[00:00] python 3.4, dur [00:00] weva, cryptsetup works with image files too, so you can cryptsetup luksDump some.image to see if it's LUKS or not [00:00] it installed to 2.7 by default [00:00] weva, or did you mean you are migrating an unencrypted one to luks? === toby is now known as Guest95418 [00:05] frostschutz, I tried it not with luksdump, but with luksopen, and the results were the same for different disk images I have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13075829/ [00:05] I tried it with the mounted images that I had difficulty unmounting in the recent session [00:06] weva, cryptsetup would create (and remove) the necessary loop devices for you [00:06] weva, what does 'file the.image' say? [00:08] Hi All, does anyone have any advice on Research and implementing a mail server with ubuntu server 14.04.3? I am new to these kinds of "Big boy" projects and would like to learn how to research these kinds of things [00:08] hi. i write "su -l" to give a root, now i need to typed "sudo -i". how to fix this. i want to give a root after typed "su -l" [00:08] frostschutz, it says "image.dd: data" [00:09] DJ_: Found on the google: http://www.tecmint.com/setup-postfix-mail-server-in-ubuntu-debian/ hope it helps! [00:10] niee: on ubuntu we use sudo. so we use sudo -i to get a root shell [00:10] weva, so it's not a known type, filesystem, luks, or raid image... were you expecting it to be? [00:10] ulkesh, While I appreciate thel link share I am not asking for an article to blindly follow. I am reaching out to ask how the community Plans their implemenations and researchs their products [00:11] hi [00:11] frostschutz, this was a partition that I properly created as encrypted, and then transferred 2,5 gb of files into, and locked before powering off the drive. in the next session, the partition was shown as "unknown" [00:11] kl1 but befor in my ubuntu 11.04 i use "su -l" to give a root shell. [00:11] DJ_: pardon me, then [00:12] niee: then it was improperly configured. [00:12] ok, not sure how well this will come across, so work with me. I have a new HP Envy computer. I bough an SSD that im trying to upgrade it to. Ihave been trying to clone the partitions, but i cant seem to boot into windows 10. ( i have been using DD to clone it). SO - WOuld you suggest or believe that intead of using the parittion command, and went for the entire drive, it would work? My Other question, is that, the origianal [00:12] I dont know what happened, but 2,5gb of data must be somewhere inside, as I haven't deleted any file, folder or partition [00:15] niee: The Ubuntu standard is that you use sudo to elevate, such as using "sudo -i" to gain a root shell. [00:15] niee: If that's what is now necessary - Great! It's working as it should. [00:15] weva, encrypted as in LUKS? you need to find the LUKS header then [00:16] uklesh, I'm not trying to be a dick, promise [00:16] hopefully your LUKS not run out [00:16] ok. tnx for help :) [00:16] daftykins: oh, nicely done [00:16] hello [00:16] quantic: thanks :D [00:16] so glad someone noticed ;_; [00:17] hello [00:17] hello [00:17] DJ_: No worries, I gotcha :) I assumed too quickly and didn't properly read your original question. Apologies here :) [00:18] frostschutz, yes, it is luks encrypted. but, aside from the question how i can find the header, does it help when the file is not shown as an encrypted ext4 filesystem? [00:18] weva: because until its decrypted, how would the system know it's a filesystem at all? [00:18] HoloIRCUser, transfering windows is beyond the scope of this channel, in ##windows they should be able to tell how without activation problems [00:18] quantic, so it's shown as unknown because it's encrypted? [00:18] weva: Being able to determine what type of filesystem exists inside an encrypted container would be an information leak. [00:18] weva, normally, testdisk should find LUKS headers... if you're looking for alternatives, 'sudo strings -t d /where/to/look | grep LUKS' (but it will give you false matches as well) [00:19] OerHeks. i know- but they refer me to here because im using DD [00:19] Can anyone recommend a good laptop, reliable best bang-for-buck. Minimum specs: [15.6",1600x900,4GB RAM,option for ssd upgrade] under $1000? [00:19] literally any 300$ laptop will do [00:20] davegri - yoga [00:20] Most $300 laptops don't have those specs or they are complete shit [00:20] Yeah I'm leaning towards Lenovo [00:20] I've never actually owned a laptop though so I have shit-all experience [00:20] oh :/ [00:21] the yoga is hot- but ur cant mod it. SO- maybe something HP or ... less slim line. [00:21] I got mine used for $500~ with 8 gigs of ram, I just put in a caddy for an ssd where the cd drive was [00:21] laptops suck [00:21] yeah.. i got a new HP that im messing with on the same way. [00:21] the screen isn't 1600*900 though [00:21] quantic, I understand. the root cause seems to be something gone wrong in the filesystem, because not all the partitions have become "unknown", there are intact luks partitions. [00:21] yeah, true- but they are portable. [00:21] they have heat issues, speed issues, interface is shit [00:21] How is this deal? http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-20DF0040US-15-6-Inch-Laptop/dp/B00SJ2G7UI/ref=sr_1_27?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1446294635&sr=1-27&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A2423841011%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A7817222011%7C7817223011%7C7817224011%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A9647485011%7C9647486011 [00:22] a 15.6" monitor and 4GB of RAM is pretty much the standard these days. The only problem is the underpowered CPU compared to desktops. [00:22] davegri: please ask that in ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic [00:23] you should look for a laptop with a decent cpu, nothing over the top, 4+ gigs of ram and a cd drive, you can just swap the cd drive out for an ssd and be good to go [00:23] davegri - i have the same CPU on my new HP. I have 16gb ram though. ..... so - id weigh out the usage of hte new computer. [00:23] frostschutz, I also read about testdisk or gparted could restore filesystems. that was why I thought about changing file type via testdisk and creating the image of the new file to restore a partition from it [00:23] davegri: #ubuntu-offtopic for system advice, this is support only. [00:23] do you think it might help? [00:23] you can get an i5/i7 in that price range easy, even if it's a QM the performance will be respectable [00:24] baiter: that language is NOT acceptable - and don't bring that negativity here either. [00:25] weva, not sure what you mean by change file type via testdisk... testdisk is supposed to find things, not change things [00:26] ok first time on irc and just wading into debian [00:26] locutus_: this is #ubuntu - so you might want to join #debian [00:27] ;) [00:27] thank you dat [00:27] actually, mean "debian based" [00:27] I'm trying to build a server with a BTRFS RAID 1 root on top of encrypted volumes. Normally, initramfs doesn't want to decrypt two different volumes on boot, but I modified /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/cryptroot to fix this. However, the system still refuses to boot if the BTRFS system wants two devices, even though both of those devices are unlocked. [00:27] Anyone know what's going on here? I can mount the BTRFS system without error from within the initramfs rescue shell, but for some reason it's not mounting automatically in the scripts. [00:27] I'm more accustomed to redhat historically [00:28] locutus_: ok, support chat only here - chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :) [00:28] ok thankyou. will add that as well [00:29] frostschutz, that's also what I should think. but I found an online post about it, and saw in testdisk the "T" option, which changes the file type, and I set it as "linux LUKS"..then I copied the new file to a drive, the dd file that I referred to. [00:30] I think I am going to have to reinstall Linux, after just reinstalling it a while ago. I don't think it should be necessary, except that I installed all of these sound applications from kxstudio. They required the use of jack audio. [00:33] weva, do you actually have to recover this data or can you just ... copy it again from wherever you copied the first time? [00:33] yeah that'd break it :) [00:34] daftykins, Who is your comment aimed at? [00:35] andystar: you [00:35] frostschutz, the two places on two different drives, where I copied the data, have both become "unknown" at the same time. so I can get image of two partitions as many times as I can, but cannot access the data which I suppose is still in there, as I saw them there before all this happened [00:35] daftykins, Thanks. [00:35] so I'm having a problem where I cannot have my bluetooth (bose ae2w) work in conjunction to outputing/inputing sound. [00:36] since they are LUKS partitions, I might not have success with testdisk