[01:58] <daftykins> seriously are we getting trolled by folk pretending to be idiots right now?
[01:59] <daftykins> this guy can't scroll, the last one pasted his cat /etc/issue and still tries to lie about what he's running
[01:59] <cfhowlett> well that kind of trolling does require a bit of thought so ... 1 point!
[02:00] <daftykins> :D
[02:06] <wileee> must be meds call
[02:07] <cfhowlett> check the lunar cycle
[02:07] <wileee> full moon here last night
[02:08] <cfhowlett> ahhhhhhhhhhhh that explains much!
[02:09] <daftykins> doh!
[02:12] <wileee> have felt a bit vampeerish last couple of days
[02:12] <cfhowlett> I still have my Ubuntu Satanic Edition wallpapers ...
[02:14] <daftykins> just had that mjayk chewing me out in PM telling me how to be polite
[02:16] <cfhowlett> if you're not pissing SOMEONE off, you're not doing your job!
[02:16] <daftykins> hahaha
[02:17] <wileee> heh, zactly, #ubuntu-bootcamp
[02:17] <daftykins> perhaps i could be the rude drill instructor in there
[02:18] <daftykins> "now listen here maggots, this is for *buntu... i don't wanna see any Mint, elementary or debian flash drives, understand?"
[02:18] <wileee> ;)
[02:18] <cfhowlett> you do that, I'll be samuel l. jackson.
[02:18] <daftykins> deal!
[02:19] <wileee> one of the best actor's around
[02:24] <cfhowlett> daftykins, wahhh!  it's so hard!!!
[02:24] <daftykins> yeah this one is a complete asshole
[02:30] <cfhowlett> hey daftykins, he seems to really like your assistance
[02:31] <daftykins> a little... too much
[02:31] <daftykins> ;)
[02:40] <daftykins> 'reboot into windows and out of my life'
[02:41] <daftykins> think i know why nobody else was helping now :P
[02:41] <cfhowlett> I had to /ignore.  too much bandwidth for too little ROI
[02:41] <daftykins> :D
[02:41] <daftykins> i think wileee's rule about guests is a good one
[02:41] <cfhowlett> ??? explain
[02:43] <daftykins> ignore them all :D
[02:44] <cfhowlett> LOL.  okay then.
[02:46] <wileee> heh
[03:22] <daftykins> this Guest won't die
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> cfhowletttttttttttt
[09:14] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: how are you today
[09:15] <cfhowlett> hungry.  horny.  broke.  you?
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:15] <lotuspsychje> happy, coffee, irc
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/libreoffice-5-1-to-start-twice-as-fast-has-ms-office-2016-interoperability-495466.shtml
[09:17] <lotuspsychje> alot of activity on libreoffice lately
[09:17] <TJ-> Shot in the arm since it escaped Oracle
[09:18] <cfhowlett> yep.  welcome activity.  still: outlook is the 800 pound gorilla locking in corporate IT departments.
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> yeah and very vulnerable
[09:20] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: how you like my xenial desktop :p http://lotuspsychje.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-16-04-64bit-Development-branch-568865930
[09:21] <cfhowlett> !!!
[09:21] <cfhowlett> Halo?
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> somthing like that :p
[09:25] <cfhowlett> OK, I'm jealous, lotuspsychje.   where do I find 16.04 images?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: are you on 15.10?
[09:25] <cfhowlett> 14.04 but this is for my vbox
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: i did sudo do-release-upgrade -d from wily
[09:26] <cfhowlett> cool
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[09:26] <cfhowlett> wiley ubuntustudio cloning now ...
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: doesnt work from trusty
[09:27] <cfhowlett> wiley
[09:27] <cfhowlett> I have wiley studio in vbox
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> nice
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> xenial studio in a bit :p
[09:28] <TJ-> xenial is only wily with a different name right now
[09:29] <cfhowlett> understood
[09:30] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: when will first updates start to come?
