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kubuntuuseryou saved me00:00
kubuntuuseri only had to symlink the driver into the right directory00:00
kwaadpepperlol00:01
kwaadpeppernive00:01
kwaadpeppernice, also fglrx-installer is patched now Drybones00:01
kwaadpepperjust looking at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/wily-changes/2015-October/012298.html00:01
kwaadpepperkubuntuuser: so you can now boot properly ?00:02
kubuntuuserno, but at least i have a desktop :)00:03
kwaadpepperyay thats a start00:03
kubuntuuseronly as root00:04
kwaadpepperon rescue mode you could try to update fglrx-installer or reinstall00:05
kwaadpepperi also read the bug was afecting 4.2 kernel00:05
kwaadpepperworkaround was to use 4.100:05
kwaadpepperthat you could try00:05
kwaadpepperthanks to Drybones for the linl :p00:06
thenerdjoneswell when i tried to set it up the way i think it should be set up.... / on sda, device for grub boot loader on /dev/sda, it says it cant update grub...00:06
kwaadpepperthenerdjones: why not letting the default stuff and just give it a try ?00:08
thenerdjoneswell when i try with the default settings...Partition(s) 1, 2, 3, 5 on /dev/sdb have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use. As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use. You should reboot now before making further changes.00:09
thenerdjonesim going to reboot the computer back into live mode and try again, i think i have been playing with too many things00:10
thenerdjonesill brb00:10
drleviathanwhew!  I was considering trying to install kubunto on an intel+ATI video-chipsetted laptop... mostly because the Windows system can't even seem to use the ATI card00:11
drleviathanhowever now I see that it is a bad idea.00:11
SomeGuy2Thinkpad?00:12
drleviathanit occurs to me now... buying this Dell 7548 Inspiron with intel+ATI was a bad idea.00:12
SomeGuy2Windows actually seems to do a decent job automatically installing drivers for ATI cards, worked on my TP when I installed windows 8, and that card wasn't even supported by ATI00:13
kwaadpepperOptimus laptops are worse under linux00:14
kwaadpepperjust managed to use nvidia-prime and bumblebee together, but ati users are i think pretty ok on linux00:15
kwaadpepperThis is a just a release bug00:15
kwaadpepperit is corrected according  this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/149388800:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1493888 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu Wily) "FGLRX incompatible with gcc 5" [High,Fix committed]00:15
drleviathanDell happily informs me that the ATI driver is completely up to date.  However the ATI Catalyst application (or whatever) says it cannot access the ATI card.  Also, although I have manually specified certain applications to use the ATI card none of them successfully do, they all try to use the embedded intel chipset.00:16
SomeGuy2Can you switch them in the BIOS?00:16
drleviathanhrm... maybe.  I'll have to try it.00:17
SomeGuy2Lenovo has that option, not sure about Dell though00:17
gtozzikwaadpepper: i'm kubuntuuser... i've manager to start my desktop :D00:20
kwaadpepperyay00:20
gtozzifor some reason i was still running lightdm, i've replaced it with sddm and it started00:20
kwaadpepperok lol this is madness00:20
gtozzinow almost everything runs fine as long as i start with "nosplash"00:20
kwaadpepperhow could that happen00:20
gtozziif i start with "splash", it freezes on splash screen00:21
kwaadpepperso your using mesa right now ?00:21
SomeGuy2I had that happen too00:21
gtozziyep, i'm using the intel driver00:22
SomeGuy2Doesn't seem to be a problem with the FOSS nvidia drivers, but if you install the propietary ones without adding nosplash then kubuntu throws a shitfit and refuses to boot00:22
gtozzithe new plasma looks very nice00:22
drleviathanhow does one select "nosplash"?  my manually editing a particular config file?  or some other method?00:22
SomeGuy2you have to add to the grub config and update grub00:22
kwaadpepperpressing e in grub00:22
gtozziSomeGuy2: it doesn't really throw... it just freezes on the "kubuntu" screen00:22
kwaadpepperwas is shown if you press f12 ?00:23
kwaadpepperit hides splash00:23
kwaadpeppergtozzi: have you tried to update flgrx drivers and using them ?00:25
gtozzi<kwaadpepper: yep, but when i start X using fglrx, it just freezes on a black screen00:26
gtozziif intel ones will keep working, they'll ben fine00:26
gtozzithey should be less battery-draining00:26
kwaadpepperoh what a shame00:27
gtozziand i don't really need "special effects" :D00:27
kwaadpepperit should be working though00:27
kwaadpepperalso i saw , there is no equivalent of bumblebee with intel/ati hybrid system right ?00:27
kwaadpepperbumblebee allows system to run using intel and run specific programs using optirun command00:28
kwaadpepperrun promgrams using nvidia card00:28
gtozziuhm... never heard of anything like that00:28
kwaadpepperhum ok00:29
gtozzii've always used the intel driver only00:29
kwaadpepperjust in case you missed it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/149388800:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1493888 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu Wily) "FGLRX incompatible with gcc 5" [High,Fix committed]00:29
kwaadpepperit gives advices so you could manage to use your ati card :p00:30
gtozziwell, last distros have been a disaster about stability00:30
