[00:06] <Unit193> micahg: Can we get you to introduce xfdashboard to Ubuntu?
[00:06] <Unit193> bluesabre: Anything else
[00:06] <Unit193> ?
[00:14] <Unit193> bluesabre: Oh, and Debian added support for lightdm in xscreensaver.
[00:15] <Unit193> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/xscreensaver.git/commit/?id=79dff7655455327ee5b7376149fa2975fea3e0b9
[00:16] <bluesabre> neat
[00:28] <Unit193> Crap, now I need a MOTU.
[03:41] <micahg> Unit193: is that not in Debian?
[03:43] <micahg> it appears not, is there any reason we can't upload to Debian?
[03:44] <micahg> debian 788332
[03:44] <micahg> if we get it in Debian, autosync takes care of that :)
[05:17] <Unit193> micahg: I know, but it is still not uploaded and been sitting there as an ITP/in pkg-xfce for a bit now.
[05:17] <Unit193> micahg: Also, see -motu?
[06:23] <pleia2> knome: woo, we can start our press page for 15.10 http://news.softpedia.com/news/xubuntu-15-10-officially-announced-uses-libreoffice-writer-and-calc-xfce-4-12-495122.shtml
[07:36] <flocculant> Unit193: installed xfce4-pulse 
[07:38] <Unit193> Sounds fun?
[07:41] <flocculant> well you've not got an immediate Unit193 my world imploded :D
[07:41] <flocculant> knome: published now
[07:41] <Unit193> So...Not fun. ;)
[07:42] <flocculant> :)
[07:43] <flocculant> Unit193: well - volume changes with mousewheel, mute works and mixer starts pavucontrol 
[07:44] <Unit193> Feature of this release is if pa is killed and respawns, it'll re-attach to pa.
[07:44] <flocculant> yep - read that
[08:03] <Unit193> bluesabre: https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings_1.2.0-1.html
[09:58] <bluesabre> Unit193: oh goodie
[11:27] <knome> pleia2, :D
[15:54] <Unit193> bluesabre: Want me to keep xfce-4.12 up for wily?
[16:40] <dkessel> flocculant: i want to report an ISO test for xenial here, but there are no tests yet :p heelp :) http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/351/builds/105523/testcases
[16:43] <dkessel> i386 is there...
[16:45] <slickymasterWork> lol dkessel, only us, the i386 underdogs, matter :P
[16:47] <dkessel> you oldschoolers
[16:47] <akxwi_dave> :-)
[17:02] <dkessel> is there a tag for usability tags already?
[17:02] <dkessel> usability bugs i mean
[17:11] <slickymasterWork> I think not dkessel 
[17:11] <dkessel> fyi:bug 1511053
[17:15] <dkessel> i propose the tag xubuntu-x-usability, as used in this bug :)
[17:15] <dkessel> cya later
[17:36] <flocculant> dkessel: just add usability as a tag - please don't start creating ones :)
[17:36] <flocculant> idea is that we have 3 or 4 tags we can search with 
[17:37] <flocculant> dkessel: testcases will turn up - ubuntu has none at all atm :)
[18:00] <flocculant> dkessel: thanks - saw the tag change :)
[18:00] <dkessel> np :) i just thought a tag only used by us would be easier. but i guess we can filter on other criteria, too.
[18:01] <flocculant> dkessel: it's not that so much - I just don't want a long list of tags :)
[18:01] <flocculant> so xubuntu-exp wily xenial ppa usability 
[18:02] <dkessel> oh i wanted to ask about that... "exp" is for "exploratory"?
[18:02] <flocculant> yea
[18:02] <flocculant> so mostly me for 3 months :D
[18:07] <flocculant> hi slickymaster 
[18:07] <flocculant> work
[18:07] <flocculant> :D
[18:07] <slickymasterWork> lol
[18:07] <slickymasterWork> I saw you changed the package from ubiquity to casper flocculant 
[18:08] <flocculant> yep - only because other's were the same 
[18:08] <slickymasterWork> oki doke
[18:08] <flocculant> some discussion in -quality with cypermox about that problem
[18:09] <slickymasterWork> aren't you going to add yourself to it?
[18:09] <flocculant> luckily it's general and not just us 
[18:09] <flocculant> I will 
[18:09] <flocculant> I'll also be mailing our testers so they use the same bug 
[18:11] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/10/28/%23ubuntu-quality.html#t17:50
[18:11]  * slickymasterWork reads
[18:13] <slickymasterWork> so, basically they run out of ideas to fix that
[18:13] <slickymasterWork> :P
[18:13] <flocculant> well I think that it keeps changing 
[18:13] <flocculant> so they fixed something - then vb does something - broken again
[18:14] <flocculant> because it was at least letting you Enter and it would restart once 
[18:15] <slickymasterWork> let us see how the all thing evolves, on their end
[18:34] <dkessel> the xubuntu-staging is not set up for xenial yet, could you fix that too, bluesabre?
