[00:00] <kubuntuuser> you saved me
[00:00] <kubuntuuser> i only had to symlink the driver into the right directory
[00:01] <kwaadpepper> lol
[00:01] <kwaadpepper> nive
[00:01] <kwaadpepper> nice, also fglrx-installer is patched now Drybones
[00:01] <kwaadpepper> just looking at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/wily-changes/2015-October/012298.html
[00:02] <kwaadpepper> kubuntuuser: so you can now boot properly ?
[00:03] <kubuntuuser> no, but at least i have a desktop :)
[00:03] <kwaadpepper> yay thats a start
[00:04] <kubuntuuser> only as root
[00:05] <kwaadpepper> on rescue mode you could try to update fglrx-installer or reinstall
[00:05] <kwaadpepper> i also read the bug was afecting 4.2 kernel
[00:05] <kwaadpepper> workaround was to use 4.1
[00:05] <kwaadpepper> that you could try
[00:06] <kwaadpepper> thanks to Drybones for the linl :p
[00:06] <thenerdjones> well when i tried to set it up the way i think it should be set up.... / on sda, device for grub boot loader on /dev/sda, it says it cant update grub...
[00:08] <kwaadpepper> thenerdjones: why not letting the default stuff and just give it a try ?
[00:09] <thenerdjones> well when i try with the default settings...Partition(s) 1, 2, 3, 5 on /dev/sdb have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change, probably because it/they are in use. As a result, the old partition(s) will remain in use. You should reboot now before making further changes.
[00:10] <thenerdjones> im going to reboot the computer back into live mode and try again, i think i have been playing with too many things
[00:10] <thenerdjones> ill brb
[00:11] <drleviathan> whew!  I was considering trying to install kubunto on an intel+ATI video-chipsetted laptop... mostly because the Windows system can't even seem to use the ATI card
[00:11] <drleviathan> however now I see that it is a bad idea.
[00:12] <SomeGuy2> Thinkpad?
[00:12] <drleviathan> it occurs to me now... buying this Dell 7548 Inspiron with intel+ATI was a bad idea.
[00:13] <SomeGuy2> Windows actually seems to do a decent job automatically installing drivers for ATI cards, worked on my TP when I installed windows 8, and that card wasn't even supported by ATI
[00:14] <kwaadpepper> Optimus laptops are worse under linux
[00:15] <kwaadpepper> just managed to use nvidia-prime and bumblebee together, but ati users are i think pretty ok on linux
[00:15] <kwaadpepper> This is a just a release bug
[00:15] <kwaadpepper> it is corrected according  this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1493888
[00:16] <drleviathan> Dell happily informs me that the ATI driver is completely up to date.  However the ATI Catalyst application (or whatever) says it cannot access the ATI card.  Also, although I have manually specified certain applications to use the ATI card none of them successfully do, they all try to use the embedded intel chipset.
[00:16] <SomeGuy2> Can you switch them in the BIOS?
[00:17] <drleviathan> hrm... maybe.  I'll have to try it.
[00:17] <SomeGuy2> Lenovo has that option, not sure about Dell though
[00:20] <gtozzi> kwaadpepper: i'm kubuntuuser... i've manager to start my desktop :D
[00:20] <kwaadpepper> yay
[00:20] <gtozzi> for some reason i was still running lightdm, i've replaced it with sddm and it started
[00:20] <kwaadpepper> ok lol this is madness
[00:20] <gtozzi> now almost everything runs fine as long as i start with "nosplash"
[00:20] <kwaadpepper> how could that happen
[00:21] <gtozzi> if i start with "splash", it freezes on splash screen
[00:21] <kwaadpepper> so your using mesa right now ?
[00:21] <SomeGuy2> I had that happen too
[00:22] <gtozzi> yep, i'm using the intel driver
[00:22] <SomeGuy2> Doesn't seem to be a problem with the FOSS nvidia drivers, but if you install the propietary ones without adding nosplash then kubuntu throws a shitfit and refuses to boot
[00:22] <gtozzi> the new plasma looks very nice
[00:22] <drleviathan> how does one select "nosplash"?  my manually editing a particular config file?  or some other method?
[00:22] <SomeGuy2> you have to add to the grub config and update grub
[00:22] <kwaadpepper> pressing e in grub
[00:22] <gtozzi> SomeGuy2: it doesn't really throw... it just freezes on the "kubuntu" screen
[00:23] <kwaadpepper> was is shown if you press f12 ?
[00:23] <kwaadpepper> it hides splash
[00:25] <kwaadpepper> gtozzi: have you tried to update flgrx drivers and using them ?
[00:26] <gtozzi> <kwaadpepper: yep, but when i start X using fglrx, it just freezes on a black screen
[00:26] <gtozzi> if intel ones will keep working, they'll ben fine
[00:26] <gtozzi> they should be less battery-draining
[00:27] <kwaadpepper> oh what a shame
[00:27] <gtozzi> and i don't really need "special effects" :D
[00:27] <kwaadpepper> it should be working though
[00:27] <kwaadpepper> also i saw , there is no equivalent of bumblebee with intel/ati hybrid system right ?
[00:28] <kwaadpepper> bumblebee allows system to run using intel and run specific programs using optirun command
[00:28] <kwaadpepper> run promgrams using nvidia card
[00:28] <gtozzi> uhm... never heard of anything like that
[00:29] <kwaadpepper> hum ok
[00:29] <gtozzi> i've always used the intel driver only
[00:29] <kwaadpepper> just in case you missed it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1493888
[00:30] <kwaadpepper> it gives advices so you could manage to use your ati card :p
[00:30] <gtozzi> well, last distros have been a disaster about stability
[00:30] <gtozzi> i now see the new interface is very nice and complete
[00:30] <gtozzi> hoping they'll focus on fixing bugs :)
[00:31] <kwaadpepper> I really think it is the opposite from desktop point of view
[00:31] <kwaadpepper> it is just driver/kernels issue
[00:31] <kwaadpepper> annoying nonetheless
[00:31] <kwaadpepper> in my case default install bootup using nouveau wich make CP
[00:32] <kwaadpepper> U stuck and crash lol
[00:32] <kwaadpepper> CPU*
[00:32] <gtozzi> i had bad experiences with nouveau too
[00:32] <gtozzi> does any good video card for linux really exists?
