlay when a mouse is connected | 16:38 |
| tsdgeos | jhodapp: abeato: yes you can't scroll the dash | 16:38 |
| faenil | s/at the moment/in the future | 16:38 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, yeah there's some weird dbus interaction going on then | 16:38 |
| Saviq | faenil, so stuff changes visually just because you connect a mouse | 16:39 |
| Saviq | ? | 16:39 |
| faenil | Saviq: yes | 16:39 |
| faenil | Saviq: it's nothing final, but there will be something that depends on whether a mouse is connected, most likely | 16:39 |
| faenil | or so it seems | 16:39 |
| Saviq | faenil, just a note that we should avoid that if possible, but scrollbars might just make sense for that | 16:39 |
| faenil | Saviq: sure, we should avoid... | 16:40 |
| Saviq | faenil, we have a copy of a "inputinfo" module from future Qt that mzanetti maintains for us in unity8 | 16:40 |
| Saviq | not sure if it'd work for apps, though (confinement) | 16:41 |
| faenil | greyback_: sorry, just read your msg | 16:41 |
| mzanetti | Saviq, we should make it work for apps... | 16:41 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, not directly IMO | 16:41 |
| faenil | :/ | 16:41 |
| faenil | are we becoming paranoid about everything now? :) | 16:41 |
| mzanetti | Saviq, either by replacing the backend to read info from mir or something... | 16:41 |
| mzanetti | but the api should be available to apps | 16:42 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, I mean that there needs to be a central place where we apply quirks | 16:42 |
| tsdgeos | abeato: jhodapp: pstolowski: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1511029 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/media-hub/+bug/1511034 | 16:42 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1511029 in media-hub (Ubuntu) "Audio gets confused when playing from source after playing from playlist" [Undecided,New] | 16:42 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1511034 in media-hub (Ubuntu) "Big UI freeze when playing from the dash" [Undecided,New] | 16:42 |
| mzanetti | Saviq, yes, custom backend is probably the answer | 16:42 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, right, I'm just saying it's not necessary for every app to enumerate the input devices | 16:42 |
| abeato | tsdgeos, that's great, thanks | 16:42 |
| jhodapp | thanks tsdgeos | 16:42 |
| Saviq | mzanetti, totally +1 that the API should be available | 16:42 |
| Saviq | faenil, so yeah, you could try to borrow the inputinfo module from us, not sure if it'll Just Workâ„¢, though | 16:43 |
| Saviq | faenil, and it's not about being paranoid, but do you want a malicious app to change your input configuration? ;) | 16:44 |
| tsdgeos | abeato: jhodapp: the first one may also be because we calling addTrack instead of addTracks | 16:45 |
| tsdgeos | i'll investigate that tomorrow | 16:45 |
| tsdgeos | and comment on the bug | 16:45 |
| faenil | Saviq: not change, but read the state.. | 16:45 |
| jhodapp | tsdgeos, I don't think it's causing that first issue, but I'd still recommend changing to use addTracks([]) instead | 16:45 |
| Saviq | faenil, well, that's the problem, the low level APIs are not as fine grained | 16:46 |
| Saviq | faenil, so we need something in between | 16:46 |
| drwd | Hello everybody, I have a question. ok | 17:25 |
| drwd | I want to know if I will be allowed to watch netflix on ubuntu phone | 17:25 |
| mcphail | drwd: Ubuntu will allow you, but netflix won't | 17:26 |
| * ogra_ doesnt deny | 17:26 | |
| ogra_ | so go ahead if you can convince netflix | 17:26 |