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: 31dec its alpha, will something happen before then?
[09:32] <TJ-> First operation is to clone the 15.10 archive to 16.04. Check. Then prepare the tooling changes (gcc, python version (now default 3.5 I think). Check. Then start imports and syncs from Debian
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: toolchain happenes already right
[09:33] <TJ-> Yes
[09:33] <TJ-> Hence my "Check" as in Done
[09:34] <lotuspsychje> yep
[09:34] <TJ-> There's been some holdups due to problems with ARM64 builders I think, but not sure how protracted that was/is
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: so will updates start before 31dec alpha?
[09:35] <TJ-> Thinking of Python code, grrr, there's a simple autoconnect add-on for weechat annoying me, only a few lines of code, but I cannot see how it is failing!
[09:36] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: they'll be continuous from now on until feature freeze
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> great
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> so bit by bit, it will start acting as a xenial and loose the wily
[09:36] <TJ-> right now it is stable since its 15.10... in a day or so there will be a lot of breakage
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> nice
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> looking forward to :p
[09:37]  * lotuspsychje is ready for bug hunting
[09:41] <TJ-> I sometimes wish I could have a year WITHOUT bug hunting!
[09:42] <cfhowlett> be vewwy, bewwy quiet.  lotuspsychje is hunting bugs.
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:43] <TJ-> Ada has a lot to answer for! We could be hunting boogey-men!
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> windows has tons of bugs aswell, but nobody hunts lol
[09:43] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: they do, that was what I did before Linux, but it is 100x more frustrating without access to source-code, and if MS aren't interested you cannot get it fixed
[09:44] <cfhowlett> windows doesn't have millions of rabid (zealous) fans and enemies.  Look at all the bandwidth that exploded when mark changed the icon orientation, for example.
[09:45] <TJ-> I had to spend a lot of time and resources reverse-engineering code first, was expensive for clients and very time consuming
[09:46] <TJ-> Within the developer community there is a LOT of push and shove when MS changes things, thats why Windows has so much backward compatibility built in that actually holds it back
[09:47] <TJ-> API removal = user programs don't work. User cannot just recompile, has to buy latest version. Not happy. Bad Microsoft
[09:47] <TJ-> That's why MS's own 0-day fixes are so fraught; the fix may also introduce a regression in well behaved applications :)
[09:48] <TJ-> As one of the windows API devs once told me: "Windows is just layers of band aids now"
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> lol
[09:48] <TJ-> No one knows what is cruft, what is vital, any more, so they just leave well alone :)
[09:55] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: all ok?
[09:57] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje, doing ok here. Got coffee. What about you?
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> at noon we gonna get ourselfs french frites :p
[09:58] <lordievader> Nice, nice.
[09:58] <lotuspsychje> i think ill have a mitraillete, you know what that is?
[09:58] <lordievader> No.
[09:58] <lordievader> Patatje oorlog?
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> hum holdon
[09:59] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: http://www.mora.be/inspiraties/mitraillette-hamburger-xl/
[10:00] <TJ-> Grrr, you're making the Huskies drool!
[10:00] <lordievader> Seems like a mismatch of things to me :P
[10:01] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: loool
[10:02] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: lolol im googling patatje oorlog, that seems a big mismatch for me :p
[10:02] <lordievader> It is... Never had one.
[10:02] <lordievader> TJ-: I think they are trying to tell you something....
[10:03] <lordievader> :P
[10:03] <TJ-> They are! My tummy is too
[10:04] <TJ-> Flash has gone off around the farm and they haven't been fed yet, and the Huskies are getting impatient
[10:04] <lordievader> So you guys can eat together! Go for it!
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> i think cfhowlett is eating a cow right now, so hungry and silent
[10:04] <cfhowlett> moo
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: you spend a fortune on dog dinner meals?
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: how many pound of flesh those guys eat a day?
