[00:06] <rom-> is there any program I can use to snap my desktop
[00:07] <wileee> !prtsc  | rom-
[00:07] <wileee> rom-, prtsc takes a pic
[00:09] <rom-> prtsc: command not found
[00:09] <wileee> rom-, key on the keyboard, hopefully.
[00:09] <rom-> kk ty
[00:09] <wileee> prtsc/sysrq here
[00:09] <wileee> no prob
[00:12] <rom-> how I prtsc my window only not the full screen
[00:13] <daftykins> rom-: add 'alt'
[00:15] <rom-> ty
[00:16] <rom-> how i upload pic here like paste.ubuntu.com
[00:16] <daftykins> imgur.com
[00:17] <rom-> boss ty
[00:22] <rom-> http://imgur.com/dhvgJGM
[00:22] <rom-> I have 350GB HDD. win10 is 260GB .. I'm thiniking of assigning it 60GB more of it's original 19GB
[00:22] <AqD> hey guys, how come the default-jdk is still jdk 7 even after 8 has been out for a year??
[00:22] <AqD> am I forced to install jdk 7 for java apps even if I have jdk 8??
[00:23] <k1l> AqD: if the apps you use want java7?
[00:23] <AqD> k1l: no they only depend on "default-jdk"
[00:24] <Bashing-om> rom-: That GParted shot must be from the install . no can alter partitions while in use ( keys, show locked as inuse ) .
[00:24] <AqD> but then "default-jdk" still requires jdk 7 not 8. Since default-jdk is a stub package, can I just override the setting somewhere ?
[00:25] <rom-> Bashing-om what do I do
[00:26] <daftykins> rom-: why do you have 6GB doing nothing?
[00:27] <Bashing-om> rom-: Boot a liveDVD, unmount swap in GParted ... If ya going to mess with Windows' partitions, best practice is to use Windows' tools .
[00:27] <SchrodingersScat> AqD: sometimes I install multiple java's and switch between them with sudo update-alternatives --config java
[00:28] <rom-> good.. how I put the 6gb to use to 19gb
[00:28] <rom-> i dont want to mess with windows
[00:29] <daftykins> rom-: right click swap, swapoff -> delete swap -> delete sda4 -> resize sda3 -> recreate swap -> mount sda3 -> update mount points
[00:30] <rom-> with no errors right? windows wont be a problem or touched.
[00:30] <rom-> and ubuntu wont be a problem either
[00:30] <daftykins> well like i said it needs some work after.
[00:31] <rom-> what work again
[00:31] <daftykins> re-read my message
[00:31] <daftykins> "update mount points"
[00:31] <daftykins> swap will have changed from deleting it then recreating it, so changes will need to be made to reflect that.
[00:33] <daftykins> rom-: we can help with this, but you'll need to do the earlier steps first
[00:33] <rom-> which is
[00:33] <rom-> right click swap, swapoff -> delete swap -> delete sda4 -> resize sda3 -> recreate swap -> mount sda3 -> update mount points
[00:34] <speaker> Hello
[00:35] <speaker> Any UK people who can rec a good 'netbook' style budget laptop to stick ubuntu on, ultra portable, just basic browsing, word documents etc
[00:35] <speaker> I've been looking at just getting a Chromebook but any others?
[00:36] <daftykins> speaker: they don't really exist anymore.
[00:36] <speaker> ah... :(
[00:36] <daftykins> netbooks require modifications that are unsupported, so they don't get my vote
[00:36] <ptr_2_mobile> Can someone tell me why i get a resolution error during installing ubuntu?
[00:37] <daftykins> can you provide more detail?
[00:37] <ptr_2_mobile> It's like if the installer required too high of a resolution from my monitor
[00:38] <ptr_2_mobile> My monitor shows me that the mode is not supported and that i should switch to my native res.
[00:38] <daftykins> ah ok this is on booting a live USB? which version?
[00:39] <ptr_2_mobile> Just after trying the live mode or installation. No difference
[00:39] <ptr_2_mobile> Yep usb. The 14. Version
[00:39] <daftykins> yeah both boot to the same GUI. do you know your graphics card?
[00:40] <ptr_2_mobile> Gtx 970 Gaming 4GB 256 bit
[00:40] <daftykins> vanilla, not Ti?
[00:40] <daftykins> do you get the white text on black background boot menu (EFI) or purple logo boot with language choosing menu?
[00:40] <ptr_2_mobile> Vanilla. Native res for the monitor is 1366x768
[00:40] <ptr_2_mobile> Purple
[00:41] <daftykins> cool, press F6 and enable 'nomodeset' to install and you should be able to get through installation just fine
[00:41] <ptr_2_mobile> I suspect that ubuntu is throwing full res on my gfx and the monitor cant handle it
[00:41] <daftykins> i'd guess you use VGA with that monitor?
[00:42] <ptr_2_mobile> Yea i read about that. The problem is that it doesnt help. Even with that option on
[00:42] <ptr_2_mobile> Yes
[00:42] <rom-> daftykins: resize sda3 wont select. option only is unmount manage flags and information
[00:42] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: does pressing ctrl+alt+F1 give you a TTY? terminal login?
[00:42] <ptr_2_mobile> I tried on a dvi monitor. No signal at the same point as the vga one
[00:42] <daftykins> rom-: unmount before resize
[00:43] <ptr_2_mobile> I can try that key combo in a moment
[00:43] <mingle> eiecccevheiirtvthdehdgcubnugkkrjifvnhguijnrn
[00:43] <ptr_2_mobile> Sorry for slow typing im on a mobile
[00:43] <mingle> oops, ignore me ^_^
[00:44] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: no problem, during the DVI test - that was the only monitor plugged in i take it?
[00:44] <ptr_2_mobile> Yes. I tried all mathematically possible combos with the monitors
[00:45] <daftykins> cool
[00:45] <rom-> daftykins: the partition could not be unmounted from the following mount points: /
[00:46] <daftykins> rom-: do you have any file manager windows open in the background looking at that drive?
[00:46] <ptr_2_mobile> Daftykins when should i press the key combo u mentioned
[00:46] <ptr_2_mobile> ?
[00:46] <daftykins> rom-: oh are you running gparted from this installation?
[00:46] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: flash drive boot or DVD?
[00:46] <ptr_2_mobile> Flash usb
[00:47] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: you can just keep trying it really and see if you get a TTY login screen appear
[00:47] <rom-> no
[00:47] <ptr_2_mobile> TTY is the CLI version? sorry im a first time user
[00:47] <daftykins> yeah command line only login
 rom-: oh are you running gparted from this installation? I dont understand please
[00:48] <daftykins> rom-: is this a live session booted from a flash drive, or is it the installation on the hard disk?
[00:48] <AqD> all right I gave up, just install both 7 and 8 :(
[00:48] <hero> i just added vmware player on my computer but when i click on the desktop icon it want run what shall i do?
[00:49] <rom-> nope it's from the installation
[00:49] <ptr_2_mobile> Daftykins nope, no CLI in the menu with that combo, but pressing ESC gives me the boot prompt in CLI
[00:49] <daftykins> rom-: ok, you can't resize a disk that you're booted from.
[00:49] <rom-> so
[00:49] <daftykins> rom-: you'll need to prepare a USB flash drive or DVD to boot into a live session to fix this.
[00:50] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: oh? is that the computer's BIOS provided boot menu, or?
[00:51] <ptr_2_mobile> It lools like ubuntu boot menu where i can get help with function keys and type in boot parameters
[00:51] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: hmm, ok do you know this flash drive is good? does it work on any other computers? (if you have another to test)
[00:52] <ptr_2_mobile> Yes i even verified the installation with ubuntu. It said no errors. I know it works coz i once tried instaling a corrupted iso and it detected the error
[00:53] <daftykins> ok.
[00:54] <ptr_2_mobile> So i am in that gui installation and can switch to that boot CLI screen with ESC
[00:54] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: try applying nomodeset anyway and booting 'try' mode
[00:56] <ptr_2_mobile> Okay i tried. The ctrl alt F1 worked when it tried to run the system but it also lost the resolution
[00:56] <ptr_2_mobile> The same way
[00:56] <daftykins> and pressing it again does nothing?
[00:56] <ptr_2_mobile> So i was able to see the text for about 5 secs
[00:57] <ptr_2_mobile> Yay pressing it again brang back the console
[00:57] <daftykins> \o/
[00:57] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: does this PC have a cabled internet connection right now?
[00:57] <ptr_2_mobile> I can install ubuntu from here?
[00:57] <daftykins> not quite, but it likely wouldn't help anyway
[00:58] <zacwalls> Does anyone know how to install flash in vivaldi?
[00:58] <ptr_2_mobile> Yes i have cable ethernet
[00:58] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: cool, can you run "xrandr | nc termbin.com 9999"
[00:58] <daftykins> then share the link here (type carefully :) )
[00:58] <daftykins> zacwalls: what's that, some FF version rebranded? or an entirely alternate browser?
[00:59] <ptr_2_mobile> Cant open display. Use netcat.
[00:59] <ptr_2_mobile> Thats the msg
[00:59] <zacwalls> daftykins, its in beta I think but it is like opera and chromium...
[00:59] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: try "sudo apt-get install pastebinit && xrandr | pastebinit"
[01:00] <daftykins> zacwalls: try "sudo apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree" (with Vivaldi _closed_ )
[01:00] <rom-> daftykins: So I should undo the last two operations and boot from a live dvd or usb right?
[01:00] <zacwalls> daftykins, ok
[01:01] <ptr_2_mobile> It seems as if it installed but the xrandr command gave the same message as before
[01:01] <ptr_2_mobile> Or wait
[01:02] <daftykins> rom-: not sure you can undo them, likely a reboot will give you errors now so you'll need to prepare a USB now or from Windows
[01:02] <ptr_2_mobile> The xrandr said cant open display. You are trying to send an empty document. Exiting
[01:02] <ptr_2_mobile> Just after it performed the instalation
[01:02] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: ok, try "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[01:03] <rom-> I undo them
[01:03] <rom-> and no errors
[01:03] <daftykins> rom-: ok
[01:03] <ptr_2_mobile> Paste.ubuntu.com/13018603/
[01:04] <zacwalls> daftykins, wow, that actually worked....
[01:04] <daftykins> zacwalls: hey don't act so surprised ;)
[01:04] <zacwalls> lol
[01:05] <ptr_2_mobile> Is that url helpful?
[01:06] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: yeah just reading
[01:06] <ptr_2_mobile> Okay
[01:07] <ptr_2_mobile> By the way thank you for this help
[01:07] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: yeah so right now it's trying to use 1024x768 over DVI, which obviously isn't happy
[01:07] <ptr_2_mobile> Weird
[01:07] <daftykins> what is your Linux/ubuntu experience level? could you install with the text mode installer?
[01:08] <ptr_2_mobile> I might have to get the 15. Version
[01:08] <ptr_2_mobile> 0 experience sadly
[01:08] <daftykins> you could try 15.10, that might work better yeah
[01:08] <ptr_2_mobile> I am a web developer so OSes never mattered that much to me
[01:09] <ptr_2_mobile> Yea ppl said it helped them
[01:09] <ptr_2_mobile> As it has a new kernel
[01:09]  * quantic has been meaning to check out xubuntu 15.10...
[01:09] <daftykins> *nod* essentially the open source driver can't handle your card very well so it's not even reading the monitor properly
[01:10] <ptr_2_mobile> So i would have to basically rip intestines from 15.10 and install them with that CLI to my 14. Ver
[01:10] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: i'm 100% confident i could help you install 14.04 from the mini ISO but 15.10 would be an easier test :)
[01:10] <daftykins> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[01:10] <quantic> ptr_2_mobile: eh, please don't do that...
[01:10] <daftykins> 37MB ^
[01:10] <ptr_2_mobile> Yep im gonna go for 15.10. Are there any drawbacks to that?
[01:11] <daftykins> ptr_2_mobile: no just download 15.10's ISO and put it on the flash drive
[01:11] <daftykins> err just that you'll have to upgrade again before too long, working with web dev you'd probably want LTS... but equally you may also prefer the newer software with 15.10
[01:11] <ptr_2_mobile> Yea yea i was only partially serious with those intestines. That was a metaphore for installing that stuff you talked abouf
[01:11] <quantic> tbh, i've been testing 15.10 as a webserver. it's been delightful.
[01:12] <ptr_2_mobile> Does update mean a full reinstall?
[01:13] <daftykins> no, just the upgrade
[01:13] <daftykins> quantic: heh total mistake for a server.
[01:13] <wessles> Hello
[01:13] <quantic> daftykins: don't do that. Don't assume that because people don't use LTS for a server that they don't know what they're doing and why.
[01:14] <wessles> Anyone here good with nvidia-settings and stuff? I'm having trouble making my changes stick after rebooting.
[01:14] <daftykins> too late :)
[01:14] <ptr_2_mobile> Thank you for help i really appreciate your time
[01:14] <quantic> daftykins: You know what assuming does.
[01:14] <daftykins> wessles: setting up multi monitor? don't use nvidia-settings, use the ubuntu monitors app
[01:14] <wessles> they're resolution / positioning changes for my dual monitors
[01:14] <wessles> daftykins, I don't have that
[01:14] <daftykins> quantic: upsets someone on the internet apparently ;) hehe ok lets not speak of it
[01:14] <wessles> I just installed ubuntu server, then i3wm
[01:15] <wessles> I've been adding to it for a bit.
[01:15] <quantic> daftykins: dude, EVERYTHING upsets someone on the internet. xd
[01:15] <daftykins> ugh these alternate DE folks :)
[01:15] <quantic> xD
[01:15] <wessles> it's not a DE though
[01:15] <wessles> it's a bare WM IIRC
[01:15] <daftykins> ok ok it's WM
[01:15] <daftykins> sorry it's Friday night.
[01:15] <wessles> so I have no DE, I guess :P
[01:15] <daftykins> wessles: so essentially you're probably falling into the trap that nvidia-settings wants to write the config to xorg.conf - but it's running as your user so it doesn't have permission
[01:16] <wessles> daftykins, I did gksu
[01:16] <daftykins> so you can either run nvidia-settings with gksu, or save the config elsewhere then move it into place
[01:16] <wessles> or however you say it
[01:16] <wessles> when I run it
[01:16] <daftykins> what's *actually* happening at boot?
[01:16] <wessles> and save (under root) it says "missing xorg-server" or something
[01:16] <wessles> lemme get the exact text
[01:17] <wessles> and also, at boot, it goes to lightdm with my settings for a moment, then it flashes the screen, and it's back to the crap one.
[01:17] <daftykins> erk.
[01:17] <wessles> indeed :P
[01:18] <wessles> it may be something to do with lightdm, perhaps?
[01:18] <CodeGosu> in nvidia-settings i can adjust "digital vibriance" on ubuntu, i havent seen such thingy on intel, is there any saturation control for amd gpus on linux?
[01:19] <daftykins> is that greeter even meant to work with i3 o0
[01:19] <wessles> daftykins, http://hastebin.com/raw/xafawakixe
[01:19] <wessles> here's what it tells me
[01:19] <wessles> when I try to save under root
[01:19] <wessles> sudo and gksudo
[01:20] <daftykins> CodeGosu: when it comes to AMD, be glad if the driver is even usable for the most part
[01:22] <wessles> daftykins, am I making a mistake in just using i3wm?
[01:23] <daftykins> *shrug* well it's definitely the thing that's breaking things, but then you shouldn't let challenges change your preferences
[01:23] <daftykins> unfortunately i don't know enough about the architecture of a functioning desktop to advise which parts go with what to resolve this situation
[01:23] <daftykins> i'd probably research what other folks use with i3
[01:23] <wessles> :(
[01:24] <wessles> maybe I should read the entire manual start to finish :P
[01:24] <wessles> I've just been reading the parts I can immediately google until now
[01:24] <daftykins> heh i doubt the ubuntu manual covers that :D
[01:24] <wessles> i3 user manual
[01:24] <wessles> you know
[01:24] <wessles> I'd REALLY like some book that tells me all the conventions of unix
[01:25] <wessles> I don't understand at all how and where all the configuration files are / work
[01:25] <daftykins> eh just learn the 'find' command then you're sorted :>
[01:25] <wileee> keep going others do
[01:25] <wessles> wileee, huh?
[01:25] <wessles> keep going with what?
[01:25] <magesing> Hi everyone, I just installed the latest-greatest ubuntu desktop... I told it to encrypt my home directory, however, I closed the terminal which was giving me the passphrase for my encrypted directory before I managed to record it (oops)... How can I get it back? I tried encryptfs-unwrap-passphrase but it returns "command not found"
[01:26] <wileee> wessles, keep working on it, "I don't understand at all how and where all the configuration files are / work"
[01:26] <wessles> wileee, I've been using linux since late 2012 and still have no clue.
[01:26] <daftykins> 2012 is nothing
[01:26] <daftykins> :)
[01:27] <daftykins> i've been here helping for like 7 years and still can't answer your question :D
[01:27] <vfw> sukee_: magesing That is one of the dangers of using that type of encryption.  If it were easy to defeat, it would not be effective.
[01:27] <vfw> magesing: ^^^^
[01:27] <wessles> I figured by 2 and a half years I'd have at least a clue as to what etc, lib, var, or usr are.
[01:28] <xingxing__> hello
[01:28] <Bashing-om> magesing: Friad you are high and dry ,,, with out that pass-phrase , nothing you can do .. That is the nature of encryption . NO ACCESS .
[01:28] <magesing> vfw: As I understand it, there's a command to get that terminal window back so I can record the passphrase... The way I think it works is that my home directory gets unencrypted each time I log in (automatically)  and it's only if I had to get-at the files from a different OS that I'd need the passphrase
[01:29] <vfw> magesing: I know of no way of recovering the passphrase.  Maybe someone else does.  Sorry.
[01:29] <Stmeter> magesing: I doubt you can get that window back
[01:30] <wileee> wessles, Little longer for me, best thing learned was things not to do in general, hobby here though.
[01:33] <magesing> http://askubuntu.com/questions/159139/how-do-i-know-the-password-for-my-encrypted-home-directory mentions the command "encryptfs-unwrap-passphrase" but when I try that command, the command is not found... what do I need to install to get the encryptfs commands?
[01:33] <cyphix> wessles: What are your problem with i3wm?
[01:33] <Bashing-om> wessles: Good beginners place : http://www.reallylinux.com/ .
[01:33] <wessles> probably not even a problem with i3, cyphix
[01:34] <petester> is there a way to sync between a virtual machine and an actual drive install?  sometimes i want to use ubuntu while in windows, but there are certain things that I need to do on 'bare wire'
[01:34] <wessles> more likely it's lightdm messing up something
[01:35] <cyphix> wessles: So it's just a problem at the login screen?
[01:35] <wessles> no
[01:35] <wessles> it's as problem that starts a few seconds into lightdm
[01:35] <wessles> so it could be something else, too
[01:36] <wessles> I have two monitors, and they are backwards
[01:36] <wessles> so I fix it with sudo in nvidia-settings
[01:36] <Stmeter> magesing: Try sudo ecryptfs-recover-private
[01:36] <cyphix> wessles: What do you mean 'backwards'?
[01:37] <wessles> I save it to /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:37] <wessles> right to left instead of left to right
[01:37] <daftykins> wessles: like primary is secondary, secondary is primary?
[01:37] <daftykins> are they the same cable type?
[01:37] <wessles> and that, daftykins
[01:37] <magesing> Stmeter: sudo: encryptfs-recover-private: command not found
[01:37] <cyphix> One solution might be to simply switch the cables on your computer
[01:37] <magesing> Stmeter Where do the encryptfs-* executables live?
[01:37] <wessles> that is besides the point though; I should be able to specify the main monitor from the computer
[01:37] <wessles> they are different cables; out of the question :P
[01:37] <daftykins> worth a go ;)
[01:37] <Stmeter> magesing: It's not "encrypt" it's "ecrypt"
[01:38] <Stmeter> for even the command you said
[01:38] <wessles> I tried to fix this problem manually when I set it up years ago
[01:38] <daftykins> wessles: does xrandr work in a terminal in your funky special WM?
[01:38] <magesing> Stmeter: lol, dammit, I'm such an idiot
[01:38] <Stmeter> ;)
[01:38] <wessles> daftykins, yup
[01:38] <wessles> works fine
[01:39] <wessles> when I set the settings manually, it shows on xrandr normally
[01:39] <blah-> WARNING : Shell not installed or running
[01:39] <blah-> WARNING : Shell not running
[01:39] <blah-> None
[01:39] <blah-> INFO    : GSettings missing key org.gnome.nautilus.desktop (key computer-icon-visible)
[01:39] <blah-> WARNING : Error detecting shell
[01:39] <daftykins> wessles: can you share it in a pastebin?
[01:39] <blah-> Traceback (most recent call last):
[01:39] <daftykins> blah-: _do not paste here_
[01:39] <daftykins> !paste
[01:39] <cyphix> wessles: So you're able to manually set your display correctly, but it does not remain at reboot?
[01:40] <wessles> http://hastebin.com/raw/ziholuseqa
[01:40] <wessles> cyphix, you got it.
[01:40] <blah-> sorry
[01:40] <wessles> it starts out fine for a few seconds at lightdm, then flashes into the broken layout
[01:40] <cyphix> wessles: Do you know how to set it up with the command line?
[01:40] <wessles> cyphix, set what up with commandline
[01:41] <cyphix> wessles: your correct layout
[01:41] <daftykins> wessles: so can you tell me which display is which side of which right now?
[01:41] <daftykins> i see DVI and HDMI
[01:41] <wessles> daftykins, DVI-0 is right, HDMI-0 is left
[01:41] <blah-> here
[01:41] <blah-> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13019063/
[01:41] <blah-> how to fix it pls"?
[01:41] <wessles> cyphix, no, I just use nvidia-settings and save to xorg configs
[01:42] <daftykins> wessles: what happens if you run "xrandr --output DVI-0 --left-of HDMI-0" ?
[01:42] <magesing> Stmeter: thanks for setting me straight on ecryptfs vs encryptfs... ecryptfs-unwrap-passphrase worked like  a charm.
[01:42] <Stmeter> fantastic :)
[01:42] <wessles> daftykins, I used to use xrandr at some point in the past to fix this
[01:42] <wessles> different issue though
[01:42] <daftykins> wessles: ok, but does it work?
[01:43] <wessles> it made it broken
[01:43] <wessles> as expected
[01:43] <wessles> it should be DVI right of HDMI
[01:43] <Windows3> Hello I just installed 14.04 on a mid-2010 macbook pro 13 inch and I installed the firmware-b43-installer for wifi which only works after I suspend the computer and wake it back up. How can I get it to always work?
[01:44] <cyphix> wessles: what do you mean 'broken'?
[01:44] <wessles> reversed
[01:44] <wessles> right to left
[01:44] <cyphix> even if you type the command daftykins gave you?
[01:44] <daftykins> wessles: so just swap the output names or change it to left of?
[01:44] <wessles> I just fixed it again by reversing the command
[01:44] <wessles> you got the command wrong, daftykins, it's the other way around.
[01:44] <wessles> DVI is to the right
[01:44] <wessles> HDMI to the left
[01:44] <daftykins> no you answered my initial question wrong XD
[01:45] <wessles> I did?
[01:45] <daftykins> i asked what it was, not what you wanted it to be
[01:45] <daftykins> so i guess you already had it changed to how you wanted
[01:45] <wessles> oh :P
[01:45] <daftykins> albeit manually
[01:45] <wessles> thought you mean physically
[01:45] <daftykins> anyway, you could just script that to run at login - dirty but works
[01:45] <wessles> silly me :P
[01:45] <wessles> eh..
[01:45] <wessles> I'd rather figure out what is changing it at lightdm
[01:46] <wessles> messy solutions aren't happy solutions :(
[01:46] <cyphix> wessles: If it works, then add 'exec xrandr --output HDMI-0 --left-of DVI-0" inside your ~/.i3/config file and it should be loaded at boot
[01:46] <daftykins> sure, but until you meet someone who knows more to solve it...
[01:46] <wessles> daftykins, that's why I came here :(
[01:47] <daftykins> yeah well it's Friday night
[01:47] <vfw> wessles: Messy solutions suffice till better ones come along.
[01:47] <PMunch> I'm having a little trouble getting my machine to hibernate. It seems to work only once in a while but most of the time this happens: First my screens go black, with only a prompt cursor in the top left corner, then after a while everything simply starts up again. The fans never spin down (at least not noticeably) and sometimes I get various error messages (not enough memory, unable to get hibernate file etc.) but most of the time I get nothing. What's going
[01:47] <PMunch>  on?
[01:47] <cyphix> it will be properly positioned once you load i3, so after you log in
[01:48] <wessles> where can I put it so it fixes it at lightdm?
[01:48] <cyphix> wessles: that I sadly don't know
[01:49] <vfw> wessles: It will need to be run after initial display is rendered.
[01:49] <wessles> so after exec lightdm?
[01:49] <wessles> I found the startup script
[01:49] <PMunch> wessles, not sure if that is even possible. It would be a bit of a flaw if user scripts could run before log-in. Joined late so I'm not sure what you are asking but I tried to get my machine to switch key mapping there so I could type my password properly but no luck..
[01:49] <daftykins> PMunch: can you share "free -m" in a http://paste.ubuntu.com ?
[01:49] <vfw> yes
[01:50] <wessles> lemme log out and test this
[01:50] <wessles> will brb
[01:50] <cyphix> PMunch: you can do that
[01:50] <PMunch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13019203/
[01:50] <PMunch> There you go
[01:51] <PMunch> cyphix, how?
[01:51] <wessles> PMunch, just add a line to the init scripts..
[01:51] <cyphix> PMunch: You can load a specific key mapping even before the initial shell
[01:51]  * wessles leaves
[01:52] <vfw> wessles: There is a GUI interface for setting it up.  In xfce, it's:  Applications Menu -> Settings -> Session and Startup -> Application Autostart
[01:52] <PMunch> I'll admit I didn't look to much into it. I only had to type a single character differently and I had plenty of other things to fix while I was having this issue.
[01:52] <daftykins> PMunch: so you have 8GB RAM and a 1.9GB swap - you don't have enough swap to hibernate - you need to up that to 8GB minimum
[01:53] <PMunch> vfw, isn't that run after log-in though? I'm using i3 so none of those changes seem to stick anyway..
[01:53] <cyphix> PMunch: I don't have the answer at the top of my head, but I sucessfully did it once because I had a complex keyword I wanted to use to unlock my root partition
[01:53] <PMunch> daftykins, that's was what I thought it would be. A shame that this SSD is so cramped..
[01:54] <cyphix> daftykins: Don't you need 8G of swap only if you try to hibernate when youw RAM is full, which is rarely the case?
[01:54] <daftykins> cyphix: yes.
[01:54] <daftykins> i would think that an obvious connection right now :)
[01:54] <PMunch> cyphix, I'll have a look into the key mapping thing next time I need it.
[01:54] <cyphix> daftykins: You you still can hibernate with less swap than ram
[01:55] <daftykins> yes i know, which is what PMunch came in asking
[01:55] <daftykins> cyphix: if you don't mind me saying so, i think you're arguing about a detail which does not need to be said.
[01:55] <PMunch> Well, as I'm running three monitors I often have quite a few programs open (not to mention my horrible browser tab usage) so right now I'm sitting at about 40% of th 8GB.
[01:55] <iceyballz> Hey all, anyone have vis on the elementaryOS project? Uses Ubuntu as the base to start, seems pretty decent. Thoughts?
[01:56] <wileee> not supported here
[01:56] <daftykins> iceyballz: unsupported here, support is non-existant - don't use it.
[01:56] <daftykins> !elementary
[01:56] <cyphix> daftykins: Ah sorry, I thought you were saying it was necessary to increase the swap equally to the ram. My bad then :)
[01:56] <daftykins> cyphix: well it will be if PMunch runs enough programs that the physical RAM is full, but i think PMunch can see the connection there
[01:56] <PMunch> iceyballz, tried it a while ago. Pretty nice but nothing I would use for my daily driver. This was at least a year ago though so that has probably changed.
[01:56] <iceyballz> No no, I do not need nor want support.  I wanted the ubuntu communities thoughts on it, because I would think opinions in their channel might be slanted.
[01:56] <daftykins> PMunch: which of course explains why it works sometimes and not others :)
[01:57] <PMunch> daftykins, true
[01:57] <cyphix> Indeed. I'll shut up :D
[01:57] <daftykins> iceyballz: put it this way, they're always trying to pretend they're actually using ubuntu so that this channel will help them ;)
[01:57] <PMunch> daftykins, that's probably the reason. Maybe if I can spare a couple extra gigabytes I could have it work in more cases :)
[01:58] <iceyballz> @daftykins: Ah that would make sense haha ;) thanks for the input!
[01:58] <daftykins> :)
[01:59] <PMunch> daftykins, I assume there is no way to create a secondary swap? I have ample HDD space which I could use but I like to keep my swap on the SSD in case I actually need it (which is surprisingly seldom, pretty much only when I run into memory leaks in my programs).
[01:59] <cyphix> PMunch: For the mapping issue, I actually run gentoo with OpenRC. It's different than systemd, so maybe it wont work. But apparently, systemd uses 'localectl set-keymap <your choice> to set it for the console.
[01:59] <PMunch> Or infinate recursions.
[02:00] <PMunch> cyphix, I'll look into that
[02:00] <daftykins> no idea if multiple swaps work
[02:00] <R0se> hello! do i have to add the new repos myself before upgrading to a new release ?
[02:01] <daftykins> R0se: you can't upgrade debian style, it'll break
[02:01] <daftykins> it's unsupported
[02:01] <R0se> so they get updated automatically then ?
[02:01] <PMunch> iceyballz, daftykins, that's actually one of the main reasons why I'm stilling using Ubuntu as my base I have modified it quite a bit so it's nothing like the regular Ubuntu flavours but it's close enough so that I can get help from the large Ubuntu user base. And not only in the form of direct chat like IRC but there is also a lot of guides and documentation for Ubuntu in general.
[02:02] <daftykins> R0se: start from the beginning, what are you running right now and what do you want to upgrade to?
[02:02] <cyphix> PMunch: According to http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/84453/what-is-the-purpose-of-multiple-swap-files, it's possible to have multiple swap areas. And in particular for a case like yours. It does not explain how to do it, but it gives you hope :)
[02:02] <R0se> 15.04
[02:02] <daftykins> R0se: so just run "do-release-upgrade" and you should be good.
[02:03] <daftykins> don't modify sources.list manually
[02:03] <PMunch> cyphix, oh cool I was actually half joking when I asked that.
[02:03] <finch_> how are you friends
[02:03] <daftykins> PMunch: i'd think it a mess because if you hibernate, it could have two 'pieces' of system RAM and you might end up with a monster in your RAM on resume ;)
[02:03] <cyphix> PMunch: Apparently, you even can set priorities, so it will first use your ssd swap, and then the hdd one
[02:04] <iceyballz> PMunch: That makes a good point. Of course best idea is to start with base and customize to your need. And base Ubuntu does seem the have the most active community support, something that elementary exlcuded themselves from with their "customized" apps and services.
[02:04] <finch_> how to upgrade my computer
[02:04] <daftykins> finch_: from what to what?
[02:04] <PMunch> daftykins, could be but realistically it would put the pages to different caches and keep some kind of lookup to find them all.
[02:05] <finch_> ubuntu 15.04 to 15 10
[02:05] <PMunch> So I'm not so sure it would be very prone to breaking.
[02:05] <daftykins> finch_: run "do-release-upgrade" and you should be good.
[02:05] <finch_> how to install xd,
[02:05] <finch_> xdm
[02:05] <daftykins> you're going to want to focus on the upgrade before installing other things
[02:05] <PMunch> cyphix, yea I see that, that would actually be exactly what I need. Hmm...
[02:06] <R0se> hm, daftykins may I pm you pls ?
[02:06] <daftykins> !pm
[02:06] <daftykins> support questions can remain here
[02:06] <PMunch> I should probably wait until I have no looming work of high importance though. Would be a shame to finish my work on my laptop if I break my install..
[02:07] <daftykins> PMunch: but you have great backups so that's not a problem! right?
[02:07] <R0se> i'm curious about how ubuntu handles updating repos
[02:07] <PMunch> daftykins, right, about that..
[02:07] <daftykins> oh dear...
[02:07] <daftykins> don't tell me...
[02:07] <cyphix>  hahahaha
[02:07] <PMunch> daftykins, I have a tab open in my web-browser with duplicity. Does that count?
[02:07] <daftykins> an article about it? XD
[02:08] <lubuntu2222> hi there
[02:08] <daftykins> is that like "have you read the boy who cried wolf?" - "i swear i'm halfway through it!"
[02:08] <PMunch> daftykins, their home page actually
[02:08] <daftykins> lubuntu2222: lo
[02:08] <lubuntu2222> someone needs me to put this in a file: set root=(hd0,1)
[02:08] <lubuntu2222> how do i set the correct values?
[02:09] <PMunch> daftykins, haha good one. I don't really know why I haven't set anything up already. Especially since I've been banging my head against the desk on multiple occasions from the lack of them..
[02:09] <R0se> also what's the difference between dist-upgrade and do-release-upgrade ?
[02:10] <daftykins> dist-upgrade does not upgrade to a new release.
[02:11] <PMunch> daftykins, confusingly.
[02:11] <Bashing-om> lubuntu2222: Tnat command we generally see for booting the kernel from grub . What is your issue ?
[02:11] <R0se> thank you :)
[02:11] <lubuntu2222> I need to use plop
[02:12] <daftykins> yeah dist-upgrade was written to trick new users
[02:12] <daftykins> (that's my opinion)
[02:12] <lubuntu2222> but im getting a file not found error
[02:12] <lubuntu2222> what should I set for /dev/sd6
[02:12] <lubuntu2222> pls lemme know
[02:13] <lubuntu2222>    dev/sda6
[02:13] <Bashing-om> lubuntu2222: That syntax " (hd0,1) " is grub speak for the 1st hard drive, 1st partition . to tell grub where the root partiton on the install is located .
[02:14] <daftykins> lubuntu2222: i think it's fair to say nobody can follow you, so plop is a CD image to chainload a flash drive...
[02:14] <PMunch> daftykins, wasn't that it's intended use but it grew out of it or something Think I read something like that somewhere (read: take with a large grain of salt).
[02:14] <daftykins> ah ok
[02:15] <Bashing-om> lub in grub speak sda6 would be (hd0,6) .
[02:19] <wessles> Okay
[02:19] <wessles> so, daftykins, I tried a ton of stuff
[02:20] <wessles> I added xrandr configuration scripts to all the init scripts I could find
[02:20] <daftykins> yeah won't work imo
[02:20] <wessles> the closest to success I got was the window manager, and it F'd up the bottom bars
[02:20] <wessles> they were both stacked on each other on the left screen
[02:20] <wessles> so yeah, I guess that won't work :P
[02:21] <cyphix> wessles: even inside the ~/.i3/config file?
[02:21] <daftykins> does it at least work if you run it manually at login?
[02:21] <wessles> cyphix, yup.
