=== Uptime is now known as skullgreymon === skullgreymon is now known as SkullGreymon [00:41] Hello! I just installed 15.10 but I just see a black screen. In xorg logs I see “Failed to load module nvidia” (module does not exist)” and “NOUVEAU: failed to initialize extension”. Any idea what I can do? [00:44] nouveau :((( [00:45] can you change tty? [00:47] zsc_38: yes [00:48] zsc_38: that is how I read the log [00:48] zsc_38: but actually, I see the mouse pointer properly [00:48] zsc_38: it was just in the corner [00:49] zsc_38: what is wrong with nouveau? Isn’t the one I need? I have nvidia. [00:50] well, I have a 780ti and I just did a fresh install of 15.10 earlier today. I had similar issues but not the same [00:50] what gpu do you have? [00:51] GT 740M [00:52] well, I went with nvidia-352 and it appears to be working ok so far - apart from plasma-panel taking about a minute to work [00:52] zsc_38: I had issues with dual monitors with the binary. But some time has passed, I should give another try… [00:53] zsc_38: but if I see the pointer… [00:53] I also have dual monitors and so far so good [00:53] but as I said, I only have it installed a few hours [00:53] zsc_38: ah ah! It works now. [00:54] good, I'm not sure which is best to use at the moment myself but that one works for now :) [00:55] are there any issue with plasma-panel? [00:55] zsc_38: I’ve always been working with nouveau… no specific problems. [00:56] wait, you are still using nouveau?!? [00:56] zsc_38: yes, simply reboot three times. [00:57] zsc_38: now everything is fine [00:57] lol [00:57] zsc_38: weird [00:57] zsc_38: now every reboot is ok [00:57] hmmmk [00:57] zsc_38: maybe some problems while creating conf files, don’t know [00:57] I get very slow login and plasma-panel is unresponsive for about a minute. very annoying [00:58] UEFI and SSD wasted :( [00:58] zsc_38: everything ok with nouveau [00:58] zsc_38: also performance pretty good for me [00:59] zsc_38: ooh… also audio ok now… 15.04 was a little broken [01:01] nouveau was so bad for me in 15.04 I will never use it again. also, looking at benchmarks it has abyssmal performance in comparison [01:02] but hey, if it works for ya it works :) [01:03] zsc_38: actually I use this for work. Desktop effects are all I need. Framerate was good, even in dual screen. [01:03] ooh even headphones ok [01:04] ha, I try to do the same but I do need to check out some of my steam games on linux occasionally [01:04] i haven't even tried sound yet o_O [01:04] booted it up, sorted the gfx driver and ssh'd in [01:05] after checking out the new plasma in all its glory [01:08] zsc_38: yes yes… this is moving right on… even plasma is getting better [01:08] fixed many little bugs for me [01:09] actually not so little… 2015 I would expect 4K screens, not audio not working properly but… seems good === Metacity is now known as Metacreepy [01:51] Hey guys,, [01:51] Does kubuntu multimedia codec and all? [01:51] ship* [01:51] with* [01:53] You could install kubuntu-restricted-extras, or applications like Google Chrome or VLC that might bundle the codecs, but I think the generals answer is no, not by default. === Metacreepy is now known as you-cannot-be-se === you-cannot-be-se is now known as seriously === seriously is now known as Metacreepy [02:33] . [02:34] yo, is there any way to enable ctrl+alt+backspace to kill x or logout? [03:20] Hey there, I have just upgraded to 15.10 and now KDE is complaining about 0% battery in systray and login screen. This is a desktop: i have no battery. Is there a way to get rid of this? [03:21] not sure, I use desktop and it works fine [03:22] will you borrow me your desktop? :) [03:22] lol [03:22] and how can u bootup if its at 0% battery? [03:23] easy: it doesn't have a battery at all [03:23] ur using a desktop? [03:23] yes, as i said [03:23] well I did a plain install to 15.10 [03:24] and I just started using kubuntu today, so I probley wont be of much help [03:24] :) ty anyway [03:24] ok, np [03:28] alex, any problems with plasma? [03:29] not really just problems with grub [03:29] and windows, but ##windows just says ask a ubuntu channel, and ubuntu says ask ##windows.... so yah [03:29] i get random panel crashes and can't figure it, hence my zapping question... no panel