[10:05] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: only my feet :)
[10:05] <lotuspsychje> lol
[10:05] <TJ-> they're not too bad, they have 2 x 225g meal per day, plus scraps from human meals
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> and how many dogs
[10:06] <TJ-> over summer they get 250g whilst they're more active
[10:06] <TJ-> 2 huskies, 1 collie
[10:06] <TJ-> the collie has a bery high metabolism so gets more
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> thats 1500g daily + half of your plates lol
[10:07] <TJ-> Well, the licking-up saves on the dishwasher :)
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> true :p
[10:08] <TJ-> when they're not doing anything else the Huskies love just to curl up  on the sofa, or sun-bathe if its warm. The collie wants to chase things from 6am to midnight though
[10:09] <lordievader> Do the huskies get annoyed at the collie at times?
[10:10] <TJ-> No, they have 2 different behaviours. Silver was always playful and likes playing with Flash. Pepper was very reserved and aggressive to other dogs when we got her, but after Flash arrived he taught her how to play and she's mellowed quite a bit.
[10:11] <lordievader> That is nice :)
[10:11] <TJ-> Both Huskies are from a rescue center, adopted 6 months apart, and Flash turned up as a stray :)
[10:11] <TJ-> They're my distraction and tonic from intense hours coding and so on
[10:15] <lordievader> Like now, "Hungry, feed me!"
[10:15] <TJ-> Right but they've had breakfast so they can wait!
[10:16] <lordievader> They'll distract you until they get fed :P
[10:16] <TJ-> they've fallen asleep again :)
[10:17] <lordievader> Ah, they've gotten distracted themselves. :P
[10:21] <TJ-> It's raining - they prefer to be curled up. It's fine - they want to run
[10:25] <TJ-> Pepper has just been howling in her sleep :D
[10:27] <lordievader> Good dreams?
[10:28] <TJ-> Apparently... it sounds like someone laughing in their throat, starts me off giggling
[10:28] <TJ-> I never manage to record it though, I really need to
[10:29] <lordievader> I would like to hear that ;)
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> http://news.softpedia.com/news/ubuntu-touch-developers-preparing-for-a-possible-rebase-on-xenial-xerus-495470.shtml
[11:40] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:41] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett:
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> wb
[12:28]  * Nicholas says hello
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> hi Nicholas
[12:29] <Nicholas> hello lotuspsychje
[12:29] <cfhowlett> 17.10 will be a Yak but ... what KIND of Yak?
[12:29] <cfhowlett> 16.10
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: you sure?
[12:30] <cfhowlett> Well, that's what Ms. Cleo told me so ...
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> :p
[12:32] <Nicholas> can i install ubuntu on windows x86 tablet?
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> yes
[12:32] <Nicholas> its an intel based tablet
[12:33] <Nicholas> i mean it has 64 intel cpu
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu desktop runs on win8 based tablets, depending brand of course
[12:33] <Nicholas> its a dell
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas: some brands might need tweaking
[12:33] <Nicholas> do these windows tablet have bios or Efi?
[12:33] <Nicholas> tablets*
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> win8 is uefi
[12:34] <Nicholas> i see
[12:50] <lotuspsychje> johnny_linuxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[12:51] <johnny_linux> woohoo
[12:51] <johnny_linux> ahoy
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> hi mate
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> hows you today
[12:51] <johnny_linux> gday
[12:51] <johnny_linux> not bad. just gearing up to fix more junk tday
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> :p
[12:52] <johnny_linux> i love when customers do self repairs, then, ack like they dont know how it became (more) broke
[12:52] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> johnny_linux: you employee at hardware pc?
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> or own store?
[12:53] <johnny_linux> i own my home biz, fix 2way radios ham/police/biz radio
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> nice
[12:54] <johnny_linux> its not bad, been here 30+ yrz, everyone knos
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> im gonna start ubuntu biz from home
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> still looking for proper house to work from
[12:54] <johnny_linux> nice, my motto is, if it comes in with windoze, it leaves ubuntu, company policy.
