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| flocculant | balloons: so that was bizarre ... aborted an install, then the stick which I'd used wouldn't boot the second time | 11:45 |
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| flocculant | also could you approve https://code.launchpad.net/~flocculant/ubuntu-manual-tests/1511324/+merge/276102 | 11:46 |
| knome | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNe5npkid-s | 11:46 |
| flocculant | always good :D | 11:46 |
| flocculant | knome: if you have a minute you could do that MP :) | 11:47 |
| knome | flocculant, shouldn't it be Ctrl+L and not Ctrl +L | 11:47 |
| knome | :P | 11:47 |
| flocculant | not as worried about that as someone digging porn out of that samples place :D | 11:48 |
| knome | well... | 11:49 |
| knome | ok | 11:49 |
| knome | :P | 11:49 |
| flocculant | I'll change the +L before I merge it | 11:49 |
| knome | i approced | 11:49 |
| knome | approved too | 11:49 |
| flocculant | ok doke thanks - I'll do the rest now | 11:49 |
| flocculant | bbs | 11:50 |
| balloons | Good morning | 12:46 |
| flocculant | hi balloons :) | 12:48 |
| flocculant | pitti: haven't reported it with xenial being new and not sure where it stands, but ... had to ln -fs /proc/self/mounts /etc/mtab just now | 13:20 |
| pitti | flocculant: that should happen automatically during boot via /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/debian.conf | 13:22 |
| pitti | flocculant: what happened? did you end up without an /etc/mtab after boot? | 13:22 |
| pitti | flocculant: please do report such issues | 13:22 |
| pitti | flocculant: we have long stopped the "let's break everything now and try to fix half of it after feature freeze" approach :) | 13:23 |
| pitti | flocculant: indeed in xenial I replaced debian-fixup.service with that tmpfiles.d snippet, but except for being faster that shoudl be more or less the same | 13:23 |
| pitti | and I tested it with mtab being a file and absent | 13:23 |
| flocculant | mmm | 13:29 |
| flocculant | I can try again later with the same stick on a different partition and see if I get it again | 13:30 |
| flocculant | pitti: I didn't actually look to see if I ended up without that - though I did manage to boot the system with upstart | 13:31 |
| pitti | flocculant: oh - did it not boot with systemd, and with some error "your /etc/mtab is a file"? | 13:32 |
| pitti | because that's a thing; I meant to send u-devel@ about that | 13:32 |
| flocculant | it failed with "/etc/mtab isn't a symlink or not pointing to /proc/blah" | 13:33 |
| flocculant | pitti: ack - I'll mail the list then :) | 13:33 |
| pitti | flocculant: ok; what kind of install was that? | 13:33 |
| pitti | flocculant: this is precisely meant to find installer bugs etc. which still creates /etc/mtab as a file | 13:33 |
| flocculant | xubuntu 64bit | 13:33 |
| pitti | (I'll disable the hard failure after some weeks, but we really want to find those) | 13:34 |
| pitti | flocculant: oh, so a desktop install? | 13:34 |
| flocculant | pitti: do you want me to bug report it instead? | 13:34 |
| flocculant | yep | 13:34 |
| flocculant | to a pre-formatted partition | 13:34 |
| pitti | flocculant: yes, please; ubiquity for a desktop install will do fine; please give me the bug number, I'll add some additional info to it | 13:34 |
| flocculant | pitti: bug 1511376 | 13:38 |
| ubot5 | bug 1511376 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "/etc/mtab is not a link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1511376 | 13:38 |
| flocculant | I'll link that from the iso tracker too - so hopefully people will see it | 13:39 |
| flocculant | no I won't - still no testcases there to report against ... | 13:40 |
| flocculant | balloons: ^^ when will there be testcases showing up for iso tracker? | 13:40 |
| flocculant | pitti: obviously - anything I can do or provide from here - just ask :) | 13:41 |
| pitti | flocculant: done now: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2015-October/038961.html | 13:43 |
| flocculant | pitti: I can post on the dev bit of the forum - do you want people to me too the bug I just reported - or report each time? | 13:44 |
| pitti | and bug updated | 13:44 |
| pitti | flocculant: nah, duplicates aren't necessary | 13:45 |