[00:33] <kwaadpepper> older video cars you mean ?
[00:33] <SomeGuy2> basically just pray to stallman that the FOSS AMD drivers improve
[00:33] <kwaadpepper> Yeah stall should bring gnu drivers
[00:34] <thenerdjones> now i get An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD failed. when i try to install
[00:34] <gtozzi> kwaadpepper: i mean ANY video card :D
[00:34] <gtozzi> SomeGuy2: lol
[00:35] <kwaadpepper> gtozzi: Well i have to say that in my case i have a GT70, and with drivers installd it just work better than any windows stuff !
[00:35] <kwaadpepper> just love playing games on linux
[00:36] <gtozzi> nvidia then
[00:37] <kwaadpepper> yes
[00:37] <kwaadpepper> And like i said bumblebee, is old but the hell it works
[00:37] <SomeGuy2> I still dual boot windows for most gaming, evewn with a 670 I still can't even max out CS:GO on Linux. Also no SLI support
[00:37] <kwaadpepper> not like nvidia-prime shit
[00:38] <kwaadpepper> I guess we just know why ths linux finger was for !
[00:39] <kwaadpepper> But with the steambox, it is gonna change
[00:39] <SomeGuy2> Sure it will
[00:39] <kwaadpepper> just look at www.gamingonlinux.com
[00:39] <kwaadpepper> Batman Drak knight announced : woooot !
[00:40] <gtozzi> luckily i only play very old 2d games
[00:40] <gtozzi> any video card can run them
[00:40] <gtozzi> (as long as it doesn't mess up with drivers)
[00:41] <kwaadpepper> speaking of that i've found Pol usefull too when trying to play Dawn of War 40k
[00:41] <kwaadpepper> even managed to make Payday2 work on it
[00:42] <SomeGuy2> Just in time for it become Pay-2-Play-Day2
[00:43] <kwaadpepper> Lol ,absolutely right, and they may need more money to port it to linux too, as it was delayed
[00:48] <thenerdjones> on this site: http://askubuntu.com/questions/78403/apt-configuration-problem-an-attempt-to-configure-apt-to-install-additional-pa i have always tried option 1, if i wanted to try option 2 i downloaded the iso. extracted filesystem.squashfs, but where do i put it on the live usb that im on now?
[00:50] <kwaadpepper> thenerdjones: on live cd form an usb key ?
[00:51] <kwaadpepper> thenerdjones: i really think you should check your materials, because your issue seem far complicated from what it should be, the installation process of ubuntu should be way easier with less issues
[00:52] <kwaadpepper> thenerdjones: if you want to try to install ubuntu form and usb key, use unetbootin
[00:52] <kwaadpepper> and format an usb key into FAT system
[00:53] <kwaadpepper> than use the downloaded iso to make the key bootable with kubuntu inside
[00:53] <thenerdjones> i already have the usb key, thats how im talking to you now
[00:53] <kwaadpepper> ok but the installation process fails right ?
[00:53] <kwaadpepper> does your usb key ahd any issues ?
[00:54] <thenerdjones> never has before
[00:54] <kwaadpepper> because really i never had problems like htat
[00:54] <kwaadpepper> Have you tried direct installation ?
[00:55] <kwaadpepper> without booting from live cd ?
[00:55] <kwaadpepper> i mean into desktop
[00:55] <thenerdjones> yes, i get the error saying it is trying to add sources from cd, this pc doesnt even have a cd drive
[00:55] <thenerdjones> the usb thinks its a cdrom
[00:55] <kwaadpepper> And you checked your hard drive ?
[00:56] <kwaadpepper> can you access it from the live cd ?
[00:56] <thenerdjones> i dont have a live cd, only usb, no cdrom on the computer
[00:56] <kwaadpepper> i mean mount partitions format using gparted ?
[00:56] <kwaadpepper> yeah but the livecd is the usb key in your case
[00:57] <kwaadpepper> is gparted working right now ? showing your disk format partition ?
[00:58] <kwaadpepper> Maybe your hardrive is dead or near to die
[00:58] <thenerdjones> its all brand new, gparted is not on this usb drive, but the kde partition manager is showing it
[00:59] <thenerdjones> i an pull it up in dolphin, and i have 2 hard drives in this pc, both give me the error for cd drive when i try to install to either one
[01:01] <kwaadpepper> well, did you check anything special on installation ?
[01:01] <kwaadpepper> You are connected to internet so for updates it should directly downloads them
[01:02] <kwaadpepper> what is exactly the error message ?
[01:03] <thenerdjones> the first one is this "An attempt to configure apt to install additional packages from the CD failed."
[01:03] <Matt526> Make a new live USB. Use dd to make it and not unetbootin
[01:03] <Matt526> Something likely went wrong making yours
[01:03] <kwaadpepper> http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=126351
[01:04] <kwaadpepper> just found a work around here
[01:04] <Matt526> Or do that. It sounds easier
[01:06] <Matt526> But the fact that a step like that is merged m
[01:06] <Matt526> Needed* makes me question the integrity of your usb
[01:07] <kwaadpepper> that was my first taught also
[01:08] <Matt526> That sounds like file corruption or something
[01:08] <Matt526> Did you do a checksum of your image before creating the drive?
[01:09] <kwaadpepper> An installation with corrupted files could be funny if succeed to boot è_é
[01:11] <Matt526> Unetbootin used to make a lot of drives for me that worked great until you tried to install from them
[01:11] <Matt526> So now I only use dd
[01:12] <kwaadpepper> Matt526: have you an eg to use dd ?
[01:13] <Matt526> eg?
[01:14] <kwaadpepper> https://fr.wiktionary.org/wiki/e.g.