| ogra_ | :) | 17:26 |
| jibel | drwd, you'd need a client that supports netflix and only chrome does on ubuntu afaik | 17:26 |
| drwd | Please tell me a tip to bypass it | 17:26 |
| mcphail | drwd: you can't. Not on the phone, I'm afraid | 17:27 |
| lotuspsychje | my scopes get freezed in the middle of 2 scopes after sliding a few on BQ 4.5 anyone seen that before? | 17:27 |
| lotuspsychje | left bar can still be moved, but i can only reboot phone to get things working again | 17:28 |
| jibel | drwd, https://help.netflix.com/en/node/23742 | 17:28 |
| drwd | I can watch it on android ok, listen. Ubuntu is better, you are all have a tip to bypass it. I talk about trick netflix requirement, agent for browser | 17:29 |
| dobey | lotuspsychje: hi | 17:29 |
| lotuspsychje | hey dobey | 17:29 |
| lotuspsychje | dobey: just wanted to tell you my above issue | 17:30 |
| dobey | drwd: build a version of the proprietary google chrome for the phone, and then you'd be able to watch it in that. | 17:30 |
| dobey | lotuspsychje: no idea. sounds like a bug in unity8 perhaps. you should report it | 17:31 |
| lotuspsychje | ok | 17:31 |
| drwd | Can I build Chrome on ubuntu phone? | 17:33 |
| mcphail | drwd: no | 17:33 |
| mcphail | drwd: there is no way to watch netflix on the Ubuntu phone just now | 17:33 |
| drwd | How can I watch it then? | 17:34 |
| mcphail | drwd: on something else | 17:34 |
| jibel | drwd, it is not a question of trick it is a question of DRM and the extensions are only available on the proprietary chrome | 17:34 |
| drwd | You mean the ubuntu is limited ? | 17:35 |
| dobey | drwd: no, netflix is | 17:36 |
| ogra_ | netflix applies copy protection that only chrome can play back | 17:36 |
| ogra_ | so without the closed source plugin from chrome there is no way to play their videos | 17:36 |
| dobey | hmm | 17:37 |
| ogra_ | hacking the user agent will get you access to the page ... but videos will only show a black screen when playing | 17:38 |
| drwd | Bug? | 17:38 |
| ogra_ | ? | 17:39 |
| mcphail | drwd: yes - file it wth netflix | 17:39 |
| drwd | Black screen a bug? | 17:39 |
| dobey | there is no google chrome for armhf | 17:39 |
| ogra_ | drwd, no, it is what netflix set | 17:39 |
| dobey | no it's not a bug | 17:39 |
| ogra_ | sets | 17:39 |
| jibel | drwd, or ask google to port chrome to the Ubuntu phone ;) | 17:39 |
| dobey | it is because netflix do not support browsers other than google chrome | 17:39 |
| ogra_ | drwd, netflix does not allow other browsers to play back their videos ... not a bug | 17:40 |
| jibel | well, it supports IE and Safari | 17:40 |
| dobey | not chromium, but the official proprietary google chrome browser | 17:40 |
| jibel | but not on Ubuntu | 17:40 |
| ogra_ | indeed | 17:40 |
| drwd | Come on guys, we have the power... we need a hero. | 17:41 |
| dobey | no, we don't have the power | 17:41 |
| dobey | google's attornies haven't given it to us | 17:41 |
| ogra_ | drwd, cracking netflix' copy protection you mean ? | 17:41 |
| ogra_ | good luck with that | 17:41 |
| jibel | drwd, be the hero then | 17:41 |
| mcphail | drwd: you have the power to not give netflix your subscription fees, with an explanation why you are leaving | 17:41 |
| drwd | I have the premium account, so I need to play | 17:41 |
| dobey | drwd: then complain to netflix that they don't support ubuntu phone | 17:42 |
| dobey | maybe you can convince them to write an app for ubuntu phone | 17:42 |
| ogra_ | or to provide a simple decryption plugin | 17:42 |
| dobey | lol "simple" | 17:42 |
| ogra_ | (which someone else could use in his app) | 17:42 |