| flocculant | k - I'll link your mail and this bug then | 13:45 |
| pitti | me too is sufficient (althuogh this isn't platform specific at all) | 13:45 |
| pitti | flocculant: cheers! | 13:45 |
| flocculant | ok done that now | 13:48 |
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| balloons | flocculant, on the images, I would have expected them by now | 14:06 |
| flocculant | balloons: yep - not looked any further than me and ubuntu, I've got 32bit no 64bit, ubuntu neither | 14:09 |
| balloons | it's a script that runs, but it should be daily | 14:10 |
| balloons | some only run once a week | 14:10 |
| balloons | let's see | 14:10 |
| balloons | I just saw this: https://code.launchpad.net/~pharmasolin/ubuntu-manual-tests/VLC_updated/+merge/275715 | 15:45 |
| balloons | flocculant, how different is that from the xubuntu + orca experience? | 15:46 |
| flocculant | not sure - not had time to look properly | 15:46 |
| flocculant | but the experience won't be saying unity, nor hud for 2 :) | 15:46 |
| flocculant | shame he'd added the orca bit - the vlc was ready to deal with | 15:47 |
| balloons | I'm of the mind to merge it, but I understand your concerns | 15:47 |
| balloons | I'd rather it was more vague overall | 15:48 |
| flocculant | it's your baby L( | 15:48 |
| flocculant | :) | 15:48 |
| balloons | the specific wording may change | 15:48 |
| flocculant | I meant | 15:48 |
| balloons | I'll try leaving a comment | 15:48 |
| flocculant | tbh we don't test it anyway | 15:48 |
| flocculant | but unless it's something very specific like an xfce thing - imho tests should be agnostic | 15:49 |
| flocculant | ESPECIALLY something that's going to talk to you in some mad computer voice ;) | 15:49 |
| balloons | You and I agree on this | 15:49 |
| flocculant | I thought we did :) | 15:49 |
| balloons | flocculant, I'm going to land it, and update / file a bug for checking on the flavor support. I'd hate to lose the improvements, and the contributor is new | 15:51 |
| flocculant | yea | 15:51 |
| flocculant | balloons: or I'll land it | 15:52 |
| flocculant | might look better | 15:52 |
| balloons | flocculant, ohh.. that would be helpful, than kyou | 15:52 |
| flocculant | welcome :) | 15:52 |
| balloons | flocculant, yea, the first MP can be nicer.. if it was you, I'd make you fix it! | 15:52 |
| flocculant | :D | 15:52 |
| flocculant | pitti: re the mtab issue, just want to double check that it's expected in vm's - I assume so | 15:56 |
| flocculant | balloons: ok done all that, created a new bug to doublecheck orca - mentioned in that also the screenreader bug - could be done at the same time perhaps | 16:04 |
| flocculant | bug 1308687 | 16:04 |
| ubot5 | bug 1308687 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Screenreader Testcase needs updating" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308687 | 16:04 |
| pitti | flocculant: this shouldn't be hardware/platform specific at all, indeed | 16:05 |
| flocculant | ok cool - just wanted to make sure - I suspect we'll get lots of people noticing it now :D | 16:05 |
| balloons | flocculant, just looking at the buglist again, and seeing all those lubuntu bugs. | 16:06 |
| flocculant | well | 16:06 |
| flocculant | I see the studio ones :) | 16:06 |
| balloons | and myth.. just agreeing they are quite cluttered | 16:08 |
| flocculant | yea | 16:08 |
| flocculant | I did clear out the edubuntu ones | 16:08 |
| flocculant | and zequence is trying to push the studio stuff | 16:09 |
| flocculant | balloons: I'd quite like to get that bug list cleaned up so it's just got real ones left this cycle | 16:43 |
| balloons | agreed | 16:43 |
| flocculant | I'll manage one way or the other to do that :p | 16:48 |
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| wxl | hey folks. are we aware of the fact that the testcases are no where to be found on the tracker? | 17:49 |
| balloons | wxl, we are | 17:53 |
| balloons | but only the isotracker to be fair | 17:53 |
| wxl | i didn't get a notice that there was a build failure or anything. what's the deal? | 17:53 |
| wxl | balloons: ↑ | 17:53 |
| balloons | well, if you'll notice there's no images for today: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/ | 17:54 |
| balloons | so I'm assuming we'll builds once a new image that passes gating occurs | 17:54 |
