[00:00] <odenkirk> I'd like to know if I have somehow been hacked.  and if so, what exactly I can do to trace what they accessed
[00:02] <pbx> odenkirk, please give lots of context.  what exactly happened and when, what ubuntu version you're running, what you've done in response. in the (unlikely) event that your machine has been compromised it is very unlikely there will be a trail that tells you what data has been read.
[00:02] <odenkirk> pbx,
[00:02] <django_> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12994799/
[00:02] <django_> still doesnt work
[00:02] <odenkirk> pbx, one sec
[00:04] <odenkirk> i was logging into my system via ssh and noticed the last login in info was android-xxxxxxxxxxxxx.home
[00:04] <odenkirk> that is all really
[00:05] <odenkirk> my ubuntu version 14.04
[00:06] <odenkirk> pbx, I am started reading online about hacking and securing your system.  but I am new to all of this.
[00:06] <django_> Im gonna try: bcdedit /set {bootmgr} path \EFI\ubuntu\shimx64.efi
[00:06] <django_> brb
[00:07] <odenkirk> pbx, I just got really pissed that there's a possibility
[00:08] <odenkirk> that i someone accessed my machine and I can't trace out it is and hit them back
[00:08] <odenkirk> pbx *that someone accessed my machine and I can't trace out it is and hit them back
[00:09] <pbx> odenkirk, can you pastebin the exact message you receive when you log in? (obfuscating whatever details you like).  e.g. mine is: http://dpaste.com/2PX2FM0
[00:09] <pbx> odenkirk, if you believe your machine has been compromised your first priority should be lockdown, not revenge
[00:10] <odenkirk> ok, yeah.
[00:10] <odenkirk> got it.  just really pissed is all
[00:11] <f4Nm1Z9k2P> odenkirk, the command "last" gives you more detailled statistics about the most recent logins. As the "attackers" ip-adress is resolved to the name "android-xxxx.home" the attacke seems to use an android phone
[00:12] <daftykins> from the same network too :P
[00:13] <daftykins> odenkirk: sure you didn't excitedly test an SSH client on your own android smartphone?
[00:13] <f4Nm1Z9k2P> Sorry, forgot to mention that... Maybe your Router just got a little confused about all these ip-addresses and gave your PC an outdated hostname
[00:13] <daftykins> unlikely
[00:14] <odenkirk> ok, @f4Nm1Z9k2P, i read some stuff about the router and using android-xxxxx.home.  @daftykins, i don't have an android.
[00:15] <daftykins> someone's been on your network at some point with an android device, the .home suffix suggests they were on your own wifi
[00:16] <django_> k1l_: works D
[00:16] <django_> :D
[00:16] <django_> tyvm!!!
[00:17] <odenkirk> @f4Nm1Z9k2P, how can i check the router did this?  @daftykins, what do i do to trace them back and secure for the future?
[00:19] <daftykins> odenkirk: i think conclusions are still being greatly jumped to, plus this query might be more relevant in ##networking
[00:20] <daftykins> odenkirk: secure for the future? ensure all passwords are different and sane
[00:20] <daftykins> (i.e. change existing)
[00:23] <odenkirk> daftykins, got it.    thanks.  any pointers on securing going forward
[00:24] <f4Nm1Z9k2P> @odenkirk: The IP-hostname mapping in your router is not static for the .home-domain. Maybe your router still has this information saved (ask your router's management interface or try "dig android-xxxxxx.home")
[00:24] <goddard> what is an easy way to put applications into their own environment like for example playonlinux and its applications?
[00:25] <daftykins> odenkirk: best guess, rubbish password on an account... check your history to see if any commands got run. lock down your wifi, remember the android hostname as it'll be unique to a tablet or phone... etc.
[00:25] <daftykins> goddard: you mean like a jail or chroot?
[00:26] <goddard> daftykins: not sure i have never tried to improve security on WINE apps
[00:26] <daftykins> here's a great suggestion, don't play games somewhere you do serious work (if you even do)
[00:27] <goddard> daftykins: playonlinux is for more then just games buddy
[00:27] <daftykins> i know.
[00:27] <daftykins> look where i am giving help :)
[00:28] <goddard> haha
[00:28] <odenkirk> @f4Nm1Z9k2P, thanks for the pointers
[00:28] <odenkirk> @daftykins, thanks for the pointers
[00:28] <f4Nm1Z9k2P> You're welcome
[00:29] <hackal> Hello, I need to get list of installed packages. "apt list --installed" this command does exactly what I need but there are so many packages installed that when I scroll in my console it won't show the first half of them. Is there a way to save output of the command to some kind of log file?
[00:30] <wad> Hi folks. I'm a laptop set up for my kids to use, and their instructions are to only boot to Windows for games. Everything else, boot to Ubuntu. (This prevents 99.999% of viruses and malware from destroying the OS.)
[00:30] <wad> But the grub menu has like 14 entries. Buried near the bottom of the Windows one.
[00:30] <daftykins> doesn't stop kids being kids, but i'm sure you're a human since you are typing right now
[00:30] <epsilon1> apt list --installed > installed.txt
[00:31] <wad> I googled and googled, and all I can find are ancient answers on how to remove unneeded entries.
[00:31] <epsilon1> hackal, add the > installed.txt after your command. it will save stdout to the file you specify.
[00:31] <daftykins> wad: are you saying you have oodles of ubuntu entries?
[00:31] <Sachiru> So it seems that 15.10 will have ZFSOnLinux as part of the repos.
[00:31] <wad> Looking at /boot/grub/grub.cfg, it says not to edit it.
[00:31] <daftykins> yes, don't
[00:31] <wad> I've got oodles of ubuntu stuff, and oodles of Windows crap.
[00:31] <Sachiru> I guess they found a way to let Ubuntu's root reside on ZFS?
[00:32] <wad> So I'm in /etc/default/grub
[00:32] <daftykins> wad: well, step #1 would be "dpkg -l | grep linux-" on the ubuntu install, maybe tonnes of old kernels to purge (sudo apt-get autoremove will get some)
[00:32] <hackal> epsilon1: thanks that worked
[00:32] <wad> daftykins, yeah, I do that from time to time.
[00:32] <epsilon1> hackal, no problem. :)
[00:32] <wad> I'll do it again right now.
[00:32] <daftykins> wad: but grub should only have Ubuntu, advanced options, then 'windows loader on /dev/blah'
[00:32] <wad> (I'm typing this on a different PC, by the way.)
[00:33] <wad> I'll reboot and take a screenshot. 1 sec.
[00:33] <epsilon1> hackal, if you want to scroll up/down through the list
[00:33] <epsilon1> "less installed.txt"
[00:33] <epsilon1> that will give you an interface like a man page, where you can use the arrow keys to scroll up/down
[00:34] <epsilon1> hackal, you can even skip the file that way and do, apt list --installed | less
[00:36] <inf_user> so, any admins here? I'm just transitioning from windows to Linux. Only been using Ubuntu for a few months now, no command line.
[00:36] <mjayk> inf_user: just ask a question if anyone can help they will :)
[00:37] <inf_user> i'm up against a few tasks, like "setup and configure an FTP server using Apache..." which I understand WHAT but not HOW
[00:37] <wad> daftykins, sorry, the photo is huge. Didn't gimp it: http://wadhome.org/~wad/files/grub.jpg
[00:37] <daftykins> inf_user: what has created these tasks? i can tell you straight off FTP is a mistake
[00:38] <inf_user> purposes of illustrating having learned Linux commands and using server side tasks
[00:38] <daftykins> wad: maybe you can get away with a manual edit of /etc/default/grub then - i'd keep a backup of the original though
[00:38] <daftykins> inf_user: so your homework, basically?
[00:38] <wad> I did that already. :)
[00:38] <inf_user> job offer
[00:38] <wad> I mean, make a backup.
[00:38] <inf_user> but basically
[00:38] <daftykins> inf_user: ah the ol' deception routine :)
[00:38] <inf_user> lol
[00:39] <daftykins> so what step are you stuck on? you really shouldn't go for a Linux admin job if you don't have a clue at the command line
[00:39] <epsilon1> inf_user, bad idea. once they find out you wiggled your way through the cracks, they will be upset.
[00:39] <epsilon1> and your reputation will take a hit, whether or not you are actually good at something.
[00:39] <daftykins> ^ +1
[00:39] <inf_user> it's not an admin job. it's Cust Support low level. which I have in spades...
[00:39] <mjayk> inf_user: best pick up a book or have a read through some wikis, and get used to the command line
[00:39] <daftykins> in which case being asked to do the above doesn't match up, so now you're deceiving us :)
[00:39] <inf_user> I'm in the process
[00:39] <wbill>  hello i have ffmpeg lame sox mplayer ezstream perl wget and im trying for days now to get stdin or a file made form the output of my line on my usb soundcard to work so i can semi(via a .mp3 or.wav file if need be) live stream it to the internet any suggestions/examples i can try anyone...
[00:40] <inf_user> I'm not deceiving, just asking for good wikis and youtubes
[00:40] <inf_user> or command line cheat sheets
[00:40] <epsilon1> inf_user, the ubuntu documentation
[00:40] <inf_user> anyone?
[00:40]  * wileee hums impossible dream
[00:40] <inf_user> for the linux side?
[00:40] <epsilon1> help.ubuntu.com
[00:40] <daftykins> inf_user: nope, plenty of resources online. i'd even suggest doing the free course LFS101x on edx.org to learn some.
[00:40] <mjayk> inf_user: ubuntu wiki is a good place to start or the arch wiki
[00:40] <epsilon1> daftykins, +1 on edx
[00:41] <wad> inf_user, seriously, read this book, cover to cover: http://www.amazon.com/UNIX-Linux-System-Administration-Handbook/dp/0131480057/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1446079224&sr=8-1&keywords=linux+system+administration+handbook
[00:41] <inf_user> edx.org? ok
[00:41] <daftykins> yep free linux intro course
[00:41] <inf_user> the Big Black  Book?
[00:41] <epsilon1> arch is definitely a superior distribution for learning quickly.
[00:41] <inf_user> or the admin book?
[00:41] <inf_user> what about Centos?
[00:41] <mjayk> inf_user: depends what you want to use it for
[00:41] <inf_user> **sorry, CentOS
[00:41] <epsilon1> centos is industry standard.
[00:41] <daftykins> you're in an #ubuntu channel, that means Ubuntu.
[00:41] <dhamilt9> Hey all!  I'm trying to get Ubuntu to recognize my Wacom tablet!  When I open the Wacom Tablet settings in the control panel, it says "No Tablet Detected", although I can control the mouse with the pen/tablet.  I've tried following directions here: http://matthewwittering.com/blog/ubuntu-tips/how-to-install-a-wacom-intuos-ctl-480-tablet-on-ubuntu.h
[00:41] <dhamilt9> tml, but I'm running into package errors when I try to configure
[00:41] <inf_user> yeah, I'm running Ubuntu on this laptop
[00:41] <daftykins> inf_user: you want another distro, you go chat in their channel - or ask in #linux for them all.
[00:41] <epsilon1> well, not industry standard but a lot of companies use it.
[00:42] <inf_user> ok, thanks guys!
[00:42] <epsilon1> but if you want to learn ubuntu
[00:42] <epsilon1> help.ubuntu.com
[00:42] <wad> Our servers at work are all cenos, but most of us engineers use Ubuntu.
[00:42] <inf_user> bossawesome!
[00:42] <wad> s/cenos/centos/
[00:42] <dhamilt9> Getting No package 'xorg-server' found
[00:42] <wad> Well, most of us who use linux. Most actually use macs.
[00:42] <dhamilt9> as well as No package 'randrproto' found
[00:43] <daftykins> that'll be because there's no package called that.
[00:43] <dhamilt9> Right, I figured that
[00:43] <daftykins> and yet you're not asking what to do to find one :)
[00:43] <dhamilt9> I've tried installing those packages with apt-get, but I get "unable to locate package"
[00:43] <daftykins> sudo apt-get update && apt-cache search randr
[00:43] <daftykins> yeah because they're not their names
[00:49] <dhamilt9> ok, so I got the randrproto error cleared up, but I'm still getting "No package 'xorg-server' found.  I tried installing xorg-server-source and xorg-server-source-lts-trusty, but no dice there
[00:49] <daftykins> dhamilt9: the thing is, the guide you linked doesn't say to do anything with either of those?
[00:51] <syco_> hi all
[00:51] <daftykins> greetings
[00:51] <dhamilt9> daftykins: unfortunately not, neither are mentioned
[00:52] <dhamilt9> it assumes ./configure will work with no errors
[00:52] <daftykins> dhamilt9: what's driving you to attempt their configuration then?
[00:52] <syco_> i have a problem with firefox: doesn't seem to take /etc/hosts into account. konqueror and links2 work fine but not FF (goes to google) /etc/host.conf and nsswitch are ok
[00:52] <daftykins> i think compiling another module from source is a risky approach
[00:52] <daftykins> dhamilt9: for example, what release did you install?
[00:53] <daftykins> syco_: in its' proxy config, is it set to 'no proxy' or 'auto detect' ?
[00:53] <daftykins> Pinka621: _four_ clones join at once?
[00:54] <dhamilt9> I'm on ubuntu 14.04
[00:54] <Pinka621> sorry i just started using smuxi and I guess its not working too well
[00:54] <Pinka621> it does that arter suspend/resume
[00:55] <Pinka621> after*
[00:55] <daftykins> dhamilt9: http://askubuntu.com/questions/368242/wacom-graphics-tablet-cth-480-ctl-480-not-detected-in-ubuntu-13-10
[00:56] <syco_> daftykins, i just reset it to 'no proxy' but still the same
[00:56] <daftykins> syco_: so you're testing putting in a domain to point to localhost and seeing if it dies?
[00:57] <syco_> yep, i'm settin up an apache2 name-based vhost on 127.0.0.1
[00:58] <dhamilt9> daftykins: I unplugged the tablet and ran sudo modprobe wacom as recommended in that link, but it doesn't appear to have any effect.  You think a reboot before running the command would help?
[00:58] <daftykins> dhamilt9: depends if any guides you've followed so far have ruined that
[00:58] <syco_>  /etc/hosts is on (links2 and konqueror react normally, it's just FF)
[00:58] <syco_> s/on/ok
[00:59] <daftykins> syco_: hmm weird, i think there's a firefox or mozilla channel here on freenode - those folks might know more
[00:59] <dhamilt9> I'd say that's probable.  Oh well, thanks for the help anyway!
[00:59] <syco_> ok, thx
[00:59] <daftykins> dhamilt9: best test would be boot a live session and try
[00:59] <dhamilt9> word, thanks, I'll give that a shot!
[01:02] <syco_> ok, solved: about:config -> keyword.enabled -> false
[01:03] <daftykins> hrmm, odd
[01:04] <syco_> yep ... didn't behave like that in the past
[01:04] <Guest13893> I am now using a live xubuntu session with usb, I want to copy everything even hiding folders and files and settings, from /home to usb flash drive, like i said copy everything from /home to a zip file on my usb flash drive, it has fat 32 because i need it for use in windows, it is the same that i use now for the live session, what should i type in the terminal to do so?
[01:04] <daftykins> wow you're still here
[01:04] <Guest13893> please help?
[01:05] <daftykins> Guest13893: between now and earlier, did you even try to lookup how to use 'tar' ?
[01:05] <daftykins> what progress have you made?
[01:05] <wbill> hello again i am having issues with apt-get it will not let me install anuthing period im on 12.03 and have tried for days to get it to install does anyone have any help to offer here is the latest try and i noticed whe it tried to install vim it got correupted so here is that: http://pastebin.com/HvkRf15m error,etc..
[01:05] <Guest13893> i do not understand how tu use it
[01:06] <Guest13893> i do not understand how to use it
[01:06] <daftykins> Guest13893: are you familiar with search engines? here's result #1 from one: http://askubuntu.com/questions/225865/copy-files-without-losing-file-folder-permissions
[01:06] <wbill> i consistently get this error from dpkg : E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:06] <syco_> Guest13893, tar -zcpvf /media/my_usb/backup.tgz /home/my_user
[01:08] <daftykins> wbill: delete the corrupt path mentioned (or move it as a backup) then re-run the command.
[01:08] <wbill> how do i delete it
[01:08] <wbill> i know apt-get install thats about it
[01:09] <wbill> i know howto compile from source also
[01:09] <daftykins> sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/vim ~/ && sudo apt-get -f install
[01:09] <daftykins> well that doesn't apply right now :P
[01:09] <Guest13893> syco_ /home to usb stick
[01:09] <Guest13893> syco_ will this work on fat 32
[01:10] <daftykins> Guest13893: that is not a valid question according to the english language.
[01:10] <daftykins> Guest13893: stop second guessing advice you've given, you were told to use it - so use it.
[01:10] <mjayk> wbill: do you mean 12.04
[01:10] <wbill> here is the output
[01:10] <wbill> http://pastebin.com/MAKZk6FQ
[01:11] <wbill> uhh yea
[01:11] <wbill> whats the command to tell yours exact version again
[01:11] <daftykins> wbill: same for vimdiff
[01:11] <daftykins> cat /etc/issue & lsb_release -a
[01:12] <Sachiru> Hmm.
[01:12] <Guest13893> syco_ you mean tar -zcpvf /home/my_user /media/my_usb/backup.tgz
[01:12] <Sachiru> KVM suspend commits current VM state to disk, correct?
[01:12] <Sachiru> How long does it usually take for KVM to fully suspend a VM?
[01:12] <Guest13893> syco_ you mean tar -zcpvf /home /media/my_usb/backup.tgz
[01:13] <Guest13893> syco_ but witch one is the usb
[01:14] <wbill> Linaro 12.03 \n \l
[01:14] <daftykins> Guest13893: the clue is it contains "my_usb" in the example path name, those aren't literal paths... you have to compare it on your system
[01:14] <daftykins> wbill: sorry you can't ask for help for anything that isn't ubuntu.
[01:14] <Guest13893> daftykins ok
[01:14] <Guest13893> daftykins how
[01:14] <syco_> nope -f stands for the file to be created thus tar -zcpvf file_to_create.tgz /files/to/backup
[01:14] <daftykins> Guest13893: you're determined not to learn anything tonight are you?
[01:15] <daftykins> *aren't
[01:15] <wbill> daftykins im on ubuntu
[01:15] <daftykins> wbill: no, you're on Linaro.
[01:15] <Guest13893> daftykins i dont understand where the usb stick is
[01:15] <wbill> funny says ubuntu
[01:16] <syco_> Guest13893, i suggest you RTFM the tar cammand :p
[01:16] <daftykins> wbill: even when you come in here and paste Linaro 12.03 \n \l
[01:16] <wbill> the package manger is the same
[01:16] <Guest13893> daftykins where is the location
[01:16] <daftykins> wbill: sorry, not ubuntu means no ubuntu support.
[01:16] <daftykins> !alis | wbill find a channel maybe
[01:16] <daftykins> wbill: anyway i already told you what to do.
[01:17] <Guest13893> syco_ what do you mean
[01:17] <wbill> and all i got with your suggestion is the error i posted in pastein
[01:17] <daftykins> Guest13893: type "sudo parted -l" in a terminal, you should see a device which is the size of your flash drive - e.g. 8GB = 8000MB or thereabouts. now type "mount" in a terminal, see where it's already mounted.
[01:18] <daftykins> wbill: i said repeat my original command now with vimdiff .
[01:18] <wbill> give an example please i dont use vimdif
[01:19] <daftykins> wbill: the command i told you to run, before your last pastebin... do it again... but with vimdiff.
[01:19] <lvanderpool> hey folks, i need some help. i had an ubuntu 14.04 install that got fubar'd. It results ina  kernel panic on startup now. So I tried to reinstall the OS with a USB bootloader. I verified the bootloader works on another computer.
[01:20] <lvanderpool> But when I start up the computer, the GRUB loading screen doesn't show any options related to the bootloader, and any option I do choose leads to the same kernel panic
[01:20] <lvanderpool> I checked my BIOS settings and the removable drive is the first priority for boot.
[01:20] <wbill> sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/vim ~/ && sudo apt-get -f install where does vimdiff go
[01:20] <daftykins> lvanderpool: reinstall properly.
[01:20] <lvanderpool> daftykins:  how's that?
[01:20] <syco_> Guest13893, try: mount | grep media
[01:20] <syco_> you should find your usb
[01:20] <lvanderpool> daftykins: i hope you understand how unhelpful that comment is
[01:20] <daftykins> wbill: you really can't spot the theme between last time and this time huh? what looks like vimdiff...
[01:20] <Guest13893> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12995765/
[01:21] <daftykins> lvanderpool: well, why waste time when you could do it right from scratch?
[01:21] <lvanderpool> daftykins:  that's what I'm trying to do is reinstall, but I just outlined what's not working with it.
[01:21] <lvanderpool> I don't know what you mean by 'properly'
[01:21] <lvanderpool> i have a usb stick with the ubuntu bootloader, the same way i've always installed ubuntu
[01:21] <daftykins> lvanderpool: is ubuntu to be the only OS?
[01:21] <lvanderpool> daftykins:  yes
[01:22] <lvanderpool> at least for the forseeable future
[01:22] <daftykins> that's not a bootloader, that's an ubuntu live session ISO on a flash drive.
[01:22] <lvanderpool> it's a bootable USB stick
[01:22] <daftykins> lvanderpool: are you in the live session on the target system right now?
[01:22] <Guest13893> syco_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/12995782/
[01:22] <lvanderpool> no ic an't get to the live session
[01:22] <daftykins> Guest13893: ok and what did you learn from the pastebin you made? what drive is which?
[01:22] <lvanderpool> GRUB doesn't give me the option for it
[01:23] <daftykins> lvanderpool: you don't use GRUB to boot the live session, you use your system BIOS to boot the flash drive directly at which point the live session starts.
[01:23] <lvanderpool> like i said in my original post
[01:23] <lvanderpool> I did exactly that
[01:23] <lvanderpool> and it doesn't get there
[01:23] <daftykins> Guest13893: don't ask two people for the same thing at the same time, be patient.
[01:23] <lvanderpool> it goes to the GRUB screen
[01:23] <lvanderpool> where I can choose between Ubuntu, Advanced options for Ubuntu, and the two Memtest options.
[01:24] <daftykins> lvanderpool: so your BIOS is misconfigured / try another USB port.
[01:24] <wbill> ok here is my try daftykins http://pastebin.com/Uda248a9
[01:24] <syco_> Guest13893, so i guess your usb drive is in /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10
[01:24] <daftykins> wbill: and can you spot the theme developing?
[01:24] <lvanderpool> daftykins: what configurationw ould be required int he bios? I checked the boot priority
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[01:25] <daftykins> lvanderpool: sometimes a single key can be pressed to launch a boot menu instead, what brand is this system?
[01:25] <wbill> im lost what theme?
[01:26] <lvanderpool> daftykins: not sure what your'e referring to, it's an ASUS mobo if that's what you mean
[01:26] <daftykins> wbill: the commands i've been giving you relate to the files which come up as being corrupted... you see that right?
[01:26] <daftykins> lvanderpool: yes, so F8 is the boot menu key.
[01:26] <Guest13893> syco_ /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10 type ext3 this is the hdd?
[01:26] <wbill> ok and?
[01:27] <wbill> i tried purge
[01:27] <daftykins> wbill: notice how the commands i've been telling you to run *refer* to the file that we're told is corrupted?
[01:27] <syco_> i suppose it's your USB since it's mounted in /media
[01:27] <syco_> just go look inside
[01:27] <wbill> sudo apt-get purge vim
[01:27] <daftykins> _no_
[01:27] <wbill> just gives me an error again
[01:28] <wbill> ok
[01:28] <daftykins> wbill: ok i'm sorry, but you are not a good student. go find a channel for whatever Linux this is, seems to be for ARM devices.
[01:28] <Guest13893> syco_ but i am also using it as a live session the usb i mean?
[01:29] <syco_> better backup on another media
[01:29] <daftykins> syco_: i think if we don't just get a tar made and put on this flash drive you and me will be old and grey by the time we're let free of this
[01:29] <daftykins> Guest13893: pastebin "mount" on its' own
[01:30] <syco_> daftykins, hehe that's possible :)
[01:30] <lvanderpool> daftykins:  thanks that last bit did it
[01:31] <daftykins> hurrah
[01:31] <wbill> look daftykins if you don't know how to fix it just say, being cryptic is not helping, but im on ubuntu 12.04 i just pasted from the wrong window, all this wasted time and pastebins on someone who is so biased
[01:31] <daftykins> wbill: i'm trying to help you to help yourself, you just seem to have the intellect of two short planks of wood.
[01:31] <daftykins> wbill: as hilarious as reverse psychology is, i went out on a limb to help you when you're not even running ubuntu... so just go find a channel for that distro and do us all a favour, ok?
[01:32] <pbx>  easy now
[01:33] <daftykins> wbill: look they even have a site telling you where their IRC Help is: https://www.linaro.org/contact/irc/
[01:33] <JessicaJung_> !acitve
[01:33] <JessicaJung_> !active
[01:33] <Guest13893> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12995925/
[01:33] <wbill> maybe you need to take a look in the mirror trying to make yourself look magnanimous  doesn't cut it and i am running ubuntu i just said 12.04
[01:33] <daftykins> JessicaJung_: what are you after?
[01:33] <daftykins> wbill: deception will not get you any help. ask in the proper place.
[01:33] <JessicaJung_> !active
[01:34] <wbill> wow if your having a bad night dont take it out on me
[01:35] <daftykins> no idea where you're coming up with these odd comments, you're not running the right distro and can't work out my obvious hints - so go somewhere relevant :)
[01:35] <Guest13893> syco_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/12995925/
[01:35] <Guest13893> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12995925/
[01:35] <daftykins> Guest13893: "sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda7 /mnt && ls /mnt" <-- pastebin that.
[01:35] <daftykins> Guest13893: yes i saw it the first time, apply some *patience*
[01:36] <CharlesMax> i’m having trouble getting ubuntu working on a machine with GeForce GTX 80
[01:36] <CharlesMax> sorry 980
[01:36] <daftykins> CharlesMax: blank screen at boot?
[01:36] <CharlesMax> no
[01:36] <daftykins> details then please
[01:36] <CharlesMax> I get “failed to apply ACL on /dev/dri/card0”
[01:36] <daftykins> when doing what?
[01:36] <wbill> hello im not linaro with this issue that paste was from my minipc window, this issue is on my main ubuntu i have 2 a 12.04 and a 15.0? something geez get over it
[01:37] <daftykins> also, which ubuntu?
[01:37] <syco_> Guest13893, tar -zcpv /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/backup.tgz /home/insert_user_name_here
[01:37] <daftykins> wbill: the thing to get over here, is your own incompetence. goodbye.
[01:37] <CharlesMax> I followed the instructions on http://askubuntu.com/questions/301648/how-to-install-nvidia-driver-in-ubuntu
[01:37] <CharlesMax> after “preparation”
[01:37] <daftykins> syco_: yeah the drive with the home isn't mounted yet.
[01:38] <syco_> argh
[01:38] <CharlesMax> ubutun 14.04.3 LTS
[01:38] <Guest13893> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12995987/
[01:38] <daftykins> CharlesMax: all of this is wrong, have you installed anything yet?
[01:39] <CharlesMax> ubuntu was working at first
[01:39] <CharlesMax> but without the geforce gtx 980 in all its force
[01:39] <CharlesMax> then i followed those instructions
[01:39] <CharlesMax> now I can’t log in
[01:39] <daftykins> CharlesMax: still got a flash drive with ubuntu on?
[01:39] <CharlesMax> i get to the login screen, type in my password, it goes to a black screen with the error message reported above, then goes back to the login screen
[01:39] <CharlesMax> no
[01:39] <CharlesMax> ubuntu was installed
[01:39] <CharlesMax> flash drive is out
[01:40] <CharlesMax> oh sorry
[01:40] <daftykins> Guest13893: sudo mkdir /mnt2 && sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda6 /mnt2 && ls /mnt2" in a pastebin
[01:40] <CharlesMax> i still have the flash drive, yes
[01:40] <daftykins> CharlesMax: done much with the install since putting it on, or was this graphics driver angle the first thing you worked on?
[01:40] <Guest13893> syco_ tar -zcpv /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/backup.tgz /home/insert_user_name_here                        is the first from and the last to the location?
[01:41] <CharlesMax> did nothing else
[01:41] <CharlesMax> right, first thing
[01:41] <daftykins> Guest13893: syco_ left, so no point you trying to hassle two people at once anymore. stay with me.
[01:41] <daftykins> CharlesMax: well you could either mess around booting the recovery session to fix it up, or just clean install again and we'll start from a working position - up to you
[01:42] <daftykins> !recovery
[01:42] <CharlesMax> i’m fine with clean install
[01:42] <daftykins> okie dokie, see you back in a bit then
[01:44] <Guest13893> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12996051/                the debian file i can remove it i dont need it but i dont now to?
[01:44] <daftykins> Guest13893: were those some usernames your install had? 'ibm' and 'test' ?
[01:46] <Guest13893> daftykins yes on the hdd not the live session
[01:46] <daftykins> that's obvious because a live session doesn't really have users.
[01:46] <daftykins> so which one are you backing up?
[01:46] <Guest13893> daftykins the hdd of course
[01:46] <daftykins> WHICH USER
[01:47] <CharlesMax> daftykins, thanks for helping. Is there anything I should avoid during clean install, e.g. “install third party software”, or does it not matter
[01:47] <Guest13893> daftykins not the usb it is already in it
[01:47] <daftykins> Guest13893: which. user. are you. backing up?
[01:48] <Guest13893> daftykins everything in the /home
[01:48] <daftykins> Guest13893: but there are multiple users... so which one matters?
[01:48] <daftykins> CharlesMax: i'd personally avoid 3rd party software for now - and install with updates would be down to your internet connection speed
[01:48] <Guest13893> daftykins all but not the debian file
[01:49] <Guest13893> daftykins how can i delete it from the /home
[01:49] <daftykins> it doesn't matter right now.
[01:51] <Guest13893> daftykins the whole /home is less than 1 gb
[01:51] <daftykins> Guest13893: i know, because of the partition sizes before - and because this drive is 40GB. why'd you feel it necessary to tell me?
[01:51] <daftykins> Guest13893: tar -zcpvf /mnt/ibm.tar /mnt2/ibm
[01:52] <daftykins> Guest13893: tar -zcpvf /mnt/test.tar /mnt2/test
[01:53] <daftykins> Guest13893: now, it's unlikely you'll be able to write to the flash drive whilst it's being used for the live session, so put them on the Windows partition for now, boot back into that then copy them onto the flash drive from there ok?
[01:53] <daftykins> Guest13893: sudo mkdir /mnt3 && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt3 && sudo cp /mnt2/*.tar /mnt3/
[01:53] <Guest13893> daftykins i need to do it on windows partition
[01:54] <daftykins> do what
[01:54] <cfhowlett> daftykins, filesystem>media>cdrom allows access to read/write files on the stick during live session
[01:54] <nAn00k> how do i install ubuntu ion windows 7?
[01:54] <nAn00k> on
[01:54] <nAn00k> ???
[01:54] <mjayk> nAn00k: you dont install ubuntu on windows
[01:54] <daftykins> nAn00k: 'on' you don't, you could install virtualbox and create a virtual machine to install it _in_
[01:54] <cfhowlett> daftykins, or is it filesystem>device>cdrom?  anyway; do able.
[01:55] <nAn00k> ok? my friend did on his dell?
[01:55] <daftykins> Guest13893: also, you originally claimed this needed to be done this way due to restoring from a recovery partition, it's clear this disk doesn't have any of it
[01:55] <Guest13893> daftykins because windows did something to the xubuntu startup
[01:55] <cfhowlett> nAn00k, that method is highly unstable and absolutely unsupported and not recommended.
[01:55] <nAn00k> whats BSD?
[01:55] <daftykins> nAn00k: another OS which isn't on topic here.
[01:55] <cfhowlett> nAn00k, it's an OS>  google it.
[01:55] <daftykins> cfhowlett: hmm could remount read-write i guess
[01:56] <daftykins> Guest13893: did you run the two tar commands and my third one yet?
[01:56] <Guest13893> daftykins but you said to the hdd and not usb?
[01:56] <nAn00k> okay where can i buy a ubuntu computer?
[01:56] <nAn00k> bestbuy?
[01:56] <daftykins> Guest13893: just do it.
[01:57] <Guest13893> daftykins ok how the lines are not there
[01:57] <daftykins> "the lines" ?
[01:57] <daftykins> scroll up.
[01:58] <Guest13893> daftykins yes in irc
[01:58] <daftykins> scroll up.
[01:58] <CharlesMax> hm, i reboot and end up in grub
[01:58] <CharlesMax> that didn’t happen last time
[01:58] <daftykins> CharlesMax: what does it say, "grub >" or ?
[01:58] <CharlesMax> >
[01:58] <Guest13893> daftykins the are not up there
[01:59] <daftykins> yes, yes they are.
[01:59] <daftykins> tar -zcpvf /mnt/ibm.tar /mnt2/ibm
[01:59] <daftykins> tar -zcpvf /mnt/test.tar /mnt2/test
[01:59] <daftykins> sudo mkdir /mnt3 && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt3 && sudo cp /mnt2/*.tar /mnt3/
[01:59] <daftykins> Guest13893: those three ^ right now.
[02:00] <Guest13893> daftykins but i want everything on /home
[02:01] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[02:01] <Guest13893> daftykins not only the users
[02:01] <ubuntu-mate> ...
[02:01] <daftykins> Guest13893: that _IS_ everything there.
[02:01] <ubuntu-mate> #live-user
[02:01] <daftykins> ubuntu-mate: support question?
[02:01] <ubuntu-mate> my mind: #dev/null
[02:02] <Guest13893> daftykins no even heading files and folders and settings
[02:02] <daftykins> Guest13893: you have the only folders there are, the two users. i have told you want to do, now do it.
[02:02] <CharlesMax> ok, made it into ubuntu (following http://askubuntu.com/questions/159846/tried-to-boot-ubuntu-but-the-grub-rescue-shows-up-instead)
[02:02] <daftykins> *what to do
[02:02] <shack4> hey, can someone help me get my wireless card working on a lenovo u31 running ubuntu?
[02:03] <daftykins> CharlesMax: run enough from that to get it working correctly each boot now?
[02:03] <shack4> ubuntu 15.10
[02:03] <Guest13893> daftykins there is the recycled
[02:03] <mjayk> daftykins: a little bit of politness goes along way.
[02:03] <daftykins> Guest13893: waste of time most likely.
[02:03] <Guest74314> Guys.... I got ubuntu 6.66 IM SATAN BOW DOWN TO ME
[02:03] <Guest74314> HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[02:03] <Guest74314> HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[02:03] <Guest74314> HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[02:04] <Guest13893> daftykins why not all everything on /home
[02:04] <Guest74314> HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[02:04] <CharlesMax> rebooted, back in grub!
[02:04] <daftykins> Guest13893: because the others are trash folders
[02:04] <daftykins> not data.
[02:04] <CharlesMax> oh sorry, didn’t do last line, let me try again
[02:04] <cfhowlett> Guest74314, play elsewhere
[02:04] <Guest13893> daftykins and heading files and folders and settings
[02:05] <cfhowlett> !wifi | shack4,
[02:05] <Guest13893> daftykins that i do not see
[02:05] <daftykins> Guest13893: "heading files" is not a real thing
[02:05] <ParanoidMATEUser> i have ubuntu mate 15.04! i live in the year 1504
[02:05] <daftykins> Guest13893: i'm giving up now, you are wasting my time with these questions.
[02:06] <Guest13893> daftykins things i can not see
[02:06] <ParanoidMATEUser> ...
[02:06] <ParanoidMATEUser> ...
[02:06] <ParanoidMATEUser> ..
[02:06] <ParanoidMATEUser> .
[02:06] <daftykins> Guest13893: there are none.
[02:06] <daftykins> !ops | ParanoidMATEUser
[02:06] <Guest13893> daftykins is a real thing
[02:06] <cfhowlett> ParanoidMATEUser, stop
[02:06] <Guest13893> daftykins why not
[02:06] <daftykins> Guest13893: you are a troll.
[02:06] <Guest13893> daftykins the settings are
[02:07] <daftykins> Guest13893: no the settings are in the user folders, i already told you how to back them up and you're wasting time asking questions which don't matter.
[02:07] <daftykins> i am done.
[02:07]  * phunyguy looks up
[02:08] <ParanoidMATEUser> how to activate D-Bus interface
[02:10] <Guest13893> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12996356/
[02:11] <dupingping> There are some mags of Ubuntu at https://www.ubuntu-user.com/Magazine, If you bought them, please help me can see them. I could not buy the mags because my country have not paypal.