to logout [03:30] what's the issue? [03:30] i'm just using kwin_x11 --replace for now :/ [03:31] well i have 2 hard drives, and I want grub on my 2nd hard drive only but its on my first, where windows is, I dont want grub to have a windows selection, I want it to auto boot windows, and I install grub on 2nd hard drive [03:31] does kwin have a selection menu? [03:31] i'm not sure what you mean [03:31] wait [03:31] nevermind [03:32] ? [03:32] kwin is part of kde desktop.... we are getting crossed wires [03:32] ok [03:32] i am also dual booting with windows 10 onseparate ssds [03:32] is there a way to delete grub from sda [03:32] and just keep grub on /dev/sdb [03:33] so you have grub and windows on sda and kubuntu on sdbat the moment? [03:34] yes kubuntu on sdb [03:34] which windows version? [03:34] win7x64Ultimate [03:34] ah good [03:34] how did you install it and do you still have the boot media - usb/dvd? [03:35] windows that is [03:35] i have a usb [03:35] well im downloading a iso [03:35] right now for it [03:36] ok, so you haven't actually been able to try anything yet [03:37] well [03:37] i installed it using yumi before but this last time it didnt work [03:37] so ill try it again [03:38] unless theres a program u can use on kubuntu thats allows u to install windows to a usb [03:40] are u still here? [03:41] i have only ever done it with windows media [03:41] so, burn a disk or create bootable usb in windows [03:41] i don't know of a program to create mbr on linux [03:42] yumi works, on windows [03:42] and I can bootup windows but the last time it didnt work [03:42] the previous time before that it worked flawless [03:42] ill try it again i guess [03:43] well, today i learned :) [03:44] so you can create bootable windows media with yumi in lunux? [03:45] idk [03:45] if there is yumi for linux [03:45] and if it works or not [03:46] you could try winusb - http://askubuntu.com/questions/289559/how-can-i-create-a-windows-bootable-usb-stick-with-ubuntu [03:47] i can't vouch for it, however [03:47] then there is the manual method, but I have never tried that [03:51] how do i make it so, my kubuntu wont sleep and I can let something download overnight? [03:52] energy saving from the kmenu [03:52] ok [03:53] just uncheck everything? [03:53] that has time? [03:53] yup [03:53] ok [03:54] exactly, yeah [03:54] well cuz im downloading the iso from getintopc [03:54] and its only downloading at like 0-2mb/s [03:54] and usally right below 1mb/s [03:54] download it from microsoft? [03:54] and is taking a while [03:54] oh... [03:54] well [03:54] too late now [03:54] its like 75% done [03:55] ah [03:55] well bye === blue_ is now known as refactorial === WalterN is now known as tiwake === sunil_ is now known as spawn57 [06:27] Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 15.10, this is my first time ever installing it, I just came from Windows. [06:29] I connected to the wifi and the Firefox browser opens, but I'm not able to enter in sites. Any suggestions? [06:31] I'm a total noob, please help! [07:05] Hi all [07:06] everytime I try and add an external monitor via the kubuntu display settings it seems to cause a crash of the plasma desktop and sends me back to the login [07:06] where should I look for some hints of what the problem is? [07:17] JohnnySparkles: run KSystemLog and look into the X servr log [07:22] I'm not seeing any errors in there. [07:22] The only interesting thing I'm seeing is HDMI-1-0 has no monitor section [07:23] HDMI-1-0 is the monitor I'm trying to add. Should it have a reference in the xorg.conf? I thought that was what the display settings would do [07:26] system settings -> display settings should set it up for u [07:27] yeah, and when I enable it in display settings and click 'apply' I get a black screen and then end up back at the kubuntu login prompt... [07:28] And I'm having trouble finding information on why it crashed so I can google it [07:31] JohnnySparkles the web suggest check the output of "xrandr" [07:32] ah, ok. just xrandr on the command line? Can you post a link? [07:33] yes cmd line might have to install it dunno http://askubuntu.com/questions/3056/how-do-i-use-a-second-hdmi-connected-monitor | generally everything that applyes to ubuntu applyes to kubuntu as well === samuel is now known as Guest15623 [07:38] JohnnySparkles: back from login screen ? [07:39] no, back from internet outage :) [07:39] but at least now I can read about xrandr. [07:39] man is your friend :-) [07:44] JohnnySparkles: https://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Environment_Variables#Troubleshooting_and_Debugging has some debugging vars for kde and if it crashed there should be a entry in the system log [07:46] wow, I fixed it with my first go at throwing together an xrandr command! [07:46] Will this persist after a reboot or is this just for the current session? [07:47] look if it wrote it to the x config [07:47] the xorg.conf looks the same as it did before [07:48] then this will no pesist i think [07:48] *persist [07:48] ok, I think I've found something on google. [07:49] might think about filing a bug report for the display manager JohnnySparkles [07:50] I did a "sudo X :2 -configure" to generate a xorg.conf.new that looks substantially different, does that sound about right to you? [07:50] is there a monitor section for your two monitors in it ? [07:51] There's only one Monitor section and then a Screen section that has multiple inline displays [07:52] Heh, just realised I can stop squinting and chat to you on my big monitor :) [07:53] well i think its solved then isn it ? JohnnySparkles [07:53] I'm not sure what you mean [07:54] u can add the xrandr cmd to /etc/init.d/rc.local if replacing the xconfig doesnt persist it [07:55] which package should I file the bug report against? [07:56] kde has its own bug tracker let me see if i can give u a link [07:56] https://bugs.kde.org/ JohnnySparkles === viral is now known as Guest45259 [08:22] Good morning [09:05] Good morning === tim is now known as timinphx1 === juboxi is now known as jubo2 [10:50] Hi ! After updating my Kubuntu, plasma crashes when I'm closing/reducing a window, what can I do ? [11:09] Hi. Distribution upgrade stalled for 15+ minutes while configuring libsane-common. Can I restart upgrader? [11:26] Hiyas all === Steffstoff is now known as Guest95079 [12:16] does running maliit-server crash for anyone else under 15.10? === MisterHiyas is now known as benonsoftware [12:52] wtf why is opera 150 MB [12:53] oops nm === administrator is now known as Guest26183 [13:50] Trouble installing kubuntu 15.10 [13:52] Dideir, more details please [13:52] I got wrong when installing 15.04 then became worst with 15.10. I am trying to reinstall 15.10 from usb. System doesn't accept [13:53] I am trying another download from Wily Weewwolf [13:54] I did reinstall fron usb 14.04 working fine but kept 15.04 tried to update from 14.04 doesn't work [13:55] you need to do a clean install , 14.10 is no longer supported [13:55] Yes how [13:56] I can only use usb no cd on this machine [13:56] do you have separate / and /home partitions? [13:57] Don't know that far [14:00] Hey folks. I just got a hold of a new Thinkpad W541 and decided to stick a copy of Kubuntu on it. I was able to get 15.04 installed but im not sure of the recommended next steps... The performance is REALLY poor (im thinking i'll need to get some better graphics drivers installed). Whats the best approach here? [14:00] Dideir, perhaps you should join #ubuntu-es [14:01] hazamonzo, which gpu? [14:01] Usb works well since I did reinstall 14.04 but kept 15.10 distorted. Don't know if error from usb comes from wrong image or what is on Pc bother the installation [14:02] BluesKaj: Umm, let me quickly check (its a workstation so when i purchased it i was only interested in CPU and RAM :) ) [14:03] BluesKaj: All the specs. http://pastebin.com/ymdnyc97 [14:03] Looks like a ... W540 NVIDIA Quadro K2100M 2G ? [14:04] Dideir, using a translator doesn't help , join #ubuntu-es so you can speak in your language [14:04] BluesKaj: I remember each new laptop i get its a bit tricky with graphics installation [14:05] So any pointers would be appreciated :) [14:07] hazamonzo, open system settings>driver manager, choose the recommended one after it stops scanning [14:08] okay. i'll give it a shot just [14:13] BluesKaj: Im told the laptop requires no propietary drivers :( [14:15] hazamonzo, run this in the terminal, sudo lshw -C video [14:16] BluesKaj: Let me just jump onto IRC on the