gtozzii now see the new interface is very nice and complete00:30
gtozzihoping they'll focus on fixing bugs :)00:30
kwaadpepperI really think it is the opposite from desktop point of view00:31
kwaadpepperit is just driver/kernels issue00:31
kwaadpepperannoying nonetheless00:31
kwaadpepperin my case default install bootup using nouveau wich make CP00:31
kwaadpepperU stuck and crash lol00:32
kwaadpepperCPU*00:32
gtozzii had bad experiences with nouveau too00:32
gtozzidoes any good video card for linux really exists?00:32
kwaadpepperolder video cars you mean ?00:33
SomeGuy2basically just pray to stallman that the FOSS AMD drivers improve00:33
kwaadpepperYeah stall should bring gnu drivers00:33
thenerdjonesnow i get An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD failed. when i try to install00:34
gtozzikwaadpepper: i mean ANY video card :D00:34
gtozziSomeGuy2: lol00:34
kwaadpeppergtozzi: Well i have to say that in my case i have a GT70, and with drivers installd it just work better than any windows stuff !00:35
kwaadpepperjust love playing games on linux00:35
gtozzinvidia then00:36
kwaadpepperyes00:37
kwaadpepperAnd like i said bumblebee, is old but the hell it works00:37
SomeGuy2I still dual boot windows for most gaming, evewn with a 670 I still can't even max out CS:GO on Linux. Also no SLI support00:37
kwaadpeppernot like nvidia-prime shit00:37
kwaadpepperI guess we just know why ths linux finger was for !00:38
kwaadpepperBut with the steambox, it is gonna change00:39
SomeGuy2Sure it will00:39
kwaadpepperjust look at www.gamingonlinux.com00:39
kwaadpepperBatman Drak knight announced : woooot !00:39
gtozziluckily i only play very old 2d games00:40
gtozziany video card can run them00:40
gtozzi(as long as it doesn't mess up with drivers)00:40
kwaadpepperspeaking of that i've found Pol usefull too when trying to play Dawn of War 40k00:41
kwaadpeppereven managed to make Payday2 work on it00:41
SomeGuy2Just in time for it become Pay-2-Play-Day200:42
kwaadpepperLol ,absolutely right, and they may need more money to port it to linux too, as it was delayed00:43
thenerdjoneson this site: http://askubuntu.com/questions/78403/apt-configuration-problem-an-attempt-to-configure-apt-to-install-additional-pa i have always tried option 1, if i wanted to try option 2 i downloaded the iso. extracted filesystem.squashfs, but where do i put it on the live usb that im on now?00:48
kwaadpepperthenerdjones: on live cd form an usb key ?00:50
kwaadpepperthenerdjones: i really think you should check your materials, because your issue seem far complicated from what it should be, the installation process of ubuntu should be way easier with less issues00:51
kwaadpepperthenerdjones: if you want to try to install ubuntu form and usb key, use unetbootin00:52
kwaadpepperand format an usb key into FAT system00:52
kwaadpepperthan use the downloaded iso to make the key bootable with kubuntu inside00:53
thenerdjonesi already have the usb key, thats how im talking to you now00:53
kwaadpepperok but the installation process fails right ?00:53
kwaadpepperdoes your usb key ahd any issues ?00:53
thenerdjonesnever has before00:54
kwaadpepperbecause really i never had problems like htat00:54
kwaadpepperHave you tried direct installation ?00:54
kwaadpepperwithout booting from live cd ?00:55
kwaadpepperi mean into desktop00:55
thenerdjonesyes, i get the error saying it is trying to add sources from cd, this pc doesnt even have a cd drive00:55
thenerdjonesthe usb thinks its a cdrom00:55
kwaadpepperAnd you checked your hard drive ?00:55
kwaadpeppercan you access it from the live cd ?00:56
thenerdjonesi dont have a live cd, only usb, no cdrom on the computer00:56
kwaadpepperi mean mount partitions format using gparted ?00:56
kwaadpepperyeah but the livecd is the usb key in your case00:56
kwaadpepperis gparted working right now ? showing your disk format partition ?00:57
kwaadpepperMaybe your hardrive is dead or near to die00:58
thenerdjonesits all brand new, gparted is not on this usb drive, but the kde partition manager is showing it00:58
thenerdjonesi an pull it up in dolphin, and i have 2 hard drives in this pc, both give me the error for cd drive when i try to install to either one00:59
kwaadpepperwell, did you check anything special on installation ?01:01
kwaadpepperYou are connected to internet so for updates it should directly downloads them01:01
kwaadpepperwhat is exactly the error message ?01:02
thenerdjonesthe first one is this "An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD failed."01:03
Matt526Make a new live USB. Use dd to make it and not unetbootin01:03
Matt526Something likely went wrong making yours01:03
kwaadpepperhttp://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=12635101:03
kwaadpepperjust found a work around here01:04
Matt526Or do that. It sounds easier01:04
Matt526But the fact that a step like that is merged m01:06
Matt526Needed* makes me question the integrity of your usb01:06
kwaadpepperthat was my first taught also01:07
Matt526That sounds like file corruption or something01:08
Matt526Did you do a checksum of your image before creating the drive?01:08
kwaadpepperAn installation with corrupted files could be funny if succeed to boot è_é01:09
Matt526Unetbootin used to make a lot of drives for me that worked great until you tried to install from them01:11
Matt526So now I only use dd01:11
kwaadpepperMatt526: have you an eg to use dd ?01:12
