[00:00] you saved me [00:00] i only had to symlink the driver into the right directory [00:01] lol [00:01] nive [00:01] nice, also fglrx-installer is patched now Drybones [00:01] just looking at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/wily-changes/2015-October/012298.html [00:02] kubuntuuser: so you can now boot properly ? [00:03] no, but at least i have a desktop :) [00:03] yay thats a start [00:04] only as root [00:05] on rescue mode you could try to update fglrx-installer or reinstall [00:05] i also read the bug was afecting 4.2 kernel [00:05] workaround was to use 4.1 [00:05] that you could try [00:06] thanks to Drybones for the linl :p [00:06] well when i tried to set it up the way i think it should be set up.... / on sda, device for grub boot loader on /dev/sda, it says it cant update grub... [00:08] thenerdjones: why not letting the default stuff and just give it a try ? [00:09] well when i try with the default settings...Partition(s) 1, 2, 3, 5 on /dev/sdb have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use. As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use. You should reboot now before making further changes. [00:10] im going to reboot the computer back into live mode and try again, i think i have been playing with too many things [00:10] ill brb [00:11] whew! I was considering trying to install kubunto on an intel+ATI video-chipsetted laptop... mostly because the Windows system can't even seem to use the ATI card [00:11] however now I see that it is a bad idea. [00:12] Thinkpad? [00:12] it occurs to me now... buying this Dell 7548 Inspiron with intel+ATI was a bad idea. [00:13] Windows actually seems to do a decent job automatically installing drivers for ATI cards, worked on my TP when I installed windows 8, and that card wasn't even supported by ATI [00:14] Optimus laptops are worse under linux [00:15] just managed to use nvidia-prime and bumblebee together, but ati users are i think pretty ok on linux [00:15] This is a just a release bug [00:15] it is corrected according this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1493888 [00:15] Launchpad bug 1493888 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu Wily) "FGLRX incompatible with gcc 5" [High,Fix committed] [00:16] Dell happily informs me that the ATI driver is completely up to date. However the ATI Catalyst application (or whatever) says it cannot access the ATI card. Also, although I have manually specified certain applications to use the ATI card none of them successfully do, they all try to use the embedded intel chipset. [00:16] Can you switch them in the BIOS? [00:17] hrm... maybe. I'll have to try it. [00:17] Lenovo has that option, not sure about Dell though [00:20] kwaadpepper: i'm kubuntuuser... i've manager to start my desktop :D [00:20] yay [00:20] for some reason i was still running lightdm, i've replaced it with sddm and it started [00:20] ok lol this is madness [00:20] now almost everything runs fine as long as i start with "nosplash" [00:20] how could that happen [00:21] if i start with "splash", it freezes on splash screen [00:21] so your using mesa right now ? [00:21] I had that happen too [00:22] yep, i'm using the intel driver [00:22] Doesn't seem to be a problem with the FOSS nvidia drivers, but if you install the propietary ones without adding nosplash then kubuntu throws a shitfit and refuses to boot [00:22] the new plasma looks very nice [00:22] how does one select "nosplash"? my manually editing a particular config file? or some other method? [00:22] you have to add to the grub config and update grub [00:22] pressing e in grub [00:22] SomeGuy2: it doesn't really throw... it just freezes on the "kubuntu" screen [00:23] was is shown if you press f12 ? [00:23] it hides splash [00:25] gtozzi: have you tried to update flgrx drivers and using them ? [00:26] if intel ones will keep working, they'll ben fine [00:26] they should be less battery-draining [00:27] oh what a shame [00:27] and i don't really need "special effects" :D [00:27] it should be working though [00:27] also i saw , there is no equivalent of bumblebee with intel/ati hybrid system right ? [00:28] bumblebee allows system to run using intel and run specific programs using optirun command [00:28] run