[01:14] What was that about? Someone banned me from Ubuntu. [01:18] bazhang: ^ ? [01:18] andystar, yes hello [01:18] thanks Pici [01:22] bazhang, I didn't appreciate you and daftykins seeming to gang up on me about talking about ubottu or not talking about ubottu, when that is a regular tool to use in the ubuntu channel. [01:22] bazhang, The use of all caps seemed to escalate the issue to an unnecessary level, too. [01:23] andystar, its not a debate for #ubuntu [01:23] bazhang, Who said there was a debate? [01:24] "We value discussion, data and decisiveness" [01:26] So, can I still ask my question in ubuntu? [01:29] Will I just be temporarily banned from ubuntu? [01:30] it depends on you, mostly [01:50] Can I still ask my question about Ubuntu? [01:50] andystar, did you see what was said above or no [01:51] I logged out after hggdh's remark. It didn't make any sense. [01:52] whats your question about ubuntu andystar [01:54] andystar, you need to respond in a timely fashion [01:54] I have been trying to make kxstudio work with xubuntu for several weeks. I am afraid that when I reinstall, I will lose some of my work. [01:56] I am sorry I type so slowly. I don't know what to say, sometimes. [01:56] andystar, are you going to remain ontopic, no more debates about bot usage in #ubuntu as its strictly a support channel [01:58] bazhang, I need to take a break for a while. I am a bit upset about what happened earlier. [02:00] ok andystar , the ban stands, come back when you can discuss in a more suitable frame of mind [02:09] bazhang, I don't think there should be much to discuss. [02:10] andystar, I asked above about you agreeing or not on the debating bot usage in #ubuntu [02:13] bezhang, I respect daftykins a lot about his computer knowledge. I didn't realize I was debating him. I just wanted to reply to what he was saying. [02:19] bazhang, Does the way I am chatting with you now seem respectful? [02:20] andystar: yes, it is respectful. Pretty much like we replying to you. What we cannot undesrstand is you refusing to answer a direct question. [02:21] which, frankly, makes me consider that you should have a time to cool off [02:22] I think I have answered it, by the lack of yes or no. [02:23] I cannot promise that everything will always be perfectly on topic, even when I intend it to be so. [02:24] andystar: as you wish. I vote for the ban staying for a while. [02:26] andystar: now, since we seem to be done here, please /part [02:27] I thought the discussion with daftykins was over, when bazhang stepped in. I was just offended at the all caps. [02:35] hi andystar since the other ops are partially afk i will jump in to spped this a bit up. [02:35] Thanks. [02:35] I just want to be heard. [02:36] I don't want to bother anybody. [02:36] andystar: after debating with daftykins about 20mins in #ubuntu about ubottu and the usage in the channel the op asked you to stop that: "andystar, take the chat to the offtopic room NOT here" [02:37] that was a reasonable and was not meant as offence. [02:39] I didn't see how much time had passed. Now I am seeing that a lot more time is passing. [02:40] than in here you were asked if you can act according to the guidelines in future in #ubuntu, which you did not answer that you are able to. so right now the ban will stand. please come back the next days when you had a re-read of the guidelines and thought about you can accept that as the behaviour we would like to have in #ubuntu [02:40] I just want to feel welcome if I am going to be involved with the ubuntu community. [02:40] I can act with the guidelines of the ubuntu channel. [02:40] I just didn't know what they were. [02:40] if you need support in the meantime you could try askubuntu, ubuntuforums, mailinglists or the discourse thingy :) [02:41] !guidelines | andystar [02:41] andystar: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [02:43] @mark andystar told to come back the next days to resolve the ban [02:43] The operation succeeded. [03:56] !log [03:56] Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. [03:56] Hi. [03:57] Was there anything else said after I logged out? [04:42] I would like to fix my installation of Ubuntu, rather than reinstalling. [04:43] I tried deleting one of the folders of the .config directory, and purging cadence and reinstalling, but the sound still does not work. [04:50] hggdh, Is there anyone still online? [05:01] hggdh, I have read the guidelines. It appears that I did not break any rules. [05:10] It appears that bazhang broke the code of conduct, by using all caps in the irc. I don't think it was appropriate for him to ban me, shortly after that. [05:15] !op [05:15] Thanks for letting us know you are here, someone will be along presently [05:15] andystar called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () [06:42] andystar: I suggest you find a friend that you trust to read http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23ubuntu-ops.html and help you understand what you should do. [06:45] CarlFK, About what? [06:48] andystar: please /part this channel. [06:48] I am waiting for my response. [06:53] CarlFK, I am not sure how asking for a friend to read through the logs helps me to be unbanned. [06:56] CarlFK: what a lovely suggestion to andystar [06:57] valorie: thanks. [10:21] Hello? [10:22] Can I get back into Ubuntu? [10:24] Why can't I get into Ubuntu? [18:06] Can I be unbanned yet? [18:07] andystar: let me take a look, one moment [18:10] andystar: what was writtten in all caps? [18:10] hggdh, It was just one word. [18:11] hggdh, It was the word "not." [18:13] andystar: okay, we're going to remove the ban. just a moment [18:14] andystar: you should be able to join #ubuntu now, please keep our guidelines in mind and have a good afternoon. [18:18] darn! Something went south on my weechat config [18:19] hggdh: I removed the ban before you did [18:19] ah [18:21] Thanks. [18:22] As I said before, I just want to feel welcome, so if I have questions about Linux or Ubuntu, I can have someone to talk about Linux with. [18:36] andystar: now, please /part. This is no-idling channel. [18:37] I hope I can talk about the issue later, here if possible. [18:37] I still feel a little bit traumatized by what happened. [18:37] I have never been banned before, not for anything. [18:38] Thanks anyways. === evilnhandler is now known as nhandler [21:51] Unit193: mind taking a look at #ubuntu at this time, when you get a second [21:52] its the GeyikTR. com spam crew again [21:53] Unit193: particularly the " unknown pattern, or pattern already active" part [21:53] the bot is handling it quite well [21:53] yeah, it just shouldn't have announced an error like that in channel [21:53] otherwise, its doing great [21:54] Ah yeah, that's something else. [21:54] ah, didnt scroll that much in the backlog [21:54] Also netsplits. [21:55] https://imgflip.com/i/tiu6h [21:55] ;p [22:06] Pici: Actually, that shouldn't be happening. Hrm.