[00:00] <ajacmac> python 3.4, dur
[00:00] <frostschutz> weva, cryptsetup works with image files too, so you can cryptsetup luksDump some.image to see if it's LUKS or not
[00:00] <ajacmac> it installed to 2.7 by default
[00:00] <frostschutz> weva, or did you mean you are migrating an unencrypted one to luks?
[00:05] <weva> frostschutz, I tried it not with luksdump, but with luksopen, and the results were the same for different disk images I have: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13075829/
[00:05] <weva> I tried it with the mounted images that I had difficulty unmounting in the recent session
[00:06] <frostschutz> weva, cryptsetup would create (and remove) the necessary loop devices for you
[00:06] <frostschutz> weva, what does 'file the.image' say?
[00:08] <DJ_> Hi All,  does anyone have any advice on Research and implementing a mail server with ubuntu server 14.04.3? I am new to these kinds of "Big boy" projects and would like to learn how to research these kinds of things
[00:08] <niee> hi. i write "su -l" to give a root, now i need to typed "sudo -i". how to fix this. i want to give a root after typed "su -l"
[00:08] <weva> frostschutz, it says "image.dd: data"
[00:09] <ulkesh> DJ_: Found on the google: http://www.tecmint.com/setup-postfix-mail-server-in-ubuntu-debian/   hope it helps!
[00:10] <k1l> niee: on ubuntu we use sudo. so we use sudo -i to get a root shell
[00:10] <frostschutz> weva, so it's not a known type, filesystem, luks, or raid image... were you expecting it to be?
[00:10] <DJ_> ulkesh, While I appreciate thel link share I am not asking for an article to blindly follow. I am reaching out to ask how the community Plans their implemenations and researchs their products
[00:11] <CrazyLegz> hi
[00:11] <weva> frostschutz, this was a partition that I properly created as encrypted, and then transferred 2,5 gb of files into, and locked before powering off the drive. in the next session, the partition was shown as "unknown"
[00:11] <niee> kl1 but befor in my ubuntu 11.04 i use "su -l" to give a root shell.
[00:11] <ulkesh> DJ_: pardon me, then
[00:12] <quantic> niee: then it was improperly configured.
[00:12] <HoloIRCUser> ok, not sure how well this will come across, so work with me. I have a new HP Envy computer. I bough an SSD that im trying to upgrade it to. Ihave been trying to clone the partitions, but i cant seem to boot into windows 10. ( i have been using DD to clone it). SO - WOuld you suggest or believe that intead of using the parittion command, and went for the entire drive, it would work? My Other question, is that, the origianal 
[00:12] <weva> I dont know what happened, but 2,5gb of data must be somewhere inside, as I haven't deleted any file, folder or partition
[00:15] <quantic> niee: The Ubuntu standard is that you use sudo to elevate, such as using "sudo -i" to gain a root shell.
[00:15] <quantic> niee: If that's what is now necessary - Great! It's working as it should.
[00:15] <frostschutz> weva, encrypted as in LUKS? you need to find the LUKS header then
[00:16] <DJ_> uklesh, I'm not trying to be a dick, promise
[00:16] <daftykins> hopefully your LUKS not run out
[00:16] <niee> ok. tnx for help :)
[00:16] <quantic> daftykins: oh, nicely done
[00:16] <nanotech> hello
[00:16] <daftykins> quantic: thanks :D
[00:16] <daftykins> so glad someone noticed ;_;
[00:17] <nanotech> hello
[00:17] <Guest83556> hello
[00:17] <ulkesh> DJ_: No worries, I gotcha :)  I assumed too quickly and didn't properly read your original question.  Apologies here :)
[00:18] <weva> frostschutz, yes, it is luks encrypted. but, aside from the question how i can find the header, does it help when the file is not shown as an encrypted ext4 filesystem?
[00:18] <quantic> weva: because until its decrypted, how would the system know it's a filesystem at all?
[00:18] <OerHeks> HoloIRCUser, transfering windows is beyond the scope of this channel, in ##windows they should be able to tell how without activation problems
[00:18] <weva> quantic, so it's shown as unknown because it's encrypted?
[00:18] <quantic> weva: Being able to determine what type of filesystem exists inside an encrypted container would be an information leak.