[02:21] <daftykins> after login, rather
[02:21] <wessles> daftykins, if I run it now, it works
[02:21] <daftykins> ah well
[02:23] <cyphix> wessles: Did you try to start x without lightdm?
[02:23] <wessles> I did not
[02:23] <wessles> how do I do that?
[02:24] <cyphix> wessles: You log off (Meta-shift-e), type Ctrl-Alt-F1 to enter the 1 initial shell and type 'startx'
[02:24] <boodllebat> i am two ip's pointing at my localhost i.e 127.0.0.1 and 127.0.1.1 i want only one
[02:24] <boodllebat> have tow ip's*
[02:24] <boodllebat> have two itp's*
[02:24] <cyphix> wessles: maybe you have to kill the current running lightdm first with 'killall lightdm'
[02:25] <wessles> or just block lightdm from starting
[02:25] <cyphix> indeed yes
[02:26]  * wessles comments out exec lightdm
[02:26] <wessles> brb..
[02:26] <daftykins> no you'd stop the service, heh
[02:27] <asdffff> was ubuntu always free?
[02:27] <daftykins> yes
[02:27] <asdffff> microsoft used to be free?
[02:27] <daftykins> never
[02:27] <asdffff> you dont have to answer that one...
[02:27] <asdffff> omfg
[02:27] <asdffff> why not?
[02:27] <daftykins> now go ask in another channel because you're off topic, thanks
[02:27] <asdffff> .......
[02:28] <iceyballz> randomness
[02:28] <daftykins> OS support only in here, the clue is in the topic.
[02:28] <asdffff> imma quit running ubuntu .....
[02:28] <daftykins> asdffff: cool, bye then
[02:28] <daftykins> ##windows might have you
[02:28] <asdffff> i aint kidding....
[02:28] <iceyballz> asdffff: OSX for life
[02:28] <daftykins> neither am i, we don't care :)
[02:28] <asdffff> which ones older?
[02:29] <asdffff> if you dont mind me asking.....
[02:29] <daftykins> asdffff: leave.
[02:29] <cyphix> Adam is probably the oldest.
[02:29] <asdffff> is this not ontopic stuff?
[02:29] <daftykins> no.
[02:29] <daftykins> !ot
[02:29] <asdffff> thanks.
[02:30] <wessles> no luck :P
[02:31] <wessles> I can't start i3 without lightdm running
[02:31] <cyphix> wessles: Do you have a ~/.xinitrc file?
[02:31] <wessles> yup
[02:31] <cyphix> what's inside?
[02:32] <wessles> exec i3
[02:32] <wessles> I tried adding in xrandr stuff
[02:32] <wessles> but no luck :P
[02:32] <cyphix> what does it tell you when you run 'startx'?
[02:32] <wessles> int a tty?
[02:33] <wessles> *in
[02:33] <wessles> or just regular
[02:33] <cyphix> yes
[02:33] <cyphix> from a tty
[02:33] <wessles> lemme do that
[02:34] <wessles> IT WORKS
[02:34] <wessles> it booted in perfectly!
[02:34] <cyphix> ;D
[02:34] <wessles> how do I make this work normally now
[02:34] <wessles> so we know it's lightdm causing this atrocity
[02:34] <wessles> lol
[02:34] <wessles> everything is root
[02:34] <wessles> this is so unsafe
[02:34] <daftykins> maybe try another greeter
[02:34] <daftykins> why the hell are you root in a TTY?
[02:35] <cyphix> yep, should shoudnt do that
[02:35] <wessles> because it said I can't do startx in regular user
[02:35] <wessles> how do I start it without root :P
[02:35] <daftykins> oh man did you run 'sudo startx' ?
[02:35] <nikitamog> Time to not-so-sudo.
[02:35] <nerd> when starting ufw i am getting this error WARN: uid is 0 but '/' is owned by 1000
[02:35] <daftykins> you just broke your users file permissions :(
[02:35] <nerd> ERROR: problem running iptables: modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:556 kmod_search_moddep() could not open mod
[02:35] <cyphix> that was my question. What does it say when you run startx with your standard user?
[02:35] <wessles> cyphix, dammit :(
[02:36] <wessles> daftykins, can it be fixed?
[02:36] <cyphix> but from a tty
[02:36] <daftykins> sudo chown -R username: /home/username/
[02:36] <wessles> that's all?
[02:36] <daftykins> if you did sudo startx, yip
[02:37] <wessles> thanks.
[02:37] <adminxx> noud pav
[02:37] <daftykins> you'll have to close the X session of course
[02:37] <wessles> anywho, cyphix it said I couldn't startx from regular user
[02:37] <wessles> what do I do though, do I install a new greeter?
[02:37] <daftykins> like i said install another greeter instead of lightdm, that might be the best approach
[02:37] <cyphix> wessles: what does it tell you? Why can't you?
[02:37] <nerd> daftykins: i broke users file permissions ?
[02:37] <wessles> it said something like "this user can't run startx" or something about permissions
[02:38] <wessles> so I did sudo and it worked stupidly :P
[02:38] <daftykins> nerd: no that was for another user.
[02:38] <wessles> nerd, t'was I.
[02:38] <daftykins> nerd: are you using sudo ufw blah?
[02:38] <cyphix> wessles: You might need to be in the video group. Not sure
[02:39] <daftykins> regardless, this guy does not want to boot, login at TTY then startx :P
[02:39] <wessles> cyphix, well, I just need to get me some new, lightweight greeter
[02:39] <daftykins> so just try another greeter instead of pursuing that test angle perhaps?
[02:39] <nerd> daftykins: yes using sudo ufw blah  :P
[02:39] <wessles> then i'm golden.
[02:39] <wessles> so, what is the lightest, sleekest looking greeter
[02:39] <daftykins> nerd: and what are you running?
[02:39] <nerd> i am running wordpress
[02:39] <nerd> on it..
[02:39] <daftykins> no the OS...
[02:40] <daftykins> we're in an OS support channel.
[02:40] <cyphix> Of course, but it would have been a good way to be sure it comes from lightdm.
[02:40] <wessles> cyphix, any ideas?
[02:40] <wessles> I can't google right now
[02:40] <wessles> chromium + root = death
[02:40] <daftykins> so quit and reload
[02:40] <wessles> oops; right :P
[02:41] <cyphix> wessles: maybe lxde ?
[02:42] <daftykins> aren't we talking alternative *dm's such as xdm or gdm?
[02:42] <wessles> back
[02:42] <wessles> so, what greeter
[02:42] <daftykins> up to you (:
[02:43] <wessles> I need ideas
[02:43] <cyphix> lxde seems pretty light
[02:43] <daftykins> i'm going to call it a night here, too much effort for too little gain - plus you've given up thinking for yourself and just want answers handed
[02:44] <cyphix> wessles: That said, I use i3 with lightdm without any problem. I'm sure it can be fixed.
[02:44] <wessles> sorry :/
[02:45] <cyphix> wessles: You could try to uninstall lightdm, purging the config files, and reinstalling it again
[02:45] <byabbablabb_> is it possible to map ctrl+alt+backspace to what it should be? :)
[02:45] <daftykins> zapping has been disabled for approximately 7 years
[02:46] <daftykins> byabbablabb_: so, not really nah - why would you want that back?
[02:49] <byabbablabb_> because i want it!
[02:50] <daftykins> sorry, it got disabled because it doesn't work right with unity
[02:50] <daftykins> so just learn the new (supported) way to restart the GUI instead
[02:50] <byabbablabb_> how about kde?
[02:50] <daftykins> problematic too
[02:50] <byabbablabb_> ok thx
[02:50] <amazingalex224> can anyone help me kubuntu, noone was in it, but all i have is a grub problem, and noone was in the #kubuntu channel
[02:50] <daftykins> or better yet - resolve your issues so you don't desire zapping
[02:50] <daftykins> you mean nobody was active
[02:51] <amazingalex224> yah
[02:51] <daftykins> amazingalex224: just ask
[02:52] <amazingalex224> ok, well i have 2 hard drives and I want grub on my second 1 not my first... and i tried installing onto my first using "sudo grub-install dev/sdb" but it came with an error
[02:52] <amazingalex224> the error says this
[02:52] <amazingalex224> grub-install: error: cannot find a GRUB drive for dev/sdb.  Check your device.map.
[02:52] <daftykins> /dev/sdb
[02:52] <daftykins> not dev/sdb
[02:52] <amazingalex224> ok
[02:53] <amazingalex224> let me try that
[02:53] <picachu> hello
[02:53] <wessles> duude
[02:54] <wessles> it worked
[02:54] <cyphix> with the new greeted?
[02:54] <byabbablabb_> daftykins: or ubuntu resolve their issues so I don't require zapping.... :P
[02:54] <cyphix> *greeter
[02:54] <wessles> although I think lxdm installed lxde for me or something
[02:54] <amazingalex224> ok it worked, but ik this is for linux/ubuntu but where can I find and reinstall a windows, because its on my first drive as well, and I dont want to use grub to boot windows, and only way ik how to fix it is reinstalling windows
[02:54] <wessles> it asked if I want to use lxde, openbox, and stuff
[02:54] <wessles> I may go with another DM.
[02:54] <daftykins> byabbablabb_: no, it's definitely whatever you're doing
[02:55] <amazingalex224> is there a way to remove grub from sdb?
[02:55] <macrox> actually i got paid by ubuntu to support you all ... .
[02:55] <daftykins> amazingalex224: to multiboot you have to chainload one OS from the other.
[02:55] <amazingalex224> since i have it on sdb?
[02:55] <macrox> but i am in so many channel
[02:55] <macrox> just come to channel ##opensource
[02:55] <amazingalex224> dafty i normally put grub on my second hard drive not my first
[02:56] <macrox> don't
[02:56] <daftykins> amazingalex224: are you saying you're going to use your BIOS boot menu to pick drive every power on?
[02:56] <macrox> put drive /boot
[02:56] <macrox> or normal install /
[02:56] <macrox> that's all
[02:56] <daftykins> macrox: you're off topic, leave please.
[02:56] <amazingalex224> no, when i press esp then go to drive 2 the grub comes up
[02:56] <amazingalex224> and when i let it boot automaticly windows will boot up
[02:56] <cyphix> wessles: It triggers some dependecies, it's normal. You can still use it
[02:56] <byabbablabb_> daftykins: you are telling me that *ubuntu is not broken out of the box for some people.... and if it is it is MY fault lol
[02:56] <macrox> oh so you mean dual boot
[02:56] <amazingalex224> but, the grub comes up automaticly
[02:56] <macrox> install windows first
[02:57] <macrox> than ubuntu
[02:57] <amazingalex224> yes dual boot, but using another hard drive
[02:57] <daftykins> amazingalex224: ok, weird preference - and no you can't use Linux to remove grub from sda - you'll have to go ask in ##windows how to restore your bootloader.
[02:57] <amazingalex224> i can install windows 2nd since i have 2 hard drives
[02:57] <amazingalex224> but wheres a download for win 7?
[02:57] <macrox> install windows before ubuntu
[02:57] <daftykins> byabbablabb_: i'm saying whatever you are doing to make you think you need to restart X is what you need to work on fixing.
[02:57] <macrox> because mbr will be override by windows
[02:57] <daftykins> amazingalex224: that is not an appropriate question for this channel, you will not get a windows download from a channel for Linux
[02:58] <amazingalex224> well, sorry for the spam, but I have windows, but grub overlays it, how do i remove grub and use win bootloader?
[02:58] <amazingalex224> cuz grub is on 2nd hard drive already
[02:58] <daftykins> amazingalex224: like i just told you, go to ##windows and ask for help restoring your windows bootloader.
[02:58] <cyphix> macrox: not if you have it installed on another disk
[02:58] <amazingalex224> ok
[02:58] <amazingalex224> thx
[02:59] <amazingalex224> is ##windows active?
[02:59] <yao_ziyuan> i have a problem with my xubuntu 15.04. if i have chrome running, and lock the screen, and then unlock the screen, chrome becomes nearly freezing.
[02:59] <SkullGreymon> amazingalex224: define "active"
[02:59] <cric32> anyone here good with madm by any chance? i might have got my self in a pickle
[03:00] <macrox> use firefox
[03:00] <daftykins> amazingalex224: you'll have to be patient to ask a question, better yet look it up.
[03:00] <macrox> chrome is not developed and iso
[03:00] <yao_ziyuan> if i close chrome and restart it, it's still near freezing.
[03:00] <daftykins> amazingalex224: you'll need a win7 disc regardless (and no, don't ask here again)
[03:00] <macrox> only firefox
[03:00] <macrox> chrome is buggy
[03:00] <daftykins> SkullGreymon: users reply, obviously
[03:00] <amazingalex224> yah i use usb
[03:00] <amazingalex224> nah*
[03:01] <daftykins> amazingalex224: disc, flash drive - same thing, jesus.
[03:01] <macrox> ##windows is bullshit
[03:01] <daftykins> !language | macrox
[03:01] <macrox> the real ##windows is ##opensource
[03:01] <daftykins> macrox: stop it and leave please.
[03:02] <yao_ziyuan> does anyone use ubuntu + chrome here? if you run chrome and lock and then unlock screen, will your chrome near-freeze?
[03:02] <Renfried> works fine for me (chrome and ubuntu mate)
[03:02] <macrox> draftykins are you developer ? if not just shut up , i got paid 700 million US DOLLAR TO SUPPORT UBUNTU
[03:02] <daftykins> yao_ziyuan: google make chrome, so its' issues can't be helped if you're already up to date.
[03:02] <byabbablabb_> fine with kubuntu
[03:02] <daftykins> macrox: leave. now.
[03:03] <cyphix> yao_ziyuan: if you like chrome, have you tried chromium instead?
[03:03] <yao_ziyuan> maybe it has something to do with xubuntu's screen locker.
[03:03] <yao_ziyuan> cyphix: what does chromium lack? pdf viewing?
[03:04] <cyphix> yao_ziyuan: nothing really. It's just the open source base of chrome
[03:04]  * jp01 waits for a Drone` strike
[03:04] <yao_ziyuan> i'll try chromium now
[03:05] <qkzoo1978> I'm actually using Lubuntu, but creating a custom action for PcMan, and need to know what to set MimeTypes= to so it only opens m3u8 extension files?
[03:05] <yao_ziyuan> chromium near-freezes too!
[03:05] <crayolarx> I think you will be disappointed with chromium unfortunately
[03:06] <yao_ziyuan> maybe it's something with my video card driver
[03:06] <yao_ziyuan> firefox isn't affected.
[03:07] <daftykins> could well be
[03:07] <yao_ziyuan> maybe i should try ubuntu 15.10.
[03:07] <cyphix> yao_ziyuan: maybe you should stay with firefox :)
[03:07] <yao_ziyuan> i'll switch to the open source video driver and see.
[03:10] <yao_ziyuan> another symptom is that my xubuntu's screen locker no longer shows a login box; i have to type my password in a black screen to unlock the screen.
[03:10] <yao_ziyuan> so it's definitely related to my amd video driver...
[03:11] <daftykins> typical AMD :)
[03:16] <amazingalex224> one thing, is there a software i can use on linux to install windows iso to usb flash drive using linux?5
[03:17] <Ben64> amazingalex224: ask ##windows about putting windows on a flash drive
[03:18] <amazingalex224> well they said use winusb, if ur using linux
[03:18] <cfhowlett> amazingalex224, so you already had a solution --- why are you asking then?
[03:19] <amazingalex224> to ask yall if It worked or not, cuz I really dont know who to really ask
[03:19] <dupingping> How to register new localization?
[03:19] <daftykins> someone earlier today said no, it doesn't work
[03:19] <amazingalex224> hmm...
[03:19] <cfhowlett> amazingalex224, download app.  try it.  test it yourself.
[03:19] <amazingalex224> ok
[03:25] <amazingalex224> ok how would I launch winusb? I installed a apt repo (sudo add-apt-repository ppa:colingille/freshlight && sudo apt-get update)
[03:25] <Ace__> Hello!
[03:26] <amazingalex224> all the debian and sources download says not found
[03:26] <amazingalex224> only the repo worked....
[03:26] <cyphix> dupingping: edit /etc/default/locale to set a new locale
[03:28] <dupingping> cyphix, i mean that i want to enter permanently new local to ubuntu.
[03:29] <cyphix> dupingping: maybe locale-gen <your new locale>
[03:33] <dupingping> cyphix, locale-gen?
[03:34] <cfhowlett> dupingping, open a terminal    man locale-gen           read.
[03:34] <dupingping> cfhowlett, i see.
[03:35] <cyphix> dupingping: if 'locale -a' does not show the locale you want, then yes, locale-gen is your friend
[03:35] <dupingping> cyphix, yes, i see.
[03:36] <dupingping> cyphix, can i publish a new locale on Ubuntu?
[03:36] <dupingping> cyphix, where can i find related man?
[03:37] <victim> ubuntu have an application to fill out?
[03:37] <cyphix> dupingping: I don't understand what you mean by 'publish' your new locale
[03:37] <cfhowlett> victim, you mean like a job application?
[03:37] <dupingping> for example, there is no locale for dprk.
[03:38] <wileee> amazingalex224, if you got it installed it is an app look in the menu?
[03:38] <victim> yeah....i files one in like 19999
[03:38] <cfhowlett> victim, no idea what you are on about ...
[03:38] <victim> filed.
[03:38] <victim> you under?
[03:38] <dupingping> cyphix, do you know about this locale?
[03:38] <victim> undernet
[03:39] <victim> Undernet
[03:39] <cfhowlett> victim, pretty sure you are in the wrong channel.  this is ubuntu support.
[03:39] <victim> its hard to program in jail.
[03:39] <dupingping> cyphix, you there?
[03:40] <daftykins> sekrit: i think we have another customer if you wouldn't mind
[03:40] <cfhowlett> victim, you're trolling and I'm ignoring your from hereon.
[03:40] <wileee> amazingalex224, as far as I know the last ppa for winusb stopped at saucy
[03:40] <victim> <-----
[03:40] <victim> dont FUCK with me
[03:40] <cyphix> dupingping: Be patient. I'm searching.
[03:40] <victim> youve been warned./
[03:41] <victim> searching for what.....
[03:41] <marian_> chrobi are you there
[03:41] <cyphix> victim: mind your language
[03:41] <dupingping> victim, what do u want?
[03:42] <daftykins> ignore the troll people, you're just feeding it.
[03:42] <cyphix> dupingping: Try 'locale-gen ko_KR.UTF-8'
[03:42] <victim> i want freedom
[03:43] <cfhowlett> if you are on hexchat, right click on trollnick and add it to your /ignore file.  instant disappearance.
[03:43] <victim> #freedom
[03:44] <dupingping> cyphix, wow, ko_KR is not for the country, okay, it's just example.
[03:44] <cyphix> dupingping: search on google the locale you want, and add it with the command I gave you
[03:45] <dupingping> cyphix, maybe. but i already searched. no.
[03:46] <cyphix> dupingping: are you looking for korean locale?
[03:46] <dupingping> cyphix, yes. There are two countries in ko. And NK's locale is no.
[03:47] <cyphix> I didn't know it meant two different locales.
[03:47] <dupingping> cyphix, :)
[03:53] <Guest17871> Hi I configure a repeater and can access it from android mobile but I can't access it from my ubuntu
[03:55] <Guest17871> Could any one help
[03:55] <Ben64> !details | Guest17871
[04:01] <Guest17871> Could you please tell me what the information or details you need.  I bought access point (to link) and my friend tried to configure it as as a repeater and he success when we using our android phone but when we try to connect to the repeater from Ubuntu laptop we see searching icon and no errors just we can't see connected
[04:01] <daftykins> Guest17871: that's not an ubuntu issue, ##networking perhaps
[04:02] <cfhowlett> nbvcxzA`123`QWEQ
[04:03] <Guest17871> I found some issues about this problem in Ubuntu not in windows
[04:10] <juzzy_> yo team
[04:10] <juzzy_> whats the ubuntu 15.10 kernel supposed to be
[04:10] <juzzy_> mine says 3.19
[04:10] <juzzy_> but was expecting 4.2
[04:19] <it_> i used this to backup                                                      sudo tar -cvpzf backuphome.tar.gz /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/
[04:19] <it_>                                                                           should i type this to restore will it restore everything back                                                              sudo tar -xvpzf /cdrom/backuphome.tar.gz -C /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/ --numeric-owner
[04:22] <it_>                                                                           should i type this to restore will it restore everything back??                                                              sudo tar -xvpzf /cdrom/backuphome.tar.gz -C /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/ --numeric-owner
[04:26] <viju> They faced the same problem as me, found a workaround but isn't what I want it.
[04:26] <viju> http://askubuntu.com/questions/189822/how-to-escape-spaces-in-desktop-files-exec-line
[04:27] <viju> How to escape lines in .desktop files.
[04:27] <viju> lines = spaces*
[04:28] <wessles> wow, that was annoying. I just went through one of those debugging sprees where you solve nothing, and forget what you were originally trying to fix :P
[04:28] <wessles> on the bright side, I forgot what I was originally annoyed it
[04:29] <wessles> regardless, my wacom and multimonitor are working flawlessly
[04:30] <wessles> thanks cyphix
[04:56] <UniFreak> I'm tring to install wine1.7 following this: https://www.winehq.org/download/ubuntu
[04:56] <UniFreak> but the soft ware center said it depends on wine1.7-i386, and it's a virtual package
[04:57] <UniFreak> so I did `sudo apt-get install wine1.7-i386`, here is the output:
[04:57] <UniFreak> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13020367/
[04:57] <UniFreak> what do I do now?
[04:58] <UniFreak> what `not installable` mean?
[05:00] <wileee> UniFreak, you might talk with #winehq ppa's are not supported here as well.
[05:00] <UniFreak> wileee: ok, thank you
[05:00] <juzzy_> hey whats the kernel version of ubuntu 15.10 - can anybody check for me?
[05:04] <trimeta> I'm having trouble getting the installer to work from a USB flash drive. I used dd to directly copy ubuntu-15.10-server-amd64.iso onto a drive, and while it boots initially, and I can hit "enter" at the "Install Ubuntu" screen, on the next screen (where it wants you to choose a language), it freezes and refuses to respond to any input.
[05:05] <trimeta> (Note, there are two "choose language" screens, the one before the "Install Ubuntu" option, and the one after. I can get through the first screen no problem, it's the second one where there's an issue.)
[05:05] <byabbablabb_> juzzy_: 4.2.0-16-generic
[05:07] <CardingiSFun> Hello
[05:07] <CardingiSFun> can anyone help mew with postfix?
[05:08] <Dylan____> Hi guys
[05:08] <Dylan____> Can someone help me with my MacBook Pro 2010
[05:08] <Dylan____> I installed Ubuntu mate and there's not wifi
[05:08] <Dylan____> Like what do I do
[05:09] <Dylan____> My nvidia drivers and stuff are in there
[05:09] <Dylan____> But no wifi
[05:09] <CardingiSFun> Do you have the correct drivers for your wificard?
[05:10] <Dylan____> Dude
[05:10] <Dylan____> My wifi card I know is a Broadcom
[05:10] <CardingiSFun> in your terminal type lspci | Network
[05:10] <Dylan____> That's all I know
[05:10] <wileee> trimeta, You have a chance to check the sum on the iso? Is there a check the disk anywhere like the desktop installs?
[05:10] <Dylan____> Alright let me get my install ion sub
[05:10] <Dylan____> Sub
[05:10] <Dylan____> U s b
[05:10] <Dylan____> And I'll plug it into my MacBook
[05:11] <wileee> done mini's but not the server, not sure the text install on them
[05:11] <trimeta> wileee: I checked the md5, sha1, and sha256 hashes, they all look good.
[05:11] <Dylan____> I'm booting into the live session
[05:11] <Dylan____> So what do I do again
[05:12] <CardingiSFun> @Dylan in your terminal type ' lspci | Network ' then upload the resaults to pastebin and send a link
[05:12] <CardingiSFun> with out the '
[05:12] <anonymous> kek
[05:12] <anonymous> kekekekkekekekekeekekkekekekkekekkeke
[05:12] <Dylan____> Carding the just gave me stuff about pic access methods and stuff
[05:12] <Guest83257> treregrvgrsesgvre
[05:12] <Guest83257> vgsr
[05:12] <Guest83257> gsvr
[05:12] <Guest83257> vresvger
[05:12] <Guest83257> grsv
[05:12] <Guest83257> sgvr
[05:13] <CardingiSFun> There is no official support yet in Ubuntu 11.10, but you can get it working with the following repository:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mpodroid/mactel sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer Then install the linux-backports-modules-cw-3.2-oneiric-generic or, if you have the pae kernel installed, the linux-backports-modules-cw-3.2-oneiric-generic-pae package.  Edit the /etc/modprobe.d/blac
[05:13] <CardingiSFun> Edit the /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and add the line:   blacklist ndiswrapper Create or edit the file /etc/pm/config.d/modules and make sure the wireless modules (b43 and bcma) are blacklisted:   SUSPEND_MODULES="b43 bcma" Reboot and the wireless should work.
[05:13] <Dylan____> It said I couldn't add papa
[05:13] <Dylan____> User or team doesn't not exist
[05:14] <Dylan____> And remember I have no Ethernet as well
[05:14] <paffy> Hi. I just installed ubuntu 14.04 on my SSD on a new partition but Windows 10 is not appearing in GRUB menu. I tried using boot-repair tool but no luck. Can someone take a look? Here is the boot-repair log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13020398/
[05:15] <CardingiSFun> i dont know how to help you if ethernet doesnt work then.. thats something you sorda need to download the drivers
[05:15] <wileee> trimeta, So at this freeze point no mouse or keyboard?
[05:16] <Dylan____> I typed in lspci it says Broadcom cooperation bcm4322 802.11a and a Broadcom netXtreme
[05:16] <trimeta> The server installer is ncurses-based, but yeah, no keyboard.
[05:16] <Dylan____> Where can I get the drivers then?
[05:16] <trimeta> (I didn't even hook up a mouse for this install)
[05:17] <wileee> paffy, Are you set to boot from sdb?
[05:17] <CardingiSFun> @Dylan https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#Installing%20STA%20drivers
[05:17] <wileee> trimeta, Heh, wish I knew more, hate to drag you down the road.
[05:17] <CardingiSFun> does anyone know postfix?
[05:18] <trimeta> wileee: Don't worry about it, this is more a #ubuntu-server question, but that channel's dead right now.
[05:18] <paffy> wileee: yes
[05:18] <maxscam1> anybody know about rsync? some wierd stuff happened tp my file
[05:18] <paffy> wileee: I can only boot Ubuntu and memtest
[05:18] <wileee> paffy, You have what looks like gpt still in the mbr, sda sdb show gpt, but you're msdos installed.
[05:19] <wileee> paffy, try sudo update-grub
[05:20] <paffy> wileee: ok. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13020446/
[05:21] <it_> i used this to backup                                                      sudo tar -cvpzf backuphome.tar.gz /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/
                                                                           should i type this to restore will it restore everything back??                                                              sudo tar -xvpzf /cdrom/backuphome.tar.gz -C /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/ --numeric-owner
                                                                           should i type this to restore will it restore everything back??                                                              sudo tar -xvpzf /cdrom/backuphome.tar.gz -C /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/ --numeric-owner
[05:21] <wileee> paffy,  open install gparted and give sdb1 the boot flag, than run the grub update again
[05:22] <wileee> should be readable without, one never knows
[05:22] <paffy> wileee: ok
[05:23] <paffy> wileee: heh, that might do it. I remembering doing this on my other pc
[05:24] <wileee> paffy, look at the info on that sdb1 in gparted as well, any errors, once in awhile windows needs a chkdsk
[05:26] <paffy> wileee: ok I ran update-grub again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13020461/
[05:27] <wileee> paffy, Do you see windows in the sidebar in home/nautilus, if so click to see if it opens.
[05:27] <paffy> wileee: right now, no.
[05:27] <wileee> paffy, Not there?
[05:27] <paffy> wileee: I did earlier
[05:28] <paffy> wileee: I can mount it via Drives app
[05:28] <wileee> paffy, Not sure what drives app is?
[05:28] <paffy> wileee: eh "Disks" :P
[05:28] <paffy> wileee: Disks says it is mounted... eh
[05:28] <wileee> paffy, Ah, when was the last time it was defragged and a chkdsk run?
[05:29] <paffy> wileee: never :D
[05:29] <paffy> wlemuel: pretty new tho. few months old.
[05:29] <wileee> paffy, Okay, is it mounted, look in goarted as well.
[05:29] <wileee> gparted*
[05:29] <paffy> wileee: I can browse it fine. Just didn't apear in Nautilus sidebar for some reason
[05:32] <wileee> paffy, My guess it needs a a disk check, a guess though. Better help here for sure needed, maybe check with ##windows on getting a disk check/chkdsk. You do have a funky set up with gpt and msdos how backed up are you?
[05:33] <paffy> wileee: Well all my important stuff is in dropbox, won't loose anything. Other than application settings. It will take a few days to reinstall if I need to do that.
[05:34] <paffy> Looks like gparted can do some kind of disk check, maybe try that?
[05:35] <paffy> "check and repair file system (tfs) on sdb1"
[05:35] <paffy> ntfs*
[05:35] <wileee> paffy, This may fix at least the gpt remnants and get things working, it may just be a chkdsk though, Do you understand the gpt msdos I've mentioned. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/wipegpt.html
[05:35] <wileee> no gparted check
[05:36] <wileee> paffy, You will have to read that link carefully, you mentioned windows being mounted, don't go haphazard on us. ;)
[05:37] <paffy> wileee: ok
[05:39] <wileee> paffy, I will have to take off shortly is all, but good help starts coming on in the next few hours, little less towards the weekend.
[05:39] <rahuldev> Hello
[05:40] <paffy> wileee: ok, thanks!
[05:40] <rahuldev> I have ubuntu 15.04, What will be better to install ubuntu 15.04 or download new ubuntu 15.10 and then install?
[05:41] <cfhowlett> rahuldev, 15.04 is supported for 3 more months ...
[05:41] <it_> i used this to backup                                                      sudo tar -cvpzf backuphome.tar.gz /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/
                                                                           should i type this to restore will it restore everything back??                                                              sudo tar -xvpzf /cdrom/backuphome.tar.gz -C /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/ --numeric-owner
[05:42] <rahuldev> cfhowlett, ok, on my laptop I've 15.04, Is window update it to 15.10 automatically?
[05:42] <cfhowlett> ??? window update???
[05:42] <cfhowlett> rahuldev, do you have 15.04 installed?
[05:42] <rahuldev> cfhowlett sorry ubuntu...
[05:43] <rahuldev> its ubuntu 15.04.. I installed both!
[05:43] <rahuldev> I think I'm totaly tired, not slept!
[05:44] <fyf> How long?
[05:44] <rahuldev> cfhowlett, is ubuntu update to 15.04 to 15.10 automaticaly
[05:44] <cfhowlett> rahuldev, take a nap.  sleep deprivation will cause ubuntu crashes.
[05:44] <rahuldev> fyf I think 23 hours
[05:44] <rahuldev> cfhowlett hahaha
[05:44] <cfhowlett> rahuldev, no.  NO automatic distro upgrades.  you have to manually permit that.  sudo do-release-upgrade will work
[05:46] <rahuldev> cfhowlett what about update manager (graphicaly) in ubuntu, I mostly do by update manager
[05:46] <cfhowlett> rahuldev, time to upgrade your skills.  open a terminal: sudo do-release-upgrade
[05:46] <rahuldev> cfhowlett ok
[05:47] <rahuldev> Yes it's checking for new ubuntu release!
[05:47] <CardingiSFun> Can anyone help me?
[05:47] <baizon> !ask | CardingiSFun
[05:48] <CardingiSFun> For some reason my webserver will not send out emails. its a custom built server running linux ubuntu
[05:49] <user> `user
[05:50] <CardingiSFun> i can not figure out why it will not work. i installed postfix n it still doenst work.
[05:51] <mircx1> Hi i, You Are In My Friends List (ArthasScript)
[05:51] <mircx1> Info Line For i, NOTSET (ArthasScript)
[05:53] <it_> i used this to backup                                                      sudo tar -cvpzf backuphome.tar.gz /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/                                                                          should i type this to restore will it restore everything back??                                                              sudo tar -xvpzf /cdrom/backuphome.tar.gz -C /media/it/faad1b8e-1145-4114-a15d-783536747e10/ --numeric-owner
[05:54] <CardingiSFun> anyone know postfix? please i have to get this fixed asap
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !patience | CardingiSFun,
[05:54] <cfhowlett> CardingiSFun, ask #ubuntu-server channel
[05:54] <CardingiSFun> @cfhowlett im running regular ubuntu
[05:55] <cfhowlett> "webserver" is something most desktop users DO NOT do.  the server channel however ....
[05:55] <baizon> CardingiSFun: try #ubuntu-server
[06:14] <stomanata> Hi, I`m searching for 1 site. I forgot his name. There categories for linux like  desktop, security, etc....
[06:15] <beepie> linuxtopia?
[06:15] <lickalott> Hey all!
[06:15] <stomanata> No, not distrowatch....
[06:15] <stomanata> it was other site...
[06:16] <lickalott> Has anyone successfully installed xen on 15.04?  everytime I try I have to remove it because it won't boot into the kernel.
[06:21] <wileee> lickalott, 3 months till eol, you might change the end goal.
[06:22] <beepie> lickalott, lickalott ?
[06:22] <beepie> lickalott, hein?
[06:22] <lickalott> sorry
[06:22] <lickalott> here
[06:22] <beepie> lickalott, hein?
[06:23] <lickalott> I haven't set aside the 2-ish hours for the dist-upgrade but I plan to do it.  I'm not thinking that would have any effect on xen though
[06:23] <beepie> lickalott, hein?
[06:33] <wbill> hello how do you force install a .deb package
[06:34] <cfhowlett> wbill, bad idea.  BAD idea.  but ... sudo dpkg -i packagename        and when you break things ... you bought it, YOU fix it.
[06:35] <Dylan____> Guys how can I get the wifi to work on my MacBook Pro 2010
[06:35] <Dylan____> On Ubuntu mate
[06:35] <Dylan____> There no propriety drivers
[06:35] <cfhowlett> !mac | Dylan____
[06:35] <wbill> it says it has an older version then doesn't install the newer and i need to install the newer due to its dependancy on another package
[06:35] <Dylan____> But with other versions of Linux there's support for it
[06:35] <ni291187> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu 15.10, this is my first time ever installing it, I just came from Windows
[06:35] <wbill>  libjack-jackd2-0 provides libjack-0.116 and is present and installed.
[06:36] <cfhowlett> ni291187, welcome to ubuntu.
[06:36] <wbill> conflicting packages - not installing libjack0
[06:37] <Dylan____> I'm being serious I want wifi on this old MacBook
[06:37] <Dylan____> But it's just so hard cause I can't figure out ughhh
[06:37] <cfhowlett> Dylan____, so use the link I sent you
[06:37] <Dylan____> I did
[06:37] <Dylan____> Right
[06:37] <Dylan____> But it's just a bunch of wikis
[06:37] <Dylan____> And stuff
[06:37] <Dylan____> And those versions of Ubuntu aren't
[06:37] <cfhowlett> Dylan____, and???
