| flocculant | probably why things like pareole break for me - I have no cares :p | 00:52 |
|---|---|---|
| drc | No, it's becasue apps don't like you..hence perfect QAL. | 00:53 |
| flocculant | \o/ | 00:53 |
| flocculant | I knew I would WIN | 00:54 |
| drc | 8 or 10? | 00:54 |
| knome | 9. | 00:54 |
| flocculant | 7 | 00:54 |
| flocculant | always 7 | 00:54 |
| drc | as long as it's not 98ME | 00:54 |
| flocculant | ha ha | 00:55 |
| knome | 6 was my favorite number before but now i don't care | 00:55 |
| flocculant | always 7 | 00:57 |
| knome | bluesabre, you should really join #ubuntu-quality | 00:59 |
| knome | bluesabre, otherwise me and flocculant start telling you silly things we don't understand, and with our little "manipulation", nor won't you | 00:59 |
| flocculant | \o/ | 01:00 |
| flocculant | you CAN apparently make ubuntu-bug work with PPAs | 01:01 |
| flocculant | knome: like that? | 01:01 |
| knome | heh, well, maybe... | 01:01 |
| flocculant | :) | 01:02 |
| bluesabre | suppose I'll join then | 01:22 |
| bluesabre | I wonder if I might regret this | 01:22 |
| bluesabre | :D | 01:22 |
| flocculant | bluesabre: I promise not to too often link youir quote :D | 01:25 |
| bluesabre | which one? | 01:27 |
| bluesabre | the "give us all your bug reports" one | 01:28 |
| bluesabre | ? | 01:28 |
| bluesabre | :D | 01:28 |
| flocculant | nope | 01:29 |
| flocculant | the "we want all your usabilty issues as bugs one | 01:30 |
| flocculant | which I make up from 2 ro 3 different quotes | 01:30 |
| * flocculant should run for office .... | 01:30 | |
| knome | yes | 01:31 |
| knome | the bad typing dept. | 01:31 |
| bluesabre | :) | 01:31 |
| flocculant | would I win? | 01:31 |
| flocculant | silly flocculant | 01:32 |
| flocculant | ofc you would :P | 01:32 |
| drc | It's unanimous | 01:32 |
| bluesabre | +1 | 01:32 |
| flocculant | woot I win then | 01:33 |
| drc | <flocculant> I knew I would WIN | 01:33 |
| drc | egotist | 01:33 |
| drc | and with that, I concede and "goodbye" | 01:34 |
| flocculant | I would like to take this opportunityy to win things for drc - we are all equal, or old or stuff | 01:34 |
| flocculant | o | 01:34 |
| * bluesabre forgets that his youth escapes a bit more each day | 01:35 | |
| flocculant | he missed winning :( | 01:35 |
| flocculant | bluesabre shouldn't do that | 01:35 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Soon you'll be a cranky old man like the rest of us. | 01:36 |
| knome | or, with some exact surgery, cranky old lady | 01:36 |
| bluesabre | :D | 01:36 |
| flocculant | ha ha | 01:37 |
| akxwi_dave | flocculant, I retried the window snapping last night on real hardware (fresh install) and its working as is.. On my old vm it isnt, however, i have just built a fresh Xneial VM from the 1st iso release and snapping is working fine. So I'll assume that there is something wrong with my original VM. | 09:04 |
| akxwi_dave | oh and Morning by the way.. :-) | 09:05 |
| Unit193 | Howdy. | 09:11 |
| bluesabre | morning all | 10:52 |
| akxwi_dave | Morning | 11:06 |
| drc | OK, Before I dive back into flocculant's "Xfce4 Power Manager Settings" Testcase, I'd like to clear up a little confusion I'm having re: Power Manager plugins. | 11:46 |
| drc | It appears that there is a Power Manager plugin that is installed in the panel by default and is independent of either the Notification Area or Indicator Plugin. | 11:47 |
| drc | It also appears that there is a Notification Area Power Manager Indicator/plugin that is activated via the XFCE Power Manager Settings/General Tab (System tray icon) | 11:49 |
| drc | Both these do the same thing, abeit is slightly different fashions. Am I correct so far? | 11:50 |