[00:18] <frostschutz> weva, normally, testdisk should find LUKS headers... if you're looking for alternatives, 'sudo strings -t d /where/to/look | grep LUKS' (but it will give you false matches as well)
[00:19] <HoloIRCUser> OerHeks. i know- but they refer me to here because im using DD
[00:19] <davegri> Can anyone recommend a good laptop, reliable best bang-for-buck. Minimum specs: [15.6",1600x900,4GB RAM,option for ssd upgrade] under $1000?
[00:19] <Guest83556> literally any 300$ laptop will do
[00:20] <HoloIRCUser> davegri - yoga
[00:20] <davegri> Most $300 laptops don't have those specs or they are complete shit
[00:20] <davegri> Yeah I'm leaning towards Lenovo
[00:20] <davegri> I've never actually owned a laptop though so I have shit-all experience
[00:20] <HoloIRCUser> oh :/
[00:21] <HoloIRCUser> the yoga is hot- but ur cant mod it. SO- maybe something HP or ... less slim line.
[00:21] <ajacmac> I got mine used for $500~ with 8 gigs of ram, I just put in a caddy for an ssd where the cd drive was
[00:21] <baiter> laptops suck
[00:21] <HoloIRCUser> yeah.. i got a new HP that im messing with on the same way.
[00:21] <ajacmac> the screen isn't 1600*900 though
[00:21] <weva> quantic, I understand. the root cause seems to be something gone wrong in the filesystem, because not all the partitions have become "unknown", there are intact luks partitions.
[00:21] <HoloIRCUser> yeah, true- but they are portable.
[00:21] <baiter> they have heat issues, speed issues, interface is shit
[00:21] <davegri> How is this deal? http://www.amazon.com/Lenovo-ThinkPad-20DF0040US-15-6-Inch-Laptop/dp/B00SJ2G7UI/ref=sr_1_27?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1446294635&sr=1-27&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A2423841011%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A7817222011%7C7817223011%7C7817224011%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A9647485011%7C9647486011
[00:22] <Guest83556> a 15.6" monitor and 4GB of RAM is pretty much the standard these days. The only problem is the underpowered CPU compared to desktops.
[00:22] <k1l> davegri: please ask that in ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:23] <ajacmac> you should look for a laptop with a decent cpu, nothing over the top, 4+ gigs of ram and a cd drive, you can just swap the cd drive out for an ssd and be good to go
[00:23] <HoloIRCUser> davegri - i have the same CPU on my new HP. I have 16gb ram though. ..... so - id weigh out the usage of hte new computer.
[00:23] <weva> frostschutz, I also read about testdisk or gparted could restore filesystems. that was why I thought about changing file type via testdisk and creating the image of the new file to restore a partition from it
[00:23] <daftykins> davegri: #ubuntu-offtopic for system advice, this is support only.
[00:23] <weva> do you think it might help?
[00:23] <ajacmac> you can get an i5/i7 in that price range easy, even if it's a QM the performance will be respectable
[00:24] <daftykins> baiter: that language is NOT acceptable - and don't bring that negativity here either.
[00:25] <frostschutz> weva, not sure what you mean by change file type via testdisk... testdisk is supposed to find things, not change things
[00:26] <locutus_> ok first time on irc and just wading into debian
[00:26] <daftykins> locutus_: this is #ubuntu - so you might want to join #debian
[00:27] <daftykins> ;)
[00:27] <locutus_> thank you dat
[00:27] <locutus_> actually, mean "debian based"
[00:27] <trimeta> I'm trying to build a server with a BTRFS RAID 1 root on top of encrypted volumes. Normally, initramfs doesn't want to decrypt two different volumes on boot, but I modified /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/cryptroot to fix this. However, the system still refuses to boot if the BTRFS system wants two devices, even though both of those devices are unlocked.
[00:27] <trimeta> Anyone know what's going on here? I can mount the BTRFS system without error from within the initramfs rescue shell, but for some reason it's not mounting automatically in the scripts.
[00:27] <locutus_> I'm more accustomed to redhat historically
[00:28] <daftykins> locutus_: ok, support chat only here - chat in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[00:28] <locutus_> ok thankyou. will add that as well
[00:29] <weva> frostschutz, that's also what I should think. but I found an online post about it, and saw in testdisk the "T" option, which changes the file type, and I set it as "linux LUKS"..then I copied the new file to a drive, the dd file that I referred to.
