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dholbachgood morning07:21
dholbachsalut davidcalle09:12
davidcallesalut dholbach!09:35
davidcalleHow was the weekend?09:36
dholbachgood good, fairly quiet and relaxed- how was yours?09:36
davidcalledholbach, same, maybe not as quiet since kids are a bit sick, but we had a great time :)09:43
* dholbach hugs davidcalle09:44
dholbachdavidcalle, regarding https://trello.com/c/cgTY06e2/81-fix-markdown-importer what do you suggest we do? :)09:44
davidcalledholbach, so, today, we are testing newer django?09:44
davidcalleI suggest ^09:44
dholbachdavidcalle, so you'd say we drop the efforts on getting the mptt approach to work?09:45
davidcalledholbach, if we end up moving off mptt and upstream advice isn't helping, I think we should start dropping it. If you want to give it another try, I'm ready to be helpful though ;)09:47
dholbachno, I think it makes sense09:47
dholbachdavidcalle, I'll add a check list to the bug report09:48
dholbachjust so we can keep it up to date with our testing09:48
davidcalledholbach, ok, do you expect a lot of breakage?09:48
dholbachbasically the entire stack changed underneath the app :)09:48
dholbachI did the update, fixed the bits which exploded in my face and that's all the testing I did up until now09:49
dholbachso there still might be some09:49
dholbachdavidcalle, I updated https://bugs.launchpad.net/developer-ubuntu-com/+bug/147071509:51
ubot2Launchpad bug 1470715 in developer-ubuntu-com "Do Django upgrade" [High,In progress]09:51
davidcalledholbach, zinnia has been planning to move to treebeard since 2012 -> they have probably done it : looking into which version we need09:52
dholbachit's not a long check list - it's basically just based on stuff I had to change and stuff we're expecting to be fixed09:52
czajkowskihow are we all this lovely foggy Monday09:52
davidcalleHey czajkowski :)09:53
davidcallepretty good, you?09:53
dholbachaniel@daydream:~/dev/sites/developer-ubuntu-com.1470715/env/lib/python2.7/site-packages$ grep -ri treebeard zinnia*09:53
dholbachso it looks like zinnia is still pulling in its own mptt09:54
davidcalledholbach, if it still requires it, maybe we can have treebeard for the cms and keep mptt for zinnia?09:55
dholbachdavidcalle, yes, but I wouldn't specify mptt in the requirements.txt - zinnia will pull it in on its own09:56
davidcalledholbach, ok09:56
dholbachso it's not something our app depends on09:56
dholbachdavidcalle, once you've done the migration locally, you'll notice a couple of deprecation warnings wrt future django 1.9 - maybe we should create a separate bug report for that, so we're safe for a future upgrade10:00
davidcalledholbach, +110:00
* dholbach needs to run to the dentist - see you later10:03
davidcalledholbach, have fun*10:04
czajkowskidavidcalle: not bad thanks had some time off last week10:09
davidcalleczajkowski, that's nice, I had some as well, did anything special? In France we had a pretty sunny week and went to the south for a few days10:12
czajkowskimy goddaugher came over from lille and we did the london eye, Wicked musical and lots more over the few days10:13
davidcalleczajkowski, nice :)10:15
czajkowskiyes she's over studying there this semester10:18
davidcalleczajkowski, staying at your place?10:29
czajkowskidavidcalle: yes in Godalming10:35
czajkowskifor the visti10:35
czajkowskibut not when she studies in Lille, she's staying there till till december has been there since september10:35
czajkowskithen off to luxemburg for internship10:35
davidcalleczajkowski, hah, I thought she was french and that "over" was england. /me needs more coffee10:36
czajkowskiahh no she's Irish10:51
dholbachdavidcalle, can you "wget github.com" from staging/prod and see if that does anything? :)11:46
davidcalledholbach, git clone git://github.com/ubuntu-core/snappy times out11:55
davidcalleWell, not the staging server itself, but the juju machine we need this to run on11:56
dholbachdavidcalle, hum... can you follow up on #85928 please? maybe I didn't phrase my question explicitly enough :)11:57
davidcalledholbach, yep11:57
dholbachthanks a lot11:57