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> johnny_linux: how come a radio guy got hooked with linux?
[12:56] <johnny_linux> long story short, back in 04 my w2k got hakt with best firewall, so i dled bsd 3.6 and got started there, then when ubuntu came out, i got  hookt
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> nice!
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> and still got home linux based firewall right now?
[12:57] <johnny_linux> i said 2 myself, why didnt i do this 10 yrs ago
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> oh well, whats time anyway :p
[12:58] <johnny_linux> dling a firewall w/dialup wasnt my cup of tea
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> never too late to opensource
[12:58] <johnny_linux> exactly
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> thats gonna be my spiritual purpose, convince ppl to ubuntu
[12:58] <lotuspsychje> i installed over 70 boxes with trusty by now
[12:58] <johnny_linux> i have zero pblms when they see mine work
[12:58] <johnny_linux> wow
[12:59] <johnny_linux> very good
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> and i didnt start my biz yet lol
[12:59] <johnny_linux> i charge $100.00, totally install and config, turnkey
[13:00] <lotuspsychje> nice
[13:00] <johnny_linux> ok, time to get the ball & chain on, bbl, be cool my friend
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> ok
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> cheers johnny_linux
[13:02] <johnny_linux> ikonia needs to get a job
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:02] <johnny_linux> i bet he strip searches his kids when they come home from school
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> !xenial
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> bbl movie time
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> ioria: hello mate
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> ioria: you have hexchat?
[15:29] <ioria> hi
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> wow 3 eol's in half n hour
[15:49] <ioria> lotuspsychje, no, xchat ... i'm nostalgic
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> ioria: add this chan to favorites :p
[15:49] <ioria> ok
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> ioria: xchat is become bad mate
[15:49] <ioria> i know....
[15:50] <ioria> i have  low res monitor... and hexchat  is not as  clearreading as xchat ....
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> ok mate :p
[15:54] <Nicholas> anyone know about cars?
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> Nicholas: ##cars does
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> but i warn you, their not very friendly
[15:55] <Nicholas> i know
[15:55] <Nicholas> they are really rude
[16:00] <johnny_linux> i do
[16:00] <johnny_linux> shoot
[16:02] <johnny_linux> Nicholas,  i have 10 mins before i have to go
[16:02] <Nicholas> well nothing , i was just wondering  why toyota landcruisers so ridiculously expensive
[16:03] <johnny_linux> lol
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> :p
[16:03] <johnny_linux> back in the 60's when japan came out with toyota, they were 1/2 the price, the usa told them to jack it up to be competitive
[16:04] <TJ-> They don't wear out, they're built to last, they're easy to service
[16:04] <johnny_linux> they were
[16:04] <TJ-> they still are; we have one on the farm and it takes a lot of stick
[16:05] <Nicholas> after all its a modernized jeep
[16:06] <Nicholas> one could buy a range rover or  mercedes for the same price
[16:06] <johnny_linux> just keep your cooling sys clean and up to date, as, heat takes the life from the motor
[16:06] <TJ-> Yes, RR doesn't do nearly as well
[16:08] <BluesKaj> mercedes are ultra expensive to repair ...parts are ridiculusly expensive and then there's the labour cost
[16:09] <TJ-> Yes; we're able to do most repairs ourselves on the LR
[16:09] <TJ-> sorry, LC
[16:10] <TJ-> we replaced the gearbox about 2 years ago, only took 1/2 a day
[16:16] <johnny_linux> huh, pretty hard to kill a gearbox, unless it had a leak
[16:18] <TJ-> depends on the kind of loads you try to make it pull :)
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: can you recall name of the intel bios option that can block install another Os?