[01:14] <kwaadpepper> example
[01:14] <Matt526> Oh like an example command?
[01:14] <Matt526> Sure
[01:14] <kwaadpepper> yeas i meant that
[01:15] <Matt526> Sudo dd if=something.iso  of=/dev/"your USB drive "
[01:16] <kwaadpepper> oh ok pretty easy though
[01:16] <kwaadpepper> Thanks for that
[01:16] <Matt526> Yes. Be very careful that you pick the right location for of
[01:17] <kwaadpepper> Sure it could be funny otherwise x)
[01:17] <Matt526> You can destroy hard drive data if you point it at your hard drive and not the usb
[01:17] <kwaadpepper> Also just found a program giving some eg
[01:17] <kwaadpepper> sudo pip install eg
[01:17] <kwaadpepper> usage: eg tar
[01:18] <Matt526> Awesome
[01:19] <Matt526> Sometimes man pages are useful for that
[01:19] <kwaadpepper> yeah definitely adding to awesome programs like thefuck https://github.com/nvbn/thefuck
[01:20] <kwaadpepper> man pages are sometimes just too big for a little usage we want, but agreed they are useful
[01:21] <Matt526> Yeah I've seen that one before but I don't use it
[01:22] <gtozzi> It's time to sleep
[01:22] <gtozzi> bye and thank you again :)
[01:22] <kwaadpepper> bye !
[01:22] <Matt526> Completion is so good with oh my zsh that I don't need spell correction
[01:23] <kwaadpepper> zhs is on my todo list with vim, cause i'm a nano guy sadly
[01:23] <kwaadpepper> it is true bash has its limitations with completions
[01:24] <Matt526> check out oh my zsh. It's basically just a config for for zsh but it makes for an awesome shell
[01:24] <kwaadpepper> But it seems to brake some native stuff is it ?
[01:25] <kwaadpepper> I'm not sure if it is safe to switch on it
[01:26] <kwaadpepper> I may be a idiot cause the shebang take care of this but, i don't know
[01:26] <kwaadpepper> Just going to download it now, thats the right thing to do
[01:27] <Matt526> I think it works fine with bash stuff
[01:27] <Matt526> Fish I think had issues
[01:27] <Matt526> I think fish used different syntax on some things
[01:28] <Matt526> Theres no harm done with zsh
[01:29] <kwaadpepper> Oh hows the transition with the .bashrc file also and all the aliases ?
[01:30] <Matt526> Once you're setup just copy what you need out of .bashrc Indy .zshrc
[01:30] <Matt526> Into*
[01:30] <kwaadpepper> Ok thanks
[01:31] <Matt526> Zsh is super powerful but it's a lot to configure without oh my zsh
[01:32] <kwaadpepper> Just installed ohmyzsh i think i'll just playaround with it
[01:33] <Matt526> I enjoy it but it may not be for everyone
[01:35] <Matt526> Read up on it. There's a lot of cool features to test out
[01:37] <kwaadpepper> Well just installed and i could use same alias file, so thats a very good start, it also handles git folders ! but not bazaar folders sadly, maybe there is a plugin
[01:38] <Matt526> I haven't used bazaar but yeah it works well with git
[01:39] <Matt526> Expansion is nice though. /u/s/l tab will expand to /use/share/lib
[01:42] <kwaadpepper> definitely awesome !
[01:42] <kwaadpepper> Thank you for that i'm gonna sleep have a good night or day depending
[01:43] <Matt526> No problem. Goodnight
[03:00] <thenerdjones> so now im getting "The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/." when i try to install kubuntu, any one heard of this? most of what i find online is a simple "make sure youre connected to the internet" which i am
[08:07] <jonah> I'm running ubuntu server and cups was working great with shared printer to local network but not to outside world. Now all of a sudden I can no longer connect to cups and just get "unable to connect" error when i visit 192.168.0.100:631 which used to work?
[08:07] <jonah> Any help to fix this would be really appreciated. Thanks!
[08:25] <Smurphy> jonah: is cups running ???
[08:25] <TJ-> Smurphy: we've solved it in #ubuntu now :)
[08:26] <Smurphy> ok.
[08:26] <Smurphy> What was it ?
[08:26] <Smurphy> filters or cups ?
[08:31] <jonah> Smurphy: hi it is running, but just can't get the admin interface to connect
[08:32] <Smurphy> jonah: admin interface to what ? Check the cups config then...
[08:33] <jonah> Smurphy: http://pastebin.com/hd9Cj9z1
[08:35] <Smurphy> What error message you get ?
[08:36] <Smurphy> and - do you have a local firewall running on your box ?
[08:37] <Smurphy> The config should be Ok.
[08:37] <Smurphy> looks OK.
[08:38] <Smurphy> I however have a difference in the admin UI configuration. I restrict access to the configuration file only, not the location.
[08:39] <jonah> Smurphy: when i do a cat of error_log I get http://pastebin.com/f4yN5pAF
[08:49] <Smurphy> cups seems to be running already.
[08:49] <Smurphy> make a: service cups stop
[08:49] <Smurphy> anbd check if you can access it.
[08:51] <jonah> Smurphy: thanks Smurphy it's back up!
[08:54] <Smurphy> ok.
[09:08] <jotik> Hi! Installing 14.04 from USB. Need dual boot windows from /dev/sda1. Graphical installer fails to detect free space on /dev/sda. Please advise! urgent ;/
[09:09] <jotik> /dev/sda has 3 partitions, /dev/sda1 being the NTFS, /dev/sda2 being swap and /dev/sda3 being ext4. The graphical installer only sees /dev/sda1 to fill the entire drive
[09:10] <jotik> `fdisk -l /dev/sda` identifies the partitions correctly and I can manage/mount them without trouble. I just need to install kubuntu. Can I do so from the command line of the installer CD?
[09:13] <jotik> Hmm... it appears that parted doesn't see the partitions ;/
[09:14] <hateball> jotik: probably using GPT then
[09:14] <hateball> which parted does not support
[09:14] <jotik> hateball: probably because of old vrsion of parted in 14.04?