[02:11] <daftykins> Guest13893: put 'sudo' in front
[02:11] <cfhowlett> dupingping, www.fullcirclemagazine.com/downloads.   Completely free, available in China, and over 100 issues.
[02:12] <bindi> *** google-public-dns-a.google.com can't find www.fullcirclemagazine.com: Server failed
[02:13] <bindi> ? :|
[02:13] <cfhowlett> DOH!!!  www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads.   thanks bindi.  dupingping ^^
[02:14] <CharlesMax> ah finally, reshuffled boot options and now it boots into ubuntu
[02:14] <dupingping> cfhowlett, yes, i see.
[02:14] <dupingping> cfhowlett, thank you.
[02:16] <Guest13893> daftykins i did the first one
[02:16] <CharlesMax> don’t have ethernet wire, so following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx with No Internet Access to get wifi driver working (daftykins, just writing this in case you catch a big no no)
[02:16] <daftykins> Guest13893: sooo...?
[02:16] <Guest13893> daftykins ok i dont need the test user
[02:16] <daftykins> Guest13893: skip on to the other command then
[02:17] <daftykins> CharlesMax: oh ok, i've no idea on offline install. "lspci" to confirm the broadcom model though
[02:17] <wbill> does anyone know of a binary and where it resides for butt application used in broadcasting icecast/shoutcast servers for ubuntu 15.04
[02:19] <Guest13893> daftykins it@it:/$ sudo mkdir /mnt3 && sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt3 && sudo cp /mnt2/*.tar /mnt3/
[02:19] <Guest13893> mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/mnt3’: File exists
[02:19] <Guest13893> it@it:/$
[02:19] <daftykins> maybe it already exists
[02:19] <daftykins> so skip onto the next bit;
[02:20] <daftykins>  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt3 && sudo cp /mnt2/*.tar /mnt3/
[02:20] <Guest13893> daftykins it@it:/$ sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda1 /mnt3 && sudo cp /mnt2/*.tar /mnt3/
[02:20] <Guest13893> Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already exclusively opened.
[02:20] <Guest13893> The volume may be already mounted, or another software may use it which
[02:20] <Guest13893> could be identified for example by the help of the 'fuser' command.
[02:20] <Guest13893> it@it:/$
[02:20] <daftykins> don't paste to the channel, there's a reason we were using the paste site before - why did you stop?
[02:21] <daftykins> "mount"
[02:22] <Guest13893> daftykins what
[02:22] <Guest13893> daftykins mount
[02:22] <daftykins> "mount" in a pastebin
[02:23] <Guest13893> daftykins copy every time everything to the browser a pain in the ass
[02:23] <daftykins> Guest13893: oh and "cat /mnt/etc/issue"
[02:24] <daftykins> Guest13893: well either you do it so i can help, or i can't.
[02:24] <bindi> what about using pastebinit? or nc termbin whatever..?
[02:24] <daftykins> not going to help right now.
[02:24] <cfhowlett> Guest13893, your computer does what you tell it.  you give commands with the keyboard input.  deal.
[02:24] <Guest13893> daftykins it@it:/$ cat /mnt/etc/issue
[02:24] <Guest13893> Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS \n \l
[02:24] <Guest13893> it@it:/$
[02:25] <Guest13893> daftykins it is only 3 lines
[02:25] <daftykins> Guest13893: i asked for "mount"
[02:25] <pc__> OK.. that's right
[02:25] <cfhowlett> Guest13893, as bindi and daftykins have suggested: use paste
[02:25] <Guest13893> daftykins even for only 3 lines
[02:26] <daftykins> Guest13893: i'm waiting to see "mount" in a pastebin
[02:27] <ElevyNJ> Evening everyone
[02:27] <cfhowlett> ElevyNJ, greetings.
[02:28] <Guest13893> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12996449/
[02:28] <Valduare> hey guys… got an ubuntu install here on an ssd     all of sudden nothing is persistent    run an update and reboot….. wants the same update when it boots back up……   update something in dropbox and reboot it sees new file and wants to download it…
[02:28] <CharlesMax> okay, up and running with wifi, now any help on installing the nvidia drivers for geforce gtx 980?
[02:28] <Valduare> on 15.04
[02:28] <Elimin8er> Can anyone give me any idea, why after updating to 15.10 I cant get my win machine to connect to the samba fs anymore ? Its not excepting passwords anymore
[02:29] <Saulo-> (away) ausente.
[02:29] <daftykins> CharlesMax: "sudo apt-get install nvidia-346" and reboot
[02:29] <ElevyNJ> So, my latest addition to the damaged hardware I have here running ubuntu is a laptop that had tea spilled on it. Only one key is bad which happens to be the #2 key so i can't type 2 or @. I can ssh into it.  How do I enable VNC so I can control it from another PC?
[02:29] <Guest13893> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12996449/
[02:30] <Guest13893> daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/12996449/
[02:30] <daftykins> why twice?
[02:30] <CharlesMax> okay, have to run sudo apt-get update first, otherwise get not found
[02:30] <cfhowlett> three times?
[02:30] <daftykins> ah yeah
[02:30] <daftykins> Guest13893: sudo cp /mnt2/*.tar /mnt3/
[02:31] <cfhowlett> bindi, dupingping http://www.ubuntu-user.com/content/download/1020/6656/file/ubuntuuser_1.pdf
[02:31] <SchrodingersScat> !vnc | ElevyNJ
[02:31] <Guest13893> daftykins it@it:/$ sudo cp /mnt2/*.tar /mnt3/
[02:31] <Guest13893> cp: cannot stat ‘/mnt2/*.tar’: No such file or directory
[02:31] <Guest13893> it@it:/$
[02:32] <ElevyNJ> !Freenx
[02:32] <daftykins> Guest13893: did you make the tar file yet from the earlier commands...
[02:32] <SchrodingersScat> !info x11vnc | ElevyNJ also heard about this one recently, haven't used it yet.  apt-cache search vnc would probably bring up many results.
[02:32] <Guest13893> daftykins witch one
[02:32] <bindi> cfhowlett: cool, there are more i presume? :p
[02:33] <Guest13893> daftykins the first one worked
[02:33] <Guest13893> daftykins the other not
[02:33] <cfhowlett> bindi, there used to be individual free articles, but those seem to have been removed.
[02:34] <daftykins> Guest13893: look for tar files "ls /mnt2/"
[02:34] <Guest13893> daftykins the test user i do not need it
[02:34] <ElevyNJ> Thanks. i'll try freenx. i do have ssh enabled which is good because i can' log in locally with that key not working
[02:34] <Guest13893> daftykins it@it:/$ ls /mnt2/
[02:34] <Guest13893> debian-live-5010-i386-xfce-desktop.iso  ibm  lost+found  Recycled  test
[02:34] <Guest13893> it@it:/$
[02:35] <daftykins> so there is no .tar
[02:35] <daftykins> oh they're on /mnt
[02:35] <daftykins> Guest13893: ls /mnt/
[02:36] <Guest13893> daftykins it@it:/$ ls /mnt/
[02:36] <Guest13893> bin    dev   ibm.tar     lost+found  opt   run   sys  var
[02:36] <Guest13893> boot   etc   initrd.img  media       proc  sbin  tmp  vmlinuz
[02:36] <Guest13893> cdrom  home  lib         mnt         root  srv   usr
[02:36] <Guest13893> it@it:/$
[02:36] <daftykins> there it is.
[02:36] <daftykins> "sudo cp /mnt/ibm.tar /mnt3/"
[02:36] <daftykins> now reboot into Windows and copy C:\ibm.tar onto the flash drive
[02:41] <lvanderpool> okay so... I just did a clean install of 15.10.. now i've got some weird behavior.
[02:41] <lvanderpool> Some text is invisible. I type my password and it loops back to the login screen.
[02:42] <CharlesMax> yes! thank you daftykins. How did you know it was nvidia-346?
[02:42] <lvanderpool> Other text is weird, like half grey half white
[02:42] <lvanderpool> Where I can enter my password it's just 'Pas   rd'
[02:42] <daftykins> CharlesMax: the 980 got support after ~340, 346 is the newest in the repos of 14.04 - i ran "apt-cache search nvidia-" on my own system
[02:42] <lvanderpool> when i enter my password ,the screen goes black for a second and i'm back on the login page
[02:43] <CharlesMax> I went to settings -> about this computer, and it says under graphics “GeForce GTX 980 Ti/PCIe/SSE2” which is why I believe you did it. Thanks again
[02:43] <daftykins> CharlesMax: you should have the program nvidia-settings if you click the 'dash' icon top left and begin to type it
[02:44] <CharlesMax> ok, found it
[02:45] <daftykins> that should confirm some info too
[02:45] <lvanderpool> i just tried to restart and now i have a black screen and a cursor that doesn't move.
[02:45] <daftykins> sounds pretty bad
[02:45] <daftykins> perhaps 15.10 on your machine is not a wise choice?
[02:45] <lvanderpool> oh now i haev a page of text that reads [   ###.#####] nouvea E[Xorg[734]] nv50cal_space: -16
[02:46] <lvanderpool> daftykins: i wouldn't see why
[02:46] <daftykins> heh yeah so the open source driver is defocating bricks right now
[02:46] <daftykins> (open source nvidia driver)
[02:46] <daftykins> you likely need to update and install a proprietary one to get anywhere
[02:46] <daftykins> what's your card?
[02:46] <lvanderpool> it's brand new
[02:46] <daftykins> no but the model
[02:46] <lvanderpool> i forget which one
[02:46] <lvanderpool> nvidia
[02:47] <daftykins> i knew that already
[02:47] <lvanderpool> 780 or something
[02:47] <lvanderpool> i forget
[02:47] <NathanielHill> Sometimes, after resuming from suspend with my headphones plugged in my laptop will only play audio from the built-in speakers
[02:47] <daftykins> try boot with "nomodeset"
[02:47] <daftykins> !nomodeset | lvanderpool
[02:47] <NathanielHill> I put a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d to turn off pulseaudio and restart it and that doesn't change anything
[02:48] <NathanielHill> unplugging and replugging the audio jack has no effect
[02:49] <NathanielHill> I also made sure to disable autospawning in the suspend script
[02:49] <NathanielHill> I thought about rmmod'ing the drivers, but there's a giant mess of 26 audio modules
[02:49] <Vespero> Hey, is there anyway to repair an exFAT drive in Ubuntu?
[02:50] <Vespero> I was doing file recovery to my exFAT drive and my computer lost power, now it's acting up and has some errors
[02:50] <daftykins> Vespero: not sure i'd risk it if data matters
[02:51] <lvanderpool> daftykins: okay i'm in with nomodeset
[02:51] <lvanderpool> daftykins: what's the problem
[02:51] <cfhowlett> Vespero, rather than repair that drive, immediately back up the data.
[02:51] <daftykins> lvanderpool: like i said it's using the open source driver nouveau. is it online right now?
[02:51] <lvanderpool> yeah i'm in
[02:51] <daftykins> lvanderpool: i mean connected to the internet, not booted
[02:51] <Vespero> cfhowlett, That is in no way an option.
[02:51] <lvanderpool> yeah
[02:51] <lvanderpool> it's good
[02:52] <daftykins> lvanderpool: run a terminal and "lspci" to confirm the graphics card model
[02:52] <cfhowlett> Vespero, you can't back up your data?  sad indeed.
[02:52] <daftykins> lvanderpool: did you enable updating during install?
[02:52] <lvanderpool> it's geforce gtx 750 ti
[02:52] <Vespero> cfhowlett, this drive is the one I use for backups. I was literally recovering data from my old backup drive
[02:52] <lvanderpool> and yes
[02:52] <daftykins> lvanderpool: ok "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install nvidia-352" and reboot
[02:53] <daftykins> !info nvidia-352
[02:53] <Vespero> The drive works, it just stops working if I try to access the folder I was exporting files to
[02:53] <daftykins> Vespero: so nothing on it really matters as it's a backup target? so rewrite the exFAT and move on? *shrug*
[02:54] <Vespero> daftykins, No, I do need the data on the drive, it's backup/storage. I don't have enough drives to really have a wholly dedicated backup, and things keep breaking before I can recover files
[02:55] <daftykins> Vespero: probably because you're using a mickey mouse file system with no journal - why on earth are you using exFAT?
[02:55] <Vespero> ntfsfix says to chkdsk, but that would require a crapton of work on my part and I'm trying to find if there's a utility that can just fix the four errors
[02:55] <daftykins> don't have a Windows host?
[02:55] <lvanderpool> daftykins: you're awesome. thanks yet again, for the n^2 time
[02:56] <daftykins> no problemo :)
[02:56] <lvanderpool> someday i hope to have as much knowledge as you on this stuff and be able to contribute =P
[02:56] <Vespero> daftykins, because I wanted an OS-neutral format to store my stuff on (since I do plan to eventually get a Windows drive or partition) and I didn't realize Ubuntu didn't support it
[02:56] <daftykins> it does support exFAT, how else would you have been writing to it?
[02:56] <Vespero> daftykins, No, I'd have to take the drive out and put it in my dad's computer
[02:57] <daftykins> it's internal? you can't call a drive that's permanently in, a backup drive
[02:57] <Vespero> daftykins, it doesn't do much else other than read/write. You have to install support manually, and there aren't any support utilities
[02:58] <Vespero> daftykins, it's really more of a storage drive that I was recovering my backups to after my backup/storage external harddrive died
[02:59] <inteus> and that's why I use the cloud to back my data up
[02:59] <Vespero> It's still useable, but I've got like three folders that I can't access or delete and if I mess with them too much, I have to reboot to use the drive again
[02:59] <daftykins> Vespero: i know :) doesn't mean it's not supported.
[02:59] <Vespero> daftykins, it's not AS supported as I need it to be
[03:00] <daftykins> Vespero: you can boot windows install media, then chkdsk it from there.
[03:00] <daftykins> don't have to install.
[03:00] <cfhowlett> Vespero, I believe in the case of malfunctioning drives, one should boot a live session, mount the offending storage, navigate to the treasure and copy to another storage target.  the more you futz with it during your session, the faster it will degrade and reach catastrophic failure
[03:00] <Vespero> daftykins, ooooh, I forgot about that. I might have an old Windows 7 cd around here...
[03:01] <Vespero> cfhowlett, the issue is just a few folders and files that are corrupt because the recovery shut off incorrectly, there's not any real defect in the drive
[03:01] <cfhowlett> and yet ...
[03:02] <Vespero> oh crap, I don't have a disk drive
[03:02] <Vespero> uugggh
[03:02] <daftykins> flash drive spare?
[03:02] <Vespero> Maybe
[03:02] <Vespero> I guess I need to look up how to make a windows repair thumbdrive
[03:03] <daftykins> yeah no idea from ubuntu unless it's one of those GUI tools.
[03:05] <angelsl> hi, before i embark on bootstrapping GCC myself, are there any recent binary GCC crosscompilers to MIPS available in a PPA or something?
[03:05] <thenerdjones> when i try to install kubuntu 15.10 on my desktop i keep getting error  The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot. has anyone heard of this?
[03:05] <angelsl> debian's packages are totally screwed up @_@
[03:07] <mib_mib> hi all - when i changed my /etc/hostname for my server to include both its internal ip address mapping and external ip adddress mapping (it has 2 NICs), that I can no longer ssh into it from my laptop?
[03:08] <daftykins> mib_mib: do you mean /etc/hosts ? hostname does not have IPs
[03:09] <mib_mib> daftykins: yes, both in /etc/hosts and set the hostname in /etc/hostname to the local ip address hostname
[03:09] <mib_mib> i'm not sure what the /etc/hostname actually does - where is this used?
[03:09] <daftykins> it's just to name the computer.
[03:10] <daftykins> mib_mib: can you pastebin both files?
[03:11] <wbill> sigh...
[03:12] <agent_white> mib_mib: On the remote machine, Restart after setting your intended hostname in /etc/hostname. Remove ~/.ssh/known_hosts from your local machine. Then reboot the remote machine.
[03:13] <mib_mib> agent_white: tried that, doesn't help
[03:13] <mib_mib> agent_white: its after i set the hostname and such that it stops working
[03:13] <agent_white> mib_mib: /etc/hostname should contain nothing other than a single name. "foo"... or  "bar"... or "mib". Nothing else.
[03:13] <mib_mib> agent_white: yep, thats what it does
[03:14] <mib_mib> agent_white: the problem is that my machine has 2 NICs, and i have a DNS server that sets an 'A' record for each of these, one is an 'external' ip address and one is 'internal'
[03:14] <agent_white> mib_mib: Like daftykins said -- paste.ubuntu.org -- " when i changed my /etc/hostname for my server to include both its
[03:14] <agent_white>                        internal ip address mapping and external ip adddress mapping" -- since you said you did this, I'm not sure if you are using /etc/hostname right.
[03:14] <daftykins> ^
[03:15] <daftykins> i was confused also
[03:15] <daftykins> you may even have broken sudo usage
[03:15] <mib_mib> agent_white: daftykins http://pastebin.com/fq7sNC2H
[03:15] <mib_mib> i probably am not - i'm not sure exactly what the /etc/hostname actually does
[03:15] <daftykins> as we say it should simply be "computername" in there
[03:16] <daftykins> ah you have 'serverlocal' that's ok
[03:16] <daftykins> as long as it's not 'server.local'
[03:16] <mib_mib> right
[03:16] <daftykins> nope you've busted hosts there, take out line 5 and change line 4's IP back to 127.0.1.0
[03:16] <daftykins> sorry 127.0.1.1
[03:17] <agent_white> mib_mib: I'm confused... you said you made a change to /etc/hostname that broke what was working prior... but from what you show, /etc/hostname is perfectly fine.
[03:17] <agent_white> What exactly did you change?
[03:18] <agent_white> If it was /etc/hostname, show us what it was before.
[03:18] <daftykins> it's hosts.
[03:18] <agent_white> Ahhh
[03:18] <Guest13893> daftykins so do i have it now in my windows partition?
[03:18] <agent_white> Woops! I'
[03:18] <agent_white> daftykins: I'm way behind! :P
[03:18] <django_> How do i access a folder inside  Home  in the terminal??
[03:18] <daftykins> Guest13893: where did you disappear to for the last 40 minutes? yes if you ran what i said.
[03:19] <daftykins> Guest13893: so go reboot into Windows and check for it now.
[03:19] <agent_white> django_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:20] <Guest13893> daftykins it@it:/$ sudo cp /mnt/ibm.tar /mnt3/
[03:20] <Guest13893> it@it:/$
[03:20] <Guest13893> daftykins is it on C:\
[03:21] <daftykins> i already told you that.
[03:21] <Guest13893> daftykins in the /
[03:21] <daftykins> reboot into Windows and go see it
[03:21] <Guest13893> daftykins the last thing a did was this it@it:/$ sudo cp /mnt/ibm.tar /mnt3/
[03:21] <Guest13893> it@it:/$
[03:22] <daftykins> yes you just pasted that twice in the last 2 minutes
[03:22] <daftykins> why do you keep repeating yourself?
[03:22] <NathanielHill> how the fuck do I get pulseaudio to stop autospawning
[03:22] <Guest13893> daftykins is that now the final step
[03:22] <daftykins> !language
[03:22] <NathanielHill> I set it to "no" in /etc/pulse/client.conf
[03:23] <daftykins> Guest13893: reboot.
[03:23] <NathanielHill> also set daemon path to /bin/true
[03:23] <NathanielHill> So, what is respawning the process?
[03:24] <Guest13893> daftykins how can i be shore now if the backup took everything on /home/ibm even settings can i some how do a check up tool or something
[03:24] <ElevyNJ> Thanks all, i now can use VNC to control the system
[03:25] <daftykins> no.
[03:26] <ElevyNJ> is there any way to locally diagnose why I can get a PPTP VPN to work?
[03:27] <daftykins> can't? you would read log messages to see why it isn't connecting
[03:27] <daftykins> assuming you understand that your system is a VPN client and you need to be paying for / have access to a VPN server service
[03:28] <Guest13893> daftykins why is xubuntu so hard to take a backup and does not even do some kind of automatic check up like windows
[03:29] <TerhX> hello
[03:29] <daftykins> Guest13893: there is backup available, but you did not set it up - your installation there is also ancient using the wrong file systems, so all this is on you.
[03:29] <mib_mib> agent_white: daftykins before, i set the hostname to server i.e. the alias for the 'external' ip address
[03:29] <agent_white> Guest13893: Just a not for the future -- what is the point of backups if you don't test them? :)
[03:29] <agent_white> s/not/note/
[03:30] <Guest13893> daftykins it should be a way to test if the backup did everything write
[03:30] <mib_mib> agent_white: daftykins - when i change the /etc/hostname from 'serverlocal' to 'server' (i.e. change from alias of external to internal ip), i can no longer ssh into the server
[03:31] <daftykins> Guest13893: that's not todays lesson. now go into windows and extract the .tar to check it out
[03:31] <mib_mib> i dont understand the difference between a subdomain in an 'A' record from a dns server, and from this 'hostname'
[03:31] <NathanielHill> So, I've created a shell in ~/local/bin to start google-chrome with a specific niceness. This works when I start it from the shell, but doesn't work from the ubuntu dock
[03:31] <daftykins> mib_mib: /etc/hostname is not DNS :)
[03:31] <NathanielHill> Where can I change the path for the dock icons?
[03:32] <Guest13893> daftykins /home/ibm is very important to me so
[03:32] <daftykins> Guest13893: that's nice.
[03:32] <mib_mib> daftykins: so why would it have an affect on me being able to ssh into the server? i've read that it can affect the 'sudo' and other things
[03:32] <daftykins> mib_mib: yeah 'cause it's how the system knows of itself
[03:33] <mib_mib> so what gives here? i've also read that you need to sometimes assign 127.0.1.1
[03:33] <agent_white> mib_mib: Just a hint... don't modify /etc/hostname to solve your issue.
[03:33] <mib_mib> i'm not sure why, some sort of debian workaround
[03:33] <mib_mib> why would it care?
[03:33] <daftykins> mib_mib: well, put it back the way it was :P
[03:34] <TerhX> I'm looking help with permissions (user/group) (ssh/sftp)
[03:34] <mib_mib> daftykins: hehe i guess
[03:35] <daftykins> TerhX: ask.
[03:37] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, My system is a VPN client to another Ubuntu box and it just says it failed. I'm just trying this to secure myself at public hot spots and I know that PPTP is not very secure
[03:37] <daftykins> yeah i would not use that.
[03:38] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: for now you'd probably be better off SSH'ing to that other box, then SOCKS proxying your web traffic through it, until you set up a proper OpenVPN.
[03:39] <TerhX> daftykins: well.. I would like to restrict user to "his" home folder, so user can't do "cd /" and view all root and other users files and stuff. also user should be able to use sftp and ssh to run sh scripts (for example gameserver)
[03:40] <daftykins> look into scponly
[03:40] <daftykins> but you're going to have some challenges there
[03:41] <agent_white> TerhX: As the user you wish you "keep hidden" from other users... run `chmod g-w,o-w ~`
[03:43] <agent_white> TerhX: Rather... that keeps from writing. Do `chmod g-r, o-r ~` to keep it completely hidden... try the first command, first, to see if it firts your needs. Otherwise, the second.
[03:43] <TerhX> agent_white: not keep hidden exactly. just to prevent anyway to go root directory or any other folder than own home and sub-directories.
[03:43] <agent_white> And keep in mind, if at any point you wish to share a folder in your home dir, you'll need to edit the ACL.
[03:43] <agent_white> TerhX: Oh!
[03:43] <ElevyNJ> daftykins, I've read 9 different guides to OpenVPN and got confused by each one. The main and (silly to some) reason I want to do this is the coupons.com website only runs on windows and osx and will only print to a physical printer. I am not home much so I want to be able to print the coupons to a printer in my house attached to a ubuntu system from a windows 7 system
[03:43] <TerhX> agent_white: user should be able to run scripts and create & delete files, folders.. ect
[03:44] <TerhX> agent_white: so its kinda complicated ^-^
[03:45] <daftykins> ElevyNJ: yeah you're alone in that desire :P
[03:45] <agent_white> TerhX: But they are only able to access their own home... not change to any other directory... look into "restricted shells" or "restricted bash". You can supply a user's shell when the user is created (and modify it after)
[03:45] <agent_white> TerhX: That's where you'll need to look :) Restricted shell + creating/modifying/removing ACL's on directories. This combo should do it.
[03:45] <TerhX> agent_white:  i already tried rbash  (/etc/passwd) user
[03:47] <TerhX> agent_white: problem with rbash was that user could not change directory in "his" own home foldier
[03:49] <TerhX> agent_white: this was the way i tried > (etc/passwd) USERNAME:(blablaignorethis):/home/USERNAME:/bin/rbash
[03:50] <daftykins> yeah looks like rbash ruins 'cd' entirely.
[03:50] <TerhX> yea :/
[03:51] <TerhX> if just there was a way to simply user to allow do anything in his own home directory without ruining others files or viewing them
[03:51] <ElevyNJ> I'm ignorant but what about a chroot for each user?
[03:51] <TerhX> without doing every single file their own permission for each user
[03:52] <daftykins> it's not an easy task that's for sure.
[03:52] <TerhX> hmm chroot.. how would that work?
[03:52] <daftykins> not gonna help you, it'd be harder.
[03:53] <daftykins> i think the suggested ACLs idea might bear some fruit, you'd have to look into it
[03:53] <agent_white> TerhX: Aye. Looks like rbash is really... picky ;)  -- Like daftykins said, you will need to either look into chroot jails... or what I said, ACL's. Probably a combo of both.
[03:54] <Kevin`> how can I have the kernel copied to my ESP whenever a new one is installed? is there a script hook for when the /vmlinuz and /initrd.img symlinks are created?
[03:54] <agent_white> Both well worth learning about... good learning curve, but well worth it to understand.
[03:55] <agent_white> TerhX: Good luck :)
[03:55] <TerhX> well i'll do some research :D
[03:56] <agent_white> TerhX: Do lots of testing on your own. No need to go "all out" and try it on paritions... make a test folder, a few folders inside that, and a few files in each of those folders... and practice permitting certain users/groups access to certain files, and disallowing others... etc.
[03:58] <TerhX> agent_white: well always can use virtual machine before starting to touch server pc :D
[04:44] <musique> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dk3bxROfz4
[04:44] <musique> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Dk3bxROfz4
[04:53] <Guest6703> daftykins it is there
[04:55] <Guest6703> daftykins how can i check if everything is cloned copied like it should be
[04:56] <AasMan> How to extract a .bz2 file?
[04:57] <TrenxT> tar xvf filename
[04:57] <AasMan> I tried bzip2 -dk filename.xml.bz2
[04:57] <mae_tae> hello guyz
[04:58] <AasMan> But it isnt a tar file,so it wont work
[04:58] <mae_tae> i had a problem regarding connecting ssh from one ubuntu to another ubuntu, it cannot establish connection with ssh but i can able to ping the IP
[04:58] <mae_tae> can someone help me please
[04:59] <TrenxT> use bzip2 -d
[04:59] <mae_tae> i dont know if i miss some configuration
[05:00] <mae_tae> ubuntu used is 14.0
[05:00] <TrenxT> or just bunzip2 filename
[05:01] <ron___> Hi guys, I have a supid problem about permission.. a file like this: -rw-rw----  1 www-data www-data     5 Oct 29 12:41 test.txt
[05:02] <ron___> and a user in www-data group --  testuser : testuser www-data, why "cat test.txt"  will shows "cat: test.txt: Permission denied"
[05:36] <baadramany> guys
[05:36] <baadramany> im having trouble installing the xercess c+= parser
[05:36] <baadramany> can someone help m?
[05:36] <baadramany> c++*
[05:38] <baadramany> i downloaded the newest version
[05:38] <baadramany> but i cant run the Makefile
[05:38] <baadramany> i get this error evrytime i run it
[05:38] <baadramany> ./Makefile: line 19: syntax error near unexpected token `then'
[05:38] <baadramany> ./Makefile: line 19: `  if test -z '$(MAKELEVEL)'; then \'
[05:39] <superX> hello
[05:39] <superX> test
[05:40] <superX> is there anybody in there?
[05:40] <superX> hello
[05:40] <jalnt> no
[05:40] <superX> thanks man
[05:40] <jalnt> you too
[05:40] <superX> it means I have successfully connected to the irc for the very first time
[05:41] <superX> I have just configured it following a tutorial in ubuntu website.
[05:41] <superX> It feels great.
[05:41] <jalnt> Fair enough
[05:41] <superX> :)
[05:41] <jalnt> Ubuntu should come with xchat or hexchat by default though
[05:42] <jalnt> With freenode preconfigured
[05:42] <jalnt> And connect to this channel automatically
[05:42] <superX> yes, I agree.  i like mint because of it has preconfigured hexchat in it.
[05:43] <jalnt> Yeah that's what i use
[05:44] <superX> there are many people in the right side list of the chat window but why this chat room is so empty? I mean there are almost 1000 people listed in the right side list & in the main chat room only 2 are talking?
[05:48] <somsip> superX: it's a support channel, so people will not just 'chat'. If you have a support question, ask it. If you want to chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:51] <HackSmash> a lot of us 'idle' here so we can track back through the logfile and learn from what gets solved
[05:51] <vickycq> Sometimes thunar hangs and I killed it with kill -9 <pid-of-thunar>. Then I cannot launch thunar anymore.
[05:51] <vickycq> I tried to launch it from terminal and no errors appeared, it just hangs there.
[05:51] <vickycq> Any ideas? Thanks!
[05:52] <superX> you can use some other file manager software.
[05:54] <somsip> vickycq: what version of ubuntu?
[05:55] <HackSmash> ^^^  yeah    thunar is good up to 13.10
[05:55] <BuzzardBuzz> two file managers that seem to work good are pcmanfm and nautilus
[05:56] <vickycq> somsip, Xfce 4.12 in 15.10
[05:56] <somsip> vickycq: it's possibly related to gvfs hanging, or blocking thunar from completing it's pre-run checks and/or connections. Have a read through this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bug/775117
[05:57] <vickycq> somsip, Thanks, I'll read through that.
[05:57] <BuzzardBuzz> cool, its a known bug
[05:58] <somsip> vickycq: it might have ideas that help, though it isn't your specific bug. The workarounds may be similar. Like killing gvfs (though you need to understand the effects of doing that) and ultimately a reboot might be needed
[05:59] <vickycq> Yeah. Reboot will certainly help me out of this. In my case the bug can be triggered by operating too fast in thunar.
[06:00] <somsip> vickycq: given it's a recent version, it might be worth trawling through current bugs too https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/thunar/+bugs
[06:03] <vickycq> I launched thunar (of course nothing appeared). Then strace -p <pid-of-thunar>. Suddenly it spits out tons of messages, and thunar window appeared.
[06:03] <vickycq> Part of the strace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12997128/
[06:03] <somsip> vickycq: maybe it's a legit bug as I see no outstanding bugs for the 15.10 version.
[06:04] <vickycq> Seems like an icon theme problem? ...
[06:04] <somsip> vickycq: I would imagine that would degrade nicely rather than just not starting. But possible
[06:09] <KracklePop> hello all, i installed the gnome environment on my ubuntu v 14.04, i was wondering if there is a way to uninstall it like in the terminal? i really only need the unity format for my purposes and am trying to nip and tuck all unnecessary progs, having a HD storage space crisis
[06:09] <somsip> KracklePop: how did you install it?
[06:10] <KracklePop> via package command, im not sure the name but it was a sudo apt-get install xxx
[06:10] <baizon> KracklePop: http://askubuntu.com/questions/244654/remove-ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[06:11] <somsip> KracklePop: then apt-get purge xxx should remove it. Use --dry-run first to make sure nothing untoward will happn. Check /var/log/apt/history to make sure you know what xxx was
[06:12] <KracklePop> i think it was just ubuntu-gnome-desktop after reading the article...how do i do a "dry-run"?
[06:13] <somsip> KracklePop: apt-get purge --dry-run
[06:13] <KracklePop> gave me 3 dists , reg gnome, compiz, and another that i cant recall atm
[06:13] <KracklePop> ohhh ok
[06:14] <musique> _!_
[06:14] <KracklePop> and upon doing a dry run i guess terminal will tell me or show me how the sys would operate after doing the command? that dry run is just new to me
[06:14] <KracklePop> thx a lot somsip
[06:15] <KracklePop> i appreciate your help
[06:15] <somsip> KracklePop: it tells you what it will do without actually doing it. man apt-get, then /dry-run
[06:17] <iicb> a
[06:17] <jalnt> b
[06:24] <JessicaJung_> what is a regression error?
[06:25] <pepee> how come ppa-purge and apt-add-repository --remove don't have a "dry-run" option?
[06:27] <KracklePop> ok im getting this "E: Command line option --dry-run is not understood" was dry run perhaps added after 14.04LTS? or is it more likely i should just back up my info and reinstall ubuntu from my flash media?
[06:28] <somsip> KracklePop: no - it's long standing. Paste your command
[06:29] <somsip> JessicaJung_: in what context?
[06:29] <j33p33> what's the official channels for ubuntu arm ports?
[06:29] <KracklePop> sudo apt-get remove gnome-desktop-environment --dry-run
[06:29] <somsip> j33p33: #ubuntu-arm IIRC. See !alis
[06:29] <JessicaJung_> somsip: I've been seeing it around on the ubuntu launchpad page, does it affect like the kernel?
[06:30] <somsip> KracklePop: put --dry-run before the package name. Some commands dont like options split around arguments
[06:30] <KracklePop> also, i connected to this channel using SSL...hopefully correct...could someone /whois me and tell me if my ip is showing?
[06:30] <j33p33> props to everyone for 15.10 it's kind of awesome... on this orangepi
[06:31] <inteus> :30 [Freenode] -!- KracklePop [~KraKle@cpe-96-28-2-103.kya.res.rr.com]
[06:31] <KracklePop> somsip ok, thanks, new to linux and i get my arguments etcetera in the wrong order of operations still
[06:32] <j33p33> !alis
[06:34] <KracklePop> hmm, guess i need to recheck those ssl options...thanks for letting me know, im aware if i use /whois on myself it will show me my own ip when others would not have access to it
[06:34] <inteus> ssl doesn't hide your IP, it just encrypts your connection to the server
[06:35] <somsip> !cloak | KracklePop
[06:36] <KracklePop> thx ubottu, i thought the whole purpose of ssl was to secure anonymity, this nick is registered, but just did it before i popped on the chan
[06:37] <somsip> KracklePop: you misunderstand, and that subject is offtopic for further discussion here
[06:39] <KracklePop> sorry, will discuss in freenode, but i think the link straitened out my conflict anyhow
[06:40] <ddr_mobile> Hi all, I'm now in my fourth day trying to get my Linux and my Windows both reliably booting up.
[06:41] <ddr_mobile> I just wiped all my partitions and installed windows, then kubuntu - but I can't seem to boot into kubuntu.
[06:41] <ddr_mobile> Does anyone have any ideas? :/
[06:42] <hateball> ddr_mobile: Perhaps if you provide more details as to where the boot process halts, and so on
[06:42] <Krackle> ddr_mobile thats how i lost access to windows messing around in the partitions...linux and windows use different systems to boot
[06:43] <Krackle> brb
[06:43] <ddr_mobile> Sorry for being vague. I mean, there is no grub I can find to even start the process.
[06:44] <hateball> ddr_mobile: Are you using legacy boot or EFI ?
[06:44] <hateball> s/boot/bios/
[06:44] <ddr_mobile> Efi, but I have legacy boot in my boot priority list.
[06:44] <ddr_mobile> BIOS, yeah.
[06:45] <ddr_mobile> I did try legacy, but no boot options were detected.
[06:45] <ddr_mobile> I'm currently trying boot-repair, but I don't have high hopes.
[06:47] <ddr_mobile> I can't boot my computer in uefi mode. Perhaps I have a bad live USB.
[06:47] <ddr_mobile> Using the live USB, I mean.
[06:48] <ddr_mobile> (With multi-boot.)
[06:49] <Chetic> how do I make my tiled windows at the bottom go all the way down to the bottom? right now there's a small gap...
[06:51] <Chetic> oh actually this just happens with xterm, not gnome-terminal...
[06:52] <somsip> Chetic: what method are you using to tile them?
[06:53] <Chetic> somsip: ctrl+alt+numpad#
[06:53] <somsip> Chetic: What WM? Unity?
[06:53] <Chetic> ah yeah, yes
[06:53] <somsip> Chetic: k - no idea, sorry
[06:56] <proc> any
[07:23] <ddr_mobile> Hm, I wasn't able to boot uefi before. But I thought I was because the entry said so.
