=== Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away [06:42] Hi all;( [06:42] Had internet for a week ans then no more === MooDoo is now known as Guest11826 [10:11] morning boys and girls. [10:21] is it? :( [10:23] morning? yes, 10:22am. [11:34] lol: https://twitter.com/mark_azevedo/status/657600892842082306 [11:36] then of course there's MS employees leaking classified documents at tech conferences: https://twitter.com/andrerav/status/658645629208522752 [12:12] if yesterday was 0xdfec and today is 0xdfed, what's the date encoding? [12:13] i'm pretty sure it's not "days since 10th october 1858" [12:16] Anybody know any programmers with Delphi experience + other languages that are looking for a job based in the north west, just been asked by our IT support if I knew anybody [12:20] delphi, a civilised ide for more civilised times... :-) [12:22] because everybody loves object pascal! [12:23] it kept away the visual basic programmers... :-P === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === Matrixiumn is now known as Xack [12:47] DJones ; I know the CEO of e-say has some Delphi experience but they're a contractor [12:47] And you're not here either [12:48] maybe an advert on myspace... :-) === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [13:11] seriously freaky - last night I couldn't get the song "englishman in new york" aka "I'm an alien" out of my head. Just popped into currys and the first song they played while I was there was that one! [13:12] co ink a dink [13:14] diddledan_: You can see the future! Quick, what are this weekend's Lotto numbers? [13:14] pi, iota.... === marcus_ is now known as Guest26442 === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOW === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away === MooDoo is now known as Guest29504 [20:49] yay i have internet again [20:50] again again!? [20:51] well it broke and they took ages to fix [20:51] :( [20:51] O_O [20:55] had it ainstalled 13th october worked for a week then stopped [20:57] who is your isp? [20:58] u-mee [20:58] not in the uk anymore;p [20:59] never heard of it [21:02] yea [21:02] because its not uk [21:02] :P [21:02] u-mee.com [21:05] ahh argentina ;) [21:09] nopep [21:10] gibraltar [21:16] quiet channel for so many people here [21:16] it's Friday night. [21:16] was just pondering going to the pub, myself [21:17] back in the day nerds and geeks didnt go out at all :) [21:17] they left that to the cool kids [21:33] mapps: so what's new? [21:35] I am using an acer i5-m450 laptop. If I used a Dual core 1.6Ghz desktop, both with 4Gb ram, would i notice a major speed difference? (good or bad) [21:37] well "1.6GHz desktop" doesn't mean much compared to a first gen i5, since we don't know what generation of processor it is [21:38] and these days if one is using a hard disk and one is using an ssd? [21:39] i have no idea what gen it is, all I know is Intel dual core 1.6GHz.... I was offered a desktop, but have not seen it. It currently has windows 7 on it, I would imagine it is fairly old [21:39] yeah that'd be no comparison too :) [21:39] not much daftykins;) [21:39] same job same place [21:39] :) [21:39] both would use hard disk, neither has ssd [21:39] Renfried: would need a quick spec check then really. [21:39] Renfried would be enough for xubuntu [21:39] Renfried: it coming into your hands for free? [21:40] cheap.... about £50. for free I would just take it and try it :) [21:40] to be honest something with that clock speed in a desktop is a slight oddity [21:41] I am using mate, so would need to run that, otherwise it wont get used [21:41] so a small alarm bell is ringing to me [21:41] whats wrong with the clock speed? [21:42] it's an indication of age [21:43] what i'm getting at is if it's a 1.6GHz Pentium 4 someone has windows 7 on, i'd leave it where it is :) [21:44] yeah i would too. [21:45] but a dual core 1.6 is the recommended specs for mate [21:46] but just wondering if it would be that much slower than my i5.....my clock speed is 1.8 with 2.4 in burst mode [21:46] but being a P4 (just as an example, i know it's a guess) would hint at really terrible RAM and an old PATA slow disk [21:46] so you'd need more detail to make an informed decision [21:50] it has everything but speakers, so may even be worth it for a cheap monitor and spare parts [21:51] perhaps, though spare parts not even compatible with what you have now if they're too far apart age wise [21:52] if it's something easy like a Dell, you could look up the service tag for a detailed spec [21:52] or just query the BIOS. [21:52] i wouldn't touch anything that's not i5 quad core or above [21:54] I want to stick away from intel intergrated graphics, as the one on this laptop is terrible. [21:55] ali1234: Depends on what you use it for I suppose. I would love a new laptop but funds are not there. So a cheap desktop that I can upgrade bit by bit may be the way to go [21:55] no you want intel graphics on a laptop. dual graphics set ups are a pain [21:56] you can get a decent thinkpad for around £100 if you shop around [21:57] the only game i want to play it cities skylines, but doesnt support intel graphics. [21:57] dont buy a laptop for gaming [21:57] define decent [21:57] http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-x220-Laptop-Core-i5-2520-4Gb-160GB-USB-3-0-Webcam-/321901360957?hash=item4af2d0f73d:g:CxgAAOSwl9BWKqMl [21:59] thats not a bad option, although one dealbreaker, no numeric keypad... [21:59] use numlock [22:00] U sed to have a thinkpad t42, and hated numlock [22:00] no there's nothing wrong with intel graphics, it's just the age of your current system [22:01] my laptop is only about 3-4 years old [22:01] cities skylines is known to not work on intel tho [22:01] the first gen core i5 one? it's rubbish. [22:01] (the graphics) [22:01] i think it as Intel HD3000 graphics [22:04] i thought you said you had a core i5 450M [22:04] http://ark.intel.com/products/49022/Intel-Core-i5-450M-Processor-3M-cache-2_40-GHz [22:05] first gen HD graphics = terribad :) [22:09] am sure it is core i5 450M, it is an acer aspire 5742 laptop [22:14] says i5 m450 when i check [22:14] cant get it to name the hd3000, cat remember how i did it before, just saying intergated graphics [22:15] Hi, I'm looking to get my hands on a 14.04 LTS pressed dvd, but having some difficulty. [22:16] Renfried: are you typing from it right now? [22:16] Renfried: grep model /proc/cpuinfo [22:16] Ildera: how come you need one? [22:18] It's for my 92 year old grandmother, I really don't want to have to explain to her how to install from a usb stick, and pressed discs have a longer lifespan than burnt ones. [22:22] I do realise it's rather a 1995 sort of problem, but this is what happens when you're 92 === Myrtti is now known as DoloresUmbridge [22:23] daftykins: yes Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU M 450 @ 2.40GHz [22:24] yep so rubbish graphics [22:24] i'd not ask more than a working desktop of that generation [22:25] can anyone confirm you need a sky subscription card to make use of recording on a sky+ box? [22:26] thus be paying the evil company some money? :) [22:26] my folks are thinking of buying a box from someone but i think it's a mistake as they won't be able to record for free. [22:29] i am sure you do need a sky+ subscription to record [22:30] you can use it a freesat box without, just not record, best to buy a freeview dvr [22:31] *nod* thought the same, thanks :) [22:31] probably best they get a freesat HD box, not sure we can get it down here mind [22:31] where are you? [22:32] Channel Islands [22:33] if you can get normal TV reception you should be able to get freeview, just not sure about HD [22:34] teach them how to torrent :) [22:34] hell to the no! [22:34] well freesat is via the satellite dish, but the cone of influence from the beam tends to ignore us for most channels [22:35] actually i think a mate said they can get all the channels on freesat and i got a tonne when i tried it out on my TV (which has freesat built in) [22:35] they're never gonna pay for a box though [22:36] i have BB with sky, not bad fibre connection 40Mb down and 10Mb up [22:37] we have our own telcos with monopolies down here [22:37] still 40/5 VDSL2 though \o/ [22:37] btw that's VDSL2 as well, not fibre :) just marketed as such to sound futuristic [22:38] i could go 200Mb with virgin, but they throttle [22:40] they class it as fibre to the cabinet (FTTC) but yeah, all openreach is the same, [22:42] for someone who started with a 2400 baud modem, call it what you will, as long as it is 40/10 i am happy [22:42] :) [22:42] yeah does me well [22:42] a local secondary telco has just installed a direct fiber feed to their managing director's home, lucky swine [22:43] i started with a 2400 baud modem but spent most of the 90s using it in bell 103 mode at 300bps... [22:47] i then went to a suprafax 14.4k, then a mightly udrobotics 56k.....1.5KB download speed, could download a full amiga 700k disk in 30 minutes.....lightning fast [22:47] *usrobotics [22:48] i could upgrade my fibre to 80 down and 20 up, but no need. never needed more than i have [22:48] back shortly, gonna grab a pint next door i think [22:51] and file transfer protocol was just moving away from kermit to xmodem... [22:55] then xmodem (crc) for error checking, ymodem for multiple files and then the holy grail of zmodem for resuming after interrupted file transfers :-) [23:09] back on dialup I used getright a LOT [23:09] and it seems to still exist: http://getright.com/ [23:09] with a terrible website :-p [23:15] very 90s... [23:37] i used z and ymodem from memory [23:38] i thought i'd use ymodem more when i discovered it could transfer a bunch of files but by then i was already using pak and then pkzip to compress all the files into one small file [23:39] i still have my usrobotics modem somewhere.... i am sure dialup isps must exist somewhere still... [23:40] i have a battery powered 9600 baud fax modem here i couldn't bring myself to throw out... :-) [23:41] I also have a commodore 64 with the 1571 diskdrive that sounds like a couple of woodpeckers mating when you loaded something [23:42] or was it 1541.... cant remember [23:43] and an amiga 500. havnt used them in 20 years, but still have them [23:43] i still remember poke 808,251 for c64 to disable run stop... :-) [23:43] 10 Print "Hello World" [23:43] 20 GOTO 10 [23:44] and in a local shop the c64 power button was blocked by the counter it was sunk into so they couldn't stop the scolling message [23:44] but in out case it was 10 print "wardy is a leper "; [23:45] poor sod had terminal acne [23:48] lol