Matt526eg?01:13
kwaadpepperhttps://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/e.g.01:14
kwaadpepperexample01:14
Matt526Oh like an example command?01:14
Matt526Sure01:14
kwaadpepperyeas i meant that01:14
Matt526Sudo dd if=something.iso  of=/dev/"your USB drive "01:15
kwaadpepperoh ok pretty easy though01:16
kwaadpepperThanks for that01:16
Matt526Yes. Be very careful that you pick the right location for of01:16
kwaadpepperSure it could be funny otherwise x)01:17
Matt526You can destroy hard drive data if you point it at your hard drive and not the usb01:17
kwaadpepperAlso just found a program giving some eg01:17
kwaadpeppersudo pip install eg01:17
kwaadpepperusage: eg tar01:17
Matt526Awesome01:18
Matt526Sometimes man pages are useful for that01:19
kwaadpepperyeah definitely adding to awesome programs like thefuck https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck01:19
kwaadpepperman pages are sometimes just too big for a little usage we want, but agreed they are useful01:20
Matt526Yeah I've seen that one before but I don't use it01:21
gtozziIt's time to sleep01:22
gtozzibye and thank you again :)01:22
kwaadpepperbye !01:22
Matt526Completion is so good with oh my zsh that I don't need spell correction01:22
kwaadpepperzhs is on my todo list with vim, cause i'm a nano guy sadly01:23
kwaadpepperit is true bash has its limitations with completions01:23
Matt526check out oh my zsh. It's basically just a config for for zsh but it makes for an awesome shell01:24
kwaadpepperBut it seems to brake some native stuff is it ?01:24
kwaadpepperI'm not sure if it is safe to switch on it01:25
kwaadpepperI may be a idiot cause the shebang take care of this but, i don't know01:26
kwaadpepperJust going to download it now, thats the right thing to do01:26
Matt526I think it works fine with bash stuff01:27
Matt526Fish I think had issues01:27
Matt526I think fish used different syntax on some things01:27
Matt526Theres no harm done with zsh01:28
kwaadpepperOh hows the transition with the .bashrc file also and all the aliases ?01:29
Matt526Once you're setup just copy what you need out of .bashrc Indy .zshrc01:30
Matt526Into*01:30
kwaadpepperOk thanks01:30
Matt526Zsh is super powerful but it's a lot to configure without oh my zsh01:31
kwaadpepperJust installed ohmyzsh i think i'll just playaround with it01:32
Matt526I enjoy it but it may not be for everyone01:33
Matt526Read up on it. There's a lot of cool features to test out01:35
kwaadpepperWell just installed and i could use same alias file, so thats a very good start, it also handles git folders ! but not bazaar folders sadly, maybe there is a plugin01:37
Matt526I haven't used bazaar but yeah it works well with git01:38
Matt526Expansion is nice though. /u/s/l tab will expand to /use/share/lib01:39
kwaadpepperdefinitely awesome !01:42
kwaadpepperThank you for that i'm gonna sleep have a good night or day depending01:42
Matt526No problem. Goodnight01:43
thenerdjonesso now im getting "The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/." when i try to install kubuntu, any one heard of this? most of what i find online is a simple "make sure youre connected to the internet" which i am03:00
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jonahI'm running ubuntu server and cups was working great with shared printer to local network but not to outside world. Now all of a sudden I can no longer connect to cups and just get "unable to connect" error when i visit 192.168.0.100:631 which used to work?08:07
jonahAny help to fix this would be really appreciated. Thanks!08:07
Smurphyjonah: is cups running ???08:25
TJ-Smurphy: we've solved it in #ubuntu now :)08:25
Smurphyok.08:26
SmurphyWhat was it ?08:26
Smurphyfilters or cups ?08:26
jonahSmurphy: hi it is running, but just can't get the admin interface to connect08:31
Smurphyjonah: admin interface to what ? Check the cups config then...08:32
jonahSmurphy: http://pastebin.com/hd9Cj9z108:33
SmurphyWhat error message you get ?08:35
Smurphyand - do you have a local firewall running on your box ?08:36
SmurphyThe config should be Ok.08:37
Smurphylooks OK.08:37
SmurphyI however have a difference in the admin UI configuration. I restrict access to the configuration file only, not the location.08:38
jonahSmurphy: when i do a cat of error_log I get http://pastebin.com/f4yN5pAF08:39
Smurphycups seems to be running already.08:49
Smurphymake a: service cups stop08:49
Smurphyanbd check if you can access it.08:49
jonahSmurphy: thanks Smurphy it's back up!08:51
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Smurphyok.08:54
jotikHi! Installing 14.04 from USB. Need dual boot windows from /dev/sda1. Graphical installer fails to detect free space on /dev/sda. Please advise! urgent ;/09:08
jotik/dev/sda has 3 partitions, /dev/sda1 being the NTFS, /dev/sda2 being swap and /dev/sda3 being ext4. The graphical installer only sees /dev/sda1 to fill the entire drive09:09
jotik`fdisk -l /dev/sda` identifies the partitions correctly and I can manage/mount them without trouble. I just need to install kubuntu. Can I do so from the command line of the installer CD?09:10
jotikHmm... it appears that parted doesn't see the partitions ;/09:13
hateballjotik: probably using GPT then09:14
hateballwhich parted does not support09:14
jotikhateball: probably because of old vrsion of parted in 14.04?09:14
jotikhateball: Any idea about how I could continue the installation process from the command line after manually setting up the partitions?09:15