[09:15] <jotik> hateball: Any idea about how I could continue the installation process from the command line after manually setting up the partitions?
[09:16] <TJ-> On 14.04 parted (GNU parted) 2.3 reads GPT fine
[09:16] <hateball> hmmm
[09:16] <TJ-> jotik: maybe there's a hybrid MBR too confusing the tools
[09:17] <hateball> I seem to carry old misinformation
[09:17] <TJ-> hateball: always helps to have a handy chroot env to check with :D
[09:17] <hateball> :)
[09:17] <hateball> jotik: there is the the minimal installer you could use otherwise
[09:18] <hateball> jotik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[09:18] <jotik> creating additional install media is not an option ;(
[09:18] <hateball> It doesnt support UEFI tho, if you need that
[09:18] <hateball> I see
[09:18] <jotik> I need to install kubuntu from the regular installer image, but from the command line, I suppose.
[09:19] <jotik> no UEFI
[09:19] <TJ-> parted really should have an option to try the specific disk label the user wants
[09:19] <jotik> I can just mkswap/mkfs.ext4... but then?
[09:19] <TJ-> jotik: can you pastebin from the Live/installer ?
[09:20] <jotik> no network drivers ;/
[09:20] <jotik> TJ-: what do you need?
[09:20] <TJ-> jotik: I was hoping to get you to install gdisk/fdisk and compare the outputs :) I suspect there's a mismatch with a GPT and MBR hybrid
[09:21] <TJ-> jotik: which could bite you in other ways
[09:21] <jotik> TJ-: gdisk: found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format in memory... .and after that it shows the partitions correctly
[09:22] <jotik> Warning! Secondary partition talbe overlaps the last partition by 33 blocks! You will need to delete this partition or resize it in another utility.
[09:22] <jotik> I wonder if I can just delete the GPT then?
[09:22] <TJ-> Haha!
[09:23] <TJ-> Now hang on how the heck did the secondary get into that state?
[09:23] <TJ-> how has this disk been partitioned in the past? what tooling?
[09:23] <TJ-> Sounds like an original GPT install, then an MBR-only tool used on it
[09:24] <jotik> I probably tried everything in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions which didn't work properly, then booted to sysrescuecd and did ntfsresize
[09:24] <Smurphy> hateball: parted supports GPT from memory. Was then first partitioner to actually support if if my memory serves me well.
[09:25] <jotik> ok, overwrote the GPT from gdisk...
[09:25] <jotik> whohoo! Graphical instlaler sees free space. thnx
[09:26] <Smurphy> That is something else ;)
[09:28] <TJ-> jotik: correct the size of the last partition, and make sure what is in it won't get damaged before you do so
[09:29] <jotik> TJ-: I deleted the partition. I left only the /dev/sda1, then used the graphical installer to create a swap and / there.
[09:29] <TJ-> jotik: oh, that's the easy solution then :D
[09:30] <jotik> yes, I needed a fast solution after resizing NTFS left windows unbootable (0xc000000e winload.exe not found)
[09:31] <jotik> and the windows recovery DVD wouldn't boot either ;/
[09:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:00] <ucet> hi
[10:38] <jubo2> Dannnggg..
[10:39] <jubo2> All my 3 kubuntus are inaccessible
[10:39] <jubo2> Gui broken or so
[10:39] <jubo2> I can root shell though
[10:40] <Smurphy> You upgraded to 15.10 ?
[10:40] <Smurphy> But you need to give us more info if you want some help.
[10:40] <jubo2> Getting an empty usb stick in a few hours. Mom is bringing one e
[10:40] <jubo2> ... Over
[10:42] <jubo2> Smurphy: is ait. I get stick. I dd the kubuntu.iso. Boot off that and sudo mount /home
[10:43] <jubo2> Look at fixing it more deeply when i get home
[10:45] <Eluus> The updates notification doesn't go away or change after I complete doing the updates
[10:45] <Eluus> do you guys have that too?
[10:45] <Eluus> it only realizes that the system is up to date after I restart
[10:46] <hateball> Eluus: Sadly Muon is not without its faults
[10:46] <Eluus> hateball: so this is a known bug then?
[10:47] <hateball> Eluus: I am guessing so, at least it happens to me
[10:47] <hateball> But I just kill the GUI updater and run apt-get manually
[10:47] <hateball> So I havent bothered checking more
[10:47] <Eluus> I do apt-get manualy too
[10:47] <Eluus> I should kill it
[10:48] <Eluus> by killing do you mean telling it not to check for updates right?
[10:49] <Eluus> guess not
[10:50] <Eluus> because it pops up after apt-get
[10:50] <Eluus> how do you kill it?
[10:53] <lordievader> jubo2: What is the actual problem?
[11:01] <mumo> I need
[11:01] <mumo> Just installed Kubuntu 15.10 and not able to download any services for my Dolphin
[11:02] <mumo> I need compress and extract here
[11:09] <blahblah15> hi guys, my desktop hasn't any dashboard, what's the problem?
[11:09] <blahblah15> in 15.10, kde5.4
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:41] <clivejo> hi BluesKaj
[11:42] <BluesKaj> hey clivejo
[11:44] <lordievader> Hey BluesKaj
[11:44] <BluesKaj> hey lordievader
[11:50] <Roey> hey all
[11:50] <Roey> I was wondering
[11:51] <Roey> now that I have both of you ( BluesKaj and lordievader), perhaps you can help me figure this problem out why I can't seem to mount my backup drive.
[11:51] <lordievader> Roey: Does it give errors?
[11:52] <Roey> not that I see any
[11:52] <Roey> and none in dmesg or /var/log/syslog
[11:52] <monkeyjuice> usb drive?
[11:52] <Roey> right
[11:52] <Roey> monkeyjuice:  yes
[11:52] <BluesKaj> do you have an entry in fstab for it?