[06:37] <Dylan____> Released anymore
[06:37] <Dylan____> Or worked on
[06:38] <Dylan____> See on my Mac I'm using 15.10
[06:38] <Dylan____> Ubuntu mate
[06:38] <inteus> !enter | Dylan____
[06:38] <cfhowlett> Dylan____, method is the same >>> TRY before you tell us it doesn't work
[06:38] <Dylan____> I tried
[06:38] <Dylan____> Like no propitery drivers no wifi driver
[06:38] <Dylan____> This is a 2010 MacBook I'm using
[06:38] <cfhowlett> Dylan____,  no need to repeat.
[06:39] <Dylan____> Alright but still how wil I get through this
[06:39] <cfhowlett> Dylan____, if no answer in irc, leave a message on the mac forums
[06:39] <cfhowlett> and be patient
[06:39] <Dylan____> Is macfourms still around?
[06:39] <cfhowlett> !mac | Dylan____
[06:39] <Dylan____> Omg...
[06:39] <Dylan____> I'm installed mate alright problems are I Need wifi
[06:39] <Dylan____> I don't have Ethernet
[06:40] <inteus> Dylan____: Apple Hardware Users forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=328
[06:41] <van77> wi-fi routers in repeater mode can catch wifi for you and route it to Ehternet, imho
[06:42] <Dylan____> Forums say open invalid I'd..
[06:42] <Dylan____> Can't get to login screen
[06:43] <Dylan____> Sigh..
[06:47] <ni291187> I got my wifi to work but Firefox isn't loading any site. I'm a total beginner with Linux. what should I do next please?
[06:48] <cfhowlett> ni291187, that's ... odd.
[06:48] <cfhowlett> ni291187, try a bit of terminal work:  sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[06:49] <inteus> Dylan____: A little googling came up with this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacPro Towards the bottom is Wifi. Check it out. Note that I've never tried Ubuntu on a mac before, so I can't be of any more assistance.
[06:50] <ni291187> cfhowlett: sorry for taking long to reply, I'm on my iPhone as I can't get internet on my Linux. let me try what you suggested
[06:50] <cfhowlett> ni291187, no problem
[06:54] <ni291187> cfhowlett: it's giving errors
[06:55] <cfhowlett> ni291187, good!  do this: sudo apt update $$ sudo apt full upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[06:55] <cfhowlett> that'll return a url.  paste the url in this channel.
[06:55] <ni291187> cfhowlett: ok
[06:55] <froger> Hey
[07:01] <daniel>  /server irc.all4y.net
[07:01] <daniel>  /server irc.all4y.net
[07:01] <cfhowlett> daniel, stop spamming
[07:02] <ni291187> cfhowlett: This is what I got: http://i.imgur.com/Xu3UKFfh.jpg
[07:03] <cfhowlett> ni291187, good!  do this: sudo apt update $$ sudo apt full upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:03] <cfhowlett> that bit at the end will give you a url.  which I'll read.  don't want a picture  :)
[07:04] <cfhowlett> sudo apt full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999
[07:07] <gumar_> hello
[07:08] <wbill> aqny idea hwhy wheni try to install butt it tells me it cant find flac :configure: error: **** Could not find libFLAC     ****  when it appears flac is installed at /usr/bin/flac
[07:08] <afflicto> Hi guys. I just installed windows 10 and left some space for ubuntu, but ubuntu doesn't detect any of the partitions. What's going on?
[07:11] <ni291187> cfhowlett : This is the error that I got when I type what you suggested last: Temporary failure in name resolution.
[07:11] <cfhowlett> ni291187, OK.
[07:12] <cfhowlett> your outputs states "temporary failure".  could be the software mirror  is down for maintenance and will self-correct.  wait or try a different mirror.
[07:13] <bekks> wbill: you are missing the -dev package for that library then.
[07:14] <wbill> so how do i install that
[07:15] <bekks> wbill: which ubuntu are you on?
[07:16] <wbill> 12.04
[07:17] <bekks> !info libflac-dev precise
[07:17] <Ridgewing> How do I post bugs to this launchpad page ? : https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xboxteam
[07:17] <bekks> wbill: you need to install that package.
[07:18] <wbill> how do i install it via what command line method
[07:19] <inteus> wbill: sudo apt-get install libflac-dev
[07:19] <inteus> wbill: or sudo apt install libflac-dev
[07:20] <Ridgewing> How do I post bugs to this launchpad page ? i.e Where do I click ?  : https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xboxteam
[07:20] <wbill> my apt-get is frakked
[07:21] <bekks> wbill: why?
[07:23] <kostkon> Ridgewing, that's a team not a project
[07:26] <wbill> not sure everything i try to install says this
[07:27] <keepguessing> I see this bug in autofs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/autofs/+bug/1503034 There is patch attahced which claims to be the fix. There are others who have tried it and it has worked for them. Only one question? Its not assigned to anyone. Why? and how long typically would this before it is pushed
[07:27] <wbill> E: Package 'libflac-dev' has no installation candidate
[07:28] <wbill> or errors out
[07:31] <wbill> anyoneanyone?
[07:36] <cfhowlett> wbill,  !info libflac-dev
[07:36] <cfhowlett> !info libflac-dev | wbill
[07:38] <it_> how can i copy all folders and files i have on /home/it/Desktop to my usb /cdrom
[07:38] <it_> please help
[07:39] <Carsten> Hello! I have just run do-release-upgrade -d it asks me some questions, like are you sure you want to upgrade etc, to which I answer yes, but then it hangs at "calculating the changes"
[07:39] <Carsten> Any idead?
[07:39] <Carsten> *ideas
[07:40] <it_> how can i copy all folders and files i have on /home/it/Desktop to my usb /cdrom
[07:40] <it_> please help
[07:40] <bekks> wbill: Pastebin "cat /etc/issue" please.
[07:41] <cfhowlett> Carsten, why are you upgrading to -d?  that would be 16.04 which is virtually non-existent at the moment
[07:44] <luckybunny> guys, I just finished upgrading to 15.10, and I have no sound at all. Everythng looks fine, though (pulse detects the sound device, volume is up, etc)
[07:45] <it_> how can i copy all folders and files i have on /home/it/Desktop to my usb /cdrom
[07:45] <it_> please help
[07:46] <bekks> it_: You need to use a cd creation application like k3b or brasero.
[07:46] <it_> no it is an usb
[07:46] <keepguessing> Carsten: it could be stuck on network
[07:46] <it_> not some cd
[07:46] <bekks> it_: Why why do you mention /cdrom ?
[07:46] <keepguessing> Carsten: are you sure your dns/network for the ubuntu host is fine?
[07:47] <Carsten> yes quite
[07:47] <bekks> *then why
[07:47] <keepguessing> Carsten: when you say it hangs exactly how long do you wait?
[07:47] <cfhowlett> it_, open file manager.  select all files.  drag and drop to USB.  done.
[07:47] <it_> because the usb is mounted there
[07:48] <bekks> it_: So is it an usb cdrom drive, or an usb thumbdrive or an usb harddrive?
[07:48] <it_> it will not work i need sudo access
[07:48] <Carsten> 40+ minutes
[07:49] <keepguessing> you are upgrading from?
[07:49] <keepguessing> to?
[07:49] <bekks> it_: you need sudo access for changing permissions so you can copy files as user.
[07:49] <it_> it is an usb flash stick
[07:49] <bekks> it_: so which permissions does /cdrom have, currently?
[07:50] <it_> dont now
[07:50] <bekks> it_: Then look it up.
[07:50] <it_> ok how
[07:50] <bekks> it_: ls -lha /cdrom, look at the line with the single dot.
[07:52] <it_> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 8.0K Oct 30 06:40 .
[07:52] <it_> drwxr-xr-x 1 root root  240 Oct 29 05:46 ..
[07:52] <luckybunny> ok I fixed mine. Seems lke someone might have turned my speakers right down
[07:52] <it_> it@it:/cdrom$ ls -lha /cdrom
[07:52] <it_> total 239M
[07:52] <it_> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 8.0K Oct 30 06:40 .
[07:52] <it_> drwxr-xr-x 1 root root  240 Oct 29 05:46 ..
[07:53] <luckybunny> which is not good, because it often takes weeks to get them balanced
[07:53] <bekks> it_: No need to repeat your paste.
[07:53] <bekks> it_: sudo chown it:it /cdrom
[07:53] <bekks> it_: After that, you can copy your files to /cdrom with your filemanager.
[07:54] <bekks> it_: I suspect your usb flash drive has a linux filesystem, not FAT32 or NTFS?
[07:54] <it_> it@it:/cdrom$ sudo chown it:it /cdrom
[07:54] <it_> chown: changing ownership of ‘/cdrom’: Operation not permitted
[07:54] <it_> it@it:/cdrom$
[07:55] <it_> no fat32
[07:55] <it_> i used it in windows also
[07:57] <it_> can i not just type a line to copy everything
[07:58] <bekks> it_: sudo cp -a /home/it/Desktop/ /cdrom/
[07:58] <it_> and this will copy all folders and files??
[07:59] <Carsten> keepguessing: 14.04 to 15.10
[07:59] <bekks> it_: it will recursively copy the contents and folders from /home/it/Desktop/ to /cdrom/
[07:59] <bekks> it_: you can doublecheck afterwards, too.
[07:59] <cfhowlett> Carsten, 14.04 >> 14.10 >> 15.04 >> 15.10
[08:00] <cfhowlett> OR do the smart thing and do a clean install of 15.10
[08:01] <Ridgewing> How do I post bugs to this launchpad page ? i.e Where do I click ?  : https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xboxteam
[08:01] <Carsten> ok, well 14.10 first, but when running do-release-upgrade even after change the lts param to normal it says no new release found
[08:02] <it_> it@it:/cdrom$ sudo cp -a /home/it/Desktop/ /cdrom/
[08:02] <it_> cp: cannot create regular file ‘/cdrom/Desktop/Install Timeshift on Ubuntu 15.04 | Ubuntu Geek.html’: Invalid argument
[08:02] <it_> cp: cannot create directory ‘/cdrom/Desktop/Install Timeshift on Ubuntu 15.04 | Ubuntu Geek_files’: Invalid argument
[08:02] <it_> cp: failed to preserve ownership for ‘/cdrom/Desktop/BackupYourSystem_TAR - Community Help Wiki.html’: Operation not permitted
[08:02] <it_> cp: failed to preserve ownership for ‘/cdrom/Desktop/BackupYourSystem_TAR - Community Help Wiki_files/screen.css’: Operation not permitted
[08:02] <it_> cp: failed to preserve ownership for ‘/cdrom/Desktop/BackupYourSystem_TAR - Community Help Wiki_files/print.css’: Operation not permitted
[08:02] <cfhowlett> !eol | Carsten, because 14.10 is end of life ...
[08:02] <inteus> !pastebin | it_
[08:02] <Carsten> Thanks for the debian suggestion, but I am really not interested in switching
[08:02] <Ridgewing> How do I post bugs to this launchpad page ? i.e Where do I click ?  : https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xboxteam
[08:02] <cfhowlett> !paste | it_ you did this yesterday, same question, same conditions, same paste violations.  you know better
[08:03] <bekks> it_: Thats perfectly expected, since FAT32cant store linux permissions. The files are copied, the permissions are dropped.
[08:03] <it_> did it work
[08:03] <it_> do you mean
[08:03] <bekks> it_: Doublecheck it.
[08:04] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | Carsten, eolupgrade from 14.04 >> 15.04 then normal upgrade >>> 15.10
[08:04] <Ridgewing> How do I post bugs to this launchpad page ? i.e Where do I click ?  : https://bugs.launchpad.net/~xboxteam
[08:04] <cfhowlett> !patience | Ridgewing,
[08:05] <bekks> Ridgewing: You cannot post bugs to a team page.
[08:05] <Ridgewing> How can I post bugs to that project, then ?
[08:05] <cfhowlett> !bug | Ridgewing
[08:05] <bekks> Ridgewing: Thats no project. Thats a team.
[08:05] <Ridgewing> Do I have to create a project ?
[08:06] <bekks> Ridgewing: No. You have to select a project to post a bug against. Not a team.
[08:06] <it_> i have in a folder named desktop on /cdrom why not there i wanted it
[08:06] <Carsten> cfhowlett: Thanks.. I found the article before I came here however it didnt help
[08:06] <it_> i have it in a folder named desktop on /cdrom why not there i wanted it
[08:06] <Ridgewing> but this has no affiliated project (I invented it) - how do I create a pacxkage to post the bugs to ?
[08:07] <ddaachee> is anyone here familiar with touch development?
[08:07] <cfhowlett> Carsten, then download 15.10 and do a clean install
[08:07] <cfhowlett> !touch | ddaachee
[08:07] <Carsten> A clean install at the moment isnt an option
[08:07] <Ridgewing> bekks, ?
[08:07] <cfhowlett> ddaachee, also see www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads issue #102
[08:08] <Carsten> I'm not interested in running through a whole setup again.
[08:08] <it_> maybe this will help it@it:/cdrom$ sudo cp -a /home/it/Desktop/* /cdrom/       ??
[08:08] <cfhowlett> Carsten, you've been on LTS all this time.  next LTS in 6 months.  patience.
[08:08] <it_> should i try it       ??
[08:09] <Ridgewing> bekks:?
[08:09] <Ridgewing> !package
[08:09] <ddaachee> thanks cfhowlett - i will read now
[08:09] <Carsten> cfhowlett: Again thanks, but I already have a pile of broken packages as a result of running do-release-upgrade -d
[08:10] <Carsten> So I really do need to proceed with the update now rather than sit on my hands with a broken server
[08:11] <bekks> Ridgewing: It is a team page. you cannot post bugs against it .if it has no projects, then you cannot post bugs. which software/project do you want to post a bug against?
[08:12] <Ridgewing> I need to create the whole project for that 'team'.
[08:12] <Ridgewing> hi olli
[08:13] <bekks> Ridgewing: so you are the owner of that team?
[08:17] <Guest13479> hey has anyone used snorby before?
[08:18] <cfhowlett> Guest13479, best to avoid "has anyone ..." questions altogether.  post YOUR issues with YOUR details.
[08:20] <Guest13479> im trying to get snorby/snort to read pcap files and tell me what malicious activity is going on
[08:20] <Guest13479> everybody seems to get data in a gui but i cant seem to
[08:20] <Ridgewing> bekks: yes I'm the owner - I just created this : https://launchpad.net/~yselnne/+archive/ubuntu/xbox360ppa
[08:21] <Ridgewing> Did I do OK ? & how do I report a bug on that package ?
[08:23] <Ridgewing> !package
[08:23] <Ridgewing> !packages
[08:24] <bekks> Ridgewing: So thats a project you can create bugs for/against :)
[08:24] <bekks> Ridgewing: Shall I create fake test bug for you?
[08:25] <Ridgewing> please do.
[08:26] <bekks> Ridgewing: Hmm, I cant until there are packages in your PPA.
[08:27] <baizon> !whois ubottu
[08:27] <baizon> ups :)
[08:27] <Ridgewing> does that have to be a .deb or can it be anything ?
[08:29] <Ridgewing> bekks: BRBack
[08:29] <do2kd> good morning. hope for help with project. try to filter ham radio signals. have jack rack runnning but not able to find the right filters. any ideas or tipp for other channel on irc? thank you
[08:40] <Ridgewing> bekks: I'm back .. so how do I create a package ?
[08:41] <bekks> Ridgewing: Thats linked under "Adding this PPA to your system" on https://launchpad.net/~yselnne/+archive/ubuntu/xbox360ppa
[08:41] <Ridgewing> bekks: Can that be any file, then ?
[08:42] <bekks> Ridgewing: No, it has to be a package.
[08:42] <Ridgewing> bekks:So how do I create a package from nothing - just to get it started ?
[08:42] <bekks> Ridgewing: Thats linked under "Adding this PPA to your system" on https://launchpad.net/~yselnne/+archive/ubuntu/xbox360ppa
[08:44] <Ridgewing> bekks: It's too complicated - can't you do it ?
[08:44] <bekks> Ridgewing: No :) If you are the teamleader and the project admin, thats entirely up to you :)=
[08:45] <Ridgewing> bekks: I just need to report bugs to get some money onto the package via bountysource.
[08:45] <atralheaven_> Hi, I want to use l2tp vpn, which packages should I install?
[08:45] <Ridgewing> bekks: then someone else can do the work.
[08:45] <bekks> Ridgewing: Report bugs against which software?
[08:46] <Ridgewing> bekks: exactly ! There IS NONE yet - I need to report a bug to get money behind the project ( my own) & thereby create the software.
[08:47] <bekks> Ridgewing: If there is no software, there is nothing to report bugs against.
[08:47] <bekks> Ridgewing: Which software do you want to report bugs against?
[08:48] <atralheaven_> Does ubuntu support l2tp vpn client in its network manager at all..?
[08:49] <Ridgewing> bekks: there ISN'T any software (at the moment)! - I need to get the free60.org software onto that package - how can I pay someone to do this ?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> perhaps filing a bug against non-existent packages is not the most efficient method.  just sayin
[08:50] <bekks> Ridgewing: If there is no software, there is nothing to file a bug against.
[08:50] <bekks> Ridgewing: Create a package, upload it, faile a bug against it.
[08:50] <Ridgewing> cfhowlett: There is a catch 22 for non-coders on launchpad, then i.e. It doesnot work !
[08:51] <cfhowlett> launchpad is not the sole source of coders even in ubuntu land
[08:51] <Ridgewing> CAn I copy a package and upload that ?
[08:51] <bekks> Ridgewing: Filing a bug against non-existant software is like asking someone to repair your car, which you dont have.
[08:52] <bekks> Ridgewing: Why dont you just click on that link and read how to create and upload a package?
[08:52] <Ridgewing> bekks: I'm asking someone to build the package i.e. build the car not fix it !
[08:52] <bekks> Ridgewing: Good luck in finding someone :P
[08:52] <Ridgewing> bekks: It's too complicated for me.
[08:53] <Ridgewing> What sites are there for freelancers to-do this, for me, then ?
[08:54] <cfhowlett> Ridgewing, ubuntu-offtopic   ?  ubuntu mailing lists?
[08:54] <Ridgewing> there not websites.
[08:55] <cfhowlett> and yet thousands of coders use them..funny, huh?
[08:55] <Ridgewing> none that would accept money, though.
[08:56] <Ridgewing> therefore, probably wouldn't do it.
[08:56] <cfhowlett> ! I have never met a coder who would NOT accept money.
[08:57] <Ridgewing> cfhowlett:Really, that's BS - what's your profile-name on bountysource, then ?
[08:57] <Guest24128> Not sure I am in the right place. Have several Ubuntu related questions and think I may have got a virus
[08:57] <Alpha-Omega> Hey guys, I just realized that the "macchanger" program in 14.04 LTS has a bug where with the "-r" parameter doesn't work.
[08:57] <cfhowlett> Guest24128, you're in the right place.  details???
[08:57] <Alpha-Omega> It was reported as a bug, but hasn't been fixed in updates, in over a year.
[08:57] <cfhowlett> Ridgewing, https://www.upwork.com/ppc/landing/?hl=Top%20Rated%20Ubuntu%20Coders&ct=Ubuntu%20Coders&query=Ubuntu&vt_src=bing&vt_cmp=Programming&vt_adg=ST%20|%20Ubuntu,Coder%20&%20BT-%28Programming-None-None%29-MVP&vt_kw=%2Bubuntu%20%2Bcoder&vt_device=c&vt_med=provenD2&vt_cmp=61754079&vt_adg=4149026548&vt_src=bing&vt_kw=%2Bubuntu%20%2Bcoder&vt_device=c&utm_source=bing&utm_campaign=61754079&utm_medium=paidsearch
[08:58] <cfhowlett> doh!  sorry.
[08:58] <Ridgewing> opening .....
[08:58] <Guest24128> Thanks. Two days ago I had a working laptop (acer aspire 6939g) with a working keyboard
[08:59] <Guest24128> then the charger failed and Currys talked me into buying a universal one
[08:59] <Guest24128> It made the computer work but then the keyboard went nuts
[09:00] <Guest24128> I sorted that mostly except for the y by cleaning it, but in the way all sorts of odd things happened and I think my admin password was changed
[09:00] <cfhowlett> Guest24128, forgive me: "curry's"?
[09:01] <Guest24128> Currys is an electrical store
[09:01] <cfhowlett> OK so I guess you bought a non-Acer keyboard?
[09:01] <Guest24128> I got insane series of 8888888's or 22222222222's
[09:02] <cfhowlett> Guest24128, check your keyboard settings
[09:02] <cfhowlett> reigon, language
[09:02] <Guest24128> no I didn't I still have the laptop keyboard with no y
[09:02] <Guest24128> Using the universal keyboard to put it in at the moment
[09:03] <cfhowlett> check your settings/keyboard layout then.  also "changed your password"?   why do you make that claim?
[09:03] <Guest24128> Currys technical dept sa nothing related to the keyboard is affected by the universal charger
[09:03] <Guest24128> Now let me explain
[09:03] <cfhowlett> ...
[09:04] <Alpha-Omega> Is there any reason there hasn't been a bug fix released for macchanger in 14.04? Do bug fixes not get released for LTS?
[09:04] <Guest24128> I am the admin, and I find the password has changed to something with 5 letters or numbers
[09:04] <cfhowlett> Guest24128, ah!  so you can  no longer log in??
[09:04] <auronandace> universal charger for a laptop or a keyboard, because different laptops have different power input slots
[09:04] <Guest24128> I cannot seem to change the password using the way you can b y going into gup
[09:05] <cfhowlett> Guest24128, CAN _ YOU _ LOG _ IN?
[09:05] <Guest24128> I am logged in, but cant find what the password is and cant change it and so darent log out
[09:06] <cfhowlett> if you logged in, then you have the same password.  or am I totally missing something?
[09:07] <Guest24128> I have read all these ways to go to the root shell and change the password, but I can't seem to do it
[09:08] <pepijndevos_> My Alsa sound is not working ever since I installed jack, and all the Alsa troubleshooting I can find shows everything is fine.
[09:08] <Guest24128> and how come the password was changed? NOBODY but me uses this laptop and I live alone
[09:08] <pepijndevos_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/688227/how-can-i-properly-use-both-alsa-and-jack
[09:09] <cfhowlett> Guest24128, if you logged in with the same password, password was not changed ...
[09:09] <pepijndevos_> Did Jack somehow change my Alsa config?
[09:09] <Guest24128> No I am logged in, but I cannot see the password. There is no way to make it visible. I can just see it contains five characters by going into sstem settings
[09:09] <cfhowlett> that's normal!!
[09:10] <cfhowlett> you're not supposed to see a viewable password >>> security
[09:10] <auronandace> Guest24128: when trying to change the password do you have capslock on?
[09:10] <Guest24128> yes but the point is I need to reset the password as it is NOT the one i used and I do not know what it has changed to and using the grub option just does not work
[09:11] <Guest24128> and no checked caps on but as I had a seven letter password and it is now 5 and not the one I had I cannot access it
[09:12] <auronandace> Guest24128: how did you login if you don't know what the password has changed to?
[09:13] <Guest24128> I was already logged in
[09:13] <auronandace> Guest24128: you just said you tried to use the grub option so that meansyou rebooted (which would log you out)
[09:14] <Guest24128> well I would have thought so but I can restart the computer and I am logged in
[09:14] <Guest24128> it doesn't automatically log out
[09:14] <auronandace> Guest24128: so you got autologin setup and don't know the password and want to change it?
[09:14] <cfhowlett> more likely it auto-login
[09:15] <Guest24128> well that would work
[09:16] <Guest24128> @aurondance, yes but because the admin password was changed, I can't.
[09:16] <hero>  i just installed vmware and i have a problem lanching it
[09:17] <auronandace> Guest24128: i never use autologin so i can't help you sorry
[09:17] <Guest24128> I think it was set to autologin
[09:17]  * cfhowlett agrees with auronandace; autologin is a BAD idea ...
[09:18] <akik> does using init=/bin/bash still work with ubuntu? does it ask for root passwd?
[09:18] <Guest24128> but seriously, the keboard goes nuts and the password changes ...is that a virus (I am aware we are supposed to be free of them with linux) but it is all ver odd
[09:18] <auronandace> Guest24128: then you set it up to autologin when you installed it (unless of course you didn't install it)
[09:19] <Guest24128> it does ask for the root password, which of course I don't now have
[09:19] <Guest24128> I did install it
[09:19] <auronandace> Guest24128: you don't set a root password in ubuntu, you use your user's password with sudo
[09:19] <Guest24128> ubuntu 12.04 originall y using a disk
[09:20] <Guest24128> ugraded to 14.10
[09:20] <MonkeyDust> Guest24128  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[09:20] <Guest24128> I have no idea
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> Guest24128  then type it in a terminal and paste the outcome here
[09:21] <Guest24128> well then the user password was changed
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> ok, havent followed... it's a password problem?
[09:21] <Guest24128> sorry what do I type into the terminql
[09:22] <Guest24128> =terminal?
[09:23] <Guest24128> @monkeydust I changed the charger, the keyboard went nuts, the password changed for admin
[09:24] <Guest24128> I can't change the password b y going to grub and trying to edit or other ways I reqe
[09:25] <Guest24128> read
[09:26] <MonkeyDust> Guest24128  is this useful http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[09:27] <Ubik_> hi
[09:27] <nailer> Hello everyone
[09:27] <Ubik_> any help available for live disk?
[09:27] <Guest24128> @Monkeydust. Thanks but that is exactly what I tried and I cannot make it work
[09:28] <MonkeyDust> Ubik_  this is the support channel, ask your question
[09:28] <nailer> Can I ask something here, not about Ubuntu?
[09:28] <cfhowlett> nailer, we have #ubuntu-offtopic for that
[09:29] <Guest24128> it just brings me back to being asked for my password!
[09:30] <Ubik_> MonkeyDust: i tried many live distros and they all freeze after a while (can be hours)  I guess it is possible that data written is limited due to space availabe  i.e. firefox cache or else...
[09:31] <Xaro> Hey everyone
[09:31] <Ubik_> hi
[09:33] <nex-l> is there anything particular I have to do in ubuntu to get .xinitrc to execute?
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> Ubik_  live sessions are not meant to be used for hours... use them to try and then install a distro
[09:34] <MonkeyDust> for hours on end*
[09:35] <lotus|xenial> morning MonkeyDust
[09:35] <Ubik_> MonkeyDust: ok do all ubuntu distros propose a multiboot with windows when installing?
[09:36] <cfhowlett> all buntus will.  do you NOT want dualboot??
[09:36] <Ubik_> MonkeyDust: yes that s what i want
[09:36] <Ubik_> sorry cfhowlett
[09:37] <Ubik_> i want dualboot
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> !dualboot
[09:38] <cfhowlett> install virtualbox to windows.  install ubuntu/lubuntu/xubuntu to vbox.
[09:38] <Ubik_> ok thk u all   bye for now
[09:40] <userName|MkS> developer.ubuntu.com wtf
[09:40] <Ubik_> cfhowlett: hey that s an idea virtualbox; will it slow ubuntu? my pc is 10 years old
[09:40] <Ubik_> cfhowlett: 1 gb mem
[09:40] <Ubik_> cfhowlett: athlon 3200+
[09:41] <Ubik_> cfhowlett: amd
[09:41] <userName|MkS> developer.ubuntu.com working ???
[09:41] <cfhowlett> Ubik_, install 32 bit lubuntu to vbox
[09:41] <userName|MkS> wht is lubunutu???
[09:41] <userName|MkS> wtf ?
[09:42] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | userName|MkS no profanity.  knock it off.  NOW.
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> userName|MkS  works here
[09:42] <Ubik_> cfhowlett: ok
[09:43] <userName|MkS> MonkeyDust you have account there
[09:43] <MonkeyDust> userName|MkS  no
[09:43] <userName|MkS> i have and they never see apps i published there
[09:43] <cfhowlett> Ubik_, note: lubuntu is optimized for older / slower / low spec machines.  probably the best choice for you but xubuntu is also not bad.
[09:43] <userName|MkS> ubottu thanks
[09:44] <userName|MkS> damn !seriously ?
[09:44] <userName|MkS> ubottu what is linux
[09:44] <userName|MkS> ubottu what is irc
[09:44] <userName|MkS> ubootu not working wtf
[09:45] <lotus|xenial> userName|MkS: stop swearing in channel
[09:45] <Ubik_> ubottu is real fun
[09:45] <userName|MkS> am checking it
[09:45] <MonkeyDust> userName|MkS  behave or go away
[09:45] <Ubik_> ok ok
[09:45] <userName|MkS> lol
[09:45] <userName|MkS> lotus
[09:45] <userName|MkS> so u have account there ?
[09:46] <userName|MkS> on developer.ubuntu.com ?
[09:46] <lotus|xenial> !ot | userName|MkS
[09:47] <Ubik_> bb all (again) and u too ubottu
[09:47] <userName|MkS> anyone here works at developer.ubuntu.com ???
[09:47] <userName|MkS> i really need to talk to guy who work there
[09:48] <userName|MkS> cause u guys are taking ubuntu down , cause of you guys developers think there is no life there in this plateform wth is wrong with u rude a.h ???
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> userName|MkS  discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here
[09:49] <lotus|xenial> !ops | userName|MkS trolling
[09:50] <userName|MkS> this is about ubuntu and this sshould be discussed here
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> userName|MkS  this is for support, not for discussion, you're not in the right channel
[09:50] <userName|MkS> developer.ubuntu.com is offtopic seriously ??
[09:51] <userName|MkS> its the plateform where ubuntu recommend developers to work and push apps for ubuntu
[09:51] <userName|MkS> oh
[09:51] <userName|MkS> so this is a support channel
[09:53] <userName|MkS> actually you all are acring linke you work for ubuntu and the truth is none of you do that lmao , am seriously pissed off by the behaviour of developer.ubuntu.com and for that reason am gonna fuck the guys who work there . so all i need to get is their address , and a dildo with lots of scratches on it ! gl a.h keep up your support shit
[09:54] <lotus|xenial> !ops | userName|MkS
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> userName|MkS  stop
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> userName|MkS  you know where to go for discussion, why are you still here
[09:54] <userName|MkS> !ops | lotus|xenial
[09:55] <userName|MkS> wtf is this lol
[09:55] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | userName|MkS
[09:55] <userName|MkS> !ops |MonkeyDust
[09:55] <userName|MkS> !ops | ubottu
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> userName|MkS  are you a lonely teenage girl looking for attention? there are other channels for that
[09:59] <ClusTer> hi Dears
[09:59] <commander_> hi friends
[09:59] <ClusTer> how to install virtualbox on my ubuntu ?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> ClusTer, ubuntu software center
[10:00] <commander_> i want make apps for ubuntu how can i start ? what i need to install
[10:00] <commander_> ClusTer, sudo apt-get install virtualbox
[10:00] <cfhowlett> commander_, https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/
[10:00] <EriC^^> commander_: you mean gui apps?
[10:00] <MonkeyDust> !ide | commander_
[10:00] <commander_> EriC^^, yes
[10:01] <commander_> thanks ubottu
[10:01] <ClusTer> دوستان فارسی زبان اینجا داریم ؟
[10:01] <MonkeyDust> commander_  there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[10:01] <commander_> MonkeyDust, what ?
[10:01] <EriC^^> commander_: you can use gtk + python or gtk + c
[10:01] <EriC^^> and other stuff
[10:01] <commander_> thanks all
[10:01] <linocisco> hi all
[10:01] <commander_> ubottu, do i need install them all ?
[10:01] <lotus|xenial> !arabic | ClusTer
[10:02] <linocisco> I have rolled back to 14.04.3 LTS, and apt-get update && upgrade
[10:02] <linocisco> what to do next?
[10:02] <commander_> ubottu, what ?
[10:02] <commander_> EriC^^, i know c++
[10:02] <EriC^^> commander_: see here http://python-gtk-3-tutorial.readthedocs.org/en/latest/install.html
[10:02] <commander_> EriC^^, thanks i will check themattbeballin
[10:02] <cfhowlett> linocisco, ??? how should we know?
[10:02] <ClusTer>  /msg OperServ SESSION LIST threshold
[10:03] <EriC^^> commander_: c is similar to c++, python is more like visual basic somehow, but it's easier to make gui apps i think with gtk, less code to write and stuff, i'm no expert though
[10:04] <EriC^^> check the link it has a good guide to start with gtk + python commander_
[10:04] <commander_> EriC^^,  thanks dear
[10:04] <EriC^^> no problem
[10:04] <linocisco> cfhowlett, let me repeat the previous problem and IRC users here suggested me to install LTS . The problem is pointer is moving at random speed at random place at random time whenever I was typing in any text box . that was 15.04 x86 on my laptop.
[10:05] <cfhowlett> linocisco, and this behavior is still present??
[10:05] <linocisco> cfhowlett,  I am now with LTS 14.04.3 very clean install with only apt-get update and upgrade. and hexchat is installed to chat with all folks here
[10:05] <linocisco> cfhowlett, not so frequent like before.
[10:05] <cfhowlett> bluetooth mouse or wired/
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> linocisco  can it be that the mouse / keyboard needs to be cleaned?
[10:06] <linocisco> cfhowlett,  bluetooth mouse, and touch pad mouse
[10:06] <EriC^^> commander_: also check glade https://glade.gnome.org/
[10:06] <linocisco> MonkeyDust, I dont think so . my practice is I keep all in one bag every after use
[10:06] <commander_> yeah i installed glade EriC^^ :)
[10:07] <EriC^^> :)
[10:07] <commander_> Qt is also good i make using qt on windows
[10:08] <EriC^^> nice, never tried qt
[10:10] <ClusTer> الو ؟
[10:10] <linocisco> MonkeyDust, cfhowlett I noticed system problem after every startup and there is button to report problem to fix. but it is not fixed
[10:10] <lotus|xenial> !arabic | ClusTer
[10:11] <ClusTer> no arabic ! Persian !!!
[10:11] <cfhowlett> linocisco, just for fun: plug in a wired mouse to test
[10:11] <cfhowlett> ClusTer, and this is the ENGLISH channel ...
[10:11] <EriC^^> !farisi
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> linocisco  that may simply be a apparmor message, usually it's harmless
[10:11] <EriC^^> !persia
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> !farsi
[10:12] <ClusTer> Ok ; Thank you maste .
[10:12] <ClusTer> master :d
[10:12] <linocisco> cfhowlett,  now with wired mouse
[10:12] <cfhowlett> linocisco, same thing?!
[10:12] <linocisco> MonkeyDust, the message showed at startup as annoying and now I dont know where I could find it again
[10:13] <linocisco> cfhowlett, so far no problem yet. I will do some fast typing. the pointer automatically select some IRC chat text and scroll down or up. but not frequently like before with 15.04
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> linocisco  i agree... scroll down... http://linuxpoison.blogspot.be/2010/10/how-to-disable-apparmor-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[10:15] <Dro> how to copy a directory to an other path without replacing the existing files ?
[10:16] <linocisco> MonkeyDust, how could you be so sure that would be apparmor problem  and Do you think it is safe to remove for security?
