[00:02] <daftykins> isn't that basically chrome-by-another-name now?
[00:04] <diddledan_> true
[00:04] <diddledan_> it's moved with chrome to the blink thingy instead of apple's webkit
[06:06] <Guest29504> morning all
[06:06] <MooDoo> morning even
[06:11] <mapps> morning
[06:15] <MooDoo> how are you mapps?
[06:16] <mapps> all good, andd you?
[06:16] <mapps> just watching homeland;D
[06:16] <MooDoo> think I've watched a couple of episodes of that
[06:17] <mapps> i was surprised by this series..theyre using real current stories ISIS..overthrong assad etc
[06:17] <mapps> surely this gives ISIS more attention
[06:19] <MooDoo> yeah probably
[06:20] <mapps> having no net for a while sucked
[06:20] <mapps> behind on films and tv:)
[06:25] <MooDoo> I must admit I was on hols last week, so I've binge watched programs I missed
[06:26] <mapps> ;D
[06:26] <mapps> i have tv now yay uk chans..sky ..beIN sports :D
[06:29] <MooDoo> :)
[06:31] <mapps> all uses my net..so when my net died..it died;[
[06:31] <mapps> and wow yesterday big storm so freaking windy scaffolding outside work blew down lol
[06:35] <MooDoo> It's a bit foggy here at the moment.
[06:36] <mapps> heavy rain tonight 8pm onwards
[06:36] <mapps> weird how its so windy and bad rain..then nada
[09:13] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:14] <mapps> morning
[09:16] <davmor2> so this is the tune stuck in my head this morning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsdy_rct6uo fantastic tune :)
[09:28] <MooDoo> khowdy davmor2
[09:30] <davmor2> MooDoo: caravan is bedded down for the next 5 months :'(
[09:42] <MooDoo> davmor2: where's the van?
[09:42] <davmor2> MooDoo: storage
[09:43] <MooDoo> ah i get you, next time it's out, and you go away, invite us to come see you :)
[09:48] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Monday, and happy Deviled Egg Day! 😃
[10:09] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:28] <davmor2> JamesTait: see if this plays for you http://www.popscreen.com/v/6CTEK/Deviled-Eggs
[10:29]  * zmoylan-pi settles on coffee and toast instead of boiled eggs or porridge for brekkie
[10:31] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP-TU0P2Lw4 that one works
[10:32] <davmor2> JamesTait: about a minute in
[10:32] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[10:34] <JamesTait> davmor2, yeah, the first one didn't work, but the second one did. ☺
[10:34] <JamesTait> davmor2, about 0:54
[10:34] <davmor2> :)
[10:38] <ali1234> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htxZZKv4pMw
[11:49] <foobarry> wonder if we can crowdsource a campaign to ask tesco to hand over teh bootloader keys for hudl2
[11:49] <foobarry> now they've ditched it
[11:50] <zmoylan-pi> good luck
[11:56] <foobarry> i think their android guy has left too
[11:58] <Myrtti> browsed through Amazon's Deals of the Day section, and they've changed the layout of it. Accidentally added 30 Blurays on a wishlist.
[11:58] <Myrtti> from their 2 for £10 deal bin
[11:59] <zmoylan-pi> i never saw a single hudl here in ireland.  i was keen to get one for a while
[11:59] <foobarry> still the best tablet for the price
[11:59] <foobarry> although i heard they were stopping them because of screen cracking issues
[12:00] <foobarry> my guess is that they are ditching blinkbox etc and realising they are not amazon
[12:00] <diplo> foobarry: funnily enough I was reading up on that too, yeah lead engineer has gone and 2 of his underlings I believe, no hudl3 is going to come so I'd say we're not going to get anything
[12:00] <foobarry> a real shame as i'd saved vouchers to buy another
[12:00] <diplo> They are, decided in August so I read, and their home broadband
[12:00] <foobarry> they have no reason *not* to release the keys
[12:00] <zmoylan-pi> what's in it for them?
[12:00] <diplo> They don't have the engineers to do it now ?
[12:01] <foobarry> they have some reason to release them as lots of users up the creek without support
[12:01] <foobarry> and 5.1 on the hudl2 just landed and experiencing a few problemw
[12:01] <zmoylan-pi> that's not their problem now that they've abandoned them
[12:01] <foobarry> they are still obliged to support those who just bought it
[12:02] <zmoylan-pi> they can replace their defective units with another defective unit till the user gives up or fights for a refund
[12:02] <foobarry> or give back to the users . many other tablets unklock bootloaders
[12:02] <foobarry> now there is no incentive for tesco to lock it, they should
[12:02] <zmoylan-pi> i just don't see tesco been that nice
[12:02] <foobarry> i would even pay to unlock
[12:03] <foobarry> i would also pay to unlock kindle fire
[12:03] <foobarry> i wonder who the android devs were
[12:04] <foobarry> maybe linkedin knows
[12:04] <foobarry> that was quick
[12:04] <foobarry> LinkedIn Member
[12:04] <foobarry> Android Engineer (about to start something new)
[12:05] <foobarry> Past
[12:05] <foobarry> Lead Android Developer at Tesco (hudl)
[12:22] <zmoylan-pi> will code for coupons... :-P
[12:59] <foobarry> if you get a speeding ticket, you pay twice. my insurance has gone up loads
[13:02] <awilkins> After ex-wife got one, she found it cheaper to have me on her policy as a second driver than without
[13:08] <foobarry> some insurers don't touch you
[13:08] <foobarry> :'(
[13:08] <foobarry> should have contested it
[13:09] <foobarry> a new meerkat might soothe the pain
[13:20] <Myrtti> yay meerkats
[13:23] <zmoylan-pi> or relax on a nice moomin cushion... http://imgur.com/sZulXCj
[13:33] <foobarry> one of our meerkats has to stay in the box
[13:33] <foobarry> the dog hates it
[13:33] <foobarry> something about the eyes
[13:33] <foobarry> she thinks its a squirrel or meerkat or something
[13:34] <zmoylan-pi>  is there a way to transfer the smell of the dog on to the meerkat to help it accept it?