[07:36] <thatguy007> Hey guys, anybody know if it's safe to install the proprietary AMD graphics drivers in 15.10 from the GUI yet?
[07:48] <mecan> hello
[07:48] <Checkers> hey
[07:49] <musique> ?
[07:51] <Li> how to install jdk on unbuntu 15.4?
[07:51] <Li> I mean using apt-get
[07:51] <ubuntu> hello
[07:52] <Guest3029> hello you all
[07:53] <TJ-> Li: "apt-cache search -n openjdk.*jre", choose which you want then "sudo apt-get install <package-name>"
[07:54] <thatguy007> Anybody know if it's safe to install the AMD proprietary graphics drivers in Ubuntu 15.10 via the GUI tool yet?
[07:54] <TJ-> thatguy007: I've not heard anything positive about that so far
[07:55] <thatguy007> Lame. Wanted to test a game that just got Linux support and see how it runs compared to Windows playing back the same demo, not exactly fair if I'm using open source drivers.
[07:56] <ubuntu__> hello
[07:57] <ubuntu__> hello i love ubuntu communities
[07:57] <randpaulpresiden> Is there any software for ubuntu that will let me turn ubuntu into a virtual fax machine? I have an actual phone line for a current fax machine
[07:58] <ubuntu__> I don't think that i got it
[08:00] <ubuntu__> where can i found best app for linux
[08:06] <jonah> Hi I'm running ubuntu server and cups was working great with shared printer to local network but not to outside world. Now all of a sudden I can no longer connect to cups and just get "unable to connect" error when i visit 192.168.0.100:631 which used to work?
[08:06] <jonah> Any help to get this working again would be really appreciated
[08:08] <auronandace> jonah: wouldn't you need to setup port forwarding on your router to make the printer visable outside your network?
[08:09] <jonah> auronandace: hi thanks - but I only want the printer visable on my local network
[08:09] <bhuddah> jonah: did you check if the cups daemon is running?
[08:09] <auronandace> jonah: maybe the ip changed recently
[08:09] <jonah> bhuddah: well doing sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart says it restarts ok...
[08:10] <bhuddah> jonah: check with ps or top if there is actually a running process.
[08:10] <jonah> auronandace: the ip is still 192.168.0.100 for the server on my local network
[08:10] <ocean> jonah: see if cups is actually listening: sudo netstat -anp | grep 631
[08:11] <jonah> ocean: http://pastebin.com/GfVfaJvT
[08:12] <jonah> bhuddah: http://pastebin.com/fcgNjFXb
[08:13] <ocean> that seems oke
[08:13] <bhuddah> uh. sorry, i can't access it. i'm behind a shitty company proxy with blocking -.-
[08:13] <jonah> bhuddah: well it just says pid tty 3033 pts/0 and 5883 pdt/0 when i run ps
[08:13] <jonah> bhuddah: when i run top I can't see anything that looks like it's called cups...
[08:14] <jonah> bhuddah: but if it's not running any more where the hell has it gone?
[08:14] <bhuddah> jonah: i was thinking using ps with more appropriate parameters.. like "ps auxwww" or something like that. sorry.
[08:14] <bhuddah> jonah: if in doubt, check the log.
[08:15] <ocean> jonah: it is running, you can tell from the netstat output, notice the "4876/cupsd"
[08:15] <ocean> so the 4876 is PID of cups
[08:15] <jonah> ocean: blimey, so is it just my .conf file then? though that looks fine from what I can make out...
[08:16] <jonah> ocean: http://pastebin.com/6D9hvRpc
[08:16] <ocean> jonah: can you start a browser on the cups machine? and then try http://localhost:631
[08:17] <jonah> ocean: well the remove machine is just a server so doesn't have a browser etc... I'm just ssh-in at the moment
[08:17] <ocean> from your netstat output it seems listening on local loopback
[08:18] <ocean> jonah: curl installed? You could try curl localhost:631
[08:18] <jonah> ocean: ah yes that works - gives me Apple Inc header etc
[08:19] <ocean> it seems that it skips your config file
[08:19] <jonah> ocean: so maybe it is my conf file then that's changed. Can you see any issues with this http://pastebin.com/6D9hvRpc
[08:19] <ocean> anything useful in /var/log/cups/ (maybe the error log?)
[08:20] <jonah> ocean: ah yes you've nailed it - it says Bad Listen address 192.168.0.*:631 at line 16
[08:20] <ocean> ah!
[08:21] <jonah> ocean: but not sure why, I'm sure that should work as per this guide: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUPS
[08:21] <TJ-> ocean: Usually that would be only available to the local processes with "Listen localhost" - you can add additional "Listen" directives for additional static addresses on the PC, but that won't work if the PC gets DHCP dynamic addresses
[08:22] <TJ-> ocean: "Listen *:port" will work but not "Listen a.b.c.*:port" - the '*' is an alias for '0.0.0.0' meaining @all addresses on this system' which is what you want
[08:23] <jonah> TJ-: thanks so how do I put it to listen to all the local network but restrict the outside world?
[08:23] <ocean> TJ-: I think you should be directing your suggestion to jonah ?
[08:23] <TJ-> Sorry! tab typing fever!
[08:23] <ocean> np
[08:23] <jonah> ocean: thanks ocean, i'm still reading it all so saw it
[08:24] <TJ-> jonah: So if you have "Listen *:631" cupsd will always bind to all available IP addresses on the PC
[08:24] <TJ-> jonah: see "man 5 cupsd.conf" and look at the definition for "Listen" (search using /Listen and press enter)
[08:26] <DeaDSouL> TJ-: what is the numbers in man like ifconfig(9) or ls(2) ... etc ?
[08:26] <jonah> TJ-: problem is Listen *:631 gives me this error: Unable to bind socket for address [v1.::]:631 - Address already in use.
[08:26] <jonah> TJ-: and Unable to bind socket for address 0.0.0.0:631 - Address already in use.
[08:26] <TJ-> jonah: If the PC is not directly connected to the public Internet the "outside world" won't be able to access it, only the Local Area Network
[08:26] <Chetic> how do I make my tiled xterm windows at the bottom go all the way down to the bottom with unity? right now there's a small gap. only xterm though :S
[08:26] <TJ-> jonah: that sounds like another process (or an existing cupsd) is bound to the IPv6 address
[08:27] <ddr_mobile> DeaDSouL: I'd quite like to know myself!
[08:27] <ddr_mobile> I think they're some sort of organisational thing.
[08:29] <jonah> TJ-: this is crazy, it was working great yesterday - not sure what is going on!
[08:31] <TJ-> jonah: does this show which process is bound to 631? "sudo ss -6 -nltp"
[08:33] <sad> hi
[08:34] <jonah> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/Gii4QQtc
[08:34] <Guest40708> i cant use weather conky in my lubuntu14.04. please can sombody help me
[08:35] <TJ-> jonah: so there's an instance of cupsd already running
[08:35] <Dro> I always have the problem of words that hide other words when opening a PDF file, how can make it display correctly ?
[08:35] <TJ-> jonah:  which Ubuntu release is that on?
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> Dro: you can try mupdf
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> Guest4066: maybe the #conky guys know?
[08:37] <Dro> here is an example: http://i.imgur.com/dbfFN8C.png
[08:37] <TJ-> jonah: For Upstart use "sudo initctl restart cups", for systemd-init use "sudo systemctl restart cups.service"
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> Dro: can you try it with mupdf please, to see if it makes a difference?
[08:37] <Dro> ok
[08:38] <TJ-> Dro: looks like the PDF viewer you use doesn't fully support the layout styles of the document
[08:38] <jonah> TJ-: it's ubuntu server
[08:38] <noregret> anybody tried configuring evolution with exchange 365? i used to configure it on other distros, but i'm currently on 15.10 and i installed apt-get evolution, but it didn't have the "Exchange Web Services" option, what can i do?
[08:38] <jonah> TJ-: 14.04.3
[08:38] <Dro> lotuspsychje, mupdf don't solve the problem
[08:38] <TJ-> jonah: OK, so use the Upstart service control 'initctl' to restart cups so it lets the existing sockets go and starts afresh
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> Dro: and you have this issue with several pdf files?
[08:39] <Dro> lotuspsychje, yes i always have this problem with many files
[08:39] <TJ-> noregret: maybe they are packaged separately?
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> Dro: wich grafix driver do you use?
[08:40] <TJ-> noregret: looks like "evolution-ews"
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> Dro: sudo lshw -C video to see
[08:40] <TJ-> !info evolution-ews
[08:40] <jonah> TJ-: still get this: http://pastebin.com/f4yN5pAF
[08:41] <TJ-> jonah: that tells us the existing process either was started manually, or the service controller lost sight of it
[08:41] <jonah> TJ-: could it be the address is already in use in my conf file due to an error still somewhere?
[08:42] <TJ-> jonah: "sudo pkill cupsd" should kill it
[08:42] <Dro> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.com/VwUn0YdM
[08:43] <jonah> TJ-: ok ran that but still can't access 192.168.0.100:631 in browser!
[08:43] <amazoniantoad> What is com1? Are coms the i/o ports on my computer? How can I determine which com (if it pertains to USB) is which physical USB input?
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> Dro: have you tryed another driver from additional drivers list?
[08:43] <TJ-> jonah: are you trying on the same machine as cupsd is running on?
[08:43] <Dro> lotuspsychje, no, its a driver problem ?
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> Dro: lets make sure it isnt
[08:43] <Dro> i have a problem only with pdf files
[08:43] <jonah> TJ-: no I'm ssh in to a server on my local network
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> Dro: if both pdf viewer and mupdf dont show right..something else must be wrong
[08:44] <jonah> TJ-: I can plug a monitor and keyboard in if needed but have to swap them between this machien and the server, and as it is just server there is no browser etc
[08:44] <TJ-> jonah: so, you're on PC1 with a web browser, trying to access PC2 at 192.168.0.100:631 ?
[08:44] <jonah> TJ-: yes that's right
[08:44] <TJ-> jonah: what is the IP address of PC1 ?
[08:45] <musique> fart https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVxj_4BmFYY
[08:45] <jonah> TJ-: 192.168.0.16
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> Dro: have you installed nvidia-prime?
[08:45] <Dro> lotuspsychje, no
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> Dro: your card is optimus
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-prime | Dro
[08:46] <amazoniantoad> Can I set com1 as usb?
[08:46] <emad> Hi.
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> Dro: install please and enable performance mode in nvidia-settings after
[08:46] <TJ-> jonah: OK, so the correct sub-net. On PC1 do you get a '200' response if you do "curl --head http://192.168.0.100:631"
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> emad: welcome
[08:46] <Dro> lotuspsychje, ok thanks
[08:46] <emad> Thank you.
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> Dro: let me know wich drivers show in additional drivers section too
[08:47] <jonah> TJ-: curl: (7) Failed to connect to 192.168.100 port 631: Connection refused
[08:48] <jonah> TJ-: but I've just changed my config file again to have listen *:631 and now the curl works
[08:48] <TJ-> jonah: OK, so on PC2 check the service is running: "initctl status cups"
[08:48] <jonah> TJ-: ah it's now working!
[08:48] <emad> Ubuntu can't recognize my Fingerprint reader.I tried to install fbr gui but can't find a library.Can you help me?
[08:48] <TJ-> jonah: aha!
[08:49] <jonah> TJ-: thank you! It must be that I changed the config file but actually it was a combo of the initctl thing too
[08:49] <TJ-> emad: what is the device ID of the fingerprint reader? "lsusb" will show it if connected via USB
[08:49] <amazoniantoad> Is there anything like supercharger msi for ubuntu?
[08:49] <emad> ok
[08:49] <emad> Wait pls
[08:50] <jonah> TJ-: as before when I had *:631 i was getting the process already running thing, so change it back to default again in config to try again but really I just needed to restart with the initctl thing
[08:50] <emad> ID 138a:0007
[08:50] <TJ-> jonah: I think PC2 had a stray cupsd process still running that wasn't under control of the service manager
[08:50] <TJ-> jonah: glad we got you sorted :)
[08:51] <jonah> TJ-: ok great, just trying a full reboot now to check it starts up right! thank you very much, it's fantastic how you helped like that. and thanks to ocean too!
[08:51] <TJ-> emad: so a Validity Sensors VF451 ?
[08:51] <jonah> ocean: as above, thanks!
[08:51] <emad> TJ
[08:51] <emad> yes
[08:51] <TJ-> emad: OK, let me check the libraries see if they support it
[08:51] <emad> ok
[08:51] <emad> tyt
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> amazoniantoad: maybe with wine?
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> amazoniantoad: cant find anything usefull for ubuntu
[08:54] <TJ-> emad: have you installed 'libfprint0' and maybe 'libfprint-demo'
[08:54] <emad> yes
[08:54] <emad> Idid
[08:54] <noregret> TJ-: thanks =)
[08:54] <amazoniantoad> lotuspsychje: thanks anyway. I think I found a driver for the device i have. Zoom
[08:55] <TJ-> emad: I'm trying to confirm your device is supported, bear with me
[08:56] <emad> Sure, Thank you for helping me.tyt
[08:56] <kangooL> hi everybody! I have a networking problem: I have 2 NICs, one connected to a private LAN and one that connects to the internet. When both are up I can't connect to the internet, but if I down the private one, I can ! It seems that when both are up, the DNS is wrong for the internet NIC, but it does have its own DNS in its config oO
[08:56] <ikonia> kangooL: it sounds like your default route is not the internet nic
[08:57] <TJ-> emad: It looks as if the Validity Sensors devices aren't supported. See: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/fprint/libfprint/Unsupported_devices/
[08:58] <emad> Thank you, Tj.
[09:00] <TJ-> emad: There is support for 3 models of Validity, but not your device (in Ubuntu 15.10)
[09:00] <TJ-> emad: I'm looking at the source-code for libfprint
[09:01] <emad> Oh! Thanks : )
[09:02] <kangooL> ikonia this is my routing table: http://pastebin.com/qVkX7rGB
[09:03] <TJ-> emad: these are the devices recognised: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12997669/
[09:04] <TJ-> emad: It may be worth you contacting the libfprint developers directly and asking about support for your device; they may be able to add it with some help from you
[09:04] <emad> How can I?
[09:05] <emad> Launchpad?
[09:05] <TJ-> emad: via their project mailing list: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/fprint/Mailing_list/
[09:06] <emad> Ok, I really appreciate your support.Thank you sir/mam.
[09:09] <kangooL> ikonia: this is my routing table: http://pastebin.com/qVkX7rGB
[09:11] <ikonia> kangooL: so the device eno16777736 has to be up and running for you to work
[09:11] <TJ-> kangooL: are you using /etc/network/interfaces to configure it? can you show that file? It sounds like you've probably set a 'gateway' for both interfaces and the private LAN interface comes up last
[09:11] <ikonia> yes, both seem to be using the default gateway
[09:19] <kangooL> ikonia: TJ- : i'm using nmcli for everything :3 the thing is that i can ping, so it's not a route issue ! I actually just got it to work: it's a VM and the "public" nic is using a NAT, and the NAT gateway needs to be the DNS adress. It seems to work for now...
[09:20] <TJ-> kangooL: ahhh, so not a routing issue then!
[09:20] <kangooL> ikonia: TJ- : thanks :D
[09:21] <noregret> i'm adding an account to evolution, after I'm done with the wizard, nothing gets added to the accounts list.. anybody faced that kind of thing before? no matter how many times i add the account, it just won't appear in the accounts list
[09:22] <mikhael_k33hl> I have a website that generates a graph/image, and I want to set it to full screen, is there any utility I can use for it? F11 to make it full screen still has the other stuff on it
[09:24] <noregret> just found this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution-data-server/+bug/1061195 :/
[09:27] <cooldharma06> hi all
[09:27] <cooldharma06> anybody have experience with rsyslog? i need some suggestions. :)
[09:28] <hateball> !ask
[09:30] <cooldharma06> i have two machines one is client one is centralized server (logging server). from client i am able to send log to server.
[09:31] <cooldharma06> but i need to filter or seperate the message with the keyword. need some suggestions to achieve this one.
[09:39] <dupingping> Hey, everybody. Please help me, I want to get ebooks related to using and programming on Linux and or Ubuntu and or RedHat, etc
[09:40] <cfhowlett> dupingping, redhat?  obviously wrong channel for that.
[09:40] <TJ-> dupingping: Linux changes so fast any book is out-of-date as soon as it is published... best to track more informal documentation, mailing-lists, or the source code itself
[09:41] <dupingping> cfhowlett, oh, then just about ubuntu.
[09:41] <cfhowlett> what TJ said ... check amazon.  heck most programs provide their own documentation, for example python offers LOTS of free books.
[09:42] <dupingping> TJ-, however, although it is an old book, i can found some useful information from it.
[09:42] <brokenbutwhole> ?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> dupingping, http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html
[09:47] <za-softcodes> hi
[09:48] <za-softcodes> want help installing scipy==0.14.0
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> !info scipy
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> za-softcodes: you mean python-scipy?
[09:50] <za-softcodes> yes
[09:50] <za-softcodes> am i at the right place
[09:51] <za-softcodes> ImportError: liblapack.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> !info python3-scipy | za-softcodes
[09:54] <adityan> hi
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> adityan: welcome, what can we do for you
[10:04] <noregret> dig and host resolves pc.company.local correctly, but ping/firefox isn't, why is that?
[10:06] <acosonic> after recent upgrade, probably of apache or some module permissions are not good anymore...
[10:06] <grimx> I'm running Ubuntu 15.10. I can't seem to get 720p HTML5 videos in Youtube on Firefox 41.0.2
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> grimx: did you try other browser?
[10:08] <acosonic> hm, nope I did it :)
[10:08] <grimx> Well, on my other box this links has the option for 720p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIib5fYaRfA
[10:09] <syg> i am looking for a good way to get notifications for my gmail in my menu and launcher, anyone know a good setup? i've tried unity-webapp-preview with no sucess
[10:10] <lotuspsychje> !info gm-notify | syg
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> syg: you will have to enable suspicious apps in gmail settings to get it working
[10:11] <grimx> +lotuspsychje: It works on the Ubuntu web browser, but not Firefox
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> grimx: you have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[10:12] <grimx> Yes
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> weird
[10:13] <syg> lotuspsychje: thanks for the heads up, i was getting invalid account with it right now
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> syg: yeah gmail blocks it by default, see gmail settings
[10:13] <diarapat> test
[10:13] <cfhowlett> !test | diarapat
[10:13] <lotuspsychje> grimx: yt link plays fine on my machine here
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> grimx: can you try firefox on the guest account, see if it plays?
[10:16] <erlangNoob> Hello! How do i install erlang OTP 17 on the latest ubuntu i just installed?
[10:17] <grimx> +lotuspsychje: I don't think Badger, uBlock or Ghostery would cause the problem. Would it?
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> grimx: that could block perhaps yes
[10:18] <Ben64> erlangNoob: sudo apt-get install erlang?
[10:18] <erlangNoob> i'm interested in 17 not 18
[10:18] <erlangNoob> i m,ean an older version
[10:19] <Ben64> erlangNoob: find a ppa, compile it yourself, or install 15.04, which will die in January
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> erlangNoob: wich ubuntu version are you on?
[10:20] <mockingshrew> Hello!
[10:20] <grimx> +lotuspsychje: I disabled them, and still can't get 720p
[10:20] <erlangNoob> Latest i found on the website lotuspsychje
[10:20] <lotuspsychje> erlangNoob: 14.04 still uses 16
[10:20] <erlangNoob> https://www.erlang-solutions.com/downloads/download-erlang-otp
[10:21] <syg> lotuspsychje: can this tell me of notifications in my launcher?
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> grimx: try the guest account mate
[10:22] <lotuspsychje> syg: no only in notification area
[10:23] <syg> lotuspsychje: i suppose i can live with that
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> syg: you can email sound too, i use it myself
[10:23] <syg> i added a sound, hope it helps enough
[10:24] <syg> thanks lotuspsychje
[10:27] <mflow> Can I revert overwitten files from an ext4 filesystem in a specific directory ?
[10:27] <Ben64> explain more
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> mflow: get lost data back?
[10:29] <mflow> I have overwritten some files with rsync
[10:29] <mflow> I need to revert back the changes written by rsync
[10:29] <mflow> so the files where overwritten , I need to get back to the previous versions of those files
[10:29] <Ben64> very unlikely
[10:29] <Ben64> if they are truly overwritten, impossible
[10:30] <lotuspsychje> mflow: try scan the whole hd with photorec, for lost data
[10:31] <CoJaBo> I fricking hate rsync :/
[10:31] <mflow> lotuspsychje: not sure if that will help, as the files aren't deleted, just overwritten with new data
[10:31] <mflow> I want to get the old data
[10:31] <TJ-> mflow: without backups, then no
[10:32] <CoJaBo> Try photorec; it'll either work or it won't.
[10:32] <CoJaBo> Overwriting files often, but not always, ends up putting the new data in a different location. So there might still be some chance, unless --inplace was used
[10:34] <simone_> !List
[10:34] <syg> lotuspsychje: you don't happen to know a good app for google music do you? :x
[10:34] <musique> ah ? ericdez
[10:35] <mflow> CoJaBo: haven't used --inplace
[10:35] <CoJaBo> mflow: Then you stand a chance with photorec.
[10:35] <Twirl> anyone knows if something can break or something if i switch from 15.04 to 15.10 ?
[10:36] <Ben64> Twirl: sure, its always possible that something will break
[10:36] <syg> Twirl: that's a really loaded question, but i upgraded earlier without any issues
[10:36] <cfhowlett> Twirl, yes.  of course.  (vague questions >>> vague answers)
[10:36] <CoJaBo> mflow: Depending on the type of data, it may be easy or quite difficult to actually locate the files tho; read up on photorec, if they can be recovered at all, it's probably your best bet
[10:36] <pkircher> test it in a vm and see for your sel
[10:36] <pkircher> f
[10:36] <mcphail> Twirl: if you don't switch, something will break in 3 months when 15.04 goes out of support
[10:36] <pkircher> noone can answer that without knowing what you have running
[10:36] <syg> pkircher's answer is the best
[10:37] <syg> vm and test for yourself
[10:37] <Twirl> i have hundreds of packages installed and im worried to break something and have to spend time i dont have to fix it
[10:37] <CoJaBo> pkircher: 9 times out of 10, it breaks a driver tho, which probably wouldn't accurately simulate in a VM >_>
[10:37] <Humorousone> Good morning
[10:37] <Ben64> actually, most problems are caused by having non standard packages/repositories
[10:37] <CoJaBo> Twirl: Backup the system, upgrade, rollback if it derps.
[10:37] <syg> CoJaBo: good point
[10:37] <mcphail> Twirl: you have 3 months to upgrade, so you'll need to make time fairly soon
[10:37] <Twirl> CoJaBo: backup the system how?
[10:37] <pkircher> true .. but you spot the more obvious problems with a vm
[10:38] <syg> Twirl: are you running anything super edge?
[10:38] <syg> like weird mods and such
[10:38] <CoJaBo> Twirl: Whichever method you prefer; personally, I like to dd the entire drive if I can
[10:39] <Twirl> CoJaBo: lol its 750GB, u got one of those to spare?
[10:39] <Twirl> syg: yea i said i had hundreds of packages
[10:39] <Humorousone> I'm having an issue with my monitor settings.. U15.10 keeps loading and applying monitor settings in an infinite loop
[10:39] <CoJaBo> Twirl: Yeh, it'd probably be too slow on that even if you did have the space lol
[10:39] <syg> Twirl: we all have hundreds of packages, i'm talking really edge case stuff, maybe some compiz mods, or some de, or something like that
[10:39] <pkircher> i still love the idea of haveing the most stuff cgroup isolated when ever possible
[10:39] <pkircher> ..
[10:40] <Twirl> syg: yep
[10:40] <syg> and a 750gb os partition is huge...
[10:40] <Humorousone> Syslog and Xorg log stuff details here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/690658/screen-flashes-white-every-few-seconds-15-10-hp-dv6
[10:40] <syg> do you have your /home directory outside of that?
[10:40] <CoJaBo> For a drive that large, I usually seperate the OS and data partitions
[10:41] <CoJaBo> Be sure to backup the . files in home tho if you care about your GUI configs. I forgot that once, and it nuked everything :/
[10:41] <syg> i only run a 40gb / root and i have a ton of packages
[10:41] <Twirl> well maybe its time to switch to a 500GB SSD
[10:41] <syg> it's probably time to analyze why your partition is so huge
[10:41] <Twirl> wish i had 150€ lmao
[10:41] <mcphail> Twirl: if you have 750GB of stuff, and no backup, the operating system upgrade is the least of your worries
[10:41] <syg> even at hundreds of packages, 750gb is wild
[10:42] <noregret> dig and host resolves pc.company.local correctly, but ping/firefox isn't, why is that? am I missing something?
[10:42] <Twirl> mcphail: yea i know, i dont have money to buy new drives at the moment, although im considering to switch to an SSD and keep the current one as a backup
[10:42] <Twirl> but that will take 2 days of work and im not sure i can afford that atm
[10:42] <mcphail> Twirl: well, your data cannot be particularly important to you, then
[10:43] <Twirl> yes its just that i dont have time
[10:43] <Twirl> well, question is answered, back to work, ty
[10:43] <johnny_linux> have a good day
[10:43] <Twirl> same
[10:43] <Humorousone> ...can someone please help... this monitor settings thing is doing my head in >.<
[10:45] <mcphail> Humorousone: do you get as far as the login screen?
[10:45] <Humorousone> mcphail: Yes, it get through fine. Although as soon as the login screen appears, the screen settings things starts happening
[10:46] <Humorousone> As soon as something graphical appears, the screen starts flashing every few seconds. Checking the log shows it's doing something with screen settings?
[10:46] <Humorousone> It's doing it as we speak. The active window flashes white
[10:47] <mcphail> Humorousone: and these are integrated AMD graphics?
[10:47] <Humorousone> yep
[10:48] <mcphail> Humorousone: shared RAM? Have you checked the RAM?
[10:48] <Humorousone> memtest?
[10:48] <mcphail> yep
[10:48] <mcphail> Humorousone: I had vaguely similar problems years ago
[10:49] <Humorousone> Alright, I've got a live usb here, I'll give that a go now
[10:49] <Humorousone> thank you, I'll be back soon.
[10:49] <Humorousone> btw, does memtest cover VRAM and RAM?
[10:49] <mcphail> Hope it gives you a lead
[10:50] <mcphail> Humorousone: no - it won't test VRAM but the shared graphics often consume some of the normal RAM
[10:51] <mcphail> Humorousone: the current APUs use normal RAM, and some of the old integrated Mobos did as well
[10:51] <Humorousone> alright
[10:51] <Humorousone> as a side note
[10:51] <Humorousone> last light I tried messing around with some settings. I rotated the screen  by 90 degrees through the monitor settings
[10:52] <Humorousone> It reset the monitor back to normal, then reset the monitor back to 90 degrees
[10:52] <Humorousone> in a loop
[10:52] <derbie> I found the erlang version i want for ubuntu precice, trusty, utopic, vivid. But i have the latest. Is that an issue?
[10:52] <Humorousone> every few seconds.
[10:53] <derbie> And if it is, which ubuntu of those do you recommend to install
[10:53] <mcphail> Humorousone: and your current problems have only started since then?
[10:54] <Humorousone> no, they've happened since I installed ubuntu
[10:54] <Ben64> derbie: it might be an issue, this channel doesn't support any packages not from ubuntu
[10:54] <mcphail> aah. ok
[10:54] <derbie> I understand
[10:54] <Humorousone> mcphail: I previously had W10 installed on this laptop. Had some fun driver issues with it which I couldn't fix
[10:54] <derbie> I'm just looking to install erlang OTP < v 18 (e.g. 17)
[10:54] <inerkick> Hi. I got Ubuntu 14.04. I got an issue with Ctrl click on browser. Whenever I hold on Ctrl key, and wherever the mouse is, it opens up new tab in firefox. And even I can keep typing on any chat interface. It keeps backspacing my text(deleting). Kindly help
[10:55] <Ben64> derbie: why? isn't 18 better
[10:55] <Humorousone> mcphail: So I gave up, and installed ubuntu. It didn't flash with windows 10, although I had some issues with some drivers that windows update installed breaking perforance
[10:55] <derbie> The erlang application i want to extend can't run on 18
[10:55] <inerkick> even with any windows , holdig ctrl key it takes as clicking.
[10:56] <mcphail> derbie: why not istall 14.04 in a virtual machine? That way you won't mess up your current install
[10:56] <derbie> i did
[10:57] <derbie> It's just that maybe i should install either precise/trusty/tuopic/vivid
[10:57] <capsicum1> Having issue, unable to stop container, just one container. all other containers stop as expected.
[10:57] <Ben64> out of those, trusty
[10:57] <derbie> Ok
[10:57] <mcphail> derbie: trusty _is_ 14.04
[10:57] <derbie> Oh
[10:58] <derbie> The package is of bad quality
[10:58] <derbie> o.0
[10:59] <derbie> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[10:59] <derbie> ah nevermind
[10:59] <derbie> i think it's a small issue
[10:59] <musique> thnx
[10:59] <derbie> Failed to load package list.
[11:01] <Humorousone> Thank you for your help so far mcphail, I'm going to give a memtest a go now
[11:01] <Humorousone> brb
[11:09] <derbie> i think it worked
[11:09] <derbie> despite the warnings and errors
[11:32] <f0o> Good morning, I tried to flash my nexus4 with Ubuntu Touch, it goes through fine up to the point 'Rebooting into recovery to flash' - the phone reboots but it says 'This phone needs restoring from a PC or service center' - Any pointers?
[11:32] <Vallu> terve
[11:32] <kkaljamaha> moi
[11:32] <Vallu> no moi
[11:32] <terveee> moi
[11:32] <Vallu> haistakaa paska
[11:33] <terveee> bensaaaaa
[11:33] <kkaljamaha> tervee moi ja vallu moi
[11:33] <terveee> !!!!
[11:33] <hateball> !ops
[11:33] <Vallu> RÄJÄHDYKSIÄ
[11:33] <Guest41330> query nathy
[11:33] <terveee> help
[11:33] <kkaljamaha> no help
[11:33] <Vallu> fuck you
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> f0o: try in #ubuntu-touch mate
[11:36] <f0o> lotuspsychje: thanks
[11:41] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:42] <Guest25429> How can I install a desktop environment when I didn't select one, I have just a basic shell
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> Guest25429: wich ubuntu did you install
[11:43] <Guest25429> 14.04
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> Guest25429: server?
[11:45] <Guest25429> no
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> Guest25429: unity is default on 14.04 desktop
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> Guest25429: can you explain whats happening?
[11:46] <Guest25429> There is no unity I selected expert installation without any desktop environment
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> Guest25429: wich ubuntu installer is that? minimal?
[11:47] <Guest25429> I don't, this is not of importance, I just have a basic shell at boot, how can  I install a desktop environment
[11:48] <Humorousone> hello, I'm back. Memtest came clean
[11:48] <Guest25429> become root and then apt-get update and apt-get install desktop-unity or so
[11:48] <Guest25429> would that work
[11:49] <BluesKaj> well then Guest25429 if you didn't choose a DE then you didn't get one, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for Unity DE
[11:53] <Hounddog> Hi i have a service which i need to configure startup optios however i have no idea where the file for this is located. its not in /etc/init nor /etc/init.d what other places could a service be located at?
[11:58] <Humorousone> this is odd.. It seems suspending and de-suspending ubuntu temporarily stops the flashing..
[11:58] <Humorousone> weird..
[11:58] <Humorousone> At least it's not flashed in the few minutes since I opened this laptop again
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> Hounddog: your on 14.04?
[11:59] <Hounddog> lotuspsychje: i finally found them in lib/systemd/system  and /etc/sysconfig
[12:02] <lotuspsychje> Hounddog: http://www.howtogeek.com/216454/how-to-manage-systemd-services-on-a-linux-system/
[12:03] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: its best to re-ask your issue to the channel with all things you tryed
[12:04] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks
[12:04] <Humorousone> I've been having an issue with my monitor settings being applied over and over again in a loop of some kind
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: wich settings have you applied?
[12:05] <Humorousone> From the point anything graphical is shown on screen, the active window (or background) will flash over and over again
[12:05] <Humorousone> ever few seconds.
[12:06] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: It happens with default settings, although if I change the settings, it alternates between default settings and my settings
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: tell us more of your layout, ubuntu version?grafix driver/card? dual screens?
[12:06] <ububeginner1212> hi guys, i've a problem with the setup, i've done swap / and /home, but i'm not able to work on this laptop asus
[12:06] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: For example, I set my screen to 90degree rotation. Ever few seconds it goes 90 degrees, back to normal, back to 90degrees
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> !swap | ububeginner1212
[12:07] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: U15.10, I'm on a laptop. I posted some more detail on an askubuntu thread.
[12:07] <Humorousone> I'll get that for you.
[12:07] <ububeginner1212> hi lotuspsychje, the problem is the bios
[12:07] <Humorousone> http://askubuntu.com/questions/690658/screen-flashes-white-every-few-seconds-15-10-hp-dv6
[12:07] <ububeginner1212> i've aptio megatrend
[12:08] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: Only a single screen. I haven't tested it with a projected monitor.
[12:08] <ububeginner1212> i've create partion in msdos, but bios doesn't work
[12:08] <inerkick> I got this issue. Kindly help http://askubuntu.com/questions/691472/autoclicking-when-press-hold-the-ctrl-key-and-a-mousepointer-on-my-ubuntu-mate-1
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: did you try this on LTS?
[12:08] <ububeginner1212> before they were created in gpt
[12:09] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: Yep. I installed the LTS first, then 15.10. Both had the same issue, on both the live CD's and the installed versions.
[12:10] <ububeginner1212> how can i do legacy mode in bios? i'm not able
[12:10] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: I had some serious driver performance issues with W10 before I installed ubuntu
[12:10] <krux_> legacy mode?
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: did you try a nomodeset?
[12:10] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: Sorry, I'm pretty new to linux. how would I go about doing that?
[12:10] <ububeginner1212> yes, i've bought this laptop with win8.1
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Humorousone
[12:10] <krux_> wouldn't legacy mode settings be set in the bios?
[12:11] <Nicholas> ubuntu is much better than windows 10
[12:11] <ububeginner1212> krux: there's not that option
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: you want single boot ubuntu?
[12:11] <krux_> Nicholas, Ubuntu is much better for you
[12:11] <ububeginner1212> yes lotuspsychje
[12:11] <Nicholas> krux_ ?
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: did you disable fastboot and secureboot?
[12:12] <ububeginner1212> i've deleted win, yes
[12:12] <Nicholas> i think its better for most people
[12:12] <ububeginner1212> this bios is aptio
[12:12] <ububeginner1212> my pc is asus p553m
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: did you disable fastboot and secureboot?
[12:12] <ububeginner1212> yes
[12:12] <Humorousone> I will give that a go now lotuspsychje ,  thank you
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: good luck :p
[12:13] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: so tell us what happens when you try to install ubuntu
[12:14] <ububeginner1212> i'm in live mode
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: ok, whats next?
[12:14] <Nicholas> i have tried a lot of distros. though i keep coming to ubuntu
[12:14] <Nicholas> back*
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | Nicholas
[12:14] <Nicholas> ok sorry lotuspsychje
[12:14] <musique> thnx
[12:15] <ububeginner1212> i've already installed it on this machine, but it doesn't start at the reboot
[12:15] <ububeginner1212> i'm in live now
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: what happens
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: where does it get stuck?
[12:16] <ububeginner1212> the screen is black and there's only a flashing point
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: wich ubuntu version?
[12:16] <ububeginner1212> 14.04
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: you absolute 100% sure you disabled fastboot and secureboot in bios?
[12:17] <ububeginner1212> i've done  already gparted with 3 partions
[12:17] <ububeginner1212> yes sir
[12:17] <ububeginner1212> there s also a os selection: win 7 or 8
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: installed in legacy mode?
[12:18] <ububeginner1212> but i'm not to delete this option
[12:18] <ububeginner1212> *able
[12:18] <ububeginner1212> yes sir, i've created partion in msdos
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: did you use auto partitioning or manual?
[12:18] <ububeginner1212> manual
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: from ubuntu right
[12:19] <ububeginner1212> yes
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: wich grafix card is this
[12:19] <ububeginner1212> intel
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: optimus card?
[12:19] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: Running with nomode set right now... RIP performance
[12:19] <ububeginner1212> intel
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> intel only?
[12:20] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: it's taking a good half second for the window animations to play
[12:20] <ububeginner1212> intel 4400
[12:20] <ububeginner1212> is a laptop
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: yes its test mode, the flickering is gone?