promgrams using nvidia card [00:28] uhm... never heard of anything like that [00:29] hum ok [00:29] i've always used the intel driver only [00:29] just in case you missed it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1493888 [00:29] Launchpad bug 1493888 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu Wily) "FGLRX incompatible with gcc 5" [High,Fix committed] [00:30] it gives advices so you could manage to use your ati card :p [00:30] well, last distros have been a disaster about stability [00:30] i now see the new interface is very nice and complete [00:30] hoping they'll focus on fixing bugs :) [00:31] I really think it is the opposite from desktop point of view [00:31] it is just driver/kernels issue [00:31] annoying nonetheless [00:31] in my case default install bootup using nouveau wich make CP [00:32] U stuck and crash lol [00:32] CPU* [00:32] i had bad experiences with nouveau too [00:32] does any good video card for linux really exists? [00:33] older video cars you mean ? [00:33] basically just pray to stallman that the FOSS AMD drivers improve [00:33] Yeah stall should bring gnu drivers [00:34] now i get An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD failed. when i try to install [00:34] kwaadpepper: i mean ANY video card :D [00:34] SomeGuy2: lol [00:35] gtozzi: Well i have to say that in my case i have a GT70, and with drivers installd it just work better than any windows stuff ! [00:35] just love playing games on linux [00:36] nvidia then [00:37] yes [00:37] And like i said bumblebee, is old but the hell it works [00:37] I still dual boot windows for most gaming, evewn with a 670 I still can't even max out CS:GO on Linux. Also no SLI support [00:37] not like nvidia-prime shit [00:38] I guess we just know why ths linux finger was for ! [00:39] But with the steambox, it is gonna change [00:39] Sure it will [00:39] just look at www.gamingonlinux.com [00:39] Batman Drak knight announced : woooot ! [00:40] luckily i only play very old 2d games [00:40] any video card can run them [00:40] (as long as it doesn't mess up with drivers) [00:41] speaking of that i've found Pol usefull too when trying to play Dawn of War 40k [00:41] even managed to make Payday2 work on it [00:42] Just in time for it become Pay-2-Play-Day2 [00:43] Lol ,absolutely right, and they may need more money to port it to linux too, as it was delayed [00:48] on this site: http://askubuntu.com/questions/78403/apt-configuration-problem-an-attempt-to-configure-apt-to-install-additional-pa i have always tried option 1, if i wanted to try option 2 i downloaded the iso. extracted filesystem.squashfs, but where do i put it on the live usb that im on now? [00:50] thenerdjones: on live cd form an usb key ? [00:51] thenerdjones: i really think you should check your materials, because your issue seem far complicated from what it should be, the installation process of ubuntu should be way easier with less issues [00:52] thenerdjones: if you want to try to install ubuntu form and usb key, use unetbootin [00:52] and format an usb key into FAT system [00:53] than use the downloaded iso to make the key bootable with kubuntu inside [00:53] i already have the usb key, thats how im talking to you now [00:53] ok but the installation process fails right ? [00:53] does your usb key ahd any issues ? [00:54] never has before [00:54] because really i never had problems like htat [00:54] Have you tried direct installation ? [00:55] without booting from live cd ? [00:55] i mean into desktop [00:55] yes, i get the error saying it is trying to add sources from cd, this pc doesnt even have a cd drive [00:55] the usb thinks its a cdrom [00:55] And you checked your hard drive ? [00:56] can you access it from the live cd ? [00:56] i dont have a live cd, only usb, no cdrom on the computer [00:56] i mean mount partitions format using gparted ? [00:56] yeah but the livecd is the usb key in your case [00:57] is gparted working right now ? showing your disk format partition ? [00:58] Maybe your hardrive is dead or near to die [00:58] its all brand new, gparted is not on this usb drive, but the kde partition manager is showing it [00:59] i an pull it up in dolphin, and i have 2 hard drives in this pc, both give me the error for cd drive when