TJ-On 14.04 parted (GNU parted) 2.3 reads GPT fine09:16
hateballhmmm09:16
TJ-jotik: maybe there's a hybrid MBR too confusing the tools09:16
hateballI seem to carry old misinformation09:17
TJ-hateball: always helps to have a handy chroot env to check with :D09:17
hateball:)09:17
hateballjotik: there is the the minimal installer you could use otherwise09:17
hateballjotik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD09:18
jotikcreating additional install media is not an option ;(09:18
hateballIt doesnt support UEFI tho, if you need that09:18
hateballI see09:18
jotikI need to install kubuntu from the regular installer image, but from the command line, I suppose.09:18
jotikno UEFI09:19
TJ-parted really should have an option to try the specific disk label the user wants09:19
jotikI can just mkswap/mkfs.ext4... but then?09:19
TJ-jotik: can you pastebin from the Live/installer ?09:19
jotikno network drivers ;/09:20
jotikTJ-: what do you need?09:20
TJ-jotik: I was hoping to get you to install gdisk/fdisk and compare the outputs :) I suspect there's a mismatch with a GPT and MBR hybrid09:20
TJ-jotik: which could bite you in other ways09:21
jotikTJ-: gdisk: found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format in memory... .and after that it shows the partitions correctly09:21
jotikWarning! Secondary partition talbe overlaps the last partition by 33 blocks! You will need to delete this partition or resize it in another utility.09:22
jotikI wonder if I can just delete the GPT then?09:22
TJ-Haha!09:22
TJ-Now hang on how the heck did the secondary get into that state?09:23
TJ-how has this disk been partitioned in the past? what tooling?09:23
TJ-Sounds like an original GPT install, then an MBR-only tool used on it09:23
jotikI probably tried everything in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions which didn't work properly, then booted to sysrescuecd and did ntfsresize09:24
Smurphyhateball: parted supports GPT from memory. Was then first partitioner to actually support if if my memory serves me well.09:24
jotikok, overwrote the GPT from gdisk...09:25
jotikwhohoo! Graphical instlaler sees free space. thnx09:25
SmurphyThat is something else ;)09:26
TJ-jotik: correct the size of the last partition, and make sure what is in it won't get damaged before you do so09:28
jotikTJ-: I deleted the partition. I left only the /dev/sda1, then used the graphical installer to create a swap and / there.09:29
TJ-jotik: oh, that's the easy solution then :D09:29
jotikyes, I needed a fast solution after resizing NTFS left windows unbootable (0xc000000e winload.exe not found)09:30
jotikand the windows recovery DVD wouldn't boot either ;/09:31
lordievaderGood morning.09:55
ucethi10:00
jubo2Dannnggg..10:38
jubo2All my 3 kubuntus are inaccessible10:39
jubo2Gui broken or so10:39
jubo2I can root shell though10:39
SmurphyYou upgraded to 15.10 ?10:40
SmurphyBut you need to give us more info if you want some help.10:40
jubo2Getting an empty usb stick in a few hours. Mom is bringing one e10:40
jubo2... Over10:40
jubo2Smurphy: is ait. I get stick. I dd the kubuntu.iso. Boot off that and sudo mount /home10:42
jubo2Look at fixing it more deeply when i get home10:43
EluusThe updates notification doesn't go away or change after I complete doing the updates10:45
Eluusdo you guys have that too?10:45
Eluusit only realizes that the system is up to date after I restart10:45
hateballEluus: Sadly Muon is not without its faults10:46
Eluushateball: so this is a known bug then?10:46
hateballEluus: I am guessing so, at least it happens to me10:47
hateballBut I just kill the GUI updater and run apt-get manually10:47
hateballSo I havent bothered checking more10:47
EluusI do apt-get manualy too10:47
EluusI should kill it10:47
Eluusby killing do you mean telling it not to check for updates right?10:48
Eluusguess not10:49
Eluusbecause it pops up after apt-get10:50
Eluushow do you kill it?10:50
lordievaderjubo2: What is the actual problem?10:53
mumoI need11:01
mumoJust installed Kubuntu 15.10 and not able to download any services for my Dolphin11:01
mumoI need compress and extract here11:02
blahblah15hi guys, my desktop hasn't any dashboard, what's the problem?11:09
blahblah15in 15.10, kde5.411:09
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BluesKajHiyas all11:41
clivejohi BluesKaj11:41
BluesKajhey clivejo11:42
lordievaderHey BluesKaj11:44
BluesKajhey lordievader11:44
Roeyhey all11:50
RoeyI was wondering11:50
Roeynow that I have both of you ( BluesKaj and lordievader), perhaps you can help me figure this problem out why I can't seem to mount my backup drive.11:51
lordievaderRoey: Does it give errors?11:51
Roeynot that I see any11:52
Roeyand none in dmesg or /var/log/syslog11:52
monkeyjuiceusb drive?11:52
Roeyright11:52
Roeymonkeyjuice:  yes11:52
BluesKajdo you have an entry in fstab for it?11:52
Roeyys I do11:52
Roeyon /dev/sdc11:52
lordievaderRoey: So you can mount it?11:52
Roey$ sudo mount /dev/sdc /backup11:53
Roeymount: special device /dev/sdc does not exist11:53
Roeyack11:53
lordievaderAh. That is an error.11:53
lordievadersdc doesn't exist. Should it?11:53
BluesKajyou have to give it a name afyer the uuid like /media/yourusername or some such11:53
BluesKajin fstab11:54
Roeyhttp://pastebin.com/02ZSV1yi11:54
Roeyok, now it is in sdb hten.. I am trying to mount it, one moment11:54
RoeyBluesKaj:  yeah I know11:55