| drc | And that the Power Manager plugin is now monochromatic while the "System Tray icon (maybe not the best working, not sure we have a system tray now) is colorized. | 11:53 |
| drc | SO my question is: Is this by design, we really want both of these? | 11:54 |
| drc | After thinking for a bit, I wonder if this results from folks wanting the old "Indicator Plugin" battery indicator? | 11:55 |
| Unit193 | Right, so one is an xfce4-panel plugin, one is a tray icon, for say tint2. The panel plugin should have more features, or generally be slightly better than the plain tray icon. | 11:59 |
| drc | Unit193: From what I see, they do the same thing, except one uses a right click and one uses a left click. | 12:00 |
| drc | Hey flocculant, quick question on "Xfce4 Power Manager Settings" Testcase. Why was Display-> Brightness reduction not tested? | 12:38 |
| drc | Other than some (still) wording on the testcase itself, everything work as advertised. | 12:40 |
| drc | Submitted a "Pass". But what do you want in the Hardware profile? I <can> use a inxi -F :) | 12:41 |
| slickymasterWork | or you can go to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Hardware drc | 12:58 |
| slickymasterWork | and then just add the gist github link | 12:59 |
| drc | reading now | 13:01 |
| Unit193 | ...That is a horrible page. | 13:04 |
| slickymasterWork | that's what I use whenever I need to add my hardware profile either on the tracker or LP | 13:04 |
| slickymasterWork | yes, it is | 13:04 |
| akxwi_dave | thats one o fthe reasons i typr mine in the comments.. :-) | 13:06 |
| drc | OK, pretty straight forward until it comes time to "edit the top table only" How would one go about doing this? I see nothing that would let me edit it. | 13:10 |
| * drc wonders if he'd get away with just saying "Apple ][" ? | 13:14 | |
| akxwi_dave | dare you... :-) | 13:16 |
| drc | To misquote Red Skelton "He don't know me very well, do he?" | 13:17 |
| flocculant | good day everyone | 13:29 |
| flocculant | installs are still fubar with the mtab thing I see :) | 13:30 |
| flocculant | off shortly and will be back Sunday :) | 13:30 |
| akxwi_dave | going anywhere nice? | 13:35 |
| flocculant | god-daughter and her family - Brighton | 13:44 |
| flocculant | have a good weekend | 13:52 |
| akxwi_dave | enjoy flocculant, have a good time.. | 14:07 |
| slickymasterWork | drc, you're not obliged to add yourself to that table | 14:30 |
| drc | I know, I was just wondering if I was missing something obvious. | 14:31 |
| slickymasterWork | all you need is the gist github link itself, since it's where your hardware specs are listed | 14:31 |
| slickymasterWork | did you login successfully in the wiki? | 14:32 |
| drc | My guess is no. | 14:32 |
| slickymasterWork | so that's probably why you weren't able to edit it :P | 14:33 |
| slickymasterWork | tbh the wiki is a pain, anyhow | 14:33 |
| drc | Like I said, something obvious :) | 14:33 |
| slickymasterWork | :) | 14:34 |
| drc | All I really care about is "what do they want me to put in the "hardware profile" of the test cases" If Dell 1420n is enough, I'm good. | 14:34 |
| * slickymasterWork doesn't have a clear answer to that | 14:36 | |
| slickymasterWork | ballons would be the one | 14:36 |
| slickymasterWork | * balloons | 14:36 |
| drc | I may just go with that Apple ][ ... see how long it takes someone to ask "Really?" | 14:37 |
| slickymasterWork | lol | 14:38 |
| drc | Silly Ubuntu One/wiki/whatever logins...running in circles | 14:39 |
| drc | That's why I gave it up years ago :( | 14:39 |
| drc | It seems like it's more about the infrastructure itself than what you do with it | 14:40 |
| slickymasterWork | yeah it's really annoying | 14:40 |
| drc | BAH! Apple ][ it is :) | 14:41 |
| akxwi_dave | ;-) | 14:47 |
| drc | hey akxwi_dave ... and congrats on becoming a "made man" :) | 14:48 |