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> keep forgetting its name
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> ive seen that option once on a medion desktop
[16:19] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure I follow... I saw the discussion in #ubuntu, but that can't be a firmware issue if SO updates are apparently missing. Sounds to me like 2 installs side-by-side and 1 boots 1 time, and the other boots next, one gets the updates then boots to the 'old' one and confuses the user :)
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: not its not related to this user, just wondering its name
[16:21] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: the only thing I can think of is the boot sector virus protection; but nothing in BIOS can prevent the OS accessing the HDD itself
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> not it was called, intel something something
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> a deep bios setting somewhere
[16:21] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: are you thinking about the UEFI systems? Where the UEFI boot-loader exectuable has to be marked as 'trusted' in order to boot with it?
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: it was something else then legacy/uefi or fastboot+secureboot
[16:22] <lotuspsychje> and it was an uefi machine yes
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> i need to start writing things down grrr
[16:23] <TJ-> :D
[16:24] <lotuspsychje> let me dig into medion akoya manuals
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[17:41] <johnny_linux> lol poop
[18:14] <ioria> !imgur
[18:15] <daftykins> ? :)
[18:15] <ioria> sorry
[18:15] <daftykins> s'ok
[18:18] <ioria> there was a  guy before  who wanted  to rescue data with  photorec sorted by date , and  was told that  he couldn't  ,but now i'm trying  with testdisk (with  a usb pen)   and  it   displays  the  dates ....  maybe  i'm confused
[18:24] <OerHeks> daftykins, do you have any idea what machine motaka is using?
[18:24] <daftykins> nothing much beyond being a desktop i think
[18:24] <OerHeks> that answer i cannot find anywhere, it si a desktop, but no clue on video/cpu
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> the same guys comming over and over here again
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> confusing sometimes
[18:43] <daftykins> any in particular?
[18:43] <daftykins> motaka kinda annoys me, he/she knew the situation the other day and yet still comes back as if i was hiding a solution
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> we had alot of eol's today
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> ioria: he wanted to find the latest file he edited, not the latest created by photorec
[18:50] <ioria> lotuspsychje, i made some tests, and the date/time refer to the original files  ...
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> oh nice
[18:50] <ioria> i wanted  to show you the pic  , buti cannot go thought imgur :(
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> ioria: i like photorec alot
[18:51] <ioria> it asks  me for an account
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> ioria: i recovered data from far away ages with it
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> ioria: tinypic
[18:51] <ioria> thanks
[18:52] <BluesKaj> or users who have hybrid graphics setup , but tell us thr gpu is amd when there are 2 different makes
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> yea alot of optimus issues lately aswell
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> and tons of acpi firmware bugs on 15.04
[18:54] <BluesKaj> optimus is usually intel and nvidia which usually have a workaround, but amd and intel are a mystery to me
[18:55] <ioria> lotuspsychje, http://i66.tinypic.com/2dqplvq.png
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> ioria: nice, on lubuntu :p
[18:56] <ioria> yep
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: didnt have much amd hybrid users myself
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> http://linux.softpedia.com/blog/snappy-ubuntu-16-04-lts-will-support-nvidia-and-amd-drivers-says-mark-shuttleworth-495462.shtml
[19:03] <BluesKaj> the nvidia 340.93 driver is working here on kubuntu 16.04
[19:03] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: nice!
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> my radeon on X800 Ati working flawless on xenial aswell
[19:04] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, are you using snapp?
[19:04] <BluesKaj> snappy  even
[19:04] <lotuspsychje> no
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> its more for 'things' so ill dont play with it
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: more interesting will be OTA8 on my bq phone
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> xenial and unity8 on mir
[19:05] <lotuspsychje> in 2 weeks i think
[19:06] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, wow, ATI ...still runs fine, good to hear :-)
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: yes and my card is oldddddd X800 lol
[19:06] <lotuspsychje> payed like 500$ back in the days
[19:06] <BluesKaj> well lotuspsychje if it works...
