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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:37
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JamesTaitGood morning all; happy Wednesday, and happy International Animation Day! 😃10:04
knightwisemorning :)10:07
JamesTaitI miss davmor2's youtube links.10:10
JamesTaitWho said he could go on holiday?10:10
zmoylan-pihis boss?10:13
knightwise yo peeps , how are you doing ?10:27
JamesTait👋  knightwise10:28
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bigcalmGood morning peeps :)13:35
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diddledan_yawn14:25
AzelphurI'm after something kinda like githubs issue tracker, but just the issue tracker, so me and a few people can collaborate on things. Anyone have any ideas?15:02
diddledan_Azelphur: it might be way too featurefull but redmine is good15:06
diddledan_alternatively there's the age-old bugzilla (it needn't be bugs)15:07
diddledan_Azelphur: this might help choose one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_issue-tracking_systems15:10
awilkinsYou can turn off most of the features in Redmine and just leave the issue tracking15:18
awilkinsI am biased because I can spin instances of it up relatively quickly15:18
awilkinsAnd I like it better than single-task things like Bugzilla15:19
awilkinsI used to use Trac, that's pretty simple to use on Ubuntu as it has good packages15:19
diddledan_yeah I would recommend redmine15:19
awilkinsRedmine > Trac because Redmine supports multiple projects in a single instance15:19
awilkinsTrac needs an extra instance per project15:20
awilkinsRedmine + redmine_backlogs plugin is a nice, functional Agile / Scrum board type thing15:20
Azelphurwas after something that is hosted not be me15:22
Azelphurbecause I'm lazy :P15:22
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awilkinsAzelphur, https://www.digitalocean.com/features/one-click-apps/redmine/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=NB_SEM&utm_campaign=Alpha_Features_UK&utm_content=v2_NP_hp&utm_term=redmine%20hosting&adgroup=24105426445&matchtype=e&network=g&device=c&position=1t116:07
Azelphurfun :)16:07
awilkinsThe $5 a month option is more than adequate for a small team16:08
awilkinsMine is running on a Raspberry Pi 2 behind my TV, and the DB is on my NAS box.16:08
awilkinsBut it worked fine with a sqlite3 db on the Pi16:09
awilkins(jus tnot so good for multiple concurrent users with sqlite3)16:09
AzelphurI think we're going to go with GitLab16:09
awilkinsNot played wiht it16:10
bigcalmGitlab FTW16:10
diddledan_gitlab is awesome!16:17
diddledan_I've just replaced my github subscription and private repos with a gitlab instance16:17
Azelphurnice16:18
bashrcI havn't replaced github, and still use it primarily for the eyeballs, but I also mirror everything to my own gogs instance16:27
bashrcthat way if github is down, or turns evil, it's no biggy16:27
diddledan_yeah my public stuff is still on github, only my private stuff has moved :-)16:27
diddledan_bashrc: is that an automated mirroring or via an extra manual push?16:30
diddledan_gogs looks very github cloney :-p16:33
bashrcit is a github clone16:40
bashrcif you can use github you can use gogs16:41
bashrcyes, it's automated mirroring16:41
bigcalmLooking to move my VPS. Digital Ocean or Linode?16:42
diddledan_DO seems to be the one that has the most mindshare these days16:43
daftykinsdigitalocean are nice16:51
daftykinsat least in the couple of months i've been running my first long-term one :>16:52
arsenipi like my soyoustart dedi :o16:53
arsenipused to use linode pretty heavily, they were nice.16:54
daftykinscan't argue with the lowest end digitalocean VPSs for $5/mo - i cancelled my bigv.io one from bytemark and moved things over :D16:55
arseniphat is cheap - daftykins, where are they located?17:25
daftykinsyou can actually place your VPSs in most cities around the world now, they'd only just launched London back in the summer or so17:25
daftykinsi think they've got two spots in England now, couple of the Netherlands maybe...17:26
arsenipcool17:26
arsenipwhats the disk provided?17:26
daftykinsalthough now CISA got voted in in the US, perhaps we're not safe dealing with a company based out of the US ;)17:26
daftykinshttps://www.digitalocean.com/pricing/ have a gander17:26
arsenipprobs17:27
arseniptho i do work for one.17:27
daftykinsD:17:27
arsenipand im in the US17:27
arsenipso17:27
arsenipcant get much worse.17:27
daftykinsy...you are? :P17:28
arsenipim currently sat on times sq.17:28
daftykinsholiday?17:29
zmoylan-pihe's dressed as a superhero posing for pics for tourists :-)17:30
zmoylan-pii'm gonna say.... wonder woman.... :-P17:30