lordievaderRoey: I see an sdb? No sdc...11:55
Roeyoh.  Now I see it.11:55
Roeyblah11:55
Roeywhy the heck did it switch letters11:55
Roeyanyway so thanks!!11:56
Roeynext issue:  I don't see my tablet in the KDE settings11:56
Roeymy Wacom tablet11:56
lordievaderRoey: Because those letters aren't fixed, that is why BluesKaj suggested to use uuid's. Those are fixed.11:56
Roeyok.11:57
RoeyHow do I get a device's UUID?11:57
BluesKajuse sudo blkid to find the UUID first thjen copy the string without the quotes, you don't need /dev/sdc in the fstab entry, the UUID worlks just fine11:57
Roeythanks11:58
mumoJust installed Kubuntu 15.10 and not able to download any services for my Dolphin. I need compress and extract here. Any assistance will be highly appreciated12:06
Roeymonkeyjuice, lordievader, BluesKaj: so now with this Wacom tablet, I don't see the settings panel for it12:06
Roeyin systemsettings5612:06
Roeyin systemsettings5 *12:07
BluesKajmumo, make sure you have ark installed12:08
jubo2Now in root shell.. Kubuntu is apparently thinking the external display that is not here is the primary12:10
jubo2The symptoms are that the screen goes dark after the loading that happens after the login12:12
BluesKajmumo, in the dolphin services download look for file -roller12:13
RoeyBluesKaj:  I switched to my other backup drive to sync to it, too, now that the other one is synced.  I get this error:  http://pastebin.com/swNcHyRd12:17
Roeylordievader:  ^12:18
BluesKajRoey, have you rebooted ?12:21
lordievaderRoey: That is systemd generating service files from your fstab.12:22
lordievaderAnd since sdc doesn't exist he cannout mount or unmount it.12:22
BluesKajit should auto-mount via UUID  at boot12:24
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lmfaqHello, is there someone expert on usb installation of kubuntu?12:49
squashthat seems really specific but maybe you can state the issue you're having12:50
lmfaqi have an usb key "datatraveler 4g", i downloaded kubuntu last ISO file and i made it bootable in the usb key with unetbootin (but doens't work, so i tried also with universal usb isntaller)12:53
lordievaderlmfaq: "it doesn't worl12:54
lordievaderwork*" could you be more specific?12:54
lmfaqi made it bootable on a win 7 computer, and it doesn't boot in this pc with linux12:54
squashdid you adjust your BIOS boot order to prioritize usb over hdd?12:55
lmfaqyes, it start to boot from usb12:55
squashso you get the netbootin menu after booting?12:55
lmfaqmh no, it just says something about the copyright, if i use unetbootin it's something like 20xx - 201312:57
lmfaqif i use universal usb installer the copyright date is different, 20xx - 201012:57
lmfaqunder that i have this symbol " _ "12:57
lmfaqand nothing happen12:57
lmfaqi can only ctrl+alt+canc12:57
squashverify that you are booting from a USB2 port and not a USB3 port12:58
lmfaqthis pc is an old aspire one, so bios features sucks a bit, it only has usb2 by the way12:58
lmfaqand i'm actually running bodhi linux here12:59
lmfaqand now i'm trying to format they usbkey with an hp tool on the windows pc12:59
lmfaqmaybe the problem is that this usb key is usb 3.0?13:00
squashif you have a linux system available, try using dd to create the image on your usb stick. sudo dd if=Downloads/kubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdX13:01
lmfaqi just checked, dd is used to clone a disk, but not to make it bootable, so i think is the same if i open the iso and i copy files into the usb key13:03
lmfaqor maybe i'm totaly wrong lol13:03
squashyou also need to be sure that your Aspire has a 64 bit cpu if you are using the 64 bit image13:03
squashif it has the Intel Atom cpu, that's 32 bit13:03
lmfaqyes no prob i'll change it with i38613:04
lordievaderlmfaq: dd is a bit copy tool, if the image is bootable the thing dd copies is too. The iso is bootable ;)13:04
SmurphyOha. Just removed a USB cable from my mac mini, and it locked hard the OS ....13:04
lmfaqlordievader, i'm not expert but i think CD/DVD boot is different from USB13:05
lordievaderlmfaq: The dd method works though...13:05
squashdd is the recommended method for command line13:06
lmfaqok then, i'm going to try, thanks a lot squash and lordievader13:06
lmfaqjust a last curiosity, what "of=/dev/sdX" is used for?13:07
squashchange /dev/sdX to /dev/[whatever device your usb stick is]13:08
squashuse 'dmesg' to see what it got assigned, it will be at the bottom once you plug it in13:08
lmfaqgreat, thanks again, really useful for me13:10
squashAh dang it, the issue that brought me here has returned. kolourpaint renders incorrectly.13:21
squashand now all my dialogs are broken again13:30
squashthis time I'll do some diagnostics though. back in a bit.13:36
squashlogging out and back in solved it, so now I'm mad.13:41
ejayHi, is there any way to add a panel without crashing plasma?13:47
BluesKajejay,other than the default panel?13:50
yossarianuk hey - can anyone recommend a good emulation news site for Linux (i.e mame/c64/amiga emulation) ?13:50
yossarianukI used to use http://linuxemu.retrofaction.com/ but thats been long dead13:50
ejayBluesKaj: yes13:51
BluesKajejay, dunno, never tried , the default is enough for my needs13:52
ejayBluesKaj: oh, ofc13:52
BluesKajejay, are you a former ubuntu user who wants a panel at the top of the screen, if so afaik you just need to drag it13:54