[10:16] <commander_> Dro read cp documenation
[10:16] <commander_> Dro, type man cp
[10:17] <Dro> commander_, its ok, the -n option
[10:18] <commander_> Dro,  yeah
[10:20] <heap_> hi, i have ubuntu installed on phy disk where is also windows... is it possible that i dd only linux partitions on new drive.. .and then i need somehow reinstall grub?
[10:21] <EriC^^> heap_: yeah, you can dd the partitions
[10:21] <EriC^^> and then use a live usb to chroot and reinstall grub
[10:22] <EriC^^> if you want you can dd the mbr too and not chroot and reinstall grub
[10:23] <linocisco> hi all , I am going to install local fonts as per guide here http://naingyeminn.com/posts/burmese-keyboard-for-ubuntu-1404/. any comments?
[10:25] <cfhowlett> it's all greek to me ...
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> looks georgian
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> (russia)
[10:25] <Mihasi> Hi guys. Having some trouble getting Optimus to work on my laptop (Intel HD 4400 + NVidia GTX 850M). I'm using the NVidia 355.11 drivers. Whenever I switch cards using prime-select, I need to reboot for it to work. Logout/login gives me an infinite login loop. Any ideas on what might be causing this?
[10:26] <linocisco> cfhowlett, are you replying to me?
[10:26] <cfhowlett> yep
[10:26] <EriC^^> Mihasi: can you show a log of after the login loop?
[10:27] <EriC^^> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ~/.xsession-errors | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:27] <linocisco> cfhowlett, http://paste.ubuntu.com/13021812/
[10:27] <linocisco> cfhowlett, that are only steps I need to follow
[10:28] <cfhowlett> linocisco, if you say so since I couldn't read any of the original text.  does it work?
[10:29] <Mihasi> EriC^^, just a sec.
[10:29] <EriC^^> Mihasi: after it does the login loop, press ctrl+alt+f1 to get to a tty and run the commands
[10:29] <linocisco> cfhowlett, https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=my&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnaingyeminn.com%2Fposts%2Fburmese-keyboard-for-ubuntu-1404%2F&edit-text=&act=url
[10:30] <Mihasi> I only have this laptop at the moment, so I'll need to save the log and restart, BRB.
[10:30] <cfhowlett> linocisco, lol.  nope.  I'm in China so no google.
[10:30] <linocisco> cfhowlett, xie xie
[10:31] <decci> Hello
[10:31] <decci> Anyone having experience with how to write rules in terms of .DEB packaging process
[10:32] <decci> I tried tools like checkinstall which automates the .deb build process but looks like it doesnt have rules writing option
[10:32] <decci> debreate looks great but it is too slow and troubleshooting is complez
[10:34] <Mihasi> Alright EriC^^, the log should be at http://termbin.com/n75a
[10:34] <Mihasi> No ~/.XSession-errors file though.
[10:36] <Mihasi> Doesn't matter whether I switch from intel to nvidia or nvidia to intel. In this case, it was nvidia to intel.
[10:36] <auspetrol> G'day, is someone able to give me a hand figuring out why VLC won't run? I can't find any error messages, if I run it from command line, i get the VLC version line, then return to a prompt. I can't see anything applicable in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg
[10:36] <auspetrol> any ideas?
[10:36] <EriC^^> Mihasi: odd, try dpkg -l | grep $(uname -r) | nc termbin.com 9999
[10:37] <Mihasi> Also, if I switch back to nvidia (the driver originally started with) in the the TTY1 terminal, I can login again in one where X is running.
[10:37] <Mihasi> EriC^^, http://termbin.com/5axt
[10:39] <Mihasi> It seems similar to this problem: https://askubuntu.com/questions/596357/ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-prime-only-works-on-restart-logout-login-doesnt-work
[10:39] <Mihasi> But the whole reason I installed nvidia-prime is because after an upgrade from 15.04 to 15.10 Bumblebee broke.
[10:40] <EriC^^> Mihasi: no idea
[10:41] <lotus|xenial> Mihasi: bumblebee is outdated
[10:41] <lotus|xenial> Mihasi: only use nvidia-prime with an nvidia-driver from your list
[10:41] <lotus|xenial> Mihasi: have you enabled perofmance mode in nvidia-settings?
[10:41] <truepurple> I am trying to install "dupeguru" but I guess I got to compile from source or something, I don't understand what to do
[10:42] <ikonia> truepurple: look for an existing package
[10:42] <auspetrol> wooo! i ran a purge on vlc* and reinstalled it, it workssss
[10:42] <truepurple> not listed
[10:43] <ikonia> truepurple you could raise a request for someone to package on launchpad
[10:43] <truepurple> what is launchpad?
[10:43] <Mihasi> lotus|xenial, Yes, and it works fine. But when I switch to Power Saving Mode (intel driver) and logout, I can't login again (it just shows me the login screen again after I type in my password).
[10:43] <ikonia> the bug/project reporting tool
[10:43] <ikonia> launchpad.net
[10:43] <ikonia> I wouldn't expect someone to pick it up quick though
[10:43] <linocisco> hi all
[10:43] <linocisco> any ruby users here?
[10:44] <ikonia> linocisco: yes, why ?
[10:44] <ikonia> truepurple: there is an ubuntu PPA for it
[10:44] <Mihasi> EriC^^, alright, thanks for trying.
[10:44] <linocisco> ikonia, what to install to run and develop ruby on ubuntu?
[10:44] <EriC^^> Mihasi: np
[10:44] <ikonia> truepurple: what version of ubuntu are you using
[10:44] <diolo> hi
[10:44] <diolo> u are gay
[10:44] <truepurple> Is it really that difficult to do that someone couldn't just tell me what to do? http://www.hardcoded.net/dupeguru/ is the site
[10:44] <ikonia> linocisco: just the ruby binary is all you need, and any frame works you want to use
[10:44] <ikonia> truepurple: what version of ubuntu are you using
[10:45] <linocisco> ikonia, frameworks means rubyonrails?
[10:45] <truepurple> 12.04
[10:45] <ikonia> linocisco: means whatever frame work you want to use
[10:45] <ikonia> truepurple: thats good then, there is already a PPA with pre-build packages I think, one moment
[10:46] <truepurple> Is installing without a package really complicated then?
[10:46] <ikonia> truepurple: yes
[10:46] <ikonia> truepurple: https://launchpad.net/~hsoft/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages
[10:47] <ikonia> truepurple: looks like one of those packages could be what you need, although I'm not sure of the differences between me/pe/se
[10:47] <truepurple> I saw that page earlier, but I wasnt sure which one I needed
[10:47] <truepurple> I tried downloading and using, but I didn't know what to do with it
[10:47] <Ben64> why not use rdfind
[10:47] <Ben64> !info rdfind
[10:47] <ikonia> an even better suggestion Ben64
[10:48] <truepurple> Will that work well for images and videos?
[10:48] <Ben64> it doesn't care what the file is
[10:48] <truepurple> Does it have a graphical interface?
[10:49] <Ben64> not that i know of
[10:49] <ikonia> ahhh dupeguru has multiple versions, me is the music edition
[10:49] <truepurple> Well this one can tell even if its a different type of video or image
[10:49] <ikonia> truepurple: so can rdfind
[10:49] <Ben64> it finds duplicate files, it doesn't matter what they are
[10:50] <truepurple> well I don't see rdfine in package manager either
[10:50] <truepurple> rdfind
[10:51] <ikonia> !info rdfind precise
[10:51] <ikonia> it's there - it's in the universe repo
[10:52] <truepurple> I don't know where universe repo is
[10:52] <ikonia> truepurple: it's part of the standard ubuntu repos
[10:53] <truepurple> On a separate subject, I should probably upgrade to a latter version of ubuntu, how do I backup my current version, and how likely is it to corrupt my system and make it unbootable?
[10:53] <ikonia> truepurple: backup any data you want to an external / seperate device,
[10:54] <ikonia> truepurple: it you follow the upgrade process properly the risk of a problem should be very low,
[10:54] <linocisco> ikonia, how to install ruby on ubuntu? installing from apt or source code?
[10:54] <ubuntu-mate> help
[10:54] <ikonia> linocisco: never use sourcecode, there are solid support packages in the repo
[10:54] <ubuntu-mate> h
[10:54] <ubuntu-mate> help
[10:54] <ubuntu-mate> ?
[10:54] <truepurple> through update manager is proper process?
[10:54] <ubuntu-mate> :h
[10:54] <ubuntu-mate> :?
[10:54] <ikonia> ubuntu-mate: you need tyo ask a question to get help
[10:54] <ubuntu-mate> tyo
[10:54] <ikonia> truepurple: thats right
[10:54] <ikonia> !upgrade | truepurple
[10:55] <ubuntu-mate> ikonia
[10:55] <ubuntu-mate> ls
[10:55] <ubuntu-mate> :q
[10:55] <ubuntu-mate> !help
[10:55] <ikonia> ubuntu-mate: stop -
[10:55] <ikonia> ubuntu-mate: do you need help yes/no
[10:55] <ubuntu-mate> !patience
[10:55] <ubuntu-mate> no
[10:55] <linocisco> ikonia, ok. versions are always different from source code and apt. installing from apt get older version of ruby than from source. but I will follow your way
[10:55] <truepurple> ikonia, why should I backup regular data on a separate drive? I wouldn't think nonsystem files could be corrupted by system file update
[10:56] <ikonia> truepurple: file systems won't be corrupted
[10:56] <truepurple> ikonia, but you said to backup files on a separate drive
[10:56] <ikonia> truepurple: however, if you mess up your install, getting the data back from a seperate device can often be easier, quicker, if you have to fix/reinstall the broken os
[10:57] <Mihasi> EriC^^, hmm, is the bbswitch module supposed to be enabled when using nvidia-prime? I thought it was a bumblebee-module, but when I try to uninstall bbswitch-dkms it also removes nvidia-prime...
[10:57] <truepurple> ikonia, can't I just backup on existing drive so it can fall back to previous version if new version was somehow corrupt?
[10:57] <ikonia> truepurple: you'd need to take an image based backup, using something like clonezilla, but you need to do that from external media, not while the system is running
[10:58] <ubuntu-mate> oh it's an irc client! cool!!!
[10:59] <truepurple> ikonia, Obviously that would work, but that's too hard core, isn't there a more basic backup? I know I have fallen back to previous when I have had system problems before, without cloning or shit
[10:59] <EriC^^> Mihasi: no idea, you could try apt-cache depends nvidia-prime to see what it depends on
[10:59] <ikonia> truepurple: no need to swear, please don't
[10:59] <truepurple> besides, I currently lack a separate drive
[10:59] <ubuntu-mate> did i swear?
[10:59] <truepurple> I didn't realize I swore
[10:59] <truepurple> What did I say?
[10:59] <ikonia> truepurple: there is no "fall back" option for the upgrade process sadly, the best advice, is to take a snapshot, you are of course free to use whatevrer backup method you feel best
[11:00] <ubuntu-mate> what is irc exactly?
[11:00] <ikonia> !irc > ubuntu-mate
[11:00] <truepurple> chat service obviously
[11:00] <truepurple> this is irc
[11:00] <ubuntu-mate> oh hold on there is a something on the side here
[11:00] <truepurple> That's the private message
[11:00] <ubuntu-mate> got it
[11:01] <ubuntu-mate> why does it say i am "ubuntu-mate" but not everybody else is "ubuntu-mate"?
[11:01] <heap_> EriC^^: the worst thing is that i cant copy mbr because partition numbers got changed.
[11:01] <heap_> but is there any simple step how to reinstall grub?
[11:01] <ikonia> ubuntu-mate: it's your nickname, I suggest you read the message the automated bot "ubottu" sent you
[11:01] <truepurple> You assign a handle to go by, if you didn't assign a handle, the IRC client would default one for you
[11:02] <ubuntu-mate> i closed it already
[11:02] <truepurple> I guess your IRC client is ubuntu-mate, never heard of it though
[11:02] <linocisco> ikonia, git clone git://github.com/ruby/ruby.git ?
[11:02] <ikonia> linocisco: why would you do that?
[11:02] <Guest13059> dears! how to find mac address of my PC here????
[11:02] <truepurple> handle=nickname
[11:02] <EriC^^> heap_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#via_ChRoot
[11:02] <ikonia> Guest13059: ifconfig
[11:02] <Ben64> Guest13059: ifconfig
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-mate  type   /nick blah     to change your nickname
[11:03] <truepurple> hehe
[11:03] <linocisco> ikonia, apt (Debian or Ubuntu)
[11:03] <linocisco> Debian GNU/Linux and Ubuntu use the apt package manager. You can use it like this:
[11:03] <linocisco> $ sudo apt-get install ruby-full
[11:03] <linocisco> As of writing, the ruby-full package provides Ruby 1.9.3, which is an old stable release, on Debian and Ubuntu.
[11:03] <Guest13059> ikonia, Ben64: Thank You so much...
[11:03] <ikonia> linocisco: why are you typing this to me ?
[11:03] <blah> actually i just broke the intsaller and must close this thing now
[11:03] <Ben64> linocisco: if you're just going to ignore advice, why ask for it?
[11:03] <linocisco> ikonia, it is what ruby website said
[11:03] <ikonia> linocisco: but why are you telling me ?
[11:04] <ikonia> linocisco: what do you actually want from me ?
[11:04] <linocisco> ikonia, some said to install from git (that is what I dont know), some said to install from tarball, some said package manager. what is best? i m so confused
[11:05] <ikonia> linocisco: use the package manager, as I told you earlier, that way a.) you don't have to maintain it yourself b.) you know it's going to be compatible with your distro
[11:05] <linocisco> ikonia, ok
[11:05] <truepurple> package manager is best if you can
[11:05] <truepurple> software center is nice too, easy that way
[11:06] <mlvmhn> my desktop hangs 2 times during a 10 min period, what do i do??
[11:06] <truepurple> ikonia, If somehow upgrading corrupted my OS, would that mean I couldn't access files in home or system? Like could I fetch bookmarks etc from it?
[11:07] <ikonia> truepurple: it depends what happens, the data would still be there, but if you can't boot your OS - how can you access it ?
[11:07] <mlvmhn> i am running qBittorrent in the bcakground, ist that the problem?
[11:08] <DalekSec> !info ruby2.0 trusty
[11:08] <Ben64> mlvmhn: maybe if its causing a lot of io
[11:08] <truepurple> ikonia, I don't understand the question. If I booted from a ubutuntu live installed from a flash drive, could I access said files?
[11:09] <ikonia> truepurple: yes, that should be fine
[11:09] <ikonia> truepurple: as I said, the data would still be there,
[11:09] <truepurple> ikonia, And the data won't be permission locked or something?
[11:09] <heap_> EriC^^: thx
[11:10] <ikonia> truepurple: permissions don't matter,
[11:10] <ikonia> truepurple: the only thing to consider is if you have encypted the files with a key
[11:10] <mlvmhn> what is io?
[11:11] <truepurple> I've tried accessing files from a USB flash drive boot and I couldn't do stuff with things from the HDD because everything was locked up
[11:11] <ikonia> truepurple: thats to vague a explaination to comment on, sorry
[11:11] <ikonia> truepurple: take whatever backups you feel are best before you upgrade, it's that simple
[11:11] <Ben64> mlvmhn: input output
[11:12] <truepurple> ikonia, but you said it won't damage stuff like bookmarks etc
[11:12] <ikonia> truepurple: correct,
[11:12] <mlvmhn> k, can my system be too hot?
[11:12] <ikonia> truepurple: it doesn't actually mess with the file system
[11:12] <Ben64> mlvmhn: sure?
[11:13] <truepurple> ikonia, So why might I want any backup other then a live usb flash of the OS?
[11:13] <ikonia> truepurple: don't back it up then
[11:13] <ikonia> it's up to you
[11:13] <truepurple> ikonia,  is there a reason to though
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> mlvmhn  yes, i solved it by installing thermald and indicator-cpufreq
[11:13] <ikonia> truepurple: backing up data before doing any sort of major system change/upgrade is just good practice,
[11:13] <ikonia> if you don't want to back it up, don't do it
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> mlvmhn  14.04 here ... 15.04 and after has thermald installed by default
[11:14] <truepurple> ikonia, If there is no risk, then there is no point in security precautions of lack of risk. It's like wearing a seatbelt in a parked car for the good practice of wearing a seatbelt while in a car.
[11:15] <truepurple> If there is a risk, I'd like to know about it
[11:15] <ikonia> truepurple: then don't do it, if given you the reason why and the situations,
[11:15] <ikonia> truepurple: it's up to you what you do
[11:15] <mlvmhn> k, but shall i wait for a newer LTS?
[11:16] <truepurple> ikonia, I don't feel you have given me a reason why. "good practice" doesn't mean anything to me. I don't need to practice copying files. It's not a "skill" that needs "practice"
[11:16] <ikonia> truepurple: we are not getting into your stand meta-discussions
[11:17] <truepurple> ikonia, I just want to know if there is a reason to copy files
[11:17] <Ben64> truepurple: then don't do any backups! we'll be glad to help you recover files if something happens
[11:17] <ikonia> truepurple: I've explained the pros of backing up to seperate devices, I've explained that it's also good practice before making major system changes, if you disagree, thats fine, carry on
[11:17] <ikonia> truepurple: you have been told how to use this channel many times now, and we will not get into one of your situations of meta-discussions
[11:17] <ikonia> backup, or don't back up, the choice is yours
[11:18] <truepurple> ikonia, You said such a update won't corrupt such files, which eliminates reason to backup
[11:18] <ikonia> truepurple: no it doesn't
[11:18] <truepurple> Then what is the reason?
[11:18] <truepurple> I missed your clear explanation, please repeat it
[11:18] <ikonia> truepurple: I've already told you, if there is a problem with the upgrade it is easier to recover, fix, or even re-install if you have your files safe on a different device
[11:20] <truepurple> Ah, so if I was willing to reinstall a new one from a flash drive, then that should take care of all of such concerns?
[11:20] <ikonia> truepurple: what ?
[11:21] <truepurple> The reason for backup is to repair the OS if something goes wrong, and thus the only backup I would want would be that of system files. If I make a live flash, then if something went wrong, I could install from the flash and fix everything, no reason for backup then, right?
[11:22] <ikonia> truepurple: it depends what files you want to keep
[11:22] <truepurple> I don't know what you mean
[11:22] <ikonia> truepurple: you have a config file in /etc - if you re-install that is gone
[11:22] <ikonia> truepurple: do you want file, if so, back it up
[11:22] <truepurple> I wouldn't want to keep any nonpersonal files that I dont need to
[11:22] <ikonia> if not, carry on
[11:23] <vin_> hello
[11:23] <ikonia> if you have /home on a seperate partition, then the risk to that specific data is low, however, if you want to avoid risk, back it up
[11:23] <ikonia> if not, carry on
[11:23] <vin_> I have an issue with ububtu 15.04....
[11:23] <vin_> I am running 15.04 on my  Dell Latitude E6510
[11:24] <vin_> I see that I cannot enter the boot setup using the F12 option
[11:24] <truepurple> ikonia, all data on the OS partition is possible to be corrupted if I update to a latter ubuntu version?
[11:24] <vin_> this sort of blocks me from either reinstalling or upgrading the OS, because there is some issue wrt wifi connecitivity as well
[11:24] <ikonia> truepurple: there is a risk to any data - as package upgrades will replace files $X with version $X+1
[11:24] <vin_> can anyone help me with a workaround?
[11:26] <vin_> the boot option from DVD does not seem to work at all....the DVD is fine as has been tested on a different macchine
[11:26] <truepurple> ikonia, hmm? a system upgrade could result in say video file corruption on a separate partition or even a separate drive? You said "any data"
[11:26] <ikonia> truepurple: I've told you 6 times now "no"
[11:26] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:26] <truepurple> What specific data is at risk when upgrading?
[11:28] <heap_> may i dd smaller partition to bigger? everything will be okay?
[11:28] <ikonia> heap_: no
[11:28] <heap_> hm
[11:28] <heap_> i thought so its smaller to bigger
[11:29] <heap_> then i need to create somehow identical partitions using gparted based on the number of the blocks
[11:30] <Ben64> heap_: what exactly is your goal
[11:30] <heap_> i just need to virtualize phy ubuntu install
[11:30] <heap_> so i have that install on 2 partitions...
[11:31] <heap_> i booted live in vm .. now im going to create partitions .. dd old ones on vm ones and reinstall grub
[11:31] <ikonia> heap_: where you the person asking how to make a physical install on vmware last night ?
[11:31] <heap_> ikonia: not sure
[11:31] <ikonia> heap_: you're not sure if you where asking how to make a physical install virtual in vmware ?
[11:32] <heap_> ikonia: i dont know if i asked here
[11:32] <heap_> becasue i was asking something #vmware also
[11:32] <ikonia> heap_: I told you to use the vmware physical to virtual converter tools, did you do that ?
[11:33] <heap_> ikonia: it doesnt work.
[11:33] <heap_> ikonia: it works only with ESX
[11:33] <ikonia> right, so you're not using esx, you're using some workstation install ?
[11:33] <heap_> yes
[11:34] <ikonia> heap_: so make a disk image of the install, try to boot it and then fix the os issues that creates
[11:34] <ikonia> heap_: the guys in #vmware should have a process for this well documented
[11:35] <heap_> but thing is that install is on various partitions..
[11:35] <heap_> i cant dd whole drive..
[11:35] <ikonia> of course you can
[11:36] <Apachez> the 15.04 to 15.10 upgrade went just fine, only issue (which already seems logged) is google chrome cannot detect default browser
[11:36] <heap_> ikonia: u can but u waste space with that various partitions
[11:36] <ikonia> heap_: nope
[11:36] <heap_> hm
[11:37] <heap_> so how should i do it?
[11:37] <heap_> dd /dev/sda?
[11:37] <ikonia> heap_: exactly how I said]
[11:37] <heap_> ikonia: whole drive as /dev/sda?
[11:38] <ikonia> heap_: hang on - all your interested in is the root partition, do that, boot that, then deal with the additional partitions seperate
[11:38] <ikonia> heap_: the guys in #vmware will have a process for that
[11:38] <heap_> i asked but doesnt looks like
[11:38] <heap_> its getting complicated
[11:38] <ikonia> yes, it is
[11:38] <heap_> all what i need is exact same partition sizes...
[11:38] <heap_> and just dd and reisntall grub
[11:39] <ikonia> heap_: it doesn't work like that
[11:39] <heap_> why not?
[11:39] <heap_> eh?
[11:39] <heap_> i must.
[11:39] <heap_> it
[11:39] <ikonia> heap_: ok then do what you feel is best
[11:39] <heap_> ikonia: you are saying something with no argumetns?
[11:39] <ikonia> I'm not arguing anything
[11:39] <heap_> if u mirror 2 partitons and reinstall grub what else do you need?
[11:39] <heap_> then you are saying it wont work.
[11:40] <ikonia> carry on then
[11:40] <heap_> eh
[11:40] <heap_> how can i create identical partitions (based on the block size)?
[11:40] <ikonia> you're not creating partitions
[11:40] <ikonia> you're creating an image
[11:40] <heap_> dude
[11:40] <heap_> i boot vm usinz live.
[11:41] <ikonia> you boot using live ?
[11:41] <heap_> i have to create partitions where i dd old ones..
[11:41] <heap_> .inside that drive etc..
[11:41] <heap_> inside that vm
[11:41] <ikonia> you're not making any sense
[11:41] <ikonia> I suggest you carry on as you see best
[11:41] <heap_> ikonia: how else you want to chroot and reinstall grub if u dont have alive?
[11:41] <ikonia> heap_: you're way ahead of where you need to be
[11:42] <heap_> and i think my question if i can dd smaller on bigger is correct statement
[11:42] <ikonia> then do it
[11:43] <heap_> then i dont know why you are saying something
[11:43] <heap_> make ppl distracted etc
[11:43] <ikonia> no, I'm saying thats not what you need to do, not distracting, you disagree, so carry on
[11:44] <heap_> so what i need to do then>?
[11:44] <msev-> Do powered usb hubs disallow power transfer from computer. So they exclusivly get their power from a power outlet?
[11:44] <heap_> apart your suggestion to dd whole DRIVE
[11:45] <ikonia> as I said, make an image of the root file system, boot that image, fix the OS, then either grow the file system to encompass the missing file systems, or make seperate disk images for ther other partitions
[11:45] <heap_> ok
[11:47] <heap_> and as i said there is grub and multiple partitions so if i create image of /root fs it wont boot without grub reinstall
[11:47] <heap_> i guess
[11:50] <ikonia> heap_: grub is only interested in /boot
[11:53] <heap_> ikonia: but i need mbr somewhere to boot system
[11:53] <heap_> and my mbr is on sda1 and /root is on sda5
[11:54] <ikonia> heap_: your mbr should be on sda
[11:54] <ikonia> not sad1
[11:54] <ikonia> sda1
[11:54] <heap_> ok sorry sda
[11:54] <auronandace> heap_: no, the mbr is at the beginning of sda, not a partition
[11:54] <heap_> so in case i create image only from sda5 where is root / then i need to put mbr somewhere
[11:54] <ikonia> heap_: so again - you just want your root file system
[11:55] <heap_> ikonia:yes
[11:55] <heap_> http://pastie.org/10519774
[11:56] <pwca> hi, is there any way to get a list of installed programs and import this to another installation of Ubuntu?
[11:56] <heap_> as i said root is on disk3s5 and mbr on disk3
[11:57] <ikonia> heap_: you're making this so compelx, I don't know why this is hard to grasp
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> pwca  http://paste.ubuntu.com/13022330/
[11:57] <ikonia> just take an image of the root file system, thats all you need as you'll to make adjustments to the OS
[11:58] <heap_> ikonia: im saying i dont know if it will boot up
[11:58] <heap_> in case of missing mbr
[11:58] <ikonia> heap_: why would it not ?
[11:58] <heap_> and confused grub
[11:58] <ikonia> heap_: put grub on it then
[11:58] <heap_> because no mbr and grub is on different partition.
[11:58] <ikonia> grub is on a different partition ?
[11:59] <ikonia> so you have / and /boot on seperate partitions ?
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> pwca  mind: that trick only works for programs installed from the repos, not for ppa's
[11:59] <heap_> no
[11:59] <ubuntu175> is anyone running ubuntu on a newer system like with an nvidia gtx 970(m) or intel skylake?
[11:59] <ikonia> then grub is not on a seperate partition
[11:59] <pwca> MonkeyDust: think I can install the non-repo stuff manually. thank you!
[11:59] <heap_> i dont know where is grub
[11:59] <heap_> if mbr is connected with it or not
[11:59] <ikonia> heap_: its in /boot
[11:59] <ikonia> as I've said 3 times
[11:59] <ikonia> and the mbr is used to boot/call grub
[11:59] <heap_> yes
[11:59] <heap_> in that case
[11:59] <heap_> with no mbr
[12:00] <heap_> who is going to call the grub
[12:00] <ikonia> then re-install grub into the vm once you've taken the image
[12:00] <ikonia> or take a copy of the first 512 blocks of the disk
[12:01] <heap_> if i take that copy 512 blocks copy should i dd it on the image with root?
[12:01] <heap_> i think to reinstall grub will be less pain
[12:01] <ikonia> that would be simpler
[12:02] <heap_> of course u need a live boot for that
[12:04] <no_mr_black> anyone heard of a machine only allows windows os to boot?
[12:04] <ikonia> no_mr_black: nothing to do with ubuntu, so nothing to do with this channel
[12:04] <mlvmhn> which is the latest LTS?
[12:04] <no_mr_black> was trying to install ubuntu
[12:05] <ikonia> mlvmhn: 14.04
[12:05] <syg> can anyone help me setup gmail notification on my ubuntu 15.10?
[12:06] <heap_> ikonia:  so just chroot /mnt/root; grub-install /dev/sda ; update-grub ; thats it?
[12:06] <ikonia> !grub2 > heap_
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> !info checkgmail | syg
[12:06] <mlvmhn> k, can qBittorrent cause my system to hang?
[12:07] <ikonia> mlvmhn: you've been told earlier, maybe
[12:08] <syg> MonkeyDust: this doesn't seem to work right on 15.10
[12:10] <syg> it loaded once, i entered my credentials, now it just crashes without fail MonkeyDust
[12:10] <Ubik_> hello  cannot change input device [french] in lubuntu 15  nothing in keyboard settings for input layout
[12:10] <vin_> can someone please address my query?
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> vin_  hit the up arrow to repeat it
[12:13] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys hey there
[12:13] <mrtAkdeniz> I've a problem about hostname
[12:14] <mrtAkdeniz> i changed my hostname
[12:14] <vin_> @MonkeyDust I am actually not able to boot from CD ROM in my laptop Dell Latitude E6510 which has ubuntu 15.04 installed....I would like to reinstall the OS as there is some issue with WiFi access for 802.11n....but due to this CD ROM issue I am stuck...I cannot even go to  the boot options using F12...
[12:14] <mrtAkdeniz> my hostname -f returns "roomworks.site" which is my domain
[12:14] <mlvmhn> when will the next LTS be released?
[12:14] <auronandace> !hostname | mrtAkdeniz
[12:14] <mrtAkdeniz> but when I try to send email with roundcube, it says that : http://pastie.org/private/kxajwxojdzbfuinrycszmw
[12:14] <ikonia> mlvmhn: -f is fullly qualified
[12:14] <mlvmhn> for?
[12:15] <ikonia> mlvmhn: sorry, not you
[12:15] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: -f is fully qualified
[12:15] <mrtAkdeniz> ikonia, auronandace yeah i know. i changed them both. and hostname and hostname -f returns what I need to see
[12:15] <mlvmhn> is there a program for checking the health on my esktop?
[12:15] <mrtAkdeniz> ikonia, i know mate.. but if you check the log which i pasted, you'll understand me.. :\
[12:15] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: thats nothing to do with your hostname
[12:16] <MonkeyDust> vin_  that F12 issue is not ubuntu related, i guess...
[12:16] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: thats the external mail server rejecting you as you don't have a fully qualified ARPA address
[12:16] <mrtAkdeniz> it seeing room.site which is my old hostname..
[12:16] <vin_> @MonkeyDust I am looking for a workaround to actually  boot from CD
[12:16] <mrtAkdeniz> ikonia, http://pastie.org/10519808
[12:16] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: how did you set the hostname ?
[12:16] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: you don't set the hostname with the hostname command
[12:16] <mrtAkdeniz> by changing etc/hosts and etc/hostname
[12:17] <ikonia> you need to reboot after you've done that
[12:17] <mrtAkdeniz> after that reboot and "sudo service hostname restart"
[12:17] <ikonia> err no
[12:17] <ikonia> just reboot
[12:17] <ikonia> hostname is not a service
[12:17] <mrtAkdeniz> yeah ubuntu told me same :\
[12:17] <mrtAkdeniz> ok let me reboot again
[12:18] <mrtAkdeniz> ok reboot is done
[12:18] <mrtAkdeniz> hostname and hostname -f still return my domain name
[12:18] <mrtAkdeniz> not room.site
[12:18] <ikonia> hostname -f is your fully qualitied domain
[12:19] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: have you rebooted ?
[12:19] <mrtAkdeniz> ikonia, yeah
[12:19] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: show me the output of "uname -a" please
[12:19] <mrtAkdeniz> Linux roomworks.site 3.13.0-57-generic #95-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 19 09:28:15 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[12:19] <mlvmhn> is there any goos system tools for ubuntu for checking the health on the desktop??
[12:19] <mlvmhn> good
[12:19] <mrtAkdeniz> mlvmhn, check ubuntu system monitor
[12:20] <ikonia> mlvmhn: so your hostname has correctly changed then
[12:20] <ikonia> oops
[12:20] <ikonia> mlvmhn: sorry not you
[12:20] <ikonia> mlvmhn: so that is your hostname rootworks,site
[12:20] <ikonia> mlvmhn: ahh, sorry again, not you
[12:20] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: your hostname is roomworks.site
[12:20] <vin_> MnkeyDust: OK...
[12:20] <mrtAkdeniz> ikonia, it says while trying to sent : SMTP Error (454): Failed to add recipient "mert.akdeniz@egnity.com" (4.7.1 <mert.akdeniz@egnity.com>: Relay access denied).
[12:20] <mrtAkdeniz> and on logs
[12:20] <mlvmhn> ikonia; stop drinking LOL ;)
[12:21] <mlvmhn> is ubuntu system monitor included in the OS?
[12:21] <mrtAkdeniz> http://pastie.org/private/q84xcxt6kej4ydzvoprhg
[12:21] <mrtAkdeniz> mlvmhn, on ubuntu desktop it should be
[12:21] <vin_> MonkeyDust:  Since I am stuck because of not knowing whether the current BIOS setting is to boot from the CD as the primary option, is there a way I can check/change this from ubuntu?
[12:21] <mrtAkdeniz> on server idk, my sysdev doing this stuff
[12:22] <Ubik_> hello  cannot change input device [french] in lubuntu 15  nothing in keyboard settings for input layout
[12:22] <mlvmhn> found it, but i can not run any scans?
[12:23] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: please show me the output of the command "hostname"  - just "hostname"
[12:23] <mrtAkdeniz> root@roomworks:/var/log# hostname
[12:23] <mrtAkdeniz> roomworks.site
[12:23] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: now hostname -f
[12:23] <mrtAkdeniz> root@roomworks:/var/log# hostname -f
[12:23] <mrtAkdeniz> roomworks.site
[12:24] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: what is in the postfix config file
[12:24] <mrtAkdeniz> which part?
[12:24] <ikonia> and what address is 82.196.10.221
[12:24] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: for the hostname
[12:24] <mrtAkdeniz> ikonia, myhostname = roomworks.site
[12:25] <mrtAkdeniz> and this ip is my server's ip
[12:25] <mave_> hi, anyone familiar with this error on first boot after a fresh install of 15.10? ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xx$ does not exist
[12:25] <mave_> 14.04 install fine
[12:25] <mrtAkdeniz> ifconfig confirms that
[12:26] <ikonia> so if you do nslookup 82.196.10.211 what do you get ?
[12:26] <mrtAkdeniz> ikonia, http://pastie.org/10519824
[12:26] <mrtAkdeniz> that should be problem..
[12:27] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: there is your answer then
[12:27] <mrtAkdeniz> ikonia, sorry but really did not get the answer yet :P
[12:27] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: your reverse lookup is wrong
[12:27] <mrtAkdeniz> now what is wrong, what is this "room.site" part? where it came from?
[12:28] <mrtAkdeniz> hmm
[12:29] <Mneuro> Is it possible to disable mouse acceleration in Ubuntu 15.10?
[12:31] <mrtAkdeniz> ikonia, should I change my resolv.conf file?
[12:31] <mrtAkdeniz> as a newbie, I googled "change reverse lookup" and it came with nothing
[12:31] <mrtAkdeniz> just dig, host and dnslookup codes
[12:33] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: if you're new - why are you trying to setup a mail server ?
