| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| mapppaDE | Hi all;( | 06:42 |
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| mapppaDE | Had internet for a week ans then no more | 06:42 |
| === MooDoo is now known as Guest11826 | ||
| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 10:11 |
| directhex | is it? :( | 10:21 |
| brobostigon | morning? yes, 10:22am. | 10:23 |
| diddledan_ | lol: https://twitter.com/mark_azevedo/status/657600892842082306 | 11:34 |
| diddledan_ | then of course there's MS employees leaking classified documents at tech conferences: https://twitter.com/andrerav/status/658645629208522752 | 11:36 |
| ali1234 | if yesterday was 0xdfec and today is 0xdfed, what's the date encoding? | 12:12 |
| ali1234 | i'm pretty sure it's not "days since 10th october 1858" | 12:13 |
| DJones | Anybody know any programmers with Delphi experience + other languages that are looking for a job based in the north west, just been asked by our IT support if I knew anybody | 12:16 |
| zmoylan-pi | delphi, a civilised ide for more civilised times... :-) | 12:20 |
| directhex | because everybody loves object pascal! | 12:22 |
| zmoylan-pi | it kept away the visual basic programmers... :-P | 12:23 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === Matrixiumn is now known as Xack | ||
| awilkins | DJones ; I know the CEO of e-say has some Delphi experience but they're a contractor | 12:47 |
| awilkins | And you're not here either | 12:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | maybe an advert on myspace... :-) | 12:48 |
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch | ||
| diddledan_ | seriously freaky - last night I couldn't get the song "englishman in new york" aka "I'm an alien" out of my head. Just popped into currys and the first song they played while I was there was that one! | 13:11 |
| zmoylan-pi | co ink a dink | 13:12 |
| TwistedLucidity | diddledan_: You can see the future! Quick, what are this weekend's Lotto numbers? | 13:14 |
| zmoylan-pi | pi, iota.... | 13:14 |
| === marcus_ is now known as Guest26442 | ||
| === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| === MooDoo is now known as Guest29504 | ||
| mapps | yay i have internet again | 20:49 |
| daftykins | again again!? | 20:50 |
| mapps | well it broke and they took ages to fix | 20:51 |
| mapps | :( | 20:51 |
| daftykins | O_O | 20:51 |
| mapps | had it ainstalled 13th october worked for a week then stopped | 20:55 |
| Renfried | who is your isp? | 20:57 |
| mapps | u-mee | 20:58 |
| mapps | not in the uk anymore;p | 20:58 |
| Renfried | never heard of it | 20:59 |
| mapps | yea | 21:02 |
| mapps | because its not uk | 21:02 |
| mapps | :P | 21:02 |
| mapps | u-mee.com | 21:02 |
| Renfried | ahh argentina ;) | 21:05 |
| mapps | nopep | 21:09 |
| mapps | gibraltar | 21:10 |
| Renfried | quiet channel for so many people here | 21:16 |
| daftykins | it's Friday night. | 21:16 |
| daftykins | was just pondering going to the pub, myself | 21:16 |
| Renfried | back in the day nerds and geeks didnt go out at all :) | 21:17 |
| Renfried | they left that to the cool kids | 21:17 |
| daftykins | mapps: so what's new? | 21:33 |
| Renfried | I am using an acer i5-m450 laptop. If I used a Dual core 1.6Ghz desktop, both with 4Gb ram, would i notice a major speed difference? (good or bad) | 21:35 |
| daftykins | well "1.6GHz desktop" doesn't mean much compared to a first gen i5, since we don't know what generation of processor it is | 21:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | and these days if one is using a hard disk and one is using an ssd? | 21:38 |
| Renfried | i have no idea what gen it is, all I know is Intel dual core 1.6GHz.... I was offered a desktop, but have not seen it. It currently has windows 7 on it, I would imagine it is fairly old | 21:39 |
| daftykins | yeah that'd be no comparison too :) | 21:39 |
| mapps | not much daftykins;) | 21:39 |
| mapps | same job same place | 21:39 |
| daftykins | :) | 21:39 |
| Renfried | both would use hard disk, neither has ssd | 21:39 |
| daftykins | Renfried: would need a quick spec check then really. | 21:39 |
| mapps | Renfried would be enough for xubuntu | 21:39 |
| daftykins | Renfried: it coming into your hands for free? | 21:39 |
| Renfried | cheap.... about £50. for free I would just take it and try it :) | 21:40 |
| daftykins | to be honest something with that clock speed in a desktop is a slight oddity | 21:40 |