[12:21] <Humorousone> I'll have to keep trying for a sec
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: maybe check additional drivers section for other driver?
[12:21] <Humorousone> but so far, yes lotuspsychje
[12:21] <ububeginner1212> i think the problem is in the bios of this laptop
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: did you upgrade to 15.10 from 15.04?
[12:21] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: I tried the proprietary drivers, but it started kicking me back to the logon screen when I enabled them and restarted
[12:21] <Humorousone> nope, clean install.
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> hmmz
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: sounds like a radeon bug
[12:22] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: it's quite likely... but I have no clue either
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: how about loading previous kernels, would this help?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: doublecheck everything in bios mate
[12:23] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: how would I go about doing that?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | ububeginner1212 fastboot and secureboot must be off
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: hold shift at boot to enter grub, then load previous ubuntu kernel
[12:23] <Humorousone> alright, i'll try that now too.
[12:24] <Humorousone> back in a bit.
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: so
[12:24] <Humorousone> :) lotuspsychje
[12:24] <ububeginner1212> are off  fast and secur lotuspsychje
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: only 2 drivers show up?
[12:24] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: in the additional drivers menu?
[12:24] <ububeginner1212> so there's not a solution?
[12:24] <Humorousone> no, three show up
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: yes
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: try the 3rd too perhaps?
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: lets test it all :p
[12:25] <Humorousone> will do, although I'm worried whether or not it will start kicking me back to the logon screen again
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: makes no sense, 14.04 should be installing liek acharm
[12:25] <Humorousone> I just ended up doing a clean install last time.
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | Humorousone when things go wrong
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: you can fix broken packages from the recoverymode
[12:26] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: awesome.
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: try 14.04 live, and auto partitioning instead of manual?
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: maybe something went wrong with manual?
[12:26] <ububeginner1212> i'm in live
[12:27] <Humorousone> be right back.
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: yes, try the auto partioning
[12:27] <ububeginner1212> ok
[12:27] <anthony_> hi,have any one use dell xps 13D-8808 laptop install ubuntu 15.10 ? my touchpad not working.
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> ububeginner1212: some intel mobo's also have an intel bios option to block other Os install
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> anth0ny: check your syslog for ACPI errors
[12:28] <disconnected> Hey, I've just downloaded/installed updates on my ubuntu and it restarted into grub console
[12:28] <disconnected> anyone had such issue?
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> disconnected: ubuntu version?
[12:28] <disconnected> 15.04
[12:28] <disconnected> or 15.10 not sure
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> disconnected: can you load up ubuntu from grub then after?
[12:29] <disconnected> I am not sure how to do it :-(
[12:29] <disconnected> s/am not sure/don't know/
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> disconnected: just hit enter on ubuntu
[12:29] <disconnected> It doesn't show me grub menu
[12:29] <disconnected> it shows grub console
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> disconnected: you cant enter normal grub with holding shift?
[12:31] <disconnected> let me see
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: any luck?
[12:35] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: I've started with nomodeset, and I've just enabled the proprietary drivers.. Will they work immediately?
[12:35] <Humorousone> or should I restart first
[12:35] <anthony_> \q
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: reboot would be usefull yes
[12:36] <disconnected> lotuspsychje: shift does nothing
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> disconnected: holding shift
[12:36] <Humorousone> lotuspsychje: alright, I'll give that a go. If I don't come bck in a few minutes that means that it's crashing me upon logon
[12:36] <Humorousone> brb
[12:36] <Humorousone> (hopefully)
[12:36] <lotuspsychje> Humorousone: kk
[12:37] <disconnected> I've  got a screen "GNU GRUB version 2.02~beta2-22ubuntu1.2" "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported~~"
[12:37] <disconnected> Holding shift also does nothing
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> disconnected: thats not 16.04 daily your trying right?
[12:38] <disconnected> yeah, it is 15.04
[12:38] <disconnected> it was working
[12:38] <disconnected> just an update screen popped, so I pressed "okay"
[12:38] <disconnected> and after some minutes (I guess it installed) my computer restarted
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> !recovergrub | disconnected try this maybe
[12:39] <disconnected> uh, it requires the live cd.. I will try to find a way to boot ubuntu and to fix grub from it
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> disconnected: or maybe choose faster way and clean install 15.10?
[12:42]  * Guest11315 slaps ubuntu3 around a bit with a large fishbot
[12:43] <disconnected> lotuspsychje: maybe, but I have a lot of stuff already installed
[12:43] <disconnected> but probably that's not bad idea since latest ubuntu might work better with my nvidia card...
[12:45] <lotuspsychje> disconnected: you can choose install next to 15.04 and not loosing your /home
[12:45] <disconnected> and can I then copy all files from my home and remove 15.04?
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> disconnected: the ubuntu setup will save your /home
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> disconnected: just make sure you choose install next to, not clean install
[12:48] <disconnected> or I can just copy files to my windows drive ;p
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> disconnected: if you can still enter sure
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> disconnected: external backups are always safer
[12:50] <krux_> ahoy there!
[12:50] <johnny_linux> ahoy there matey
[12:51] <krux_> Thus thy have some interesting news for a geekaneer?
[12:52] <cfhowlett> !details | krux
[12:54] <krux_> echo "friendly greeting" &2>/dev/null
[13:02] <humorousone> back
[13:02] <humorousone> it didn't go well.
[13:02] <humorousone> it freezes at the screen with the loading dots.... and the dots are the only thing onscreen.
[13:02] <humorousone> I'm on my PC now. windows, funnily enough lotuspsychje
[13:02] <humorousone> ;)
[13:03] <humorousone> lotuspsychje: I've got my laptop here with a root shell in recovery, not sure exactly where to go from here.
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> humorousone: try the fix broken packages option from recoverymode
[13:06] <humorousone> lotuspsychje: alright
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> humorousone: might be worth to make a bug in your case mate
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> !bug | humorousone
[13:14] <ljosberinn> hi! is it possible to run some command on the machine itself and then see the progress (output) of that command by ssh-ing to it?
[13:15] <ljosberinn> like, seeing the output of some other tty i suppose..
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> ljosberinn: a kind of teleport ssh?
[13:18] <Pici> ljosberinn: the easiest way would to be to run your command inside of a screen or tmux session
[13:18] <Pici> .36
[13:19] <ljosberinn> ah, screen, yeah! will try with it, thanks!
[13:24] <humorousone> lotuspsychje: hmm, 'temporary failure resolving 'gb.archive.ubuntu.com'
[13:24] <humorousone> It errored when I tried to enable networking earlier
[13:24] <humorousone> and yeah, I'll create a bu report then
[13:25] <humorousone> I just need to reenable the original drivers now
[13:27] <Anthaas> In librecalc is it possible to drag a formula across numerous cells but change the column rather than the row, for example =QUARTILE(A2:A10,0), when dragged becomes =QUARTILE(B2:B10, 0) instead of =QUARTILE(A3:A11,0) ?
[13:28] <bekks> When you drag it across columns, the columns change, when dragging across rows, the rows change.
[13:28] <Anthaas> Is there a way to drag it across rows and change the columns?
[13:30] <humorousone> uhoh...
[13:30] <humorousone> now my laptop screen isn't turning on...
[13:31] <humorousone> no bios screen
[13:31] <humorousone> crap.
[13:31] <neopsyche> hello
 Question. how much space needed for ubuntu main install directory vs space for home dir?
 I have 128gig hdd.
 could I use 20GIG for /
 100gig for /home
 ?
[13:31] <auronandace> neopsyche: yes, that is plenty of space
[13:32] <sysdoc> I'm upgrading Ubuntu and apt-get is asking for the file comparison, I selected to view the differences of the files, how do ya get out of the text and back to the install to select which file to choose?
[13:32] <neopsyche> ?
[13:33] <Pici> sysdoc: press q
[13:33] <neopsyche> auronandace could i push it to 10? or would that be too far?
[13:33] <noregret> where can I configure NSS ? i'm having trouble with name resolution
[13:33] <sysdoc> Pici: whew... thank you sir
[13:33] <bekks> neopsyche: you normally wont need more than 5-10G for your home. All "data" like your Videos, Musik, etc. can be separated to /data
[13:33] <k1l_> neopsyche: something around 15G for /.
[13:33] <auronandace> neopsyche: depends what you are going to install, i've had 10gb partitions for / in the past but nowadays they get quite close to full
[13:34] <neopsyche> ok so 20gig for /?
[13:34] <neopsyche> the OS data is stored in / right?
[13:34] <k1l_> neopsyche: its just too much trouble if you run out of space in /
[13:34] <k1l_> neopsyche: yes.
[13:34] <neopsyche> ok
[13:34] <neopsyche> so 20gig is a good balance
[13:34] <neopsyche> can i resize my drive ?
[13:35] <neopsyche> I did 60 gig / 60gig home
[13:35] <k1l_> neopsyche: load the live ubuntu and resize with gparted
[13:35] <mcphail> neopsyche: why do you feel the need for separate partitions??
[13:35] <neopsyche> ok kll i hope that will work
[13:35] <NR87z> oh lord this room is so fullll
[13:35] <neopsyche> mcphail.. in case I need to retreive data from home dir.
[13:36] <bekks> neopsyche: then you should have a backup :)
[13:36] <neopsyche> NR87z better full than empty?
[13:36] <mcphail> neopsyche: That does not make it any easier...
[13:36] <neopsyche> it seems the auto partitioner makes separate partitions anyway
[13:36] <NR87z> neopsyche, Dude I hear that
[13:36] <neopsyche> last time I installed using encryption on the drive.. and I could not hibernate
[13:36] <mcphail> neopsyche: not in my experience
[13:36] <mcphail> neopsyche: aah - hiberantion
[13:37] <OerHeks> know issue, hybernate and encrypted swap do not work well.
[13:37] <mcphail> *hibernation
[13:37] <neopsyche> right.. so why dont they leave the swap (or make option to) leave swap unencrypted
[13:37] <Anthaas> Ugh - is it possible in LibreCalc to copy the formulae of all cells in one column and paste it into another column without it automatically changing the formula to increment the column?
[13:37] <auronandace> neopsyche: autopartitioning make / and swap (i haven't seen it make a separate /home)
[13:37] <neopsyche> so auto partition.. but then i choose encryption .. will it know to use the swap ?
[13:38] <k1l_> neopsyche: that is part of the encryption. data in swap in plain text will spoil it all
[13:38] <neopsyche> lol
[13:38] <neopsyche> yeah so its insecure anyway?
[13:38] <neopsyche> but then again.. can encrypt home dir. right? so whats the point of encrypted drive?
[13:38] <bellflower> Need advice. I am setting up Ubuntu with Gnome fallback (metacity) on an old laptop for a friend, and managed to get the Broadcom B4311 wifi to work,
[13:38] <auronandace> neopsyche: do you really need encryption? if you want to be ableto recover like you said earlier, encryption makes that extra tricky
[13:39] <mcphail> neopsyche: encrypted swap is fine, but you won't be able to hibernate
[13:39] <bellflower> but it is requiring me to enter commands in terminal after each reboot to re-enable it.
[13:39] <k1l_> neopsyche: its different models/stages of encryption. IMHO for most users a small container to put the data in that needs to be encrypted is enough
[13:39] <mcphail> neopsyche: you can still suspend, though
[13:39] <neopsyche> well.. i thought it was 'cool' to encrypt when i saw the option on 14.04 .. little did I know after installing and trying sophos (advanced for me) It changed my file perms or something and borked my system
[13:40] <mcphail> neopsyche: encrpyion is cool until _you_ need to recover the data :)
[13:40] <neopsyche> Is it possible to use 2048bit crypto on home dir files?
[13:40] <bellflower> The command used are ... sudo modprobe -r b43  ... sudo modprobe b43 ... sudo rfkill unblock all   (How can I automate this to not require terminal input each reboot?
[13:40] <mcphail> neopsyche: default was 1024 when I last checked. Don't know if that can be changed??
[13:40] <neopsyche> I found encfs works nicely for dropbox etc.
[13:41] <neopsyche> hah. at least if dropbox has another .. 'open day' then we will at least not be totally naked with encfs :-D
[13:41] <neopsyche> but i have a suspicion that all this encryption is smoke and mirrors becuase a lot of the keys are stored at companies that make the encryption.. so which encryption to use on my home dir that does not have backdoors?
[13:42] <bviktor> any ideas why sssd fails to start?
[13:42] <bviktor> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=jsSVHqh6
[13:43] <bviktor> i'm following this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html
[13:43] <mcphail> neopsyche: any backdoors in the default Ubuntu encryption setup are purely unintentional
[13:43] <bviktor> this config works on 14.04, but not on 15.04
[13:43] <LeartS> So Ubuntu 15.10 wily is supposed to use Gnome "disappearing" scrollbars, but they doesn't seem to work for me: I see a normal large scrollbar
[13:43] <BluesKaj> neopsyche, encrypting swap is not needed, in fact even swap isn't needed if you have more than 4G RAM as a normal user
[13:43] <mcphail> LeartS: they work here. Are you on Unity? Have you changed themes etc?
[13:43] <neopsyche> mcphail: sure.. i know.  its because of universe-ugly, (for the most part, otherwise unknown backdoors)  but what encryption can I use on home dir.. that uses something solid.. by open source people.
[13:44] <LeartS> mcphail: yes on unity. Using numix theme, I'll try with the standard one
[13:44] <mcphail> BluesKaj: he want to hibernate
[13:44] <bellflower> Yes, I'm a novice. So, how can I get three terminal commands to automatically entered at startup?
[13:44] <neopsyche> blueskaj: i was getting a lot of crashes on 14.04 with the nasty bug kworker
[13:44] <neopsyche> on 15.04 with swap and encryption.. no kworker issue yet
[13:44] <LeartS> mcphail: you're right, with ambiance they work
[13:45] <BluesKaj> hmm odd, 14.04 is very stable
[13:45] <mcphail> LeartS: maybe your theme will be updated?
[13:45] <OerHeks> give kworker more hdd space :-)
[13:45] <neopsyche> mcphail; it has something to do with ACPI (i think) and the linux kernel updates
[13:45] <neopsyche> the endless tradeoff between development and bugs
[13:46] <mcphail> neopsyche: hibernation has always been a mess. The kernel developers aren't interested in it
[13:46] <LeartS> I hope, I like it very much. While we are in the argument; I also see gnome apps with client side decorations / headerbar are rendered kinda badly on Unity (both with radiance and numix theme)
[13:46] <neopsyche> mcphail; well its working for the first time ever on my dell.
[13:46] <neopsyche> so nice to be able to boot up and have all the stuff running just where it was.
[13:46] <mcphail> LeartS: Unity doen't use a lot of the decoration, I'm afraid
[13:46] <LeartS> Is it normal? Any plans as to when will they be supported well?
[13:47] <bellflower> Any ideas?
[13:47] <mcphail> LeartS: I think it is a deliberate design decision
[13:47] <disconnected> `/wc
[13:47] <neopsyche> LeartS: Perhaps try mBuntu.  I know some purists might not like it.. but the mac design has a very long standing development.. and refinement.
[13:48] <jesper_> hey
[13:48] <jesper_> no ones on
[13:49] <neopsyche> ok. i think i am going to have fun trying to not break my ubuntu by resizing with gparted.
[13:49] <neopsyche> then i am going to have fun trying to not break ubuntu upgrading to wearewolf ;-D
[13:49] <bellflower> HAs package selection (including desktop enviroments) been removed in installation, or is that just a difference between mini.iso net install and standard iso install?
[13:53] <OerHeks> bellflower, that alacarte tool is only on the mini and server iso indeed.
[13:53] <bellflower> OerHeks, Thanks :)
[13:54] <OerHeks> bellflower, after installing a regular iso with desktop, you can install/run it yourself
[13:54] <OerHeks> or use softwarecenter
[13:54] <NR87z> Does anyone have any advice on resolving Dependacy problems with X2Go?
[13:55] <bellflower> Any info or ideas on how to get a laptop to run terminal commands automatically at startup, or alternative to entering - sudo modprobe -r b43 ... sudo modprobe b43 ... sudo rfkill unblock all ... after each reboot to enable wifi?
[13:55] <k1l_> NR87z: depends on the exact errormessages. put all the output into a pastebinb
[13:55] <k1l_> *pastebin
[13:56] <NR87z> The X2Go agent, as part of a leger install of X2Go Server, will not install because of dependancy problems specifically with nxagent
[13:56] <NR87z> @bellflower, init Script?
[13:56] <bellflower> NR87z, I'm a noob. No idea.
[13:56] <Xat`> I need a package in version 1.4. This package is not available in repo, even backports
[13:57] <Xat`> on Ubuntu 12.04
[13:57] <NR87z> @bellflower, Sec I'll try and find you some info
[13:57] <NR87z> I'd be glad to work with you on this if you need it
[13:58] <NR87z> @bellflower, Which Version of Ubuntu Are you running?
[13:59] <NR87z> http://pastebin.com/xFSDe1pK
[13:59] <NR87z> Thanks's all
[13:59] <bellflower> I think 14.04 LTS, 32 bit. Not sure which release but install was redownloaded yesterday, so should be latest LTS.
[14:00] <Xat`> I need a package in version 1.4. This package is not available in repo, even backports . I'm using 12.04 . This package is available from 14.04, can I use it ?
[14:01] <NR87z> @bellflower, Cool thanks. Let me do some digging.
[14:01] <OerHeks> Xat`, maybe if you build it yourself. hard to say if you don't give the package name
[14:01] <circ-user-aKoqF> #wordpress
[14:01] <aliasd> Trying to scp a tarball to the server over satellite, get this error: Received disconnect from 185.53.131.56: 2: Packet corrupt
[14:01] <bellflower> @NR87z, It's Ubuntu 14.04 32 bit, running on Gnome fallback (metacity) to work on an older laptop.
[14:01] <carl_> I'm trying to configure vnc... and there's some sort of problem finding xrdb
[14:01] <Xat`> OerHeks: jq 1.4 version
[14:02] <k1l_> NR87z: your 3rd party repo is broken. tell them to fix it
[14:02] <bellflower> @NR87z, I spent most of yesterday getting the old Broadcom b4311 to work, but it is requiring those three terminal commands to enable it each time.
[14:02] <David______> Hi All, I have installed Ubuntu on virtualbox and usally I copy the text in a terminal using only the selection. but it doesn't work.. anyone have a idea?
[14:02] <NR87z> @ k1l_, how can you tell?
[14:03] <NR87z> @Bellflow and I assume you want to make a script that will run those commands on start up?
[14:03] <k1l_> NR87z: its not in the ubuntu repos. so it comes from a 3rd party repo.
[14:03] <OerHeks> Xat`, maybe you can build it yourself. i would suggest to upgrade to 14.04 lts
[14:03] <bellflower> @NR87z, Correct.  ...unless any better way to automate or fix it.
[14:03] <NR87z> @k1l_, right but how do you know it's BROKEN
[14:04] <k1l_> NR87z: and its that 3rd party packages that have bad depencies. so there is nothing ubuntu can do. talk to them
[14:04] <NR87z> @bellflower https://mobiarch.wordpress.com/2014/05/16/creating-an-init-script-in-ubuntu-14-04/
[14:04] <aliasd> Trying to scp a tarball to the server over satellite, get this error: "Received disconnect from 185.53.131.56: 2: Packet corrupt" Usually at around 8mb, I tried running rsync through the tunnel but same effect, tried turning off checksum offload with ethtool, same.... Is it possible to send/resume a file transfer over ssh?
[14:04] <NR87z> @k1l_ Fair enough. I'll start looking for an alternative Solution. Thanks for your help
[14:04] <carl_> how do I copy from the terminal ?
[14:04] <NR87z> cp <Source> <Destination>
[14:05] <carl_> I want to copy and paste the error message here
[14:05] <NR87z> @Bellflower does what I sent you make sese?
[14:05] <NR87z> @Carl please use pastebin.com for that
[14:06] <carl_> it's just lines, and then I'd still not know how to copy it
[14:06] <hateball> carl_: ctrl+shift+c
[14:06] <hateball> !paste | carl_
[14:06] <carl_> ty
[14:06] <NR87z> !paste | NR87z
[14:06] <NR87z> hmm
[14:07] <bellflower> @NR87z, Somewhat, I think. It will take me a moment to digest. More or less, type my commands in gedit, save it in etc/init.d ... then register it(?)
[14:12] <carl_> cntrl-shift-c isn't working
[14:13] <noregret> i installed and configured libnss-ldapd and i still can't resolve names in a domain.. what am i missing?
[14:13] <DJ___> womp
[14:13] <DJ___> @Bellflower got disconnected missed any message you may have sent
[14:16] <disconnected> Ok guys, this is interesting
[14:16] <disconnected> I've got Windows and Ubuntu on different UEFI partitions (one drive)
[14:16] <disconnected> Today I've installed updates for ubuntu 15.04 and it restarted - now the only thing I can see is grub console (not the menu! I can't choose ubuntu or windows)
[14:16] <disconnected> I can boot windows by pressing special key on my laptop to launch boot menu
[14:16] <carl_> rebooting then crying
[14:16] <DJ___> window /3
[14:16] <disconnected> whenever I boot ubuntu I get this grub console
[14:16] <disconnected> Now I downloaded ubuntu iso and created uefi bootable pendrive
[14:17] <disconnected> I can boot it, I can see its grub - whether I choose "try ubuntu" or "install ubuntu" in the end my laptop restarts and goes back into grub console
[14:20] <carl_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12999208/ if anyone wants to help me w/ my vnc setup
[14:22] <bellflower> @disconnected, I had a similar issue after trying to make a mirror copy of an external HDD. boot-repair application fixed it for me.
[14:22] <bellflower> Except my Grub prompt said some sort of Grub Recovery promt.
[14:23] <bellflower> Or maybe it was grub-repair. Use a google search, my memory sucks.
[14:23] <Skyrider> I know this isn't exactly a 'teamspeak' support channel, so I'll alter the question.. Im trying to run a init.d script to run under a specific user.. but when trying to run it under another account (using sudo).. shell is asking for a password.
[14:23] <Skyrider> Why.
[14:24] <bellflower> @Skyrider, I am interested in an answer to the same question. I need a few sudo commands to run without requesting any input.
[14:25] <mont> helllo
[14:25] <bellflower> I am currently ready and commenting on https://mobiarch.wordpress.com/2014/05/16/creating-an-init-script-in-ubuntu-14-04/ trying to figure out how. (The Anastasia B. comment is mine.)
[14:26] <bellflower> reading*
[14:26] <Skyrider> Good to know bellflower.
[14:26] <Skyrider> But I also used the cmd --disabled-login at adduser.
[14:26] <Skyrider> So... login isn't even allowed.. so why the heck for a password req.
[14:27] <Skyrider> lol..
[14:27] <Skyrider> I checked the users permissions..
[14:27] <Skyrider> It clearly states "No password required"
[14:27] <Skyrider> Yet, shell asks for a password.
[14:27] <bellflower> @Skyrider, It's likely a byproduct or conflict of the changes in user credential between what is stated in the init script and the sudo command itself.
[14:28] <carl_> there doesn't seem to be a .Xresources file ?
[14:28] <Skyrider> Maybe it has to do with the su=/bin/su line?
[14:31] <bellflower> @Skyrider, I'm still quite a noob, and this doesn't seem to be very well documented. It seems the su {username} -c should override any (sudo) credentials once the script runs.
[14:32] <akik> bellflower: su command is not directly connected to the sudo command
[14:32] <bellflower> @Skyrider, I meant, that while the script runs, it should be running as whoever is entered as "su {username}", regardless of who runs the script itself, even "sudo".
[14:32] <Ryzzan> hi there, everybody...
[14:32] <Skyrider> akik any idea why the init.d script requests a password of the user then?
[14:33] <Skyrider> I'd like to run the sh command under that user, without it asking for a password.
[14:33] <akik> Skyrider: are you running the script under which user account?
[14:33] <Skyrider> user=teamspeak3 / while I'm under a different user atm
[14:33] <akik> Skyrider: init scripts are run by root, thus not needing the password for user joe
[14:34] <Skyrider> sudo service teamspeak3 start --> Password:
[14:34] <Skyrider> teamspeak3's settings are that login is temp disabled + no password required.
[14:34] <EriC^^> Skyrider: don't use sudo, use su and it wont ask for a password i guess
[14:34] <akik> Skyrider: sudo service teamspeak3 start is asking for your own password
[14:35] <bellflower> @akik, So in my case, since it is already regarded as "root", my script could simply be the commands I would have otherwise had to enter in terminal?
[14:35] <Skyrider> *smacks head*
[14:35] <Skyrider> really?.. I thought I already logged in.. as such I didn't expect that
[14:35] <Skyrider> let me try
[14:35] <Ryzzan> i'm trying to configure my laptop (with gnome ubuntu) on my work network... i'm setting ipv4 with address 192.168.0.119, netmask 255.255.255.0, gw 192.168.0.253, dns 192.168.0.200... when i do it on windows, everything works just fine, but not working when on ubuntu
[14:36] <Skyrider> akik: sorry mate, su: Authentication failure
[14:36] <akik> bellflower: what is already regarded as root?
[14:36] <Skyrider> Its requesting the users password
[14:36] <Skyrider> not mine.
[14:36] <bellflower> running the commands via init.d
[14:37] <akik> bellflower: yes but no. if you're root, that script does not ask for the user joe password
[14:37] <Skyrider> very, very, strange.
[14:37] <akik> bellflower: init.d scripts are run by the root account, but they are just scripts which an ordinary user can try to start
[14:37] <bellflower> @akik, It is needed to run at startup, to automate and avoid user input being required. (a script to enable wifi adapter on startup).
[14:38] <Ryzzan> i'm trying to configure my laptop (with gnome ubuntu) on my work network... i'm setting ipv4 with address 192.168.0.119, netmask 255.255.255.0, gw 192.168.0.253, dns 192.168.0.200... when i do it on windows, everything works just fine, but not working when on ubuntu
[14:38] <Ryzzan> is there anything i'm missing?
[14:38] <Skyrider> root@ps410842:/etc/init.d# service teamspeak3 start --> Password:
[14:38] <akik> bellflower: during system startup, those init.d scripts are run by root user
[14:39] <Skyrider> Even when running the init.d script under root.. still asks for a password.
[14:39] <EriC^^> Skyrider: that's probably the password for the teamspeak program
[14:39] <bellflower> @Ryzzan, HAve you checked that the wifi adapter is enabled and working under Ubuntu? Some have proprietary drivers or need different configs to enable outside of Win.
[14:40] <Ryzzan> @bellflower, i'm trying to set an wired connection, not the wi-fi
[14:40] <akik> Skyrider: did you paste the teamspeak3 script somewhere?
[14:40] <Skyrider> 1 sec. I'll pastebin the script I currently use
[14:40] <akik> what a wonderful time we'll have when trying to debug systemd authorizations
[14:40] <Skyrider> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12999335/
[14:41] <bellflower> @Ryzzan, It could be similar reasons for your ethernet adapter. Can you look up which adapter or chipset it uses from the Windows boot, then google - Ubuntu {your adapter} - ...to see if there may be known issues or required drivers?
[14:42] <akik> Skyrider: if you run "/bin/su - teamspeak3" as root, are you asked for a password?
[14:42] <Ryzzan> @bellflower, but it works just fine at home, when using dhcp
[14:42] <Ryzzan> @bellflower, so the problem is not adapter, probably
[14:43] <Skyrider> akik: logs me in as teamspeak3, without pass requirement
[14:43] <sui> Ryzzan: can you ping your gateway? did you configure the right interface? do you have sth like a mac filter @work
[14:44] <bellflower> @Ryzzan, That sounds correct. Sounds more like a router DHCP incompatability.
[14:44] <Skyrider> teamspeak3@ps410842:~$ service teamspeak3 start --> password:
[14:44] <Skyrider> thats strange..
[14:44] <Ryzzan> @sui, gonna check it up
[14:44] <akik> skyrider: when you switched to the root account, did you use which command?
[14:44] <bellflower> @Ryzzan, Defining your LAN IP may be useful at home, but may not work with most LAN setups elsewhere. IS there a reason to specify that subnet IP instead of getting one automatically?
[14:45] <Skyrider> ?
[14:45] <Skyrider> akik maybe important to share that the init.d script is a symlink
[14:45] <akik> 16:38 < Skyrider> root@ps410842:/etc/init.d# service teamspeak3 start --> Password:
[14:45] <akik> Skyrider: when switching to the root account, you should always use either "su -" or "sudo su -"
[14:46] <bindi> and what about 'sudo -i'?
[14:46] <Ryzzan> @bellflower, dhcp won't work @work
[14:46] <akik> sudo -i is good too
[14:47] <akik> skyrider: when you switched to the root account, did you use which command?
[14:47] <k1l_> akik: dont use su on ubuntu. use sudo -i or sudo -s
[14:47] <Skyrider> sudo -s
[14:47] <Ryzzan> @sui, pinging gw, so i'd say the right interface is configured
[14:47] <akik> old dog has to learn new tricks
[14:47] <VanReyes> Evening
[14:47] <sui> Ryzzan: what's not working at all?
[14:48] <bellflower> @Ryzzan, It could be as simple as some routers using a 192.168.0.X scheme and others using 192.168.1.X scheme.
[14:48] <Ryzzan> @sui, if i had this mac filter, windows wouldn't work as well, would it?
[14:48] <sui> Ryzzan: you don't get access to external websites?
[14:48] <Ryzzan> @sui, the internet
[14:48] <decci> Hi
[14:48] <Ryzzan> @sui, yep
[14:48] <noregret> im' trying to resolve local machines with FQDN, so i have setup libnss-ldapd (https://bpaste.net/show/7a1ac12da3c5) but still failing, can i get help in debugging and fixing it?
[14:48] <decci> Anyone who have worked with debreator
[14:48] <sui> Ryzzan: i suppose it's not on your box. is it a dual boot machine with windows on the same host?
[14:49] <decci> The build process is taking huge time
[14:49] <Ryzzan> @sui, yep... dual boot
[14:49] <Skyrider> Ya.. I'm still lost :D, even removing the symlink, make it executable, still asks for a pass.
[14:49] <sui> ok, then it's the same interface with the same mac adress
[14:49] <decci> Any idea how to see what goes behind the curtains
[14:49] <akik> Skyrider: the only command you basically run is "/etc/init.d/teamspeak3 start" which translates to '/bin/su - teamspeak3 -c "cd /usr/local/teamspeak3;./ts3server_startscript.sh start"'
[14:49] <Ryzzan> @sui, and, as said, i can ping gw on ubuntu...
[14:49] <sui> Ryzzan: do you need to add routes manually?
[14:50] <mont> Just 6 minutes to install and run ubuntu 15.04, other distros took me over one hour, great installer
[14:50] <Ryzzan> @sui, i did it in ubuntu same way i did on windows
[14:50] <akik> Skyrider: i wonder if that ./ts3server_startscript.sh has something tricky in there. not so clean way to make a script
[14:50] <VanReyes> Good evening, I want to ask about apache2 in ubuntu. Currently, I uploading my site in amazon and I selected ubuntu 14.x for the instance. After uploading. The home page is only working (domain.com), but other pages are not working (domain.com/page1). But when I try to change it to domain.com/index.php/page1 all pages are working. How can I fix this?
[14:50] <Ryzzan> @sui, same adresses
[14:50] <oldgrump> My Lubuntu 15.10 system fails to fully boot after follwing these instructions: http://askubuntu.com/a/149658
[14:50] <Skyrider> let me check
[14:50] <Ryzzan> i'm setting ipv4 with address 192.168.0.119, netmask 255.255.255.0, gw 192.168.0.253, dns 192.168.0.200...
[14:50] <sui> Ryzzan: if you can see your gateway and browse your internal network you have to ask someone who manages your gateway
[14:50] <bellflower> @sui, He mentioned that at work, DHCP is not available, or does not allocate IPs.
[14:50] <oldgrump> Removing the file allows the system to boot.
[14:51] <VanReyes> Anyone?
[14:51] <Ryzzan> @sui, actually i just saw i can't browse my internal network... but ping the gw
[14:52] <Ryzzan> @sui, "network guys" r not around today... guees i'm going to have to use windows... :(
[14:52] <VanReyes> Anyone also encounter the same problem with mine?
[14:52] <Skyrider> ugh
[14:52] <akik> Skyrider: you can split the debugging in two  '/bin/su - teamspeak3' (no password asked) then as teamspeak3 user 'cd /usr/local/teamspeak3;./ts3server_startscript.sh start'
[14:52] <Skyrider> I think.. I know what's going on
[14:52] <Skyrider> the startup script it executes, is the init.d script.
[14:52] <sui> bellflower: sometimes theres no dhcp. it's uncommon, but we have the same @work
[14:52] <Skyrider> It might loop.
[14:52] <akik> hehe
[14:53] <Skyrider> Not sure why it would ask for a password then.. maybe because it runs under a different directory..
[14:53] <Skyrider> let me restore the original file.
[14:53] <Ryzzan> @sui, ty...
[14:53] <Ryzzan> c ya
[14:53] <VanReyes>  Good evening, I want to ask about apache2 in ubuntu. Currently, I uploading my site in amazon and I selected ubuntu 14.x for the instance. After uploading. The home page is only working (domain.com), but other pages are not working (domain.com/page1). But when I try to change it to domain.com/index.php/page1 all pages are working. How can I fix this?
[14:53] <bellflower> Re: startup init scripts, does each command need a delimiter such as ;
[14:53] <SchrodingersScat> VanReyes: did you make your apache root index.php?
[14:54] <oldgrump> Will X fail to start if I make a typo in a configuration file?
[14:54] <Skyrider> yay!
[14:54] <Skyrider> Thanks..
[14:54] <Skyrider> Couldnt believe I didn't see the loop
[14:54] <akik> Skyrider: what was it?
[14:55] <Skyrider> I used a init.d script on the internet, but the init.d script was symlinked to the executable script.
[14:55] <Skyrider> So.. it looped.
[14:55] <Skyrider> I removed the symlink, made an original init.d script, and restored the original sh file.
[14:55] <VanReyes> SchrodingersScat: In my 000-default.conf my document root is this.
[14:55] <VanReyes> DocumentRoot /var/www/myfolder/
[14:56] <oldgrump> Should I ask elsewhere?
[14:56] <VanReyes> in apache2.conf
[14:56] <VanReyes> only this
[14:56] <VanReyes> <Directory /var/www>
[14:56] <akik> Skyrider/bellflower: don't worry, soon you will embrace systemd
[14:56] <Skyrider> :p
[14:56] <Skyrider> Thanks, appreciate the help.
[14:56] <SchrodingersScat> VanReyes: and is it literally '/myfolder/'?
[14:57] <VanReyes> SchrodingersScat: the folder of the website files
[14:58] <noregret> I want to resolve local hosts in a domain, do i have to install libnss-ldapd? i'm on 15.05
[14:58] <seoner> why using ubuntu when you have debian?
[14:58] <noregret> 15.10 *
[14:59] <akik> noregret: dnsmasq is a easy solution for local dns. it uses /etc/hosts for the host information
[15:04] <bellflower> @akik, Cool! My first init.d startup script and it all works. :)
[15:04] <noregret> akik: i'm in a windows domain environment
[15:04] <noregret> akik: and just want to reach some hosts
[15:05] <akik> noregret: could you rephrase? you're on a windows 15.05 domain environment?
[15:05] <noregret> akik: my ubuntu machine is in a network with DC and AD
[15:06] <akik> noregret: doesn't matter in the world of tcp/ip
[15:06] <noregret> akik: and i want to reach hosts/servers by their name
[15:06] <noregret> akik: names such as svn.company.local
[15:06] <akik> noregret: dc and ad are services for windows and in some cases for unix
[15:06] <noregret> akik: dig/host can resolve that, but not ping/firefox for instance
[15:06] <noregret> yeah i get that
[15:06] <noregret> i just want to resolve the FQDN
[15:06] <akik> noregret: if ping doesn't reach your hosts, there are other problems
[15:07] <noregret> akik: i'm talking about resolving their names
[15:07] <wastrel> isn't there an internal dns server
[15:07] <noregret> akik: ping/firefox *don't resolve* their names, but dig/host do. get it?
[15:07] <noregret> wastrel: there is
[15:08] <akik> noregret: dig and host make dns queries, yes
[15:08] <noregret> akik: right, and ping/firefox use NSS, right ?
[15:09] <noregret> i tried installing libnss-ldapd, but it didn't succeed, still couldn't resolve
[15:09] <akik> noregret: ping uses the name resolver library. you might look into /etc/nsswitch.conf and /etc/resolv.conf
[15:09] <wastrel> nm-tool | grep DNS
[15:10] <noregret> akik: yes, i installed libnss-ldaps which fixed nsswitch.conf by adding ldap next to the groups
[15:10] <noregret> still can't resolve
[15:10] <noregret> what else should I for ?