| akxwi_dave | drc, cheers mate | 14:50 |
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| knome | slickymasterWork, at least you around? | 16:49 |
| slickymasterWork | yes, I am | 16:49 |
| slickymasterWork | why | 16:49 |
| slickymasterWork | ? | 16:49 |
| knome | hah | 16:49 |
| knome | "whyyyyy" | 16:49 |
| knome | i was thinking setting up the contributor docs | 16:50 |
| knome | what's your take on this: | 16:50 |
| slickymasterWork | I saw you add it to the blueprint | 16:50 |
| knome | should we add it to the same repository or create a new one? | 16:50 |
| slickymasterWork | I'd go with a new one | 16:50 |
| knome | right | 16:50 |
| slickymasterWork | just a matter of organization, keeping things tidy | 16:51 |
| knome | i'll register a new project in lp for that then as well | 16:51 |
| knome | xubuntu-contributor-docs ? | 16:51 |
| knome | (obviously we can always change that..) | 16:51 |
| slickymasterWork | yes, that's about what I'd call it | 16:51 |
| knome | ok | 16:51 |
| knome | i'll make some room on the kitchen table and start working on it next then | 16:51 |
| slickymasterWork | btw knome, the "HowTo build docs locally" | 16:51 |
| knome | the what? :) | 16:52 |
| slickymasterWork | can I draft it right on the website or do you want me to do it in a pad? | 16:52 |
| knome | sudo apt-get build-dep && make | 16:52 |
| knome | works in wily... | 16:52 |
| slickymasterWork | not that you silly you | 16:52 |
| knome | :D | 16:52 |
| knome | that's building docs... locally | 16:52 |
| slickymasterWork | the tutorial I'm writting on how to do it | 16:53 |
| slickymasterWork | it's an item in the blueprint | 16:53 |
| knome | i'm wondering if we need a tutorial | 16:53 |
| slickymasterWork | silly nilly | 16:53 |
| knome | :D | 16:53 |
| knome | am i missing something here? | 16:53 |
| knome | the tutorial is this: | 16:53 |
| knome | 1) sudo apt-get install bzr | 16:53 |
| slickymasterWork | well flocculant mentioned it, the need for it, and I do see that there's a need | 16:53 |
| knome | 2) bzr branch lp:xubuntu-docs | 16:54 |
| slickymasterWork | I know that knome | 16:54 |
| knome | 3) sudo apt-get build-dep xubuntu-docs | 16:54 |
| slickymasterWork | lol | 16:54 |
| slickymasterWork | stop | 16:54 |
| knome | :D | 16:54 |
| knome | let's just add that to the contributor docs :P | 16:54 |
| slickymasterWork | chances are that we may have a lot of potential contributors that just don't know | 16:54 |
| knome | yes | 16:54 |
| slickymasterWork | either way works for me | 16:55 |
| knome | well i'm not opposed to a blog article either | 16:55 |
| knome | i guess just write it up in the blog | 16:55 |
| knome | unless you decide to go deeper in the docbook land | 16:55 |
| slickymasterWork | oki doke | 16:55 |
| slickymasterWork | one thing I remembered that afterwards will have to go on the contributor-docs is this https://smdavis.us/doku/doku.php?id=playground:sceenshot-stds | 16:56 |
| slickymasterWork | jjfrv8, ochosi and I kind of settle that'd be the standard | 16:56 |
| knome | slickymasterWork, i guess that's debatable, but at least we can link to it :) | 16:58 |
| slickymasterWork | of course it is, bit it's one standard at least | 16:58 |
| knome | one con to the seprate repositories is that then it isn't as easy to share the same stylesheet | 16:58 |
| knome | or at least we need to update both repositories with that when doing updates | 16:58 |
| slickymasterWork | well, that focus mainly in the wiki-type of documentation | 16:59 |
| knome | still | 16:59 |
| knome | we want it to look the same as the end-user docs | 16:59 |
| knome | with some changes, sure | 16:59 |
| slickymasterWork | no argues there | 16:59 |
| knome | but mostly the same | 16:59 |
| slickymasterWork | but we have to take in consideration the weight of xfce in that particular solution/standard | 17:00 |