ejayBluesKaj: no, I'm a former kubuntu user that wants to add panel to his secondary screen but adding another panel is just too much for plasma it seems. Why there is a option to add another panel if it will crash plasma?13:56
ejayBluesKaj: oh, and good luck with draging any panel anywhere.13:57
* lordievader is able to create a new panel and drag it to any screen without troubles13:58
BluesKajejay, really? then plasma5 has dropped more features then I thought ... not surprised, plasma is a regression IMO13:59
BluesKajthan13:59
BluesKajthank the stars I just need one large monitor14:00
ejaylordievader: well, I guess that with plasma you need more luck then ideas14:02
marco-parilloOK, I did get a plasma5 crash when I added a new default panel, but it seems to have been created and is now at the top14:02
lordievaderejay: Running 5.4.2 here on Gentoo, perhaps that has something to do with it.14:03
lordievaderejay: Anyhow, report a bug ;)14:03
lordievader!bugs14:03
ubottuIf you find a bug in Kubuntu, please follow the instructions at https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Bugs/Reporting to report the issue to the developers.14:03
ejaylordievader: I'm done with reporting bugs. I could spend whole day with bug tracker. I need to work to pay my internet bills so I can insult incompetent kde devs.14:04
BluesKajejay, mosy bugs are dupes by now anyway14:05
BluesKajmost14:05
marco-parilloFunny, then I deleted my normal (bottom) panel, and then adding a new panel did not crash Plasma.14:05
squashthat's because of a drkonqi bug that won't let you report a bug as being related14:05
squashmy problem with kde bug reporting in a nutshell: http://i.imgur.com/Z7Zlvue.jpg14:07
ejaysquash: future is now14:07
BluesKajaq I reported a bug last week that had previously been reported , so mine was dupe, but there was no indication that it was a dupe when I reported it.14:08
BluesKajsquash,^14:08
BluesKajreporting bugs has largely become a waste of time on any OS that has aleady been released IME14:10
Smurphyack ...14:18
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yossarianukBluesKaj: surely not true... sometimes you may find a bug that also effects older versions too...14:56
alvinsquash: Heh, I tried ubuntu-bug, but it crashed too14:56
yossarianukalvin: that's fairly bad.....14:56
alvinYep. Segfaulted. Can't reproduce, because the IMAP bug (can't delete mails) is too bad and I'm in the process of restoring a previous version.14:57
alvinI've notified the Kontact people, and there is some kind of KDE bug report, so it'll probably get fixed.14:58
yossarianukyou could just report a bug manually )i.e at launchpad,etc)14:59
alvinYes, and it's a KDE bug. Although I don't know of any other distro's that have the same version of Kmail we have. Weird that this wasn't seen in testing. It's a pretty grave error.15:00
alvinKubuntu users have been posting here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31615315:01
ubottuKDE bug 316153 in general "can't move or delete messages in imap inbox" [Grave,Confirmed]15:01
alvinWhat happens is that your mail is moved to the trash, and suddenly you have 2 mails that can't be deleted. The original (in Inbox) and the copy in Trash.15:01
rishabh_hello , i am facing a strange problem on my system .if i dont use my machine for sometime ,  a blackscreen comes up from where i cant get back to the desktop .the only to get back to desktop is to send the shutdown signal but in doing this internet goes off  so ultimately i have to reset my machine .i am using kubuntu 15.04 on virtaul machine15:02
rishabh_the only way*15:03
rishabh_can anyone help me out with this ?15:04
squashif it's a virtual machine, try disabling the screensaver/display power management15:05
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rishabh_squash: alright thanks  i will try that15:12
DoyleHey. The DNS entries specified in the connection editor aren't being populated in resolv.conf. Is this a known issue? Fresh install.15:24
jubo2Hi.. I'm on Kubuntu15.10 live version to fix my installation of 15.1015:26
jubo2Something wrong in the display settings causing a blank or black screen right after the loader bar after login finishes15:27
jubo2Something to do with the docking station. This was docked when I installed this15:27
jubo2I am guessing it thinks of the external display as the primary one and turns the internal off mistakenly coz it thinkgs15:29
jubo2it thinking something mistakenly..15:30
DoyleFound it. Disable dnsmasq...15:30
jubo2where are the confs for the displays?15:30
jubo2I go sudo mount the system containing the congigs15:31
DoyleIt might just be me, but if there's a configuration field, it should probably work without having to edit sys files. Regular users won't be able to figure this out.15:32
jubo2ait.. now in the old  ~ directory15:33
lmfaqrieccomi qua, facendo il DD if=/isokubuntu of=usbkey non mi risulta una chiavetta bootable15:46
lmfaqdd minuscolo15:46
lmfaqprovando da winzoz con universalusbinstaller o netbootin comincia a fare il boot dall'usb, però si ferma alla presentazione del copyright15:48
lmfaqnon parte nemmeno l'interfatta di netbootin15:48
lmfaqoh! sorry wrong language!15:49
lmfaqi'm trying to make a bootable kubuntu usb key15:50
lmfaqi tryied with dd command if=kubuntu.iso of=usbkey but it doesn't even try to boot15:51
lmfaqi tried with uui and netbootin from a windows pc, but it start saying something about the copiright leaving a " _ " some lines under it15:52