[15:10] <noregret> should I look*
[15:10] <noregret> wastrel: don't have that tool
[15:10] <akik> noregret: what does nsswitch.conf say on the hosts line?
[15:10] <wastrel> you're not using network manager?
[15:10] <noregret> akik: hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns ldap
[15:11] <akik> noregret: and do you have a working dns server setup in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[15:11] <akik> noregret: lines with nameserver
[15:11] <bellflower> Request for opinions... What would you recommend as desktop env for an old laptop (slow and no Unity, less than 1gb ram), for somebody accustomed to WinXP ?
[15:11] <noregret> akik: no, it points to 127.0.1.1 - i read that in the newer ubuntu version, they are placed elsewhere
[15:11] <noregret> akik: the nameservers ie
[15:12] <noregret> isn't that right ?
[15:12] <bellflower> ...and it's for a younger person, teenager.
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> !lubuntu | bellflower
[15:12] <bellflower> I was thinking Lubuntu, but it runs so well on my newer laptop, I wasn't sure of the overhead.
[15:12] <noregret> wastrel: nmcli dev show eno1 | grep -i dns - this gives the info you're asking for i guess, right ?
[15:12] <akik> noregret: 127.0.1.1 is dnsmasq i think. you can find out by "sudo netstat -tulpan | grep 53"
[15:13] <noregret> akik: aha, it is running
[15:13] <noregret> akik: prolly network-manager uses dnsmasq
[15:13] <noregret> brb
[15:15] <bruce_lee> \(^_^)/ @all
[15:15] <bruce_lee> I'm root at a old vps (Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS)
[15:15] <bruce_lee> I'm thinking about installing two different php-version on the same old vps (Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS)
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> !eol | bruce_lee
[15:15] <k1l_> bruce_lee: better plan an upgrade to 14.02 first
[15:16] <thebwt> bruce_lee: and that's crazy talk, better to breakt hem up with something like docker
[15:17] <thebwt> but get off 10.04 first
[15:17] <bruce_lee> the problem is, it's not my vps, I'm only root, it's working the way it should and the client doesn't really want an upgrade
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> bruce_lee: then the client will have security issues badly
[15:17] <thebwt> i mean, if they're okay with having outstanding CVEs and such, so be it
[15:17] <SchrodingersScat> and client cannot depend on support here then
[15:17] <k1l_> bruce_lee: well, it doesnt get any security updates anymore. better tell your client that before he is in the news
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:18] <bruce_lee> ok, I see
[15:18] <akik> anybody know where dnsmasq logs its actions?
[15:18] <quantic> bruce_lee: The mistake you're making is representing to the client that security updates or upgrades to supported releases is optional.
[15:19] <bruce_lee> it's only a vps, the hosting company takes care of most of the security stuff, right?
[15:20] <quantic> bruce_lee: No. "only a vps" = "it's a server."
[15:20] <k1l_> 10.04 is now 5 years old. one upgrade (or better a new install) every 5 years is ok. if you go for 14.04 now you still have support until 2019
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> bruce_lee: with an eol Os system can get hacked
[15:20] <quantic> bruce_lee: Who is your VPS provider?
[15:20] <k1l_> bruce_lee: no
[15:20] <bruce_lee> quantic: hosteurope
[15:21] <quantic> bruce_lee: unmanaged = updates and security are your responsibility.
[15:21] <k1l_> bruce_lee: http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/  just scroll down to see what issues get fixed all the time when it still got support. are you gonna patch the security issues yourself now?
[15:21] <quantic> bruce_lee: Maintenance window. Upgrade your stuff.
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> bruce_lee: take the good advice from what you hear, and convince your client :p
[15:22] <quantic> bruce_lee: check pms
[15:22] <akik> noregret: look into /var/log/syslog. you should see dnsmasq lines in there
[15:22] <bruce_lee> ok, after an update to the latest ubuntu-lts, is it a good idea to run two different php-versions (5.3 + 5.5) on the same vps?
[15:22] <akik> noregret: i think why it's not working for you is that the dns servers dnsmasq sees are not working for your queries
[15:22] <bellflower> @bruce_lee, What they said. Explain the concerns to the client, otherwise they will come blaming you if or when anything goes wrong.
[15:22] <quantic> bruce_lee: php 5.3 is also EOL and unsupported.
[15:23] <chinga> wtf is with keyserver.ubuntu.com&
[15:23] <chinga> wtf is with keyserver.ubuntu.com?
[15:23] <SchrodingersScat> !language | chinga
[15:23] <chinga> Hello evrey one
[15:23] <chinga> can you  tell me is keyserver.ubuntu.com working now&
[15:23] <chinga> can you  tell me is keyserver.ubuntu.com working now?
[15:24] <chinga> when i try to apt-add-repository, i see next:
[15:24] <k1l_> chinga: yes
[15:24] <chinga> You are about to add the following PPA to your system:
[15:24] <chinga>  More info: https://launchpad.net/~ufirst/+archive/ubuntu/php5-oldsable
[15:24] <chinga> Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it
[15:24] <chinga> gpg: keyring `/tmp/tmpVwRO1f/secring.gpg' created
[15:24] <chinga> gpg: keyring `/tmp/tmpVwRO1f/pubring.gpg' created
[15:24] <bruce_lee> ok, thank you guys, I'll try to convince my client
[15:25] <quantic> bruce_lee: The correct answer in the future is "I will not support EOL releases or software." Then when they whine about it, you can remind them.
[15:25] <chinga> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12999602/
[15:26] <lotuspsychje> ioria: good afternoon
[15:27] <ioria> hello lotuspsychje , how  are you doing ?
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> !discuss > ioria fine tnx :p
[15:28] <ioria> ok
[15:29] <Peanut> Hi, I have ubuntu 15.10, and I would like to enable serial console. However, the 'serialconsolehowto' is about upstart, which I think is no longer used in Ubuntu 15.10?
[15:30] <SatoshiRole> Peanut: are you actually using a serial port?
[15:30] <Peanut> SatoshiRole: yes, via IPMI console redirection as I'm managing about 50 servers.
[15:32] <SatoshiRole> Peanut: Is that Intelligent Platform Management Interface
[15:32] <Peanut> SatoshiRole: correct. But my question is really, how do you start a getty on serial nowadays? It used to be in inittab, then moved to upstart, but I think 15.10 is systemd?
[15:32] <quantic> Peanut: I believe it can be done via grub.
[15:32] <Seveas> Peanut: correct, 15.10 uses systemd
[15:33] <Peanut> quantic: the Grub part I have already solved, I need the OS itself to start a terminal console once it runs.
[15:33] <Seveas> Peanut: look at /etc/init/tty1.conf, copy to ttyS0.conf and modify to your needs
[15:35] <Seveas> Peanut: err, discard that, that's an upstartism.
[15:35] <SatoshiRole> Peanut: This is The Arch Wiki, but it provided information on setting up Grub2
[15:35] <SatoshiRole> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Working_with_the_serial_console
[15:35] <Peanut> SatoshiRole: hmm.. yes, just found that too. Looking for a way to set the baudrate now.
[15:37] <SatoshiRole> Peanut: under GRUB v1 and No systemd, i see speed=9600, and a few other references as such.
[15:39] <ioria> Peanut, could be  of  any help  ?   http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/serial-console.html
[15:40] <Peanut> ioria: somewhat, but /usr/lib/systemd/system directory (and subdirectories) do not exist.
[15:40] <g105b_> test
[15:41] <SatoshiRole> Peanut: we already established that 15.10 doesn't come with systemd
[15:41] <ioria> Peanut, without  /usr , i  think
[15:41] <g105b> Hi guys, I'm logging into an old server, but the sources are all out of date (apt-get update doesn't work, provides this error message: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.) APT is trying to get maverick packages and failing. What's the best solution here to install a single package?
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> !maverick | g105b
[15:42] <SatoshiRole> g105b: find a .deb, or compile from source.
[15:42] <g105b> lotuspsychje: I'm aware of what Maverick is, and how old it is, but I wondered if it was possible / safe to change the sources list to look at later mirrors without having to upgrade the whole server.
[15:43] <SatoshiRole> g105b: no, it's not safe
[15:43] <akik> 15.10 doesn't come with systemd?
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> !eolupgrade | g105b
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> akik: yes it does
[15:44] <akik> oh must have understood satoshirole wrong
[15:44] <SatoshiRole> akik: no, I just may have been wrong, looking now
[15:45] <quantic> g105b: You're not going to get much other than a "you need to upgrade to a supported release." I will echo that statement.
[15:45] <akik> Peanut: look into /lib/systemd
[15:46] <g105b> quantic: SatoshiRole: lotuspsychje: thanks for your advice :)
[15:46] <akik> when you run systemctl enable the service files gets linked from /lib/systemd to /etc/systemd
[15:47] <keesj_> I am running 14:10 (utopic)on a few lxc-container instances and I am now trying to upgrade them. apt-get update gives me some 404 pages and apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't show me a new upgrade. I have read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades but can't find anything usefull
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> !14.10 | keesj_
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> keesj_  the people in #lxcontainers can tell you how to deal with lxc
[15:50] <mflow> Does anyone know if in photorec output a file with greater sector number means newer file?
[15:50] <mflow> Does anyone know if in photorec output a file with greater sector number means newer file? e.g. ./recup_dir.3151/f23339992.html vs ./recup_dir.3151/f24339992.html
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> hi MonkeyDust
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> mflow: what are you trying to do with that
[15:51] <mflow> lotuspsychje: find out the newest version of the file I'm trying to recover
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> mflow: you cant remember how big the file was i presume?
[15:53] <mflow> lotuspsychje: I can't
[15:53] <Valduare> so upgrade to 15.04   and my hard drive is stuck read only
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: wich version did you come from?
[15:54] <ioria> photorec should support list by modification date
[15:54] <Valduare> 14.04 I think
[15:54] <Valduare> it was the LTS
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: not very recommended to upgrade LTS to a non-LTS
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: better clean install 15.04 mate
[15:54] <Valduare> tried
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: uefi system?
[15:55] <Valduare> even booting to ubuntu live cd it wont let me change hd partition
[15:55] <django_> hey
[15:55] <mcphail> mflow: photorec has no way of telling whether one file is newer than the next
[15:55] <Valduare> its an hp dv4
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: single boot ubuntu?
[15:55] <Valduare> ya
[15:55] <django_> how do i access this file:
[15:56] <django_> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/d6P1ZWDN/Screenshot%20from%202015-10-29%2011%3A55%3A35.png
[15:56] <django_> from the terminal
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: did you disable fastboot and secureboot?
[15:56] <keesj_> lotuspsychje: thanks! I was missing the "old-releases" part.
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> keesj_: install a version from topic mate
[15:56] <elcot_> hi
[15:57] <thebwt> django_:  on a terminal, you'd "cd ~/Projects/"
[15:57] <thebwt> are you trying to modify it
[15:57] <mflow> mcphail: lotuspsychje so I guess I should sort the files by size and the bigger file is closer to the "truth"
[15:57] <django_> thebwt: ahh ty
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> mflow: how many of the 'same' kind of files do you have?
[15:57] <thebwt> django_: np
[15:57] <django_> thebwt: once im in there and  i wanna run a node mynode.js
[15:57] <django_> can i do that?
[15:57] <mflow> lotuspsychje: a few hundred
[15:58] <SatoshiRole> Peanut: akik: yep, i was wrong Ubuntu went to systemd on 15.04
[15:58] <mflow> lotuspsychje: for some files only a dozen
[15:58] <thebwt> umm, not sure try "node nightmare-test.js"
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> mfisch: what extension?
[15:58] <mflow> lotuspsychje: .txt, .php
[15:58] <mcphail> mflow: not necessarily, as the files might not be complete
[15:59] <Valduare> lotuspsychje: I havnt touched those
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> mflow: maybe sort by filetypes already in nautilus
[15:59] <Valduare> just peeked in bios didnt see anything about them
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: whats the default Os on your machine?
[15:59] <Valduare> I only have ubuntu
[15:59] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: yes but before that
[15:59] <Valduare> prob win 7
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> ok
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: locked partition in ubuntu setup sounds like something blocking in bios
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: you sure you cant see anything related to uefi?
[16:01] <Valduare> gparted I select the partitions and delete them and refresh and they are there again
[16:01] <Valduare> this dv4 is prob uefi  how do I check
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: official website
[16:03] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: check in bios, if you find uefi/legacy
[16:03] <Valduare> looks like bios
[16:03] <Valduare> dmesg | grep “EFI v”  lists nothing
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: goto bios physically
[16:05] <Valduare> bios version F.24
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: check if find something uefi/legacy
[16:09] <veleno> hi. on a LTS 14.04.03 i can’t apt-get update, it’ stuck with: “root@ubuntu:/home/ubuntu# apt-get update
[16:09] <veleno> 0% [Connecting to ch.archive.ubuntu.com (130.59.10.36)]”
[16:09] <veleno> i can ping the IP
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> veleno: did you add ppa's of any kind?
[16:10] <veleno> lotuspsychje:
[16:10] <veleno> no
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> veleno: wich country are you?
[16:10] <veleno> lotuspsychje: switzerland
[16:11] <Valduare> nothing
[16:11] <veleno> this is hte content of sources.list https://gist.github.com/vschiavoni/fa2453aa50f3a611dda9
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> veleno: ask in #ubuntu-mirrors for know swiss issues
[16:12] <veleno> lotuspsychje: doing that, thanks
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> veleno: you could try other sources perhaps
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> !sources | veleno
[16:14] <Valduare> lotuspsychje: its almost like the drive wont accept writes   and anything you write just goes into ram and is lost
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: not sure mate, but something must block it
[16:17] <Valduare> just ran dist-upgrade and it installed next version of kernel
[16:17] <TJ-> Valduare: many BIOS/firmware have a Boot Sector Virus Protection option, which tries to prevent sector 0 being changed, but that shouldn't be able to intercept an operating system
[16:17] <Valduare> reboot and none of the updates are there
[16:18] <Valduare> poking around in recovery mode now
[16:18] <Valduare> doing fsck
[16:20] <TJ-> Valduare: do we have a pastebin of "parted /dev/sda unit s print" anywhere?
[16:20] <SatoshiRole> !list
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> !factoids | SatoshiRole looking for this?
[16:21] <Valduare> no
[16:25] <Valduare> this is a kingston ssd
[16:25] <Valduare> smart test says its ok
[16:25] <syeekick> could i add a scanned folder to plex that will point to a spearate nas?
[16:26] <syeekick> and update the libary with the filse on the nas
[16:28] <bhavik> hey ! i cannot install anything
[16:28] <g105b> Hi guys, my server has had an SFTP-jailed user on it for a while. They log in and can only see their home directory. Now I want to be able to allow them access to another directory on disk - can I use a link for this? If so, how would I do this?
[16:28] <TJ-> bhavik: well done! You can't break anything either, then :)
[16:29] <k1l> bhavik: please show a "sudo apt update" in a pastebin
[16:29] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: did you put own ssd in your machine?
[16:29] <TJ-> k1l: what's the betting ... 14.10 ?
[16:29] <k1l> yep
[16:30]  * OerHeks goes for 9.04
[16:30] <k1l> its kind of really astonishing how much users are out there still running 14.10
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> its maverick
[16:30] <TJ-> Valduare: can you do "pastebinit <( sudo parted /dev/sda unit s print )" ?
[16:30] <TJ-> k1l: not really; I have lappies merrily still using 13.04 :)
[16:31] <k1l> o_O
[16:31] <mcphail> k1l: it is quite pleasant to not be bothered by updates all the time...
[16:32] <lotuspsychje> g105b: you just came here to ask us another issue on maverick
[16:32] <Valduare> pastebin.com/8FcmeULt
[16:33] <g105b> lotuspsychje: sorry for the questions, I have only just got round to going through my low priority todos for old servers.
[16:37] <Seveas> g105b: running releases that still get security updates is *not* a low-priority task
[16:38] <mcphail> g105b: your user will probably be able to access any directory using Shellshock, or similar, anyway
[16:38] <g105b> Seveas: I am aware of that, but I'm poor and can't help accepting to help people with old servers.
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> g105b: not very helpfull when system got hacked
[16:39] <g105b> I'll try and persuade them to upgrade things.
[16:39] <TJ-> Valduare: so /dev/sda1 is the root file-system?
[16:39] <Valduare> TJ-: ya
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: is your bios set from IDE to AHCI?
[16:40] <TJ-> Valduare: how are you determining that updates haven't 'stuck' ?
[16:40] <Valduare> no settings in bios for ahci or ide
[16:40] <quantic> g105b: you're the second person I say this to. Proper security updates/upgrades need to not be treated as optional or low priority.
[16:40] <Valduare> cause when I reboot it wants to run the same updates
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: you have a very weird bios mate...
[16:40] <Valduare> and the same files are re-downloaded in dropbox
[16:48] <ChuckIRC> anyone dual booting 15.04 and windows 10?
[16:49] <TJ-> Valduare: "pastebinit /var/log/apt/history.log"
[16:49] <Valduare> I should be able to pop in live cd and do fresh install shouldnt I?
[16:50] <Valduare> wonder if there is something wrong with the SSD
[16:50] <k1l> ChuckIRC: some are
[16:50] <TJ-> Valduare: no point doing that until you've found out what is going on
[16:50] <lotuspsychje> Valduare: if you have ssd, there must be a bios option AHCI somewhere
[16:51] <wehde> does anyone have a good tool for managing 70+ ubuntu machines that isn't landscape?
[16:51] <Valduare> Insydeh2O Setup Utility (bios)   rev 3.5
[16:51] <ChuckIRC> is it possible to have 2 different boot menus
[16:51] <wehde> looking for a open source program
[16:51] <Absolute0> I did a sudo apt-get update/upgrade yesterday and ever since my ubuntu box keeps crashing; how can I diagnose the problem? /var/log/faillog is a binary file...
[16:51] <Absolute0> what can I look for in syslog?
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> wehde: the #ubuntu-server guys might know a tool
[16:52] <wehde> lotuspsychje, thanks, ill ping them
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> wehde: 70 ubuntu machines sound like a nice project
[16:52] <thebwt> wehde: supposedly spacewalk can do some stuff
[16:53] <thebwt> wehde: and I've found that it can do -some- stuff
[16:53] <thebwt> that may be the direction to go, esp if you are also managing a bunch of centos
[16:53] <wehde> thebwt, spacewalk seems like its very geared towards redhat distros
[16:53] <ChuckIRC> when i bootup windows is my default so i get the nice graphical screen with the 2 choices. when i choose win10 it boots right in. But when i choose ubuntu it restarts the computer all the way to the bios screen and i have a completely differnt grub menu. is there a way to fix it from not restarting and just boot right into ubuntu
[16:53] <lotuspsychje> Absolute0: wich version of ubuntu?
[16:53] <thebwt> wehde: it is, but..
[16:53]  * thebwt is grabbing links
[16:53] <Absolute0> lotuspsychje: 14.04.3
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> ChuckIRC: you can make you life easy and single install ubuntu
[16:54] <wehde> thebwt, not really looking to hack something together
[16:54] <lotuspsychje> Absolute0: dmesg and syslog could be usefull
[16:54] <thebwt> wehde: I understand, there just anything premade for ubuntu outside of landscape atm (looking to do the same for a similar scale)
[16:54] <Absolute0> lotuspsychje: what can I search for in syslog?
[16:54] <thebwt> just isn't anything*
[16:55] <Absolute0> lotuspsychje: is nvidia the problem? I saw it on some blogs...
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> Absolute0: anything unusual, grafix could be yes
[16:55] <lotuspsychje> Absolute0: can you remember wich driver you have active?
[16:55] <helpmeout> How can i symlink python2.7 to python?
[16:55] <ChuckIRC> lotuspsychje, maybe one day. but as for now. my partner doesnt know/refuses to learn another OS. So dual boot is the only option
[16:55] <Absolute0> lotuspsychje: define unusual
[16:55] <helpmeout> So when I run python, it will launch 2.7 instead of the system python
[16:56] <wehde> thebwt, i'm seriously considering developing something on github to create a web management system for this type of stuff
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> Absolute0: errors, whoopsie, module not loaded,firmware bugs,etc
[16:56] <lotuspsychje> Absolute0: wich driver and grafix card plz?
[16:57] <thebwt> wehde: yea, the need is getting there as ubuntu gets corporate adoption picks up, but canonical's business model doesn't.
[16:57] <Absolute0> lotuspsychje: http://dpaste.com/2HTT6ZE
[16:57] <Absolute0> lotuspsychje: I thought chrome was the problem, but then I switched to opera and the same thing was happening
[16:58] <lotuspsychje> Absolute0: check card with sudo lshw -C video please
[16:58] <TJ-> helpmeout: update-alternatives manages the default versions of applications where multiple versions are installed
[16:58] <ChuckIRC> so i guess my question is. Is there a way to take off ubuntus GRUB menu without causing any errors booting up
[16:58] <Absolute0> lotuspsychje:  product: GK106 [GeForce GTX 660]
[16:59] <lotuspsychje> Absolute0: tryed another driver from your additional drivers list?
[17:00] <lotuspsychje> ChuckIRC: we would reccomend grub, but ask in ##windows if they know something else to manage
[17:00] <TJ-> ChuckIRC: it sounds like you've got 2 sets of GRUB installed, and the first is chainloading the 2nd
[17:00] <zubuntu> hello
[17:00] <zubuntu> everybody
[17:00] <zubuntu> i am having an issue on ubuntu 15.04
[17:01] <zubuntu> can somebody help me?
[17:01] <Absolute0> lotuspsychje: not crashing yet... maybe installing nvidia-current was the fix...
[17:01] <zubuntu> i installed gnome session fallback
[17:01] <zubuntu> then dragged terminal icon on to desktop
[17:01] <slhawkins> ChuckIRC: Are you trying to use the Windows bootloader instead of Grub?
[17:01] <zubuntu> but it doesnt appear there
[17:01] <TJ-> ChuckIRC: that, or if you're seeing the UEFI POST again because GRUB is handing back to the firmware
[17:01] <zubuntu> it is hidden
[17:01] <zubuntu> how can i make it appear?
[17:01] <zubuntu> other apps icons working good
[17:01] <zubuntu> just terminal doesnt appear
[17:02] <TJ-> ChuckIRC: If it is a UEFI system, both Windows and Ubuntu should be in the firmware's boot-menu, and GRUB shouldn't be managing anything but Ubuntu
[17:02] <zubuntu> hello?
[17:03] <ChuckIRC> TJ-, yes. its just super annoying that it reboots itself into grub and having to choose ubuntu again.
[17:04] <zubuntu> something is going wrong with the ubuntu
[17:04] <zubuntu> :S
[17:04] <TJ-> ChuckIRC: sounds like you need check the GRUB configuration once its booted in Ubuntu
[17:04] <zubuntu> i just wanted to click on time and date setting by clicking on the time at right-top
[17:04] <zubuntu> it didnt response
[17:05] <zubuntu> hello?
[17:12] <gregf_> hello
[17:15] <gregf_> ah - nevrmind. sudo apt-get clean fixed it :|
[17:21] <Humorousone_> ok so, I've been having big graphical issues with this laptop
[17:21] <bviktor> i'd like to install packages via scripts, but a certain package has some post-install config (ncurses i think). how can i provide answers to those questions via the script?
[17:22] <Humorousone_> I've been trying out a different AMD driver, and it crashed my machine, so I uninstalled it via root shell in recovery mode
[17:22] <Humorousone_> it kept crashing my machine prior to reaching the logon screen
[17:23] <Humorousone_> now each time it boots the ubuntu logo is low-res text, and it shows some garbled text on screen before becoming wierdly corrupted, and the logon screen loads.
[17:23] <Humorousone_> performance is now worse than it was with nomodeset
[17:23] <drown> howdy all
[17:24] <Humorousone_> any suggestions on how to fix this? Short of reinstalling?
[17:25] <Humorousone_> I have to say, even though it probably isn't entirely it's fault, ubuntu isn't leaving a good impression on me so far.. >.>
[17:25] <NR87z> Is the Community avaialable to answer some questions About the Latest Ubuntu Server?
[17:26] <drown> what's your question
[17:26] <mcphail> Humorousone_: still causing problems?
[17:26] <NR87z> I'm wondering what draw backs y'all see migrating from Debian 7 to Ubuntu Server 15.10, How is application Support? I need things like X2Go, Java 8, and Would like to switch to Ubuntu.
[17:26] <Humorousone_> yep mcphail
[17:27] <NR87z> Namely For running Jira, Confluence, Apache, and mail server in the Short term
[17:27] <Humorousone_> I might actually just have to reinstall windows 7 >.>
[17:27] <mcphail> Humorousone_: are the windows still flashing?
[17:27] <Humorousone_> wait for possibly a CCC driver update from amd
[17:27] <Humorousone_> not anymore.. but it's running like it's on nomodeset
[17:27] <Humorousone_> even slower in face
[17:27] <mcphail> Humorousone_: low res?
[17:27] <Humorousone_> fact
[17:28] <drown> what is your reason from moving from Deb?
[17:28] <Humorousone_> nope
[17:28] <Humorousone_> the startup screen is low res though. all text
[17:28] <mcphail> Humorousone_: what driver are you using now?
[17:28] <Humorousone_> Xorg driver
[17:28] <Humorousone_> although it's tanked performance
[17:28] <NR87z> There is a lot of documentation out there. And Certain Applications I need like X2Go Are broken in Deb 7 at the moment
[17:28] <mcphail> Humorousone_: radeon or mesa driver?
[17:28] <Humorousone_> mcphail: could you elaborate?
[17:29] <Humorousone_> I believe i'm using radeon
[17:29] <mcphail> Humorousone_: can you install "mesa-utils" then run "glxinfo | grep direct" to see if it says yes or no
[17:30] <drown> I'd recommend using 14.04
[17:30] <drown> Ubuntu is of course Debian based,
[17:31] <drown> the LTS versions are based on Debian Stable
[17:31] <Humorousone_> mcphail: "X error of failed request (integer parameter out of range)..."
[17:31] <Humorousone_> 0_o
[17:32] <NR87z> But The Repositories are different correct? They contain packages tested with the LTS and should be stable and working
[17:32] <mcphail> Humorousone_: very odd... Do you have a file called /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[17:33] <drown> Well a lot of packages in Ubuntu are from Deb Unstable as well
[17:33] <drown> but they're conservative about migrating them to Ubuntu,so it's possible that the X2go will be a working one.
[17:33] <Humorousone_> mcphail: I have an Xorg.conf.failsafe
[17:33] <charlesmax> any recommendations on formatting a drive to read/write both from mac and ubuntu (and backup mac with time machine on)? The internet is all over the place on that question
[17:34] <Humorousone_> but no xorg.conf
[17:34] <mcphail> Humorousone_: good
[17:34] <drown> Java 8 should be available.
[17:34] <mcphail> Humorousone_: what is the native resolution of your screen?
[17:35] <NR87z> Yeah cause to run some Jira tools I have to have Java 1.8+ and ended up having to install oracle java on my VPS
[17:35] <Humorousone_> 1368x768
[17:35] <NR87z> I guess I will test in a VM
[17:35] <VO2WB-Brandin-NL> Hello, I am running Ubuntu Server and I can't remove or install any programs without seeing this message: E: The package pop-before-smtp needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. ... is there a way to get rid of this?
[17:36] <TJ-> VO2WB-Brandin-NL: "sudo dpkg --purge pop-before-smtp"
[17:37] <VO2WB-Brandin-NL> TJ- This is what I now get: http://pastebin.com/pLgYEn0n
[17:38] <mcphail> Humorousone_: aargh. That's an awkward size as there won't be a built-in edid file for it
[17:38] <EvilCorp_IT_Tech> What is the latest LiveCD Out today?
[17:38] <TJ-> VO2WB-Brandin-NL: try "sudo dpkg --configure pop-before-smtp"
[17:38] <VO2WB-Brandin-NL> OK
[17:39] <VO2WB-Brandin-NL> Same error shows up/
[17:39] <TJ-> VO2WB-Brandin-NL: looks like something bad happened somewhere
[17:39] <OerHeks> EvilCorp_IT_Tech, see /topic
[17:39] <TJ-> VO2WB-Brandin-NL: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install poop-before-smtp"
[17:39] <Humorousone_> mcphail: I think doing a reinstall at this point would be the easiest thing to fix
[17:40] <EvilCorp_IT_Tech> Sorry
[17:40] <TJ-> VO2WB-Brandin-NL: typo pop not poop :p
[17:40] <Humorousone_> mcphail: I have very few programs install right now, so I might do that.
[17:40] <VO2WB-Brandin-NL> :) OK
[17:40] <mcphail> Humorousone_: I wonder if you still have some of the proprietary driver installed. Did you run "sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*"?
[17:40] <VO2WB-Brandin-NL> Now it is telling me my original message ==> E: The package pop-before-smtp needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it.
[17:40] <drown> i was going to suggest testing with vm
[17:41] <TJ-> VO2WB-Brandin-NL: Ahhh, so from a PPA maybe?
[17:41] <drown> I love Ubuntu,I find it very reliable
[17:41] <drown> and stable
[17:41] <VO2WB-Brandin-NL> I don't recall adding a PPA. Is there a way I can find out what PPA's are on my system?
[17:41] <drown> as far as Linux goes,it's given me the least problems of any distro,and in a headless environment those problems aren't even relevant
[17:41] <TJ-> VO2WB-Brandin-NL: which ubuntu release is that? "cat /etc/issue"
[17:42] <VO2WB-Brandin-NL> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS
[17:42] <drown> they mostly were Display manager issues
[17:43] <Humorousone_> mcphail: I'll try runnign that.
[17:45] <Humorousone_> done
[17:46] <Humorousone_> mcphail: If it starts crashing again, I'll just reinstall windows 7 with the bootable usb i made earlier
[17:46] <Humorousone_> reinstall it with the OEM code.
[17:48] <howudodat> need some help figuring out why my wife's computer (ubuntu 15.04 / gnome 3.16) goes into power save / suspend even though she is actively using it and power save is disabled in settings.  I have tried with a plain usb keyboard that has no power / media keys, and it does the same thing.  The computer is a dell xps 27 all-in-one desktop
[17:49] <Humorousone_> mcphail: I've run that command. I've just noticed that the only resolution avaliable in the resolution options is my current one, and it's listed twice
[17:49] <Humorousone_> odd..
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: check syslog for acpi errors
[17:49] <mcphail> Humorousone_: have you rebooted?
[17:49] <Humorousone_> mcphail: I will try that now
[17:50] <Humorousone_> mcphail: I will try that now
[17:50] <Humorousone_> brb
[17:51] <ens> hi folks. i currently have a surface pro 3 with ubuntu installed to an SD card, which
[17:51] <daftykins> ens: which...?
[17:51] <ens> i boot into using the refind bootloader. i'm looking to transplant it onto the main disk
[17:51] <Terminator1560> Hello can u guys help me with an unknown host problem when i try to ping google or sonethibg im using ubuntu 15.10
[17:52] <daftykins> ens: messy. maybe clonezilla can help you
[17:52] <daftykins> Terminator1560: wifi adapter that wasn't supported out of the box, or wired?
[17:52] <Terminator1560> Wifi
[17:52] <daftykins> Terminator1560: do you get an IP from DHCP successfully? run "ip a" in a terminal
[17:53] <Terminator1560> What do i type in
[17:53] <ens> daftykins: oh that looks cool
[17:53] <daftykins> Terminator1560: the bit in the double quotes i typed above.
[17:54] <daftykins> ens: although if you can boot a live session of ubuntu from a flash drive at the same time as have that SD card in, you could just partition and copy the data over of the install
[17:54] <daftykins> then sort a bootloader and clean up
[17:54] <one00handed> is there a reason ubtuntu 14.04 LTS wouldn't be writing a syslog?
[17:54] <ens> daftykins: that would really probably be my first choice, the only problem is things like fstab and whatnot reference the uuids
[17:54] <ens> one00handed: df -h and check for full filesystems?
[17:54] <Terminator1560> To much stuff going on here
[17:55] <daftykins> Terminator1560: in this channel? just be sure to read all highlights and preface every line with the user you're talking to. simples.
[17:55] <ens> daftykins: it looks like that clonezilla tool actually specifically handles that kind of transplanting though
[17:56] <daftykins> ja it's pretty neat
[17:56] <Terminator1560> So i do get responses looking up an ip just not the actual websites
[17:56] <ens> i have a windows partition on the main disk i don't mind nuking so here goes
[17:57] <one00handed> @ens no, everything is running good - just no syslog file. i'm trying to find logs from my cron jobs and can't find anything for cron and the syslog log file isn't there either
[17:57] <Humorousone_> mcphail: I'm back
[17:57] <mcphail> Humorousone_: any better?
[17:57] <Humorousone_> mcphail: It resolved the performance issue... to a certain extent. but now the flashing is back
[17:57] <Humorousone_> mcphail: We're back at where we were this morning ;)
[17:58] <mcphail> Humorousone_: what does "glxinfo | grep direct" tell you now?
[17:58] <Humorousone_> mcphail: it returns yess
[17:58] <daftykins> Terminator1560: so you get IPs from "nslookup google.com" for example?
[17:58] <mcphail> Humorousone_: good. Now, do you know how much VRAM you have?
[17:59] <Terminator1560> But when i go ti windows i can surf fine just when i go to linux i cant get the unknown host when i ping and cant surf the web or install anythibg and yes
[17:59] <Humorousone_> I think it's 512Mb.. but i'm not sure
[17:59] <daftykins> ens: if you have a large enough storage device you could just image up the entire disk too before trying
[17:59] <Humorousone_> Terminator1560: What computer are you using?
[17:59] <Terminator1560> Hp laptop
[17:59] <Humorousone_> Terminator1560: and this is a dual boot?
[18:00] <daftykins> Terminator1560: alright, if you type "ip route" does it correctly state the IP of your router e.g. "default via 192.168.0.1 dev wifi0" or similar?
[18:00] <Terminator1560> Yes
[18:00] <Terminator1560> Yes
[18:00] <daftykins> can you ping the router ok?
[18:00] <daftykins> Terminator1560: and as i said, type the name of the person you're talking to before your replies. you can tab complete them too
[18:01] <Terminator1560> Daftyking would be talking to you
[18:01] <ens> daftykins: true that, i think micro$oft let me redownload the win8.1 image if i just insert serial number to their website from the back of the surface pro though
[18:01] <ens> so no biggy.
[18:01] <mcphail> Humorousone_: try "grep Memory  /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:01] <ens> i just make sure the EFI partition doesn't get nuked and i can always just boot to existing SD card i suppose
[18:02] <Humorousone_> mcphail: trying it now
[18:02] <jdfoote> \exit
[18:02] <motaka2> daftykins: Hello
[18:02] <Humorousone_> mcphail: is this supposed to return anything?
[18:02] <motaka2> daftykins: Do you remeber my problem ?
[18:03] <daftykins> motaka2: oh you again.
[18:03] <Humorousone_> mcphail: Linux newbie here :P
[18:03] <daftykins> ;)
[18:03] <Terminator1560> Daftyking all your questions you asked me are yes i can ping my router just fine
[18:03] <daftykins> motaka2: err, nope kinda gone blank again. what progress have you made?
[18:03] <motaka2> daftykins: If you are busy I wont bother you again
[18:03] <hhu> Hello. Is "Unity 8" from Software Center OK?
[18:04] <mcphail> Humorousone_: try "grep -i memory /var/log/Xorg.0.log" then
[18:04] <Humorousone_> still returns nothing
[18:04] <daftykins> Terminator1560: try this and enter custom DNS such as google (8.8.8.8) or OpenDNS (208.67.220.220) http://askubuntu.com/questions/2321/what-is-the-proper-way-to-change-the-dns-ip
[18:04] <Humorousone_> mcphail: are you trying to view it?
[18:04] <motaka2> daftykins: I burned an ISO on USB memory , but when it comes to the menu, sometimes the keyboard doesnt work and when the keyboard works and I select use ubuntu without installing nothing never happens
[18:05] <daftykins> motaka2: oh yeah that one, you never came back after setting off to try another keyboard, i believe i mentioned at the time that i had no other ideas than for you to poke around your BIOS more.
[18:05] <daftykins> motaka2: ah so it's intermittent, so did you try nomodeset when that situation comes up?
[18:05] <mcphail> Humorousone_: sorry?
[18:06] <Humorousone_> mcphail: Are we trying to view the xorg log with that command?