[12:33] <ikonia> that is not something for the inexperienced
[12:33] <mrtAkdeniz> I'm a software developer and trying to create a new server for myself
[12:33] <mrtAkdeniz> like publishing works etc
[12:33] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: putting a mail server on the web is not a "toy"
[12:34] <mrtAkdeniz> yeah i saw that :\ ikonia
[12:34] <mrtAkdeniz> but I installed vimbadmin and getting mails fine
[12:34] <cfhowlett> mrtAkdeniz, better served in the #ubuntu-server channel perhaps?
[12:34] <mrtAkdeniz> only problem is sending..
[12:34] <mrtAkdeniz> omg cfhowlett sorry :(
[12:34] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: that is not a solution
[12:34] <mrtAkdeniz> you are right
[12:34] <mrtAkdeniz> ikonia, what you refer with "that"?
[12:35] <ikonia> vimbadmin
[12:35] <mrtAkdeniz> for what?
[12:35] <ikonia> use
[12:35] <mrtAkdeniz> i installed it to create mail accounts and control them
[12:35] <mrtAkdeniz> like using phpmyadmin
[12:35] <ikonia> and yet your mail server is not working.....
[12:35] <mrtAkdeniz> yeah :\
[12:35] <mave_> hi, anyone familiar with this error on first boot after a fresh install of 15.10? ALERT! /dev/disk/by-uuid/xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xx$ does not exist
[12:35] <mave_> 14.04 installs fine
[12:36] <Ben64> mave_: whatever partition doesn't exist
[12:36] <mave_> it does exist with the uuid mentioned
[12:36] <mrtAkdeniz> ikonia, I spend my whole night for it and make getting mails work
[12:37] <Ben64> it didn't when the error was shown
[12:37] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: and yet - it's not working
[12:37] <mrtAkdeniz> i dont want to stop right now.. i mean i don't want to break up
[12:37] <mrtAkdeniz> getting mails are working o.O
[12:37] <mrtAkdeniz> problem appearing while sending
[12:37] <mrtAkdeniz> and i think it is because that dns lookup
[12:37] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: again - you are doing this without understanding the mail system or thge basics
[12:37] <k1l_> systemd is very picky when it comes to fstab entries. (since 15.04 ubuntu uses systemd)
[12:37] <ikonia> this is not something you should be doing as a toy - putting a mail server on the internet is not a "play thing"
[12:38] <mrtAkdeniz> ikonia, why?
[12:38] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: you can cause problems
[12:38] <mrtAkdeniz> without playing, how can I learn it?
[12:38] <mrtAkdeniz> on the web or on the my server?
[12:38] <ikonia> mrtAkdeniz: both
[12:38] <mrtAkdeniz> :\ ok
[12:38] <mrtAkdeniz> thanks for your time
[12:39] <Mneuro> Is it possible to disable mouse acceleration on Ubuntu 15.10?
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> Mneuro  in dconf-editor, find motion-acceleration
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> Mneuro  there's also org.gnome.desktop.a11y.keyboard > mousekeys-accel-time
[12:45] <Mneuro> how do i edit that? gconf-editor?
[12:46] <MonkeyDust> Mneuro  no, install dconf-editor, open it and then ctrl-f, find 'mouse'
[12:47] <Mneuro> thanks!
[12:51] <Mneuro> so mousekeys-accel-time turns off mouse acceleration?  set it to 0?
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> Mneuro  no, my mistake, that's for the mousekeys on your keyboard
[12:52] <Mneuro> no problem.  which setting in dconf does mouse acceleration
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> Mneuro  i guess it's in org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.mouse
[12:55] <Mneuro> That just has double-click, drag-threshold and locate-pointer
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> Mneuro  i also found 'motion-treshold'... if that's not it, i'm out of ideas
[12:58] <Mneuro> alright no prob, thanks for trying
[13:02] <jml32ljl2> how do i enable universe and backports via a command for ubuntu?
[13:04] <heap_> hi
[13:04] <heap_> how can i create partitions based on the block size?
[13:04] <Windows3> my wireless only works after I suspend the computer. What should I do?
[13:07] <n1ck7> I've recently switched over to Ubuntu and I'm having some issues with my wireless adapter. It's an Atheros AR9485, and the problem I'm experiencing is the device randomly shuts off and stops working. The only way to connect to the internet again is by a restart
[13:07] <n1ck7> I posted in this thread with details of the output of dmesg - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2298681&page=2&p=13382668#post13382668
[13:07] <n1ck7> Can anyone help me? :)
[13:08] <mrtAkdeniz> Guys, how can I change the wrong hostname on "nslookup IP" ?
[13:08] <mrtAkdeniz> should I change the DNS?
[13:11] <sreejesh> hi
[13:12] <libracious> i have a small problem on ubuntu 15.10 i am getting this error W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/apt-fast/stable/ubuntu/dists/wily/main/binary-amd64/Packages
[13:12] <libracious> i added the repo using sudo add-apt-repository ppa:saiarcot895/myppa
[13:12] <libracious> the repo works when on 15.04
[13:13] <libracious> so is there any way i can use vivid package and not wily
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | libracious
[13:19] <libracious> this ppa is not availble for wily so can i use force ubuntu to install vivid release instead of wily
[13:20] <ChargedLight> Hi. I currently have Windows and Ubuntu installed on the same drive (SSD 128GB). I installed windows first and then added ubuntu. But now i'm running out of free space on my ubuntu partition. Basially i need free space to install virtual machine, so it can be accessible when i work in Ubuntu. I've resized window's partition, so now i have unallocated partition (10 GB size) and now i need to mount it somehow. Here is the screenshot from gparted - ht
[13:20] <ChargedLight> tp://joxi.ru/4Akol09Hv3lnAq
[13:20] <ChargedLight> Question: How to mount this unallocated space so it will be visible under Ubuntu and i can use it?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> ChargedLight, you have to join it to your sda5.
[13:21] <ChargedLight> yes, but how. And is it safe? i
[13:23] <cfhowlett> quickest way: delete linux-swap.  join all the allocated space to sda5.  reassign 4 gb to swap.
[13:24] <ChargedLight> cfhowlett, should i do all operations with partitions when booted from live usb?
[13:25] <cfhowlett> ChargedLight, yes.  ONLY from the live usb
[13:25] <ChargedLight> ok, then another question ) how to boot from usb when i currently have grub2 installed. Bios don't see my usb stick as a boot option
[13:26] <cfhowlett> ChargedLight, are you on live session now??
[13:27] <ChargedLight> cfhowlett, i am booted with my ubuntu now
[13:27] <ChargedLight> not live usb
[13:32] <ItsMrb> Hi All, A quick question for everyone. I have a minecraft server and I would like to start the minecraft.jar in a screen (Using screen -dmS mc java -Xmx1024M -Xms1024M -jar /srv/mc/minecraft_server.1.8.7.jar nogui) Hower the screen starts but terminates after a few seconds. I am planning to use that command on start up so I do nt have to start it by hand on reboot. Can anyone suggest a way to stop it terminating? Many Thamnks
[13:32] <ItsMrb> thanks*
[13:32] <jml32ljl2> anyone know if i can `sudo add-apt-repository trusty-backports` on ubuntu 14.04 with univserse enabled?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> ChargedLight, unless the USB is faulty, bios should see it.  try a different USB
[13:33] <bekks> jml32ljl2: why wouldnt you?
[13:33] <jml32ljl2> i need the backports enabled and installed
[13:33] <jml32ljl2> automating it within travis
[13:33] <ChargedLight> cfhowlett, both ubuntu and windows see it. It's not the trouble with usb, it's because grub2 installed
[13:33] <bekks> jml32ljl2: And?
[13:33] <jml32ljl2> so it should work?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> ChargedLight, grub2 should have no  issue either.
[13:34] <jml32ljl2> i need backports to install the 'shellcheck' packaged
[13:34] <jml32ljl2> i think the backports repository has the 'shellcheck' package
[13:34] <bekks> jml32ljl2: Then why dont you just enable it then?
[13:34] <jml32ljl2> i can't do it via nano
[13:34] <jml32ljl2> since, it's an automated travis build
[13:35] <jml32ljl2> used for linting, and unit tests
[13:35] <jml32ljl2> so i need to bake in the command to the config file
[13:35] <jml32ljl2> in .travis.yml, which is run on the travis server on the cloud
[13:36] <jml32ljl2> `sudo add-apt-repository trusty-backports` yields "Error: 'trusty-backports' invalid"
[13:36] <jml32ljl2> do i need a ppa?
[13:44] <BluesKaj> jml32ljl2, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:nameofppa-ppa/name is the command
[13:45] <cfhowlett> ChargedLight, since you're booting the live session, grub won't even see your USB.
[13:47] <ChargedLight> cfhowlett, what do you mean by live session? I've create bootable usb under windows (using unetbootin). After that i'm restarting my computer and getting to the grub2 screen. I have 4 optaions - Ubuntu, Ubuntu with options, Windows, Enter settings (BIOS)
[13:47] <cfhowlett> ChargedLight, when booting the live usb, reboot, immediately go into bios and tell it to boot the USB.  if you are getting the grub MENU, something is wrong.
[13:48] <friendofkiwi> hello guys :)
[13:49] <mikeyuf_> Hi there, newb here, trying to install server 14.04, hyper-V in windows 10, Anyone have a good guide to getting networking to work, specifically external access.  Added legacy adapter, connected to external switch but ifconfig -a only shows lo (loopback)
[13:49] <sallu> Hi
[13:49] <sallu> anyone using ubuntu in uefi mode enabled
[13:49] <sallu> ?
[13:50] <bekks> sallu: I bet a lot of people do.
[13:50] <Osirez> sallu: yea, it's pretty common to use UEFI for a newer computer
[13:50] <sallu> hmmmmmmmmm
[13:50] <friendofkiwi> anyone know how to get su access gui ?
[13:51] <sallu> wait let me call my university mate , he is teasing me to tell him all
[13:51] <sallu> he bought laptop very much expensive
[13:51] <sallu> wait a sec
[13:52] <byabbablabb_> friendofkiwi: su access to gui?
[13:52] <sallu> Osirez, well i am here now, he is coming here at this irc channel
[13:53] <sallu> Osirez, can you tell me , are you using the same
[13:53] <friendofkiwi> im trying to install xampp, i downloaded it manually, changed to executable, and now i need su privilege in gui mode :)
[13:53] <Osirez> sallu: yes I use UEFI
[13:53] <asd> hello
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> !xampp | friendofkiwi
[13:54] <sallu> Osirez, ok ,
[13:55] <sallu> Osirez, ok i tell you
[13:55] <asd> hello people
[13:55] <asd> i want you to say
[13:55] <asd> these words
[13:55] <cfhowlett> asd, ask your ubuntu questions.
[13:56] <asd> and you will be safe in byound
[13:56] <cfhowlett> asd this is ubuntu support.  stay on the topic please.
[13:56] <friendofkiwi> lotuspsychje: thanks :)
[13:57] <Osirez> sallu: Go for it. What's the question?
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> friendofkiwi: np
[13:57] <asd> Ashhadu Alla Ellaha Ella Allah WA'na Muhamadan RAsoul lo Allah
[13:57] <cfhowlett> asd, wrong channel.  consider yourself added to my /ignore
[13:58] <mikeyuf_> If ifconfig -a only displays info on the lo adapter, does that mean it doesn't detect a network card? lspci returns an Ethernet controller?
[14:00] <akik> mikeyuf_: i followed this guide to share the network connection of the hyper-v host. you still need to have a network interface in your vm. http://blog.areflyen.no/2012/10/10/setting-up-internet-access-for-hyper-v-with-nat-in-windows-8/
[14:01] <mikeyuf_> akik:  That you for replying, I found a similiar guide with no luck, but maybe like you said, it is because
[14:01] <mikeyuf_> ifconfig -a only displays lo
[14:03] <akik> mikeyuf_: i think there are two types of network adapters in hyper-v manage4, legacy and new
[14:04] <akik> god i hate writing on a touch screen
[14:04] <mikeyuf_> akik: I have been messing with legacy all this time.
[14:09] <kubast2> Hey ,do you know how to "send" usb device into ubuntu virtualbox guest? I have installed vbox guest additions and choosed usb device on win host. Device was recognized for a short while on ubuntu ,but it no longer is and no matter what I do it's not seen in lsusb anymore.
[14:09] <kubast2> *I installed vbox guest additions on ubuntu guest
[14:09] <sallu> Osirez, i am coming back after prayer and will ask you queries about 15 minutes
[14:09] <sallu> be right back
[14:10] <kubast2> and choosed usb device to be inside of guest ,using vbox windows host.
[14:10] <cfhowlett> kubast2, see the vbox help menu
[14:11] <kubast2> I went to search ,typed in "usb" "No topics found"
[14:11] <cfhowlett> kubast2, click on your machine settings > usb
[14:11] <kubast2> yeah
[14:12] <kubast2> I have added the device from therre
[14:12] <kubast2> rebooted ubuntu too
[14:12] <kubast2> the windows recognizes "VirtualBox USB" ,but no device is present in ubuntu
[14:12] <akik> kubast2: maybe you need to install the vbox extensions too
[14:12] <kubast2> installed
[14:12] <mikeyuf_> akik:  I just removed legacy, added normal nic, connected to internal network and shared the vexternal switch like the guide, working (at least showing up in ifconfig now :))
[14:13] <akik> kubast2: i don't mean the guest additions
[14:13] <kubast2> oh
[14:14] <akik> kubast2: virtualbox extension pack
[14:15] <kubast2> on guest right
[14:15] <akik> kubast2: no. on host
[14:16] <cfhowlett> kubast2, http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.0.8/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-5.0.8-103449.vbox-extpack
[14:16] <akik> kubast2: they ar3 installed through preferences
[14:16] <kubast2> ok I'll turn off vm and install additions
[14:17] <kubast2> *extension
[14:17] <akik> mikeyuf_: i think the guide says to use the internal switch
[14:19] <Guest973> works thx
[14:19] <Guest973> Bus 001 Device 002:
[14:19] <mikeyuf_> akik: I got networking working now, but I imaging it pulling an ip address on my private LAN, which is a 10. network, it is pulling a 192.168. address, any idea why?
[14:20] <akik> mikeyuf_: i 5hink it's the hyper-v manager giving that ip, unless you use the ext swi5ch?
[14:23] <juki> I upgraded to 15.10 and now my laptop boots to black screen.  Any help?
[14:25] <sima_> my xubuntu install with Virtualbox and Teamviewer installed, won't shut down
[14:25] <sima_> it is H81 motherboard, new machine
[14:25] <sima_> it just waits forever, never shutting down aether I shutdown in GUI or I shutdown with shutdown -P now
[14:26] <sima_> It is the problem for a user that asks me what is wrong with the computer and all is at stake now
[14:27] <sima_> oh yes, it is XUbuntu 14.04.3 LTS 64bit
[14:27] <demonlove> what is exactly LTS
[14:27] <cfhowlett> !LTS | demonlove
[14:28] <byabbablabb_> and what is next LTS?
[14:28] <[n0mad]> 16.04
[14:28] <byabbablabb_> ty
[14:28] <sima_> So it should work for supported period, but in practice some update to LTS broke some funcitionality for s ome short time, bu repair it also fast
[14:28] <sima_> So I would like to shut down..
[14:28] <demonlove> somone told me it releases during christmas
[14:29] <cfhowlett> then they lied to you
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> demonlove: 31 december is alpha
[14:34] <demonlove> Means?
[14:34] <skwishy> How can I determine which wifi driver I'm using?
[14:34] <k1l_> demonlove: 16.04 means its release date is april 2016
[14:34] <sima_> how do I post some related logs to see where does it holds instead of shutting down?
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> skwishy: sudo lshw -C network
[14:35] <skwishy> lotuspsychje: awesome, thanks!
[14:35] <cfhowlett> !paste | sima_
[14:35] <k1l_> skwishy: lspci -v
[14:35] <sima_> cfhowlett, that was not the question, question was what to paste from what log to debug it
[14:36] <k1l_> sima_: after a reboot the logs are cycled to log.0 or log.1. see /var/log/ for syslog etc
[14:37] <abkabkabk> anyone know how to make filename.cc:40 a clickable link in any term? i need a new term
[14:37] <skwishy> Does this line from lshw look like a good wireless driver? configuration: broadcast=yes driver=wl0 driverversion=6.30.223.248 (r487574) ip=10.0.0.200 latency=0 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abg
[14:38] <mikeyuf_> Am I right assuming there is no way to natively use Ubuntu 14.04 on Hyper-V with networking besides using ICS sharing from an external switch to an internal switch?  I would rather just set the network settings in hyper-v to External so it will live on the same network as the host.
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> skwishy: yes, driver=
[14:39] <sima_> Yes, I also have MANY bugs reports popping up
[14:39] <sima_> Pointing to Team Viewer
[14:40] <sima_> I would also like to know how to turn off bug reports popping up but manually reporing them automatically
[14:40] <OerHeks> sima_, does your system shutdown properly when you stop teamviewer first? heard that issue before, and check the manufacturor of that mobo for bios updates.
[14:41] <OerHeks> sima_, filing a bugreport on teamviewer also helps, but we don't support teamviewer, as it is closed source.
[14:42] <akik> mikeyuf_: you don't get any network access with the external switch?
[14:42] <sima_> OerHeks, it is good question because Teamviewer has also soem background service, that does not actually closes but it is a good question and I would try
[14:44] <skwishy> Is there a good place to look for updated wifi drivers?
[14:44] <mikeyuf_> akik: well I'll be, just shutdown changed to the external network, now it is working, I swear it wasn't :)  Thanks again akik
[14:44] <cfhowlett> !wifi | skwishy
[14:49] <sima_> I had put acpi=force in /etc/default/grub , wish me luck on shutting down..
[14:50] <akik> mikeyuf_: can you describe the full setup?  :)
[14:50] <annamilofra> .xchat2/budus.so
[14:50] <balnaimi> +i
[14:51] <mikeyuf_> akik: My VMs setup, what part would you like me to describe?
[14:51] <akik> mikeyuf_: are you using the ics and external switch?
[14:52] <akik> mikeyuf_: alwo if dhcp gets the address from your external dhcp server
[14:52] <mikeyuf_> akik:  Well, I still have the vExternal shared to vInternal, but in the VMs network settings, I have the network set to External now, so DHCP is pulling from  my internal lan scope
[14:52] <mikeyuf_> 10.
[14:53] <JCT500THz> I need some help with installing Ubuntu 14.04.
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> !ask | JCT500THz
[14:53] <abkabkabk> anyone know how to make filename.cc:40 a clickable link in any term? i need a new term
[14:54] <akik> mikeyuf_: i didn't follow but congrats
[14:54] <JCT500THz> ?
[14:54] <EriC^^> abkabkabk: a clickable link in a term?
[14:54] <abkabkabk> yea, like in uxrvt
[14:54] <lotuspsychje> JCT500THz: before we can help, we need a question from you
[14:54] <EriC^^> oh, no idea
[14:54] <JCT500THz> Okay.
[14:55] <ratrace> Guys, how can I reboot 15.04 into command line? I tried appending "text" to the kernel line in grub menu but that didn't seem to work. I'm guessing systemd requires something else? I can't seem to find what.
[14:55] <JCT500THz> How do I assign more space to the partition I want to install to? Right now I'm using the live disk.
[14:56] <uwily> ratrace: try rescue mode from grub
[14:57] <ratrace> uwily: isn't that for the busybox shell?
[15:00] <uwily> ratrace: sorry, rescue mode from boot menu.
[15:02] <skwishy> Using chrome in ubuntu, is there a way to change the key mapping so that Ctrl-Alt-C will work the same as ctrl-C for "copy", instead of opening the developer tools?
[15:03] <demonlove> use firefox
[15:03] <demonlove> its open-source
[15:03] <skwishy> it's so slow tho :(
[15:03] <skwishy> well, the way I'm misusing my browser with a million tabs, it's slow
[15:04] <prsteele> Hello everyone, I'm having trouble rebooting and powering down. The reboot/shutdown sequence hangs after it says "Unmounting local filesystems... [OK]" and then never progresses. Any thoughts on where to start looking?
[15:04] <blithen> Any thoughts as to why Mate wouldn't be listed in my available DEs at login?
[15:04] <prsteele> this isn't new hardware; this machine was running fine for several years before it started
[15:05] <edlinde> hi all, I am thinking of installing Ubuntu
[15:05] <edlinde> I have never used it before
[15:05] <blithen> prsteele: maybe try this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/508029/ubuntu-14-04-stuck-on-shutdown
[15:06] <cfhowlett> !install | edlinde,
[15:06] <edlinde> was using Fedora 22.. but it doesn't seem to be working well for me
[15:06] <cfhowlett> edlinde, it's easy to learn, documentation and support are abundant.
[15:06] <prsteele> blithen: I have tried a few of those fixes, and nothing seemed to come of it
[15:06] <edlinde> cfhowlett, should I install 15?
[15:06] <prsteele> blithen: I'm skeptical that would be the fix anyway, since my GRUB file was working fine before, unless an update changed it
[15:07] <cfhowlett> edlinde, me: 14.04 Long Term Support.  YMMV.  15.10 is the latest.
[15:07] <blithen> If you haven't tried that yet, it'd be worth a shot. Can't hurt to try.
[15:07] <edlinde> so I should go with 15.10 right?
[15:07] <cfhowlett> edlinde, sure.
[15:07] <edlinde> do I make a usb booter?
[15:07] <cfhowlett> !usb | edlinde,
[15:07] <edlinde> like a live-usb
[15:08] <edlinde> or you suggest something easier?
[15:08] <blithen> edlinde: you can, you don't have to though. Whatever your preferred way is.
[15:08] <edlinde> blithen, what are the other ways?
[15:08] <cfhowlett> edlinde, see the link I sent you.  unetbootin can make a live USB and I'm pretty sure fedora has live usb creator tools that would work.
[15:08] <OerHeks> edlinde, burn a dvd, or make a live usb
[15:09] <edlinde> oh I have live usb creator installed on Fedora
[15:09] <cfhowlett> edlinde,  I *think* that can create an ubuntu USB
[15:09] <edlinde> so I just download the latest Ubuntu iso and install on usb stick
[15:09] <cfhowlett> yep
[15:09] <edlinde> ok will give it a shot
[15:09] <martin_r> edlinde i suggest you try live boot as others suggested before installing the ting, you will probably though find unbutu much friendlier than fedora
[15:09] <JCT500THz> I'm using the live disk boot, and I'm planning on installing Ubuntu to my 4th partition. But I don't need to ask anything about it right now, yet.
[15:10] <JCT500THz> Specifically, 14.04 LTS.
[15:11] <prsteele> side note, is there any inherent problem with doing REISUB every time I try to fix this? Because for now that's the only way I can actually reboot
[15:11] <edlinde> yeah fedora is killing me with the new dnf
[15:12] <edlinde> keeps getting stuck on 99%
[15:12] <cfhowlett> edlinde, try a live boot, see what's what.
[15:12] <cfhowlett> or install virtualbox to fedora, then install lubuntu to vbox
[15:12] <edlinde> I just need something that can work out of the box with most hardware like printer and connect to wifi easily
[15:12] <edlinde> I think Ubuntu might do all that much easier than other distros
[15:12] <blithen> prsteele: I don't even know what that means so it's a bit above my dumb head. ;)
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> edlinde: depends on the hardware also
[15:13] <prsteele> blithen: ctrl-alt-sysreq-{r,e,i,s,u,b} will... force a reboot
[15:13] <prsteele> blithen: it sends signals to halt everything that will listen, and the boots
[15:13] <cfhowlett> edlinde, they elves and gremlins work hard at user-friendliness and hardware support so unless you have some brand new or exotic hardware you should be good.
[15:13] <edlinde> lotuspsychje, yeah but I remember a collegue with the same laptop installing ubuntu and hving no troubles with it
[15:13] <prsteele> blithen: mnemonic: Reboot Even If System Utterly Broken
[15:14] <abkabkabk> hah
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> edlinde: yeah on LTS many things go fine on ubuntu :p
[15:14] <edlinde> the laptop is 3 yrs old :)
[15:14] <iamrohit7> wily werewolf is awesome.
[15:14] <edlinde> I am downloading 15 though.. not LTS
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> edlinde: but still depends wich chipset of the hardware
[15:14] <JCT500THz> Does 15 even have an LTS yet?
[15:15] <prsteele> alright, anyone know where the log files are for teh reboot sequence? Trying to learn to learn here
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> !lts | JCT500THz
[15:15] <cfhowlett> JCT500THz, 15 will NEVER be lts
[15:15] <JCT500THz> I though only 14.04 had an LTS
[15:15] <JCT500THz> That's the one I'm installing.
[15:15] <prsteele> next LTS is 16.04?
[15:15] <mrtesty> guys how do we prevent DNS leaks when using Network Manager a lot?
[15:15] <cfhowlett> prsteele, corect
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> !xenial | prsteele
[15:16] <mrtesty> what my NM does it adds nameservers to resolv.conf
[15:16] <prsteele> thank you
[15:16] <mrtesty> and I want it to clear it for each connection and input only DNS as per the configuration
[15:16] <mrtesty> of Wifi or VPN etc
[15:16] <mrtesty> but it won't do likewise
[15:17] <JCT500THz> It's taking forever to resise these partitions.
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> prsteele: you can find logs at /var/log
[15:21] <prsteele> lotuspsychje: any idea which would log shutdown info? There's an obvious /var/log/boot.log for boot, but none I can see for shutdown. Or would it just be buried in dmsg?
[15:21] <EriC^^> prsteele: you can press esc while the shutdown splash is there
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> prsteele: press esc or f1 during shutdown
[15:21] <EriC^^> to see stuff
[15:22] <prsteele> ah, thanks EriC^^, lotuspsychje, that sems promising
[15:22] <lotuspsychje> prsteele: whats going wrong exactly?
[15:23] <prsteele> lotuspsychje: when I reboot, it never completes
[15:23] <prsteele> lotuspsychje: when I hit ESC or any F key, it just toggles the splash screen, but there is no useful information anymore
[15:23] <prsteele> lotuspsychje: it used to get to "Unmounting local filesystems... [OK]" before hanging
[15:24] <C_minus> Hello all. I have been corresponding intermittently with #ubuntu regulars like cfhowlett, TJ, lotuspsychje about my WIFI issues (dell factory ubuntu, intel 7260 card). Taking hours to connect, sometimes failing all together. I thought it might interest you to know that since our ISP provided us with a different model router, the connection issues have disappeared!
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> prsteele: you can try to set grub to quiet splash= off ""
[15:24] <cfhowlett> C_minus, happy2hearit!
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> !yay | C_minus
[15:24] <prsteele> lotuspsychje: I tried removing the quiet splash line entirely, that didn't seem to help. I just got the same text with no splash
[15:24] <C_minus> It was a crappy D-Link router before, now its a Huewei.
[15:24] <C_minus> *Huawei
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> prsteele: did you sudo update-grub after?
[15:25] <C_minus> Thanks fellas.
[15:26] <prsteele> lotuspsychje: yes. Now it's not frozen; when I REISUB, I see each command print a log message, and then it reboots. I can even ctrl-alt-f6 to get to another login screen, not that I can type there
[15:27] <Roscoe> trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 32 Bit from USB stick to Windows XP computer. I believe the USB stick is good but cant get the installation menu to boot, any advice?
[15:27] <cfhowlett> Roscoe, 32 bit XP era computer??? Lubuntu, not ubuntu.
[15:28] <cfhowlett> lubuntu can fit on a CD
[15:28] <togo> i just installed hexchat and it autoconnected me here
[15:28] <Roscoe> Lubuntu ? Same installation process?
[15:28] <prsteele> togo: welcome
[15:28] <cfhowlett> Roscoe, yep.  not sure your computer supports USB boot, so CD might be your only option
[15:29] <C_minus> So having been on ubuntu for a few months now, I've totally come round to the idea that linux is how a computer is meant to be used. But recently when somebody asked me why that is, what's different about linux, i was a bit stumped. So the file system is different to windows (/ instead of drive letters), the kernel can be replaced without even rebooting (somehow!!). What else?
[15:29] <cfhowlett> C_minus, you're not "leasing" the software from the publishers
[15:29] <prsteele> C_minus: it comes with the tools you need to make it better
[15:30] <Roscoe> No CD burner on this Dell - How about going back to version 12.04 which is stillsupported?
[15:30] <C_minus> but i mean from a computer science perspective, rather than a commercial/legal perspective.
[15:30] <cfhowlett> C_minus, opensource = no hidden backdoors and surprises.
[15:31] <elosz> what's the difference between extended security and trusted extended attributes ? http://linux.die.net/man/5/attr
[15:31] <cfhowlett> Roscoe, lubuntu 14.04.3 = 750.8 mb .iso
[15:32] <C_minus> is there something particular about its architecture/design that distinguishes it from windows? in my experience it's a lot more similar to mac os, but without all the restrictions of course.
[15:32] <C_minus> is it that linux and mac are "unix like"?
[15:33] <cfhowlett> C_minus, suggestion as we quickly getting off-topic.  as these questions in ##linux
[15:33] <C_minus> good point
[15:33] <Roscoe> thanks Ill give it a try
[15:34] <C_minus> well i mainly came to declare my victory over my old router and to thank you guys for the support. see ya real soon kids!
[15:34] <cfhowlett> C_minus, go forth and sin no more ...
[15:35] <prsteele> can anyone running Ubuntu >= 14.04 tell me the output of `cat /proc/cmdline` ?
[15:35] <prsteele> would like to compare
[15:35] <cfhowlett> prsteele, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13027520/
[15:35] <prsteele> cfhowlett: thank you
[15:36] <cfhowlett> happy2help!
[15:36] <prsteele> damn, almost the same (different kernel image)
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> elosz: maybe the #ubuntu-devel guys know more of this?
[15:36] <elosz> will check it out, ty lotuspsychje
[15:45] <kaspi> hi guys, one of my libs is missing "libmysqlclient_r.so.16"... any idea how to install it to the system?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> !find libmysqlclient
[15:46] <streulma> hello can I stop loading my battery at 80 percent ?
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> !info libmysqlclient18
[15:47] <kaspi> It literally requires "libmysqlclient_r.so.16"
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> kaspi: yes, but it might be a part of another package
[15:50] <prsteele> so for those of you following along at home, the reboot problem *seems* to have been fixed by `sudo apt-get install ubuntu-standard`. Unsure what this could have done.
[15:50] <TJ-> elosz: Trusted extended attributes require the process to have CAP_SYS_ADMIN to see and access them
[15:50] <OerHeks> streulma, depends on the laptopmodel, some vendors allow charging to your limit but that would not prolong its lifetime,its a myth.
[15:50] <kaspi1> I've installed libmysqlclient18 already through
[15:51] <Razzdoll> Why is it that ubuntu 15 vivid seems more like Windows then ever? Every day there are updates from the software manager.
[15:51] <elosz> TJ-: if i want the attribute  to be only read by any process but it should not be writeable even by superuser, which one to use?
[15:51] <cfhowlett> Razzdoll, 1.  unfair  2. untrue.
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> Razzdoll  what's wrong with security updates? if you want them less often, change the settings
[15:52] <Razzdoll> cfhowlett, no itsvery true
[15:52] <cfhowlett> but if you'd rather use an OS that doesn't get upgrades, you're welcome to it.
[15:52] <vivid> debian doesnt have security updates every day, i suppose that means its insecure
[15:52] <Razzdoll> lol
[15:52] <Razzdoll> good point
[15:52] <OerHeks> Razzdoll, updates are bad and costs a lot of money, no?
[15:52] <mrtesty> Do you know how to prevent DNS Leaks?
[15:53] <Razzdoll> nope
[15:53] <mrtesty> NM adds VPN ip to resolv.conf
[15:53] <mrtesty> and some sites shows my DNS
[15:53] <mrtesty> as well
[15:53] <mrtesty> so I think it is leaking
[15:53] <mrtesty> dnsleaktest.com suucks
[15:53] <mrtesty> dnsleak.com <-- rocks
[15:54] <Razzdoll> lol what
[15:54] <kaspi1> This is what I get http://pastie.org/10520195
[15:54] <TJ-> elosz: I'm not sure that's possible. superuser (UID 0) will have CAP_SYS_ADMIN
[15:54] <kaspi1> even through libmysqlclient is installed
[15:55] <hume> hi.. I have a problem with a swap partition - it seems not to be used. How do I make it active?
[15:55] <elosz> TJ-: true. I want to prevent it from writing the attribute.Let's see.
[15:56] <Razzdoll> cfhowlett, no i rather an os with updates. requiring a restart for every one of them is on the path of windows though.
[15:56] <vivid> yeah, the daily kernel updates are quite annoying
[15:56] <OerHeks> Razzdoll, untrue, not all updates require reboot
[15:56] <Razzdoll> how can you say untrue OerHeks when I am the one who does it
[15:57] <TJ-> elosz: It must be possible, thinking about it. SELinux makes use of it as do some of the other security modules
[15:57]  * cfhowlett reminds himself that some people are *never* satisfied.
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> Razzdoll  System settings > Software & Updates > Updates
[15:57] <TJ-> elosz: probably a good question for  ##kernel although possibly not until a weekday
[15:57] <elosz> i am also thinking/googling..let me know if you find anything TJ- and i'll let you know too
[15:58] <Razzdoll> cfhowlett, it's only a conversation. you relax mr
[15:58] <elosz> i asked TJ- .."<derRichard> elosz: IIRC the lsm defines that. so, you need to read its policy"
[15:58] <TJ-> elosz: try reading up on SELinux; that should give you a good idea
[15:58] <elosz> yeah TJ-
[15:58] <TJ-> elosz: right, so SELinux is the best documented
[15:59] <elosz> TJ-: i think i've better way:P I am setting all 4 attributes on file in kernel and then will see what happens on user-side
[15:59] <Razzdoll> MonkeyDust,  :)
[16:00] <prsteele> entirely new line of questions. I have a second monitor that I have rotated, and would like the OS to know about this. I can do this with xrandr, and I currently have a script in my .xprofile to call the appropriate xrandr commands. However, this only happens after I login, and so (for example) lightdm is sideways. I would have assumed this means editing my xorg.conf file, but it seems that "this file is no longer necessary". It also
[16:00] <prsteele> seems that I can put a file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d to have similar effects, however all of the files currently there have a 2-digit prefix. Anyone know what prefix I'd need for a user-generated file there?
[16:00] <MonkeyDust> Razzdoll  it's a bit less 'Windows' now, no?
[16:01] <Razzdoll> MonkeyDust i suppose :P
[16:01] <vivid> prsteele: i have my monitor stuff under "50"
[16:01] <MrMart> If I want to do a full backup of my hdd which is 265 GB, what should I use then? I like dd but a image on 256 GB isn't the most optimal solution
[16:02] <TJ-> prsteele: "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/"
[16:03] <cfhowlett> !clone | MrMart
[16:03] <prsteele> vivid: and from what I'm reading... that just puts it late in lexicographic order?
[16:03] <TJ-> prsteele: i use "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/01fix-rotation-physical-dimensions" to fix-up physical monitor dimensions for rotated monitors
[16:04] <prsteele> TJ-: thanks. ANy reason you use /etc/X11/Xsession.d instead of /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d ?
[16:04] <vivid> i suppose late depends on what else is there..