[11:52] <Roey> ys I do
[11:52] <Roey> on /dev/sdc
[11:52] <lordievader> Roey: So you can mount it?
[11:53] <Roey> $ sudo mount /dev/sdc /backup
[11:53] <Roey> mount: special device /dev/sdc does not exist
[11:53] <Roey> ack
[11:53] <lordievader> Ah. That is an error.
[11:53] <lordievader> sdc doesn't exist. Should it?
[11:53] <BluesKaj> you have to give it a name afyer the uuid like /media/yourusername or some such
[11:54] <BluesKaj> in fstab
[11:54] <Roey> http://pastebin.com/02ZSV1yi
[11:54] <Roey> ok, now it is in sdb hten.. I am trying to mount it, one moment
[11:55] <Roey> BluesKaj:  yeah I know
[11:55] <lordievader> Roey: I see an sdb? No sdc...
[11:55] <Roey> oh.  Now I see it.
[11:55] <Roey> blah
[11:55] <Roey> why the heck did it switch letters
[11:56] <Roey> anyway so thanks!!
[11:56] <Roey> next issue:  I don't see my tablet in the KDE settings
[11:56] <Roey> my Wacom tablet
[11:56] <lordievader> Roey: Because those letters aren't fixed, that is why BluesKaj suggested to use uuid's. Those are fixed.
[11:57] <Roey> ok.
[11:57] <Roey> How do I get a device's UUID?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> use sudo blkid to find the UUID first thjen copy the string without the quotes, you don't need /dev/sdc in the fstab entry, the UUID worlks just fine
[11:58] <Roey> thanks
[12:06] <mumo> Just installed Kubuntu 15.10 and not able to download any services for my Dolphin. I need compress and extract here. Any assistance will be highly appreciated
[12:06] <Roey> monkeyjuice, lordievader, BluesKaj: so now with this Wacom tablet, I don't see the settings panel for it
[12:06] <Roey> in systemsettings56
[12:07] <Roey> in systemsettings5 *
[12:08] <BluesKaj> mumo, make sure you have ark installed
[12:10] <jubo2> Now in root shell.. Kubuntu is apparently thinking the external display that is not here is the primary
[12:12] <jubo2> The symptoms are that the screen goes dark after the loading that happens after the login
[12:13] <BluesKaj> mumo, in the dolphin services download look for file -roller
[12:17] <Roey> BluesKaj:  I switched to my other backup drive to sync to it, too, now that the other one is synced.  I get this error:  http://pastebin.com/swNcHyRd
[12:18] <Roey> lordievader:  ^
[12:21] <BluesKaj> Roey, have you rebooted ?
[12:22] <lordievader> Roey: That is systemd generating service files from your fstab.
[12:22] <lordievader> And since sdc doesn't exist he cannout mount or unmount it.
[12:24] <BluesKaj> it should auto-mount via UUID  at boot
[12:49] <lmfaq> Hello, is there someone expert on usb installation of kubuntu?
[12:50] <squash> that seems really specific but maybe you can state the issue you're having
[12:53] <lmfaq> i have an usb key "datatraveler 4g", i downloaded kubuntu last ISO file and i made it bootable in the usb key with unetbootin (but doens't work, so i tried also with universal usb isntaller)
[12:54] <lordievader> lmfaq: "it doesn't worl
[12:54] <lordievader> work*" could you be more specific?
[12:54] <lmfaq> i made it bootable on a win 7 computer, and it doesn't boot in this pc with linux
[12:55] <squash> did you adjust your BIOS boot order to prioritize usb over hdd?
[12:55] <lmfaq> yes, it start to boot from usb
[12:55] <squash> so you get the netbootin menu after booting?
[12:57] <lmfaq> mh no, it just says something about the copyright, if i use unetbootin it's something like 20xx - 2013
[12:57] <lmfaq> if i use universal usb installer the copyright date is different, 20xx - 2010
[12:57] <lmfaq> under that i have this symbol " _ "
[12:57] <lmfaq> and nothing happen
[12:57] <lmfaq> i can only ctrl+alt+canc
[12:58] <squash> verify that you are booting from a USB2 port and not a USB3 port
[12:58] <lmfaq> this pc is an old aspire one, so bios features sucks a bit, it only has usb2 by the way
[12:59] <lmfaq> and i'm actually running bodhi linux here
[12:59] <lmfaq> and now i'm trying to format they usbkey with an hp tool on the windows pc
[13:00] <lmfaq> maybe the problem is that this usb key is usb 3.0?
[13:01] <squash> if you have a linux system available, try using dd to create the image on your usb stick. sudo dd if=Downloads/kubuntu-15.04-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdX
[13:03] <lmfaq> i just checked, dd is used to clone a disk, but not to make it bootable, so i think is the same if i open the iso and i copy files into the usb key
[13:03] <lmfaq> or maybe i'm totaly wrong lol
[13:03] <squash> you also need to be sure that your Aspire has a 64 bit cpu if you are using the 64 bit image
[13:03] <squash> if it has the Intel Atom cpu, that's 32 bit
[13:04] <lmfaq> yes no prob i'll change it with i386
[13:04] <lordievader> lmfaq: dd is a bit copy tool, if the image is bootable the thing dd copies is too. The iso is bootable ;)
[13:04] <Smurphy> Oha. Just removed a USB cable from my mac mini, and it locked hard the OS ....
[13:05] <lmfaq> lordievader, i'm not expert but i think CD/DVD boot is different from USB
[13:05] <lordievader> lmfaq: The dd method works though...
[13:06] <squash> dd is the recommended method for command line
[13:06] <lmfaq> ok then, i'm going to try, thanks a lot squash and lordievader
[13:07] <lmfaq> just a last curiosity, what "of=/dev/sdX" is used for?
[13:08] <squash> change /dev/sdX to /dev/[whatever device your usb stick is]
[13:08] <squash> use 'dmesg' to see what it got assigned, it will be at the bottom once you plug it in
[13:10] <lmfaq> great, thanks again, really useful for me
[13:21] <squash> Ah dang it, the issue that brought me here has returned. kolourpaint renders incorrectly.