[00:30] <andystar> I think I am going to have to reinstall Linux, after just reinstalling it a while ago.  I don't think it should be necessary, except that I installed all of these sound applications from kxstudio.  They required the use of jack audio.
[00:33] <frostschutz> weva, do you actually have to recover this data or can you just ... copy it again from wherever you copied the first time?
[00:33] <daftykins> yeah that'd break it :)
[00:34] <andystar> daftykins, Who is your comment aimed at?
[00:35] <daftykins> andystar: you
[00:35] <weva> frostschutz, the two places on two different drives, where I copied the data, have both become "unknown" at the same time. so I can get image of two partitions as many times as I can, but cannot access the data which I suppose is still in there, as I saw them there before all this happened
[00:35] <andystar> daftykins, Thanks.
[00:35] <samthewildone> so I'm having a problem where I cannot have my bluetooth (bose ae2w) work in conjunction to outputing/inputing sound.
[00:36] <weva> since they are LUKS partitions, I might not have success with testdisk anyway, if I'm not mistaken?
[00:36] <andystar> !sound
[00:36] <samthewildone> Trying to use teamspeak but, it's become a pain.
[00:36] <weva> I mean in trying to recover data right now
[00:37] <andystar> !games
[00:37] <weva> frostschutz, sorry for the long answer, the answer to your question is that the data is only in these two borked partitions now
[00:38] <frostschutz> weva, if it was luks encrypted you need the luks header. if testdisk does not find it, try strings. otherwise, end of the line
[00:38] <weva> except that I could probably use testdisk on my hard drive from where I cut-pasted them to the external drive
[00:38] <samthewildone> andystar, hey looking for some great games for linux ?
[00:39] <weva> but I think strings would be much easier than digging into hundreds of GB to find 2,5gb of data
[00:39] <samthewildone> andystar, Steam has some great games for linux for free; just need to have an account with them to access their linux games.
[00:40] <weva> frostschutz, I see. so no use in creating a partition from the dd image?
[00:40] <rbong> Hey, trying to customize a LiveCD. It says here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization that the home directory is generated at some point. I think it's through casper, but I tried adding lines in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom along the lines of what was in there and nothing is added to the LiveCD. I'm in a chroot now on the same image in Ubuntu Customization Kit.
[00:41] <weva> or no possibility of file system restore via gparted or, theoretically, via fsck?
[00:41] <andystar> samthewildone, The sound query to ubottu was for you.  I was curious as to what ubottu had in its database about games, as well.
[00:41] <weva> just asking, as I am wary of fsck, being unfamiliar with it
[00:42] <andystar> samthewildone, Teamspeak is only used for games, from what I have seen.
[00:43] <samthewildone> andystar, ah, but I'm having more of a bluetooth output problems.
[00:43] <daftykins> andystar: please query the factoids or PM the bot directly in future :)
[00:43] <daftykins> !brain
[00:45] <weva> frostschutz, so in the command 'sudo strings -t d /where/to/look | grep LUKS'  "where to look" would be the "unknown" luks partition on the drive?
[00:45] <andystar> samthewildone, Have you tried asking in a hardware forum?
[00:45] <andystar> daftykins, !ubottu can be pretty fun.
[00:45] <samthewildone> bbl
[00:47] <moon__> How would I go about creating a VPN on my home machine so when at work I can connect to my home VPN?
[00:47] <andystar> daftykins, It looks like I didn't trigger it, by including an exclamation point in the middle of my sentence.
[00:48] <daftykins> andystar: no, nor should you as you're now spamming.
[00:52] <weva> meanwhile, I'd like to see what happens with the image file.  in this command "dd if=image.dd of=/dev/sdX bs=1M" will /dev/sdX be the destination drive where the partition created by the image will be saved?
[00:52] <andystar> daftykins, Sorry.  My first two queries to it were for samthewildone's sake.  The third one was in response to yours.  You seemed to want to be jovial about the chatbot.
[00:53] <daftykins> andystar: well i mentioned private messaging or clicking the factoids link, so... bear that in mind :)
[00:53] <frostschutz> weva, it would be the drive or image file where you believe the luks header to be. and don't dd the image back to the disk, that's unnecessary...
[00:54] <frostschutz> weva, i.e. if you don't know where it is, search the whole drive, with testdisk too if you used testdisk on a partition instead of whole disk before
[00:55] <weva> frostschutz, I presume the luks header would be on the external drive where I created the partition, am I correct?
