[02:42] <greeter> i have a question that i can't seem to find an answer to online. i want to upgrade to the latest ubuntu from 15.04 but i'm wondering what happens if i have to interrupt the download for some reason. do i just have to restart from the beginning or could worse things happen?
[02:45] <Unit193> Can't you just let it run all the way?  It's not a great thing to happen, but the download stage is the best place to bail.  You can recover from it more easily.
[02:46] <greeter> well i'd like to try that, but my internet connection is rather unreliable, and it can be really slow at times so i may have to let it go a long time
[02:48] <greeter> i know bad things happen if the actual upgrade is interrupted, not much i can do if there's a power failure but otherwise that shouldn't happen
[02:48] <greeter> i guess the best thing is to just try it, and then ask for help if i break things and can't fix them
[02:50] <Unit193> If you do stop it, /etc/apt/sources.list will likely still say wily, when you're technically on vivid.  I'd sed that back to vivid and do-release-upgrade again.
[02:50] <greeter> alrighty then
[02:51] <greeter> i'll let it go all night, with any luck that'll be long enough to fetch all the files
[04:14] <cimbakahn> How do you aquire Google Chrome?  It is not in synaptic PM.  Do you get it from Chrome's site, or is there a PPA?
[04:15] <Unit193> Don't like Chromium?
[04:16] <cimbakahn> I don't like Chrome but i have to use it for awhile.
[04:16] <Unit193> Chromium is in the repos, but you can also get Chrome from Google.
[04:16] <Unit193> (https://www.google.com/chrome/_
[04:16] <Unit193> )
[04:16] <cimbakahn> I am on the Google site right now.
[04:17] <cimbakahn> It reads:  Note: Installing Google Chrome will add the Google repository so your system will automatically keep Google Chrome up to date. If you don’t want Google's repository, do “sudo touch /etc/default/google-chrome” before installing the package.   What do i do?
[04:43] <greeter> well, for that question i asked a few hours ago, what happens if a do-release-upgrade download gets interrupted? you can continue it, it seems
[04:46] <Unit193> greeter: Without changing sources.list?  Nice!
[04:46] <greeter> seems to be working. when i ran the command again, it recognized that i had downloaded just shy of 1 gb of data thus far, and it resumed where the download got cut off
[04:59] <greeter> ah, there's one caveat i guess. it had to restart the package i was working on, which unfortunately by itself was nearly finished a 584 mb download, but it could be a lot worse, i'm still pleased :-)
[11:32] <julien_> hello
[11:33] <julien_> is there anybody here ?
[11:34] <hateball> julien_: A few, do you have a question?
[11:36] <julien_> yes
[11:36] <julien_> i installed lubuntu and there's no "paquets" in synaptic
[11:37] <julien_> id like to install the french translation of firefox for example
[11:38] <julien_> in fact there's nothing in synaptic ...
[11:38] <hateball> julien_: run this in a terminal "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox-locale-fr"
[11:38] <hateball> julien_: do you have a working internet connection?
[11:39] <julien_> yes
[11:39] <julien_> i installed Libreoffice by using the "software collection" not by synaptic
[11:40] <julien_> "logithèque lunbuntu" (software lubuntu collection) is working
[11:42] <julien_> i tried with the terminal but it says : unable to find mozilla-firefox-fr-fr
[11:43] <hateball> julien_: Did you try with what I typed?
[11:43] <hateball> Or did you just try and find a package named mozilla-firefox-fr-fr which does not exist
[11:45] <julien_> sorry i didn't see
[11:45] <julien_> i try
[11:47] <julien_> yes something is happening :)
[11:47] <julien_> updating sources i suppose
[11:47] <julien_> updating ok but firefox-locale-fr doesn't work
[11:48] <julien_> i made a mistake
[11:50] <julien_> it works
[11:51] <julien_> not 100% translated but its better
[11:53] <hateball> well there are more packages you will want for proper translations
[11:53] <hateball> julien_: run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and upgrade anything it wants, then reboot if needed, see if Synaptic behaves better after that
[11:54] <julien_> thanks
[11:54] <julien_> synaptic is ok
[11:54] <julien_> a part of the window was hidden ...
[11:55] <julien_> thanks a lot!
[11:56] <julien_> (I'll give that old pc to a children who's got problems at school, hope he'll enjoy :)
[11:57] <hateball> julien_: :)
[11:57] <hateball> julien_: you could "sudo apt-get install language-pack-fr"
[11:58] <hateball> if something perhaps is missing
[12:02] <julien_> thanks
[12:03] <julien_> do you think chromium should be better than firefox ?
[12:06] <hateball> julien_: For what?