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> sure
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> it boots faster then my new netbook lol
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> on transcend 8gig
[19:07] <BluesKaj> cool
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> i refuse to throw away working hardware
[19:08] <BluesKaj> agreed, absolutely
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> ecologic 2nd life ubuntu machines :p
[19:09] <BluesKaj> heh  my car is 10yrs old, still runs fine ...knocks on wood :-)
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> wich brand
[19:10] <BluesKaj> forf taurus
[19:10] <BluesKaj> err ford
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> my father had a renault R4 he drove 20 years with it
[19:10] <lotuspsychje> we went to norway on vacation with thet car
[19:10]  * BluesKaj nods
[19:11] <BluesKaj> 92K Km so we'll keep ir for a few more yrs
[19:11] <lotuspsychje> :p
[19:13] <BluesKaj> we're both retired on fixed income
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: maybe in few years we fly in ubuntu snappy drones
[19:14] <BluesKaj> heh
[19:14]  * lotuspsychje throws an ubuntu spider in johnny_linux's neck
[19:15] <daftykins> don't wake that guy up again! he'll talk politics all night!
[19:15] <lotuspsychje> loool
[19:16] <OerHeks> I like politicians ..
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> burried alive
[19:16] <OerHeks> .. raw, medium and really really done.
[19:16] <lotuspsychje> wahahaha
[19:16]  * BluesKaj has had enough of politics for a while ...just had a federal election here
[19:17] <OerHeks> did you get voted, BluesKaj ?
[19:17] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:17] <BluesKaj> I didn't run for office
[19:18] <BluesKaj> country was smitten by Trudeau-mania
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> active support day :p
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> just how we like
[19:41] <OerHeks> starting with "#ubuntu-server send me over here"  is not my cup-of-tea
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> yeah i dont like that neither
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> you thinbk they did that?
[19:41] <OerHeks> now ranting about services, KFKG
[19:42] <OerHeks> nope, i hang there too
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[19:42] <daftykins> that KFKG fellows company is about to make some serious mistakes
[19:42] <OerHeks> not comming to the point ..
[19:42] <daftykins> wanted to disable the RAID 1? :(
[19:43] <OerHeks> yeah, that one gives me the itch
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> there we go again @ black screens
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> grrrr
[20:31] <daftykins> indeed
[20:31] <daftykins> what've all the wily ones been so far? bad drivers?
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> alot of optimus users without right combination
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> wrong driver without nvidia-prime installed
[20:34] <daftykins> ah har
[20:34] <daftykins> perhaps nvidia-prime isn't correctly in as a dependancy?
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: i think it gets installed, when selecting right nvidia driver
[20:36] <lotuspsychje> problem is ubuntu chooses opensource one as default
[20:36] <daftykins> oh right, ah well that's always the case yeah
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> most users get nice combo with nvidia-prime + 331 or 340 nvidia (example)
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> i dont like thos hybrid grafix
[20:37] <daftykins> they're more trouble than they're worth, even in Windows really
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> they should make clean bios option enable/disable
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> why make an nvidia and the use the intel cpu one?
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> makes no sense not to use best card
[20:38] <daftykins> sure it does, you keep the intel for battery life
[20:39] <daftykins> my own laptop is a sandybridge era with optimus, it does 8-10hrs battery with the intel only
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> right
[20:39] <daftykins> there are so many different implementations of optimus though that it's a mess
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> ive quit gaming after they invented all those expensive monster cards
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> sli, quad,..
[20:41] <lotuspsychje> pffff
[20:41] <daftykins> well nvidia-optimus is just the nvidia hybrid yeah :)
[20:41] <daftykins> nothing to do with multi-GPU
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> yeah i know
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> just dont like multi nothing
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> but thats just my opinion :p
[20:43] <lotuspsychje> multiboot..lol
[20:43] <daftykins> :)
[20:43] <daftykins> yeah, that never works because you always end up neglecting one OS for the other
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> indeed
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> and save nice ssd space for the best os: UBUNTU
[20:50] <daftykins> er newp
[20:50]  * daftykins glances into the channel where folk have audio issues, graphics issues, wifi not working...