i try to install to either one [01:01] well, did you check anything special on installation ? [01:01] You are connected to internet so for updates it should directly downloads them [01:02] what is exactly the error message ? [01:03] the first one is this "An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD failed." [01:03] Make a new live USB. Use dd to make it and not unetbootin [01:03] Something likely went wrong making yours [01:03] http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=126351 [01:04] just found a work around here [01:04] Or do that. It sounds easier [01:06] But the fact that a step like that is merged m [01:06] Needed* makes me question the integrity of your usb [01:07] that was my first taught also [01:08] That sounds like file corruption or something [01:08] Did you do a checksum of your image before creating the drive? [01:09] An installation with corrupted files could be funny if succeed to boot è_é [01:11] Unetbootin used to make a lot of drives for me that worked great until you tried to install from them [01:11] So now I only use dd [01:12] Matt526: have you an eg to use dd ? [01:13] eg? [01:14] https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/e.g. [01:14] example [01:14] Oh like an example command? [01:14] Sure [01:14] yeas i meant that [01:15] Sudo dd if=something.iso of=/dev/"your USB drive " [01:16] oh ok pretty easy though [01:16] Thanks for that [01:16] Yes. Be very careful that you pick the right location for of [01:17] Sure it could be funny otherwise x) [01:17] You can destroy hard drive data if you point it at your hard drive and not the usb [01:17] Also just found a program giving some eg [01:17] sudo pip install eg [01:17] usage: eg tar [01:18] Awesome [01:19] Sometimes man pages are useful for that [01:19] yeah definitely adding to awesome programs like thefuck https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck [01:20] man pages are sometimes just too big for a little usage we want, but agreed they are useful [01:21] Yeah I've seen that one before but I don't use it [01:22] It's time to sleep [01:22] bye and thank you again :) [01:22] bye ! [01:22] Completion is so good with oh my zsh that I don't need spell correction [01:23] zhs is on my todo list with vim, cause i'm a nano guy sadly [01:23] it is true bash has its limitations with completions [01:24] check out oh my zsh. It's basically just a config for for zsh but it makes for an awesome shell [01:24] But it seems to brake some native stuff is it ? [01:25] I'm not sure if it is safe to switch on it [01:26] I may be a idiot cause the shebang take care of this but, i don't know [01:26] Just going to download it now, thats the right thing to do [01:27] I think it works fine with bash stuff [01:27] Fish I think had issues [01:27] I think fish used different syntax on some things [01:28] Theres no harm done with zsh [01:29] Oh hows the transition with the .bashrc file also and all the aliases ? [01:30] Once you're setup just copy what you need out of .bashrc Indy .zshrc [01:30] Into* [01:30] Ok thanks [01:31] Zsh is super powerful but it's a lot to configure without oh my zsh [01:32] Just installed ohmyzsh i think i'll just playaround with it [01:33] I enjoy it but it may not be for everyone [01:35] Read up on it. There's a lot of cool features to test out [01:37] Well just installed and i could use same alias file, so thats a very good start, it also handles git folders ! but not bazaar folders sadly, maybe there is a plugin [01:38] I haven't used bazaar but yeah it works well with git [01:39] Expansion is nice though. /u/s/l tab will expand to /use/share/lib [01:42] definitely awesome ! [01:42] Thank you for that i'm gonna sleep have a good night or day depending [01:43] No problem. Goodnight [03:00] so now im getting "The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/." when i try to install kubuntu, any one heard of this? most of what i find online is a simple "make sure youre connected to the internet" which i am === para is now known as Guest71215 === cyborg is now known as Guest40989 === cyborg__ is now known as SyberSkater357 === Steffstoff is now known as Guest8882 [08:07] I'm running ubuntu server and cups was working great with shared printer to local network but