[18:35] <dkessel> the PPA i mean
[18:35] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: so what's the next stage in docs.xubuntu.org/developers thingy 
[18:37] <slickymasterWork> currently I'm reviewing your MP and writing the -docs build tutorial flocculant 
[18:38] <slickymasterWork> then I'll start with that
[18:38]  * dkessel tries to be super annoying today
[18:38] <dkessel> docs.xubuntu.org doesn't have the wily docs :p
[18:38] <slickymasterWork> knome or pleia2 ^^^
[18:39] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: ok - well I will just make some start on what I want locally then :)
[18:40] <slickymasterWork> speaking about it flocculant, and not trying in any way to question a native speaker, but "The position of the panel, the items it contains are configurable and the Menu are all customizable. See "settings-preferences" for more information on those topics.
[18:40] <slickymasterWork> doesn't sound right in my head
[18:41] <flocculant> nothing is going to sound right in mine today 
[18:42] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: what is that actually in? 
[18:42] <slickymasterWork> lol, still the headache?
[18:42] <flocculant> because that sounds like the original not my change ... 
[18:42] <flocculant> yea
[18:42] <slickymasterWork> it's in the desktop-guide/C/guide-desktop.xml of your MP
[18:43] <flocculant> oh meh
[18:44] <flocculant> did that all wrong when I did it the second time
[18:44] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: can you just inline comment in the MP :)
[18:44] <slickymasterWork> will do
[18:45] <flocculant> you wait till you get to offline ... you'll not be wanting to do that 1 by 1 in here ... 
[18:45] <flocculant> you'll be 0_0 
[18:45] <slickymasterWork> hahah
[18:46] <flocculant> basically I replaced repetition upon repetition with 3 warns or notes at the beginning 
[18:46] <flocculant> and then did some more :p
[18:46] <slickymasterWork> well, you sure kept yourself busy 
[18:47] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: also I obviously didn't expect to not have to re-look at things 
[18:47] <flocculant> slickymasterWork: yes - I won't promise that sort of thing ever again :p
[18:47] <slickymasterWork> lol
[18:47] <drc> flocculant: quick question on the dev ppa's...it's ok to run the staging <and> the daily ppas?  They wont interfere with each other?
[18:49] <flocculant> shouldn't do :)
[18:49] <flocculant> I have them all here
[18:53] <drc> So the " 'useful' second place" option is: 1) install wily, 2) update, 3) add the 3 ppas, 4) update, 5) run as normal until something breaks?
[19:20] <flocculant> drc: yea - that's pretty much what devs are doing afaik
[19:20] <flocculant> drc: unless you've no problem with breaking and reinstalling - in which case xenial + ppa's :)
[19:21] <flocculant> mostly it's about getting as many different people to report things - so if people can use wily they might feel a bit safer
[19:24] <drc> So, just substitute "install today's daily"  for "wily"
[19:29] <flocculant> more or less :)
[19:51] <knome> slickymaster, pleia2 is the only one who can update that
[19:56] <flocculant> hi knome 
[19:57] <knome> hey fki
[19:57] <knome> aölskfjglaskfjg
[19:57] <knome> flocculant, 
[20:05] <flocculant> :)
[20:51] <akxwi-dave> well time for wife and wine have a good evening all
[22:07] <flocculant> bluesabre: mmm so getting parole crashing here 
[22:08] <flocculant> thought I'd best cheer you up ;)
[22:12] <flocculant> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12994203/
[22:12] <flocculant> have the apport file if needed
[22:15] <knome> hahah
[22:15] <flocculant> he's going to hate me by April ... 
[22:15] <flocculant> if not already :p
[22:16] <knome> i'm positive about the latter
[22:16] <knome> :P
[22:17] <flocculant> ha ha 
[22:20] <flocculant> oh silly me - not a ppa can just report it :D
[22:20] <knome> hahah
[22:22] <flocculant> bug 1511136
[22:28] <flocculant> guess I should do a clean xenial install to wipe the dirty slate clean asap 
[22:30] <knome> ;)
[22:31] <flocculant> qa skewing the burndown at the cycle start :p
[22:31] <knome> hmm
[22:31] <knome> that doesn't look healthy
[22:31] <knome> the lines, that is
[22:32] <flocculant> then it goes Inprogress till more or less the end of the cycle for qa
[22:32] <knome> hmm
[22:32] <knome> they are fine in ff
[22:32] <knome> not chrome
[22:32] <flocculant> oh yea - odd 
[22:34]  * knome attempts a quick fix
[22:44] <knome> should be fixed for chrome
[22:44] <knome> it isnt beautiful, but...
[22:47] <flocculant> looks better than it did :)
[22:47] <flocculant> almost logarithmic before 
[22:47] <knome> ;)
[22:48] <flocculant> good job it wasn't - not sure how we'd manage 1000 tasks in 6 months :D
[22:48] <knome> lol
[23:17] <Unit193> dkessel: Created it for you so it won't 404 anymore, just has -pa- and xfpm.