| drwd | I am only a man ( sexy man) I cant change the world. | 17:42 |
| ogra_ | dobey, i dont mind writing an app with a black box where i pipe the stream in :) | 17:43 |
| drwd | Netflix work on android and xbox ( apps) | 17:43 |
| dobey | ogra_: we already have an app. all that's required is google building official chrome for armhf; then it's a rather trivial thing to do with a webapp and a little magic install | 17:43 |
| jibel | you can always record the shows from your tv with the camera of the phone and then play it back later :P | 17:44 |
| dobey | drwd: netflix provide the apps for those yes | 17:44 |
| ogra_ | dobey, true | 17:44 |
| dobey | drwd: so go complain to netflix | 17:44 |
| dobey | does netflix work on a chromebook? | 17:44 |
| drwd | I guess | 17:44 |
| ogra_ | you can also just use free streaming portals ... and watch 10 year old movies instead :) | 17:44 |
| ogra_ | dobey, it uses the closed chrome ... | 17:45 |
| dobey | or movies that will come out in 10 days | 17:45 |
| dobey | depending on where you get the movies | 17:45 |
| ogra_ | (chromebook) | 17:45 |
| drwd | Ok tell me to do, slap google face or slap netflix face | 17:45 |
| * mcphail thought the DRM plugin came from Adobe, rather than Google | 17:45 | |
| dobey | drwd: both | 17:45 |
| dobey | mcphail: no, it's all from google | 17:46 |
| drwd | Slap | 17:46 |
| mcphail | dobey: are Adobe going to make the plugin for Firefox? I'm sure they were involved somewhere in all of this mess | 17:46 |
| dobey | mcphail: it's not using flash for netflix i don't think. but the flash in chrome is licensed to google from adobe, so google builds it | 17:46 |
| dobey | mcphail: no, it's not flash | 17:46 |
| dobey | mcphail: it's html5 video with the enhanced media extensions stuff for the drm | 17:47 |
| mcphail | dobey: no - I know it isn;t flash. I mean the HTML5 DRM plugin | 17:47 |
| drwd | They spy my ass, they spy my device, but they dont allow me to watch movies smh | 17:47 |
| mcphail | dobey: found it - https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2015/05/12/update-on-digital-rights-management-and-firefox/ | 17:48 |
| drwd | Firefox is not allowed too | 17:49 |
| dobey | mcphail: don't know what that has to do with google chrome. | 17:50 |
| * mcphail sighs | 17:50 | |
| dobey | and i certainly can't watch DRMed video in firefox | 17:50 |
| ogra_ | because you never tried :P | 17:50 |
| drwd | I hear the netflix have had an api but it was removed... | 17:51 |
| dobey | ogra_: i tried again just now | 17:51 |
| ogra_ | ah | 17:51 |
| dobey | i don't get any pop-up to install anything. youtube just gives me "An error occurred" for a purchased video | 17:51 |
| mcphail | I don't think the CDM made it into Linux builds, and think Netflix don't accept it anyway | 17:51 |
| ogra_ | well, they could just provide a binary blob ... like spotify does | 17:52 |
| drwd | Meanwhile we need a dual option to do things, for example an android system like gingerbread ( 500 mb or less ) | 17:52 |
| dobey | i don't have netflix, so meh. but it would be nice to get all of youtube in firefox | 17:52 |
| lotuspsychje | dobey: something like this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1511063 | 17:52 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1511063 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Scopes freeze after few times slide on Bq 4.5" [Undecided,New] | 17:52 |
| dobey | lotuspsychje: sure | 17:52 |
| lotuspsychje | dobey: tnx | 17:53 |
| dobey | drwd: good luck with that | 17:53 |