davidcalledholbach, I haven't been able to get rid of mptt for the upgrade, following your list of commands on the mp, uninstalling mptt breaks a lot of migrations (eg. admin), keeping it makes things work. I've fixed some importer bits (eg. import commands from the admin were broken due to a new way of dealing with command args), and changed fix-mptt to fix-cms, things still working fine with mysql, haven't tried with postgre yet12:07
dholbachdavidcalle, do you have a diff of the changes you had to do locally?12:09
dholbachdavidcalle, did you start from trunk with all migrations applied?12:09
dholbachdavidcalle, for the MP I used a branch we can all write to, so I'd suggest we consider this as something we all work on and just write to if necessary12:09
davidcalledholbach, I've made a fresh trunk, make dev, added the dbdump suggested in the README, make run, the merged your branch and ran all the upgrade commands12:11
davidcalledholbach, ok, I'll push the changes needed for the importer first12:11
davidcalledholbach, we should probably merge trunk on it as well, right?12:11
dholbachsure, if there's any more changes, sure12:12
dholbachdavidcalle, I've never used 'make dev' and 'make run'12:13
davidcalledholbach, they are just shortcuts to what we were used to12:14
davidcalledholbach, with a few juju related fixes12:14
dholbachok cool12:15
dholbachit looks like "syncdb" → "migrate", so with the commands you ran, you should be all set12:18
davidcalledholbach, oh ok12:21
davidcalledholbach, pushed12:21
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balloons_Morning everyone12:49
dholbachhey balloons_12:51
dholbachhow are you? how are things?12:51
balloons_A bit tired. Excited for uos this week12:53
balloons_Should be a fun week!12:53
davidcalleHey balloons_ :)12:54
* dholbach hugs balloons_12:56
balloons_I see all the nice uos summaries. I need to figure out my own attendance schedule13:02
dholbachballoons_, speaking of summaries - have you set up the google doc for the session summaries?13:04
dholbachdavidcalle, I just pushed some more changes to the branch13:04
dholbachdavidcalle, I learnt that "pip list -o" can show me outdated modules :)13:04
dholbachdavidcalle, I'll do some testing in a postgres setting now13:05
davidcalledholbach, yes please, I haven't looked at postgre with treebeard yet... I'm anxious to hear your findings13:07
balloons_dholbach, I have not. I guess I may as well as get folks to start doing it on day 113:15
dholbachdavidcalle, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/13082127/13:16
dholbachdavidcalle, I had just created home and snappy/{guides/snapcraft} as empty placeholder pages - I think that was enough in the past - I'll take a look and see why it failed13:16
dholbachballoons_, thanks a lot - I added the folks who need access to the trello card13:16
dholbachdavidcalle, from a first glance it doesn't look good - I'll take a closer look13:17
davidcalledholbach, eek13:18
davidcalledholbach, yes, what you need should have been enough13:21
davidcalleyou did*13:21
davidcalledholbach, see last rt reply, I'll change the parser to check for github https urls instead of "git://", work for you?13:35
joseballoons: got it, thanks!13:40
joseballoons_: mind a quick pm?13:40
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balloonsjose, go for it13:41
dholbachdavidcalle, yep13:48
davidcalledholbach, I've tested, using git clone https://github.com works13:48
dholbachgreat, thanks14:00
* dholbach hugs davidcalle14:00
dholbachdavidcalle, so apart from the importer everything works for you after the upgrade?14:16
dholbachand not commiting everything in one transaction was what you intended to do?14:17
dholbach+#    @transaction.commit_on_success()14:17
davidcalledholbach, it triggered an error (commit_on_success doesn't seem to exist anymore), I commented it, forgot to tell you about it14:22
dholbachoh ok14:22
dholbachI'll find out how it's done now14:23
davidcalledholbach, I haven't tried the rest extensively yet (I'm progressing on snappy IA changes)14:27
dholbachdavidcalle, maybe mhall119, you and I can have a call about this some time soon where we try this all out together?14:28