[00:57] <weva> could it be anywhere on the whole drive, or is it likely that it is found within the partition's own area(as it is still clearly seen as /dev/sdbX)
[00:57] <weva> ?
[00:58] <frostschutz> weva, it would be at the very beginning of the partition in question normally, (and file -s -L /dev/device would say it's LUKS as would luksDump)
[00:58] <weva> so if the partition in question is /dev/sdb9, would it be correct to type sudo strings -t d /dev/sdb9 | grep LUKS ?
[00:58] <weva> frostschutz, so if the partition in question is /dev/sdb9, would it be correct to type sudo strings -t d /dev/sdb9 | grep LUKS ?
[01:01] <weva> frostschutz, file -s -L /dev/sdc9 says '/dev/sdc9: data', like earlier
[01:04] <moon__> VPN, anyone?
[01:05] <weva> frostschutz, in that case, would it still be correct to use " sudo strings -t d /dev/sdc9 | grep LUKS" ?
[01:05] <bazhang> !vpn | moon__ have a read
[01:05] <xburger> @moon__ i use it when im under linux
[01:05] <bazhang> read that link above moon__
[01:05] <xburger> vpn1clik i use
[01:05] <xburger> or is it called 1clickvpn
[01:06] <xburger> google for it
[01:06] <andystar> daftykins, I have reread your comment.  It looks like you were just trying to inform me about ubottu.  I have already seen the factoid, and I already had ubottu in a private message room, though.  I guess you wanted ubottu to just quote the link for you.
[01:06] <moon__> on it, thanks for the info bazhang AND xburger
[01:06] <daftykins> andystar: ok
[01:06] <bazhang> andystar, take the chat to the offtopic room NOT here
[01:06] <andystar> ok
[01:07] <xburger> @moon__ you may wanna edit /etc/resolv.conf and add line nameserver 80.67.0.2 to be abele to use it
[01:08] <daftykins> xburger: probably best not to get carried away when you're not sure of the persons' provider yet ;)
[01:09] <andystar> bazhang, stop yelling at me.
[01:09] <xburger> @daftykins whell thas what i needed to add in order vpn to work its dns server
[01:10] <daftykins> xburger: that IP looks like it could be one for your ISP, so that'd be totally irrelevant
[01:11] <xburger> @daftykins im not under vpn now im in windows now when im in ubuntu im using vpn cause it's my boot routine under ubuntu
[01:11] <weva> frostschutz, ok, I am applying the command as I pasted above, but how will know if an output is a luks header? does it have a particular extension, expression..?
[01:11] <daftykins> xburger: none of what you just said is relevant to me, or anyone
[01:12] <xburger> @daftykins im trying to understand what are you telling to me but i just dont....
[01:13] <daftykins> xburger: nevermind then :) best not to advice people if you're not familiar.
[01:13] <weva> frostschutz, i found one
[01:13] <daftykins> *advise
[01:13] <weva> how will I proceed?
[01:14] <weva> it is a ten-digit number with LUKS next to it
[01:16] <xburger> @daftykins everything i wrote to moon_ is just what i did and waht im doing every time when i boot in ubuntu cause /etc/resolv.conf is restarting every time you reboot
[01:17] <daftykins> xburger: stop.
[01:17] <ghost-face1> my touchpad on a dell running dual boot ubuntu 14.04 and windows 10 is not working either on ubuntu or windows 10... it was working until now... i havnt noticed anything that mightve changed it... anyone can help?
[01:18] <moon__> so in the gateway portion of the VPN connection window what should the gateway be?
[01:18] <daftykins> moon__: you need a provider first.
[01:18] <moon__> Is this a pay service, I had thought I read somewhere that you could use cisco any connect as a free provider?
[01:18] <daftykins> ghost-face1: pull the battery + mains, hold power for 5 seconds then reassemble
[01:19] <frostschutz> weva, create a loop device, using losetup --read-only --offset=thenumber, then cryptsetup luksDump the loop device
[01:19] <ghost-face1> daftykinds: what are the mains?
[01:20] <daftykins> the electricity supply.
[01:20] <ghost-face1> daftykins: ok i will try.. thanks... whats the reason do you know?
[01:20] <micah> upgraded to wily, there doesn't seem to be a suspend option in the logoutt menu in gnome now (classic)
[01:20] <micah> ?