anyway, if I'm not mistaken? [00:36] !sound [00:36] If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [00:36] Trying to use teamspeak but, it's become a pain. [00:36] I mean in trying to recover data right now [00:37] !games [00:37] Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://www.penguspy.com/ [00:37] frostschutz, sorry for the long answer, the answer to your question is that the data is only in these two borked partitions now [00:38] weva, if it was luks encrypted you need the luks header. if testdisk does not find it, try strings. otherwise, end of the line [00:38] except that I could probably use testdisk on my hard drive from where I cut-pasted them to the external drive [00:38] andystar, hey looking for some great games for linux ? [00:39] but I think strings would be much easier than digging into hundreds of GB to find 2,5gb of data [00:39] andystar, Steam has some great games for linux for free; just need to have an account with them to access their linux games. [00:40] frostschutz, I see. so no use in creating a partition from the dd image? [00:40] Hey, trying to customize a LiveCD. It says here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization that the home directory is generated at some point. I think it's through casper, but I tried adding lines in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom along the lines of what was in there and nothing is added to the LiveCD. I'm in a chroot now on the same image in Ubuntu Customization Kit. [00:41] or no possibility of file system restore via gparted or, theoretically, via fsck? [00:41] samthewildone, The sound query to ubottu was for you. I was curious as to what ubottu had in its database about games, as well. [00:41] just asking, as I am wary of fsck, being unfamiliar with it [00:42] samthewildone, Teamspeak is only used for games, from what I have seen. [00:43] andystar, ah, but I'm having more of a bluetooth output problems. [00:43] andystar: please query the factoids or PM the bot directly in future :) [00:43] !brain [00:43] Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | Make a clone of me: /msg ubottu botclone [00:45] frostschutz, so in the command 'sudo strings -t d /where/to/look | grep LUKS' "where to look" would be the "unknown" luks partition on the drive? [00:45] samthewildone, Have you tried asking in a hardware forum? [00:45] daftykins, !ubottu can be pretty fun. [00:45] bbl === InfoTest1 is now known as InfoTest [00:47] How would I go about creating a VPN on my home machine so when at work I can connect to my home VPN? [00:47] daftykins, It looks like I didn't trigger it, by including an exclamation point in the middle of my sentence. [00:48] andystar: no, nor should you as you're now spamming. [00:52] meanwhile, I'd like to see what happens with the image file. in this command "dd if=image.dd of=/dev/sdX bs=1M" will /dev/sdX be the destination drive where the partition created by the image will be saved? [00:52] daftykins, Sorry. My first two queries to it were for samthewildone's sake. The third one was in response to yours. You seemed to want to be jovial about the chatbot. [00:53] andystar: well i mentioned private messaging or clicking the factoids link, so... bear that in mind :) [00:53] weva, it would be the drive or image file where you believe the luks header to be. and don't dd the image back to the disk, that's unnecessary... [00:54] weva, i.e. if you don't know where it is, search the whole drive, with testdisk too if you used testdisk on a partition instead of whole disk before [00:55] frostschutz, I presume the luks header would be on the external drive where I created the partition, am I correct? [00:57] could it be anywhere on the whole drive, or is it likely that it is found within the partition's own area(as it is still clearly seen as /dev/sdbX) [00:57] ? [00:58] weva, it would be at the very beginning of the partition in question normally, (and file -s -L /dev/device would say it's LUKS as would luksDump) [00:58] so if the partition in question is /dev/sdb9, would it be correct to type sudo strings -t d /dev/sdb9 | grep LUKS ? [00:58] frostschutz, so if the partition in question is /dev/sdb9, would it be correct to type sudo strings -t d /dev/sdb9 | grep LUKS ? [01:01] frostschutz, file -s -L /dev/sdc9 says '/dev/sdc9: data', like earlier [01:04] VPN, anyone? [01:05] frostschutz, in that case, would it still be correct to use " sudo strings -t d /dev/sdc9 | grep LUKS" ? [01:05] !vpn | moon__ have a read [01:05] moon__ have a read: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN [01:05] @moon__ i use it when im under linux [01:05] read that link above moon__ [01:05] vpn1clik i use [01:05] or is it called 1clickvpn [01:06] google for it [01:06] daftykins, I have reread your comment. It looks like you were just trying to inform me about ubottu. I have already seen the factoid, and I already had ubottu in a private message room, though. I guess you wanted ubottu to just quote the link for you. [01:06] on it, thanks for the info bazhang AND xburger [01:06] andystar: ok [01:06] andystar, take the chat to the offtopic room NOT here [01:06] ok [01:07] @moon__ you may wanna edit /etc/resolv.conf and add line nameserver 80.67.0.2 to be abele to use it === InfoTest1 is now known as InfoTest [01:08] xburger: probably best not to get carried away when you're not sure of the persons' provider yet ;) [01:09] bazhang, stop yelling at me. [01:09] @daftykins whell thas what i needed to add in order vpn to work its dns server [01:10] xburger: that IP looks like it could be one for your ISP, so that'd be totally irrelevant [01:11] @daftykins im not under vpn now im in windows now when im in ubuntu im using vpn cause it's my boot routine under ubuntu [01:11] frostschutz, ok, I am applying the command as I pasted above, but how will know if an output is a luks header? does it have a particular extension, expression..? [01:11] xburger: none of what you just said is relevant to me, or anyone [01:12] @daftykins im trying to understand what are you telling to me but i just dont.... [01:13] xburger: nevermind then :) best not to advice people if you're not familiar. [01:13] frostschutz, i found one [01:13] *advise [01:13] how will I proceed? [01:14] it is a ten-digit number with LUKS next to it [01:16] @daftykins everything i wrote to moon_ is just what i did and waht im doing every time when i boot in ubuntu cause /etc/resolv.conf is restarting every time you reboot [01:17] xburger: stop. [01:17] my touchpad on a dell running dual boot ubuntu 14.04 and windows 10 is not working either on ubuntu or windows 10... it was working until now... i havnt noticed anything that mightve changed it... anyone can help? [01:18] so in the gateway portion of the VPN connection window what should the gateway be? [01:18] moon__: you need a provider first. [01:18] Is this a pay service, I had thought I read somewhere that you could use cisco any connect as a free provider? [01:18] ghost-face1: pull the battery + mains, hold power for 5 seconds then reassemble [01:19] weva, create a loop device, using losetup --read-only --offset=thenumber, then cryptsetup luksDump the loop device [01:19] daftykinds: what are the mains? [01:20] the electricity supply. [01:20] daftykins: ok i will try.. thanks... whats the reason do you know? [01:20] upgraded to wily, there doesn't seem to be a suspend option in the logoutt menu in gnome now (classic) [01:20] ? [01:20] ghost-face1: just try it. [01:20] ok [01:22] frostschutz, the offset would be the start point of the first partition on the drive, that is, /dev/sdc1 ? [01:26] daftykins: thank you very much sir.. it helped.. idk why but it did :) [01:27] I botched my system installing ATI drivers on 14.04 can someone help me fix it? [01:28] ghost-face: nice reset to the hardware there \o/ [01:28] thanks [01:30] ola [01:30] oi gatinha [01:30] !es [01:30] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro. [01:31] !br [01:31] Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br " sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada. [01:32] Does installing linux persistently on a flash drive make the installation non-portable? [01:33] how can I screen shot a selection of a screen? [01:33] can unbuntu do this out of the box? [01:33] synergistics due to issues with drivers it's not portable [01:34] monty I don't think so but you can edit the capture later [01:34] monty_hall: alt+print screenshots the active window [01:34] synergistics: to a large degree yes; with proprietary drivers (especially GPU) sometimes not [01:35] TJ-: So installing the drivers for the computer you go to is the barrier to portability? [01:35] Then what's the best way to maintain a constant installation but migrate computers? [01:35] Or make the transition to a new computer as seamless as possible [01:35] (Not using a VM) [01:35] hello, frostschutz seems to have gone. can someone here help me further maybe? [01:36] synergistics: Well, generally it won't be a problem for open