[18:06] <Humorousone_> sorry if I'm being unclear ;)
[18:06] <motaka2> daftykins: I used another keyboard and the problem presited and also when using USB nonemode set is not available
[18:06] <mcphail> Humorousone_: just trying to see if your xorg log has been kind enough to tell us how much vram you have :)
[18:07] <Humorousone_> oh, alright
[18:07] <daftykins> motaka2: that is not true, the F6 menu should still be there.
[18:07] <motaka2> daftykins: using usb no FX shortcuts available
[18:08] <mcphail> Humorousone_: I'm wondering if your flashing windows are because compiz does not have enough vram (or if the driver is not accelerating compositing). What issues were you having on Windows?
[18:08] <shark> Hello! I can't see any PGP keys I create in seahorse (15.10), any suggestions ?
[18:08] <Humorousone_> very slow animation speed when some drivers were installed
[18:08] <mcphail> Humorousone_: is there an option to increase vram in your BIOS? Could be the same problem...
[18:08] <Humorousone_> mcphail: I believe the basic drivers worked fine, but windows update kept installing the CCC over them
[18:08] <daftykins> motaka2: do you get white text on a black background instead of the previous purple logo boot style?
[18:08] <Humorousone_> mcphail: I don't think so.
[18:09] <Humorousone_> mcphail: windows 7 worked fine though
[18:09] <Humorousone_> mcphail: the issues really started when I upgraded to W10
[18:09] <motaka2> daftykins: I dont remeber let me check again
[18:09] <mcphail> Humorousone_: yes - the basic colour scheme might not need much VRAM, but a desktop with fancy effects would
[18:09] <mcphail> Humorousone_: just a hunch...
[18:10] <Humorousone_> mcphail: would the effects on unity use more VRAM than the windows 10 effects?
[18:10] <mcphail> Humorousone_: yes
[18:11] <Humorousone_> mcphail: hmm...
[18:11] <Humorousone_> mcphail: and btw, I found two lines in the xorg log relating to VRAM
[18:11] <mcphail> Humorousone_: check to see if the windows flash when running openbox. "sudo apt-get install openbox"
[18:11] <Humorousone_> mcphail:  [    31.200] (II) RADEON(G0): mem size init: gart size :1fdde000 vram size: s:20000000 visible:1f9a1000
[18:11] <Humorousone_> mcphail: [    31.165] (II) RADEON(0): mem size init: gart size :1fdee000 vram size: s:14000000 visible:13887000
[18:11] <daftykins> Humorousone_: using the open source driver will naturally be slower with hardware accelerated DE features.
[18:12] <mcphail> daftykins: I think the proprietary drivers failed, and newer drivers failed on Windows as well
[18:13] <daftykins> mcphail: ah right. are we talking APU/onboard/hybrid?
[18:13] <mcphail> daftykins: onboard
[18:13] <daftykins> so chipset based huh?
[18:14] <Terminator1560> Daftykings stilk unknown host problems
[18:14] <mcphail> daftykins: sounds like it. My old socket939 board would play up unless I cranked up the vram
[18:14] <daftykins> Terminator1560: did you set it then reboot or?
[18:14] <daftykins> Terminator1560: i take it this is firefox and you haven't tried to set up any proxy config with it?
[18:15] <daftykins> Humorousone_: what's the lspci entry for this adapter?
[18:15] <mcphail> Humorousone_: try openbox, to test things. I don't think an openbox session uses any compositing at all
[18:15] <Terminator1560> Reboot the the pc u mean and no i dont use proxy daftykings
[18:15]  * daftykins dons a crown
[18:15] <daftykins> Terminator1560: that would be what a reboot is, yes
[18:16] <Terminator1560> I didnt know if u ment the actuall router or not
[18:16] <daftykins> i'd have said so
[18:17] <Terminator1560> Daftykings is all i need to put in is 8.8.8.8
[18:17] <Humorousone_> daftykins: I'm not sure.. could I find that in the syslog or the xorg log?
[18:17] <daftykins> Terminator1560: yes and that's not my nick ;)
[18:18] <daftykins> Humorousone_: type "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lspci | pastebinit" then share the link here
[18:18] <mcphail> Humorousone_: actually, looks as if you have plenty of vram...
[18:18] <Terminator1560> What if this dont fix it
[18:18] <daftykins> Terminator1560: then we'll cross that bridge when we come to it
[18:19] <Terminator1560> Alright
[18:19] <motaka2> daftykins: This time it locks on all menu page
[18:19] <Humorousone_> mcphail: does unity start upon loading the login screen
[18:19] <daftykins> fault finding is a process of elimination, i won't sit here and give you 50 things to try back to back :)
[18:19] <Humorousone_> mcphail: Because it flashes there too
[18:19] <daftykins> motaka2: i just asked you to mention what it looks like :)
[18:20] <motaka2> lemme take a pic
[18:20] <daftykins> motaka2: nah just compare it to...
[18:20] <Terminator1560> Now it doesnt wanna connect at all daftyking
[18:20] <daftykins> https://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/wikiDE/images/thumb/7/7f/Ubuntu-12.04-UEFI-Boot-02-Rescue-a-broken-system.png/300px-Ubuntu-12.04-UEFI-Boot-02-Rescue-a-broken-system.png
[18:22] <daftykins> Terminator1560: type "lspci" and tell me what your wifi card is
[18:22] <Humorousone_> mcphail: i think i'll have to roll with this flashing issue for a while
[18:22] <motaka2> daftykins: mine is not like this but I have burned 14.04
[18:22] <Terminator1560> Nvm but still doesnt work
[18:23] <daftykins> motaka2: do you have the 'test memory' entry?
[18:23] <Humorousone_> mcphail: I'll stick with ubuntu for a few more weeks. If by then I haven't resolved it, I'll switch to w7/w10
[18:23] <motaka2> daftykins: Yes I do but the keyboard doesnt navigate to it
[18:24] <motaka2> daftykins: If i  use the test memory of the DVD it works
[18:24] <daftykins> motaka2: didn't you say you were going to take this system to a shop last?
[18:24] <Canon> looking for an answer to this question: would like to scp files to new location then mv original file to new folder - using - scp file* user@ip:/home/user/Documents/foldername/
[18:24] <daftykins> motaka2: ok, did we do a memtest already? i forget.
[18:24] <Terminator1560> Can any one help
[18:25] <Canon> Terminator1560: catch me up
[18:25] <daftykins> Terminator1560: i asked you for information, can you provide it?
[18:25] <Terminator1560> What do u need
[18:25] <daftykins> Terminator1560: i need what i asked for, the name of your wireless card from "lspci" in the terminal
[18:25] <howudodat> lotuspsychje: ok, this took a while.  still not sure the cause.  syslog rotated on awake from suspend, but all ACPI messages are posted here: http://pastebin.com/gWqxE14v
[18:25] <motaka2> daftykins: Yes, but i didnt and I thought they would say to test the hard drive they have to format it. I think I ran mem test once but I dont remeber if I let that finished or no
[18:25] <BluesKaj> Humorousone_, threatening to go back to windows if some problem doesn't get resolved by your schedule won't speed up the fix ...so good luck on windows  ;-)
[18:25] <daftykins> Canon: 15.10 install, likely bad wifi driver, receives IP info and resolves domain names via nslookup apparently, but cannot browse online
[18:26] <Humorousone_> BluesKaj: sorry if it sounded like a threat
[18:26] <daftykins> motaka2: but that's rubbish, nowhere would format a drive to test it.
[18:26] <Canon> ya, thats what it sounds like
[18:26] <motaka2> daftykins: Then I will take it on Saturday
[18:27] <Humorousone_> BluesKaj: I appreciate the help, it's just I have to switch to something else if I can't get it to work properly.. I have to start using android studio soon for my A levels
[18:27] <Humorousone_> I didn't intend for anything to sound like a threat, sorry
[18:27] <Terminator1560> RTL8188EE WIRELESS NETWORK ADPTER
[18:27] <BluesKaj> Humorousone_, I just joined . perhaps you could repeat your issue
[18:27] <Terminator1560> DAFTYKING
[18:27] <swenzel> anyone using ubuntu 15.10 also having problems with installing python packages for specific versions with "pip3.x" ?
[18:27] <daftykins> Terminator1560 + Canon - bleh - realtek adapter.
[18:28] <daftykins> Terminator1560: i'm not a King!
[18:28] <mcphail> Humorousone_: I don't think the login screen uses compositing, so that _is_ odd
[18:29] <Terminator1560> My bad daftykin an no
[18:29] <Humorousone_> BluesKaj: I've been having what are probably driver issues with my laptop. By default, my screen flashes every few seconds, and in the log indicates something to do with graphics settings?
[18:29]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[18:29] <BluesKaj> Humorousone_, ok which gpu?
[18:29] <daftykins> motaka2: tell you what, disconnect your hard disk and see if you can boot the live media any better without it in.
[18:29] <Humorousone_> I made a thread on askubuntu with details, I'll get that for you
[18:30] <motaka2> daftykins: would that work without hard?
[18:30] <Humorousone_> BluesKaj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/690658/screen-flashes-white-every-few-seconds-15-10-hp-dv6
[18:30] <daftykins> Humorousone_: er did you find your graphics hardware from 'lspci' yet?
[18:30] <daftykins> ah that's your post huh?
[18:31] <daftykins> oh it's one of those laptops with two, oh dear.
[18:31] <Humorousone_> daftykins: yeah. I didn't actually realise before
[18:31] <Terminator1560> Did you get that daftykins
[18:31] <Humorousone_> daftykins: this laptop is second hand :P
[18:31] <daftykins> Humorousone_: that'll definitely be raining on your parade
[18:32] <Humorousone_> daftykins: *hurricane
[18:32] <daftykins> :D
[18:32] <Humorousone_> ;)
[18:32] <daftykins> true, that
[18:32] <binary01> hi all, im and trying to connect my motorola buds bluetooth headset to my ubuntu laptop and it was working for a few minutes but not anymore. Does anyone know if this is a bug?
[18:33] <Canon> how can i scp a file then move it after copy to a new location
[18:33] <daftykins> Canon: scp file user@host:/path/where/i/want/it/.
[18:34] <motaka2> daftykins: DISK BOOT FAILURE INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER
[18:34] <Guest56151> is it possible to run windows on a seperate account while having ubuntu on the admin account?
[18:35] <Canon> im using scp file to usr@ip:home/user/Doc   then i want to move the coppied file to a different location
[18:35] <daftykins> motaka2: well yeah, there's no disk - so you need to press a key for a boot menu now and select your media to boot.
[18:35] <daftykins> Guest56151: no you can't run two OSs at once on the same hardware, your only choice is something like virtualbox.
[18:35] <motaka2> daftykins: Boot from CD  :
[18:35] <daftykins> but we know the CD was kinda bad
[18:36] <BluesKaj> Humorousone_, if your screen is showing the same behaviour on windows and ubuntu I suspect you have a hardware problem with you gpu, unless W7 runs ok
[18:36] <daftykins> motaka2: i feel like when i help you, you unlearn everything from the previous time?
[18:36] <Humorousone_> BluesKaj: it wasn't the same behaviour per se. It was just poor performance on particular drivers on windows 10
[18:36] <daftykins> Canon: you need to specify the target path as i say, with a trailing period: .
[18:36] <ens> daftykins: thanks for the tip. just went through the clonezilla gui and about to copy now. this tool is sweet.
[18:36] <daftykins> ens: :D
[18:37] <Humorousone_> daftykins: Thing is, it seemed to work without a hitch on windows 7 as far as I could see, that's why I said I'd go back
[18:37] <Terminator1560> Daftykins did u get my info or is any one else able to help me please
[18:38] <daftykins> Terminator1560: yes i've just been juggling 3+ people so it took a moment, 15.10 you said you put on?
[18:38] <Canon> butt after the file is coppied i want it to be moved to a new location
[18:38] <daftykins> Humorousone_: yeah Windows handles those funky graphics setups better
[18:38] <Terminator1560> Yes
[18:38] <daftykins> Canon: why don't you just put it in the correct place the first time with the command?
[18:39] <daftykins> Canon: anyway, if you MUST do it in two steps, you have to SSH in and move it.
[18:39] <Humorousone_> daftykins: BRB, ordering a windows 95 install CD
[18:39] <Humorousone_> or floppy
[18:39] <daftykins> i have 95 OSR2 here for you o/ got the Weezer music video and everything
[18:40] <motaka2> daftykins: I disconnected the hard and I I put the DVD in cd rom and from the menu I selected try without installing and it eneded to a balnk black page
[18:40] <daftykins> motaka2: yeah now try nomodeset again *and* the flash drive
[18:41] <Humorousone_> daftykins: The thing is.. It happens on and off.. If I sleep my PC, and wake it up again, the settings loops appears to stop
[18:41] <Humorousone_> it happens later on sometimes, but it stops
[18:41] <motaka2> daftykins: ok
[18:42] <daftykins> Terminator1560: when you installed, was it from USB flash drive? was wifi perfect there?
[18:42] <Terminator1560> This stuff is so confusing sometimes lol
[18:42] <daftykins> Humorousone_: yeah, not really a reliable sounding situation though.
[18:42] <Humorousone_> daftykins: agreed. >.>
[18:42] <daftykins> confusing? only if you don't remember your nickname!
[18:42] <catphish> i just upgraded a host with software RAID + LVM from 12.04 to 14.04, the result is that grub can't find its modules at boot and drops me to a rescue prompt, is there an obvious reason for this, and something i can do to prevent it?
[18:45] <khax> uh oh..
[18:45] <daftykins> khax: what's up?
[18:45] <Terminator1560> Does unbuntu have a firewall that might bs
[18:45] <motaka2> daftykins: no nothing
[18:45] <Terminator1560> Be stoping it
[18:45] <daftykins> motaka2: with what?
[18:45] <daftykins> Terminator1560: no
[18:45] <Terminator1560> Ok
[18:45] <daftykins> Terminator1560: it's your wireless adapter being rubbish in Linux
[18:46] <daftykins> Terminator1560: but i did ask you if it worked when you booted ubuntu from a flash drive or DVD the first time?
[18:46] <Terminator1560> Yeah it is windows it works likd a charm
[18:46] <daftykins> no i'm not asking about Windows
[18:46] <Terminator1560> No it did not work
[18:46] <daftykins> i'm asking about Ubuntu...
[18:46] <daftykins> ok.
[18:46] <daftykins> maybe go try 14.04
[18:46] <Terminator1560> Ive tried 14.94
[18:47] <Terminator1560> 14 p
[18:47] <Terminator1560> 14.04
[18:47] <Terminator1560> Ive tried that
[18:47] <daftykins> Terminator1560: what make and model system is this?
[18:48] <Terminator1560> And doea the same thing on every other distro and what command do i use to find out if i can
[18:48] <daftykins> find out what?
[18:48] <Terminator1560> Make of the comouter
[18:48] <Humorousone_> daftykins: do you think install switcheroo for switchable graphics might help?
[18:48] <daftykins> Terminator1560: is it not written on it...
[18:49] <daftykins> Humorousone_: i honestly have no clue when it comes to the hybrid AMD ones, i think there's an ubuntu hybrid graphics help page though
[18:50] <ubuntu686> hey guys
[18:50] <daftykins> hi
[18:50] <Terminator1560> Model 15-r264dx Rev:2336-120 daftykins
[18:50] <Humorousone_> daftykins: I'll have a go with switcheroo.
[18:50] <motaka2> daftykins: after I disconnected hard the delete button doesnt take me to bios to set the boot from USB. using DVD and selecting nonemoset ends to a blinking page. the dvd works fine . I have tested it on another pc
[18:51] <ubuntu686> i have a short question regarding the installation of ubuntu 15.10
[18:51] <ubuntu686> i have just received my new MSI GE62 and installed windows 10. the bios mode was legacy (i noticed that later). is this any problem with dual booting ubuntu?#
[18:51] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | ubuntu686
[18:52] <daftykins> ubottu: it won't be, win10 will have been EFI installed.
[18:52] <daftykins> ugh tab complete fail
[18:52] <daftykins> ubuntu686: it won't be, win10 will have been EFI installed.
[18:52] <ubuntu686> daftykins when i change the bios to UEFI or UEFI with CSM somehow when i reboot it just opens the bios again
[18:53] <ubuntu686> so i thought it was installed in the legacy mode
[18:53] <daftykins> ubuntu686: nah
[18:53] <daftykins> you'll want to check Windows.
[18:53] <daftykins> Terminator1560: so looks like an HP Pavilion 15"
[18:54] <Terminator1560> Yes correct
[18:54] <daftykins> Terminator1560: did you run the installer from inside Windows to install ubuntu?
[18:54] <daftykins> or did you boot a flash drive / DVD ?
[18:54] <Terminator1560> I booted from the live cd to install it
[18:54] <Terminator1560> Or usb
[18:55] <ubuntu686> daftykins: i checked the disk management and there is under C: no (EFI mode)
[18:55] <ubuntu686> as described in here http://www.eightforums.com/tutorials/29504-bios-mode-see-if-windows-boot-uefi-legacy-mode.html
[18:55] <Humorousone_> Thank you for your help today mcphail , daftykins , lotuspsychje . I'm giving it a rest for the evening. I'll do some work for now, and try out switcheroo later. see if that somehow makes a difference ;)
[18:55] <Terminator1560> So yeah its running along sidd of windiws 10
[18:55] <Humorousone_> nighty night
[18:55] <ubuntu686> its same like in "Legacy mode" in the link :/
[18:56] <mcphail> Humorousone_: sorry I couldn't help, but stick with it :)
[18:56] <daftykins> ubuntu686: how strange, sounds like this machine was second hand maybe?
[18:56] <Humorousone_> will do
[18:57] <ubuntu686> daftykins: actually it was new, why do you think that?
[18:57] <Terminator1560> Just did a usb install daftykins
[18:57] <daftykins> ubuntu686: 10 comes EFI installed typically. i find that very untrustworthy. anyway, so what's the issue? dualboot not working?
[18:57] <ubuntu686> ahh i see
[18:58] <ubuntu686> there was free dos before
[18:58] <ubuntu686> i think the bios was at legacy mode before but i didnt check it before installing windows 10
[18:58] <ubuntu686> i basically just want to dual boot windows 10 with ubuntu 15.10. would you say that i should reinstall windows 10 in the UEFI mode?
[18:59] <daftykins> ah so it didn't come with 10.
[18:59] <daftykins> see your story has changed now :)
[18:59] <ubuntu686> yes sorry :)
[18:59] <daftykins> depends, have you done much to windows 10 that it'd be a pain to start over?
[19:00] <ubuntu686> the laptop is pretty new with nvidia gtx 970m and intel 7i 6th gen
[19:00] <daftykins> ah nice, skylake
[19:00] <ubuntu686> not yet fortunately thats why im asking for support. i could easily reinstall it now
[19:00] <ubuntu686> yes :)
[19:00] <teknomega> hi all
[19:00] <daftykins> yeah if it were me then, i would wipe the entire disk and start again
[19:00] <teknomega> how do i fully reinstall a package so that it asks me again how i want to set it up
[19:00] <daftykins> ubuntu686: do you have both win10 64-bit and ubuntu on separate boot media?
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> teknomega: welcome, what can we do for you?
[19:01] <teknomega> i have installed postfix but used a the wrong option when i apt-get install postfix..
[19:01] <ubuntu686> would you install then UEFI or UEFI with CSM?
[19:01] <nishanth> i am having a problem , my right click doesn't provide me with any option to create new folder on desktop... and neither can i see any folders on my desktop
[19:01] <nishanth> anyone else having this problem?
[19:01] <daftykins> ubuntu686: well CSM is legacy mode, it stands for 'compatibility support module' i think, so i would go pure EFI with secure boot on - but i'd also boot ubuntu to zero the first 10MB of your hard disk / SSD before reinstalling 10 so it is in the best position
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> nishanth: you can make new folders in nautilus
[19:02] <nishanth> lotuspsychje,  i know .. but why can't i do this in desktop
[19:03] <Terminator1560> I just might wipe ubuntu and just run windows
[19:03] <ubuntu686> daftykins: okay i see. sorry for my bad knowledge, but i thought that secure boot doesnt work with ubuntu and it would be "easier" to install windows 10 first and then ubuntu because of the boot loader
[19:03] <daftykins> ubuntu686: well you'd put it on for the 10 install initially.
[19:03] <daftykins> ubuntu686: anywho what are you typing from now? ubuntu live on the target system?
[19:04] <daftykins> Terminator1560: sounds like a plan
[19:04] <teknomega> i figured it out.. dpkg-reconfigure
[19:04] <Terminator1560> I like linux tho
[19:04] <daftykins> teknomega: yeah pretty common one that.
[19:04] <ubuntu686> daftykins: im typing from windows 10 now.
[19:04] <daftykins> Terminator1560: yeah, it doesn't like your wifi though. get a wired network cable maybe and you'll be fine.
[19:04] <teknomega> daftykins, i was used to centos / RH
[19:04] <daftykins> ubuntu686: ok, so i'd boot the ubuntu live session first off
[19:05] <ubuntu686> to be honest i tried to boot ubuntu from my usb stick but somehow the first screen with the "loading points" didnt go over
[19:05] <Terminator1560> If i get a wifi adapter do u think that might work then
[19:05] <nishanth> anyone having a problem where they can't make any folders on desktop// and can't see any folders there either??
[19:05] <ubuntu686> maybe i made a mistake with putting ubuntu on the usb stick? i tried linux live creator as well as win32disk
[19:06] <daftykins> Terminator1560: probably, i think more work is needed with testing the current one first before giving up and spending money... go test plugged into your router too, to confirm it is the wireless
[19:06] <daftykins> ubuntu686: you'll likely need to boot with 'nomodeset'
[19:06] <daftykins> !nomodeset | ubuntu686
[19:07] <Terminator1560> Ive tried already it works fine with it plugged in
[19:07] <ubuntu686> oh that sounds interesting. just need to find out how to use this nomodeset, just a sec :)
[19:07] <daftykins> ok so it's definitely the realtek sucking
[19:08] <daftykins> Terminator1560: reinstall 14.04 then there's one idea to try.
[19:08] <daftykins> ubuntu686: yeah you spotted the link?
[19:08] <binary01> hi all, im and trying to connect my motorola buds bluetooth headset to my ubuntu laptop and it was working for a few minutes but not anymore. Does anyone know if this is a known bug?
[19:08] <Terminator1560> Okay is there one lower then that i can try that has lts
[19:09] <lotuspsychje> !bluetooth | binary01
[19:09] <ubuntu686> ahhh yes
[19:09] <daftykins> Terminator1560: 14.04 is LTS, no other choices.
[19:09] <RNeville> I have bluetooth headset intermittent problems, as-well.
[19:09] <binary01> thanks
[19:09] <binary01> ill check it out
[19:09] <Terminator1560> Ok i dont think it will work but ill try
[19:09] <binary01> i think this is a bug maybe
[19:10] <ubuntu846> okay guys i i will reboot my windows 10 then (it's another username now since i use another laptop)
[19:10] <ubuntu846> or i mean try to boot ubuntu stick
[19:11] <daftykins> ubuntu846: sounds good
[19:11] <Terminator1560> What is the best linux distro you remond to use other then ubuntu
[19:12] <akxwi-dave> xubuntu
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> lol
[19:12] <lotuspsychje> Terminator1560: your in an ubuntu support chat so..
[19:12] <Terminator1560> Ok lol
[19:12] <Neko-chan> gentoo
[19:14] <binary01> so my bluetooth headset connects and i can hear audio for a few seconds and then it cuts out. Does anyone know why this happens?
[19:14] <ens> binary01: have you went to the bluetooth icon and checked the sound settings to see if the device is selected as the output after?
[19:14] <binary01> yes
[19:14] <binary01> it is selected
[19:15] <binary01> and i go to sound setting and select the headset there as well
[19:15] <ubuntu846>  daftykins: okay so far so good. i have set this mode and chose try ubuntu without reinstalling. now then first there were many errors on the screens. it was too fast, i couldnt read. but anyways then the ubuntu started and now i'm in the live version
[19:15] <ens> binary01: and you can select the 'test sound' button, does it do anything?
[19:16] <binary01> no it doesnt
[19:16] <daftykins> ubuntu846: ok open the terminal program from the dash icon in the top left by starting to type 'terminal'
[19:17] <daftykins> ubuntu846: now if you're 100% sure you don't need any data that's on this system right now, in there, run "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=2M count=5" it'll say it wrote 10MB
[19:17] <binary01> after the audio cuts out the headset disappears from the sound settings
[19:17] <ubuntu846> daftykins: alright. could you explain me what this does? and there is one partition which MSI made for the drivers. will it be gone?
[19:18] <daftykins> ubuntu846: erases the partition table on the disk.
[19:18] <daftykins> ubuntu846: oh yeah that'll get murdered if you run the above, what drivers though? i'd say just download them from their website after.
[19:19] <ubuntu846> daftykins: okay i see, well there's a cd which should have the same drivers i guess
[19:19] <ubuntu846> could you explain me how the process will go on?
[19:21] <daftykins> ubuntu846: when it comes to Windows you always ignore all drivers on CDs too and just download them from the website as they'll always be newer.
[19:22] <daftykins> ubuntu846: so once you run that command, shutdown, go into the BIOS and change everything back to set it for windows 10 - so secure boot on, EFI boot only (you might even be able to just select to load the EFI/BIOS defaults
[19:22] <OerHeks> or you would use the windows own driver tool too, no ?
[19:22] <ens> binary01: unpair the headset then try run: sudo pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover
[19:22] <daftykins> OerHeks: keeps making bad choices with 10 of late :)
[19:23] <ubuntu846> daftykins: alright i see. and then i would install windows 10 new on the uefi mode?
[19:23]  * lotuspsychje uses windows only to look through the wall
[19:24] <KFKG_> Hey everyone, day 3 of this madness, I am trying to install and run a GUI on Ubuntu server 14, I want to be able to remotely login and view the desktop like we can in windows RDP, can someone help me? I have installed KDE and X11vnc and i can login via X11vnc but the screen just shows a few icons and the desktop is completely frozen
[19:24] <daftykins> ubuntu846: yep
[19:24] <KFKG_> I was told by #ubuntu_server to come here for help
[19:25] <ubuntu846> daftykins: okay good. so i will do that until then. maybe you could explain me, what this actually means with the 10mb writing?
[19:25] <ens> KFKG_: sorry if this is a silly question but instead of running a fully fledged remote desktop / vnc style connection perhaps it is possible to just run the application directly and use X-forwarding via the ssh -X switch?
[19:25] <daftykins> ubuntu846: your hard disk has boot and partition information at the very start, writing 10MB makes it forget as if the disk had never had any data on it - which is ideal for a clean install.
[19:26] <KFKG_> ens: Not silly at all, but we need the full GUI to run a radio automation program
[19:27] <ubuntu846> daftykins: oh yeah this makes sense. so i will do the command, reset the bios to uefi and secure boot, install windows 10 and then install ubuntu for dual boot?
[19:27] <binary01> ens: should bluetooth be on?
[19:27] <lotuspsychje> KFKG_: vnc is not the smartest idea to run 24/7
[19:27] <soikot> hi
[19:28] <ens> binary01: yeah. that command should give no errors when you run it too
[19:28] <daftykins> ubuntu846: yep, although you'll have some steps to take before you try ubuntu, as ideally you'll make space for ubuntu by resizing Windows from Windows - unless you make a partition for C: smaller than the entire drive during 10 setup
[19:28] <ens> binary01: also one thing that might be nice to check is the 'dmesg' log for disconnects, it might give a more detailed reason
[19:28] <KFKG_> lotuspsychje: we do not plan on being logged in 24-7, just being able to cehck in on it from time to time and do tasks on the desktop
[19:28] <lotuspsychje> KFKG_: for single use i would try teamviewer
[19:29] <KFKG_> We cannot get that running
[19:29] <KFKG_> so far all we have is the command line
[19:29] <lotuspsychje> KFKG_: you said you installed kde?
[19:29] <ubuntu846> daftykins: alright i see. i thought like this about the partitioning, i dont know if its "good style".
[19:29] <bekks> KFKG_: Install a desktop environment, install nxclient/nxserver :)
[19:29] <KFKG_> yes Lotus however it is not working properly
[19:29] <ubuntu846> windows OS + windows software 300GB
[19:30] <ubuntu846> ubuntu root (/) 150GB
[19:30] <ubuntu846> ubuntu /home 150GB
[19:30] <ubuntu846> swap 4GB
[19:30] <ubuntu846> all my data stuff shared between windows and ubuntu (NFTS) 400GB
[19:30] <lotuspsychje> KFKG_: or a small wm like blackbox
[19:30] <daftykins> ubuntu846: 50GB would be plenty for ubuntu's / - if you want to use sleep or hibernate you'll have to set swap to same as your RAM size
[19:31] <binary01> im getting an error Module initialization failed
[19:31] <daftykins> KFKG_: is this for a workplace?
[19:31] <ubuntu846> daftykins: okay so 50GB for the root and then 16GB for swap. then its correct?
[19:31] <binary01> dmesg says Intel bluetooth firmware patch completed and activated
[19:31] <KFKG_> hey Daftykins: Lon time no talk, it is a server that will run email/ftp/websites/ audio streaming
[19:31] <lotuspsychje> KFKG_: openssh can get alot of work done too on remote
[19:32] <daftykins> KFKG_: then it shouldn't have a GUI :)
[19:32] <howudodat> lotuspsychje: just curious if you saw anything unusual in the ACPI messages in my syslog.  I see a few errors but a bit of research shows they are probable benign
[19:32] <KFKG_> daftykins: It needs to have a GUI
[19:32] <daftykins> sounds like a mistake waiting to happen
[19:32] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: can you pastebin plz?
[19:32] <daftykins> KFKG_: each of the above roles should be virtualised in separate hosts.
[19:32] <daftykins> nice modular approach compared with all eggs in one basket
[19:33] <howudodat> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/gWqxE14v
[19:34] <KFKG_> daftykins: you want us to run multiple servers for something that one box can handle?
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: probable further in syslog acpi firmware bug also
[19:34] <daftykins> KFKG_: multiple *virtual
[19:34] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: did you try on LTS?
[19:34] <ubuntu846> daftykins: i made the sudo command now and it said: 5+0 records in. 5+0 records out. 10MB copied, 3.8mb/s
[19:34] <KFKG_> daftykins: i cannot even get ONE box to work lol
[19:34] <NetworkingPro> im doing a new install on a laptop should I use LVM or no?
[19:34] <daftykins> KFKG_: does this thing even have a RAID disk setup?
[19:34] <NetworkingPro> Whats the difference?
[19:34] <howudodat> lotuspsychje: I am on 15.04,, isn't that LTS?
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: no sir
[19:35] <KFKG_> daftykins: it has raid 1 but i am trying to break the mirror
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: 14.04.3
[19:35] <daftykins> NetworkingPro: easier partition movement, resizing etc. for those who are willing to learn the LVM command set.
[19:35] <daftykins> KFKG_: why?
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> !lts | howudodat
[19:35] <KFKG_> daftykins: we want all the space usable
[19:35] <daftykins> KFKG_: and this is to be a system for a workplace? with client hosted sites?
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: try it out, just to test if your issues dissapear
[19:36] <howudodat> oops, I thought all .04 versions were LTS and .10 versions werent :(
[19:36] <NetworkingPro> daftykins: nice, but I can just use LVM whole disk I presume and have no real need to learn it if I dont want to resize, etc right now?
[19:36] <daftykins> howudodat: nope :)
[19:36] <NetworkingPro> I want to later, but no time now.
[19:36] <NetworkingPro> :)
[19:36] <KFKG_> daftykins: the system supports our internal sites (that are viewable by the web)
[19:36] <daftykins> NetworkingPro: personally i would avoid using it entirely if you have no need.
[19:36] <howudodat> hmm...ok that will take some work to re setup the whole environment
[19:36] <ubuntu846> daftykins: should i also enable fast boot?
[19:36] <daftykins> KFKG_: then i'm afraid i'd have to say that every decision you have made is a mistake imo.
[19:37] <NetworkingPro> daftykins: I see that it says no lvm, lvm, or lvm encrypted
[19:37] <daftykins> ubuntu846: that one you can keep off
[19:37] <NetworkingPro> Do I have to do LVM to do encryption?
[19:37] <ubuntu846> alright
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: lts will be more stable
[19:37] <ubuntu846> daftykins: i will create the windows 10 usb stick then now
[19:37] <howudodat> before I do one more question:  is there a wiki / tuturial / best practices for setting up multi user desktop environment?  both my wife and daughter use this and using GDM with user switching and no-gdm with each user logging into a tty and then running startx have both been unstable
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: or you can stay 9months and file some bugs, up to you
[19:38] <KFKG_> daftykins: we moved over to linux to have an easier time with it, so far it has not proved to be that way and only a waste of money
[19:38] <daftykins> NetworkingPro: not sure, i see far too many people come in with broken encrypted setups so i'd not go with it personally ;)
[19:38] <daftykins> KFKG_: this will happen when you have nobody qualified with it
[19:39] <BluesKaj> KFKG_, waste of money?
[19:39] <NetworkingPro> daftykins: maybe ill just use truecrypt (whatever the new one is) and let it encrypt pre bot.
[19:39] <NetworkingPro> *boot
[19:39] <daftykins> KFKG_: the fact you want to remove what data protection you have on that system suggests mistakes are being made
[19:39] <daftykins> NetworkingPro: *shrug* i have no idea of the options :)
[19:40] <ArchNoob> hello..
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> ArchNoob: what can we do for you?
[19:40] <nis> i can't see any folders on desktop......neither can i create any new folders on desktop...anyone know how to solve this?
[19:41] <NetworkingPro> daftykins: Thats cool. I appreciate the insight.   I do need encryption, but I can do that instead.
[19:41] <NetworkingPro> Thx man
[19:41] <howudodat> lotuspsychje:  I would file bugs, but the SSO system wont verify any of my emails.  I tried two different ones.
[19:41] <daftykins> NetworkingPro: no problem, enjoy!
[19:42] <ArchNoob> lotuspsychje: Was just greeting :)
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> ArchNoob: np :p
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: tryout LTS :p
[19:43] <ubuntu846> daftykins: stupid question, but before i used win32disk tool and now my usb stick says it has only 2mb free space even after formatting
[19:43] <howudodat> lotuspsychje:  I will, but that will take me a bit to get everything set up.  is there a good wiki on multi-user desktop setup?
[19:43] <daftykins> ubuntu846: not familiar with that, i'd run an administrator cmd and use 'diskpart'
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: you mean installing same ubuntu fast on different boxes?
[19:45] <howudodat> lotuspsychje: no.  both my wife and daughter use this machine.  I set it up with GDM and user switching - terribly buggy.  Then I set it up with target multiuser and used startx to promote text console to graphic desktops
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: you should not use startx anymore
[19:46] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: dont you like unity users switching?
[19:47] <howudodat> lotuspsychje: GMD / user switch was terribly buggy.  one out of every 2-5 switches it would stall at a blank screen.  it also couldn't handle empty passwords...at least I couldn't get it configured to.
[19:47] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: LTS :p
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> howudodat: you can backup your fav packages with aptoncd if you like
[19:48] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | howudodat
[19:48] <ubuntu846> daftykins: hmm strange thing also there is shows its just 2mb. i am trying to install windows 10v now on the usb, i will keep you on progress
[19:48] <daftykins> ubuntu846: "list disks" shows 2MB huh?
[19:49] <daftykins> with diskpart.
[19:49] <Term1nal> Hello folks. I have a very strange issues with an Ubuntu 14.04 server. When I ping an invalid address, it resolves to a particular address (a public WAN address belonging to me, however, at a different location geographically from the machine, and not an address associated with the machine itself).
[19:49] <nobawk> hello, I do the upgrade from ubuntu 15.04 to 15.10 gnome version
[19:49] <ubuntu846> daftykins: oh sorry there is 14 GB. i made list volume
[19:49] <nobawk> but it does not finish yet
[19:49] <howudodat> lotuspsychje:  I'll try LTS this weekend.
[19:49] <Term1nal> valid addresses work as expected, but I can feed arbitrary alphanumeric characters to the host target of a ping command, and it will always work, but will be pinging that one particular address.
[19:49] <lotuspsychje> Term1nal: maybe the ##networking guys can sort that out?
[19:50] <nobawk> now I can't log in, what can I do?
[19:50] <daftykins> ubuntu846: ah, so see the number left of that flash drive and enter "select disk #" then "clean" then "create partition primary"
[19:50] <quantic> Term1nal: I've seen the same behavior. Do you have a search domain in /etc/resolv.conf?
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> !recovery | nobawk
[19:50] <nobawk> gnome 3 seems remove the command to kill the lock screen function
[19:50] <nobawk> would you please help
[19:50] <quantic> Term1nal: alternatively, are you pulling via DHCP?