[01:20] <daftykins> ghost-face1: just try it.
[01:20] <ghost-face1> ok
[01:22] <weva> frostschutz, the offset would be the start point of the first partition on the drive, that is, /dev/sdc1 ?
[01:26] <ghost-face> daftykins: thank you very much sir.. it helped.. idk why but it did :)
[01:27] <SatshiRole> I botched my system installing ATI drivers on 14.04 can someone help me fix it?
[01:28] <daftykins> ghost-face: nice reset to the hardware there \o/
[01:28] <ghost-face> thanks
[01:30] <arnold> ola
[01:30] <arnold> oi gatinha
[01:30] <daftykins> !es
[01:31] <emitattuo> !br
[01:32] <synergistics> Does installing linux persistently on a flash drive make the installation non-portable?
[01:33] <monty_hall> how can I screen shot a selection of a screen?
[01:33] <monty_hall> can unbuntu do this out of the box?
[01:33] <Mike41> synergistics due to issues with drivers it's not portable
[01:34] <Mike41> monty I don't think so but you can edit the capture later
[01:34] <k1l> monty_hall: alt+print screenshots the active window
[01:34] <TJ-> synergistics: to a large degree yes; with proprietary drivers (especially GPU) sometimes not
[01:35] <synergistics> TJ-: So installing the drivers for the computer you go to is the barrier to portability?
[01:35] <synergistics> Then what's the best way to maintain a constant installation but migrate computers?
[01:35] <synergistics> Or make the transition to a new computer as seamless as possible
[01:35] <synergistics> (Not using a VM)
[01:35] <weva> hello, frostschutz seems to have gone. can someone here help me further maybe?
[01:36] <TJ-> synergistics: Well, generally it won't be a problem for open source drivers which are the majority, because the Linux kernel loads drivers in response to what hardware it discovers each time it starts
[01:36] <TJ-> synergistics: but where, for example, there's a hard-coded /etc/X11/xorg.conf for, say, an nvidia Optimus system, that is going to cause the Xserver to failsafe itself on a system with an Intel GPU
[01:38] <TJ-> synergistics: same issue with, say, Wifi drivers. If the installer system only has fully open-source driver hardware 0 not Broadcom - but then you move the USB to a system with a Broadcom Wifi chipset, you'll have to install the broadcom drivers - unless you've gone through that beforehand
[01:38] <synergistics> TJ-: So if I do move to another computer, installing the proper drivers will be sufficient in some cases?
[01:38] <fluffy_punch> does anyone here regularly do console emulation?
[01:38] <fluffy_punch> specifically wii (dolphin) ?
[01:38] <TJ-> synergistics: Yes, and if you know ahead of time what drivers are likely to be needed you can install them on the system that doesn't require them
[01:38] <synergistics> Ah I see
[01:39] <TJ-> synergistics: E.g. accelerated GPU drivers for AMD, Nvidia. WiFi drivers for Broadcom,, some Realtek
[01:39] <synergistics> Why is it that hardware will sometimes just work without me needing to install drivers
[01:39] <TJ-> synergistics: because the drivers are already in the Linux kernel because they are open-sourced
[01:40] <synergistics> Ah, yea
[01:40] <TJ-> synergistics: Generally, the Linux kernel contains the drivers for every device you can imagine, with some notable exceptions because the hardware chipset makers won't/don't release the technical specifications or help kernel devs develop a driver
[01:41] <synergistics> Yea, I remember reading about the kernel and drivers
[01:41] <synergistics> Ok, thanks for the help
[01:41] <TJ-> synergistics: And, at boot-time the kernel identifies each hardware chipset and loads the correct driver
[01:41] <synergistics> I see
[01:42] <synergistics> it seems like it doesn't take much storage space to hold all the driver specifications; why is that?
[01:42] <synergistics> Or that it would take more than it does to do so
[01:43] <TJ-> synergistics: drivers for each kernel version are stored under /lib/modules/${KERNEL_VERSION}/. Drivers really don't need that much space for their code in most instances. Generic code - stuff that all drivers use - is implemented just once in the kernel and called by all modules (drivers) that need it
[01:43] <ASSCAPTAIN> hi all
[01:43] <synergistics> Oh ok
[01:45] <Mike41> hello there
[01:45] <TJ-> synergistics: Ubuntu builds kernels with the most common essential modules already built-in to the kernel image, which is stored at /boot/vmlinuz-${KERNEL_VERSION}. Additional modules are loaded as the hardware is discovered, when the kernel sends an Event to the udevd (user-space device daemon) which in turn calls 'modprobe' which locates the correct driver and inserts into the kernel's memory.