[16:05] <JCT500THz> I resized my partitions.
[16:05] <prsteele> vivid: sorry, yes, it is relative. But the numbers have no inherent meaning, and are just used to control ordering?
[16:05] <vivid> i believe so
[16:05] <TJ-> prsteele: anything under /usr/share/ is for installation by packages. Local changes should be under /etc/
[16:05] <prsteele> thanks, that seems to be what I'm reading
[16:05] <TJ-> prsteele: numbering is for ordering, yes
[16:05] <prsteele> TJ-: that is a useful convention to know, thank you
[16:05] <TJ-> prsteele: those scripts are usually called (in scripts) by run-parts
[16:06] <JCT500THz> How do I install Ubuntu... Without Grub2?
[16:06] <Quitta> Hi, I'm trying to save a environment variable so it survives a computer restart, I tried this by adding to the .profile file "export VARNAMEX=3", however if I do printenv it doesn't list it. What am I doing wrong?
[16:06] <TJ-> JCT500THz: tell the installer not to install a bootloader
[16:07] <JCT500THz> TJ-, Ok, I'll figure out how to do that.
[16:07] <MrMart> ubottu: apt-clone doesn't backup my entire drive, right? Im sorry if I was unclear but I want full hdd backup which includes kernels, confs, home and etc
[16:07] <prsteele> Quitta: what desktop environment? Different ones source different files, from what I can tell
[16:07] <TJ-> Quitta: it depends in which shell the user is using as to whether ~/.profile is sourced or not
[16:08] <TJ-> JCT500THz: the bootloader option is either at the end of the partitioner stage (there's a combo-dropdown box with a default choice pre-selected), or the last question of the installer (depending on which release and flavour)
[16:08] <Quitta> Hmm I just made a clean install of Ubuntu 14.3.0 and try to make it so the environment variable is loaded when I start a terminal window.
[16:08] <JCT500THz> TJ-, I run 14.04 LTS
[16:08] <prsteele> Quitta: .bashrc, .bash_profile ?
[16:08] <prsteele> Quitta: assuming you use Bash
[16:09] <JCT500THz> I'm on the partition table menu.
[16:09] <MrMart> cfhowlett: man clone isnt what im looking for is it?
[16:09] <JCT500THz> There's 4 partitions.
[16:09] <JCT500THz> I want to install Ubuntu to the fourth partition, and no bootloader.
[16:09] <akik> what's the self configured part for /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d if those files shouldn't be edited?
[16:10] <OerHeks> JCT500THz, why do you want no bootloader?
[16:10] <TJ-> JCT500THz: I think the boot-loader option combo comes in the next stage, after you've confirmed the partitioning
[16:10] <JCT500THz> Because I have to disk to boot Ubuntu with
[16:10] <Quitta> prsteele: I believe so, it's Im using the default settings of ubuntu so I guess. I read I needed to add the variable in $HOME/.profile
[16:10] <JCT500THz> A*
[16:10] <prsteele> akik: TJ- said /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[16:11] <JCT500THz> I click on the fourth partition, and then "Change", right?
[16:11] <TxLinuxNetbook> amba
[16:11] <prsteele> Quitta: try putting it in your .bashrc and see what happens. Just open a new terminal window after you do it to check, no reboot or logout required
[16:11] <JCT500THz> And then, "Use As: [Ext4 journaling file system]" right?
[16:11] <JCT500THz> Do I assign a mount point?
[16:12] <JCT500THz> Right now, as far as I can tell, there's no mount point.
[16:12] <OerHeks> JCT500THz, remove the 4th partition, and let ubuntu handle partitioning, easy
[16:12] <Quitta> Seems my network crashed prsteele, so if you said something I might have missed it. It seems to work if I save it in the .bashrc file instead of the .profile file
[16:13] <prsteele> Quitta: great. Your bashrc is sourced whenever you launch an interactive bash session
[16:13] <akik> Xsession.d contains scripts and xorg.conf.d xorg configuration snippets
[16:13] <TJ-> prsteele: akik /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/ is where packages can install  extensions for xorg.conf, such as quirks for buggy hardware
[16:13] <Quitta> what do you mean by sourced, if you don't mind me asking prsteele
[16:13] <maddawg2> anyone here have any experience configuring VLANs with ubuntu
[16:13] <maddawg2> ?
[16:14] <prsteele> Quitta: source filename evaluates that file, e.g. loading environment variables defined in it. `source` can also be pronounced `.`, e.g. `. .bashrc` is equivalent to `source .bashrc`
[16:14] <JCT500THz> When I create a new partition to run Ubuntu on, do I select "Primary", or "Logical"?
[16:14] <prsteele> Quitta: It basically means "pretend I wrote each line of that file directly in the terminal window"
[16:14] <TJ-> JCT500THz: yes, if the 4th partition is intended as home for Ubuntu, it should be set to be the root file-system which is the "/" mount point
[16:14] <Quitta> aha, never heard of it before, need to look it up :) Thanks for the info prsteele
[16:14] <JCT500THz> Okay.
[16:15] <JCT500THz> Do I leave it at "Beginning of this space"?
[16:15] <TJ-> Quitta: if you see in a script or at the terminal ". /path/to/some/file" that "." is short for "source /path/to/some/file"
[16:15] <prsteele> Quitta: you're welcome!
[16:16] <Quitta> thanks TJ- and prsteele. :)
[16:17] <JCT500THz> The button for the next menu says "Install Now", Will it give me a choice for the bootloader in the next menu?
[16:18] <TJ-> JCT500THz: You should have seen it by now
[16:18] <JCT500THz> I formatted sda4 and set it to ext4 with the mount point at "/"
[16:18] <TJ-> JCT500THz: was it not at the bottom of the screen in the partitioning summary?
[16:19] <JCT500THz> "Device for boot loader installation"?
[16:19] <Zeldhoron> i'm getting this intresting thing when i try to run a ubuntu live usb on a ubuntu device, i get to the live usb grub interface, i selected ubuntu, then it boots, but when its running its not running from the live usb but from the device itself
[16:20] <TJ-> JCT500THz: that's it
[16:20] <JCT500THz> TJ-, which option do I select in the drop down box, specifically?
[16:20] <MonkeyDust> Zeldhoron  so it didnt boot from the live usb
[16:21] <JCT500THz> It has /dev/sda, and then /sda1, 2, 3, and 4.
[16:21] <Zeldhoron> it did at first, i got the grub bootloader from the usb
[16:21] <Zeldhoron> but it seems to load the settings etc from the hard drive in the laptop
[16:21] <TJ-> JCT500THz: there should be a check-box to en/dis-able installing the bootloader
[16:21] <JCT500THz> I don't see anything.
[16:22] <MrMart> I want to make a full backup of my hdd, what are my alternatives? Preferably options that doesn't take up as much space as dd
[16:22] <MonkeyDust> MrMart  backup your /home
[16:23] <MonkeyDust> MrMart  i misread, disregard my comment
[16:23] <JCT500THz> I'm going to put it on Imgur to show you what it looks like.
[16:23] <TJ-> JCT500THz: I'm looking at some screenshots, and indeed, I do not see the bootloader option!
[16:24] <JCT500THz> TJ-, yes, I don't see it, all I see is a drop down box.
[16:24] <TJ-> JCT500THz: are you able to *delete* the text in the "Device for boot loader installation:" combo box?
[16:24] <JCT500THz> TJ-, No, it will only allow me to pick a partition.
[16:25] <TJ-> JCT500THz: that is bad! It also shows how long ago I last used that installer!
[16:25] <JCT500THz> Hmm...
[16:26] <JCT500THz> Maybe I can install it to another partition that I don't need, but at the same time, it won't load it from that partition?
[16:26] <JCT500THz> It would try to load it from /dev/sda/, right?
[16:26] <TJ-> JCT500THz: that's hardly a good solution though
[16:26] <JCT500THz> But if I put it on /dev/sda3 it wouldn't even load, right?
[16:26] <TJ-> JCT500THz: correct, which would over-write anything already there
[16:27] <JCT500THz> It's a useless, unused partition.
[16:27] <JCT500THz> I could use it to hold Grub2 and not load Grub2.
[16:28] <JCT500THz> Would that work?
[16:28] <TJ-> JCT500THz: possibly. I'm reading on the wiki that the workaround style you suggest is required!! That's totally useless
[16:29] <JCT500THz> So, it will work? it won't load?
[16:30] <JCT500THz> TJ-, I have SuperGrub2Disk, specifically so I can boot from a disk.
[16:31] <JCT500THz> So assigning it to a useless partition will work?
[16:31] <TJ-> JCT500THz: although grub may error out for being installed to a partition; I know it warns, but not sure if that will cause the installer to stop
[16:33] <JCT500THz> TJ-, what do you mean, it may have errors?
[16:33] <JCT500THz> During bootup?
[16:33] <TJ-> JCT500THz: during installation
[16:33] <TJ-> JCT500THz: grub doesn't like installing to partitions, because it knows it cannot be booted that way
[16:33] <JCT500THz> TJ-, Okay, I'll try to install it to a partition.
[16:33] <JCT500THz> Hmm...
[16:34] <TJ-> JCT500THz: the only other thing I can think to do is get to the "Install Now" step and wait there, open a terminal, find the Debian-Installer (d-i) dconf database and change the setting for bootloader to 'no'
[16:35] <TJ-> JCT500THz: I'm trying to reproduce your issue here, albeit with 15.10 Kubuntu, to find the dconf
[16:36] <JCT500THz> TJ-, I'm installing Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[16:36] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. Ive been working with the guys in #kubuntu trying to solve a issue with my laptop and (k)ubuntu 15.10 and an Nvidia driver. I've tried both the nvidia-340 and nvidia-352 drivers without success. When i get past the kubuntu splash screen i don't get a login screen. Just blackness
[16:36] <TJ-> JCT500THz: makes no difference; the GUI is just a front-end for d-i
[16:37] <hazamonzo> the graphics card is a K2100M on a thinkpad W541 (its a pretty new laptop) but im told the graphics card should be well supported
[16:37] <JCT500THz> TJ-, oh.
[16:37] <hazamonzo> Its also worth mentioning that this is a hybrid laptop with an intel card also
[16:37] <erxr3> Hello everyone, how can I remove files from a filled-up OS-drive?
[16:38] <erxr3> I have access to the files from another OS
[16:38] <TJ-> hazamonzo: sounds like nvidia-prime isn't correctly working. That is supposed to handle the switching with Optimus systems
[16:38] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Yeah. We checked and nvidia-prime is installed but im not sure how its meant to work / not work
[16:39] <hazamonzo> TJ-: I have a load of pastebin based on the command executed that i was told to do in #kubuntu if you're interested?
[16:40] <TJ-> hazamonzo: I try to keep away from Optimus, its such a mess
[16:40] <hazamonzo> TJ-: The interesting part was that i have to run the laptop with the grub option nomodeset initially to get the OS installed
[16:40] <hazamonzo> Im told that was the first mistake
[16:40] <TJ-> hazamonzo: there's a "gpu-manager" that also examines and does something at boot-time, and I know it writes a log-file under /var/log/ which may contain some clues
[16:41] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Okay. I can take a look at that. All i have is a basic terminal at the moment
[16:41] <TJ-> hazamonzo: "nomodeset" prevents the video driver using the kernel mode-setting to change video modes, so yes, it can cure some problems but leads to others. Rock and a hard place, sometimes.
[16:42] <TJ-> hazamonzo: also /var/log/Xorg.0.log should reveal what is going on, or else /var/log/lightdm/ logs
[16:42] <hazamonzo> TJ-: You're right. To get into the OS i had to use nomodeset. Then once in i tried the various nvidia drivers (352 and 340)
[16:42] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Okay. I'll take a look at that log also
[16:43] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Is there anything i should look out for in the gpu-manager.log first?
[16:43] <TJ-> hazamonzo: provided the PC is no longer using nomodeset it ought to work, even if the boot splash screen is blank
[16:43] <TJ-> hazamonzo: I only know its there from other investigations, but as it is related to GPU detection, I'd infer there's some useful info there
[16:44] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Okay. Well grub is not hard coded to use nomodeset, i just override it if i want to at least get to a terminal. Without it the OS freezes after the splash
[16:44] <hazamonzo> And i don't have a UI or terminal
[16:45] <PanV> Since I am sick of Ubuntu, and now I don't have a tablet, until Windows 10 supports Windows 8.1 keys (Monday) I would like to have a temporary Ubuntu system. But for some reason, with my LiveUSB Unetbootin could not be installed. Any help?
[16:45] <Fjorgynn> hello
[16:46] <Fjorgynn> I've got a question. Can I remove the gui updater? When I do apt-get update it always say "Hey here is your new stuff"
[16:46] <Renfried> you can tell it not to inform you of updates, or only show once a week or fortnight if you want
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> Fjorgynn   System settings > Software & Updates > Updates ... try setting it to 'never'
[16:47] <Renfried> but why would you? for me it is a good reminder, I have security and normal updates to display immediately, or I would forget
[16:48] <blah-> happy Halloween :)
[16:48] <SchrodingersScat> reminder? he just ran apt-get update, I normally just close the window and don't mind
[16:48] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Ooft. Xorg.log has a fair amount of info... Not sure what im really looking for
[16:48] <Fjorgynn> hm
[16:49] <cheetahw26> I need a small/affordable mini/micro-pc that I can use with Ubuntu, needs ethernet, ability to play 1080p videos, and HDMI for a commercial solution, audio port is a plus, but not mandatory...
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> cheetahw26  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:50] <cheetahw26> some very nice people at #hardware recommended an MSI Cubi or Intel NUC, but I haven't been able to find any information on them running Linux, they all seem to have Windows 8
[16:50] <cheetahw26> oh... thanks
[16:51] <PanV> Since I am sick of Ubuntu, and now I don't have a tablet, until Windows 10 supports Windows 8.1 keys (Monday) I would like to have a temporary Ubuntu system. But for some reason, with my LiveUSB Unetbootin could not be installed. Any help?
[16:51] <PanV> Sorry for repeating myself.
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> PanV  next time, drop the rant part
[16:53] <neurocroc> how to upgrade to windows 10
[16:54] <k1l_> neurocroc: ask ##windows
[16:55] <loa> how i can downgrade my ubuntu?
[16:56] <k1l_> loa: you cant downgrade the whole ubuntu release
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> loa  not, install an earlier release instead
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> loa  maybe there's a a different sollution for your issue, start from the beginning
[16:58] <anas> hi
[16:59] <erxr3> Hello everyone, how can I remove files from a filled-up OS-drive? I have access to the files from another OS, but cannot change permissions via gui
[17:00] <uRock> WHen I run uname -r the terminal shows I am running 3.13.0-35-generic. Is this accurate? Synaptic shows I the latest installed as being 3.13.0-66.
[17:00] <people> [code]Just testing[/code]
[17:01] <uRock> erxr3, if you have synaptic package manager installed, then you can uninstall older kernels to free up space. I did this on my wife's ubuntu yesterday and cleared up 2GB in the system partition.
[17:01] <TJ-> uRock: 'uname' reads the running kernel version
[17:02] <bekks> erxr3: For doing that, you may install the 'bikeshed' package, which provides 'purge-old-kernels'.
[17:02] <uRock> TJ, is it odd to be running on the oldest kernel listed in the package manager?
[17:02] <erxr3> uRock, yes, I have synaptic installed, but can I find this old kernel from another system?
[17:02] <TJ-> uRock: usually the latest installed kernel should be listed first in GRUBs menu.
[17:03] <erxr3> bekks, also the installation of this system is very fresh, can there be old kernels still?
[17:03] <uRock> TJ, thanks. I'll reboot and see if it is using that one.
[17:03] <bekks> erxr3: Theoretically, every update can provide a new kernel, leaving you with an additional old kernel.
[17:03] <mr_lou> Hello. I've been using a Samsung 22" TV + a Sony 40" TV as cloned monitors for years without problems. Now I've replaced the Sony 40" TV with some other cheap 22" TV, that Ubuntu recognizes as "OEM 7"" and doesn't offer any acceptable resolution. Is there a relative easy fix for this?
[17:04] <bekks> erxr3: I'm using that tool mentioned above regularly, for getting rid of old kernels.
[17:04] <TJ-> uRock: does this list all the installed kernels, with the most recent first?  "grep menuentry /boot/grub/grub.cfg"
[17:04] <erxr3> bekks, I guess I haven't even run any updates yet on the new system.
[17:04] <erxr3> yet I can still try the tool.
[17:05] <TJ-> mr_lou: the display is expected to provide its supported modes in an EDID data strcuture. It may not be doing that. Check /var/log/xorg.0.log to see if the EDID is being received, and if it is mbeing reported corrupt
[17:05] <bekks> erxr3: If you havent run any updates yet - how large/small is your / then?
[17:05] <loa> MonkeyDust, i upgraded to ubuntu 15.10 and i have strange filling when working with firefox and chromium, they are behaving strange, firefox flickering on some pages, chromium sometimes staying in pending requests to page forever/
[17:05] <loa> MonkeyDust, looks like software is not so stable in ubuntu 15.10
[17:05] <erxr3> bekks, it is 20gb
[17:06] <bekks> erxr3: And is it / which is full?
[17:06] <uRock> TJ, yes. Oddly it shows that one first, then 3.13.0-24 afterwards and none of the more recent kernels. There are 12 newer kernels listed as installed.
[17:06] <erxr3> bekks, yes
[17:06] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/10517424#15   cant do the job, i need copy a file from server1 to server2, i try generate a ssh certificate, and ask and ask me the password any adivce?
[17:06] <sallu> Osirez, are you there
[17:06] <sallu> Osirez, i am free now
[17:06] <erxr3> bekks, while installing bikeshed I am asked if I want to install some packages w/o verification
[17:07] <jak2000> sallu can advice me please
[17:07] <bekks> erxr3: yeah.
[17:07] <erxr3> ok, thank you
[17:07] <MonkeyDust> loa  you can always backup and install 14.04 LTS ... 16.04 will be released in april, you can upgrade directly LTS > LTS
[17:07] <sallu> jak2000, what kind of advice you need now?
[17:08] <loa> MonkeyDust, can i somehow downgrade chromium to ubuntu 14.04 version?
[17:08] <MonkeyDust> loa  not sure, havent tried, but i guess not
[17:08] <sallu> Osirez, ??????????????????????????
[17:08] <jak2000> why not work:
[17:08] <jak2000> http://pastie.org/10517424#15
[17:09] <bekks> jak2000: Whats not working there?
[17:09] <mr_lou> TJ-, Thanks. It seems to report EDID info fine... but returns wrong resolutions. Only goes to 1280x1024. At least I know it supports 1920x1080 when connecting a blu-ray player to the same HDMI input. Is there some kind of difference between a blu-ray player and a computer?
[17:10] <linocisco> hi all
[17:11] <jak2000> bekks ask and ask the password
[17:11] <hazamonzo> ugh. So close yet so far for this Nvidia issue :)
[17:11] <jak2000> i need not ask me a password when try copy the file with scp or rsync command
[17:11] <linocisco> i used 15.04 x64 and my D-link USB modem was fine. when I installed 14.04.3 LTS for better support, it is not ok. can't turn on mobile internet
[17:12] <TJ-> jak2000: use a public key then
[17:12] <linocisco> i used 15.04 x64 and my D-link USB modem was fine. when I installed 14.04.3 LTS for better support, it is not ok. can't turn on mobile internet. If I want to use internet from sim card, I need to put it in one handset via USB cable and it works. I want to use on USB modem instead dont want to overcharge my phone battery
[17:12] <bekks> jak2000: when connecting from host A to host B - did you add the public key of A into authorized_keys of host B?
[17:13] <hazamonzo> So i went to check what drivers each one of the GPUs in this laptop is using. The intel one is using i915. The nvidia one is using the nvidia driver. buuuuut.... when o try modinfo nvidia i get "Nvidia not found"
[17:13] <hazamonzo> Isn't that slightly odd?
[17:13] <linocisco> what could be the issue?
[17:13] <mr_lou> TJ-, Hmm, actually it returns these two lines too:
[17:13] <mr_lou> [    32.976] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #0: hsize: 1920  vsize 1200  refresh: 60  vid: 209
[17:13] <mr_lou> [    32.976] (II) NOUVEAU(0): #1: hsize: 1920  vsize 1080  refresh: 60  vid: 49361
[17:13] <erxr3> bekks, bikeshed installed. how do I use it?
[17:15] <sallu> http://filehippo.com/download_dotnet_framework_4        ,
[17:15] <sallu> oh sorry .....
[17:17] <erxr3> or else how can I remove old kernels via synaptic?
[17:18] <erxr3> there is a files tab under preferences, where it says "delete cached package files" ...is it this one to be used?
[17:20] <carl_> I'm using 14.04 and trying to get vino/desktop sharing to work and I can't find the place to configure it
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> erxr3  sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:23] <erxr3> MonkeyDust, the problem is, I am on another system than the one in which I'd like to remove files
[17:23] <erxr3> as I cannot access the system directly
[17:23] <erxr3> due to filled-up space
[17:24] <Dyzem> Trying to output my display to TV monitor using HDMI cable and only my background appears. Anyone know how to fix this? I can drag VLC player to the right for it to display but I don't want to have to do that.
[17:25] <erxr3> MonkeyDust, would autoremove still erase old kernels of the target system, if there is any?
[17:26] <erxr3> ok, I ran autoremove, but it says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 22 not upgraded"
[17:26] <loa> erxr3, you can search by linux keyword and delete what you want.
[17:26] <TJ-> Dyzem: currently the workspace has been extended to use both displays; if you want to 'clone' the primary display you need to configure that in display settings
[17:26] <erxr3> loa, should the keyword be "linux" or "linux-image", which I found in ubuntu forum?
[17:27] <loa> erxr3, linux will be ok, just select thos packages you don't really need
[17:27] <loa> and be carefull.
[17:30] <erxr3> loa, that's just what I wanted to say now. I am wary of this. it is relatively easy for me to apply solutions to current system problems, but I dont want to add a messed up kernel to them :)
[17:31] <loa> erxr3, i suggest you to save 2-3 different kernels.
[17:31] <erxr3> I just want to be able to delete the files that I myself have pasted in my home folder. I can access the system via another OS, but  I cannot delete them due to permissions..could you maybe help me know how I can change folder /file permissions? it is not changeable via nautilus.
[17:33] <erxr3> it says read-only
[17:33] <loa> erxr3, it full name is /file ?
[17:34] <erxr3> loa, sorry, you mean the full name of the folder?
[17:34] <jak2000> bekks: yes in line 25 and 40 i do....
[17:34] <loa> erxr3, yes
[17:34] <erxr3> no, no, I just wanted to write "how I can change folder and file permissions", if you refer to my sentence
[17:34] <erxr3> it was a slash
[17:35] <erxr3> but I found this one:     sudo mount -o remount,rw '/media/drivename/path-to-folder
[17:35] <erxr3> is it correct?
[17:35] <erxr3> it says for remounting as writeable
[17:36] <Windows3> How do I run a script as root right after login?
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> Windows3  sudo crontab -e ... enter a command with sudo
[17:37] <loa> erxr3, you don't give all information. That can depend on target file system, if it is ext4 it will preserve all permissions of directories and files.
[17:37] <erxr3> loa, it is ext4, yes
[17:38] <Windows3> What exactly would I put in the crontab?
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> Windows3  the command you want
[17:38] <loa> erxr3, that you can use chmod and chown commands to change owners and permissions.
[17:38] <Windows3> thats it? no time/
[17:38] <Windows3> ?
[17:38] <loa> erxr3, after that you delete them from nautilus.
[17:38] <Windows3> I'll try it
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> Windows3  you can @reboot
[17:39] <MonkeyDust> Windows3  you can use @reboot
[17:39] <codernotz> anyone knows abt installing Dolby Digital Plus driver for linux on lenovo
[17:39] <carl_> hmmm
[17:39] <TJ-> erxr3: if the target is using 100% space, the best solution is to create a chroot of the target root file-system and work from within the chroot to analyse and fix it
[17:39] <Windows3> I tried it and it gave me an error said bad minute I think it wants a time
[17:40] <wileee> codernotz, From the ubuntu repos here, gotta link so we know what it is?
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> Windows3  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto#Crontab_Sections
[17:40] <erxr3> loa, one more detail, I can access the target system until the point just before desktop appears. that is, I can login, but I get a blank ubuntu 14.04. ambiance-theme screen without any desktop element. I can go to command line via ctrl-alt-f1, but dont know how to proceed from there
[17:41] <ST-84> Hey
[17:41] <ST-84> Im trying to get mpd working on my ubuntu server
[17:41] <ST-84> Perhaps im just missing something
[17:41] <ST-84> Pulseaudio or Alsa in 15.10?
[17:41] <erxr3> loa, TJ- what would the command look like?
[17:42] <Windows3> oh shit It works thanks so much MonkeyDust
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> Windows3  yw
[17:43] <TJ-> erxr3: do you know which block device is the root file-system? E.g. /dev/sdXY or /dev/mapper/VG-LV ?
[17:44] <erxr3> TJ- no, how can I understand which one it is?
[17:44] <byabbablabb_> df
[17:44] <TJ-> erxr3: You'll need to figure that out yourself. use "sudo lsblk -f" to get an idea of what is what
[17:46] <erxr3> TJ- if you mean whether I know the name of my system's partition, yes, I can see it as /dev/sdXY
[17:46] <erxr3> I also see that of the target system's
[17:47] <erxr3> system*
[17:47] <wileee> codernotz, Try addressing what it is you need in sound, we want to help, just need some details, not sure the dolby is offered as a driver for linux.
[17:48] <codernotz> thats exactly what i am searching for...
[17:49] <wileee> codernotz, what is? use nics when answering and a sentence with context.
[17:49] <codernotz> need linux driver for dolby digital plus for lenovo but lenovo only provides drivers for windows
[17:50] <codernotz> ok wileee
[17:50] <wileee> codernotz, right and not available, what now?
[17:50] <ST-84> Nvm i fixed it
[17:51] <codernotz> dont know wileee i thought someone might know if custom drivers are available wileee... no problem i will keep looking..
[17:51] <erxr3> let's say the system that I am in now is /dev/sda1, and the target system is /dev/sda2...how would the chmod or chown command be applied to change permissions of the  ~/Documents/myfolder  in target system?
[17:51] <wileee> codernotz, Look at pulse audio that is the answer in the end, best of luck. ;)
[17:52] <programming913> could someone help me with gcc on ubuntu
[17:52] <codernotz> thanks wileee for your assistance..
[17:52] <programming913> basically, when I #include <signal.h> I still get implicit declaration warning for 'kill'
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> programming913  if you don't find help here, try #gcc or #ubuntu-app-devel
[17:53] <Seveas> programming913: you need sys/types.h as well, and you'll need to define _XOPEN_SOURCE or _POSIX_SOURCE
[17:53] <wileee> codernotz, my pleasure, no problem.
[17:53] <loa> erxr3, something like this mkdir /mnt/fs; mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/fs; chroot /mnt/fs;  chmod 0777 /home/YourUser/myfolder
[17:53] <Seveas> programming913: see man 2 kill
[17:53] <loa> erxr3, you can use recovery mode in grub for this too
[17:55] <erxr3> loa, assuming that fs refers to the target system, am I making a directory of this system in my current system?
[17:55] <loa> erxr3, yes you doing i current system
[17:55] <loa> in
[17:56] <jessu> Hello guys I installed ubuntu 15 on dell vostro 3546 and it have intel haswel mobile graphics how can i install those graphic drivers ??
[17:56] <jessu> I see my screen very small
[17:57] <erxr3> loa,  "/home/YourUser/myfolder" will be the folder in the target system that I want to change permissions for, rightß
[17:57] <erxr3> ?
[17:58] <skywebro> l2tp-ipsec-vpn is gone from ubuntu wily. is there a replacement?
[17:58] <programming913> MonkeyDust, Seveas: thanks
[17:58] <loa> erxr3, yes i change symbol ~ on that YourUser becase in chroot it will not work
[17:58] <PaulW2U> quit/
[17:58] <erxr3> loa, ah, ok, thank you :)
[18:01] <jessu> how can I keep my screen resolution goog fit to screen
[18:01] <jessu> good*
[18:02] <erxr3> loa, I replaced "fs" with the path of the target system as it is shown under "/media" folder, but it said "No such file or directory"...did you mean that I need to make a directory that is literally named as "fs" ?
[18:03] <loa> erxr3, i gave you exact command instruction set to make things work.
[18:03] <loa> you must create that directory, yes.
[18:03] <TheMike|laptop> Hello.
[18:03] <TheMike|laptop> I just got a Lenovo Y50, with a GeForce 960M GPU.
[18:04] <erxr3> loa, thank you, i will go on with it now
[18:04] <TheMike|laptop> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 15.10 on it
[18:04] <TheMike|laptop> I burnt the install ISO to a USB, and I've tried to use it
[18:05] <TheMike|laptop> When I use it (UEFI is disabled), I get a bunch of noveau errors, which I assume is from my graphics card.
[18:05] <TheMike|laptop> Then Ubuntu's boot screen pops up, then it just reboots the entire computer back into Windows.
[18:05] <TheMike|laptop> How can I fix this?
[18:08] <skywebro> need help on setting vpn with l2tp/ipsec, anyone
[18:09] <Bashing-om> TheMike|laptop: Did you me5sum the .iso file ? Did you verify the burn to UAB was good ? One must know theses are good prior to install . Did you "try ubuntu" mode ?
[18:09] <wileee> TheMike|laptop, missing key details for the helpers here, where are you getting the driver you use? What is the graphics hardware completely sounds dual card.
[18:09] <Bashing-om> UAB/USB*
[18:09] <TheMike|laptop> The driver is whatever is on the Ubuntu 15.10 install ISO?
[18:10] <erxr3> loa, I proceeded until the last command, and with chmod 777 I got this error; http://paste.ubuntu.com/13035550/
[18:10] <TheMike|laptop> I seriously just downloaded Ubuntu 15.10 install, and used Unetbootin to stick it on a USB.
[18:11] <ioria> TheMike|laptop, try to  boot with nomode set   (Option F6 )
[18:11] <Bashing-om> !md5sum TheMike|laptop 1st step::
[18:12] <Bashing-om> !md5sum |TheMike|laptop 1st step::
[18:12] <TheMike|laptop> I tried
[18:12] <TheMike|laptop> Try Ubuntu
[18:12] <TheMike|laptop> and Install Ubuntu
[18:12] <TheMike|laptop> I'll look into nomode, thanks!
[18:13] <TheMike|laptop> I'll be back on IRC in a few.
[18:16] <yesuserok> can someone tell me where to edit the icon maximize button size in gnome shell? they are too small
[18:17] <erxr3> loa, I guess I corrected the path here, but still the same error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13035983/
[18:17] <ggg> hi
[18:17] <yesuserok> ???
[18:19] <darkmaniac> I have ubuntu installed on a laptop and a desktop. When I pull the laptop drive out of hte laptop and out it in a USB enclosure and hook it up to the desktop, it seems that I have full access to all user's files, since both computers have the same uid and username. That seems kinda weird. ext4 filesystem.
[18:20] <Bashing-om> erxr3: For reference, what you should see " sysop@1404mini:~$ ls -al /home/sysop/Downloads/ " where I am 'sysop' . All files in "your" home should be owned by "YOU" .
[18:20] <darkmaniac> I would think that Ubuntu would create some kind of unique hash for every username created or something
[18:20] <jessu> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem
[18:20] <jessu> what shoul I do??
[18:21] <erxr3> Bashing-om, sorry, what are you referring to?
[18:21] <erxr3> have I mistyped the pathß
[18:21] <erxr3> ?
[18:21] <kubast2> Hey ,where can I find libusb.h ?
[18:21] <EriC^^> darkmaniac: yeah cause it uses the uid
[18:21] <kubast2> after installing libusb-dev
[18:22] <EriC^^> darkmaniac: you can access the files, and if you aren't chrooted, it'll even show as the user who has the same uid on your machine
[18:22] <erxr3> Bashing-om, I have the real folder names in terminal, if you mean them. just while pasting I replaced them with symbolic names
[18:22] <vfw> kubast2: find / -name libusb.h -type f
[18:23] <Bashing-om> erxr3: In your command " /home/homename/Documents/myfolder " this is nonsense . "homename shoube be your actual username ( as in mine is sysop 0 and the target 'myfolder' as a actual existing directory as in "Downloads" .
[18:23] <kubast2> my mouse doesn't work now lol
[18:23] <erxr3> Bashing-om, sure I did as you mention..I just explained it above
[18:23] <vfw> kubast2: Probably somewhere like /usr/include/something-or-other/
[18:23] <shallwe> hi guys, trying ubuntu here, but theres some errors. Please someone knows how can i do verbose mode un boot?
[18:23] <kubast2> ls us
[18:23] <kubast2> fuck
[18:23] <kubast2> forget abot the mouse
[18:23] <shallwe> i need to see the lines in boot for see the error
[18:24] <vfw> shallwe: remove quiet from kernel line
[18:24] <kubast2> ok it's not here
[18:24] <darkmaniac> EriC^^, that's very interesting
[18:24] <kubast2> funny thing through
[18:24] <OerHeks> kubast2, watch your language here please, keep this channel family friendly, thanks.
[18:24] <shallwe> vfw: but i cant acess ubuntu, its just stay in ubuntu logo
[18:24] <kubast2> ok
[18:24] <kubast2> my mouse only works in hexchat
[18:24] <shallwe> is theres a grub command?
[18:24] <vfw> kubast2: Two suggestions: 1) Watch the language 2)
[18:25] <kubast2> 2) we kick you
[18:25] <yesuserok> hgello
[18:25] <kubast2> ls
[18:25] <vfw> kubast2: Quit using enter for puncuation.
[18:25] <yesuserok> how are you
[18:25] <vfw> kubast2: You are correct
[18:25] <byabbablabb_> guys, i'm using kde - is there somewhere i can manage link handlers and such?
[18:25] <darkmaniac> EriC^^, so unless there is disk or folder encryption, local access to a machine REALLY DOES give a person full control of everything
[18:25] <shallwe> vfw: i got, ty
[18:25] <shallwe> i type E and not C :)
[18:26] <EriC^^> darkmaniac: yeah, if you have local access to the disk, then you can do anything
[18:26] <darkmaniac> scary
[18:26] <EriC^^> darkmaniac: local access to the machine is pretty easy too
[18:26] <kubast2> I couldn't find libusb.h :(
[18:26] <darkmaniac> EriC^^, how do you mean
[18:26] <kubast2> I installed libusb-dev
[18:27] <vfw> kubast2: find / -name "libusb*" -type d
[18:27] <EriC^^> darkmaniac: if somebody holds shift to get grub, edits the boot entry with init=/bin/bash he gets a root shell
[18:27] <darkmaniac> EriC^^, oh right
[18:27] <darkmaniac> EriC^^, I thought you meant it was easy to break into peoples houses or something
[18:27] <EriC^^> lol
[18:28] <EriC^^> no
[18:28] <kubast2> 2> /dev/null sends sttderr to dev null ?