mhall119dholbach: after OUS?14:29
dholbachyeah, everything else would be a bit optimistic14:30
davidcallemhall119, hola, do you think we can deploy staging -> prod today?14:31
mhall119davidcalle: is everything working on staging now?14:53
davidcallemhall119, mhall119 what was broken is still broken, but we should land analytics. Last deployment was done with the spec as broken as it is today, afair, or am I mistaken?14:56
mhall119davidcalle: if you mean the importer, yes14:58
mhall119davidcalle: are there any additional steps other than juju set build_label= needed for this update?14:58
davidcallemhall119, nope, but my questions is: do we need all the mojo spec changes on wendigo to be brought back to trunk for a prod deployment to succeed?14:59
davidcallemhall119, oh, I see the point of what you just said14:59
davidcallemhall119, you can run set build_label on prod without having to redeploy the rest, right?15:00
Picimhall119: do we need any other uos channels this cycle besides #ubuntu-uos-community, #ubuntu-uos-appdev, #ubuntu-uos-showandtell, #ubuntu-uos-convergence, #ubuntu-uos-cloud, #ubuntu-uos-overflow ?15:08
PiciThose are the 'rooms' listed on the summit site, and what channels they seem to be pointed at15:09
dholbachPici, #ubuntu-uos-core15:09
dholbachare we going to have #ubuntu-uos in general?15:10
dholbachand how about -plenary?15:10
Picigot that15:10
dholbachok cool15:10
dholbachthat's all I can think of15:10
Picithe bots are good, just making sure that everything else is too15:13
mhall119thanks Pici15:17
mhall119popey: can you run your magic app type checking script and update the spreadsheet?15:30
josedholbach: hey, can we make sure the bot logs the right channels? last time it logged #uds-* instead of #uos-*15:31
popeymhall119, will do, will take a while to run, will update the sheet a bit later, am afk right now on way back from conf15:32
dholbachjose, I guess that's a question for Pici?15:32
josePici: ^ :D15:32
Picijose: I'm just about to file an RT ticket about it, I might need someone to kick it once I do that though15:32
josePici: I can make that happen. just let me know the RT# :D15:33
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mhall119davidcalle: right, we can use juju set in prod still, but we should get any spec changes back into our spec branch on LP15:35
mhall119out of curiosity, what spec changes are on wendigo but not in the LP branch currencly?15:36
davidcallemhall119, https://pastebin.canonical.com/143213/15:39
mhall119davidcalle: oh, I thought I had updated the LP branch with all that15:49
mhall119what remote branch are you comparing it to?15:50
davidcallemojo-ue-devportal on wendigo VS https://code.launchpad.net/~canonical-is/canonical-mojo-specs/mojo-ue-devportal15:50
mhall119oh, right, I couldn't push directly to that, so I made my own15:52
davidcallemhall119, haaa ok15:52
mhall119https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/canonical-mojo-specs/devportal-fixes should have all that, but double check to make sure15:52
mhall119I need to propose it for merging15:52
davidcallemhall119, only difference is the revno (143, we are on 144), looks good to me!15:57
dholbachballoons, davidcalle, mhall119, popey: shall we repurpose our planning call in 30m for talking about the last bits to do for UOS?15:57
davidcalledholbach, good idea15:58
mhall119thanks davidcalle15:59
mhall119and you want the latest rev of hte production branch deployed to prod?15:59
mhall119dholbach: +115:59
mhall119davidcalle: r144?16:00
davidcallemhall119, yes16:00
popeydholbach, i wont be able to make it, travelling16:02
popeydholbach, but if there are things i can do this evening, let me know16:03
davidcalledholbach, https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/developer-ubuntu-com/no-git-protocol/+merge/27641116:03
davidcalledholbach, mhall119, have we ever talked about the possibility of switching prod to mysql? Is there any reason to use postgre over it?16:08
davidcalle(we have probably talked about it, but my memory fails me)16:08
mhall119davidcalle: postgres is the prefered database within Canonical16:09