| drwd | Can I report like bug it ? dual boot option | 17:53 |
| dobey | it's not a bug | 17:54 |
| drwd | It is a tool | 17:54 |
| dobey | ubuntu phone is not going to include android as a dual boot solution | 17:54 |
| dobey | if you want dual boot, use multirom in android | 17:54 |
| drwd | No ty | 17:55 |
| drwd | I want ubuntu like main system | 17:55 |
| drwd | We have space enough to do the dual boot, u are all know it. | 17:56 |
| mcphail | drwd: I look forward to trying it when you implement it :) | 17:57 |
| drwd | Froyo or gingerbread.. space enough | 17:57 |
| dobey | the solution for dual boot is multirom. if you want to run android apps within ubuntu, that is a separate thing, and isn't going to happen natively. you're welcome to try building a package with an android VM that runs android apps within itself, though | 17:57 |
| dobey | why would you even want to run such an old android that isn't even supported by google any longer? | 17:58 |
| drwd | Fuck google, I want to watch netflix and I will solve the issue. | 17:59 |
| mcphail | drwd: please moderate your language | 17:59 |
| drwd | Excuse me | 17:59 |
| dobey | well, good luck | 18:00 |
| drwd | I said gingerbread because the jelly bean has big size | 18:00 |
| ogra_ | blog about it when you implemented it | 18:01 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 18:02 |
| ogra_ | surely an interesting read | 18:02 |
| drwd | Smh | 18:02 |
| dobey | i can't remember what silly names google uses for what versions | 18:03 |
| dobey | or did they just skip k? | 18:03 |
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| ogra_ | dobey, you mean if they skipped kitkat ? | 18:04 |
| dobey | oh, right, i forgot about kitkat | 18:04 |
| ogra_ | :) | 18:04 |
| dobey | so which one is 4.4.4? | 18:04 |
| ogra_ | 4.x is kitkat | 18:05 |
| dobey | 445M Sep 16 2014 occam-ktu84p-factory-b6ac3ad6.tgz | 18:05 |
| ogra_ | iirc | 18:05 |
| pmcgowan | good thing we dont use silly names | 18:05 |
| drwd | Kit kat is big too and the hardware is not able to support kitkat and ubuntu | 18:05 |
| ogra_ | pmcgowan, beyond that guy that like to give things animal names you mean ? | 18:05 |
| dobey | 445M is too big? | 18:06 |
| dobey | lol | 18:06 |
| ogra_ | *likes | 18:06 |
| drwd | I will buy a new device if someone says ubuntu will have dual boot. | 18:06 |
| dobey | dual boot already exists | 18:06 |
| dobey | it's called multirom | 18:06 |
| drwd | I mean dual boot for ubuntu | 18:07 |
| lotuspsychje | why watch netflix on such small phone screen | 18:07 |
| drwd | Dude lol, I cant watch it | 18:07 |
| ogra_ | lotuspsychje, better a small screen than no screen ;) | 18:07 |
| * mcphail likes watching films on a phone | 18:07 | |
| ogra_ | at least when watching a movie a small screen is more worth than none :) | 18:07 |
| lotuspsychje | i like n7 just for movies and i find it small lol | 18:08 |
| ogra_ | you dont fly much :) | 18:08 |
| lotuspsychje | ok ok i rest my case :p | 18:08 |
| mcphail | lotuspsychje: if you are as myopic as me, a phone screen is the perfect size to watch without your glasses on a lazy Sunday morning | 18:08 |
| drwd | Dude the phone is better when u are traveling. U cant take the tv | 18:08 |
| ogra_ | in-flight systems usually have a "big" 7" screen ... | 18:08 |
| ogra_ | with a 640x480 resolution :) | 18:09 |
| lotuspsychje | you guys also tap screen every few minutes to get brightness back | 18:09 |
| ogra_ | so there your n7 would easily smart out the picture quality | 18:09 |
| * ogra_ doesnt tap the screen when playing back a movie, no | 18:09 | |