not to outside world. Now all of a sudden I can no longer connect to cups and just get "unable to connect" error when i visit 192.168.0.100:631 which used to work? [08:07] Any help to fix this would be really appreciated. Thanks! [08:25] jonah: is cups running ??? [08:25] Smurphy: we've solved it in #ubuntu now :) [08:26] ok. [08:26] What was it ? [08:26] filters or cups ? [08:31] Smurphy: hi it is running, but just can't get the admin interface to connect [08:32] jonah: admin interface to what ? Check the cups config then... [08:33] Smurphy: http://pastebin.com/hd9Cj9z1 [08:35] What error message you get ? [08:36] and - do you have a local firewall running on your box ? [08:37] The config should be Ok. [08:37] looks OK. [08:38] I however have a difference in the admin UI configuration. I restrict access to the configuration file only, not the location. [08:39] Smurphy: when i do a cat of error_log I get http://pastebin.com/f4yN5pAF [08:49] cups seems to be running already. [08:49] make a: service cups stop [08:49] anbd check if you can access it. [08:51] Smurphy: thanks Smurphy it's back up! === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube [08:54] ok. [09:08] Hi! Installing 14.04 from USB. Need dual boot windows from /dev/sda1. Graphical installer fails to detect free space on /dev/sda. Please advise! urgent ;/ [09:09] /dev/sda has 3 partitions, /dev/sda1 being the NTFS, /dev/sda2 being swap and /dev/sda3 being ext4. The graphical installer only sees /dev/sda1 to fill the entire drive [09:10] `fdisk -l /dev/sda` identifies the partitions correctly and I can manage/mount them without trouble. I just need to install kubuntu. Can I do so from the command line of the installer CD? [09:13] Hmm... it appears that parted doesn't see the partitions ;/ [09:14] jotik: probably using GPT then [09:14] which parted does not support [09:14] hateball: probably because of old vrsion of parted in 14.04? [09:15] hateball: Any idea about how I could continue the installation process from the command line after manually setting up the partitions? [09:16] On 14.04 parted (GNU parted) 2.3 reads GPT fine [09:16] hmmm [09:16] jotik: maybe there's a hybrid MBR too confusing the tools [09:17] I seem to carry old misinformation [09:17] hateball: always helps to have a handy chroot env to check with :D [09:17] :) [09:17] jotik: there is the the minimal installer you could use otherwise [09:18] jotik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [09:18] creating additional install media is not an option ;( [09:18] It doesnt support UEFI tho, if you need that [09:18] I see [09:18] I need to install kubuntu from the regular installer image, but from the command line, I suppose. [09:19] no UEFI [09:19] parted really should have an option to try the specific disk label the user wants [09:19] I can just mkswap/mkfs.ext4... but then? [09:19] jotik: can you pastebin from the Live/installer ? [09:20] no network drivers ;/ [09:20] TJ-: what do you need? [09:20] jotik: I was hoping to get you to install gdisk/fdisk and compare the outputs :) I suspect there's a mismatch with a GPT and MBR hybrid [09:21] jotik: which could bite you in other ways [09:21] TJ-: gdisk: found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format in memory... .and after that it shows the partitions correctly [09:22] Warning! Secondary partition talbe overlaps the last partition by 33 blocks! You will need to delete this partition or resize it in another utility. [09:22] I wonder if I can just delete the GPT then? [09:22] Haha! [09:23] Now hang on how the heck did the secondary get into that state? [09:23] how has this disk been partitioned in the past? what tooling? [09:23] Sounds like an original GPT install, then an MBR-only tool used on it [09:24] I probably tried everything in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions which didn't work properly, then booted to sysrescuecd and did ntfsresize [09:24] hateball: parted supports GPT from memory. Was then first partitioner to actually support if if my memory serves me well. [09:25] ok, overwrote the GPT from gdisk... [09:25] whohoo! Graphical instlaler sees free space. thnx [09:26] That is something else ;) [09:28] jotik: correct the size of the last partition, and make sure