laptop in question so i can pastebin the output [14:19] BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/yUx1emJK [14:21] BluesKaj: I hope it means more to you than it does to me :) [14:21] hazamonzo_, the nouveau driver usually does the job, but the nvidia proprietary drivers do a better job if you have slow downs etc [14:22] BluesKaj: Yeah, the whole UI is very choppy and sluggish [14:23] the nvidia proprietary driver recommended is part of the kubuntu package [14:24] I upgraded to 15.10 and now my laptop boots to black screen. Any help? [14:24] Is it intended that the nouveau driver is blacklisted? hazamonzo, BluesKaj? [14:24] juki, from 14.10? [14:24] 15.04 BluesKaj [14:24] lordievader: Im sorry im not sure i follow you.. [14:25] hazamonzo: There is no driver loaded for your nVidia card. [14:25] upgraded to the 4.3 rc7 kernel last night... supposedly it has better display support, but still no luck BluesKaj [14:25] ahhh i see. It might explain the crazy lag :) [14:25] hazamonzo: Yeah, you are using the framebuffer. Is this intended? [14:26] lordievader, never had to blacklist the nouveau manually, it's automatic when the proprietary is installed [14:26] New image 15.10 didn't work say: "missing parameter in configuration file.Keyword:path " Then [14:26] lordievader: Nothing is intended at the moment. This is just a fresh install on a new laptop [14:26] BluesKaj: That is what I am asking. Is that installed and fails to load or something? [14:26] "gfxboot.c32: not a COM·"R image [14:26] lordievader, no choppy sluggish response [14:27] didier: type "help" there [14:27] where? [14:27] hazamonzo, BluesKaj: Was/is the nvidia driver installed? [14:27] is that at grub on first boot didier? [14:27] "help" [14:27] help [14:28] help [14:28] lordievader: Not that im aware of [14:28] not here didier, where the error is [14:28] hazamonzo, run this, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use' , include the quotes [14:28] gfxboot.c32... type help there [14:28] BluesKaj: okay. One mo [14:29] ok. come back [14:31] BluesKaj: No output for that one [14:32] hazamonzo: What is the output of 'cat /proc/cmdline'? [14:33] lordievader: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.2.0-16-generic root=UUID=f4a8fb64-bf69-45fb-9b56-0aa092f751c2 ro nomodeset quiet splash vt.handoff=7 [14:34] hazamonzo_: Why is nomodeset set? [14:34] lordievader: I knew you were going to ask that. I set that option during the install to get the OS to install [14:35] Before that i was getting blac screen after the whole "try Kubuntu" [14:35] i read elsewhere that someone used this option to get the installation working and he was right, well... i got it installed at least [14:35] hazamonzo_: Right, that option prevents any driver from loading... [14:35] ahhh okay! [14:35] That is why you are using the frame buffer. [14:36] lordievader: So i borked the installation? :) [14:37] hazamonzo_: No. Remove the parameter and you should be fine. [14:37] lordievader: How might i go about removing that parameter? :) [14:38] hazamonzo_: Remove it from /etc/default/grub and run sudo update-grub2. [14:38] lordievader: Okay. one moment [14:41] lordievader: All done! Restart? [14:41] hmm, interesting lordievader what was the clue that indicated nouveau wasn't loading? [14:42] hazamonzo_: Yes. [14:42] Okay [14:42] BluesKaj: It is quite a common case. [14:42] BluesKaj: When a graphics driver doesn't load it is either blacklisting or nomodesetting. [14:43] display UNCLAIMED? [14:43] BluesKaj: Yes, no driver claimed it. [14:43] Also the missing bit about the driver ;) [14:44] so nomodeset unloads the driver and it runs on the framebuffer ? [14:44] No, nomodeset prevent the driver from loading at all. [14:44] prevents* [14:44] yeah , that was strange, missing driver [14:45] yeah unloads [14:46] No, it doesn't unload it. It is never loaded in the first place. [14:48] Its just restarting. Sitting on the "Kubuntu" logo and the laptop is working hard [14:48] Been like this for about 3 mins [14:48] Hmm... [14:48] What do you see when you hit esc? [14:49] lordievader: Esc doesn't remove the logo (as it usually would to see whats happening in the background i guess) [14:49] Almost like its frozen? [14:49] Hmm -.