| dobey | an official ubuntu phone that dual boots android would be pointless | 18:09 |
| ogra_ | i just write my apps in a way they properly keep the screen on ;) | 18:10 |
| dobey | nobody would use ubuntu, because they'd have all their apps in android | 18:10 |
| lotuspsychje | ogra_: aha | 18:10 |
| ogra_ | try the clipfish app ... | 18:10 |
| drwd | Canonical will have more clients or customizers | 18:10 |
| ogra_ | (though only german movies there ... with ads) | 18:10 |
| lotuspsychje | ogra_: is there a youtube apps that doesnt get dark | 18:10 |
| ogra_ | i think the last one should play fine | 18:10 |
| ogra_ | there was an update the last days | 18:11 |
| lotuspsychje | ok ill try it | 18:11 |
| ogra_ | also the browser should havee that fix too | 18:11 |
| pmcgowan | yes | 18:11 |
| lotuspsychje | ah i didnt test that1 tnx! | 18:11 |
| dobey | watching movies on my phone is a great way to have a barbecue | 18:12 |
| drwd | I hope the OTA 8 allow us to download any file, I cant download any movie .... | 18:12 |
| lotuspsychje | there was popcorn time for ubuntu right, but got reported? | 18:12 |
| ogra_ | dobey, nah,, you need two phones to properly distribute the heat | 18:13 |
| dobey | ogra_: not with a nexus 5 :) | 18:13 |
| ogra_ | one top, one bottom | 18:13 |
| mcphail | ogra_: one for the vegetarians? | 18:13 |
| pmcgowan | drwd, that got pushed to ota9 sadly | 18:13 |
| dobey | you just turn the sausage | 18:13 |
| ogra_ | pfft | 18:14 |
| drwd | Oh man, are u kidding me? the time is short... | 18:14 |
| ogra_ | lol | 18:14 |
| dobey | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heiyM61dfio | 18:15 |
| drwd | Guys I have a question, I blocks google ads ok, for example 127.0.0.1 google.ads.doubleclickt.net, but google will show me ada again.. | 18:18 |
| drwd | *ads again | 18:19 |
| dobey | yeah, google are smart enough to not serve ads from a single domain | 18:19 |
| drwd | I am using the dns 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4 | 18:19 |
| dobey | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwrxKtciZhQ | 18:20 |
| drwd | I have a lot of links blocked right in /etc/hosts | 18:21 |
| drwd | But each day I see a new ads, wtf? | 18:22 |
| dobey | you haven't blocked all of them | 18:23 |
| drwd | I do the temporaly mount, sudo mount /dev/loop0 / -o remount,rw | 18:23 |
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| dobey | the only way to guarantee you don't see ads on web sites, is to not look at web sites | 18:23 |
| ogra_ | or use intelligent duct tape (the one that moves in place of the ads on a page) | 18:24 |
| drwd | I block the link right for example play.google.com, but if I do ping google.play.com I will see google.l.play.com wtf? | 18:25 |
| ogra_ | can you please tame your language ... | 18:25 |
| dobey | or get some joo janta 200 super-chromatic peril sensitive sunglasses | 18:25 |
| ogra_ | dobey, +1 | 18:25 |
| ogra_ | :) | 18:25 |
| drwd | What does is tame dude im a bit lost | 18:25 |
| ogra_ | drwd, please stop the cursing | 18:26 |
| ogra_ | it isnt appropriate for ubuntu channels | 18:26 |
| drwd | Ok I got u, Im gentleman believe me. | 18:26 |
| ogra_ | (this is what "tame your language2 means) | 18:26 |
| dobey | while you're making a netflix app, go ahead and make one for amazon videos, and another for amazon music, too | 18:33 |
| drwd | Dude I will make with ads lol | 18:34 |
| ogra_ | go ahead :) | 18:35 |
| * ogra_ doesnt mind ads ... someone has to pay for it after all | 18:35 | |
| ogra_ | thanks to ads it isnt me | 18:35 |
| dobey | ads are the debil | 18:36 |