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daftykinszmoylan-pi: nailed it.18:15
arseniphah, work - daftykins. :)19:01
daftykins;)19:02
daftykinsseems odd for IT work to require travel! :>19:02
zmoylan-pii saw someone once spend 30 minutes trying to get a person to type 2 lines into a computer (pre remote control software) before giving up and driving there and doing it...19:03
zmoylan-pii had warned him that expecting people to be able to type 'cd \video' press return and then 'video' followed by return was too much for some19:04
popeyheh19:05
zmoylan-piand when we got remote control software (pcanywhere) it didn't fix everything as they usually only had 1 line and were then expected NOT to answer the phone as the computer was going to do it19:06
zmoylan-piin one case after about an hour of trying to get the computer to answer the call and the manager picking up and answering the phone he heard a bucket in the back ground and found out the cleaner was on site so he spoke to the cleaner to stop the manager answering the phone19:07
daftykins:D19:08
daftykinsi had one that couldn't take a 10 digit number for love nor money once19:08
daftykinsverbally on the phone, again19:08
zmoylan-piplus of course the usual i didn't type in your password as i don't like it calls19:08
p42phoneI've got people to remotely drive vi over the phone; now type exactly what I say.....19:13
daftykinsi'd tell you where to go and pick a sane editor19:14
daftykins;)19:14
popeyAhhh PCAnywhere19:21
p42phoneWell it does depend why their system was broken enough to have me on the phone, but sometimes guiding people through a GUI can be hard19:21
popeyhappy memories of 199019:21
popeyFloppy only desktops booting dos & PCA off a diskette. Connected to LAN and multiplexor out to remote locations. people dialled in via PCA to the desktop to access LAN applications.19:22
daftykinsi more meant a choice of something like nano over vi ;)19:22
popeyWas fun turning on all the screens and watching everyone working19:22
* p42phone throws a sun 3/50 at popey19:22
zmoylan-pimy favourite all time call though was to set up pcanywhere over the phone.  asked to do it as by guy in accountancy department downstairs. i get a number and a name, that's it. so i ring19:25
zmoylan-piand he answers and is ready and has all the bits in front of him (very rare occurence) and we install the hardware, then the software and as he uses the pc i hear an electronic voice as he types the commands in dos19:26
zmoylan-piit was early days of sound cards so i thought it was some silly software installed and asked about it.19:27
zmoylan-piturns out he was blind and it was screen reading software.  made it one of the easiest installs ever once i could hear what was happening on screen19:27
daftykins:)19:28
daftykinshad a blind person coming in #kodi quite a lot of late trying to set it up with TV, film and stuff19:28
zmoylan-pigot it running in about 5 minutes, tested and went on to next job when guy from downstairs runs in and announces 'oh i forgot to tell you, he's blind!!'19:28
daftykinsseemed a very odd desire to me :P19:28
daftykinsso are we talking windows 9x era with a command prompt window being read?19:29
zmoylan-pithis was pre win9x.  win3.1 or win3.1 wfwg if you were lucky19:30
daftykinsah ok19:30
zmoylan-pibut he was using all dos apps as the screen reader worked best on them.  the blind aren't mad on guis19:30
daftykinsmmm19:31
popeyNice19:31
zmoylan-piwhat it did was really simple it read out the line that the cursor was on.19:31
zmoylan-pimove the cursor up and down and it read the whole line, move if left right and it said letter/number19:32
zmoylan-piuh oh, the balloon may have gone up... :-) http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-3466065919:34
foobarrygot a kindle fire 5th gen today for mrs19:47
foobarrynot my ideal choice, but she said the amazon lockin wouldn't bother her19:47
daftykinsi have that one here, a kids edition for a client19:47
foobarryis this 1 mobile market alternative safe?19:50
foobarryi gotta get youtube and couple of others on here19:51
foobarrymaybe i'll just sideload them individually19:51
daftykinsyeah easy enough19:52
foobarryexcept login services need adding for full experience19:58
daftykinssmells a lot like buying the wrong device for the job, that ;)20:06
foobarryyeah20:13
foobarryi thought it was competing services they didn't include20:14
foobarryyoutube aint amazon video20:14
foobarryamazon can't pretend to provide similar apps and services as the good20:15
foobarrygoog20:15
p42phoneTip: don't land at Manchester and expect to get a taxi when there is football on21:53
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