[19:50] <Haris> hello all
[19:50] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: the upgrade it not finish
[19:50] <lotuspsychje> Haris: welcome
[19:50] <vagrant1> Haris: hello
[19:51] <lotuspsychje> nobawk: you stopped in middle of upgrade?
[19:51] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: I need to see if it is done, but I can't log in. It shows authentication error, type message, 'sssssb' is not match bla bla bla
[19:51] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: it still running
[19:51] <Term1nal> quantic: the only thing in resolv.conf is google DNS servers
[19:51] <Haris> doesn't trusty come with apache2 configured with a default vhost out-of-the-box ? my apache install is serving any domain that someone asks for with --> line #1: GET / HTTP/1.1 and then line #2: Host: anydomain.thatonecanthinkof.com
[19:51] <ubuntu846> daftykins: alright it's currently trying to install on the usb stick if it will not work and interrupt i will try out your solution :)
[19:52] <nobawk> new systemd seems worst than the old init system
[19:52] <ubuntu846> its at 60% now
[19:52] <daftykins> Haris: yes it serves from /var/www/html/
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> nobawk: wait...you say the update is running but you cant login?.
[19:52] <Term1nal> quantic: also, set statically.
[19:52] <Haris> why is it not doing on my box ?
[19:52] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: that's it
[19:52] <daftykins> Haris: was it an upgrade or a clean install of 14.04 server?
[19:52] <lotuspsychje> nobawk: did you screen goto hibernate?
[19:52] <Haris> hmm.. how can I check that ?
[19:52] <daftykins> Haris: ask the person who installed it?
[19:53] <Haris> that person left, before I joined here. that's a no can do
[19:53] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: gnome locks my screen when I do my washing
[19:53] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: and now I can't log in
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> nobawk: your forget your password?
[19:53] <nobawk> it shows weird messages
[19:53] <lotuspsychje> nobawk: like what
[19:53] <daftykins> Haris: so we have no idea what state this host is in, you'll have to check the defined sites in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ .
[19:53] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: I am not that stupid
[19:54] <Haris> default vhost is configured, and symlinked under sites-enabled
[19:54] <nobawk> authentication errror
[19:54] <Haris> looks like its out of the box
[19:54] <daftykins> Haris: yes but the config contained within...
[19:54] <Haris> but its not in apachectl -S output
[19:54] <Haris> config seems untouched
[19:54] <nobawk> type of message, 'sssssb' does not match ex..........
[19:54] <lotuspsychje> nobawk: auth error might be wrong pass
[19:54] <nobawk> legionCyber: repeatedly
[19:54] <daftykins> Haris: might as well reinstall from scratch if nothing is on this machine.
[19:55] <daftykins> (to be sure)
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> nobawk: caps lock on?
[19:55] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: I told you, I'm not n00b
[19:55] <Haris> checking
[19:55] <nobawk> I can log in the terminal
[19:55] <lotuspsychje> nobawk: let the upgrade finish, then reboot
[19:55] <nobawk> and I can kill it if it is a seperate process
[19:55] <ubuntu846> daftykins: just a hypothetical question, is it possible to migrate ubuntu from an HDD to an SSD?
[19:55] <nobawk> but fuck, it totally different from the good old days
[19:55] <nobawk> fuck them
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> !language | nobawk
[19:56] <daftykins> ubuntu846: yes disks can be cloned.
[19:56] <Haris> can I see a copy of the apache2 pkg files ononline for trusty. I have apache2-2.4.7-1ubuntu4.4-amd64 installed on this one
[19:56] <daftykins> !info apache2 trusty
[19:56] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: the problem is that I don't know if it is finish
[19:56] <daftykins> Haris: so not quite up to date.
[19:56] <ubuntu846> daftykins: okay awesome :)
[19:56] <lotuspsychje> nobawk: hard drive still working?
[19:56] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 sometimes it requires you to enter something
[19:56] <nobawk> now I can't
[19:56] <Haris> apt-get update; apt-get update apache* ?
[19:57] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: why it not working?
[19:57] <nobawk> I still can use the termail
[19:57] <nobawk> but I can't log-in
[19:57] <Haris> upgrade+
[19:57] <nobawk> I mean loging-in the GUI
[19:57] <daftykins> Haris: no. like i said, clean install if it doesn't have anything on it already
[19:57] <lotuspsychje> nobawk: sudo service start lightdm?
[19:57] <Haris> I have 2 sites on it. one is production
[19:57] <daftykins> Haris: now is the time to get it right, rather than have a quirky setup you don't know anything about, months from now :)
[19:57] <Haris> sites = vhosts
[19:58] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: are you a bot?
[19:58] <daftykins> sites, same thing.
[19:58] <daftykins> Haris: well you should probably check those sites aren't anything special that they wouldn't cope with an upgrade.
[19:58] <swenzel> do I have to manually add a line to .profile which adds ~/.local/bin to my path?
[19:59] <daftykins> swenzel: i'm under the impression policy is to use ~/bin/ for custom stuff.
[19:59] <ubuntu846> daftykins: so im gonna try to boot windows 10 now
[20:00] <swenzel> daftykins, so ~/.local/bin is outdated? or how come pip installs the python entry points there?
[20:01] <Haris> the dafault vhost 000-default.conf doesn't have the vhost apachectl -S is showing its getting it from. that's the bit I'm confused about.
[20:01] <daftykins> swenzel: surely you've used Linux long enough to see that consistency is a mess :)
[20:01] <nobawk> lotuspsychje: are you a bot?
[20:01] <daftykins> Haris: might wanna try the apache channel itself or #ubuntu-server then perhaps.
[20:01] <lotuspsychje> nobawk: no
[20:02] <ubuntu846> daftykins: i have a problem now. i chose uefi etc. but when i reboot it only launches the bios :/
[20:02] <nobawk> ok
[20:02] <swenzel> daftykins, k I'll tell pip to install it to ~/bin then :D
[20:02] <daftykins> swenzel: but see whether ~/bin/ is in your path already, adding another isn't exactly a big deal
[20:03] <Pici> swenzel: the convention for python user packages is to install to ~/.local/bin
[20:03] <swenzel> daftykins, the default .profile adds ~/bin
[20:03] <swenzel> if it exists
[20:03] <swenzel> which isn't the case right now
[20:03] <daftykins> ubuntu846: there may be a keypress or entry in the BIOS/EFI that gives a boot menu to select the flash drive with 'EFI' beside it, boot override perhaps
[20:05] <xaro> ify HI all
[20:05] <swenzel> daftykins, Pici, guess I'll just keep both then :/
[20:05] <thebwt> Haris: do bring that into #ubuntu-server, it's way easier to follow an issue in there :p
[20:05] <tsoutseki> trying to run a .sh program using ./blahblah.sh command and I am getting a permissions error. what to do>
[20:06] <ubuntu846> daftykins: i cant find something like this in the bios :/
[20:06] <Haris> will do. please kindly hold
[20:06] <swenzel> tsoutseki, is it executable?
[20:06] <tsoutseki> swenzel, yeah
[20:06] <tsoutseki> it is an assembler
[20:06] <ubuntu846> in the boot menu it says: USB HARD DISK: UEFI: INTENSO ...
[20:06] <ubuntu846> but when i restart just the bios will be launched and not the usb stick
[20:07] <swenzel> tsoutseki, I mean is the executable flag set on the file itself?
[20:07] <tsoutseki> swenzel, i don't know
[20:08] <swenzel> tsoutseki, try 'chmod +x ./blablah.sh'
[20:08] <swenzel> tsoutseki, if that doesn't help I dunno... have to go now anyway, good luck :D
[20:08] <tsoutseki> swenzel, thanks, it worked now
[20:09] <daftykins> ubuntu846: got something to take pictures with of every page, then share online?
[20:09] <quantic> tsoutseki: You can check to see what permissions a file has by 'stat file' or 'ls -l file'
[20:09] <daftykins> !pm | tsoutseki
[20:10] <ubuntu846> daftykins: okay wait a sec
[20:10] <tsoutseki> quantic, i will have that in mind next time
[20:10] <keepguessing> hi I am trying to patch a debdiff. Does one patch it on a deb/dsc?
[20:10] <keepguessing> s/patch/apply/
[20:10] <keepguessing> solution given on https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/51908 is broken [link broken].
[20:12] <keepguessing> any pointer would be epfull too.
[20:12] <daftykins> keepguessing: found a script online - https://snipt.net/gjulian/apply-a-debdiff-patch/
[20:14] <ubuntu846> daftykins: here are the photos of the bios: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k2695xxgtxbekst/AAA03nAmLAszUbfez9EEJ_QXa?dl=0
[20:14] <keepguessing> daftykins: I had seen it. If you see the comments in the last link they had the same url which is broken.
[20:14] <daftykins> keepguessing: if you had seen it, then how come you've not run it and been fine?
[20:15] <daftykins> the commands look good.
[20:15] <keepguessing> daftykins: the link at the bottom is broken. I wanted to get more info about it.
[20:15] <keepguessing> btw thanks
[20:15] <ioria> keepguessing, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb
[20:16] <daftykins> keepguessing: you understand my link is different to your link, yes?
[20:16] <keepguessing> ioria: thanks.
[20:16] <ioria> ok
[20:16] <keepguessing> daftykins: yes I understand that. in you snippet. they give a link at the bottom to know more about it. that link is broken.
[20:16] <daftykins> ubuntu846: i think it suggests your flash drive just isn't prepared correctly, i see your 'Intenso' flash drive is #1 in the boot order.
[20:17] <daftykins> ubuntu846: nothing on the 'save and exit' page for boot devices?
[20:17] <keepguessing> daftykins: I wanted to know more. thats it.
[20:17] <daftykins> ah ok
[20:17] <ubuntu846> daftykins: unfortunately not, its on the last photo
[20:18] <daftykins> ubuntu846: oh are they maybe still uploading, i saw only 5 to start
[20:18] <ubuntu846> oh yes there should be 7
[20:18] <ubuntu846> http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-create-a-bootable-uefi-usb-drive-with-windows-10-setup/
[20:18] <daftykins> there we are
[20:18] <ubuntu846> maybe i should do it like this? maybe my stick isnt for uefi mode
[20:18] <ubuntu846> since i just used the normal windows download tool to prepare the stick
[20:19] <daftykins> ubuntu846: do you have another windows system?
[20:19] <ubuntu846> yes this laptop here
[20:19] <daftykins> so you used microsoft's downloader to download the ISO and prepare the drive? hmm
[20:19] <daftykins> that page refers to an out of date ISO and an alternative program
[20:20] <ubuntu846> yes this media creation tool by MSD
[20:20] <ubuntu846> *MS
[20:20] <ubuntu846> should i try to boot the stick in uefi mode with this laptop?
[20:20] <daftykins> yes, you should be already
[20:21] <daftykins> oh the other one
[20:21] <daftykins> you can test, sure
[20:21] <keepguessing> this is asking me to do install build-essentials. I am wondering if these commands would work in a container. That way I can build patch and then copy the deliverables/binaries to my host and kill the container. my ubuntu host wont change then.
[20:21] <keepguessing> Is my understanding correct?
[20:22] <daftykins> keepguessing: why are you so afraid of doing those things?
[20:22] <daftykins> just do it in a VM if you're really worried :)
[20:22] <keepguessing> daftykins: I am in a vm. My vm is small. I could create a snapshot and roll it back too. Felt that containers are faster.
[20:22] <ubuntu846> daftykins: alright i will try it out, i will be back in a few mins
[20:26] <thebope> Learning to love man pages exposes the coolest features of my terminal...
[20:27] <poltom> Hi, looking to install spotify on ubuntu Mate
[20:27] <maddawg2> i'm not a mate
[20:28] <maddawg2> at least not til after marriage
[20:28]  * daftykins facepalms
[20:28] <poltom> great info, thanx
[20:28] <stevedd> hello, i'm having trouble with my laptop, i installed 15.10 and it was working for a couple of days, but it now gets to the login screen then the screen goes black, the only weirdness that happened before this was after it resumed  it went black
[20:28] <genii> poltom: https://www.spotify.com/ca-en/download/linux/
[20:28] <genii> poltom: Instructions are on the page
[20:29] <lotuspsychje> stevedd: can you remember wicj grafix driver was active?
[20:30] <poltom> Thanx genii I have tried this but doesnt work. Some packages seem to be missing
[20:30] <ioria> stevedd, it  goes black after you enter the passwd   ?
[20:30] <poltom> Im trying to install it on Ubuntu Mate
[20:30] <stevedd> i have a nvidia graphics card, and i did have the drivers installed
[20:30] <genii> poltom: If you put the results of trying to install it into a pastebin someplace for examination, that may help
[20:31] <lotuspsychje> stevedd: wich card chipset and wich driver please?
[20:31] <stevedd> lotuspsychje: i have a nvidia graphics card, and i did have the drivers installed
[20:31] <poltom> genii: Thank you, Iĺl try that
[20:31] <stevedd> lotuspsychje: it is a 940m and i think i had whatever the newest was
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> stevedd: install nvidia-prime?
[20:32] <ubuntu252> daftykins: jezz its even more complicated to boot usb stick from this surface pro 3 than on any device -_-
[20:32] <ubuntu252> i will try with rufus
[20:32] <bekks> Shouldnt dd work just fine?
[20:32] <daftykins> ubuntu252: maybe the ISO was just bad, check it opens with winRAR / 7zip
[20:33] <daftykins> bekks: not on Windows ISOs nah
[20:33] <thebope> I think I got Spotify running on ubuntu before pretty well
[20:34] <ubuntu252> daftykins: yes might be, i have downloaded another one which i will try now
[20:34] <stevedd> lotuspsychje: i can try that, but before I do, does it help any that if I boot with nomodeset, it doesn't go black, but I can't seem to log in properly
[20:34] <thebope> I just followed their instructions online
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> stevedd: sure go into nomodeset, set right driver + install nvidia-prime
[20:34] <ioria> stevedd, have you    tried theGuest Account ?
[20:34] <daftykins> ubuntu252: right i'm going to pop off so i'll see highlights but maybe in some time
[20:34] <lotuspsychje> Steve_Jobs: from there enable performance mode in nvidia-settings
[20:35] <stevedd> ioria: i'll try that right now
[20:35] <ubuntu252> daftykins: oh thats too bad :/ u have some contact data maybe?
[20:35] <ubuntu252> daftykins: i dont know how i can do this without you hahah
[20:35] <daftykins> ubuntu252: if only there was say, ##windows
[20:36] <Gamoder_> Hi everyone, is there a way in nano to duplicate lines?
[20:36] <ioria> ctlr k ctrl  U
[20:37] <ubuntu252> daftykins: should i ask in this channel?
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> Gamoder_  ctrl k, ctrl u ctrl u , rather
[20:37] <daftykins> ubuntu252: sure, but i'm not even gonna be gone an hour.
[20:37] <stevedd> lotuspsychje: so when i boot into nomodeset, it won't let me login to the ubuntu default, usually I use cinnamon, when when i boot with nomodeset and in cinnamon it lets me in but cinnamon dies
[20:38] <ubuntu252> daftykins: oh okay so i'm gonna wait in this channel and try to do what is possible
[20:39] <lotuspsychje> stevedd: your on mint or so?
[20:39] <stevedd> lotuspsychje: no i'm using ubuntu with cinnamon desktop enviorment
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> kk
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> stevedd: can you login to unity, just for the install and driver switch?
[20:40] <MonkeyDust> cinnamon is in the repos, in 15.04 and later
[20:41] <stevedd> i can't seem to log into unity, i'm not sure why, when i switch into cinnamon it lets me into the desktop, but no menus or anything, i can access a terminal, but i'm unsure of what commands to give it from here on
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> !recoverymode | stevedd try this?
[20:42] <lotuspsychje> !recovery
[20:42] <TNTBot> i am ooking for a good ircserver for ubunutu server 12.04 what would be my best option?
[20:42] <Gamoder_> MonkeyDust: Thanks - not exactly a single command, but works
[20:42] <Gamoder_> oh, no, it doesn't
[20:42] <Gamoder_> the reason I wanted it was because I wanted to retain the clipboard content
[20:43] <maddawg2> ok i give the hell up... how do you install ubuntu server without a network card
[20:43] <maddawg2> it wont let me install it unless i have a network connection but i have custom routing that needs to be set up before the network will work
[20:43] <bekks> maddawg2: Exactly the same as it would have a network card.
[20:43] <maddawg2> it wont let me
[20:43] <maddawg2> it tries to conigure dhcp
[20:43] <maddawg2> and then fails
[20:44] <maddawg2> wants me to enter manually
[20:44] <maddawg2> but seeing as i dont have a network connection it wont work
[20:44] <daftykins> maddawg2: server ISO or mini ISO?
[20:44] <maddawg2> server iso
[20:44] <stevedd> lotuspsychje: once i boot into recovery mode what should i do?
[20:44] <daftykins> server installs fine without network.
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> Gamoder_  nope, nano doesnt copy to clipboard
[20:44] <maddawg2> so why wont it let me get past that?
[20:44] <MonkeyDust> (wasnt aware myself)
[20:44] <lotuspsychje> stevedd: install nvidia-prime
[20:45] <maddawg2> it gets to configuring network
[20:45] <maddawg2> fails
[20:45] <lotuspsychje> stevedd: and check sudo lshw -C video to see current driver
[20:45] <maddawg2> because there's no dhcp server
[20:45] <maddawg2> then wants me to enter network settings
[20:45] <maddawg2> but i do nt have any to enter
[20:45] <maddawg2> continuing just fails
[20:45] <maddawg2> and going back just brings me back to network detection
[20:46] <maddawg2> SEE same issue here:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/508102/installing-ubuntu-server-14-04-1-with-no-internet-connection
[20:47] <maddawg2> that exactly my issue
[20:47] <sysop-rick> Hi! does anyone know if this ram memory is compatible with Hp Microserver N54L - http://homeservershow.com/forums/index.php?/topic/5298-new-n54l/
[20:47] <sysop-rick> CMX8GX3M1A1333C9  = 2x8GB
[20:48] <sysop-rick> i don't know if they are writing about N40L or if it should be the same for N54L
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> sysop-rick: in ##hardware plz
[20:48] <k1l> sysop-rick: better ask in #hardware
[20:48] <maddawg2> daftykins, what are the steps to install ubuntu without a network connection?
[20:48] <maddawg2> it wont let me past the network setup
[20:49] <daftykins> sorry i have to leave right now, ask someone else.
[20:50] <ioria> maddawg2, are you   suse is the server iso ?  how big is it  ?
[20:50] <ioria> *sure
[20:50] <maddawg2> ioria yes:  i got it from herre: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/server
[20:50] <maddawg2> 574MB
[20:50] <maddawg2> ubuntu-14.04.3-server-amd64
[20:51] <ioria> maddawg2, have you  already  checked the iso ?
[20:51] <maddawg2> yes i'm booted on it right now
[20:51] <maddawg2> and i've used it on other machines (those had network access tho)
[20:52] <maddawg2> it brings me throught the hardware detection
[20:52] <maddawg2> detects my network cards
[20:52] <ioria> maddawg2, if you  can boot, it doesn't mean that  there   are no  errors
[20:52] <maddawg2> asks me to choose one (I have two
[20:52] <maddawg2> ioria the ISO is fine the MD5 even matches
[20:52] <maddawg2> and it's used many times now
[20:52] <ubuntu252> daftykins: i can launch usb stick in uefi mode now!!
[20:52] <ioria> maddawg2, ok
[20:52] <maddawg2> it boots i go through t he normal hardware detection
[20:52] <maddawg2> asks me t select my NOC
[20:52] <maddawg2> NIC*
[20:52] <maddawg2> I have two
[20:53] <maddawg2> i select one
[20:53] <maddawg2> wants to configure it with dhcp
[20:53] <daftykins> ubuntu252: \o/ get it all installed and updated then
[20:53] <maddawg2> i have no internet connection right now to give it
[20:53] <maddawg2> and then it fails
[20:53] <maddawg2> and then it wont let me skip (that i can see)
[20:53] <ubuntu252> daftyskins: alright!! how about the partitioning? should i just make my C partition with 300GB?
[20:53] <maddawg2> i cant configure the internet until I've got it booted due to some custom network settings that need to be put in
[20:54] <theo_> KKKK
[20:54] <theo_> KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
[20:54] <ioria> maddawg2,  have you tried to set it static    ?
[20:54] <lotuspsychje> theo_: stop that please
[20:54] <maddawg2> ioria there is No internet at all
[20:54] <maddawg2> it doesnt matter
[20:54] <maddawg2> i have no way to connect it to an internet connection
[20:55] <maddawg2> if i try to enter static info it just tells me it cant access the gateway
[20:55] <maddawg2> mainly cuz there isn't one
[20:55] <maddawg2> because it's not connected to the internet
[20:55] <daftykins> ubuntu252: sure
[20:55] <Techspectre> Hey guys, so.... I just restarted my computer and suddenly I'm getting 'error: no such partition' and it gives me grub rescue. Ubuntu 15.04 was working fine up until now
[20:56] <ubuntu252> daftykins: okay its installing now :) after that i need to install ubuntu right?
[20:56] <maddawg2> oh interesting now i'm able to see a "Don't configure network at this time" option
[20:56] <daftykins> ubuntu252: i'm leaving the room, no - install all your updates and get the drivers on.
[20:56] <ioria> maddawg2,  that's good
[20:57] <Techspectre> Any idea what could have happened here? It was flawless, all i did was restart. Didn't even do any updates.
[20:57] <ioria> maddawg2,  you can  configure it later
[20:57] <ubuntu252> daftykins: okay i will do that. is there anything i need to consider about installing ubuntu? i need to turn off secure boot etc. in bios?
[20:57] <maddawg2> yes that was the option i was looking for
[20:57] <maddawg2> i dont know why it wasnt showing before
[20:57] <ubuntu252> or u come back?
[20:58] <maddawg2> i had to cancel and go through the whole hardware detection again
[20:58] <Techspectre> Now it's saying unable to mount root filesystem
[20:58] <ioria> maddawg2,  but it's weird, because you   can  configure an interface also without  an internet  connection
[20:58] <maddawg2> yes once the OS is booted you can
[20:59] <maddawg2> but when it's trying to get out to the internet it will just fail on the install
[20:59] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu252: he went to dinner
[20:59] <maddawg2> i think it tries to install pacakges from the internet when it is installed
[20:59] <buzzmandt> Techspectre I had this same thing happened. Fixed it with a live session and installed a ppa ubuntu grub-repair. Rain the grub repair tool and it fixed it
[20:59] <ubuntu252> lotuspsychje: oh okay thanks for telling me, so i'm gonna wait :)
[21:00] <Techspectre> Buzzmandt okay ill try that.
[21:02] <buzzmandt> Techspectre https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:02] <buzzmandt> Techspectre I did option 2
[21:03] <Techspectre> What would cause grub to lose it like this
[21:03] <Techspectre> Grub starts up, too. I get the grub screen. But it doesnt boot
[21:05] <nobawk> there is no way to fix my problem
[21:05] <nobawk> goodbye ubuntu :))
[21:05] <theo_> VAI SE FUDE
[21:06] <nobawk> theo_: the lock screen locks the computer during upgrade to 15.10, and there is no way to come back
[21:06] <nobawk> we stucks in the universe forever
[21:07] <nobawk> :))
[21:08] <ubuntu252>  
[21:08] <daftykins> ubuntu252: just focus on finishing up the 10 install first
[21:08] <EriC^^> Techspectre: what's the problem?
[21:08] <ubuntu252> daftykins: okay almost done :)
[21:10] <Techspectre> Grub repair did not work
[21:10] <wileee> Techspectre, and?
[21:10] <ST-84> Techspectre, Did you try reinstalling Grub over a Chroot?
[21:10] <Techspectre> Eric^^, error: attempt to read or write outside of disk 'hd0'
[21:10] <ST-84> I reccomend reinstalling grub via a Live Medium
[21:10] <ST-84> Its much less a hassle then a grub repair
[21:11] <wileee> ST-84, get some facts first
[21:11] <Techspectre> I did boot-repair via a live cd
[21:11] <ST-84> wileee, facts?
[21:11] <ST-84> I did this way back when i was on Gentoo, Arch and Skackware/
[21:11] <ST-84> Slackware*
[21:11] <EriC^^> Techspectre: try manually fixing grub
[21:12] <Techspectre> Eric^^ how do i do that
[21:12] <ST-84> grub-install --target=i386-pc --recheck /dev/DISK ; grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:12] <wileee> ST-84, Donl;t be stupid here we all are exsperienced that help, however we don't just answer without some details here.
[21:12] <ST-84> Is what i would do.
[21:12] <stevedd> hello, i am still getting a blank screen when I boot ubuntu, i installed nvidia-prime and it didn't seem to help does anyone have any ideas?
[21:12] <ST-84> wileee, There are our details
[21:13] <Techspectre> St-84 i do that from grub rescue?
[21:13] <ST-84> Techspectre, Get an archlinux live cd
[21:13] <wileee> ST-84, Cool, than you are stupid, heh nice to know.
[21:13] <ST-84> When its booten
[21:13] <ST-84> Simply type that.
[21:13] <Techspectre> Booten?
[21:13] <ST-84> Booted*
[21:13] <ST-84> All you have to do is that
[21:13] <Techspectre> It doesnt boot
[21:13] <ST-84> Do you have a MBR or UEFI install?
[21:14] <Techspectre> MBR
[21:14] <ST-84> Good
[21:14] <Techspectre> Amd64 though
[21:14] <ST-84> Then burn that arch image to a usb or disc
[21:14] <ST-84> Boot of it
[21:14] <ST-84> And run those commands
[21:14] <ST-84> https://www.archlinux.org/
[21:14] <k1l> no need for a arch cd. you can use a ubuntu one
[21:14] <ST-84> Its faster on a arch though.
[21:14] <ST-84> Since you only need to run 2 command
[21:14] <ST-84> There is no need for a GUI
[21:14] <Techspectre> I will enter i386 even though my machine is x86-64?
[21:15] <k1l> Techspectre: if your hardware is 64bit dont install or use 32bit
[21:15] <ST-84> Techspectre, The bootloader goes on i386 when its MBr and not UEFI
[21:15] <ST-84> It does not effect the kernel
[21:15] <ST-84> i386= MBR x86_64 = UEFI
[21:16] <ST-84> Bootloader = i386 When you have bios , OS=amd64
[21:16] <ST-84> Your bootloader is seperate from the OS
[21:16] <Techspectre> Are people who dual boot just fated to have these problems all the time
[21:16] <wileee> no
[21:16] <k1l> Techspectre: what is the specific issue?
[21:16] <wileee> got 3 here neve an issue
[21:16] <Techspectre> I feel like i deal with this a lot
[21:16] <ubuntu252> daftykins: windows 10 installation almost done
[21:17] <stevedd> hello, i am still getting a blank screen when I boot ubuntu, i installed nvidia-prime and it didn't seem to help does anyone have any ideas?
[21:17] <wileee> Techspectre, Do you have the bootinfo summary saved?
[21:17] <ST-84> TIP:When you want to dual boot first install windows(If you really want to install that NSA spyware) then install Linux with the bootloader.
[21:17] <salty-san> ...salty balls!
[21:17] <salty-san> I mean...
[21:17] <salty-san> Hi.
[21:17] <ubuntu252> daftykins: insrallation is done should i install the drivers now?
[21:17] <ST-84> stevedd, I sended you a PM
[21:18] <mjayk> ST-84: lol i like that you ignore the fact you install linux onto your NSA device :)
[21:18] <k1l> !pm | ST-84 stevedd
[21:18] <salty-san> Why would anyone install Windows 10 and give the CIA free info? Come on.
[21:18] <ST-84> mjayk, Truu
[21:18] <mjayk> salty-san: same reason they would use a cell phone or PC ? this is not for this channel though :)
[21:18] <ST-84> mjayk, As long as you did not make the pc your self IA manufacturing all the parts it has spyware on it
[21:19] <ST-84> Backdoors.
[21:19] <ST-84> Linux just makes it a bit harder for them,.
[21:19] <salty-san> It's all about degrees and nuances though.
[21:19] <salty-san> Whatever they can get is harder and not the full picture.
[21:19] <theo_> YO MAN
[21:19] <salty-san> Does Win10 still have free keylogger?
[21:19] <theo_> MOTHERFUCK
[21:20] <k1l> !ot | salty-san theo_ ST-84
[21:20] <salty-san> Yeah, yeah...lol. Ok, so...
[21:20] <salty-san> I have this shutdown issue.
[21:20] <ST-84> Explhain
[21:20] <salty-san> On laptop...When I shut down, it shows the logout screen and the processor stops.
[21:21] <salty-san> But the screen doesn't.
[21:21] <salty-san> Freezes.
[21:21] <salty-san> And just sits like that forever unless I press power button.
[21:21] <django_> k1l: yo
[21:21] <django_> ubuntu is working tyvm for the help
[21:21] <ST-84> can you paste the output of journalctl -xe into pastebin use this command "journal -xe > errors"
[21:21] <Techspectre> Eric^^
[21:21] <salty-san> I have Ubuntu MATE on comp, but also seems to do this with Lubuntu and other distros presumably. Maybe just ubuntu base.
[21:21] <k1l> django_: good
[21:22] <ST-84> or just dump your entire journal using "journalctl > journal"
[21:22] <Techspectre> Says theres no directory /boot
[21:22] <Techspectre> Do i have to cd to /sda
[21:22] <salty-san> No command 'journal' found, did you mean:
[21:22] <salty-san>  Command 'xournal' from package 'xournal' (universe)
[21:22] <salty-san> journal: command not found
[21:22] <ST-84> Did you mount the drives?
[21:22] <ST-84> journalctl*
[21:22] <salty-san> k
[21:22] <EriC^^> Techspectre: did you boot a live usb?
[21:23] <wileee> Techspectre, When you run bot-repair, the bootinfo summary is one you should be saving. Start a thread at the ubuntu forums and post it besides being here, with it available.
[21:23] <wileee> boot-repair*
[21:23] <ST-84> Techspectre, https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Chroot <
[21:23] <ST-84> A good guide on Chrooting.
[21:23] <ST-84> Skip the Unpaclking systemfiles
[21:23] <django_> k1l: im trying to connect to wifi at school, on windows a login/pass prompt comes up and works fine..on ubuntu it doesnt
[21:23] <Techspectre> Let me install xchat in live cs
[21:23] <ST-84> Go to configuration and Setting up enviroment
[21:23] <django_> i get a more options which idk what they mean
[21:23] <ST-84> Techspectre, Only do the mounting and creation of directories
[21:24] <salty-san> None of this journal stuff seems to be working.
[21:24] <k1l> salty-san: which ubuntu version is it exactly?
[21:25] <daftykins> ubuntu252: no update first, for more ask the Windows guys :P
[21:25] <daftykins> ubuntu252: i can do it fine, but it's off topic in this channel.
[21:26] <ST-84> Is 15.X the first ver of ubuntu to use systemd then?
[21:26] <ubuntu252> daftykins: okay yes i see. after updating and installing the drivers, how do i need to go on for ubuntu?
[21:26] <daftykins> ST-84: yes
[21:26] <k1l> 15.04 to be specific
[21:26] <ST-84> daftykins, It shows that i have not been on ubuntu for a long time.
[21:26] <daftykins> !efi | ubuntu252 standard approach as per here, make up your media... be sure the installer sees 10.
[21:26] <daftykins> ST-84: well, 6 months :P
[21:28] <lvanderpool> anyone here use urxvt that can help me understand how to customize the color scheme?
[21:29] <techspectre2> How can i install xchat in the live cd if it doesnt have access to the right repos?
[21:29] <ST-84> techspectre2, Why not use hexchat?
[21:29] <ubuntu252> daftykins: alright i will read through it, i hope it will not crash my windows installation or something i have made some experience with that a few years ago with a dualboot hehe
[21:29] <k1l> techspectre2: that should be already included? what live cd is it?
[21:29] <HoloIRCUser3> Does anyone know a good channel for rooting tablets and installing ubuntu
[21:29] <techspectre2> Good call
[21:29] <EriC^^> techspectre2: dash > software & sources > enable universe repo
[21:29] <ST-84> techspectre2, Its free and more powerfull.
[21:30] <daftykins> ubuntu252: 'crash' would not be an appropriate word there
[21:31] <daftykins> theBlindGhoulie3: not on this network, no.
[21:31] <Techspectre> OKAY
[21:31] <Techspectre> Now that I'm not typing on a phone
[21:31] <ST-84> Techspectre, You using hexchat :3
[21:31] <Techspectre> Yes, I've used hexchat on windoze but I didn't realize it was available for the linux also
[21:32] <roach> exit
[21:32] <theBlindGhoulie3> daftykins: thanks. Thought id ask here first
[21:32] <Techspectre> Anyways, so I tried that command Eric^^ suggested and it said that /boot doesn't exist
[21:32] <Techspectre> But don't I have to cd to the drive
[21:32] <EriC^^> Techspectre: i didn't suggest anything
[21:33] <EriC^^> Techspectre: did you boot a live usb?
[21:33] <Techspectre> EriC^^, yes
[21:33] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo parted- l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:33] <EriC^^> paste the link here
[21:33] <ST-84> Techspectre, Did you mount the drive containing /boot ?
[21:33] <wileee> Techspectre, using windoze here you loose any cred you might have had, free ignore here.
[21:33] <Techspectre> Only use windoze when I have to, like the rest of us
[21:34] <Humorousone_> hello
[21:34] <daftykins> lets get off the chat and back to support only, please
[21:34] <Humorousone_> is there anyone here who I was talking with earlier?
[21:34] <ST-84> Techspectre, When you get acustomed to linux you wont need windows anymore.
[21:34] <Humorousone_> hey dafty
[21:34] <Humorousone_> daftykins: I GOT IT WORKING :D
[21:34] <daftykins> \o/
[21:34] <Humorousone_> no more freezes
[21:34] <Techspectre> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/dbgy
[21:34] <daftykins> Humorousone_: switcheroo thing did the trick huh?
[21:34] <Humorousone_> daftykins: as far as I can tell it's working
[21:34] <Techspectre> ST-84, I wish that were true. But we all know it isn't true if you want to play games.
[21:35] <Humorousone_> daftykins: yep. I permanently switched it to discreet graphics, maybe there was a problem with the integrated, idk
[21:35] <Humorousone_> daftykins: a tradeoff of power consumption for stability is worth it. I just have to test this now, see if it doesn't freeze at all
[21:35] <EriC^^> Techspectre: ok, you have 2 installs or one is a partition in the install? like a separate /home ?
[21:36] <ubuntu252> daftykins: sorry for the stupid question, but is it necessary to create an EFI-only image?
[21:36] <Techspectre> EriC^^, /home is on the HDD, while the OS is on the SSD
[21:36] <EriC^^> Techspectre: ok, type sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt
[21:36] <Techspectre> EriC^^, okay now what?
[21:37] <Orbeitrol> Hello, i have kubuntu 15.2 and im having a problem with the icons tray, the wifi icon disappears and the battery icon too and to make them appear again i have to deactivate and activate them, can someone help me with that issue please?
[21:37] <EriC^^> Techspectre: for i in /dev /dev/pts /proc /sys /run; do sudo mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[21:37] <Techspectre> EriC^^, I don't know why there's a boot flag on the /home partition
[21:37] <daftykins> ubuntu252: put the ubuntu ISO on the flash drive and it'll boot as EFI just fine.
[21:37] <EriC^^> type the whole line from for i til done
[21:38] <daftykins> ubuntu252: something like universal USB Installer from pendrivelinux.com or rufus you already grabbed will work fine with ubuntu ISOs
[21:38] <EriC^^> Techspectre: it's ok, np
[21:38] <Techspectre> EriC^^, okay done, now what?
[21:38] <ubuntu252> daftykins: okay so i will use rufus :) mbr for uefi is fine or?
[21:39] <EriC^^> Techspectre: type sudo chroot /mnt
[21:39] <Techspectre> EriC^^, next?
[21:39] <ST-84> EriC^^, OAO "mount -t proc proc /mnt/proc ; mount --rbind /dev /mnt/dev ; mount --make-rslave /mnt/dev ; mount --rbind /sys /mnt/sys ; mount --make-rslave /mnt/sys
[21:39] <daftykins> ubuntu252: in what context, where are you reading MBR?
[21:39] <daftykins> ubuntu252: your disk or SSD will already be GPT from installing as EFI.