- [14:51] lordievader: Any other thoughts? :) [14:51] It should be supported by nouveau... Anyhow what you could do is boot up with the nomodeset, install the nvidia driver and reboot (without the nomodeset again). [14:52] lordievader: The binary from the NVidia website? Or from the repo? [14:52] From the repo. [14:52] okay [14:53] worth a shot [14:54] hazamonzo, never from the nvidia website. it may work for a while until a kernel upgrade comes along [14:54] Noted [14:55] but then you 'll have a broken sytem [14:55] Nah, you just need to recompile the driver against the new kernel. In short more manual work... [14:55] lordievader: Sorry to be a pain but how can i re-enable the nomodeset option from the grub? [14:56] 15.10 boots into black screen... if i drop to a tty and startx as su it logs into the desktop. any help? [14:56] lordievader, well, it's broken then you have to rescue it [14:57] juki, did you update and upgrade at the vt/tty? [14:57] hazamonzo: Press e in the menu then add it after the splash option. (Hold shift to get to the grub menu) [14:57] yeah, i probably did at some point to try and fix the no gui issue [14:57] BluesKaj: [15:00] juki, install the gpu driver if you know which one it is, trying a different kernel is too drastic [15:01] if i get to the desktop using su doesn't that mean the driver works? [15:01] BluesKaj: [15:01] su? [15:01] from a tty... if I sudo startx i can get to the desktop [15:02] don't use sudo startx , just startx [15:02] i also created a new user and tried to startx from that standard user but I still get a black screen [15:02] startx gives me a black screen.. same as when i regular boot [15:02] but I recommend rebooting after installing a driver [15:02] added nomodeset at grub... same issue [15:03] lordievader: Okay. I got back into the OS, the resoilution is pretty chunky now but th sluggish performance has disappeared [15:03] hazamonzo: Is a driver loaded? [15:03] nomodeset as already described prevents the gpu driver from loading [15:03] Shall i still go ahead with this NVidia driver install from the repo? [15:04] doesn't making it to the desktop as SU mean the driver is fine BluesKaj? [15:04] hazamonzo, try the driver manager in system settings [15:05] you don't use su , juki this isn't debian [15:05] it's from troubleshooting BluesKaj [15:05] hazamonzo: Could you answer my question? [15:05] for* [15:05] BluesKaj: Still no drivers needed in the driver scan :) [15:05] can't get to the desktop as a regular user, that's my issue [15:05] lordievader: Sorry im not sure how to check :( [15:06] hazamonzo: lspci -k |grep -A 3 VGA [15:06] but for testing i can sudo startx and get to the desktop, so this I assume is not a video driver issue [15:07] ok juki , nevermind , do what you want ...good luck ] [15:08] lordievader: http://pastebin.com/WCNUjp80 [15:09] hazamonzo_: Nope, no drivers. I'd install the nVidia one if I were you. [15:09] lordievader: Okay i'll give it a try [15:10] lordievader: Getting somewhere though. The resolution might be chunk as hell now but at least its fast :) [15:10] hazamonzo_, probly the nvidia-340 [15:11] BluesKaj: Okay. Just doing a apt-get update [15:11] give me a mo [15:12] hazamonzo_, the nvidia website will tell you which driver to use, just don't use their version [15:12] it was something in the /home partition BluesKaj. I just reinstalled and formatedd the /home this time and now the desktop loads [15:12] BluesKaj: Ahh okay. Let me have a look then :) [15:13] hazamonzo_, BluesKaj: Ain't 352 available? That is what the nVidia site gives me. [15:13] lordievader: 352 is in the repo yeah [15:14] just checking the website as BluesKaj recommended [15:14] i'm surprised that the driver magaer doesn't recommend one [15:14] manager [15:15] So would i be best to go for the 352 driver? [15:16] if nvidia recommends it, yes [15:17] BluesKaj: Looks like it [15:18] sudo apt install nvidia-352, or use the package manager [15:18] BluesKaj: Its installing :) [15:19] So im a little curious (while this driver installs), why might re-adding the nomodeset and booting back into the OS would the performance improve yet the UI become super chunky? [15:20] I was under the impression i would get the sluggish UI again by re-enabling the nomodeset [15:20] default resolution [15:21] BluesKaj: I