| Renfried | I am using mate, so would need to run that, otherwise it wont get used | 21:41 |
| daftykins | so a small alarm bell is ringing to me | 21:41 |
| Renfried | whats wrong with the clock speed? | 21:41 |
| daftykins | it's an indication of age | 21:42 |
| daftykins | what i'm getting at is if it's a 1.6GHz Pentium 4 someone has windows 7 on, i'd leave it where it is :) | 21:43 |
| Renfried | yeah i would too. | 21:44 |
| Renfried | but a dual core 1.6 is the recommended specs for mate | 21:45 |
| Renfried | but just wondering if it would be that much slower than my i5.....my clock speed is 1.8 with 2.4 in burst mode | 21:46 |
| daftykins | but being a P4 (just as an example, i know it's a guess) would hint at really terrible RAM and an old PATA slow disk | 21:46 |
| daftykins | so you'd need more detail to make an informed decision | 21:46 |
| Renfried | it has everything but speakers, so may even be worth it for a cheap monitor and spare parts | 21:50 |
| daftykins | perhaps, though spare parts not even compatible with what you have now if they're too far apart age wise | 21:51 |
| daftykins | if it's something easy like a Dell, you could look up the service tag for a detailed spec | 21:52 |
| daftykins | or just query the BIOS. | 21:52 |
| ali1234 | i wouldn't touch anything that's not i5 quad core or above | 21:52 |
| Renfried | I want to stick away from intel intergrated graphics, as the one on this laptop is terrible. | 21:54 |
| Renfried | ali1234: Depends on what you use it for I suppose. I would love a new laptop but funds are not there. So a cheap desktop that I can upgrade bit by bit may be the way to go | 21:55 |
| ali1234 | no you want intel graphics on a laptop. dual graphics set ups are a pain | 21:55 |
| ali1234 | you can get a decent thinkpad for around £100 if you shop around | 21:56 |
| Renfried | the only game i want to play it cities skylines, but doesnt support intel graphics. | 21:57 |
| ali1234 | dont buy a laptop for gaming | 21:57 |
| Renfried | define decent | 21:57 |
| ali1234 | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-x220-Laptop-Core-i5-2520-4Gb-160GB-USB-3-0-Webcam-/321901360957?hash=item4af2d0f73d:g:CxgAAOSwl9BWKqMl | 21:57 |
| Renfried | thats not a bad option, although one dealbreaker, no numeric keypad... | 21:59 |
| ali1234 | use numlock | 21:59 |
| Renfried | U sed to have a thinkpad t42, and hated numlock | 22:00 |
| daftykins | no there's nothing wrong with intel graphics, it's just the age of your current system | 22:00 |
| Renfried | my laptop is only about 3-4 years old | 22:01 |
| ali1234 | cities skylines is known to not work on intel tho | 22:01 |
| daftykins | the first gen core i5 one? it's rubbish. | 22:01 |
| daftykins | (the graphics) | 22:01 |
| Renfried | i think it as Intel HD3000 graphics | 22:01 |
| daftykins | i thought you said you had a core i5 450M | 22:04 |
| daftykins | http://ark.intel.com/products/49022/Intel-Core-i5-450M-Processor-3M-cache-2_40-GHz | 22:04 |
| daftykins | first gen HD graphics = terribad :) | 22:05 |
| Renfried | am sure it is core i5 450M, it is an acer aspire 5742 laptop | 22:09 |
| Renfried | says i5 m450 when i check | 22:14 |
| Renfried | cant get it to name the hd3000, cat remember how i did it before, just saying intergated graphics | 22:14 |
| Ildera | Hi, I'm looking to get my hands on a 14.04 LTS pressed dvd, but having some difficulty. | 22:15 |
| daftykins | Renfried: are you typing from it right now? | 22:16 |
| daftykins | Renfried: grep model /proc/cpuinfo | 22:16 |
| daftykins | Ildera: how come you need one? | 22:16 |
| Ildera | It's for my 92 year old grandmother, I really don't want to have to explain to her how to install from a usb stick, and pressed discs have a longer lifespan than burnt ones. | 22:18 |
| Ildera | I do realise it's rather a 1995 sort of problem, but this is what happens when you're 92 | 22:22 |
| === Myrtti is now known as DoloresUmbridge | ||
| Renfried | daftykins: yes Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 450 @ 2.40GHz | 22:23 |
| daftykins | yep so rubbish graphics | 22:24 |
| daftykins | i'd not ask more than a working desktop of that generation | 22:24 |
| daftykins | can anyone confirm you need a sky subscription card to make use of recording on a sky+ box? | 22:25 |
| daftykins | thus be paying the evil company some money? :) | 22:26 |