[13:40] <foobarry> i don't think shes a dummy
[13:40] <foobarry> she's bred for ratting
[13:40] <foobarry> although hasn't caught our mouse yet
[13:42] <diddledan_> that's because mouse != rat :-p
[13:43] <zmoylan-pi> a dog/cat brought up seperate from other dogs/cats may not learn how to hunt
[13:45] <zmoylan-pi> somewhere in all that picking kitten up by scruff of the neck mother cats impart the information on proper way to bring down a rottweiler :-P
[13:47] <foobarry> my dog loves to chase squirerls and rabbits
[13:47] <foobarry> and has despatched some
[14:54] <diddledan_> hmm, http://techrights.org/2015/10/30/xamarin-vs-robovm-freedom/
[14:55] <zmoylan-pi> ms is your friend...
[15:09] <bashrc> ...or not as the case may be
[15:10] <zmoylan-pi> no no, their pr is all about how they love open source
[15:21] <diddledan_> zmoylan-pi: therefore we love MS :-p
[15:22] <zmoylan-pi> over THEIR dead body :-P
[15:41]  * diddledan_ splits some nets
[15:42]  * zmoylan-pi nets somes spills
[16:40] <ujjain-> what are those like candles called that smell?
[16:40] <ujjain-> not candles
[16:43] <ujjain-> ah incense
[16:43] <diddledan_> foggy outside
[16:43] <diddledan_> glad I don't have to walk home today
[16:44] <ali1234> i wish websites like facebook and linked-in had a thing that would tell me why they think i know a person they are suggesting
[16:46] <diddledan_> I think oftentimes they just link you to people who are connected to people you're connected to - two degrees of separation
[16:46] <diddledan_> and of course linkedin loves harvesting addressbooks
[16:47] <diddledan_> that one person you replied to once on a mailing list. yeah linkedin thinks you want to be their business partner
[16:47] <ali1234> i see people and the name is kind of familiar but i don't know why
[16:48] <diddledan_> I wonder if you know me? :-p
[16:48] <diddledan_> linkedin probably could find a way of linking us
[16:49] <diddledan_> I heard nasa are going to release news of a major discovery on mars - they found an object floating in the water... rumours are it's a linkedin email
[16:50] <diddledan_> (that's a joke, btw - there is no announcement that I'm aware of)
[16:50] <ali1234> i see a bunch of people from here on there
[16:51] <ali1234> no dans though
[16:52] <diddledan_> yeah we're probably all on various mailing lists so you might have got email addresses from there into your addressbook which then got harvested
[16:53] <diddledan_> I wonder if the twitter link-up on linkedin has any effect on recommendations, too
[16:53] <ali1234> i'm not ever sure what that means :)
[16:53] <ali1234> i don't use the twitters either
[16:54] <diddledan_> I'm a twitter consumer, not a producer
[16:54] <ali1234> i think some of the people it's showing me are people who i just looked at their profile once
[16:54] <diddledan_> I just watch the feed occasionally
[17:30] <Laney> "this person looked at your profile so now we are suggesting them to you"
[17:48] <awilkins> Encryption : Tories don't know how it works :http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/11970391/Internet-firms-to-be-banned-from-offering-out-of-reach-communications-under-new-laws.html
[17:52] <foobarry> ^Tories^Politicians and civil servants
[17:58] <awilkins> Just MEH
[18:39] <ali1234> the funny thing is that microsoft, apple, google etc can just ship us the same crap version of their software that they send to crypto-embargoed terrorist states
[18:44] <zmoylan-pi> at this point is there any crypto secure software that hasn't been backdoored
[18:46] <ali1234> almost all of it?
[18:54] <mapps> csi cyber time;d
[19:52] <davmor2> One, two princes kneel before you  That what I said now  Princes, princes who adore you !
[20:21] <diddledan_> so that encryption thingy - are they saying that companies must retain full transcripts of communications to correlate against an encrypted version when asked to provide the unencrypted?
[20:26] <diddledan_> they need to MitM all web browsing, too?!
[20:41] <zmoylan-pi> it been the uk... both
[20:41] <zmoylan-pi> just to be sure
[20:43] <zmoylan-pi> but there's no real change there. sinn fein used to have a site were you could bid for british spy gear they kept finding everywhere...