[12:07] <hateball> It's all personal preference really
[12:07] <hateball> Chromium does have support for more recent flash, if you install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[12:07] <julien_> for faster launch
[12:07] <hateball> And it feels faster on the hardware I use at least. Firefox has it's pro's too
[12:08] <julien_> firefox is quite long to launch
[12:08] <julien_> to start
[12:08] <julien_> but it may be normal
[12:23] <julien_> hateball : thanks again and goodbye
[23:18] <tachibana> i swear to god man 20% of the time i run a youtube video in firefox ever since an update and restart my browser crashes and I have to reload the vid all over again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[23:18] <wxl> are you using html5 tachibana? as i understand it, firefox ain't too friendly to flash anymore.
[23:19] <tachibana> i hate html5
[23:19] <tachibana> back in my day we used real languages
[23:19] <wxl> well, according to firefox, that's your problem
[23:19] <wxl> maybe try chrome
[23:19] <ianorlin>  tachibana why not copy paste into vlc
[23:19] <wxl> that too
[23:20] <tachibana> >chrome
[23:20] <ianorlin> it actually works quite well in that once you switch to vlc press control n to bring up keyboard shortcuts and control v to paste
[23:21] <tachibana> Does everyone use Opera now a days o what
[23:21] <tachibana> or*
[23:21]  * wxl uses chrome
[23:21] <tachibana> kind of defeats the purpose of using Lubuntu and Lxde if your using a UI that drains all the processing power and memory just to switch tabs
[23:22] <wxl> i don't have that problem
[23:22] <ianorlin> tachibana: you could maybe use qupzilla
[23:22] <HeadlessHorseman> wxl: What's wrong with FF and flash?  Not blacklisted here.
[23:23] <HeadlessHorseman> Uses a sandbox to not crash the browser.
[23:24] <HeadlessHorseman> !info browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash
[23:24] <wxl> HeadlessHorseman: http://gizmodo.com/firefox-now-blocks-flash-by-default-1717664482
[23:25] <HeadlessHorseman> Not seeing that on wily.
[23:26] <tachibana> im not even using that old of a computer and chrome still is a major memory hog
[23:26] <wxl> even if you don't see the problem, i think that the writing is on the wall for firefox and flash
[23:26] <wxl> tachibana: like i said, i don't have that problem. not sure what to tell you.
[23:27] <tachibana> I am using a circa windows Vista -days laptop
[23:28] <wxl> i've got a bunch of tabs and extensions and all kinds of crap and it's taking about a gig
[23:29] <HeadlessHorseman> wxl: Right, which is why browser-plugin-freshplayer-pepperflash is a good backup plan.
[23:32] <wxl> running firefox right now with only one tab and no extension is taking over a gig
[23:33] <wxl> if you ask me, that's not a check in the firefox column, tachibana
[23:33] <wxl> HeadlessHorseman: potentially. unttil they decide they don't trust that either :)
[23:33] <HeadlessHorseman> wxl: ...What addons?!  Mine's not that bad with 16 tabs!
[23:34] <wxl> HeadlessHorseman: none
[23:35] <wxl> in any case, we've had the browser war about a billion times in the mailing list
[23:35] <wxl> my feeling is use what you like
[23:36] <HeadlessHorseman> 352MB, no swap.  And yeah, it's all very subjective.  Though I think we all agree, adblocker.
[23:36] <wxl> ADP+HTTPS Everywhere+Privacy Badger
[23:39] <wxl> hahahhahah so i lied
[23:39] <wxl> the chrome browser is gobbling up about the same amount of ram as firefox is
[23:40] <wxl> of course all its extensions and tabs are more, but, that's about the same same
[23:44] <tachibana> so I got this site I like to go on but it's got some weird script that leaves an annoying popup if I got adblock on
[23:45] <wxl> that's probably a good sign not to go there XD
[23:45] <tachibana> I need to figure out how to script that crap out with like greasemonkey or something
[23:46] <tachibana> I also heard about an adblock hack where it echanges all banners and ads with anime girls, where do I find that gold
[23:47] <wxl> 4chan
[23:47] <tachibana> and have you guys seen that lubuntu shell columns and start bar themer mod to rice it out with even more anime girls?
[23:48] <tachibana> triggered
[23:49]  * wxl hasn't been searching for anime girl themes… lately
[23:50] <tachibana> bruh what type of themes do you even search for
[23:51] <tachibana> I bet you keep your openbox stock
[23:52]  * wxl doesn't use openbox
[23:52] <tachibana> i bet your lubuntu bar is powder blue
[23:52]  * wxl doesn't use lxpanel
[23:53] <tachibana> pics
[23:53] <wxl> i use awesome wm
[23:57] <wxl> it's a tiling window manager, so it's not for everyone, tachibana
[23:57] <wxl> heck, i can't even see my background
[23:58] <wxl> tiling window managers, as a rule, tend ot be kind of anti-theme :)
[23:58] <wxl> i think this is largely to appease people that tend ot be power cli users
[23:58] <wxl> most days, my desktop doesn't look very different than this:
[23:58] <wxl> http://awesome.naquadah.org/images/screen.png