source drivers which are the majority, because the Linux kernel loads drivers in response to what hardware it discovers each time it starts [01:36] synergistics: but where, for example, there's a hard-coded /etc/X11/xorg.conf for, say, an nvidia Optimus system, that is going to cause the Xserver to failsafe itself on a system with an Intel GPU [01:38] synergistics: same issue with, say, Wifi drivers. If the installer system only has fully open-source driver hardware 0 not Broadcom - but then you move the USB to a system with a Broadcom Wifi chipset, you'll have to install the broadcom drivers - unless you've gone through that beforehand [01:38] TJ-: So if I do move to another computer, installing the proper drivers will be sufficient in some cases? [01:38] does anyone here regularly do console emulation? [01:38] specifically wii (dolphin) ? [01:38] synergistics: Yes, and if you know ahead of time what drivers are likely to be needed you can install them on the system that doesn't require them [01:38] Ah I see [01:39] synergistics: E.g. accelerated GPU drivers for AMD, Nvidia. WiFi drivers for Broadcom,, some Realtek [01:39] Why is it that hardware will sometimes just work without me needing to install drivers [01:39] synergistics: because the drivers are already in the Linux kernel because they are open-sourced [01:40] Ah, yea [01:40] synergistics: Generally, the Linux kernel contains the drivers for every device you can imagine, with some notable exceptions because the hardware chipset makers won't/don't release the technical specifications or help kernel devs develop a driver [01:41] Yea, I remember reading about the kernel and drivers [01:41] Ok, thanks for the help [01:41] synergistics: And, at boot-time the kernel identifies each hardware chipset and loads the correct driver [01:41] I see [01:42] it seems like it doesn't take much storage space to hold all the driver specifications; why is that? [01:42] Or that it would take more than it does to do so [01:43] synergistics: drivers for each kernel version are stored under /lib/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/. Drivers really don't need that much space for their code in most instances. Generic code - stuff that all drivers use - is implemented just once in the kernel and called by all modules (drivers) that need it [01:43] hi all [01:43] Oh ok [01:45] hello there [01:45] synergistics: Ubuntu builds kernels with the most common essential modules already built-in to the kernel image, which is stored at /boot/vmlinuz-${KERNEL_VERSION}. Additional modules are loaded as the hardware is discovered, when the kernel sends an Event to the udevd (user-space device daemon) which in turn calls 'modprobe' which locates the correct driver and inserts into the kernel's memory. [01:46] I cannot log in 14.04 since I installed AMD proprietary driver. Can someone help? [01:47] SatshiRole: can you acess a non-graphical tty? [01:48] hey everyone.. anyone know where i can get a little help with pimd ? [01:48] i am stuck... i have the multicast route .. i can ping.. i have sysct.conf settings setup.. everything.. i can pickup the MUlticast on point B > C .. but i can't pickup from A > B > C [01:49] anyone know pimd well? [01:49] TJ-: Ok, I see [01:50] TJ-: I was reading the book "How Linux Works"; I'll have to get back to that now! [01:50] Hello. I would like some clarification on something. Lately I've been hearing about Ubuntu sending local search queries to Amazon, among with other data that really shouldn't be send anywhere. My question is whether this actually occurs, and if it's directly related to the Unity UI, as I'm currently running Lubuntu. [01:51] Mike41: afaik its unity specific [01:53] Mike41: there is/was an Amazon shopping 'lens' or whatever Unity calls them which forwarded dash searches, which is user configurable. I'm not sure about the current state of those recently since I use Kubuntu. [01:55] ok thanks [01:55] mjayk: No, can't even log on. I guess, I'll have to go into single user. [01:57] SatshiRole: can you Ctrl+Alt+F1 to a console and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ? [01:57] SatshiRole: What we mean, at the login screen - key combo ctl+alt+F1 ; does this activate a console interface ? [01:57] anyone help with pimd ? [01:59] Bashing-om: TJ-: I understand. Once you type in the username, and password. It sits there for a bit, and then just goes back to tty1 logon: [02:00] SatshiRole: Now THAT is unexpected! [02:02] SatshiRole: did (you) change