what is in it won't get damaged before you do so [09:29] TJ-: I deleted the partition. I left only the /dev/sda1, then used the graphical installer to create a swap and / there. [09:29] jotik: oh, that's the easy solution then :D [09:30] yes, I needed a fast solution after resizing NTFS left windows unbootable (0xc000000e winload.exe not found) [09:31] and the windows recovery DVD wouldn't boot either ;/ [09:55] Good morning. [10:00] hi [10:38] Dannnggg.. [10:39] All my 3 kubuntus are inaccessible [10:39] Gui broken or so [10:39] I can root shell though [10:40] You upgraded to 15.10 ? [10:40] But you need to give us more info if you want some help. [10:40] Getting an empty usb stick in a few hours. Mom is bringing one e [10:40] ... Over [10:42] Smurphy: is ait. I get stick. I dd the kubuntu.iso. Boot off that and sudo mount /home [10:43] Look at fixing it more deeply when i get home [10:45] The updates notification doesn't go away or change after I complete doing the updates [10:45] do you guys have that too? [10:45] it only realizes that the system is up to date after I restart [10:46] Eluus: Sadly Muon is not without its faults [10:46] hateball: so this is a known bug then? [10:47] Eluus: I am guessing so, at least it happens to me [10:47] But I just kill the GUI updater and run apt-get manually [10:47] So I havent bothered checking more [10:47] I do apt-get manualy too [10:47] I should kill it [10:48] by killing do you mean telling it not to check for updates right? [10:49] guess not [10:50] because it pops up after apt-get [10:50] how do you kill it? [10:53] jubo2: What is the actual problem? [11:01] I need [11:01] Just installed Kubuntu 15.10 and not able to download any services for my Dolphin [11:02] I need compress and extract here [11:09] hi guys, my desktop hasn't any dashboard, what's the problem? [11:09] in 15.10, kde5.4 === para is now known as Guest77622 [11:41] Hiyas all [11:41] hi BluesKaj [11:42] hey clivejo [11:44] Hey BluesKaj [11:44] hey lordievader [11:50] hey all [11:50] I was wondering [11:51] now that I have both of you ( BluesKaj and lordievader), perhaps you can help me figure this problem out why I can't seem to mount my backup drive. [11:51] Roey: Does it give errors? [11:52] not that I see any [11:52] and none in dmesg or /var/log/syslog [11:52] usb drive? [11:52] right [11:52] monkeyjuice: yes [11:52] do you have an entry in fstab for it? [11:52] ys I do [11:52] on /dev/sdc [11:52] Roey: So you can mount it? [11:53] $ sudo mount /dev/sdc /backup [11:53] mount: special device /dev/sdc does not exist [11:53] ack [11:53] Ah. That is an error. [11:53] sdc doesn't exist. Should it? [11:53] you have to give it a name afyer the uuid like /media/yourusername or some such [11:54] in fstab [11:54] http://pastebin.com/02ZSV1yi [11:54] ok, now it is in sdb hten.. I am trying to mount it, one moment [11:55] BluesKaj: yeah I know [11:55] Roey: I see an sdb? No sdc... [11:55] oh. Now I see it. [11:55] blah [11:55] why the heck did it switch letters [11:56] anyway so thanks!! [11:56] next issue: I don't see my tablet in the KDE settings [11:56] my Wacom tablet [11:56] Roey: Because those letters aren't fixed, that is why BluesKaj suggested to use uuid's. Those are fixed. [11:57] ok. [11:57] How do I get a device's UUID? [11:57] use sudo blkid to find the UUID first thjen copy the string without the quotes, you don't need /dev/sdc in the fstab entry, the UUID worlks just fine [11:58] thanks [12:06] Just installed Kubuntu 15.10 and not able to download any services for my Dolphin. I need compress and extract here. Any assistance will be highly appreciated [12:06] monkeyjuice, lordievader, BluesKaj: so now with this Wacom tablet, I don't see the settings panel for it [12:06] in systemsettings56 [12:07] in systemsettings5 * [12:08] mumo, make sure you have ark installed [12:10] Now in root shell.. Kubuntu is apparently thinking the external display that is not here is the primary [12:12] The symptoms are that the screen goes dark after the loading that happens after the login [12:13] mumo, in the dolphin services download look for file -roller [12:17] BluesKaj: I switched to my other backup drive to sync to it, too, now that the other one is synced. I get this error: http://pastebin.com/swNcHyRd [12:18] lordievader: ^ [12:21] Roey, have you rebooted ? [12:22] Roey: That is systemd generating service files from your fstab. [12:22] And since sdc doesn't exist he cannout mount or unmount it. [12:24] it should auto-mount via UUID at boot === para is now known as Guest93572 [12:49] Hello, is there someone expert on usb installation of kubuntu? [12:50] that seems really specific but maybe you can state the issue you're having [12:53] i have an usb key "datatraveler 4g", i downloaded kubuntu last ISO file and i made it bootable in the usb key with unetbootin (but doens't work, so i tried also with universal usb isntaller) [12:54] lmfaq: "it doesn't worl [12:54] work*" could you be more specific? [12:54] i made it bootable on a win 7 computer, and it doesn't boot in this pc with linux [12:55] did you adjust your BIOS boot order to prioritize usb over hdd? [12:55] yes, it start to boot from usb [12:55] so you get the netbootin menu after booting? [12:57] mh no, it just says something about the copyright, if i use unetbootin it's something like 20xx - 2013 [12:57] if i use universal usb installer the copyright date is different, 20xx - 2010 [12:57] under that i have this symbol " _ " [12:57] and nothing happen [12:57] i can only ctrl+alt+canc [12:58] verify that you are booting from a USB2 port and not a USB3 port [12:58] this pc is an old aspire one, so bios features sucks a bit, it only has usb2 by the way [12:59] and i'm actually running bodhi linux here [12:59] and now i'm trying to format they usbkey with an hp tool on the windows pc [13:00] maybe the problem is that this usb key is usb 3.0? [13:01] if you have a linux system available, try using dd to create the image on your usb stick. sudo dd if=Downloads/kubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdX [13:03] i just checked, dd is used to clone a disk, but not to make it bootable, so i think is the same if i open the iso and i copy files into the usb key [13:03] or maybe i'm totaly wrong lol [13:03] you also need to be sure that your Aspire has a 64 bit cpu if you are using the 64 bit image [13:03] if it has the Intel Atom cpu, that's 32 bit [13:04] yes no prob i'll change it with i386 [13:04] lmfaq: dd is a bit copy tool, if the image is bootable the thing dd copies is too. The iso is bootable ;) [13:04] Oha. Just removed a USB cable from my mac mini, and it locked hard the OS .... [13:05] lordievader, i'm not expert but i think CD/DVD boot is different from USB [13:05] lmfaq: The dd method works though... [13:06] dd is the recommended method for command line [13:06] ok then, i'm going to try, thanks a lot squash and lordievader [13:07] just a last curiosity, what "of=/dev/sdX" is used for? [13:08] change /dev/sdX to /dev/[whatever device your usb stick is] [13:08] use 'dmesg' to see what it got assigned, it will be at the bottom once you plug it in [13:10] great, thanks again, really useful for me [13:21] Ah dang it, the issue that brought me here has returned. kolourpaint renders incorrectly. [13:30] and now all my dialogs are broken again [13:36] this time I'll do some diagnostics though. back in a bit. [13:41] logging out and back in solved it, so now I'm mad. [13:47] Hi, is there any way to add a panel without crashing plasma? [13:50] ejay,other than the default panel? [13:50] hey - can anyone recommend a good emulation news site for Linux (i.e mame/c64/amiga emulation) ? [13:50] I used to use http://linuxemu.retrofaction.com/ but thats been long dead [13:51] BluesKaj: yes [13:52] ejay, dunno, never tried , the default is enough for my needs [13:52] BluesKaj: oh, ofc [13:54] ejay, are you a former ubuntu user who wants a panel at the top of the screen, if so afaik you just need to drag it [13:56] BluesKaj: no, I'm a former kubuntu user that wants to add panel to his secondary screen but adding another panel is just too much for plasma it seems. Why there is a option to add another panel if it will crash plasma? [13:57] BluesKaj: oh, and good luck with draging any panel anywhere. [13:58] * lordievader is able to create a new panel and drag it to any screen without troubles [13:59] ejay, really? then plasma5 has dropped more features then I thought ... not surprised, plasma is a regression IMO [13:59] than [14:00]