[13:30] <squash> and now all my dialogs are broken again
[13:36] <squash> this time I'll do some diagnostics though. back in a bit.
[13:41] <squash> logging out and back in solved it, so now I'm mad.
[13:47] <ejay> Hi, is there any way to add a panel without crashing plasma?
[13:50] <BluesKaj> ejay,other than the default panel?
[13:50] <yossarianuk>  hey - can anyone recommend a good emulation news site for Linux (i.e mame/c64/amiga emulation) ?
[13:50] <yossarianuk> I used to use http://linuxemu.retrofaction.com/ but thats been long dead
[13:51] <ejay> BluesKaj: yes
[13:52] <BluesKaj> ejay, dunno, never tried , the default is enough for my needs
[13:52] <ejay> BluesKaj: oh, ofc
[13:54] <BluesKaj> ejay, are you a former ubuntu user who wants a panel at the top of the screen, if so afaik you just need to drag it
[13:56] <ejay> BluesKaj: no, I'm a former kubuntu user that wants to add panel to his secondary screen but adding another panel is just too much for plasma it seems. Why there is a option to add another panel if it will crash plasma?
[13:57] <ejay> BluesKaj: oh, and good luck with draging any panel anywhere.
[13:58]  * lordievader is able to create a new panel and drag it to any screen without troubles
[13:59] <BluesKaj> ejay, really? then plasma5 has dropped more features then I thought ... not surprised, plasma is a regression IMO
[13:59] <BluesKaj> than
[14:00] <BluesKaj> thank the stars I just need one large monitor
[14:02] <ejay> lordievader: well, I guess that with plasma you need more luck then ideas
[14:02] <marco-parillo> OK, I did get a plasma5 crash when I added a new default panel, but it seems to have been created and is now at the top
[14:03] <lordievader> ejay: Running 5.4.2 here on Gentoo, perhaps that has something to do with it.
[14:03] <lordievader> ejay: Anyhow, report a bug ;)
[14:03] <lordievader> !bugs
[14:04] <ejay> lordievader: I'm done with reporting bugs. I could spend whole day with bug tracker. I need to work to pay my internet bills so I can insult incompetent kde devs.
[14:05] <BluesKaj> ejay, mosy bugs are dupes by now anyway
[14:05] <BluesKaj> most
[14:05] <marco-parillo> Funny, then I deleted my normal (bottom) panel, and then adding a new panel did not crash Plasma.
[14:05] <squash> that's because of a drkonqi bug that won't let you report a bug as being related
[14:07] <squash> my problem with kde bug reporting in a nutshell: http://i.imgur.com/Z7Zlvue.jpg
[14:07] <ejay> squash: future is now
[14:08] <BluesKaj> aq I reported a bug last week that had previously been reported , so mine was dupe, but there was no indication that it was a dupe when I reported it.
[14:08] <BluesKaj> squash,^
[14:10] <BluesKaj> reporting bugs has largely become a waste of time on any OS that has aleady been released IME
[14:18] <Smurphy> ack ...
[14:56] <yossarianuk> BluesKaj: surely not true... sometimes you may find a bug that also effects older versions too...
[14:56] <alvin> squash: Heh, I tried ubuntu-bug, but it crashed too
[14:56] <yossarianuk> alvin: that's fairly bad.....
[14:57] <alvin> Yep. Segfaulted. Can't reproduce, because the IMAP bug (can't delete mails) is too bad and I'm in the process of restoring a previous version.
[14:58] <alvin> I've notified the Kontact people, and there is some kind of KDE bug report, so it'll probably get fixed.
[14:59] <yossarianuk> you could just report a bug manually )i.e at launchpad,etc)
[15:00] <alvin> Yes, and it's a KDE bug. Although I don't know of any other distro's that have the same version of Kmail we have. Weird that this wasn't seen in testing. It's a pretty grave error.
[15:01] <alvin> Kubuntu users have been posting here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=316153
[15:01] <alvin> What happens is that your mail is moved to the trash, and suddenly you have 2 mails that can't be deleted. The original (in Inbox) and the copy in Trash.
[15:02] <rishabh_> hello , i am facing a strange problem on my system .if i dont use my machine for sometime ,  a blackscreen comes up from where i cant get back to the desktop .the only to get back to desktop is to send the shutdown signal but in doing this internet goes off  so ultimately i have to reset my machine .i am using kubuntu 15.04 on virtaul machine
[15:03] <rishabh_> the only way*
[15:04] <rishabh_> can anyone help me out with this ?
[15:05] <squash> if it's a virtual machine, try disabling the screensaver/display power management
[15:12] <rishabh_> squash: alright thanks  i will try that
[15:24] <Doyle> Hey. The DNS entries specified in the connection editor aren't being populated in resolv.conf. Is this a known issue? Fresh install.
[15:26] <jubo2> Hi.. I'm on Kubuntu15.10 live version to fix my installation of 15.10
[15:27] <jubo2> Something wrong in the display settings causing a blank or black screen right after the loader bar after login finishes
[15:27] <jubo2> Something to do with the docking station. This was docked when I installed this
[15:29] <jubo2> I am guessing it thinks of the external display as the primary one and turns the internal off mistakenly coz it thinkgs
[15:30] <jubo2> it thinking something mistakenly..
[15:30] <Doyle> Found it. Disable dnsmasq...
[15:30] <jubo2> where are the confs for the displays?
[15:31] <jubo2> I go sudo mount the system containing the congigs
[15:32] <Doyle> It might just be me, but if there's a configuration field, it should probably work without having to edit sys files. Regular users won't be able to figure this out.