checked the Display Configuration and im told its set to the 2880x1620 (im never to remember this new resolution....) [15:21] hazamonzo_: It might be it switched to the other graphics card.... [15:21] You are another lucky winner of hybrid system problems! [15:21] lordievader: Ha! I know right? My old laptop was the same :s [15:21] Now that I think about it, there was some extra package for it. [15:22] hmm, odd that nvidia-prime wasn't installed in that case [15:23] BluesKaj: I used to have an ATI card in my old desktop. Is there much argument between the better supported graphics cards in linux these days? [15:23] Im.... really not a graphics person [15:24] hazamonzo_, ati was well supported in linux until amd bought them , down hill ever since [15:24] So Nvidia all the way to be safe :) [15:25] * lordievader runs an ATI/AMD [15:25] I use a plasma tv as a monitor so graphics are important, altho a fancy expensive gpu isn't necessary [15:26] If i can get the second moniter at my office working i'll be happy :) [15:27] okay so the drivers are installed. You need some output before i restart? [15:27] Some sanity checking stuff. Not sure if you're interested [15:27] * hazamonzo_ has no idea what it means [15:29] Well just in case before i restart... http://pastebin.com/PNzzP7yd [15:31] this is my first with my new ssd. pretty snappy so far altho this being a dev OS there is some odd slow behaviour [15:31] day [15:31] back on 15.10 [15:32] Though problems with system fonts. they look broken any sugestions [15:32] BluesKaj: lordievader: Rebooted, saw the nicer Kubuntu logo, then a quick terminal login screen and now darkness... :s [15:33] hazamonzo: Autologin? [15:33] lordievader: Nope [15:34] Hmm, is nvidia-prime installed? [15:34] lordievader: I only installed nvidia-352. The final output was http://pastebin.com/PNzzP7yd [15:34] Yeah, I know. [15:34] It does mention prime [15:35] Ah, it does. Hmm... [15:35] BluesKaj? You know more about hybrid systems ;) [15:36] Well... CTRL+ALT+F1 and i can still get to a login at least :) [15:37] terminal login that is [15:38] Does it have to do with graphic options? [15:39] lordievader: Worth trying to boot with the nomodeset in grub again or? [15:40] hazamonzo: It might get you a desktop, but it won't get you a workable driver. [15:40] lordievader: ahh i see [15:40] Dang [15:40] It was all looking do promising too! :D [15:40] *so [15:42] hazamonzo, could ypu pastebin lspci please [15:42] is that possible? [15:43] BluesKaj: I'll do what i can. Might be a little harder as im restricted to a basic terminal at the moment. Adding nomodeset to try and get into the desktop again failed [15:43] BluesKaj: But give me a mo and even if i have to type the output manually i'll do it! :D [15:46] BluesKaj: Dang... thats a chunk of output. Was there anything in particular you were looking for? [15:49] hazamonzo, no to worry , I checked out your laptop, you have a discrete nvidia gpu , not a hybrid [15:49] not to [15:49] BluesKaj: That sounds about right [15:49] it makes things simpler to fix [15:49] There are two listed here [15:49] An Intel one and Nvidia one [15:49] Hurray! [15:50] then you have a hybrid, makes it more difficult, damn lenovo they have so many different versions of the same model [15:51] Ack. It does get a tad confusing [15:52] VGA COmpatible Controller: Nvidia Corp GK106GLM [Quadro k2100M] (rev 1) [15:52] hazamonzo, the intel is for low level computing , but when the graphics get busy the nvidia takes over. [15:52] VGA COmpatible Controller: Intel Corp 4th Gen integrated graphics (rev 6) [15:52] BluesKaj: Yeah I understand, same as my old asus laptop === gigabyte is now known as Guest99604 [15:53] ok do you have switcheroo installed? [15:53] BluesKaj: Probably not. Im not sure what that is [15:54] This is a vanilla install of kubuntu aside from the nvidea drivers we installed a moment ago [15:54] BluesKaj, hazamonzo: I see 2 gpu's http://pastebin.com/WCNUjp80 [15:57] BluesKaj: lordievader: I think maybe i should have gone for an older laptop :) [15:58] lordievader, yeah, I saw that afterwards [16:01] hazamonzo, there's a chance that the nvidis-352 may not work for some reason, remove it and install the nvidia-340, it's a slight regression, but it might work [16:01]