[01:46] <SatshiRole> I cannot log in 14.04 since I installed AMD proprietary driver. Can someone help?
[01:47] <mjayk> SatshiRole: can you acess a non-graphical tty?
[01:48] <Admin__> hey everyone.. anyone know where i can get a little help with pimd ?
[01:48] <Admin__> i am stuck... i have the multicast route .. i can ping.. i have sysct.conf settings setup.. everything.. i can pickup the MUlticast on point B > C .. but i can't pickup from A > B > C
[01:49] <Admin__> anyone know pimd well?
[01:49] <synergistics> TJ-: Ok, I see
[01:50] <synergistics> TJ-: I was reading the book "How Linux Works"; I'll have to get back to that now!
[01:50] <Mike41> Hello. I would like some clarification on something. Lately I've been hearing about Ubuntu sending local search queries to Amazon, among with other data that really shouldn't be send anywhere. My question is whether this actually occurs, and if it's directly related to the Unity UI, as I'm currently running Lubuntu.
[01:51] <mjayk> Mike41: afaik its unity specific
[01:53] <TJ-> Mike41: there is/was an Amazon shopping 'lens' or whatever Unity calls them which forwarded dash searches, which is user configurable. I'm not sure about the current state of those recently since I use Kubuntu.
[01:55] <Mike41> ok thanks
[01:55] <SatshiRole> mjayk: No, can't even log on. I guess, I'll have to go into single user.
[01:57] <TJ-> SatshiRole: can you Ctrl+Alt+F1 to a console and "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[01:57] <Bashing-om> SatshiRole: What we mean, at the login screen - key combo ctl+alt+F1 ; does this activate a console interface ?
[01:57] <Admin__> anyone help with pimd ?
[01:59] <SatshiRole> Bashing-om: TJ-: I understand. Once you type in the username, and password. It sits there for a bit, and then just goes back to tty1 logon:
[02:00] <TJ-> SatshiRole: Now THAT is unexpected!
[02:02] <TJ-> SatshiRole: did (you) change anything else at the same time of installing the AMD driver? What you describe sounds like a possible issue with the PAM modules (Portable Authentication Modules) which handle log-ins
[02:05] <SatshiRole> TJ-: No, I was following these directions:
[02:05] <SatshiRole> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[02:05] <SatshiRole> Under section 3.1, but several issues occurred....
[02:05] <TJ-> SatshiRole: if you reboot to single-user mode, check the /var/log/auth.log for clues
[02:05] <maddawg2> hmmm... so i have a linux box i'm using as a router... it has 3 network cards.. one I want to use for WAN then two LANs (each serving iPS dor differnet subnetS) how do I tell the linux server to hand out IPs in the 172.16.0.0 subnet on eth2 and to hand out IPs on 192.168.28.0 on ETH1
[02:05] <TJ-> SatshiRole: I can't think of anything GPU driver related that should/could affect log-in
[02:05] <maddawg2> right now the server is listening on interfaces
[02:05] <SatshiRole> TJ-: I won't know how to read it, but I can pastebin it for you.
[02:05] <maddawg2> but i dont know how the server knows which interface to use for each subnet
[02:06] <TJ-> maddawg2: sounds like a job for Shorewall
[02:06] <daftykins> maddawg2: #ubuntu-server
[02:06] <maddawg2> using IPTables actually
[02:06] <daftykins> or pfsense :)
[02:06] <TJ-> Shorewall!
[02:06] <TJ-> :D
[02:06]  * daftykins hides
[02:06] <TJ-> !info shorewall | maddawg2
[02:06] <SatshiRole> TJ-: second though, it would be very painstaking to do so.
[02:06] <daftykins> o0
[02:06] <maddawg2> i know what shorewall is
[02:07] <maddawg2> but i cant use shorewall
[02:07] <TJ-> SatshiRole: you could boot the system from a live ISO with network access and then pull the log files out that way
[02:07] <Pinkamena_D> has anyone ever tried to pipe mic input as well as system sounds to a virtual mic for the purpose of combining both sources to a skype call?