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> lolz
[20:50] <daftykins> :)
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> the most active irc channel of the world
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> ppl asking all kind of stuff here
[20:51] <daftykins> 'cause their OS doesn't work out of the box *whistle*
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> loool
[20:52] <daftykins> nah in honesty i do believe they're all a mess, so don't get me wrong :)
[20:52] <daftykins> ok i really need to get some food started!
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> bon apetit mate
[20:53] <daftykins> ty :) this one is going to take 50 minutes though :(
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> oh oh
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> filled turkey for halloween?
[20:55] <daftykins> halloween was never a thing for me growing up, as it goes
[20:55] <lotuspsychje> neither here
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> i just like pumpkin soup
[20:56] <daftykins> :D
[21:03] <lotuspsychje> nite nite all
[21:20] <wileee> heh the daily  ignore list builds
[21:26] <daftykins> indeed!
[21:33] <daftykins> wileee: aww you'll have to ignore me too, since i'm on Windows :)
[21:34] <wileee> I use windows it's the misspelling that is offensive
[21:34] <daftykins> ah
[21:34] <wileee> os is an os here
[21:35] <daftykins> :)
[21:35] <daftykins> i misread
[21:35] <wileee> heh, well I'm a bit generalized at times
[21:36] <wileee> That user their helping needs personal help local really, than they will be set, you have to stop helping sometimes.
[21:37] <wileee> an opinion though I realize, ;)
[21:37] <daftykins> yeah some definitely are impossible to use as an intermediary between us and their broken stuff :D
[21:38] <wileee> lol, so true
[21:38] <daftykins> the one last night that couldn't scroll the IRC chat to see my earlier commands?
[21:38] <daftykins> i was ready to commit murder :(
[21:43] <wileee> always nice, the st guy has no clue on how to really help, all ego no substance
[21:50] <EriC^^> :D
[21:50] <daftykins> \o/
[21:50] <daftykins> EriC^^: https://youtu.be/r0qBaBb1Y-U?t=69
[21:50] <daftykins> oop my oven!
[21:50] <EriC^^> hahahaha
[21:51] <EriC^^> xD
[21:52] <wileee> phil collins really a great drummer self taught and played in tech rock early on, his singing is an acquired taste however, ;)
[21:52] <wileee> funny ref though
[21:59] <daftykins> if i didn't disbelieve in its' usage, i could alias sudo to sususudio :D
[22:01] <wileee> heh, I saw lately that phil is a scholar on the civil war I think it was.
[22:01] <wileee> to much free time there
[22:02] <daftykins> :D
[22:08] <johnny_linux> ican seeit in the air2nite
[22:08] <johnny_linux> lets talk politics
[22:08] <johnny_linux> puhleeze
[22:10] <wileee> world or local heh
[22:10] <johnny_linux> obamanomics
[22:10] <johnny_linux> el oh el
[22:10] <johnny_linux> gimme gimme gimme
[22:10] <wileee> heh, I like the big T wont leave IOWA, and wont talk to them if not supported
[22:11] <johnny_linux> ya
[22:11] <johnny_linux> that debate was trash, typical controlled media
[22:12] <wileee> He has a big force in Carson, who is being sure to not play a American sterotype, while trump plays one all the way
[22:12] <wileee> didn't see the debate though
[22:12] <johnny_linux> ci like both of them, they both have good strong points
[22:13] <johnny_linux> carson is simple and the mnedia cant handle a brain surgeon being a non politician running
[22:13] <wileee> sure, in truth I like bernies message, however this is not his rhetoric, it's been around a long time and is supported statistically and has truth in it.
[22:14] <johnny_linux> one thing is 4 sure, we dont need another bush/clinton dynasty
[22:14] <johnny_linux> ever watch money masters ?