| ogra_ | heh | 18:36 |
| drwd | Daddy needs money $$$$ | 18:36 |
| dobey | feel free to apply at amazon or netflix. both are pretty much always hiring people | 18:38 |
| drwd | I will talk with netflix smh | 18:40 |
| lotuspsychje | teamviewer to your desktop playing netflix :p | 18:41 |
| drwd | Teamviewer does not work on ubuntu phone | 18:42 |
| ogra_ | real hardcore people run IE in an i386 chroot under wine :P | 18:42 |
| drwd | I think I will watch netflix if canonical fix the desktop version on phone. | 18:43 |
| ogra_ | "fix the desktop version on phone" ? | 18:43 |
| ogra_ | what does that mean | 18:43 |
| drwd | Yep | 18:43 |
| dobey | go buy an x86 phone and you can watch it no problem | 18:43 |
| drwd | It is not complete | 18:43 |
| ogra_ | what makes you think you could then watch netflix ? | 18:44 |
| dobey | what is not complete? | 18:44 |
| lotuspsychje | http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/Netflix-Working-on-Ubuntu-Touch-Native-App-460846.shtml | 18:44 |
| drwd | For example the mir? | 18:44 |
| tathhu | Browser needs more DRM :P | 18:44 |
| ogra_ | google doesnt offer chrome for armhf ... as long as they dont do that there wont be a browser to watch netflix | 18:44 |
| dobey | what does mir have to do with completeness? | 18:44 |
| ogra_ | no matter in what state the desktop is in | 18:45 |
| ogra_ | if google doesnt give you the browser you cant use it | 18:45 |
| ogra_ | as dobey said, get an x86 phone and you can even make it work today (with some hackery) | 18:45 |
| dobey | get an x86 phone and you can even play steam on it :) | 18:46 |
| ogra_ | on an arm phone it wont work | 18:46 |
| ogra_ | yeah ! | 18:46 |
| dobey | or buy me an arm chromebook | 18:46 |
| dobey | or tell me where to pull the chrome bits off the web for it | 18:47 |
| drwd | Yes very nice but wait a moment, oops, the battery will die more | 18:47 |
| dobey | lol. you want to watch netflix on a phone, and are worried about battery life? | 18:47 |
| drwd | I think we need the modular phone like google | 18:47 |
| lotuspsychje | every day magic happens for ubuntu touch | 18:48 |
| lotuspsychje | its just a metter of time | 18:48 |
| lotuspsychje | how you guys like my xenial dekstop: http://oi68.tinypic.com/sm4z0g.jpg | 18:56 |
| === Foxmaster is now known as zz_Foxmaster | ||
| popey | uuuugh | 18:59 |
| popey | soo many adverts | 18:59 |
| dobey | lotuspsychje: is that digital blasphemy? | 19:12 |
| lotuspsychje | dobey: not sure whom to punish :p | 19:13 |
| dobey | lotuspsychje: eh? i wasn't making a joke | 19:14 |
| lotuspsychje | dobey: explain what you mean then | 19:14 |
| OerHeks | is it a touchscreen ? | 19:15 |
| lotuspsychje | OerHeks: not its my xenial desktop | 19:15 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntu desktop | 19:15 |
| dobey | lotuspsychje: http://digitalblasphemy.com/seeall.shtml?y=2015&t=0&w=&h=&r=1&f=0 | 19:15 |
| dobey | (i didn't realize digital blasphemy was still around though) | 19:15 |
| mimecar | Good afternoon... | 19:16 |
| lotuspsychje | dobey: ah you mean that actual website? no its from deviantart | 19:16 |
| lotuspsychje | hey mimecar | 19:17 |
| dobey | the style of that wallpaper made me think of the db wallpapers | 19:17 |
| === mimecar is now known as mimecar-cena | ||
| === salem_ is now known as _salem | ||
| === zz_Foxmaster is now known as Foxmaster | ||
| === mimecar-cena is now known as mimecar | ||
| === Foxmaster is now known as zz_Foxmaster | ||
| === greyback__ is now known as greyback | ||
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