[18:28] <kubast2> yup
[18:28] <erxr3> as a user with name "ubunted" and the target folder "places" I do apply "sudo chmod 0777 /home/ubunted/Documents/places" but it gives the above-pasted error
[18:29] <ioria> kubast2, i can only say that  is here http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/amd64/libusb-1.0-0-dev/filelist,but i  don't knowwhat are you doing
[18:29] <Bashing-om> erxr3: K; Please pastebin ' ls -al /home/ubunted/Documents ' . We see what the story is .
[18:30] <kubast2> ioria I need libusb.h to compile some rockchip flash tool
[18:30] <ioria> !info    ibusb-1.0-0-dev
[18:31] <goddard> where  can i read about the firefox updates being pushed out?
[18:31] <kubast2> No such file or directory
[18:31] <kubast2>  /usr/include/libusb-1.0
[18:32] <ioria> kubast2, you have  to install it
[18:32] <erxr3> Bashing-om, I try to change permissions of a folder in a target system. I created mnt/fs and chrooted it, as you can read above. in the last step, I get the error "No such file or directory"..the same error comes when I type  "root@ubunted:/# sudo ls -al /home/ubunted/Documents"
[18:32] <kubast2> I did
[18:32] <kubast2> oh
[18:32] <kubast2> libusb-1.0-0-dev
[18:32] <ioria> yes
[18:32] <kubast2> sudo apt-get
[18:32] <kubast2> thx
[18:32] <ioria> kubast2, read the  link first
[18:33] <ioria> kubast2, and check apt-cache for conflicts
[18:33] <vfw> kubast2: You do not havef libusb.h in the directory /usr/include/libusb-1.0 ?
[18:33] <kubast2> I have it
[18:33] <kubast2> I installed libusb-dev
[18:33] <paffy> Hi. Is there a way to change where the ssh keys are located? Instead of ~/.ssh ?
[18:33] <vfw> kubast2: Oh ok
[18:34] <erxr3> forget to add that I'd also mounted the target system at /mnt/fs
[18:34] <EriC^^> paffy: sudo nano /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[18:34] <EriC^^> i think you have to uncomment AuthorizedKeysFile	%h/.ssh/authorized_keys and set it to what you want
[18:35] <paffy> EriC^^: Ok.  sshd_config doesn't exist. There is a ssh_config file though?
[18:35] <EriC^^> paffy: oh you mean on the client?
[18:35] <paffy> EriC^^: Yeah
[18:35] <p4r0> s
[18:36] <paffy> EriC^^: I want to have my ssh keys in ~/Dropbox/.ssh
[18:36] <Bashing-om> erxr3: Are you in a full CHange Root environment, os just mounting the partition from a live environment ? The paths then will be different .
[18:36] <EriC^^> paffy: i guess it's ssh_config then
[18:36] <EriC^^> paffy: this line needs to be uncommented IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_rsa
[18:36] <kubast2> ioria
[18:36] <kubast2> forget
[18:36] <Netek> hi all, I installed Viber onto ubuntu but it keeps crashing.  Can somebody please guide me where to look to find what the issue is?
[18:37] <kubast2> to click ctrl+alt again
[18:37] <paffy> EriC^^: yeah, I see it
[18:38] <erxr3> Bashing-om, I guess both. I am in root in the terminal, and also have access to the target partition from the system that I am in now
[18:39] <erxr3> I followed the commands as loa gave them to me, and used them to create fs directory and mount the target system there, and chrooting mnt/fs
[18:39] <erxr3> so the target system is mounted in two places now
[18:40] <erxr3> both are read-only at the moment
[18:40] <loa> how it is even possible?
[18:40] <paffy> EriC^^: thanks btw :)
[18:40] <EriC^^> paul-kk: no problem :)
[18:40] <EriC^^> paffy: no problem :)
[18:41] <Bashing-om> erxr3: Let us test and see where you are .. what returns  ' ls -al /home/ ' is there a directory of your "username" ?
[18:42] <kubast2> how to paste something into terminal without a mouse ?
[18:42] <erxr3> Bashing-om, to add a detail in case relevant, the target system's home folder is encrypted.
[18:42] <EriC^^> kubast2: shift+ctrl+v or shift+insert , depending on how you got it into the clipboard
[18:42] <erxr3> Bashing-om, this is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13037542/
[18:44] <OerHeks> i was waiting for that, erxr3, target home encrypted.
[18:44] <Bashing-om> erxr3: That "encryption" is a layer of complexity I am not qualified to cope with . Others will have to advise on how to access encrypted volumns .
[18:48] <ubuntu521> daftykins: hey daftykins, are you there?
[18:49] <erxr3> but I have access to the encrypted folder, just that I cannot delete files there (change permissions)
[18:50] <erxr3> Bashing-om ^
[18:51] <erxr3> that said, I cannot access the encrypted folder mounted at /mnt/fs, but i can access it on the other mounting point, which I managed via ecryptfs over terminal
[18:51] <Netek> I am going to install ubuntu 14.04 on a vps, I plan to run 2 websites from this vps.  Is it worth installing webmin to easily manage the accounts?  I will need email (smtp/imap), FTP and Apache webserver
[18:51] <OerHeks> Netek, no, see !webmin
[18:51] <OerHeks> !webmin
[18:52] <Netek> OerHeks ok what is another recommendation? I have heard of ISPConfig but not sure if that is supported, might just go ahead and read up about it.  Thank you
[18:53] <bekks> Netek: If you know that you are using just two websites, it's not worth going with a web ui :)
[18:54] <erxr3> interestingly, using nautilus I try to change permissions of the home folder mounted at /mnt/fs, and they appear to have been changed, but the files are still not removabl
[18:54] <erxr3> e
[18:54] <Netek> bekks ok, its just that I am not experienced with setting up ftp, apache, mail server etc
[18:54] <bekks> Netek: Then you should NOT use web ui :)
[18:54] <Bashing-om> erxr3: From that last output to pastebin, I would surmise that the username here is " paro " what has " ubunted " got to do with this ?
[18:55] <ioria> Netek, take  a look , i did it once https://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-14.04-apache2-php-mysql-pureftpd-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3
[18:55] <Netek> bekks hah I thought the purpose of a web ui was for people like me?
[18:55] <Netek> ioria thanks
[18:55] <ioria> np
[18:55] <bekks> Netek: No, a web ui is for people knowing whats happening under the hood ;)
[18:56] <OerHeks> Netek, ispconfig is mentioned here too http://askubuntu.com/questions/333529/what-server-control-panels-are-available-for-ubuntu-server
[18:57] <OerHeks> Netek, and there is also #ubuntu-server :-)
[18:57] <erxr3> Bashing-om, ubunted was just exemplary, i was trying to explain that there was no error in the path
[18:57] <Netek> I love to know how I search numerous things on google and I dont find anything and everybody else seemlessy finds things within seconds
[18:58] <ioria> Netek, i have  to say that is  very easy  to make mistakes, so  read it a couples of times before starting
[18:58] <Netek> ioria I will do :)  I will read up each software that is recommended to be installed to find out more what they are for
[18:59] <ioria> Netek, exactly
[18:59] <erxr3> will i be able to further apply chmod hereß
[18:59] <erxr3> ?
[19:00] <Bashing-om> erxr3: I have no experience with encryption . Others I feel can better advise. I would not want to mislead you .
[19:01] <erxr3> Bashing-om, sure, I understand, thank you very much for your kind help!
[19:02] <erxr3> because I have to handle multiple problems today, I would to ask of if I can bring about a second question, too, while trying to solve this current one.
[19:02] <erxr3> "I would like to ask if.." *
[19:03] <Bashing-om> erxr3: One can always ask .. but best practice is to focus on one issue at a given time .
[19:04] <erxr3> Bashing-om, to avoid confusion, or to make it technically easier, I can join the channel with a second username. if it is ok for you
[19:04] <erxr3> as a second user, that is
[19:06] <Bashing-om> erxr3: That practice of 2 nicks is discouraged .. it does add to the confusion factor .. this is a busy channel and is difficult enough as it is to keep up with a particular nick/issue .
[19:06] <Netek> OerHeks and ioria thank you both for the guidance :)
[19:06] <ioria> np
[19:07] <paffy> Is it just me or is the key-binding Super+T to open trash not in Keyboard settings? I can't find it to disable.
[19:07] <erxr3> Bashing-om, ok..then the current problem first.
[19:08] <trimeta> I'm having trouble getting the ncurses-based Ubuntu Server installer to work from a USB flash drive. I used dd to directly copy ubuntu-15.10-server-amd64.iso onto a drive, and while it boots initially (using either regular USB boot or UEFI), and I can hit "enter" at the "Install Ubuntu" screen, on the next screen after that (where it wants you to choose a language), it freezes and refuses to respond to any input.
[19:08] <goddard> has anyone been getting several firefox updates lately?
[19:09] <Klojum> goddard: which FF version are you on now?
[19:10] <ioria> trimeta, do you  have a  ' test  disk integrity' option  at the beginning   ?
[19:10] <trimeta> I believe so. I'll check that.
[19:11] <goddard> Klojum: 41.0.2
[19:11] <erxr3> just curious, instead of mounting the target at /mnt/fs, and chrooting the latter, can I chroot the folder where the target system is also mounted via ecryptfs command?
[19:11] <Klojum> goddard: same here... Is there are problem?
[19:12] <goddard> Klojum: i have gotten update notifications for the past two days
[19:12] <goddard> multiples in fact
[19:12] <erxr3> I mean, in order to then apply chmod the folder with the latter path?
[19:12] <goddard> like 3 or 4
[19:12] <erxr3> to*
[19:12] <Klojum> such as?
[19:13] <TJ-> Did someone mention encryption?
[19:13] <goddard> Klojum: such as?
[19:14] <Bashing-om> TJ-: erxr3 Is encrypted, and attempting to access and change permissions (WHY ?) I am running away real hard .
[19:14] <Klojum> goddard: sorry..  multitasking is not good idea for me tonight.
[19:14] <goddard> haha
[19:15] <erxr3> Bashing-om?
[19:15] <erxr3> i dont understand your question
[19:15] <TJ-> Bashing-om: encrypted home with ecryptfs?
[19:15] <trimeta> ioria: Good call about the disk check: I got an error saying "The ./pool/restricted/i/iucode-tool/iucode-tool_1.3-1_amd64.deb file failed the MD5 checksum verification. Your CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted."
[19:15] <ioria> trimeta, with dd can happen
[19:15] <TJ-> Bashing-om: reading the backlog but having difficulty piecing together the current situ. Can you summarise?
[19:15] <Bashing-om> TJ-: erxr3 :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13037542/ .
[19:15] <ioria> trimeta, reformat and dd  again
[19:16] <TJ-> Bashing-om: erxr3 yes, saw that, but there's no context. I thought there's a chroot involved here somewhere?
[19:16] <trimeta> ioria: I've done this multiple times, with multiple flash drives...is there anything special I should be using? A specific blocksize for dd, maybe?
[19:16] <ioria> trimeta, did you format with  fat32 ?
[19:17] <erxr3> I am trying to delete files from this encrypted home folder, because there is no more free space on the partition and therefore I cannot access my desktop
[19:17] <Bashing-om> TJ-: No I also came in here in the middle, think'n to assist in the thought process, and then found we are dealing with encryption .
[19:17] <ioria> trimeta, with gparted, i mean
[19:17] <trimeta> Why would formatting be necessary, if I'm just going to dd over the whole thing anyway?
[19:17] <erxr3> TJ_ ^
[19:17] <erxr3> sorry, TJ- ^
[19:17] <TJ-> erxr3: OK, so you've used "ecryptfs-recover-private" and mounted the user's home under /tmp/ecryptfs.XXXX ?
[19:17] <xprophetx> can anyone help me if i accidentally installed grub on my windows HDD and now i cant boot into it and just get a grub rescue prompt?
[19:17] <ioria> trimeta, well, i usually  did it ....
[19:17] <erxr3> TJ- correct
[19:17] <ioria> *do
[19:18] <TJ-> erxr3: did you also mount the target system's root file-system somewhere else?
[19:18] <trimeta> ioria: I can use fdisk to create a single FAT32 partition, and then mkfs.vfat to format it, but I'm not optimistic that will change anything.
[19:18] <ioria> trimeta, how did you download the iso ? torrent  ?
[19:19] <trimeta> Torrent, but after the problems I was having I downloaded it directly too, and cmp says the files match.
[19:19] <erxr3> TJ- following the advice of loa, I applied mkdir /mnt/fs, then mounted the target system at fs, and then chrooted fs, but after that i could not chmod the target folder, getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13035983/  (the real folder names have been changed)
[19:20] <ioria> trimeta, try  with gparted, format , and dd
[19:20] <TJ-> erxr3: OK, so you currently have "/mnt/fs/home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.Private" which you used with "ecryptfs-recover-private"
[19:21] <ioria> trimeta, don't make partition   on the usb
[19:21] <ioria> *s
[19:21] <trimeta> I'm going to try something a little different, using unetbootin to see if that works any better (and if it gives the same error regarding corruption).
[19:21] <erxr3> TJ- no, no, currently there are these: tmp/.ecryptfs/$USER/ and  /mnt/fs/home/myuser
[19:21] <ioria> trimeta, yes
[19:21] <trimeta> I'll try that next...
[19:22] <TJ-> erxr3: That's what I said ... the ecryptfs system stores the encrpyted files under /home/.ecryptfs/$USER/.Private and that is where ecryptfs-recover-private looks for and finds them.
[19:22] <erxr3> TJ- oh, sorry, i overlooked your post..sure, that's correct
[19:23] <hazamonzo> Hey folks. Simple question. Am i better to install applications like Chrome from the ubuntu repo or a download from the website? I've had issues before keeping it up to date and i can't remember if it was because the repo version or website version had issues updating
[19:24] <TJ-> erxr3: So, also, ecryptfs-recover-private mounts read-only so I recommend you do: "sudo mount --bind tmp/.ecryptfs/$USER /mnt/fs/home/$USER" and "sudo mount -o remount,rw /mnt/fs/home/$USER" then you'll have read/write access to the entire target (including user home dir) under /mnt/fs. That means if you do "sudo chroot /mnt/fs" you'll see the entire system and be able to work with it
[19:24] <erxr3> TJ- this is how it exactly looks : /mnt/fs/home/myuser/Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop
[19:24] <hazamonzo> Thoughts? :)
[19:25] <trimeta> Interesting, with unetbootin, the disk check still finds a corrupted file...but it's a different file.
[19:25] <ioria> uhmmm
[19:26] <TJ-> trimeta: dodgy USB interface/device?
[19:26] <trimeta> The thing is, I used dd earlier to put the Arch installer onto USB flash drives, and that didn't randomly have files get corrupted somehow. Is the Ubuntu iso somehow much more brittle? How could dd be screwing this up?
[19:27] <paffy> Is there a way to disable workspaces for a particular monitor? like in Gnome ^^
[19:27] <ioria> trimeta, start up disk ?
[19:27] <TJ-> trimeta: dd won't be screwing it, it simply copies blocks. If different files report corruption at different times that suggests corruption introduced during reading the files, rather than writing them
[19:27] <pauljw> hazamonzo: imho it's best to update from the repos and not worry about whether it's the latest release.  you'll keep a stable system that way.
[19:28] <erxr3> TJ- there is an error again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13040275/
[19:29] <ioria> trimeta, shutdown some services , maybe
[19:30] <TJ-> erxr3: that suggests the target mount doesn't have the /home file system mounted. Can you "pastebinit <( sudo lsblk -f; cat /mnt/fs/etc/fstab )"
[19:30] <xprophetx> in boot-repair will i lose any data by restoring MBR?
[19:31] <trimeta> ioria: OK, I tried a different drive and a different USB port. Now the disk check goes without any complaints...but at the very end, when I get the "Integrity test successful. The CD-ROM integrity test was successful. The CD-ROM is valid," it hangs again.
[19:31] <erxr3> TJ- sure, here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13040469/
[19:31] <trimeta> Although, it just occurred to me that there's a very simple explanation for all of this: I'm using a Logitech wireless keyboard. Maybe it isn't loading the drivers correctly?
[19:32] <ioria> trimeta, maybe, try a usb/ps2
[19:32] <trimeta> I don't have any lying around...but I guess I may need to change that.
[19:32] <Bashing-om> hazamonzo: Not all applications are in our repo .. case in point the proprietary google-chrome . Heed the warning " untrusted PPA" .. best advise is always when possible to remain within our repo .
[19:33] <ioria> trimeta, a spare  one, is always useful  :þ
[19:34] <TJ-> erxr3: ?? there's no lsblk output, and the file doesn't exist? That tells me the target root file system is no longer mounted at /mnt/fs
[19:34] <TJ-> erxr3: OH! are you executing these commands from INSIDE the chroot?!
[19:35] <TJ-> erxr3: the commands I give should be executed from OUTSIDE the chroot unless I say otherwise
[19:35] <erxr3> TJ- oh, sorry..
[19:36] <TJ-> erxr3: no worries, we just didn't communicate clearly :)
[19:39] <erxr3> TJ- error again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13041047/
[19:40] <erxr3> oh sorry, I forgot to add sudo chroot /mnt/fs
[19:40] <erxr3> TJ- ^
[19:40] <trimeta> ioria: Allegedly, the wireless keyboard bug was fixed in 2012...but someone else ran into it in 2015 (http://askubuntu.com/questions/589405/installing-ubuntu-server-with-wireless-keyboard-stuck-at-language-section). Doing what they did didn't help, though.
[19:41] <ghost_> Hey, how can I fix my battery percentage? It says I have many more %s than I actually have. Yesterday my laptop died with "60%"
[19:42] <nemo> so. setting up a new laptop for work.  they officially support redhat, ubuntu and centos.  Normally I choose ubuntu, but, I'm less than thrilled w/ systemd.  Recent versions of ubuntu require it right?
[19:42] <erxr3> TJ- the output of "sudo lsblk -f; cat /mnt/fs/etc/fstab" is still as before, also out of the root.
[19:42] <ioria> trimeta, so ps2/usb   keyboard ...
[19:42] <Seveas> ghost_: get a new battery that accurately reports its charge.
[19:42] <TJ-> erxr3: that is not right then! lsblk should be reporting the booted host devices plus all the chroot mounts
[19:43] <Bashing-om> nemo: Yes and no .. release 14.04 - supported until April 2019 is upstart .
[19:43] <trimeta> ioria: I guess I'll go buy one.
[19:43] <ioria> trimeta, sorry for that
[19:44] <ghost_> Seveas: The problem is that worked correctly three days ago
[19:44] <erxr3> TJ- when i go to the folder, I see an empty folder named "fstab.d" under mnt/fs/etc
[19:44] <TJ-> erxr3: as a (complicated) example here's what lsblk shows me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13041503/
[19:45] <ghost_> Seveas: The problem is that worked correctly three days ago
[19:45] <erxr3> TJ- oh, no, sorry, there is a text file named fstab
[19:46] <TJ-> erxr3: OK, lets take a look at that but we need to get to the bottom of why lsblk cannot see host devices, since that may point to a wider problem on the system
[19:46] <erxr3> TJ- sorry thousand times..
[19:46] <erxr3> TJ- I just noticed that the terminal went into chroot again
[19:46] <erxr3> now I exited and can see the output
[19:47] <TJ-> erxr3: YAY :D OK, re-do the pastebinit :)
[19:47] <Pantelleria> ciao
[19:47] <Pantelleria> !list
[19:47] <TJ-> Pantelleria: welcome
[19:47] <TJ-> and bye!
[19:48] <ghost_> So, can someone actually help me? I'm sure it's software-related problem
[19:49] <TJ-> ghost_: show us "pastebinit <( for n in  /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/*; do [ -f $n ] && echo $n=$(cat $n); done )"
[19:50] <ghost_> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13042024/
[19:52] <ghost_> TJ-: It shows 99% now, I'm pretty sure it's below 40% now
[19:53] <erxr3> TJ- it is ready : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13042202/
[19:54] <TJ-> ghost_: that shows the battery can now only hold  86% of its design capacity, which indicates it is coming to the end of its life. cycle_count=0 indicates the battery also doesn't correctly report how many discharge cycles it has gone through, so its impossible to know what condition it should be in
[19:54] <ghost_> TJ-: So it's a hardware problem? Uh
[19:54] <TJ-> ghost_: how old is the battery?
[19:54] <ghost_> TJ-: Year and two months, I think
[19:55] <ramn> I just upgraded to 15.10, and now there is a new UI element in the bottom left, which expands when I hover the mouse and it shows icons for some running apps. How can I remove this thing?
[19:55] <nemo> Bashing-om: oh. good.
[19:55] <ramn> and what is the name of it
[19:55] <TJ-> ghost_: from what you have described it sounds like the battery is failing
[19:55] <nemo> Bashing-om: the sucky thing ofc is that it is kinda out of date for things like releases of svn and git and such
[19:55] <nemo> Bashing-om: but there are always PPAs for those
[19:55] <wileee> ramn, Gnome shell desktop?
[19:55] <TJ-> erxr3: OK, can you now show me "pastebinit <( mount )" from OUTSIDE the chroot
[19:55] <ST-84> Hey
[19:55] <ramn> wileee: ye
[19:55] <nemo> Bashing-om: aight. 2019 is fine. guess I'll use 14.04 for now. can figure out other options by then
[19:56] <ST-84> I cant seem to be able to do threading in ubuntu
[19:56] <ST-84> DSO missing from command line
[19:56] <ST-84> That is the error i keep getting
[19:56] <ST-84> then i add -lpthread as compiler flag
[19:56] <ST-84> Same error
[19:56] <ghost_> TJ-: Ugh, thank you then. Also screw lenovo for putting failing hardware in their products (hdd has also failed)
[19:56] <ST-84> It also happens when i use the Boost library
[19:56] <TJ-> ghost_: Ouch :(
[19:56] <ramn> wileee: I don't know what the thing is called so it's hard to google for
[19:57] <Bashing-om> nemo: Well .. if ya stay within 'buntu's package management system ( our repo) one avoids that dependency hell that PPA's can get one into .
[19:57] <wileee> ramn, not sure removable, look in https://extensions.gnome.org/ for a hide
[19:57] <TJ-> ST-84: you might be better in ##programming
[19:57] <ghost_> TJ-: It was showing as "old age" month after I've bought it, yeah. Thanks again, goodnight
[19:57] <ST-84> TJ-, But this is a Ubuntu based problem
[19:57] <ramn> wileee: do you know what it is called?
[19:57] <ST-84> I did not have this on Arch, Fedora nor suse
[19:58] <wileee> ramn, So your sure this is the gnome shell not the fallback?
[19:58] <nemo> Bashing-om: yeah, that's usually my preference, but unfortunately the LTS stuff can get pretty out of date and missing fixes
[19:58] <nemo> Bashing-om: like, had to add a ppa for git just to get semi-functional webdav.
[19:59] <ramn> wileee: Thanks I found the solution: https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/967/hide-legacy-tray/
[19:59] <ioria> ST-84, try to put  put   -lpthread  at  the end
[20:00] <erxr3> TJ- sure, here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13042507/
[20:00] <TJ-> ST-84: OK, what source package / version are you trying to build?
[20:00] <wileee> ramn, Cool, I like it compared to the old, but to each our own. ;)
[20:00] <ST-84> TJ-, My own software
[20:01] <ST-84> TJ-, I program :)
[20:01] <ramn> wileee: yes might be better but it constantly covers a few pixels down there
[20:01] <Guest68142> hexchat ?
[20:01] <Bashing-om> nemo: System Administrartion, YO ! .. Latest git : https://launchpad.net/~git-core/+archive/ubuntu/ppa .
[20:01] <wileee> ramn, Ah, understandable.
[20:01] <TJ-> erxr3: OK, now I've got a good clear idea of where you are :) "sudo mount -io remount,rw /mnt/fs/home/paro" will make the F.S. read/write.
[20:02] <nemo> Bashing-om: yep. that's the PPA I added
[20:02] <nemo> Bashing-om: also added another for ancient svn
[20:02] <TJ-> ST-84: so do I. Sounds like either you have a circular dependency or you're missing -lm
[20:02] <nemo> (in 14.04)
[20:03] <ioria> trimeta, or -lrt
[20:03] <wileee> Guest68142, What your need?
[20:03] <TJ-> erxr3: and then when you do "sudo chroot /mnt/fs" you can then do "df" and check usage, and e.g. "du -d 2 /home/parp" to check where space is used in the user home directory
[20:03] <ioria> ST-84, ot  -lrt
[20:03] <wileee> What's*
[20:04] <Bashing-om> nemo: :) that be a good start .. As you know .. exercise care .. PPAs can and do break the system. Clever programmer can make coding for the kernel, can not predict what other programmers interfaces will be/do  .
[20:04] <TJ-> erxr3: and then when you do "sudo chroot /mnt/fs" you can then do "df" and check usage, and e.g. "du -d 2 /home/parp" to check where space is used in the user home directory
[20:06] <erxr3> TJ-  the error again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13042752/
[20:07] <Guest68142>  
[20:08] <Guest68142> i like this software
[20:08] <TJ-> erxr3: that is weird; I do that operation daily and never experience that issue. *thinking*
[20:08] <Guest68142> whrite in python ?
[20:09] <wileee> Guest68142, Cool, let us know if you need help, for chat #ubuntu-offtopic  ;)
[20:09] <Guest68142> u used python or another language ?
[20:09] <TJ-> erxr3: let's try it a different way. "sudo umount /mnt/fs/home/paro; sudo mount --bind -io remount,rw /tmp/ecryptfs.eg2eRmDe /mnt/fs/home/paro"
[20:13] <erxr3> TJ- another error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13043018/
[20:14] <TJ-> erxr3: OK, so it didn't like the remount and --bind at the same time. I was trying to beat the original error!
[20:15] <TJ-> erxr3: Let's try yet another way: "sudo mount -io remount,rw /tmp/ecryptfs.eg2eRmDe; sudo mount --bind /tmp/ecryptfs.eg2eRmDe /mnt/fs/home/paro"
[20:17] <paffy> Hey guys. How do I run an app from terminal without it attaching to my current terminal? I just want to open it outside the terminal sort of.
[20:17] <ioria> &
[20:18] <paffy> ioria: ok that's what I thought. I guess it's a problem with the program then.
[20:18] <erxr3> TJ- YESSSSS!
[20:18] <ioria> paffy, whatprogram ?
[20:18] <erxr3> TJ- it worked!
[20:18] <paffy> ioria: "pstorm", a command line tool for PhpStorm IDE.
[20:18] <TJ-> erxr3: I knew we'd get there eventually! Now you can do "sudo chroot /mnt/fs" and then "df" and "du -d 2 /home/paro"  to check the usage
[20:18] <paffy> ioria: it's supposed to let me open a project from cmd line.
[20:19] <Juanes> hi there
[20:19] <TJ-> erxr3: and you can remove files as needed
[20:19] <ioria> paffy, i see
[20:20] <erxr3> TJ- yes i just could remove. thank you so very much!
[20:20] <paffy> ioria: How would you word the issue for a google search? I don't know the terminology of this very well :P
[20:21] <erxr3> TJ- specially for showing me all solution possibilities
[20:21] <ioria> paffy, i'm downloading it ... but no clue
[20:22] <TJ-> paffy: "man nohup" might help
[20:24] <erxr3> TJ- I will check my access to other system, and be back in a short while
[20:24] <paffy> TJ-: "nohup pstorm . &" does work at least, ty.
[20:25] <TJ-> paffy: you don't need '&' that puts the process into the background. nohup detaches the process from the current terminal.
[20:26] <ioria> paffy, needs a key  ...
[20:26] <paffy> TJ-: "nohup pstorm ." didn't work
[20:27] <paffy> ioria: You can choose 30 dey evaluation
[20:27] <TJ-> paffy: what are you expecting 'pstorm' to do?
[20:27] <ioria> paffy, ok
[20:27] <paffy> TJ-: It's a python script that launches a java app (an IDE)
[20:28] <paffy> TJ-: and "pstorm ." should open the current directory as a project.
[20:29] <TJ-> paffy: I'd inspect 'pstorm' itself then
[20:30] <ioria> paffy, alt +F2
[20:30] <ioria> paffy, with complete  path
[20:30] <ioria> paffy, no terminal
[20:31] <paffy> ioria: yup that works
[20:31] <ioria> paffy, good
[20:31] <test123> what is with the "/nick" not working. I am dave1947'
[20:32] <ioria> paffy, it's cool
[20:32] <ioria> paffy, but too heavy for my  system
[20:33] <paffy> ioria: yeah it is. awesome to work with tho.
[20:33] <ioria> paffy, ^_^
[20:33] <test123> i guess a Drone won't answer :)
[20:34] <Bashing-om> test123: ' /nick dave1947 ' should have a positive resilt .
[20:34] <TJ-> Bashing-om: that user is already online; he must have ghosted
[20:35] <TJ-> Bashing-om: probably didn't read the client's server console
[20:35] <userix> .
[20:35] <userix> Bastante br aqui ?
[20:35] <userix> kkk
[20:35] <Bashing-om> TJ-: Uh huh .. as per your usual .. some kine of fast you are .
[20:42] <inteus> !pt | userix
[20:44] <flyboy21> what is a good source to talk about programs for linux
[20:44] <haskell_> I am trying to visit a website, but it says connection refused, does that mean my ip is blocked?
[20:44] <TJ-> haskell_: Or the server is no longer there
[20:44] <ioria> try a free proxy
[20:45] <TJ-> flyboy21: 'talk' in what way?
[20:45] <flyboy21> well I am new to linux and looking for basic programs to replace some windows apps
[20:45] <flyboy21> did not know if there is a node just for this sort of chat
[20:46] <TJ-> flyboy21: Hmmm, not sure on that. Possibly ##linux although sometimes that gets a bit distracted, and is more technical than you might want
[20:46] <flyboy21> that might help
[20:46] <flyboy21> i can give it a try, thank you
[20:47] <TJ-> flyboy21: possibly #ubuntu-offtopic but thats usually trivial chat
[20:52] <Pr0x1mu5> can someone explain me how i can dual boot from surface pro 1
[20:52] <Pr0x1mu5> this is the most idiotic computer that i have ever had my hands on
[20:52] <Pr0x1mu5> no tutorial works for it
[20:54] <CraigyDavi> Pr0x1mu5, not sure if you tried this one https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/windows but it worked well for me (windows 10)
[20:54] <haskell_> TJ, I can access it from one server but not another
[20:55] <haskell_> TJ, I can access it from one country*** but not another
[20:59] <trimeta> I'm in the ubuntu-server ncurses-based installer, and I'm trying to configure some encrypted volumes manually. I set up a couple of disks and was able to do this successfully (by formatting the disk as encrypted volume, then going to "configure encrypted volumes" and activating those volumes), but some other partitions refuse to appear in the "configure encrypted volumes" options even though they also were set up as "physical volume
[21:03] <UBu> hi
[21:03] <UBu> so
[21:03] <UBu> I am having some problem
[21:03] <UBu> s
[21:03] <UBu> I'm running my java application
[21:03] <UBu> but
[21:03] <UBu> when I do java -jar <my application>
[21:03] <UBu> It's missing some jars
[21:04] <UBu> that are already inbuilt
[21:04] <UBu> in it?
[21:05] <wileee> I'd like to see you on an fmri
[21:05] <wileee> saying that
[21:12] <UBu> wileee: What do you mean?
[21:12] <UBu> wileee: My dependencies are compiled with it
[21:12] <UBu> wileee: Plus it works on my computer
[21:12] <UBu> wileee: just not my dedi
[21:13] <wileee> UBu, kinda disjunct, we all do it. ;) a complete straight sentence would be understood, less enter. ;)
[21:13] <inteus> UBu: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation.
[21:13] <erxr3> hello back everyone, I've had multiple issues today, and would like to seek your help again in these. I've been moving files to external drive, and using gnome disk utility to create and access partitions. while moving files, it first happened that the process froze, including everything else on the computer, except the cursor moving.
[21:13] <erxr3> then came irregularities in using power-off button of disk utility, like it close the whole window when clicked on.
[21:14] <erxr3> and the next thing was a partition taking ages to open or close.
[21:14] <erxr3> sometimes never happening
[21:15] <erxr3> after these incidents within a day or two, I now had to lose a partition on my external drive, which i thought was created properly in the previous session.
[21:15] <erxr3> it is shown with "unknown" label instead of "file system ext4.."
[21:16] <wileee> erxr3, one issue at a time with details, for help.
[21:16] <erxr3> wileee, this is all one single issue, i guess
[21:16] <erxr3> because it all happened while moving files
[21:16] <erxr3> and in gnome disk utility
[21:16] <erxr3> and to same drives
[21:17] <erxr3> one drive was affected more (like 4 partitions) and the other only one partition.
[21:17] <erxr3> what might have caused this?
[21:18] <bprompt> erxr3:    so, when you were in the middle of resizing partitions, some "data" was being moved, and the partitioning tool was hanging, and then you did a force poweroff ?
[21:18] <UBu> anyone know the fix to my problem?
[21:20] <erxr3> bprompt, what first happened was that the file transfer to external drive stopped, and didnt ever resume, so that I had to force power-off..but after this I could continue creating partitions. yet this happened a few more times, with shorter hangings.
[21:20] <bprompt> UBu:    as often said here, the "enter" key is not a punctuation character, is simpler to keep it in a line or two, rather than scattered all over the lot, keep it concise and in a line or two, makes it readable
[21:21] <UBu> bprompt: that was all on one line?
[21:21] <erxr3> the second irregularity that came after was that the power-off button of disk utility didnt close the drives properly. it often closed the whole window, or left the drive name in the device list after removal
[21:21] <bprompt> UBu:    ahemm nope
[21:21] <UBu> bprompt: [21:18] <UBu> anyone know the fix to my problem?
[21:22] <bprompt> right... which we dunno what that is
[21:22] <erxr3> and the last irregularity was that the disk utility remained hanging forever while unlocking-locking certain partitions
[21:23] <bprompt> erxr3:    well, once the system is b0rked from the first "irregularity", sure, expect more to come, but that's expectable
[21:23] <erxr3> after all these, i was still able to create partitions properly until the last session, in which I thought I completed the transfers. but in the next session, I saw that more than one drive had partition losses. some with only one lost, some several partitions.
[21:24] <erxr3> bprompt, what might have borked the system?
[21:24] <bprompt> erxr3:    well, the force shutdown I'd think
[21:24] <Jymmm> Is anyone familiar with netbook build?
[21:25] <bprompt> erxr3:   and the fact that you could "run the partition tool" and make partitions afterwards, simply means, the partitiion tool could run, and the hdd wasn't bad, is all, doesn't mean the partitions or files were in good state
[21:26] <bprompt> erxr3:     so... as wileee  suggested... . one at a time.... you were partitioning, and gnome partitioning tool was hanging, and in the middle of it, what again?
[21:27] <erxr3> bprompt, then, as I wrote, the power-off began to work strangely..
[21:27] <TJ-> erxr3: 'external drive' - connected how, USB2 ?
[21:28] <erxr3> TJ- I think so. it was an earlier drive
[21:28] <erxr3> bprompt, so you mean it wouldnt be caused by HDD?