[02:07] <SatshiRole> TJ-: Yes, I could.
[02:07] <TJ-> maddawg2: the system 'knows' based onthe routing table
[02:08] <maddawg2> ah gotcha TJ-
[02:08] <maddawg2> technically my second interface is actually a VLAN interface (not a physical interface)
[02:08] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: there's a PulseAudio module that can do loopback; that might be what you need
[02:08] <maddawg2> eth1.2
[02:08] <maddawg2> and eth1
[02:08] <SatshiRole> TJ-: Is that where you'd like me to start, or do you want to hear more about what I did, and the errors that occured?
[02:09] <TJ-> SatshiRole: it's far easy and quicker for use if we can see the logs; we often spot things quickly from experience that you may not realise are significant
[02:09] <daftykins> maddawg2: i really think -server or ##networking would be more relevant.
[02:09] <TJ-> SatshiRole: it also avoids miscommunication and wrong assumptions and interpretations
[02:09] <maddawg2> thanks daftykins but TJ- jst answered my question so no need to
[02:10] <daftykins> maddawg2: well anything further and yeah, better off there :P
[02:10] <SatshiRole> TJ-: okay, I'll get the live CD.
[02:10] <Guest77381> i am using the live session of xubuntu from usb flash stick, windows did something so grub does not start, how can i reinstall grub again?
[02:11] <Guest77381> please help?
[02:12] <daftykins> !grub
[02:12] <daftykins> see there
[02:12] <maddawg2> Guest77381, http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[02:12] <maddawg2> or there too
[02:21] <weva> hello, sorry I was about to apply a solution to recover luks headers of my partition, but frostschutz has left, can you help me further maybe?
[02:22] <weva> I'd last applied strings and a number was detected
[02:24] <TJ-> weva: recover headers? does that imply you had back-ups?
[02:24] <Pinkamena_D> TJ-: really weird way of thinking about it, but yes, that module works! Thank you for the suggestion.
[02:24] <hazamonzo_> ooft. What a pain. So I've just reinstalled Ubunti 15.10 (a couple of times today) due to Nvidia driver issues. I struggle to get into the OS on a fresh install unless i follow a strict process. Now... i have the OS installed and the Nvidia drivers working. The question is, for how long.. Is anyone who is familiar willing to look at the Xorg.log output for me to see if they can spot something out of the usual?
[02:24] <hazamonzo_> The reason being is that after a couple of reboots with zero changes... i'll have issues getting into the OS due to graphics problems
[02:24] <TJ-> Pinkamena_D: I recall doing that myself some time ago, for another purpose.
[02:25] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: cold or warm reboots? That can sometimes make a difference?
[02:25] <daftykins> hazamonzo_: let me guess, are you installing the download from their website?
[02:25] <hazamonzo_> Im worried that if i setup all the apps on this laptop again that i need it will just bork out on me :)
[02:26] <hazamonzo_> daftykins: Afraid not. Im doing it via the commandline (nvidia-352)
[02:26] <daftykins> well that's good!
[02:26] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Last time the OS failed to let me in was a cold boot
[02:26] <hazamonzo_> daftykins: I've been doing this a couple of times the last few days! :D
[02:26] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: is it a UEFI or BIOS system?
[02:26] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Bios
[02:27] <SatshiRole> TJ-: booting now. Nickname will be Rexter, or Rexter1.
[02:27] <hazamonzo_> Opted for Win7 on this system :)
[02:27] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: And, is it Optimus (hybrid) or only Nvidia ?
[02:27] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: One of the erros that i noticed before this fresh install in the Xorg log was issues with "finding a display"
[02:28] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Hybrid. Intel and Nvidia K2100M
[02:28] <hazamonzo_> ()K2100M is supported as far as the nvidia website is concerned for the 352 driver
[02:28] <hazamonzo_> I did notice an odd thing though
[02:29] <hazamonzo_> i get one error hen booting from the live dvd or the regular install
[02:29] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: OK, so the issue is likely to do with the system having issues with the Optimus config, and possibly setting up the video output incorrectly occassionally.
[02:29] <hazamonzo_> Some error about the intel i915 (can't remember the number) having issues loading
[02:29] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: I tink you might be right as the system is working fine now but its unstable when i restart
[02:30] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: possible sources of clues/help: /var/log/gpu-manager.log, run "sudo /usr/bin/prime-supported" and then look at /var/log/prime-supported.log, as well as /var/log/Xorg.0.log and friends
[02:30] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Perfect! Let me have a look
[02:31] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: Optimus is a nightmare I steer well clear of!