[21:40] <ubuntu252> daftykins: rufus asks me for mbr or gpt
[21:40] <EriC^^> Techspectre: grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[21:40] <daftykins> ubuntu252: blech, UUI works :P
[21:40] <ST-84> grub install--target=i386-pc --recheck /dev/sda
[21:40] <Techspectre> EriC^^, installation finished, no errors
[21:40] <daftykins> ubuntu252: not like it'll be non-reversible if it doesn't work
[21:40] <EriC^^> Techspectre: update-grub
[21:40] <ST-84> grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:40] <ubuntu252> daftykins: hahah okay so i will use the other tool =D
[21:41] <Techspectre> after I update grub, I should do what ST-84 said next?
[21:41] <EriC^^> no
[21:41] <ST-84> What i said was the same as update-grub
[21:41] <Techspectre> ah
[21:41] <EriC^^> it's the same thing
[21:41] <Techspectre> so what now
[21:41] <Techspectre> try a reboot?
[21:41] <ST-84> I just prefer clarity
[21:41] <EriC^^> Techspectre: type exit
[21:42] <daftykins> ST-84: when someone already is receiving assistance, 'too many cooks' can occur
[21:42] <EriC^^> ST-84: gentoo user? :P
[21:42] <daftykins> :D
[21:42] <EriC^^> Techspectre: then reboot
[21:42] <ST-84> Arch,Gentoo and slackware but started my journey with ubuntu
[21:42] <Techspectre> Okay, fingers crossed
[21:42] <Techspectre> brb
[21:42] <ST-84> The old skewl ubuntu.
[21:42] <EriC^^> Techspectre: make sure sda is first to boot in..
[21:42] <EriC^^> and he's gone :D
[21:43] <daftykins> 'patience, grasshopper'
[21:43] <Humorousone_> daftykins: urm
[21:43] <Humorousone_> daftykins: it didn't switch after all >.<
[21:43] <daftykins> so what's happening?
[21:44] <Humorousone_> daftykins: do I need to switch graphics under shell? or can I just do it through terminal?
[21:44] <daftykins> shell is terminal
[21:44] <Humorousone_> sudo echo ON > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[21:44] <Humorousone_> whoops
[21:44] <daftykins> i genuinely have zero experience with hybrid AMD
[21:44] <Humorousone_> I'm just getting access denied
[21:44] <EriC^^> Humorousone_: that command won't work (fwiw)
[21:44] <EriC^^> Humorousone_: you need echo ON | sudo tee /sys/kernel......
[21:44] <daftykins> yeah needs some 'tee' goodness
[21:44] <daftykins> ;D
[21:44] <Humorousone_> heheeh
[21:45] <Humorousone_> EriC^^: Could you please explain exactly what that does?
[21:45] <Humorousone_> linux newbie
[21:45] <Humorousone_> *flutters eyes*
[21:45] <daftykins> it does what you tried to do, but working
[21:46] <techspectre3> K so that didnt work
[21:46] <daftykins> 'sudo echo' doesn't work as the permission isn't right
[21:46] <EriC^^> it pipes "ON" to tee which gets sudo privileges to write to /sys/...
[21:46] <daftykins> techspectre3: might be because you left too early :)
[21:46] <EriC^^> techspectre3: make sure sda is first to boot in the bios
[21:46] <techspectre3> Aaaaand now my machine wont even give me bios
[21:46] <Humorousone_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics <<--- I got the command I used from this article
[21:46] <guest1094382> um i'm fresh installing a system, and it seems that the logon has hanged, how can i fix this with a live boot?
[21:46] <Humorousone_> I'll give it a go thanks
[21:47] <ubuntu252> daftykins: do i have to install all drivers first before installing ubuntu?
[21:47] <daftykins> guest1094382: laptop/desktop?
[21:47] <guest1094382> desktop, and i have the error message, one sec
[21:47] <daftykins> ubuntu252: as long as all the updates are on, that'll be a good place to start on ubuntu. i.e. go through windows update multiple times after multiple reboots to ensure nothing remains.
[21:47] <EriC^^> Humorousone_: with all due respect to the author, i think that's the worst use of sudo in an article i've ever seen
[21:48] <EriC^^> sudo cat .. sudo grep.. sudo sudo almost
[21:48] <ubuntu252> daftykins: alright!
[21:48] <techspectre3> Okay well now ive got to figure out why my cmos memory is shot..
[21:48] <Nepoxx> Is it me or ffmpeg doesn't provide the libraires as before? libavfilter.so.5 certainly isn't there :/
[21:48] <daftykins> EriC^^: wasn't that Phil Collins?
[21:48] <EriC^^> lol what?
[21:48] <guest1094382> daftykins: looks like i don't have the error msg
[21:49] <bprompt> daftykins:    must be thinking of "su su su deoooo" by Collins =)
[21:49] <daftykins> :D
[21:49] <Nepoxx> Upgrading to 15.10 was definitely my biggest comp. mistake of 2015
[21:49] <daftykins> EriC^^: aww you're not in the other chan
[21:50] <guest1094382> so should i reinstall, and then not upgrade?
[21:50] <daftykins> guest1094382: describe what happens on your boot
[21:51] <daftykins> !nomodeset | guest1094382 maybe try this depending
[21:51] <guest1094382> i decrypt the disk, that goes fine, then i try to login to the account it hang's / freezes then reprompt's for the password
[21:52] <guest1094382> the system does catch the error for a split second, but then locks out
[21:52] <Humorousone_> just to double check - this: sudo echo IGD > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch
[21:52] <Humorousone_> would not work
[21:52] <Humorousone_> echo IGD | sudo tee /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch <<--- this would
[21:53] <Humorousone_> just double checking before I brick my laptop ;)
[21:53] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:53] <Humorousone_> EriC^^: +!
[21:53] <Humorousone_> +1
[21:53] <Humorousone_> switched over now, testing it out now
[21:54] <Nepoxx> Anyone know how I can get libavfilter.so.5 on Ubuntu 15.10? (and libavformat.so.56 and the like)
[21:55] <ubuntu252> daftykins: so the stick with ubuntu is prepared, i'm just running through some updates in windows and then i will try it!
[21:55] <Dawetllke20> I have a really stupid question as I am new to Linux, but is connected to the game OpenArena's servers to play live games in any way risky? I'm connecting to somon's server potentially at their house, yes?
[21:55] <guest1094382> daftykins: so should i reinstall and just leave un updated; i'm planning to have it airgapped anyways
[21:56] <wileee> Nepoxx, You might just address, what is is that is not playing with the standard codec load, from restricted extras, and or a vlc install, ffmpeg is not standard I believe now.
[21:57] <wileee> has not been for awhile
[21:57] <AvatarA> Dawetllke20, you risk more by searching on google, openarena doesn't download files by default, so you're good
[21:58] <daftykins> guest1094382: you should be on 14.04.3 then ideally
[21:58] <guestguesting> um i just hung my system after a fresh install and updates... can i recover, or do i need to reinstall (all data is backed up)
[21:59] <daftykins> guest1094382: but the concept of airgap'd is ridiculous if any flash drives will ever be used to introduce data to this system
[21:59] <Term1nal> So, the issue is still persisting. There was indeed a wildcard domain configured, however that's been removed for about an hour and it's still occuring. I've flushed DNS cache https://ghostbin.com/paste/ue778
[22:01] <guest1094382> daftykins: not the point though, plus my threat model is not that bad, it's just that running ethernet to it is problematic currently
[22:01] <guest1094382> daftykins: so do i need to remake my install disk?
[22:01] <daftykins> Term1nal: ##networking would be far more relevant as that is not an OS issue.
[22:02] <daftykins> guest1094382: if it's another version, yeah i would.
[22:02] <guest1094382> daftykins: what's a quick way to check?
[22:02] <guest1094382> (i'm booted in it right now...)
[22:03] <daftykins> cat /etc/issue
[22:03] <ubuntu903> daftykins: i will install ubuntu soon then :)=
[22:03] <mikhail> Hello peeps!
[22:03] <Andyy> hello
[22:03] <guest1094382> ty
[22:03] <mikhail> What's happening with Launchpad?
[22:03] <guest1094382> daftykins: root@ubuntu:~# cat /etc/issue
[22:03] <guest1094382> Ubuntu 14.04.3 LTS \n \l
[22:04] <mikhail> I can't go to Launchpad page to check for the PPA
[22:04] <k1l> mikhail: what do you mean?
[22:04] <daftykins> mikhail: can you be a bit more specific?
[22:04] <Techspectre> So what do you think would happen if you used the cmos jumper for your motherboard to reset the cmos, and then left the cmos jumper there
[22:04] <mikhail> and instead it shows me this
[22:04] <mikhail> w8 a sec
[22:04] <mikhail> "Lost something?
[22:04] <mikhail> This page does not exist, or you may not have permission to see it.
[22:04] <mikhail> If you have been to this page before, it is possible it has been removed.
[22:04] <mikhail> If you got here from a link elsewhere on Launchpad, sorry about that. We’ve recorded the problem, and we’ll fix it as soon as we can.
[22:04] <mikhail> Otherwise, complain to the maintainers of the page that linked here.
[22:04] <guest1094382> daftykins: looks like i'm at the newest version
[22:05] <k1l> mikhail: so the PPA is deleted?
[22:05] <EriC^^> Techspectre: did you try setting sda first to boot in the bios?
[22:05] <wileee> Andyy, Hi, let us know if you need help.
[22:05] <daftykins> guest1094382: yeah so what happens when you try and boot your install?
[22:05] <Techspectre> EriC^^, I'm in my installation now
[22:05] <EriC^^> ok
[22:05] <Andyy> Is it possible to install battlenet on Ubuntu?
[22:05] <guest1094382> daftykins: it hangs on the logon
[22:05] <Techspectre> EriC^^, but it was still giving me the error after what we did
[22:06] <Techspectre> EriC^^, it went away after I reset the cmos *again* (I've done it like a hundred times)
[22:06] <daftykins> guest1094382: and what graphics card + drivers does this system use? can you log in at a TTY? (Ctrl+Alt+F1)
[22:06] <Nepoxx> wileee: I used to run pianobar (pandora.com in the console) in 15.04, now I can't. I tried building ffmpeg from source, no dice
[22:06] <mikhail> give it a try and report me back
[22:06] <wileee> Andyy, Looks like wine does it, migh check #winehq https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=28855
[22:07] <Andyy> awesome thanks!
[22:07] <daftykins> mikhail: no, we don't know where you're trying to visit - nor why it's an ubuntu problem.
[22:07] <Techspectre> Nepoxx, have you tried pithos
[22:07] <guest1094382> daftykins: Intel® Core™ i3-2100 CPU @ 3.10GHz × 4
[22:07] <Nepoxx> Andyy: I'm running Battle.net using playonlinux, works okay
[22:07] <k1l> mikhail: which link?
[22:07] <Nepoxx> I have not Techspectre
[22:07] <wileee> Nepoxx, Ah, hmm never had a pandora problem here link? we don't support outside the ubuntu repos here is all.
[22:07] <guest1094382> daftykins: Intel® Sandybridge Desktop
[22:07] <Techspectre> Nepoxx, if you like pandora, you should look at pithos
[22:07] <Techspectre> it's a native pandora client
[22:08] <daftykins> guest1094382: so you're using the on-chip graphics, no graphics card?
[22:08] <mikhail> any link from launchpad
[22:08] <guest1094382> daftykins: yes
[22:08] <Nepoxx> Techspectre: can I run it through an ssh tunnel? I'm not in the US :P
[22:08] <mikhail> such as this for example: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuhandbook1/%20archive/ubuntu/corebird
[22:08] <Techspectre> Nepoxx, I have no clue. But you can try.
[22:08] <Techspectre> It comes with a GUI.
[22:09] <Techspectre> Anyways I'm going to see if I can actually restart my machine now without it imploding. Provoke the beast... stay tuned
[22:09] <mikhail> do you have the same problem or is it just me?
[22:09] <k1l> mikhail: that links are gone. like deleted.
[22:09] <mikhail> yea? why?
[22:09] <k1l> mikhail: whom ever gave you that link got outdated informations
[22:09] <daftykins> mikhail: the PPA is dead, the maintainer ran away...
[22:09] <mikhail> what about the other ppa's pages?
[22:09] <k1l> mikhail: because the owner of that launchpad ppa site deleted it
[22:09] <mikhail> any ppa?
[22:10] <mikhail> i got to any ppa page and I am receiving the same kind of error
[22:10] <k1l> mikhail: no. other PPAs work. so please be specific
[22:10] <mikhail> why
[22:10] <mikhail> ?
[22:10] <guest1094382> daftykins: from what i can remember when i looked at the original problem, and did the "fix" was that something was missing in the install process (i installed the os without internet, but would that make a difference?), and then i had to sudo -i and the do something > something_else
[22:10] <k1l> mikhail: which links?
[22:10] <guest1094382> *then do
[22:10] <daftykins> !ppa | mikhail see here, none of those are Ubuntu's responsibility. You want software? you have to find a new place to get it.
[22:11] <mikhail> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/%20archive/ubuntu/firefox-next
[22:11] <daftykins> guest1094382: sorry but that could mean _anything_ - so as i asked, please try ctrl+alt+F1 after boot to log in at a TTY.
[22:11] <mikhail> I tried this link and it still giving me the same error
[22:11] <guest1094382> daftykins: ty
[22:11] <daftykins> mikhail: please stop linking things, try and understand what i told you.
[22:11] <guest1094382> daftykins: sorry i couldn't provide more info...
[22:11] <k1l> mikhail: where did you get that links from?
[22:12] <k1l> mikhail: that are outdated links
[22:12] <Techspectre> EriC^^, I'm not sure what the problem is. I just tried another restart and on the first try, it gave me the error again. Then after another hard reset, I got in, but Ubuntu showed me 'ATA Bus errors' while starting.
[22:12] <mikhail> http://i.imgur.com/P2i4nxV.png
[22:12] <guest1094382> daftykins: i'll be back if it doesn't work
 mikhail: that are outdated links
[22:13] <k1l> mikhail: see https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam   there is no such archive
[22:13] <daftykins> mikhail: if you walk up to a bridge which is no longer there, do you phone a construction company and ask for them to rebuild it?
[22:13] <mikhail> ok w8
[22:13] <daftykins> mikhail: these PPAs are not coming back - and they are not #ubuntu 's problem - please look elsewhere.
[22:13] <ubuntu334> daftykins: should i also disable secure boot for ubuntu?
[22:14] <ubuntu334> i disabled intel speedstep and fast boot yes
[22:14] <mikhail> tell me at least any up to date ppa so I can check if it's working on webpage
[22:14] <k1l> mikhail: wait i found your error
[22:14] <ubuntu334> *yet
[22:15] <mikhail> try any up to date ppa webpage link for god sakes
[22:15] <daftykins> ubuntu334: there will not be a 'secure boot' per OS so i'm unsure what you mean, i also already linked you to the EFI guide page so you would have the answer there.
[22:15] <k1l> https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/firefox-next    you crippled the links and did exchange the "+"
[22:15] <Techspectre> ATA bus error.... I mean, I just had 2 hard drives burn up within a 2 week period. Could there be something wrong with the actual SATA bus that's causing disk problems?
[22:15] <daftykins> mikhail: i already told you PPAs are not supported and are your problem to resolve.
[22:15] <k1l> mikhail: so whoever gave you that link or youself did spoil the links
[22:15] <daftykins> Techspectre: less likely, cables could be bad.
[22:16] <Techspectre> daftykins, do sata cables deteriorate?
[22:16] <mikhail> hhmm
[22:16] <tushar> Hi guys !
[22:16] <daftykins> Techspectre: depends how rough you are with them :)
[22:16] <Techspectre> daftykins, lol well I don't make a habit of taking them places
[22:17] <daftykins> Techspectre: what kind of machine is this?
[22:17] <Techspectre> Let me try another restart... see what happens. I guess another possibility is that I have a dead cmos battery, having to reset it so many times, right? Could that cause these errors?
[22:17] <Nepoxx> Techspectre: got it to work using proxychains. Thanks a lot :)
[22:17] <Techspectre> daftykins, it's a machine I built
[22:17] <daftykins> Techspectre: recently?
[22:18] <mikhail> ok I got the problem
[22:18] <Techspectre> daftykins, no
[22:18] <mikhail> thank you everyone
[22:18] <mikhail> the search engine that i use did spoil that link
[22:18] <mikhail> any launchpad link
[22:18] <mikhail> thanks again for correcting me
[22:18] <mikhail> really appreciate
[22:18] <mikhail> d
[22:20] <ubuntu334> hmm i need to set this nomodeset stuff
[22:20] <wileee> ubuntu334, permanent?
[22:21] <daftykins> nah not installed yet
[22:21] <ubuntu334> wileee: first i wanted to choose "try ubuntu"
[22:21] <netameta> anyone know of mssql-pdo drivers  (mssql) not just normal sql
[22:21] <daftykins> ubuntu334: you sure you need it for first boot?
[22:21] <dna113p> Hi anyone know if there is a plugin for compiz that does the grid differently? I like the grid, its sweet, but I was hoping I could bind just 4 keys to grid windows. Example of what I need: <ctrl><alt>left to move window to left side of screen followed by <ctrl><alt>up to move window to top left quarter of screen. With grid as is that would put the window in the top half of the screen spannign the full width.
[22:21] <daftykins> netameta: Microsoft SQL isn't on topic here.
[22:21] <ubuntu334> daftykins: when i go on try ubuntu, there come errors like unsupported engines and failed to load fsc409c
[22:21] <ubuntu334> something with nouveou
[22:22] <ubuntu334> so i thought its the same
[22:22] <ubuntu334> when i press "e" i can put that in there?
[22:22] <netameta> daftykins: its a ubuntu package
[22:22] <wileee> ubuntu334, Thought you had good help, carry on. ;)
[22:23] <daftykins> ubuntu334: yeo
[22:23] <Fruidz> hello
[22:23] <daftykins> yep too
[22:24] <ubuntu334> wileee: yes awesome support here! i would never have come that far!
[22:24] <ubuntu334> nomodeset quiet splash
[22:24] <freddie42> Evening all - I'm a fool and have a home server running 12.10,  rather than 12.04LTS like I thought. Trying to upgrade to something sensible following instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades. Loads of 404s when I apt-get update, do-release-upgrade throws all the errors seen here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13003562/ - but no network problems that I can tell; can happily ping the IP that do-release-upgrade can't se
[22:24] <Guest26927> hi i ve a problem with weather indicator on my lubuntu 14.04. please help
[22:24] <wileee> !eolupgrade | freddie42
[22:24] <Fruidz> alguem ai do Brasil
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> !br
[22:25] <wileee> freddie42, Follow it correctly is all changing the repos.
[22:25] <daftykins> freddie42: you'd have so many releases to go through you'd be better off clean installing
[22:25] <daftykins> freddie42: (14.04)
[22:25] <wileee> +1
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> freddie42  12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 > 14.04
[22:26] <Guest26927> dutch people on board?
[22:26] <daftykins> !nl
[22:26] <daftykins> probably pretty quiet in there
[22:27] <Guest26927> ik kan mijn weather indicator niet zichtbaar maken in mijn lubuntu 14.04
[22:27] <aclaudem> How to make a 1px titlebar for gnome? (I use gnome shell)  Or a titlebar as tiny as possible
[22:27] <freddie42> Cheers wileee/daftykins - Had completely forgotten about the need to go through all the releases on the way, won't waste any more time on trying to upgrade, cheers
[22:27] <wileee> freddie42, Cool, good idea.
[22:28] <daftykins> :)
[22:31] <ubuntu334> now i'm waiting
[22:31] <mrhello> Hi everyone. I recently installed Ubuntu 15.10 on a new build. It is connected to a 1080p 24 inch TV via HDMI cable. However the launcher and items at the top of the desktop are off screen. Does anyone know of a solution? 1680 x 1050 fixes the issue, but the TV should be able to display 1080p
[22:32] <jak2016> hi all
[22:33] <jak2016> bash question: i need get in a variable the date and time: MYDATE=YYYY_MM_DD_HH_SS    echo %MYDATE%
[22:33] <netameta> Ok i found out the package i need for PDO its called php5-sybase, however when i apt-get install php5-sybase i get lots of errors
[22:33] <k1l> jak2016: #bash is the special channel for bash and bashscripting
[22:34] <netameta> when i do apt-get upgrade i also get those errors
[22:34] <wileee> mrhello, Is there on board resolution on the TV, besides ubuntu?
[22:34] <k1l> !paste | netameta put the output there
[22:34] <bandy> good evening
[22:34] <ubuntu334> okay now comes the tricky part with the partitioning
[22:35] <mrhello> wileee, let me check, good suggestion
[22:35] <stevedd> hello, I'm am having trouble with ubuntu, when booting it goes into low graphics mode and i can't seem to do anything to fix it
[22:36] <ubuntu334> daftykins: sorry for annoying you again but thats the last part now and i dont want to break everything up now by a wrong decision. is the partition with "efi" and "windows boot manager" the uefi partition which the article was talking about?=
[22:36] <wileee> mrhello, I have an great tv, but no hdmi on my laptop, so just a few guesses really, xrandr might show more
[22:36] <netameta> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13003664/
[22:36] <daftykins> ubuntu334: not sure what you're asking or why?
[22:37] <netameta> is the output i am getting
[22:37] <k1l> netameta: its saucy. that is dead
[22:37] <mrhello> wileee, I just checked, the TV resolution says 1080p 60hz
[22:37] <mrhello> wilee, I will try xrandr, thanks
[22:38] <daftykins> netameta: it's also an amazon ec2 instance, so you should spin up a new one on a supported release (14.04), copy any data, then kill that one.
[22:38] <k1l> netameta: its dead since 07.2014 already. since then you run a bunch of security issues sind every security issue since then is not patched. and there were a lot of issues with ssh, openssl, kernels etc.
[22:38] <wileee> mrhello, Good so the TV will run it, you suggested that before, I wonder if the #hardware guys might have insight if none here. I would include the lsusb on the tv probably in this.
[22:39] <k1l> netameta: so do an upgrade to 14.04
[22:39] <mrhello> wileee, having some trouble interpreting the xrandr output
[22:39] <jak2016> k1l: http://pastie.org/10517007 any advice?pls
[22:40] <k1l> jak2016: #bash , i am not a bash specialist
[22:40] <ubuntu334>  
[22:40] <jak2016> no answewr :(
[22:40] <netameta> daftykins: and k1l, so the only solution would be to update to 14.04
[22:40] <wileee> mrhello, you can put it in a pastebin if you like.
[22:40] <k1l> netameta: yes.
[22:40] <daftykins> netameta: yes
[22:41] <netameta> Thanks will check how to do that
[22:41] <k1l> netameta: see this http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/  that are all the security issues that get fixed by ubuntu. and you dont have all of them back to 2014
[22:41] <mrhello> wileee, thanks for your suggestion: http://pastebin.com/hDJ2xMDm
[22:42] <mrhello> wileee, scratch that
[22:42] <Bashing-om> stevedd: Graphic's card and driver ?
[22:42] <ubuntu334> daftykins: i uploaded the partition as photo for you:
[22:42] <mrhello> for some reason I did that for my laptop rather than the actual computer I am trying to fix
[22:42] <mrhello> let me create a new pastebin
[22:43] <wileee> mrhello, Cool, no prob.
[22:43] <daftykins> ubuntu334: where?
[22:43] <ubuntu334> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/k2695xxgtxbekst/AAA03nAmLAszUbfez9EEJ_QXa?dl=0
[22:43] <ubuntu334> i'm little bit confused with this sorry
[22:43] <stevedd> Bashing-om: nvidia 940m, i went through troubleshooting with ST-84 to get 346.59 on
[22:43] <ubuntu334> you can see sda2 is efi
[22:43] <ubuntu334> but who do i have to choose in the dropdown menu below?
[22:45] <mrhello> wileee, http://pastebin.com/yLgFrhs5
[22:45] <Bashing-om> stevedd: 346 version I would expect to work, however, Nvidia recommends the 352 version . What returns ' sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' ?
[22:46] <stevedd> nvidia-352 nvidia 352-updates intel-microcode
[22:46] <stevedd> Bashing-om: nvidia-352 nvidia 352-updates intel-microcode
[22:47] <daftykins> stevedd: you need nvidia-prime there too.
[22:47] <stevedd> daftykins: i thought i installed nvidia-prime previously with apt-get install nvidia-prime now sure why it is not there now
[22:48] <Bashing-om> stevedd: ' sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' . Is what I would do .
[22:48] <ubuntu334> daftykins: i have created the swap partition 8GB, type: logical, use as: swap. is this alright=
[22:48] <mrhello> wileee, I apologize for wasting your time. I just figured out the issue
[22:48] <netameta> k1l: i will upgrade my system to 14.04
[22:48] <mrhello> The TV has an option called "overscan", apparently this is on by default. Turning it off displays correctly
[22:48] <wileee> mrhello, No time waste here, cool, good job. ;)
[22:49] <k1l> netameta: good decision
[22:49] <mrhello> the launch and top bars now display correctly in 1080p
[22:49] <daftykins> stevedd: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit
[22:49] <mrhello> this was my first build, I'm very excited to be on ubuntu 15.10
[22:49] <k1l> netameta: maybe you need the !eolupgrade workflow for that since its long time eol
[22:49] <OerHeks> mrhello, good find.
[22:49] <wileee> mrhello, The xrandr looked good fr it.
[22:49] <daftykins> ubuntu334: one sec looking now
[22:50] <ubuntu334> daftyskins: okay take your time
[22:50] <daftykins> ubuntu334: heh Sie kommt aus Deutschland? ;)
[22:51] <daftykins> ubuntu334: why is sda4 NTFS also?
[22:51] <ubuntu334> daftyskins: ja :)
[22:51] <ST-84> ubuntu334, Cool, Im dutch btw
[22:51] <ubuntu334> daftyskins: i think there is windows installed
[22:52] <ubuntu334> ST-84: hey neighbour :D
[22:52] <daftykins> ubuntu334: oh ignore me, need to open my eyes :P
[22:52] <ubuntu334> haha no worries
[22:52] <daftykins> ok so 678GB to play with
[22:52] <stevedd> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13003847/
[22:52] <daftykins> so 50GB /, 8GB is your RAM? so 8GB swap, then the rest as /home i'd say yeah
[22:52] <ubuntu334> yes :) i thought about a swap a root and an home
[22:53] <daftykins> stevedd: ok if you only just added -prime you might need to reboot now
[22:53] <ubuntu334> but i forgot to make nfts partition in windows because i want to use one to share my data between ubuntu and windows. because both can read on nfts as far as i know
[22:53] <stevedd> daftykins: i have rebooted a bunch of times since i added it
[22:53] <daftykins> ubuntu334: yeah that'd be a good idea, a D: for data sharing of some kind
[22:53] <daftykins> stevedd: what kind of machine is this?
[22:54] <stevedd> daftykins: it is a laptop, asus x555ub
[22:54] <daftykins> oh that thing
[22:54] <daftykins> any controls in the BIOS to handle graphics selection?
[22:55] <ubuntu334> daftykins: yes so i would make this partition later in windows. so how about root 50GB, home 200GB, swap 8GB and the rest for the data partition? i'm little bit confused which i should make primary and which logical
[22:56] <stevedd> daftykins: doesn't seem like it
[22:57] <Techspectre> Guys!!! I figured it out, it was the SATA cable indeed!
[22:57] <Techspectre> Nothing was wrong with GRUB
[22:57] <ST-84> Techspectre, ._.
[22:57] <ST-84> Always check your hardware first
[22:58] <ST-84> Hardware->software
[22:58] <ST-84> Its IT 101
[22:58] <Techspectre> ST-84, I just didn't think a SATA cable could go bad
[22:58] <ST-84> Techspectre, Everything in a pc can go bad
[22:58] <daftykins> Techspectre: :) nailed it.
[22:58] <Techspectre> It's been installed in the same place, hard fastened for like a year
[22:58] <ST-84> Techspectre, Still
[22:58] <daftykins> sometimes they just go loose too.
[22:58] <ST-84> Always check hardware first
[22:58] <daftykins> stevedd: so 15.10, anything else done after boot? works fine until you try nvidia huh?
[22:59] <Techspectre> I'm so happy lmfao
[22:59] <dogic> i'm trying to configure sshd to only allow certain users
[22:59] <daftykins> good you caught the kernel messages
[22:59] <dogic> i add the following line AllowUsers: mark
[23:00] <daftykins> ubuntu334: nah make the partition now, just don't format it
[23:00] <stevedd> daftykins: it was working fine all day, then i closed my lid, when i next used it it would just give me a black screen, someone helped me and it made it so by just booting iget low graphics mode
[23:00] <dogic> however, i'm still able to ssh in with other users
[23:00] <Techspectre> Because dual booting is a real pain these days, and months ago I set it up for like the 5th time after many.... learning experiences, and I was like yes, finally, this is it, it will never fail again. So I'm so glad it wasn't that
[23:00] <daftykins> stevedd: hmm that sounds more complex. can you restore normal operation by removing all nvidia packages?
[23:00] <ubuntu334> daftyskins: oh thats good. i have made the root and home partition now primary is that okay?
[23:00] <daftykins> stevedd: oh i know, someone might've tried to get you to run nvidia-xconfig at some point, make sure you *don't* have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:01] <daftykins> ubuntu334: can you open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit && sudo parted -l | pastebinit" ?
[23:01] <Techspectre> Yes it's very fortunate that I saw the kernel errors, windoze wouldn't do that lol
[23:01] <daftykins> it actually would
[23:01] <Techspectre> oh
[23:01] <Techspectre> lol
[23:02] <stevedd> daftykins: let me check
[23:03] <ubuntu334> daftykins: i did
[23:03] <ubuntu334> paste.ubuntu.com/13003932
[23:04] <ubuntu334> daftykins: is this what you need?
[23:04] <OnkelTem> hi all
[23:04] <OnkelTem> How to update bash? Is there a good PPA?
[23:04] <OnkelTem> 14.04
[23:04] <teward> OnkelTem: is there any particular reason you want to update?
[23:05] <OnkelTem> yes, it is buggy and I have no any idea how to workaround one bug
[23:05] <stevedd> daftykins: there is an xorg.conf.10292015 and some backups and a xorg.conf.failsafe
[23:06] <ubuntu334>  
[23:08] <jak2000> for copy a file from server1 to server2(remote servers) wich is better? scp or rsync?
[23:08] <daftykins> ubuntu334: yep looking good
[23:08] <daftykins> ubuntu334: do a final picture of the partitioner window before you continue, then - with all your partitions made
[23:08] <Guest81115> q
[23:09] <daftykins> stevedd: no it's only an actual xorg.conf - the rest are ok. try "sudo apt-get purge nvidia* " and see if on reboot you get a working desktop
[23:09] <ubuntu334> daftykins: okay i put it in the same folder like before
[23:10] <daftykins> hmm not appeared yet, unless you replaced the other?
[23:10] <ubuntu334> i think now
[23:10] <daftykins> there it is
[23:11] <daftykins> ah you'll need to scroll to the bottom
[23:11] <stevedd> daftykins: ok doing that, i did some poking around in the xconf files, and it looks like one of the backups specifically disables the intel video card
[23:11] <ubuntu334> so all in all i have swap 8gb logical, root 50GB primary, home 200GB primary, and unformatted partition the rest
[23:11] <ubuntu334> there is only "free space" 0 mb :D
[23:11] <ubuntu334> under sda8
[23:11] <stevedd> daftykins: do you think that somehow the configuration got all messed up and intel is supposed to be disabled but somehow turned itself on?
[23:12] <daftykins> stevedd: with optimus setups, you always have to keep the intel and the nvidia running at once - it's a hybrid setup typically. the intel is connected to the screen but the nvidia draws to the intel before it's displayed.
[23:13] <stevedd> daftykins: ok i get a black screen, but i can see my mouse and the login sound played
[23:13] <daftykins> ubuntu334: sounds good, i'd try the install now then
[23:13] <ubuntu334> daftyskins: awesome! but what do i have to choose in the dropdown below?
[23:13] <daftykins> ubuntu334: it's ok as /dev/sda
[23:13] <ubuntu334> ATA [...]} or windows boot manager or anything else?
[23:14] <ubuntu334> okay good, do i have to select any special sda when clicking on install?
[23:15] <Vieira-Ubuntu> noobs
[23:16] <ubuntu334> okay trying now, so excited :D
[23:19] <stevedd> daftykins: ok i get a black screen, but i can see my mouse and the login sound played
[23:19] <daftykins> stevedd: did you say this was normal ubuntu or some other desktop?
[23:20] <stevedd> daftykins: i was using ubuntu with cinnamon
[23:23] <daftykins> stevedd: mmm so not a desktop i'm familiar with - ok ridiculous idea, but power off and remove the mains + battery, then hold the power button for a bit, then start it up again
[23:23] <curiousx> /j# archlinux
[23:26] <ubuntu334> daftykins: so it has finished but when i change the boot #1 in bios back to "hard disk: windows bootloader" it will just boot windows and not give me the option for ubuntu or windows
[23:27] <daftykins> ubuntu334: hopefully there is a GRUB/Ubuntu entry in there to select
[23:28] <ubuntu334> oh yes it seems
[23:29] <stevedd> daftykins: ok what i did was i purged the drivers then reinstalled them with sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall
[23:29] <daftykins> stevedd: no, you're meant to be trying boot with *no* nvidia on :)
[23:29] <stevedd> daftykins: it looks like that solved the problem, curiously cinnamon killed it self, but it looks like i can boot with graphics now
[23:29] <Techspectre> daftykins, I've got a harder one for you now.
[23:30] <daftykins> oh lucky me
[23:30] <daftykins> one sec i need a refill
[23:30] <daftykins> !cookie | daftykins
[23:30] <Techspectre> lmao
[23:30] <daftykins> fire away
[23:30] <ubuntu334> still this noveou error
[23:31] <Techspectre> daftykins, any idea how you can take all the input from a trackball mouse and change the input into scrolling instead of mouse movement under Ubuntu
[23:31] <daftykins> ubuntu334: that's fine, just need to install the nvidia driver - is it workable or impossible to use?
[23:31] <daftykins> Techspectre: hmm i have no idea on input devices i'm afraid.
[23:32] <Techspectre> that's okay lol. Anyone else?
[23:32] <ubuntu334> daftykins: so i can boot windows thats good, now im gonna try ubuntu, just 1 sec
[23:32] <stevedd> daftykins: thanks for all your help, i really aprecciate it
[23:32] <daftykins> stevedd: np!
[23:32] <daftykins> glad it worked out :>
[23:33] <daftykins> stevedd: was it still the nvidia-352 that went on, out of interest?
[23:35] <stevedd> daftykins: yes it looks like it, i think the whole issue stemmed from me suspending my computer, i don't know why they would mess up my drivers though
[23:35] <ubuntu334> daftykins: awesome seems to work!
[23:36] <ubuntu334> yes! :) well i gotta go to sleep now, i will test it tomorrow more in detail and give some short report here tomorrow evening
[23:36] <ens> just random knowledge since a guy asked earlier: to setup a vnc server for the login screen you can create the config /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf . an example template is /usr/share/doc/lightdm/lightdm.conf (or .conf.gz)
[23:36] <ubuntu334> so thank you really so much for your help! you were my lifeguard :D
[23:37] <daftykins> ubuntu334: enjoy o/
[23:37] <daftykins> i dunno about that, i'm not a good swimmer!
[23:38] <ubuntu334> so good night. really amazing support, thanks so much! :)
[23:39] <ubuntu334> hahah but great linux master
[23:46] <w00lf> Hi, i'm using kernel 3.19 in 14.04, is it recommanded to update kernel to 4.2 for ex ? Thanks
[23:46] <AEL-H> if I wanted to make an interactive graph of earths surface where should I start looking? I have recently covered basics of python 3 and have been asked to come up with my own project
[23:46] <AEL-H> wooopppss wrong irc sorry!#
[23:49] <Bashing-om> w00lf: One will get 4.2 in due time with HWE .
[23:52] <w00lf> Bashing-om: HWE ?
[23:52] <Bashing-om> !hwe | w00lf
[23:54] <w00lf> ubottu: i understand now thank you :)
[23:54] <bobdobbs> is there a gui other then tragtor and handbrake  available for transcoding videos?
[23:55] <bobdobbs> handbrake great, but limited. tragtor won't run on my system
[23:55] <bobdobbs> (unless I become a python expert)
[23:56] <OerHeks> vlc, winff http://techapple.net/2015/05/top-7-free-video-converters-for-linux-to-convert-videos-on-gnu-linux-ubuntu-linux-mint-fedora/
[23:56] <bobdobbs> oh. vlc does transcoding? cool.
[23:56] <OerHeks> and streaming
[23:57] <bobdobbs> thanks
[23:58] <bobdobbs> oh dammit. you need access to the toolbar menu to get to the transcoding options. Somehow I broke all the toolbar menus on my desktop.
[23:58] <bobdobbs> life is much more difficult without the toolbar menus