anything else at the same time of installing the AMD driver? What you describe sounds like a possible issue with the PAM modules (Portable Authentication Modules) which handle log-ins [02:05] TJ-: No, I was following these directions: [02:05] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD [02:05] Under section 3.1, but several issues occurred.... [02:05] SatshiRole: if you reboot to single-user mode, check the /var/log/auth.log for clues [02:05] hmmm... so i have a linux box i'm using as a router... it has 3 network cards.. one I want to use for WAN then two LANs (each serving iPS dor differnet subnetS) how do I tell the linux server to hand out IPs in the 172.16.0.0 subnet on eth2 and to hand out IPs on 192.168.28.0 on ETH1 [02:05] SatshiRole: I can't think of anything GPU driver related that should/could affect log-in [02:05] right now the server is listening on interfaces [02:05] TJ-: I won't know how to read it, but I can pastebin it for you. [02:05] but i dont know how the server knows which interface to use for each subnet [02:06] maddawg2: sounds like a job for Shorewall [02:06] maddawg2: #ubuntu-server [02:06] using IPTables actually [02:06] or pfsense :) [02:06] Shorewall! [02:06] :D [02:06] * daftykins hides [02:06] !info shorewall | maddawg2 [02:06] maddawg2: shorewall (source: shorewall): Shoreline Firewall, netfilter configurator. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.6.4.3-2 (wily), package size 672 kB, installed size 2059 kB [02:06] TJ-: second though, it would be very painstaking to do so. [02:06] o0 [02:06] i know what shorewall is [02:07] but i cant use shorewall [02:07] SatshiRole: you could boot the system from a live ISO with network access and then pull the log files out that way [02:07] has anyone ever tried to pipe mic input as well as system sounds to a virtual mic for the purpose of combining both sources to a skype call? [02:07] TJ-: Yes, I could. [02:07] maddawg2: the system 'knows' based onthe routing table [02:08] ah gotcha TJ- [02:08] technically my second interface is actually a VLAN interface (not a physical interface) [02:08] Pinkamena_D: there's a PulseAudio module that can do loopback; that might be what you need [02:08] eth1.2 [02:08] and eth1 [02:08] TJ-: Is that where you'd like me to start, or do you want to hear more about what I did, and the errors that occured? [02:09] SatshiRole: it's far easy and quicker for use if we can see the logs; we often spot things quickly from experience that you may not realise are significant [02:09] maddawg2: i really think -server or ##networking would be more relevant. [02:09] SatshiRole: it also avoids miscommunication and wrong assumptions and interpretations [02:09] thanks daftykins but TJ- jst answered my question so no need to [02:10] maddawg2: well anything further and yeah, better off there :P [02:10] TJ-: okay, I'll get the live CD. [02:10] i am using the live session of xubuntu from usb flash stick, windows did something so grub does not start, how can i reinstall grub again? [02:11] please help? [02:12] !grub [02:12] GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 [02:12] see there [02:12] Guest77381, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd [02:12] or there too [02:21] hello, sorry I was about to apply a solution to recover luks headers of my partition, but frostschutz has left, can you help me further maybe? [02:22] I'd last applied strings and a number was detected [02:24] weva: recover headers? does that imply you had back-ups? [02:24] TJ-: really weird way of thinking about it, but yes, that module works! Thank you for the suggestion. [02:24] ooft. What a pain. So I've just reinstalled Ubunti 15.10 (a couple of times today) due to Nvidia driver issues. I struggle to get into the OS on a fresh install unless i follow a strict process. Now... i have the OS installed and the Nvidia drivers working. The question is, for how long.. Is anyone who is familiar willing to look at the Xorg.log output for me to see if they can spot something out of the usual? [02:24] The reason being is that after a couple of reboots with zero changes... i'll have issues getting into the OS due to graphics problems [02:24] Pinkamena_D: I recall doing that myself some time ago, for another purpose. [02:25] hazamonzo_: cold or warm reboots? That can sometimes make a difference? [02:25] hazamonzo_: let me guess, are you installing the download from their website? [02:25] Im worried that if i setup all the apps on this laptop again that