| wxl | oh uh weird | 17:54 |
| wxl | but there are images listed on the tracker?? | 17:55 |
| wxl | like our images are there http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20151029/ | 17:55 |
| wxl | well the ubuntu images aren't there it seems balloons, but there are valid images | 17:57 |
| wxl | and those valid images don't have testcases | 17:57 |
| balloons | I'm not sure what you mean | 17:57 |
| balloons | ahh right | 17:57 |
| wxl | if you look at the tracker there are images for the 29th for kubuntu, lubuntu, ubuntu core, etc | 17:58 |
| wxl | there are no images since the 27th for ubuntu desktop | 17:58 |
| wxl | i think that's a separate issue | 17:58 |
| wxl | because no image listed has a testcase associated with it | 17:58 |
| wxl | release team (cjwatson no less) had no clue so i'm assuming it has something to do with either tracker management or with the testcase repo | 17:59 |
| flocculant | almost - for some reason my 32bit does have | 18:03 |
| balloons | ohh, so silly | 18:04 |
| balloons | i misunderstood what you meant until now, hah | 18:05 |
| wxl | who you guys talking to? XD | 18:06 |
| flocculant | balloons: what I meant? | 18:06 |
| flocculant | wxl: I was talking to you perhaps :D | 18:06 |
| flocculant | but earlier balloons and I were discussing it :) | 18:06 |
| balloons | you should look at lubuntu | 18:06 |
| wxl | flocculant: well i can assure you my question is directed at both you and balloons but other than that i don't know XD | 18:06 |
| flocculant | :p | 18:07 |
| flocculant | I *do* have a 32 bit one for some reason | 18:07 |
| wxl | OH | 18:07 |
| wxl | you do! | 18:07 |
| flocculant | now I think that balloons might have see what's up | 18:07 |
| flocculant | yep | 18:07 |
| wxl | i didn' | 18:07 |
| wxl | t scroll down that far XD | 18:07 |
| flocculant | have done for days | 18:08 |
| flocculant | wxl: scroll? | 18:08 |
| wxl | on the tracker, flocculant | 18:08 |
| flocculant | I don't see anyone but mine unless I enable them :D | 18:08 |
| wxl | right right | 18:08 |
| wxl | i usually look at them all when there are problems | 18:08 |
| flocculant | oh I do that | 18:08 |
| balloons | so normally the testsuites are copied over for a new cycle from the previous cycle. However, this is done by a handrun script | 18:10 |
| wxl | balloons: by qa or release? | 18:10 |
| balloons | as product manager, you can always edit it yourself if you wish to change | 18:10 |
| balloons | it's something stephane used to do. Technically, it should be set I suppose by each product manager | 18:11 |
| wxl | well yes but if it's universally a problem… XD | 18:11 |
| wxl | well if you want to make it a thing that each product manager does, i guess an email needs to go out | 18:11 |
| wxl | maybe with instructions if everyone's not clear on the process | 18:11 |
| flocculant | that'd be useful - cos most of the tracker is clear as mud :p | 18:12 |
| wxl | flocculant: incidentially, that was implied XD | 18:13 |
| flocculant | :) | 18:13 |
| wxl | in fact i'm desperately trying to figure out how to do this as we speak XD | 18:13 |
| flocculant | I can do most of what I need to now without breaking my stuff | 18:13 |
| flocculant | I'm also convinced I don't see all the tracker admin options | 18:14 |
| flocculant | 6 tabs including the empty summary one | 18:14 |
| wxl | yeah i'm clueless here balloons | 18:15 |
| wxl | or maybe mine is set right? | 18:16 |
| wxl | here's the testsuites associated with xenial http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/series/56/testsuites | 18:16 |
| wxl | also fwiw someone needs to edit the contacts for kubuntu :/ | 18:17 |
| flocculant | how do you get that view? | 18:18 |
| wxl | flocculant: main tracker page; click on testsuites in the xenial section | 18:18 |
| flocculant | oic - that's just the list of all the tests that people see | 18:20 |
| flocculant | was looking at admin stuff | 18:20 |
| balloons | wxl, http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/products/218/testsuites | 18:21 |
| balloons | wxl, it's something you can always change, but it's been done for everyone each cycle, so I don't see why we'd change now | 18:21 |
| wxl | okie dokie. thanks balloons | 18:21 |
| balloons | I trust at times you have changed your testsuite :-) | 18:21 |