[21:28] <bprompt> erxr3:    did I read you correctly, you gnome partitioning tool froze while resizing partitions, and you forced a shutdown?
[21:29] <zubuntu> hi
[21:29] <bprompt> allo
[21:29] <erxr3> bprompt, not while resizing, but while transferring files from one drive to another
[21:29] <zubuntu> well
[21:29] <zubuntu> i am using pc dual boot win 10 and ubuntu 14.04
[21:29] <istvan> hi beszel valaki magyarul?
[21:29] <zubuntu> how can i set windows bootloader (easyBCD) as default?
[21:29] <TJ-> erxr3: when things look to be going wrong, the first thing to do is examine the log files. For disks, my first suspect is I/O errors, and I check /var/log/kern.log.
[21:30] <zubuntu> now grub2 - ubuntu is default one
[21:30] <TJ-> erxr3: I'd also check /var/log/syslog, and /home/$USER/.xsession-errors if using the GUI
[21:30] <bprompt> erxr3:    ok.... so, you were moving files from internal hdd to external hdd I assume, drag and drop I gather, and the moving process was hanging and then you forced a shutdown?
[21:30] <zubuntu> anyone help pls?
[21:31] <bprompt> zubuntu:    hmmm I thought easyBCD was meant to be easy :), I"ve done BCD editing but manually using bcdedit and the whole UUID string, no easyBCD yet though
[21:31] <erxr3> bprompt, correct, except that not by drag and drop, but by cut-paste, if that has significance
[21:31] <wileee> zubuntu, easybcd is only a 3rd bootloader, not supported here and a bad idea.
[21:32] <TJ-> zubuntu: if you're dual-booting Windows 10 that infers the PC uses UEFI, so Windows and Ubuntu should be entries in the UEFI boot menu.
[21:32] <zubuntu> wileee: so what can i do?
[21:32] <wileee> zubuntu, follow TJ- info.
[21:32] <zubuntu> how can i get into UEFI boot menu TJ- ?
[21:32] <EriC^^> zubuntu: you want windows first in the grub menu? or you want easybcd to be booted and choose ubuntu or windows from there?
[21:32] <zubuntu> in my boot menu i never seen it
[21:32] <zubuntu> EriC^^: i want default windows boot menu
[21:33] <zubuntu> i dont like purple boot menu of ubuntu at all
[21:33] <zubuntu> i installed ubuntu
[21:33] <TJ-> zubuntu: the UEFI setup should provide access to it, but from a Linux boot, 'efibootmgr' accesses it
[21:33] <zubuntu> then i set easyBCD entry
[21:33] <zubuntu> but ubuntu didnt boot
[21:33] <EriC^^> zubuntu: well do you know how to add ubuntu there? cant help you with that but i can get you to have easybcd boot i guess
[21:33] <zubuntu> then i set grub in ubuntu again
[21:33] <zubuntu> and then it booted
[21:33] <zubuntu> to ubuntu
[21:33] <zubuntu> but set default ubuntu boot menu
[21:34] <bprompt> erxr3:   check the logs as TJ-  suggested, to see why the system froze or what process was hanging,    but I'd think that, some open files or inodes ended up broken or corrupted due to the force shutdown, doesn't happen always, you could also try going to "recovery mode" and use the root console from that menu, to do an "fsck"
[21:34] <EriC^^> zubuntu: you mean you tried adding ubuntu to easybcd but it didn't boot ubuntu? didn't follow you there
[21:34] <zubuntu> well if i have an option i dont like 3rd party bootmanager to have
[21:34] <zubuntu> EriC^^: yes at first try it didnt boot into ubuntu
[21:34] <UBu> I still don't have a fix for my problem :/
[21:34] <EriC^^> zubuntu: you can change the colors in grub and even put a background i think
[21:35] <zubuntu> after i installed ubuntu
[21:35] <zubuntu> i just like the way of windows boot menu :/
[21:35] <zubuntu> i dont know what is wrong with easybcd
[21:36] <zubuntu> it didnt boot to ubuntu when i added entry there
[21:36] <EriC^^> what did you add there?
[21:36] <zubuntu> i had to repair the grub in ubuntu live cd
[21:36] <bprompt> zubuntu:   well, if  you don't like the 3rd party, MS has bcdedit.exe :) easyBCD is just a frontend for it anyway
[21:36] <EriC^^> i mean what did you add to easyBCD?
[21:37] <zubuntu> bprompt: really
[21:37]  * wileee voted uefi boot keep it simple
[21:37] <zubuntu> how can i reach there?
[21:37] <zubuntu> EriC^^: i added Linux entry
[21:37] <zubuntu> hmm i think i did it wrong
[21:37] <EriC^^> with what path?
[21:37] <zubuntu> i didnt choose sda4 in there
[21:37] <TJ-> I'm confused as to why zubuntu is messing with the OS boot-manager, rather than letting UEFI do its job so each OS-specific boot-manager only needs to load its own OS
[21:37] <bprompt> zubuntu:     you'd run it off a cmd/terminal session, in windows or a winPE session
[21:37] <erxr3> bprompt, I dont have a visible problem with the working of the computer or the files transferred to still-intact partitions (assuming from the preservation of total file sizes in partitions, also skimming through them). now I ended up with a single partition with critical data in it, and it is only that I wish to recover. but just I'd like to know, too, if my HDD or RAM needs a replacement.
[21:37] <tron103> With debian-installer, does anyone know how to stop ethdetect and netcfg from running?
[21:37] <zubuntu> TJ-: i really dont know to use UEFI
[21:38] <zubuntu> i am not professional at ubuntu
[21:38] <zubuntu> i am newbie
[21:38] <TJ-> zubuntu: UEFI is the firmware (think BIOS) on the PC itself.
[21:38] <zubuntu> let me check bcdedit.exe
[21:39] <bprompt> zubuntu:   https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709667(v=ws.10).aspx  <--- bcdedit.exe
[21:39] <erxr3> bprompt, that said, disk utility has been showing one error on my HDD for months, like "disk is OK, with one error" or similar...lately this had become "disk is OK, with one failing attribute"..
[21:39] <EriC^^> zubuntu: you need to add /EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi to the easyBCD to boot ubuntu
[21:39] <zubuntu> TJ-: never viewed UEFI in my pc :/
[21:39] <TJ-> zubuntu: The boot process goes UEFI start-up > UEFI boot manager > OS boot-manager > OS bootloader > OS
[21:39] <zubuntu> thx bprompt
[21:39] <zubuntu> thx EriC^^
[21:39] <EriC^^> zubuntu: you don't point it to the partition that has ubuntu, you point it to the efi partition, usually the 1st or 2nd partition in the drive
[21:39] <TJ-> zubuntu: Hmmm... I'm pretty sure Windows 10 requires UEFI; anyone else know for usre?
[21:39] <erxr3> I'd asked about this HDD error earlier, and I was informed that it wouldn't mean an immediate risk, but that I had to keep an eye on it
[21:39] <EriC^^> zubuntu: it'll be a fat32 partition, in case that helps
[21:40] <EriC^^> TJ-: not all
[21:40] <zubuntu> EriC^^: i think i couldnt add the entry properly in EasyBCD
[21:40] <zubuntu> i dont remember choosing sda4 in there
[21:40] <erxr3> so, my first question would be how I could find out where the problem lies
[21:40] <zubuntu> by the way which ubuntu version do you suggest?
[21:40] <EriC^^> zubuntu: i doubt it's sda4
[21:40] <zubuntu> it is EriC^^
[21:40] <EriC^^> zubuntu: are you on ubuntu right now?
[21:40] <zubuntu> i installed ubuntu to sda4
[21:41] <zubuntu> yes EriC^^
[21:41] <EriC^^> zubuntu: sda4 is the fat32 efi partition?
[21:41] <zubuntu> yes
[21:41] <EriC^^> yeah read above
[21:41] <EriC^^> zubuntu: you don't point it to the partition that has ubuntu, you point it to the efi partition, usually the 1st or 2nd partition in the drive
[21:41] <TJ-> erxr3: "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda" look for errors in the SMART log, look for reallocated sector count in the table
[21:41] <zubuntu> EriC^^:  well sda0 was empty partition
[21:41] <zubuntu> sda1 windows
[21:41] <zubuntu> sda2 was windows logical partition
[21:41] <EriC^^> zubuntu: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[21:41] <zubuntu> sda4 was ubuntu
[21:42] <EriC^^> it'll make things clear
[21:42] <wileee> erxr3, HD fail, be backed up is your best plan, it could blow up any time, law of averages, no warning.
[21:42] <zubuntu> ok
[21:42] <bprompt> erxr3:   as TJ-  suggested, the logs would be a good stop, as far as your ram and hdd.... we dunno if they're that bad or otherwise
[21:43] <erxr3> wileee, sure, back-ups are always there, but when several drives get borked together like here, you're caught unaware
[21:43] <zubuntu> EriC^^: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=xJ1ud9zY
[21:44] <EriC^^> wow i'm blocked there
[21:44] <wileee> erxr3, Sure, was this a user error though, you seemed to press forward with freeze after freeze?
[21:44] <EriC^^> zubuntu: can you paste in paste.ubuntu.com?
[21:44] <zubuntu> ok
[21:44] <malmonte> Hello
[21:44] <erxr3> bprompt, TJ- sure, then I will get back to the other machine and see the logs..I also had the error messages of partitions while these anomalies happened. I hope I still have them there in this turmoil. then I can show them to you, too
[21:45] <zubuntu> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13048019/
[21:45] <erxr3> wileee, no, I only power-shut in the first incident
[21:45] <erxr3> the later freezes took quite long to resume, but they did
[21:45] <zubuntu> cool that ubuntu has paste now :)
[21:45] <wileee> erxr3, Ah, well you have good help, I'm just biased on having your booty covered no matter what, if needed.
[21:46] <zubuntu>  3      198GB   206GB  8191MB  extended  5      198GB   206GB  8191MB  logical
[21:46] <zubuntu> what is extended??
[21:46] <zubuntu> and same size?
[21:47] <EriC^^> that's like a container for the logical partitions, so you can have more primary partitions
[21:47] <zubuntu> EriC^^: should i set swap area primary or logical?
[21:47] <EriC^^> it doesn't matter
[21:48] <EriC^^> anyways, you're using legacy not uefi
[21:48] <zubuntu> so what do u suggest?
[21:48] <erxr3> bprompt, TJ- and how can I make sure the external drives are still usable? I'd heard that wiping them with dd might show they're intact if it exits with no errors..also I heard of badblocks, but it reads that it takes quite long
[21:48] <EriC^^> i've no idea how to set easybcd to boot ubuntu
[21:48] <zubuntu> is it ok to give 30+ gb to ubuntu?
[21:48] <zubuntu> EriC^^: i think i know how to
[21:48] <EriC^^> maybe if you install grub to the partition itself not the mbr of the disk
[21:48] <zubuntu> as i said i forgot to define the partition in easybcd
[21:48] <EriC^^> and point easybcd to boot that
[21:49] <zubuntu> is there a way not to use easybcd?
[21:49] <zubuntu> as bprompt said?
[21:49] <EriC^^> zubuntu: i dont think easybcd can boot ubuntu like that, maybe if you install grub to the partition though
[21:49] <EriC^^> let me see..
[21:49] <zubuntu> ok
[21:50] <wileee> in the past with easybcd to get a boot back to windows to use, grub went to /
[21:50] <BlueProtoman> My "Applications" menu in the upper left corner (in GNOME classic) is broken!  When I click it, the menu doesn't appear.  Rebooting my computer (Ubuntu 15.04) does not help.  Any tips?
[21:50] <wileee> with a dualboot ubuntu after
[21:51] <EriC^^> zubuntu: yeah, it's right
[21:51] <EriC^^> "Assuming that Windows is already installed, install Ubuntu on another partition. Make sure that you install Grub2 on the Ubuntu partition - don't install it on the MBR"
[21:51] <EriC^^> zubuntu: check here http://askubuntu.com/questions/62440/is-it-possible-to-boot-ubuntu-using-the-windows-bootloader/62442#62442
[21:51] <sftrabbit> Just installed Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 today, and reducing my screen brightness (either with the function key or through the power settings) is causing my display to turn off. I've been having to do a hard shutdown when it happens. Increasing the brightness is fine. It's an Asus N56V laptop. Any ideas?
[21:51] <zubuntu> ok
[21:51] <EriC^^> so run, sudo grub-install /dev/sda4
[21:52] <bprompt> erxr3:    the trend is, when the hdd comes up with errors, it deteriorates further later on as time, and usage, goes by, so.... how to ensure the hdd are still good? if external, chances, they still are, unless you've bumped them somewhere, or damage them physically
[21:53] <zubuntu> EriC^^: grub-install: error: will not proceed with blocklists.
[21:54] <TJ-> zubuntu: create a BIOS boot partition
[21:54] <zubuntu> in easybcd TJ- ?
[21:54] <TJ-> zubuntu: it'll need about 2MB to be safe
[21:54] <TJ-> zubuntu: for GRUB
[21:54] <zubuntu> but it didnt happen before
[21:54] <erxr3> bprompt, sure, you're right about HDD..could I rely on the referred tests for checking the integrity of external drives?
[21:54] <zubuntu> i used ubuntu and windows both before many times
[21:55] <zubuntu> with easybcd
[21:55] <KK6AXQ> I am trying to dual boot 2 instances of Ubuntu 14.04LTS on the same computer. How do I do that?
[21:55] <zubuntu> just i faced some errors for a week
[21:55] <TJ-> zubuntu: In MBR partition tables, a BIOS boot partition is type 4
[21:56] <Vieira-Ubuntu> Fala galera
[21:56] <zubuntu> i wish i understand what i should do TJ- :/
[21:56] <bprompt> erxr3:     I'd say yes
[21:56] <zubuntu> i am not so good with ubuntu codes and other things
[21:56] <KK6AXQ> Anybody?
[21:56] <Vieira-Ubuntu> Maybe
[21:57] <KK6AXQ> Can you help me?
[21:57] <Vieira-Ubuntu> I'm terrible with Ubuntu codes
[21:57] <zubuntu> me too
[21:57] <Vieira-Ubuntu> Are you from ?
[21:57] <KK6AXQ> Does anybody here have experience with dual booting the same versions of ubuntu
[21:57] <zubuntu> turkey
[21:57] <zubuntu> u?
[21:58] <Vieira-Ubuntu> Wow
[21:58] <Vieira-Ubuntu> I'm from Brazil
[21:58] <TJ-> KK6AXQ: one install of GRUB, let one OS manage GRUB config.
[21:58] <zubuntu> KK6AXQ: never tried
[21:58] <zubuntu> why do u need same ubuntu?
[21:58] <EriC^^> KK6AXQ: just install as usual
[21:58] <Bashing-om> KK6AXQ: What is the problem ? The install option "install along side" will happily install the other instance . ( I multi-boot too ) .
[21:58] <KK6AXQ> So just run the ubuntu installer twice?
[21:58] <KK6AXQ> one for each partition
[21:58] <zubuntu> nice to meet u Vieira-Ubuntu
[21:59] <KK6AXQ> Ok I just didn't know if GRUB could handle mutliple instances of the same version
[21:59] <zubuntu> which version of ubuntu do you sugges?
[21:59] <zubuntu> t
[21:59] <Vieira-Ubuntu> Pleasure is mine
[22:00] <zubuntu> EriC^^:
[22:00] <erxr3> bprompt, TJ-  and one more thing I forgot to say (due to the mess here, sorry), while these strange behaviours were happening, I often failed to create partitions, with the following kind of error: paste.ubuntu.com/13005683
[22:00] <TJ-> KK6AXQ: it'll be confusing since menu entry titles will be identical in some cases
[22:00] <zubuntu> which version do u suggest?
[22:00] <Vieira-Ubuntu> My version Ubuntu is... 15.10
[22:00] <zubuntu> i couldnt install 15.10
[22:00] <bazhang> !lts | zubuntu
[22:00] <Bashing-om> KK6AXQ: Yhere can be but one boot code per hard drive in the legacy (MBR) scheme . Last installed/updated will be that controlling authority .
[22:01] <Vieira-Ubuntu> But i installed the Gnome 3
[22:01] <Vieira-Ubuntu> interface
[22:01] <KK6AXQ> How could I change that?
[22:01] <zubuntu> so you say 14.04 bazhang
[22:01] <zubuntu> hmm
[22:01] <TJ-> erxr3: that looks simply as if the constraints in the call to parted couldn't be satisfied
[22:01] <zubuntu> i use classic gnome also Vieira-Ubuntu
[22:01] <Vieira-Ubuntu> I also used this
[22:01] <zubuntu> i like it
[22:01] <Vieira-Ubuntu> me too
[22:02] <bazhang> Vieira-Ubuntu, you installed gnome-shell ?
[22:02] <Vieira-Ubuntu> Yes
[22:02] <EriC^^> zubuntu: i suggest 14.04
[22:02] <zubuntu> i miss 10.04
[22:02] <zubuntu> thx EriC^^
[22:02] <bazhang> so logout and choose a different one Vieira-Ubuntu
[22:02] <Vieira-Ubuntu> ^
[22:03] <EriC^^> zubuntu: i think ubuntu mate is similar to the 10.04 ubuntu version
[22:03] <Vieira-Ubuntu> Why ?
[22:03] <zubuntu> i didnt like mate
[22:03] <Vieira-Ubuntu> i'm using 15.10 perfectly
[22:03] <EriC^^> zubuntu: not sure, just guessing
[22:03] <EriC^^> zubuntu: aha
[22:03] <erxr3> also another one of the same kind: paste.ubuntu.com/12983637
[22:03] <bazhang> Vieira-Ubuntu, you said you wanted to change from gnome-shell to something else, thats why
[22:03] <zubuntu> i was expecting new icon set in ubuntu for 2 years
[22:03] <zubuntu> but nothing changed
[22:03] <Daisy> hello?
[22:04] <Seveas> hi!
[22:04] <zubuntu> hi Daisy
[22:04] <Daisy> that's good
[22:04] <Vieira-Ubuntu> Zubuntu, To update you will need to make the terminal
[22:04] <Daisy> you won't get confused
[22:04] <Vieira-Ubuntu> put the code
[22:04] <bazhang> daisy did you have an ubuntu support question
[22:04] <bazhang> Vieira-Ubuntu, there is no code to put
[22:05] <Vieira-Ubuntu> sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:05] <zubuntu> lol
[22:05] <Daisy> bazhang that depends
[22:05] <bazhang> daisy this is ubuntu support please ask if so
[22:05] <iraqicode> hello
[22:05] <iraqicode> how are you guys
[22:05] <iraqicode> im new here
[22:05] <Daisy> bazhang OK OK OK
[22:05] <Vieira-Ubuntu> Yes there is
[22:06] <bazhang> daisy if you just wish to chit chat then #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:06] <Daisy> so here's the question
[22:06] <zubuntu> Daisy: if u are interested in ubuntu i can help you darling :p
[22:06] <Daisy> what are pros and cons of installing Ubuntu over Android on my laptop?
[22:06] <Bashing-om> iraqicode: This is ubuntu support channel, you have an ubuntu question ?
[22:06] <zubuntu> Daisy: i always prefer ubuntu
[22:06] <zubuntu> it is more reliable
[22:07] <erxr3> TJ- this is the output of ~'/.xsession-errors: paste.ubuntu.com/13048831  I have also log and syslog, but I dont know what kind of error I would need to look for in them
[22:07] <zubuntu> and stable
[22:07] <Daisy> could you elaborate a bit zubuntu?
[22:07] <zubuntu> android sounds to me cheap
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> Daisy  that question is more for #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:07] <zubuntu> Daisy: ubuntu is real OS
[22:07] <Daisy> I use Android on daily basis
[22:07] <Daisy> and it works great
[22:08] <zubuntu> try ubuntu then
[22:08] <Daisy> I did once before
[22:08] <zubuntu> you wont regret ;)
[22:08] <Daisy> but it had issues with my graphic card so I gave up
[22:08] <zubuntu> hmm
[22:08] <Daisy> it was to new card
[22:08] <zubuntu> what tablet do you use?
[22:09] <Daisy> nexus 7
[22:09] <zubuntu> ok
[22:09] <Tisgh> Yo
[22:09] <Tisgh> https://lwn.net/Articles/659199/
[22:09] <Tisgh> ??
[22:09] <Daisy> ?
[22:09] <zubuntu> bazhang: seems to kick you Daisy lol
[22:09] <bprompt> Daisy:     you use android on... your laptop?  chromebook?
[22:09] <Daisy> normal laptop
[22:10] <zubuntu> ibmt43: cool
[22:10] <zubuntu> i use x201 thinkpad
[22:10] <bprompt> Daisy:   meaning, you have a chromebook.... hmmm ok... so.. .and you're wondering on running ubuntu there as well?  I'd think you could dual boot it
[22:11] <zubuntu> EriC^^: i guess installing ubuntu again will fix the problem
[22:11] <zubuntu> bbl then
[22:11] <bprompt> Daisy:   pros and cons?   depends on what you need it for
[22:11] <Vieira-Ubuntu> zubuntu, u wnat the upgrade for which version ?
[22:11] <zubuntu> i dont wanna upgrade Vieira-Ubuntu
[22:12] <Vieira-Ubuntu> Oh ok!
[22:12] <bekks> xamindar: Whats "Vieira-Ubuntu"?
[22:12] <zubuntu> i was having issue with booting ubuntu and windows
[22:12] <Vieira-Ubuntu> I not like Windows
[22:12] <bekks> ah :)
[22:12] <zubuntu> i need windows mostly
[22:13] <zubuntu> see ya later
[22:14] <xNear> How to get AMD drivers running on Ubuntu 15.10?
[22:14] <xNear> AMD GPU.
[22:15] <Bashing-om> xNear: Presntly FGLRX is broken in 15.10 . The fix is in upstram. one can enable the 'proposed' repo and update . But that do have some degree of risk .
[22:16] <erxr3> bprompt, TJ- I am going through the logs, particularly the hours when the partition creation was repeatedly failed. shall I pastebin them?
[22:16] <goddard> is a gnome disks image the same as a kvm/qemu image?
[22:17] <TJ-> erxr3: if there are I/O errors reported in kern.log/syslog
[22:17] <BlueProtoman> Just filed a bug.  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alacarte/+bug/1512018
[22:17] <xNear> Bashing-om: upstream is "testing" repo?
[22:18] <xNear> unstable? you mean FGLRX is ready but not tested, yep?
[22:18] <erxr3> TJ- there are only 4 lines wit I/o but without mention of error..
[22:18] <xNear> sorry but my english suck
[22:18] <TJ-> erxr3: only errors would be important; those would indicate a hardware problem
[22:19] <Rubafix> hello
[22:19] <jeffrey_f> help free up space in boot for the 15.10.
[22:19] <Bashing-om> xNear: Yeah, in a sense "proposed" is testing .. what might be inclided in the repo . I do expect that FGLRX testing will be completed and the fix will make it to the 15.10 repo .
[22:19] <itsme1> hi guys, is there a ppa for virtualbox 5?
[22:19] <Rubafix> how can I register a script as a service, so I can use service someService start instead of going for the script?
[22:19] <xNear> how long it will take?
[22:20] <vfw> jeffrey_f: How many kernels do you have installed?
[22:20] <jeffrey_f> vfw: ?  How to tell?
[22:21] <MonkeyDust> Rubafix  guess you have to put it in /etc/init.d/
[22:22] <Bashing-om> xNear: No way to tell how long the testing will take. When 15.10 was released, AMD did not offer support for 15.10 initially ( 4,2 kernel) .. I understand that they have FGLRX working upstream and as soon as testing is completed it will be available in the 15.10 repository . You may enable 'proposed' and aid in the testing .
[22:23] <RonWhoCares> Does anyone know if Ubuntu 'Cheese' supports an HD web cam
[22:23] <vfw> jeffrey_f: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list
[22:23] <Bashing-om> xNear: See the release notes and follow the bug report for details on the status .
[22:24] <erxr3> TJ- not in syslog, but in kern.log, there are i/o errors: paste.ubuntu.com/13049247
[22:24] <vfw> jeffrey_f: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list |pastebinit
[22:24] <Rubafix> MonkeyDust: So I have to install the software in init.d? seems pretty inconvenient
[22:25] <TJ-> erxr3: Right. Those kind of errors are problems. Read the lines surrounding them to get more context, but it looks like there's one important sector of /dev/sda that is failed
[22:26] <vfw> jeffrey_f: Just start by uninstalling oldest first, but do *not* install the one you are using.  uname -a
[22:26] <moonlander> are there any docker images for snappy?
[22:27] <erxr3> TJ- this must be the one sector of HDD that has been mentioned for a while
[22:27] <vfw> jeffrey_f: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image*list |pastebinit (If you want to show us - send resulting URL.)
[22:27] <jeffrey_f> vfw: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13049309/
[22:28] <MonkeyDust> Rubafix  i assumed you had written a script and didnt know where to put it
[22:30] <TJ-> erxr3: that is likely yes; might be good to identify which file-system that is in, and what data covers that location, and try to relocate it if possible so the sector can be re-allocated by the drive
[22:30] <Rubafix> MonkeyDust: No I have manually installed a teamspeak 3 server, so it is not registered as a service and I have to rely on path to script to start or stop the server
[22:30] <xNear> Bashing-om: can you give me link? its at amd site?
[22:31] <jagger> hi guys
[22:32] <paffy> What do you guys use for cloud storage? I use Dropbox but downloading 6 gigs (400 thousand files) is taking several days...
[22:33] <MonkeyDust> paffy  try spideroak
[22:35] <jeffrey_f> vfw: Had a script stuffed away.  Found my purger script
[22:37] <Nh3xus> my eyes !
[22:37] <paffy> MonkeyDust: That's what I used before. Client was a bit slow and it didn't seem to work well on android either.
[22:38] <erxr3> TJ- I dont know how to do these, but could this kind of error cause such a mess? because I view the logs of repeated processes while I tried and failed to create partitions ,but none of these logs hint to any expression of error that is visible to me.
[22:39] <Bashing-om> xNear: see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2299981&highlight=FGLRX ; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2300920&highlight=FGLRX .
[22:39] <Guest97033> oi
[22:39] <Guest97033> o que é isso?
[22:40] <TJ-> erxr3: I don't think I/O errors were the cause of your partitioning issues. I think those were due to you asking for an impossible situation, possibly because the partitioning is already a bit messed up and confusing the tools
[22:41] <erxr3> TJ- in that case, does it mean a temporary mess?
[22:42] <TJ-> erxr3: you can hope. If you're using a GUI tool that is supposed to make sure things it asks for are sane before doing them, and the underlying tool reports an impossible situation, then something isn't good
[22:45] <erxr3> TJ- before 14.04., (if I'm not mistaken, when the gui of disk utility changed) disk utility used to seem to me a more tidy tool. I'd had one or two less significant issues with this tool. just wondering if the current situation might have to do with the tool.
[22:45] <erxr3> that is, whether I can use the machine and the drives with a clean install and dd-wiping.
[22:45] <TJ-> erxr3: I wonder if the disk has both GPT and MBR partition tables and they're not synchronised
[22:46] <xNear> Bashing-om: Can I use other than fglrx driver? I ask because I have intel+amd hybrid GPU, and vga switcheoor doesnt works for me
[22:46] <goddard> is a gnome disks image the same as a kvm/qemu image?
[22:46] <xNear> The cat of vga switcheoor file shows me that intel card is still running
[22:47] <erxr3> TJ- by the way, I just found this error, too: paste.ubuntu.com/13049616
[22:47] <erxr3> if it's an error, of course
[22:47] <TJ-> erxr3: those ACPI OpRegion bugs are pretty common. It's a fault in the manufacturer's BIOS/ACPI code.
[22:49] <Bashing-om> xNear: Well, there are other options than switcheroo , catalyst control center for one and : https://github.com/beidl/amd-indicator for another . But will require the FGLRX driver .
[22:49] <xNear> i dont know why Radeon driver doesnt work for me too
[22:50] <xNear> or i am just noob and i dont know how to turn it
[22:50] <Bashing-om> xNear: Not working in 15.10 as AMD has not provided for the 4.2 xserver stack .
[22:51] <xNear> ah, so this is why i cant switch
[22:51] <Bashing-om> xNear: Keep in mind proprietary software, "WE" do not have access to it .
[22:51] <xNear> yeah i understand this and knows meaning
[22:52] <xNear> but still, there are a lot of informations and things that us can tell me or do
[22:54] <Bashing-om> xNear: The easiest thing to do is wait for the driver to make it into wily's repository . Else enable 'proposed' and install the driver and related X server requirements, and help in testing .
[22:55] <erxr3> TJ- oh, I see..I just finished checking the logs, these are the last lines that I noted, in case they might have any significance: paste.ubuntu.com/13049834
[22:56] <xNear> ok, fine ;) thanks for help
[23:00] <Bashing-om> xNear: Not much help. But there will be options . switcheroo is for open source, when FGLRX becomes available there will be other options to switch the graphics sets .
[23:01] <erxr3> TJ- about your mentioning of GPT and MBR, could I have made a wrong selection somewhere in creating partitions? I remember having selected msdos when formatting a drive for the first time..could this be related to it?
[23:01] <xNear> Bashing-om: do you use AMD/ATI GPU or you are developer ;)?
[23:03] <Bashing-om> xNear: Well, graphics drivers are an interest . I too have had my problems. Presrntly I am running a old ATI card that AMD had dropped support for . As far as a developer .. far from it ! .. I just help where I can .
[23:04] <erxr3> but disk utility shows all drives involved as MBR
[23:11]  * ubuntu_ 
[23:11] <gera> Hello!
[23:11] <Codmadnesspro> How can I reopen a x11 window?
[23:11] <ubuntu_> er
[23:12] <ubuntu_> leave
[23:13] <Bashing-om> Codmadnesspro: Depends, what desktop, and how did you close the "window" ?
[23:14] <gera> Need to know something about my graphics card. I have a R7 360 and I think I need the drivers...
[23:14] <gera> And also, need flash for Chromium
[23:14] <erxr3> I'd like to start recovery of this partition shown as here: http://is.gd/2odFWz..I intend to create an image via ddrescue first, and then use testdisk on it. might you recommend any action while doing so?
[23:16] <Bashing-om> gera: What release are you running ? 15.10 presently has no FGLRX driver . They are working on it .
[23:20] <Codmadnesspro> Bashing-om, i've got skype running on my ubuntu server, i'm using windows 10 that has xlaunch installed and putty uses that. If I close the server on my pc I want to be able to reopen it through putty and then back to the xlaunch server
[23:20] <erxr3> could you please help me know if this command is correct to create a partition's image:  ddrescue /dev/sdc2 /mnt/sdb1/partition.img ?
[23:21] <erxr3> first being the partition to be copied, second the destination.
[23:22] <Bashing-om> Codmadnesspro: That is out of my range of experience .
[23:23] <gera> Yes Bashing-om I'm running Ubuntu 15.10...
[23:25] <erxr3> this is the command that I found, but I wonder if I do not need to specify an exact path to the image file..like not only /mnt/sdb1/partition.img, but like /mnt/sdb1/Documents/Mybackup/partition.img ?
[23:25] <Bashing-om> gera: Then the "easiest" thing is to await completion of testing in upstream - they have it working - . It will make it way to wily's repository in due time. Else well ya can enable "proposed" install the driver and Xserver and help in testing .
[23:30] <erxr3> is it better to add -d to the above ddrescue command?
[23:31] <Bashing-om> gera: see: http://theleftcoastgeek.net/index.php/2-uncategorised/8-fglrx-in-ubuntu-15-10-wily-werewolf-is-a-no-go for the write up .
[23:35] <RepThis1> anyone able to access vmwares vcenter web portal on ubuntu?
[23:36] <RepThis1> Its giving me a warning about getting a newer version of adobe flash, which could be a fundamental issue as do linux dist. get anything higher then 11.2
[23:36] <RepThis1> ?
[23:38] <OerHeks> RepThis1, what url would that be?
[23:39] <RepThis1> OerHeks: any of them setup by ur company
[23:39] <RepThis1> OerHeks: notsure if vmware has one setup itself for the public
[23:40] <RepThis1> OerHeks: i do know they had some sort of beta testing cloud thing though.
[23:45] <ubuntu_> Is backtrack still going?
[23:45] <bazhang> as kali
[23:46] <bazhang> #kali-linux ubuntu_
[23:46] <ubuntu_> I want something small with a network interface brute forcer to open up some devices I locked with ssh only.
[23:46] <ubuntu_> Also some email accounts.
[23:46] <ubuntu_> bazhang, Isn't kali chineese?
[23:46] <ubuntu_> Or is that kylin
[23:47] <bazhang> kylin
[23:47] <OerHeks> kali went back to debian too, good luck.
[23:49] <ubuntu_> OerHeks, ?
[23:49] <ubuntu_> What is so bad about debian?
[23:50] <erxr3> could you help me know how I can use testdisk with a disk image?
[23:50] <ST-84> erxr3, man testdisk
[23:51] <OerHeks> I am not giving any complaint about debian, just kali no longer uses ubuntu repos.
[23:51] <ST-84> erxr3, Or if you like GUIS! "ylep man:testdisk"
[23:51] <ST-84> yelp man:testdisk
[23:51] <erxr3> ST-84, yes, testdisk also has their own wiki, but they mention windows case only with testdisk_win.exe
[23:51] <bprompt> erxr3:    trying to get data from a "raw" filesystem?
[23:52] <ST-84> erxr3, So.
[23:52] <ST-84> I dont see problem they have man pages right?
[23:52] <TJ-> erxr3: "man testdisk" ... commandline definition is "testdisk [/log] [/debug] [/dump] [device|image.dd|image.e01]" <-- image.dd is an image file
[23:53] <erxr3> bprompt, yes, i will now try to recover the partition that I've been talking about..
[23:53] <bprompt> erxr3:    how big is the SOURCE and how big is the TARGET?
[23:53] <erxr3> TJ- the image of partition that I created ends with .img..but I guess image.dd is the correct one to type?
[23:54] <bprompt> erxr3:     bear in mind that, ddrescue, will behave like "dd" :), with a few more fixes, but the "target" has to be the same size or equal as the "source"
[23:54] <erxr3> bprompt, the source is 3,5gb, the target is close to 150gb
[23:55] <ST-84> erxr3, run the file command to check what type of file it is.
[23:55] <erxr3> bprompt, that means the target would be erased?
[23:55] <bprompt> erxr3:     nope, it's just a "raw" copy
[23:56] <bprompt> hmm wait.. misread
[23:56] <bprompt> erxr3:   yes, it'll be overwritten, at least 3.5gbs in this case
[23:56] <erxr3> bprompt, but I am not using ddrescue, I have already created the disk image with the same size, 3,5 gb. I will now apply testdisk
[23:56] <bprompt> k
[23:56] <TJ-> erxr3: the command-line definition just means it can take a block device name OR a filename that contains a raw disk image
[23:57] <bprompt> erxr3:    I've used both before, testdisk wa no dice, at least on that scenario, ddrescue worked perfect  ->   ddrescue -f -d  SOURCE TARGET
[23:59] <erxr3> bprompt, so ddrescue recovers data as well?