[15:33] <jubo2> ait.. now in the old  ~ directory
[15:46] <lmfaq> rieccomi qua, facendo il DD if=/isokubuntu of=usbkey non mi risulta una chiavetta bootable
[15:46] <lmfaq> dd minuscolo
[15:48] <lmfaq> provando da winzoz con universalusbinstaller o netbootin comincia a fare il boot dall'usb, però si ferma alla presentazione del copyright
[15:48] <lmfaq> non parte nemmeno l'interfatta di netbootin
[15:49] <lmfaq> oh! sorry wrong language!
[15:50] <lmfaq> i'm trying to make a bootable kubuntu usb key
[15:51] <lmfaq> i tryied with dd command if=kubuntu.iso of=usbkey but it doesn't even try to boot
[15:52] <lmfaq> i tried with uui and netbootin from a windows pc, but it start saying something about the copiright leaving a " _ " some lines under it
[15:52] <lmfaq> someone have some ideas to solve this?
[15:53] <Smurphy> lmfaq: dd if=kubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1m should do it. You need to identify the right device though.
[15:53] <lmfaq> i didnt use bs=xxx, is possible that it's the issue?
[15:54] <Smurphy> yes...
[15:54] <Smurphy> You need to write it to the USB Key.
[15:54] <Smurphy> identify the USB Key - stick it into the computer, then on a console issue: dmesg
[15:54] <lmfaq> but bs is not the writing speed?
[15:54] <Smurphy> let it run until the end, and see which /dev/sd???? it issues.
[15:54] <lmfaq> sdb1
[15:54] <Smurphy> bs=block size....
[15:55] <Smurphy> So make it: dd if=kubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1m
[15:55] <Smurphy> don't put it on /dev/sdb1 !!! => /dev/sdb
[15:55] <Smurphy> Oh, and erase the file "usbkey" in your download/home directory - cause that's where it was written to ;)
[15:56] <lmfaq> ok, i tried also with sdb, btw i always missed the bs..damn me...i'm going to try again, so ok i format the usb devide and re-try
[15:56] <lmfaq> decice*
[15:57] <lmfaq> omg device, sorry
[15:57] <Smurphy> the bs=1m is just to speed up the write process... Else it takes way longer :)
[15:57] <Smurphy> And - make sure the iso image you have downloaded is complete -> compare the MD5 Checksums ...
[15:59] <lmfaq> mhm..maybe i understand wrong...i did "sudo dd if=/home/lmfaq/kub.iso of=/dev/sdb", i want avoid bs if not necessary
[16:00] <Smurphy> Why avoid bs ? it is block size. You don't have to use it. It will just take longer to write it down.
[16:00] <BluesKaj> don't avoid bs=1m it helps write the bits faster
[16:00] <Smurphy> I hipe it works. I have to go...
[16:01] <lmfaq> ok smurphy, thank a lot
[16:01] <lmfaq> by the way if i joint the usb key i can see all the same files that i find inside the kub.iso
[16:02] <lmfaq> if i join, if i open
[16:06] <TerminalVelocity> i'm looking for some guidance regarding my recent upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10
[16:06] <TerminalVelocity> so, the upgrade went smoothly :-)
[16:06] <TerminalVelocity> one minor issue though
[16:07] <TerminalVelocity> prior to the upgrade i installed dropbox using the .deb package provided by Dropbox.com
[16:07] <TerminalVelocity> in verion 15.04, it installed the dropbox icon into my tray
[16:07] <TerminalVelocity> after the upgrade, the dropbox icon which was in the the tray is no longer there
[16:08] <TerminalVelocity> any ideas on how to get the dropbox icon to show up in the tray again?
[16:13] <BluesKaj> TerminalVelocity, not being a default app, dropbox needs reinstalling, that's all
[16:15] <TerminalVelocity> BluesKaj, yes...i tried that (dpkg --purge dropbox) and reinstalled the .deb package.  that did not seem to work.  do i need to reboot my machine?
[16:15] <BluesKaj> most likely TerminalVelocity , yes
[16:25] <jubo2> So my black screen after login and loading progress bar..
[16:26] <jubo2> Is it likely an Plasma problem or sould I look for it in x or something..
[16:26] <jubo2> Now that I am able to boot to livecd version and mount the /home
[16:44] <jubo2> any help? plasma or X problem if the screen turns black after the loader bar after login
[16:44] <jubo2> I have mounted my /home partition so I can change the files using this LiveCD and try rebooting to the Kubuntu15.10 installation till it doesn't turn black
[16:51] <jubo2> I'm looking at ~/.kde/share/config but not really sure what I should be looking
[16:51] <jubo2> I'm guessing the black screen is due to some mixup about the internal and external display
[16:52] <jubo2> I mean in the installed Kubuntu15.10 sometimes showed the kde-menu in the internal and sometimes in the external monitor
[16:54] <jubo2> help?
[17:01] <kubuntu> hai
[17:02] <Guest2694> im trying Kubuntu from live usb. how do i turn off kwin composite effect?
[17:03] <Guest2694> also i am installing plasmoid-widget-redshift but i cannot find/add it from "add widget" menu, did i miss something?
[17:03] <jubo2> I found some instructions. Rebooting now to try them
[17:05] <Guest2694> this is my first time using KDE/Plasma 5, lots of things are missing from KDE 4 :(
[17:06] <drleviathan> jubo2, you're probably on the path toward the right solution but one workaround is to move the entire KDE config directory to the side and try to login without one --> a default config will be copied into place and you probably won't get the black screen.
[17:09] <drleviathan> Guest2694, that is always the case a WindowManager is overhauled.
[17:09] <drleviathan> Features are left unimplemented to get the new version out.
[17:10] <drleviathan> Usually the good features get finished and added back later.
[17:10] <Gamayun> Guest2694: Is that the plasma 5 version? I think it is called redshift-control-*.plasmoid
[17:10] <drleviathan> I think I'll install Plasma5 on an unimportant machine first to see which features have been lost.
[17:11] <Guest2694> drleviathan: ok that topic is too "political", now what about the missing widget? does it mean that the redshift plasmoid aren't compatible with KDE in Kubuntu Wily?
[17:12] <Gamayun> Guest2694: Try adding it from the 'Get new widgets' button...