| knome | hmm? | 17:00 |
| slickymasterWork | and sean adopt it to his appps | 17:01 |
| slickymasterWork | hey so many 'ppp' | 17:01 |
| knome | oh, you're talking about something else than me | 17:01 |
| slickymasterWork | what are you talking about, then? | 17:01 |
| knome | 18:58 knome: one con to the seprate repositories is that then it isn't as easy to share the same stylesheet | 17:02 |
| knome | so basically, we have an established stylesheet (and a somewhat matching PDF style layer) | 17:02 |
| knome | if we do a separate repository, it isn't as easy to use the exact same files for this | 17:02 |
| slickymasterWork | oh, yes | 17:03 |
| knome | or at least it means that if we make changes, we need to push them to two repositories | 17:03 |
| slickymasterWork | yes, I agree with that reasoning | 17:03 |
| knome | also, if we want to mention the contributor docs from the docs startpage, the easiest way is that they exist in the same repository/package | 17:03 |
| knome | of course, it would have its own subdirectory | 17:03 |
| slickymasterWork | I wasn't at all go against it | 17:04 |
| knome | and all of it would be separated fromt he main docs | 17:04 |
| knome | so i guess i'll do that - at least for now | 17:04 |
| knome | it's relatively easily splittable too | 17:04 |
| slickymasterWork | I was just merely considering that we should somehow reference that standard in there some way | 17:04 |
| knome | yeah, that's a totally different discussion :P | 17:05 |
| slickymasterWork | yeaps | 17:05 |
| slickymasterWork | the goal is to also try to catch some contributors to the xfce documentation | 17:05 |
| knome | can be | 17:05 |
| slickymasterWork | on a different topic, I've been going through flocculant's -docs MP and I must say that other than a few minor wording changes it seems great | 17:06 |
| knome | :) | 17:07 |
| slickymasterWork | he has done a great, and thorough, work on it | 17:07 |
| knome | mhm | 17:18 |
| ochosi | my two cents are that we don't necessarily have to follow the style of the xfce docs | 17:29 |
| knome | ochosi, no, i'm about to follow the style of xubuntu docs | 17:29 |
| ochosi | the faenza icon theme is not an ideal choic there since its not maintained for yeras | 17:29 |
| ochosi | (just as an example) | 17:30 |
| knome | ssh, i need silence for working | 17:30 |
| knome | i'm just breaking all the docs and i want to do it well | 17:30 |
| slickymasterWork | hey ochosi | 17:30 |
| * ochosi sneaksout | 17:31 | |
| ochosi | hehe | 17:31 |
| slickymasterWork | I wasn't implying we should follow that style ochosi, just saying that we should somehow link some sort of reference to yet another side/aspect of -docs contribution | 17:32 |
| ochosi | hey slickymasterWork | 17:33 |
| ochosi | sorry very slow internet on this train... | 17:33 |
| slickymasterWork | :) | 17:33 |
| ochosi | and yeah, to that i agree | 17:33 |
| knome | bbl | 18:20 |
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| knome | ooookay, https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-doc/xubuntu-docs/xenial | 20:44 |
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| dkessel | bluesabre: i need some translator hints for catfish :p | 20:58 |
| dkessel | strings 25 and 27: in which context are "other" and "any" used? | 20:59 |
| dkessel | only those two string to do in german now :p | 21:00 |
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| ochosi | dkessel: checking... | 21:13 |
| ochosi | dkessel: "other" is part of the file type filters | 21:14 |
| knome | ochosi, now you can start writing documentation for contributors :P | 21:15 |
| ochosi | as in: documents, folders, images, music, videos,..., other | 21:15 |
| ochosi | knome: doc for contributors in what sense? | 21:15 |