lmfaqsomeone have some ideas to solve this?15:52
Smurphylmfaq: dd if=kubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1m should do it. You need to identify the right device though.15:53
lmfaqi didnt use bs=xxx, is possible that it's the issue?15:53
Smurphyyes...15:54
SmurphyYou need to write it to the USB Key.15:54
Smurphyidentify the USB Key - stick it into the computer, then on a console issue: dmesg15:54
lmfaqbut bs is not the writing speed?15:54
Smurphylet it run until the end, and see which /dev/sd???? it issues.15:54
lmfaqsdb115:54
Smurphybs=block size....15:54
SmurphySo make it: dd if=kubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1m15:55
Smurphydon't put it on /dev/sdb1 !!! => /dev/sdb15:55
SmurphyOh, and erase the file "usbkey" in your download/home directory - cause that's where it was written to ;)15:55
lmfaqok, i tried also with sdb, btw i always missed the bs..damn me...i'm going to try again, so ok i format the usb devide and re-try15:56
lmfaqdecice*15:56
lmfaqomg device, sorry15:57
Smurphythe bs=1m is just to speed up the write process... Else it takes way longer :)15:57
SmurphyAnd - make sure the iso image you have downloaded is complete -> compare the MD5 Checksums ...15:57
lmfaqmhm..maybe i understand wrong...i did "sudo dd if=/home/lmfaq/kub.iso of=/dev/sdb", i want avoid bs if not necessary15:59
SmurphyWhy avoid bs ? it is block size. You don't have to use it. It will just take longer to write it down.16:00
BluesKajdon't avoid bs=1m it helps write the bits faster16:00
SmurphyI hipe it works. I have to go...16:00
lmfaqok smurphy, thank a lot16:01
lmfaqby the way if i joint the usb key i can see all the same files that i find inside the kub.iso16:01
lmfaqif i join, if i open16:02
TerminalVelocityi'm looking for some guidance regarding my recent upgrade from 15.04 to 15.1016:06
TerminalVelocityso, the upgrade went smoothly :-)16:06
TerminalVelocityone minor issue though16:06
TerminalVelocityprior to the upgrade i installed dropbox using the .deb package provided by Dropbox.com16:07
TerminalVelocityin verion 15.04, it installed the dropbox icon into my tray16:07
TerminalVelocityafter the upgrade, the dropbox icon which was in the the tray is no longer there16:07
TerminalVelocityany ideas on how to get the dropbox icon to show up in the tray again?16:08
BluesKajTerminalVelocity, not being a default app, dropbox needs reinstalling, that's all16:13
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TerminalVelocityBluesKaj, yes...i tried that (dpkg --purge dropbox) and reinstalled the .deb package.  that did not seem to work.  do i need to reboot my machine?16:15
BluesKajmost likely TerminalVelocity , yes16:15
jubo2So my black screen after login and loading progress bar..16:25
jubo2Is it likely an Plasma problem or sould I look for it in x or something..16:26
jubo2Now that I am able to boot to livecd version and mount the /home16:26
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jubo2any help? plasma or X problem if the screen turns black after the loader bar after login16:44
jubo2I have mounted my /home partition so I can change the files using this LiveCD and try rebooting to the Kubuntu15.10 installation till it doesn't turn black16:44
jubo2I'm looking at ~/.kde/share/config but not really sure what I should be looking16:51
jubo2I'm guessing the black screen is due to some mixup about the internal and external display16:51
jubo2I mean in the installed Kubuntu15.10 sometimes showed the kde-menu in the internal and sometimes in the external monitor16:52
jubo2help?16:54
kubuntuhai17:01
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Guest2694im trying Kubuntu from live usb. how do i turn off kwin composite effect?17:02
Guest2694also i am installing plasmoid-widget-redshift but i cannot find/add it from "add widget" menu, did i miss something?17:03
jubo2I found some instructions. Rebooting now to try them17:03
Guest2694this is my first time using KDE/Plasma 5, lots of things are missing from KDE 4 :(17:05
drleviathanjubo2, you're probably on the path toward the right solution but one workaround is to move the entire KDE config directory to the side and try to login without one --> a default config will be copied into place and you probably won't get the black screen.17:06
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drleviathanGuest2694, that is always the case a WindowManager is overhauled.17:09
drleviathanFeatures are left unimplemented to get the new version out.17:09
drleviathanUsually the good features get finished and added back later.17:10
GamayunGuest2694: Is that the plasma 5 version? I think it is called redshift-control-*.plasmoid17:10
drleviathanI think I'll install Plasma5 on an unimportant machine first to see which features have been lost.17:10
Guest2694drleviathan: ok that topic is too "political", now what about the missing widget? does it mean that the redshift plasmoid aren't compatible with KDE in Kubuntu Wily?17:11
GamayunGuest2694: Try adding it from the 'Get new widgets' button...17:12
Guest2694Gamayun: i did and it is not there. does it mean that it is incompatible?17:13
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jubo2got some more info on the problem.17:14
GamayunGuest2694: Well, I'm using it now, so it shouldn't be.. ;)17:15
jubo2Hitting CRTL-ALT-F1 in the black screen gives a text shell17:15
GamayunGuest2694: Note that it depends on libqt5qml-graphicaleffects17:15