| daftykins | my folks are thinking of buying a box from someone but i think it's a mistake as they won't be able to record for free. | 22:26 |
| Renfried | i am sure you do need a sky+ subscription to record | 22:29 |
| Renfried | you can use it a freesat box without, just not record, best to buy a freeview dvr | 22:30 |
| daftykins | *nod* thought the same, thanks :) | 22:31 |
| daftykins | probably best they get a freesat HD box, not sure we can get it down here mind | 22:31 |
| Renfried | where are you? | 22:31 |
| daftykins | Channel Islands | 22:32 |
| Renfried | if you can get normal TV reception you should be able to get freeview, just not sure about HD | 22:33 |
| Renfried | teach them how to torrent :) | 22:34 |
| daftykins | hell to the no! | 22:34 |
| daftykins | well freesat is via the satellite dish, but the cone of influence from the beam tends to ignore us for most channels | 22:34 |
| daftykins | actually i think a mate said they can get all the channels on freesat and i got a tonne when i tried it out on my TV (which has freesat built in) | 22:35 |
| daftykins | they're never gonna pay for a box though | 22:35 |
| Renfried | i have BB with sky, not bad fibre connection 40Mb down and 10Mb up | 22:36 |
| daftykins | we have our own telcos with monopolies down here | 22:37 |
| daftykins | still 40/5 VDSL2 though \o/ | 22:37 |
| daftykins | btw that's VDSL2 as well, not fibre :) just marketed as such to sound futuristic | 22:37 |
| Renfried | i could go 200Mb with virgin, but they throttle | 22:38 |
| Renfried | they class it as fibre to the cabinet (FTTC) but yeah, all openreach is the same, | 22:40 |
| Renfried | for someone who started with a 2400 baud modem, call it what you will, as long as it is 40/10 i am happy | 22:42 |
| daftykins | :) | 22:42 |
| daftykins | yeah does me well | 22:42 |
| daftykins | a local secondary telco has just installed a direct fiber feed to their managing director's home, lucky swine | 22:42 |
| zmoylan-pi | i started with a 2400 baud modem but spent most of the 90s using it in bell 103 mode at 300bps... | 22:43 |
| Renfried | i then went to a suprafax 14.4k, then a mightly udrobotics 56k.....1.5KB download speed, could download a full amiga 700k disk in 30 minutes.....lightning fast | 22:47 |
| Renfried | *usrobotics | 22:47 |
| Renfried | i could upgrade my fibre to 80 down and 20 up, but no need. never needed more than i have | 22:48 |
| daftykins | back shortly, gonna grab a pint next door i think | 22:48 |
| zmoylan-pi | and file transfer protocol was just moving away from kermit to xmodem... | 22:51 |
| zmoylan-pi | then xmodem (crc) for error checking, ymodem for multiple files and then the holy grail of zmodem for resuming after interrupted file transfers :-) | 22:55 |
| diddledan_ | back on dialup I used getright a LOT | 23:09 |
| diddledan_ | and it seems to still exist: http://getright.com/ | 23:09 |
| diddledan_ | with a terrible website :-p | 23:09 |
| zmoylan-pi | very 90s... | 23:15 |
| Renfried | i used z and ymodem from memory | 23:37 |
| zmoylan-pi | i thought i'd use ymodem more when i discovered it could transfer a bunch of files but by then i was already using pak and then pkzip to compress all the files into one small file | 23:38 |
| Renfried | i still have my usrobotics modem somewhere.... i am sure dialup isps must exist somewhere still... | 23:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | i have a battery powered 9600 baud fax modem here i couldn't bring myself to throw out... :-) | 23:40 |
| Renfried | I also have a commodore 64 with the 1571 diskdrive that sounds like a couple of woodpeckers mating when you loaded something | 23:41 |
| Renfried | or was it 1541.... cant remember | 23:42 |
| Renfried | and an amiga 500. havnt used them in 20 years, but still have them | 23:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | i still remember poke 808,251 for c64 to disable run stop... :-) | 23:43 |
| Renfried | 10 Print "Hello World" | 23:43 |
| Renfried | 20 GOTO 10 | 23:43 |
| zmoylan-pi | and in a local shop the c64 power button was blocked by the counter it was sunk into so they couldn't stop the scolling message | 23:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | but in out case it was 10 print "wardy is a leper "; | 23:44 |
| zmoylan-pi | poor sod had terminal acne | 23:45 |
| Renfried | lol | 23:48 |
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