[01:14] <andystar> What was that about? Someone banned me from Ubuntu.
[01:18] <Pici> bazhang: ^ ?
[01:18] <bazhang> andystar, yes hello
[01:18] <bazhang> thanks Pici
[01:22] <andystar> bazhang, I didn't appreciate you and daftykins seeming to gang up on me about talking about ubottu or not talking about ubottu, when that is a regular tool to use in the ubuntu channel.
[01:22] <andystar> bazhang, The use of all caps seemed to escalate the issue to an unnecessary level, too.
[01:23] <bazhang> andystar, its not a debate for #ubuntu
[01:23] <andystar> bazhang, Who said there was a debate?
[01:24] <andystar> "We value discussion, data and decisiveness"
[01:26] <andystar> So, can I still ask my question in ubuntu?
[01:29] <andystar> Will I just be temporarily banned from ubuntu?
[01:30] <hggdh> it depends on you, mostly
[01:50] <andystar> Can I still ask my question about Ubuntu?
[01:50] <bazhang> andystar, did you see what was said above or no
[01:51] <andystar> I logged out after hggdh's remark.  It didn't make any sense.
[01:52] <bazhang> whats your question about ubuntu andystar
[01:54] <bazhang> andystar, you need to respond in a timely fashion
[01:54] <andystar> I have been trying to make kxstudio work with xubuntu for several weeks.  I am afraid that when I reinstall, I will lose some of my work.
[01:56] <andystar> I am sorry I type so slowly.  I don't know what to say, sometimes.
[01:56] <bazhang> andystar, are you going to remain ontopic, no more debates about bot usage in #ubuntu as its strictly a support channel
[01:58] <andystar> bazhang, I need to take a break for a while.  I am a bit upset about what happened earlier.
[02:00] <bazhang> ok andystar , the ban stands, come back when you can discuss in a more suitable frame of mind
[02:09] <andystar> bazhang, I don't think there should be much to discuss.
[02:10] <bazhang> andystar, I asked above about you agreeing or not on the debating bot usage in #ubuntu
[02:13] <andystar> bezhang, I respect daftykins a lot about his computer knowledge.  I didn't realize I was debating him.  I just wanted to reply to what he was saying.
[02:19] <andystar> bazhang, Does the way I am chatting with you now seem respectful?
[02:20] <hggdh> andystar: yes, it is respectful. Pretty much like we replying to you. What we cannot undesrstand is you refusing to answer a direct question.
[02:21] <hggdh> which, frankly, makes me consider that you should have a time to cool off
[02:22] <andystar> I think I have answered it, by the lack of yes or no.
[02:23] <andystar> I cannot promise that everything will always be perfectly on topic, even when I intend it to be so.
[02:24] <hggdh> andystar: as you wish. I vote for the ban staying for a while.
[02:26] <hggdh> andystar: now, since we seem to be done here, please /part
[02:27] <andystar> I thought the discussion with daftykins was over, when bazhang stepped in.   I was just offended at the all caps.
[02:35] <k1l> hi andystar since the other ops are partially afk i will jump in to spped this a bit up.
[02:35] <andystar> Thanks.
[02:35] <andystar> I just want to be heard.
[02:36] <andystar> I don't want to bother anybody.
[02:36] <k1l> andystar: after debating with daftykins about 20mins in #ubuntu about ubottu and the usage in the channel the op asked you to stop that: "andystar, take the chat to the offtopic room NOT here"
[02:37] <k1l> that was a reasonable and was not meant as offence.
[02:39] <andystar> I didn't see how much time had passed.  Now I am seeing that a lot more time is passing.
[02:40] <k1l> than in here you were asked if you can act according to the guidelines in future in #ubuntu, which you did not answer that you are able to. so right now the ban will stand. please come back the next days when you had a re-read of the guidelines and thought about you can accept that as the behaviour we would like to have in #ubuntu
[02:40] <andystar> I just want to feel welcome if I am going to be involved with the ubuntu community.