[22:15] <wileee> looks like a psych op's contest to me really, from the tinfoil hat room
[22:15] <wileee> the book of job on earth
[22:15] <johnny_linux> ya, kinda
[22:15] <wileee> humanity as job, heh,
[22:16] <johnny_linux> but but but, job was a righteous man
[22:16] <daftykins> mikhail is close to being the latest ignore
[22:16] <wileee> I 'magnostic however, one of my favorite books is the answer to job by Carl Jung
[22:17] <wileee> I'm*
[22:17] <johnny_linux> i like the book of enoch/jasher/of giants
[22:18] <wileee> johnny_linux, Yes Job was honorable, inspite of a borderline personality wager by the powers
[22:18] <johnny_linux> the powers of his so called friends were condescending
[22:18] <daftykins> sigh you're ruining this channel again :(
[22:19] <johnny_linux> yes, pay the fee
[22:19] <johnny_linux> you dont always have to be the center of attention
[22:19]  * wileee whistles I'm a little buttercup
[22:19] <johnny_linux> doh
[22:20] <johnny_linux> ima little teapot
[22:20] <daftykins> that's not what i'm getting at, i'm not 12 you know... i just can't stand your constant politics bs :P
[22:20] <daftykins> this is the place i rant about #ubuntu damn it! :)
[22:21] <johnny_linux> then act like it, you seem to have the urge to run things where ever you land, and, when it does not suit you, you play marter
[22:21] <johnny_linux> youre very condescending to the users also
[22:22] <daftykins> try helping once and you might get that way too.
[22:22] <johnny_linux> people are new to linux, they dont know it all like some do.
[22:22] <daftykins> very odd comments from you seeing as this is a first encounter
[22:22] <daftykins> last nights didn't know how to use a scrollbar, you can act as righteous as you like but there's a line for everyone.
[22:22] <daftykins> i suggest you remove your head from your posterior and grow up.
[22:23] <johnny_linux> gat a job son.
[22:23] <wileee> johnny_linux, Dude no ones cares for your opinion.
[22:24] <wileee> excellent a member in perm ignore n ice
[22:24] <daftykins> gat as in gun? :)
[22:24] <daftykins> another teenager i see.
[22:26] <wileee> we would all be calm if we got calm responses as a mean ever, lol
[22:26] <johnny_linux> take lessons fron tj and lotus, both help and are extremely polite as well as go out of their way till things are repaired
[22:27] <daftykins> as have i for years, you obviously haven't been here for long.
[22:27] <johnny_linux> it took all but 5 mins
[22:27] <daftykins> now, try helping yourself for a change instead of sitting, watching and judging
[22:28] <pauljw> Hi everyone
[22:28] <wileee> howdee
[22:28] <daftykins> heya \o
[22:29] <pauljw> :)
[23:39] <daftykins> and another happy customer
[23:40] <Bashing-om> You do good .
[23:43] <wileee> a smattering of applause from the greek chorus
[23:43] <wileee> ;)
[23:44] <wileee> next opponent has half a brain and one hand..................go
[23:45] <Bashing-om> I am learning, pick my punishment carefully .
[23:46] <wileee> yeah, me to, I want to be calm and respectful, and have my limitations.
[23:47] <wileee> just the extras energy from it is useless for me, plenty of it I'm dispersing in my real life
[23:48] <Bashing-om> uh huh, no joy taken, little given out then .
[23:49] <wileee> Not really I mean, not attaching to the drama, I do volunteer work, helping the homeless at work and an org
[23:51] <Bashing-om> The 'drama' adds little to the solution, in my own opinion .
[23:52] <wileee> yeah, hard for me to not fall into the pit at times, getting better really by watching those I see here doing the right thing.
[23:55] <wileee> it's all ego here, or lack of, heh
[23:56] <Bashing-om> well, me I am for what I can learn, and glad to help as I pass by .
[23:57] <wileee> me to, I try to stay out of the way of good help and wasting others time mainly, any computer stuff I know is all hobby for me.
[23:58] <wileee> could probably make some money just doing installs, a few repairs but plenty that do this around here