jubo2hitting ALT-F1 gives the black screen back17:15
Guest2694Gamayun: the package name is plasma-widget-redshift, right?17:15
jubo2and when I logged in into the prompt it had a message that cannot find primary display17:16
jubo2or something like that17:16
GamayunGuest2694: Hm, no I think that's the older one...17:16
jubo2how do I connect wifi without a GUI_17:16
jubo2I installed irssi so i could get help from the shell I am able to access17:17
Guest2694Gamayun: ok what's the package name, i probably installed the older one, like you've said17:17
Guest2694cannot live without redshift17:18
GamayunGuest2694: Not sure it's in the repos yet. I've installed it from the button in the 'Add widgets' menu.17:19
Guest2694DAE have problem with login that took so long?17:20
Guest2694Gamayun: ok found it, works OK now. cheers bro17:24
jubo2gonna boot there and see what xrandr says17:25
GamayunGuest2694: Np ;)17:26
Guest2694So can i turn off Kwin compisotor or not? feels so sluggish even with Blur effect turn off. GPU is Intel HD440017:27
ogigmkubuntu 15.10 reboot give no gui, command line says Errors encountered while processing base-files, any ideas?17:35
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jubo2Hi again17:45
jubo2Running 'xrandr' just says the same "display not available"17:45
jubo2Somewhere there is a setting which is making the machine expect to find an external display on the DisplayPort that's on the dock that is not here17:46
jubo2this Kubuntu liked to (apparently) lottery which display it thought to be the primary17:47
jubo2I gonna toy around with Xreset if that helps17:54
jubo2hiya.. now in irssi in text shell17:59
jubo2managed to get internets connected to this broken OS17:59
hsnrhi18:00
jubo2running Xreset didn't cause noticable change18:00
amichairwhat package does the software update notification icon belong to?18:09
amichairalso, how do I investigate why libqgpgme1 is being held back after upgrade to 15.10?18:16
drleviathanamichair, do you know the icon file for that update notification?  If so you can do a "dpkg -S filename" to figure out which package installed it.18:21
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amichairdrleviathan: thanks, but I have no idea where the icon file is18:45
drleviathanamichair, the icon probably lives in /usr/share18:46
drleviathanyou can hunt for icons with "notification" in their names like this:18:46
drleviathancd /usr/share18:46
drleviathanfind ./ | grep -i notification | grep png18:47
drleviathanperhaps the result of such a search will reveal a likely candidate18:47
amichairor in one command, find /usr/share -name "*notification*.png"18:47
amichair:-)18:47
amichairwhich results in a few tens of results18:48
drleviathanyeah, well if you know which icon theme you're using you can probably narrow it down18:48
amichairdpkg -S just shows it to be part of the theme package18:49
drleviathanand you were asking which package installed it.  What do you really want to do?18:51
amichairdrleviathan: oh, I see the confusion18:52
amichairdrleviathan: I'm looking for the package to which the functionality of the icon belongs18:53
amichairdrleviathan: i.e. whatever makes software update notifications popup and changes the icon  accordingly18:53
amichairthere's always a red x on it18:53
amichairalthough come to think of it, maybe it's somehow related to the held back package issue18:53
amichairperhaps I should tackle that one first18:54
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hammerandtongs_hello, is anyone aware of this bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9250420:32
ubottuFreedesktop bug 92504 in Drivers/DRI/nouveau "[NVA5] Corruption in Plasma 5 on resume -- set_domain failures" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]20:32
hammerandtongs_this causes severe hangs on plasmashell20:33
hammerandtongs_macbook air 2011 for me20:33
hammerandtongs_i didn't find a reference to it in launchpad20:34
finetundra__hammerandtongs_: all I can think to say is try a different DE. Plasma 5 still has bugs that are being ironed out20:41
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hammerandtongs_finetundra__: its a solved bug in kernel 4.3 unfortunately it leaves plasma unusable in 15.1020:57
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OrbeitrolHello, i have kubuntu 15.2 and im having a problem with the icons tray, the wifi icon disappears and the battery icon too and to make them appear again i have to deactivate and activate them, can someone help me with that issue please?21:37
soeeOrbeitrol: it is not Kubuntu bug21:49
soeethis is Plasma 5 issue, and devs are investigating it21:49
soeebut it's not so easy to track it down21:49
Orbeitrolsoee: thanks you22:01
rom1504vlc is broken (can't fullscreen videos) in 15.1022:10
rom1504anyway to fix that ?22:11
Xavi92Is it possible to compile GCC 5.2.0 on Kubuntu 12.04?23:05
drleviathanyou mean you want to install gcc-5.2 on Kubuntu 12.04 so that you can compile other things using gcc-5.2?23:07
* drleviathan doesn't know how to do it.23:07
Unit193Basically, don't.23:08
ussher_my kubuntu 14.04 system slows down over the course of a day, its becoming a habbit to reboot around 4:00 to speed it back up again.  Are there any GUI type tools to help figure out where the bottleneck is?23:49
Eluuskubuntu started faster this time, is the slow boot bug fixed?23:56

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