i need it will just bork out on me :) [02:26] daftykins: Afraid not. Im doing it via the commandline (nvidia-352) [02:26] well that's good! [02:26] TJ-: Last time the OS failed to let me in was a cold boot [02:26] daftykins: I've been doing this a couple of times the last few days! :D [02:26] hazamonzo_: is it a UEFI or BIOS system? [02:26] TJ-: Bios [02:27] TJ-: booting now. Nickname will be Rexter, or Rexter1. [02:27] Opted for Win7 on this system :) [02:27] hazamonzo_: And, is it Optimus (hybrid) or only Nvidia ? [02:27] TJ-: One of the erros that i noticed before this fresh install in the Xorg log was issues with "finding a display" [02:28] TJ-: Hybrid. Intel and Nvidia K2100M [02:28] ()K2100M is supported as far as the nvidia website is concerned for the 352 driver [02:28] I did notice an odd thing though [02:29] i get one error hen booting from the live dvd or the regular install [02:29] hazamonzo_: OK, so the issue is likely to do with the system having issues with the Optimus config, and possibly setting up the video output incorrectly occassionally. [02:29] Some error about the intel i915 (can't remember the number) having issues loading [02:29] TJ-: I tink you might be right as the system is working fine now but its unstable when i restart [02:30] hazamonzo_: possible sources of clues/help: /var/log/gpu-manager.log, run "sudo /usr/bin/prime-supported" and then look at /var/log/prime-supported.log, as well as /var/log/Xorg.0.log and friends [02:30] TJ-: Perfect! Let me have a look [02:31] hazamonzo_: Optimus is a nightmare I steer well clear of! [02:32] TJ-: Noted. Im having a hard enough time as it is :D [02:32] I installed all my dev tools earlier only for the system to give me a hard time :( [02:32] hazamonzo_: You've probably already checked, but there are sometimes settings to influence it in the BIOS Setup [02:33] TJ-: I didn't actually dig into the BIOS just yet [02:33] But i've been pointed in the direction of prime-select and bumblebee ect [02:33] Im... not a GPU guy... [02:33] :) [02:34] TJ-: So prime-supported = yes [02:35] TJ-: And i can pastebin the Xorg.log if you have a moment to run your eyes over it for any unusual items? [02:35] Bumblebee is deprecated now Nvidia has nvidia-prime, but we were discussing this earlier; Last time I dug in deep I found that -prime driver doesn't support MUX-less Optimus chipsets - that is, dual GPUs where the outputs are NOT switched between the GPUs using a multiplexer. That's caught a few people unawares but not sure if that support is still absent [02:35] I know that when i was having issues booting i had a couple of EE errors in there [02:35] hazamonzo_: sure, more eyes the better [02:35] TJ-: Appreciated! One mo [02:36] not gone into BIOS?! wowzer :) [02:36] TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079423/ [02:36] daftykins: hehehe. I only ever visit it if i have to change the boot order :) [02:37] ah that's a rookie mistake, one time boot menus are far superior to messing with order [02:37] oh a xorg.conf has been made. === Admin__ is now known as prelude2004c [02:37] daftykins: Hehehe. Hey! i had a hard time with windows 8+ even getting to the BIOS! :D [02:38] shutdown -s -t 1 [02:38] actually that fails to factor in fastboot i guess [02:38] nm, off topic [02:39] daftykins: lol. I was about to google it [02:39] hazamonzo_: I'd suspect, when it goes wrong, you don't get this line: "[ 21.875] (**) |-->Inactive Device "intel"" [02:39] daftykins: there always is with -prime [02:39] TJ- I have backups that are shown as "unknown" partitions..I think we were talking about it yesterday [02:40] TJ-: you think the intel card kicks into life or something and has issues? [02:40] TJ-: so maybe that user i mentioned needs to run nvidia-xconfig ? o0 [02:40] i've always had folk use prime with auto [02:40] hazamonzo_: Yes, that'd be my best guess. If the Intel starts as the primary for some reason [02:41] the problem was that I created these partitions as backups before reinstalling system. I saw the data was transferred in them. but now they are there as "unknown" partitions [02:41] TJ-: There might be something to that... i see an error even on the live dvd thats related to the i915 or something? [02:41] daftykins: the installer usually does it from what I've seen, but yes, possibly. Every -prime system I've looked at has a default xorg.conf with the GPUs listed. [02:41] And from what i've read thats an intel thing [02:42] TJ-: hmm, are we talking about something other than