| knome | ochosi, like developer docs | 21:16 |
| ochosi | dkessel: so "any" is the same in terms of the date range | 21:16 |
| knome | ochosi, "how to contribute with artwork" | 21:16 |
| dkessel | File filters... where do i have to click? :? | 21:16 |
| ochosi | dkessel: those are in the sidebar | 21:16 |
| dkessel | ah. strange enough, those are both translated in my version here... although on launchpad they aren't | 21:17 |
| ochosi | dkessel: here's the context for "other" http://i.imgur.com/FGg6NhX.png | 21:17 |
| dkessel | thanks ochosi | 21:17 |
| ochosi | no worries | 21:17 |
| ochosi | grep is your friend ;) | 21:17 |
| ochosi | (in case you run into such a problem again) | 21:17 |
| ochosi | or you can also check the "Located in.." hint on the launchpad translation site :D | 21:18 |
| ochosi | knome: yeah, i guess that'd be a nice effort, but why the "now"? | 21:19 |
| knome | ochosi, i just set up the infrastructure for that, we now have a new docbook book in the -docs branch | 21:20 |
| ochosi | oh ok | 21:20 |
| ochosi | cool | 21:20 |
| ochosi | well that would be a nice target for 16.04 | 21:20 |
| knome | ochosi, ultimately, we can ship that with all releases and have it in docs.xubuntu.org | 21:20 |
| ochosi | then again, are you sure ppl will read docs like that? | 21:20 |
| knome | no, but then again, i'm not going to put a huge effort on them | 21:21 |
| knome | i mean, we should document our processes as we have done now | 21:21 |
| knome | and if we can extend that to some of the technical issues, that's good | 21:21 |
| knome | it's as much a guide to us as to new contributors | 21:21 |
| knome | at least that's how i imagine it... | 21:22 |
| ochosi | yeah, that makes sense | 21:25 |
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| knome | slickymaster, see above | 22:04 |
| slickymaster | doing it already | 22:05 |
| slickymaster | :) | 22:05 |
| slickymaster | knome, "The Xubuntu status tracker is where the development progress for the current development cycle is tracked and is located at." | 22:07 |
| slickymaster | isn't there an extra 'is' between 'tracked and' 'located' | 22:08 |
| slickymaster | what about "The Xubuntu status tracker is where the development progress for the current development cycle is tracked and located at | 22:08 |
| knome | no, the link tag was faulty and the link didn't show up | 22:09 |
| knome | i pushed a new revision now | 22:09 |
| knome | happy that you are happy that we can actually work on this now ;P | 22:10 |
| slickymaster | lol | 22:10 |
| slickymaster | are you referring to rev. 465 | 22:10 |
| knome | ^ | 22:11 |
| slickymaster | yeah, lag | 22:11 |
| slickymaster | the sentence remains the same knome | 22:11 |
| knome | well, you can fix it yourself... | 22:12 |
| slickymaster | lol | 22:12 |
| slickymaster | don't want to do it if you do not agree with it | 22:13 |
| knome | no, i just wanted to set some initial content up | 22:13 |
| slickymaster | branching it anyway | 22:13 |
| knome | this is by no means final, or well-thought | 22:13 |
| slickymaster | ok | 22:13 |
| slickymaster | it will also serves the purpose of seeing it in the browser | 22:14 |
| slickymaster | * serve | 22:14 |
| slickymaster | knome, the license file is a clone from the one in the -docs? | 22:21 |
| knome | slickymaster, yes | 22:22 |
| slickymaster | thanks, it saves the effort of reading it | 22:23 |
| knome | heh | 22:23 |
| slickymaster | another quetsion knome, are you thinking in having the common-infrastructure bzr centric? | 22:24 |
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| knome | no, but for anything that is common for several subtopics | 22:25 |
| slickymaster | yes, agree | 22:26 |
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