[17:13] <Guest2694> Gamayun: i did and it is not there. does it mean that it is incompatible?
[17:14] <jubo2> got some more info on the problem.
[17:15] <Gamayun> Guest2694: Well, I'm using it now, so it shouldn't be.. ;)
[17:15] <jubo2> Hitting CRTL-ALT-F1 in the black screen gives a text shell
[17:15] <Gamayun> Guest2694: Note that it depends on libqt5qml-graphicaleffects
[17:15] <jubo2> hitting ALT-F1 gives the black screen back
[17:15] <Guest2694> Gamayun: the package name is plasma-widget-redshift, right?
[17:16] <jubo2> and when I logged in into the prompt it had a message that cannot find primary display
[17:16] <jubo2> or something like that
[17:16] <Gamayun> Guest2694: Hm, no I think that's the older one...
[17:16] <jubo2> how do I connect wifi without a GUI_
[17:17] <jubo2> I installed irssi so i could get help from the shell I am able to access
[17:17] <Guest2694> Gamayun: ok what's the package name, i probably installed the older one, like you've said
[17:18] <Guest2694> cannot live without redshift
[17:19] <Gamayun> Guest2694: Not sure it's in the repos yet. I've installed it from the button in the 'Add widgets' menu.
[17:20] <Guest2694> DAE have problem with login that took so long?
[17:24] <Guest2694> Gamayun: ok found it, works OK now. cheers bro
[17:25] <jubo2> gonna boot there and see what xrandr says
[17:26] <Gamayun> Guest2694: Np ;)
[17:27] <Guest2694> So can i turn off Kwin compisotor or not? feels so sluggish even with Blur effect turn off. GPU is Intel HD4400
[17:35] <ogigm> kubuntu 15.10 reboot give no gui, command line says Errors encountered while processing base-files, any ideas?
[17:45] <jubo2> Hi again
[17:45] <jubo2> Running 'xrandr' just says the same "display not available"
[17:46] <jubo2> Somewhere there is a setting which is making the machine expect to find an external display on the DisplayPort that's on the dock that is not here
[17:47] <jubo2> this Kubuntu liked to (apparently) lottery which display it thought to be the primary
[17:54] <jubo2> I gonna toy around with Xreset if that helps
[17:59] <jubo2> hiya.. now in irssi in text shell
[17:59] <jubo2> managed to get internets connected to this broken OS
[18:00] <hsnr> hi
[18:00] <jubo2> running Xreset didn't cause noticable change
[18:09] <amichair> what package does the software update notification icon belong to?
[18:16] <amichair> also, how do I investigate why libqgpgme1 is being held back after upgrade to 15.10?
[18:21] <drleviathan> amichair, do you know the icon file for that update notification?  If so you can do a "dpkg -S filename" to figure out which package installed it.
[18:45] <amichair> drleviathan: thanks, but I have no idea where the icon file is
[18:46] <drleviathan> amichair, the icon probably lives in /usr/share
[18:46] <drleviathan> you can hunt for icons with "notification" in their names like this:
[18:46] <drleviathan> cd /usr/share
[18:47] <drleviathan> find ./ | grep -i notification | grep png
[18:47] <drleviathan> perhaps the result of such a search will reveal a likely candidate
[18:47] <amichair> or in one command, find /usr/share -name "*notification*.png"
[18:47] <amichair> :-)
[18:48] <amichair> which results in a few tens of results
[18:48] <drleviathan> yeah, well if you know which icon theme you're using you can probably narrow it down
[18:49] <amichair> dpkg -S just shows it to be part of the theme package
[18:51] <drleviathan> and you were asking which package installed it.  What do you really want to do?
[18:52] <amichair> drleviathan: oh, I see the confusion
[18:53] <amichair> drleviathan: I'm looking for the package to which the functionality of the icon belongs
[18:53] <amichair> drleviathan: i.e. whatever makes software update notifications popup and changes the icon  accordingly
[18:53] <amichair> there's always a red x on it
[18:53] <amichair> although come to think of it, maybe it's somehow related to the held back package issue
[18:54] <amichair> perhaps I should tackle that one first
[20:32] <hammerandtongs_> hello, is anyone aware of this bug https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=92504
[20:33] <hammerandtongs_> this causes severe hangs on plasmashell
[20:33] <hammerandtongs_> macbook air 2011 for me
[20:34] <hammerandtongs_> i didn't find a reference to it in launchpad
[20:41] <finetundra__> hammerandtongs_: all I can think to say is try a different DE. Plasma 5 still has bugs that are being ironed out
[20:57] <hammerandtongs_> finetundra__: its a solved bug in kernel 4.3 unfortunately it leaves plasma unusable in 15.10
[21:37] <Orbeitrol> Hello, i have kubuntu 15.2 and im having a problem with the icons tray, the wifi icon disappears and the battery icon too and to make them appear again i have to deactivate and activate them, can someone help me with that issue please?
[21:49] <soee> Orbeitrol: it is not Kubuntu bug
[21:49] <soee> this is Plasma 5 issue, and devs are investigating it
[21:49] <soee> but it's not so easy to track it down
[22:01] <Orbeitrol> soee: thanks you
[22:10] <rom1504> vlc is broken (can't fullscreen videos) in 15.10
[22:11] <rom1504> anyway to fix that ?
[23:05] <Xavi92> Is it possible to compile GCC 5.2.0 on Kubuntu 12.04?
[23:07] <drleviathan> you mean you want to install gcc-5.2 on Kubuntu 12.04 so that you can compile other things using gcc-5.2?
[23:07]  * drleviathan doesn't know how to do it.
[23:08] <Unit193> Basically, don't.
[23:49] <ussher_> my kubuntu 14.04 system slows down over the course of a day, its becoming a habbit to reboot around 4:00 to speed it back up again.  Are there any GUI type tools to help figure out where the bottleneck is?
[23:56] <Eluus> kubuntu started faster this time, is the slow boot bug fixed?