grabbing nvidia-352 and nvidia-prime together? [02:42] hazamonzo_: yes, i915 is the driver for many recent Intel GPUs. Although, there are a few common warnings it puts out that can be safely ignored [02:42] daftykins: not that I know of, but as you know I try to avoid -prime! [02:43] Hehehe. Is there a couple of configs i could check reagrding the loading of these cards? [02:43] *regarding [02:43] weva: does "sudo blkid /dev/sdXY" fail to identify any meta-data in them? [02:44] hazamonzo_: I think it depends on which one is set as primary in BIOS, but that's a hunch not proven [02:44] TJ-: http://pastebin.com/vkLNxS20 [02:44] TJ-: I assume there is no config where i can for the working Nvidia card to be primary. At least for now [02:44] *force [02:45] I'd rather have an OS i can rely on that one that performs well on the battery :) [02:46] hazamonzo_: Well, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the xserver config but that was auto-generated and I'd trust it to be correct. The log you showed just now suggests everything is optimal using the Nvidia GPU, but if you want the low/high power switching you'll likely need to check BIOS settings first in case the Intel is disabled. [02:46] TJ- the command gives no output. it just jumps to command prompt [02:47] weva: which suggests there's no intelligible metadata there [02:47] TJ-: Would there be any reason that the intel would be disabled as this is a brand new laptop and i haven't messed with the BIOS so far [02:47] TJ- but strings returned a ten-digit number with LUKS written in red next to it [02:47] Rexter: hmmm, which user, 'mike' or 'aj' (or both) have the log-in issue? [02:48] Rexter: this bothers me: "PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" [02:48] Rexter: you have/had Kubuntu installed on that PC? [02:50] TJ-: Both users cannot log in. Mike is admin. No, just regular Ubuntu. I was able to log in both users, just a couple of hours ago. [02:51] SatshiRole: line 185/186 might be important - looks like PAM is trying to authenticate to a Windows/Samba server )pam_winbind) [02:53] TJ-: Well im going to do a reboot and have a quick look at BIOS to see if i can spot anything. Lets hope i can get back afterwards! :D Thanks for your help === ubuntu is now known as Guest65037 [02:54] SatshiRole: also line 177/178 suggests 'aj' is unknown to the unix password file [02:56] TJ-: is it possible that the system was doing some sort of updates, and there was a conflict.... none of this makes sense. Did you take a look at the directions I was following? [02:59] SatshiRole: these auth issues don't make sense if user 'aj' is a local system user, that's for sure. [02:59] Hi guys. I'm having an issue with upower. It doesn't correctly report line_power events. Only when i unplug it reports both the line_power and bat events together. [03:00] TJ-: well, the devel's in the details, so let me tell you what I did, and maybe someone will chime it. [03:01] Here are the directions I followed: [03:01] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD [03:01] section 3.1 [03:02] Well dang! [03:02] where can i find a discussion about nootropics [03:02] I gt an error message on the step one. I don't know the exact error, but either a folder didn't exist. So I just moved on. [03:02] TJ-: Hey mate. Just restarted. Didn't see much interesting in BIOS but the machine in question failed to get to the UI. If you're interested this is the latest Xorg.log. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079607/ [03:03] hello [03:03] there should be no mister black [03:03] rather mr orange or mr pink [03:03] pink [03:03] python [03:03] monty_hall, this is ubuntu support. stay on topic. [03:03] sorry [03:03] wrong channel :P [03:04] weva: what does "sudo cryptsetup isluks /dev/sdXY" report for the backups? [03:04] Step two, there was nothing to remove. [03:04] TJ-: I see... (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. but thats about it. Some error about "No monitor specified for screen "nvidia"." also [03:04] Not sure if it helps [03:04] (whew) [03:04] therefor, I did not reboot as instructed in step 3 [03:05] hazamonzo: weird; that log file indicates everything is OK [03:05] TJ-: Oh yeah? :s [03:05] TJ-: Maybe the OS is working but not on the default LCD display? [03:06] hazamonzo: how many monitors are connected? [03:06] None at the moment [03:06] TJ-: And none since the fresh install [03:06] TJ- it reports these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079630/ [03:08]