balloonsdavidcalle, shall I go ahead and put your name down to present the show and tell track summaries?16:09
davidcalleballoons, I don't mind doing it, sure16:12
davidcallemhall119, ok16:14
dholbachdavidcalle, I added a couple of lose thoughts on the LP: https://code.launchpad.net/~davidc3/developer-ubuntu-com/no-git-protocol/+merge/27641116:21
davidcalledholbach, can't see them16:23
davidcalleWe should listen more to popey's ideas (online app builder where you can add blocks for rss feeds, images, flickr feed, etc) http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/11/02/microsoft-lets-you-build-apps-for-windows-10-in-less-than-10-minutes/16:27
dholbachdavidcalle, inline16:28
davidcalledholbach, still can't see them, have you saved the comments from the box for regular comments?16:29
dholbachdavidcalle, sorry16:31
dholbachdone now16:31
dholbachballoons, coming?16:31
balloonssi si16:32
balloonspositive thoughts to all16:46
balloonsbig hugs!16:46
mhall119davidcalle: prod update has been done, can you confirm the new stuff is there?16:47
davidcallemhall119, it is :)16:47
davidcallemhall119, thanks for pinging them. I'm glad staging is sorted out, do you need any help with the mojo spec mp?16:48
mhall119davidcalle: no, I'll file an MP and poke webops about it16:48
davidcalledholbach, mp updated16:48
mhall119davidcalle: can you check with alex about the state and location of the js scopes api docs?16:48
davidcallemhall119, yep16:48
mhall119thanks, and will you also let thibaut know that the new analytics are live?16:50
dholbachPici, the topic in #ubuntu-uos has a non-working URL16:50
davidcallemhall119, done :)16:50
dholbach(and I can't talk in there)16:50
Picithat is odd16:51
* Pici looks16:51
davidcallemhall119, I've asked for access to the analytics accounts, it will be useful for non-snappy things as well16:51
mhall119yes, please share with the rest of us when you get them16:52
dholbachmhall119, can you check if I forgot anything on my track leads mail?16:52
davidcallemhall119, to sum up, with the spec fixed, all we need to do now is just do(staging)/request(prod) an update of the build label? No more tarball building at all16:53
mhall119davidcalle: correct, though there is still spec work to do so that we can use "make upgrade" rather than calling juju set16:54
mhall119dholbach: email looks good to me16:55
dholbachthanks - I wasn't sure if i hadn't forgotten anything :)16:57
Picidholbach: logbots just flushed their outputs, so the topic links work now17:07
dholbachcool thanks, Pici17:08
dholbachall right my friends - have a great rest of your day - see you tomorrow!17:10
* davidcalle drives home o/17:14
davidcalleHave a nice eod all :)17:15
josemhall119: ping17:19
mhall119jose: pong17:27
mhall119and while you're here, can you send me a topic and summary of the talk you're going to give at UbuCon/FOSSETCON?17:28
josehehe, sure!17:28
mhall119and will you be there on the morning of the 19th to give it?17:28
josejust wondering, will uos.ubuntu.com/uds.ubuntu.com redirect to summit.u.c at some point?17:28
josemhall119: I will. arriving on the 18th around noon17:28
mhall119jose: yes, we're waiting on a +1 from the web-team before throwing that switch17:29
mhall119jose: awesome, thanks!17:29
josewoot woot!17:33
joseoh. also, what channels do you guys want to use for plenaries? ubuntu-uos-plenary, or ubuntu-on-air?17:37
josegotcha. will update the site accordingly17:42
mhall119thanks jose17:47
jcastrohah man19:44
jcastrocheck out this picture of the back of daniel's head: http://www.alphr.com/business/1001892/inside-canonical-the-creators-of-ubuntu-have-big-plans-for-the-future19:44
popeymhall119, did I see you talking to Pici about irc channels earlier. Is that all setup now?19:53
mhall119popey: yes and yes19:55
popey:) super19:59
popeySo many people came by the Ubuntu stand at OggCamp to play with the nexus 4 and a screen19:59
popeyquite a few who had not quite understood we were this close to it landing were amazed at how well it worked20:00
popeygiven it landed on tuesday20:00
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