[02:40] <andystar> I can act with the guidelines of the ubuntu channel.
[02:40] <andystar> I just didn't know what they were.
[02:40] <k1l> if you need support in the meantime you could try askubuntu, ubuntuforums, mailinglists or the discourse thingy :)
[02:41] <k1l> !guidelines | andystar
[02:43] <k1l> @mark andystar told to come back the next days to resolve the ban
[03:56] <andystar> !log
[03:56] <andystar> Hi.
[03:57] <andystar> Was there anything else said after I logged out?
[04:42] <andystar> I would like to fix my installation of Ubuntu, rather than reinstalling.
[04:43] <andystar> I tried deleting one of the folders of the .config directory, and purging cadence and reinstalling, but the sound still does not work.
[04:50] <andystar> hggdh, Is there anyone still online?
[05:01] <andystar> hggdh, I have read the guidelines.  It appears that I did not break any rules.
[05:10] <andystar> It appears that bazhang broke the code of conduct, by using all caps in the irc.  I don't think it was appropriate for him to ban me, shortly after that.
[05:15] <andystar> !op
[06:42] <CarlFK> andystar: I suggest you find a friend that you trust to read   http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2015/11/02/%23ubuntu-ops.html and help you understand what you should do.
[06:45] <andystar> CarlFK, About what?
[06:48] <CarlFK> andystar: please /part this channel.
[06:48] <andystar> I am waiting for my response.
[06:53] <andystar> CarlFK, I am not sure how asking for a friend to read through the logs helps me to be unbanned.
[06:56] <valorie> CarlFK: what a lovely suggestion to andystar
[06:57] <CarlFK> valorie:  thanks.
[10:21] <andystar> Hello?
[10:22] <andystar> Can I get back into Ubuntu?
[10:24] <andystar> Why can't I get into Ubuntu?
[18:06] <andystar> Can I be unbanned yet?
[18:07] <Pici> andystar: let me take a look, one moment
[18:10] <hggdh> andystar: what was writtten in all caps?
[18:10] <andystar> hggdh, It was just one word.
[18:11] <andystar> hggdh, It was the word "not."
[18:13] <Pici> andystar: okay, we're going to remove the ban. just a moment
[18:14] <Pici> andystar: you should be able to join #ubuntu now, please keep our guidelines in mind and have a good afternoon.
[18:18] <hggdh> darn! Something went south on my weechat config
[18:19] <Pici> hggdh: I removed the ban before you did
[18:19] <hggdh> ah
[18:21] <andystar> Thanks.
[18:22] <andystar> As I said before, I just want to feel welcome, so if I have questions about Linux or Ubuntu, I can have someone to talk about Linux with.
[18:36] <hggdh> andystar: now, please /part. This is no-idling channel.
[18:37] <andystar> I hope I can talk about the issue later, here if possible.
[18:37] <andystar> I still feel a little bit traumatized by what happened.
[18:37] <andystar> I have never been banned before, not for anything.
[18:38] <andystar> Thanks anyways.
[21:51] <Pici> Unit193: mind taking a look at  #ubuntu at this time, when you get a second
[21:52] <k1l> its the GeyikTR. com spam crew again
[21:53] <Pici> Unit193: particularly the " unknown pattern, or pattern already active" part
[21:53] <k1l> the bot is handling it quite well
[21:53] <Pici> yeah, it just shouldn't have announced an error like that in channel
[21:53] <Pici> otherwise, its doing great
[21:54] <Unit193> Ah yeah, that's something else.
[21:54] <k1l> ah, didnt scroll that much in the backlog
[21:54] <Unit193> Also netsplits.
[21:55] <k1l> https://imgflip.com/i/tiu6h
[21:55] <k1l> ;p
[22:06] <Unit193> Pici: Actually, that shouldn't be happening.  Hrm.