| wxl | not in a while! | 18:22 |
| flocculant | balloons: I get The resource you tried to access doesn't exist. for that | 18:23 |
| balloons | flocculant, yep, it's wx's | 18:24 |
| balloons | you would have to manage your own | 18:24 |
| wxl | ok now i can go back to my regular work | 18:24 |
| wxl | thanks all :) | 18:24 |
| balloons | flocculant, like http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/admin/config/services/qatracker/products/40/testsuites | 18:24 |
| flocculant | I try - but I can never find the manual :p | 18:24 |
| balloons | wxl, btw, any lubuntu sessions happening for uos"? | 18:24 |
| wxl | balloons: i haven't had time to arrange anything yet. if we did anything, it might be a planning session, but we're pretty good about communication throughout the team and working through emails/irc/etc, so that may not be too useful | 18:25 |
| wxl | balloons: as far as show and tell sort of stuff is concerned, i think we'll plan on doing one for 16.10 as that's when we hope to release lxqt | 18:26 |
| flocculant | balloons: so mine are set up? | 18:26 |
| balloons | wxl, ok. Always nice to see something | 18:26 |
| balloons | flocculant, I think they might all be yes | 18:26 |
| wxl | balloons: is flexiondotorg doing one on his pi2 images? | 18:26 |
| flocculant | cos I thought I'd done what was needed | 18:26 |
| balloons | wxl, yes | 18:26 |
| wxl | balloons: good, because otherwise i'd do one for him XD | 18:27 |
| balloons | wxl, :-) SHowing up in support is a good idea then too | 18:27 |
| wxl | yep | 18:27 |
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| flocculant | balloons: so why do I only have 32 bit stuff - or am I now just waiting for something to finish cooking? | 18:29 |
| balloons | flocculant, you have testsuites set for amd64 and i386 | 18:30 |
| balloons | flocculant, we need an upgrade from trusty testcase ;-) | 18:32 |
| flocculant | k - I looked in the manual but couldn't find that :( | 18:32 |
| flocculant | balloons: where abouts :P | 18:32 |
| flocculant | there really should be something written down about this :p | 18:34 |
| balloons | found'em. http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1636/info and http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1635/info | 18:34 |
| flocculant | right | 18:36 |
| flocculant | balloons: really - how to set the isotracker up for flavours - assuming flavours can turn stuff one - should be documented somewhere | 18:37 |
| flocculant | mostly I just worked along clicking things and hoping for the best :[ | 18:38 |
| flocculant | :p | 18:38 |
| balloons | I remember there was an admin guide on the wiki | 19:20 |
| balloons | but I never can find it | 19:20 |
| balloons | it's like 3 tabs you can see | 19:20 |
| balloons | I think, right | 19:20 |
| balloons | ?? | 19:20 |
| flocculant | I can see 5 useful ones | 19:21 |
| flocculant | I managed to beat it into submission now :) | 19:22 |
| flocculant | core had no testcases in it | 19:22 |
| flocculant | Pharmasolin: re Orca, if you're not sure then leave it - someone else will pick it up :) | 19:37 |
| knome | balloons, like 7 for me... | 20:14 |
| flocculant | which is why I wonder what's up with all that | 20:27 |
| flocculant | nuclearbob: hey - so I always feel bad about asking cos I can't do anything to actually help - but what's the status/prognosis on the jenkins for flavour effort? | 22:33 |
| flocculant | unless you're still not too good | 22:33 |
| flocculant | I do read the backlog ;) | 22:33 |
| flocculant | cyphermox: who's the best person to talk to about how apport works? | 23:37 |
| flocculant | I'm confused as to why when it gets turned on the crashdb.conf gains a # | 23:38 |
| flocculant | also we tell people to add Crash to ‘problem_types’: [‘Bug’, ‘Package’] so we see them | 23:39 |
| flocculant | and not cyphermox at all - but anyone in ubuntu-qa - what real reason is there for not being able to ubuntu-bug foo when you've a PPA? | 23:40 |
| flocculant | because some teams like us, have official PPAs which we use to test fixes out in - and having to have bizarre bug reporting doesn't help us at all | 23:41 |
| flocculant | balloons: I'm assuming that qa-team does ping them still? | 23:42 |
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