[02:32] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Noted. Im having a hard enough time as it is :D
[02:32] <hazamonzo_> I installed all my dev tools earlier only for the system to give me a hard time :(
[02:32] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: You've probably already checked, but there are sometimes settings to influence it in the BIOS Setup
[02:33] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: I didn't actually dig into the BIOS just yet
[02:33] <hazamonzo_> But i've been pointed in the direction of prime-select and bumblebee ect
[02:33] <hazamonzo_> Im... not a GPU guy...
[02:33] <hazamonzo_> :)
[02:34] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: So prime-supported = yes
[02:35] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: And i can pastebin the Xorg.log if you have a moment to run your eyes over it for any unusual items?
[02:35] <TJ-> Bumblebee is deprecated now Nvidia has nvidia-prime, but we were discussing this earlier; Last time I dug in deep I found that -prime driver doesn't support MUX-less Optimus chipsets - that is, dual GPUs where the outputs are NOT switched between the GPUs using a multiplexer. That's caught a few people unawares but not sure if that support is still absent
[02:35] <hazamonzo_> I know that when i was having issues booting i had a couple of EE errors in there
[02:35] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: sure, more eyes the better
[02:35] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Appreciated! One mo
[02:36] <daftykins> not gone into BIOS?! wowzer :)
[02:36] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079423/
[02:36] <hazamonzo_> daftykins: hehehe. I only ever visit it if i have to change the boot order :)
[02:37] <daftykins> ah that's a rookie mistake, one time boot menus are far superior to messing with order
[02:37] <daftykins> oh a xorg.conf has been made.
[02:37] <hazamonzo_> daftykins: Hehehe. Hey! i had a hard time with windows 8+ even getting to the BIOS! :D
[02:38] <daftykins> shutdown -s -t 1
[02:38] <daftykins> actually that fails to factor in fastboot i guess
[02:38] <daftykins> nm, off topic
[02:39] <hazamonzo_> daftykins: lol. I was about to google it
[02:39] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: I'd suspect, when it goes wrong, you don't get this line: "[    21.875] (**) |-->Inactive Device "intel""
[02:39] <TJ-> daftykins: there always is with -prime
[02:39] <weva> TJ- I have backups that are shown as "unknown" partitions..I think we were talking about it yesterday
[02:40] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: you think the intel card kicks into life or something and has issues?
[02:40] <daftykins> TJ-: so maybe that user i mentioned needs to run nvidia-xconfig ? o0
[02:40] <daftykins> i've always had folk use prime with auto
[02:40] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: Yes, that'd be my best guess. If the Intel starts as the primary for some reason
[02:41] <weva> the problem was that I created these partitions as backups before reinstalling system. I saw the data was transferred in them. but now they are there as "unknown" partitions
[02:41] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: There might be something to that... i see an error even on the live dvd thats related to the i915 or something?
[02:41] <TJ-> daftykins: the installer usually does it from what I've seen, but yes, possibly. Every -prime system I've looked at has a default xorg.conf with the GPUs listed.
[02:41] <hazamonzo_> And from what i've read thats an intel thing
[02:42] <daftykins> TJ-: hmm, are we talking about something other than grabbing nvidia-352 and nvidia-prime together?
[02:42] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: yes, i915 is the driver for many recent Intel GPUs. Although, there are a few common warnings it puts out that can be safely ignored
[02:42] <TJ-> daftykins: not that I know of, but as you know I try to avoid -prime!
[02:43] <hazamonzo_> Hehehe. Is there a couple of configs i could check reagrding the loading of these cards?
[02:43] <hazamonzo_> *regarding
[02:43] <TJ-> weva: does "sudo blkid /dev/sdXY" fail to identify any meta-data in them?
[02:44] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: I think it depends on which one is set as primary in BIOS, but that's a hunch not proven
[02:44] <Rexter> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/vkLNxS20
[02:44] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: I assume there is no config where i can for the working Nvidia card to be primary. At least for now
[02:44] <hazamonzo_> *force
[02:45] <hazamonzo_> I'd rather have an OS i can rely on that one that performs well on the battery :)
[02:46] <TJ-> hazamonzo_: Well, /etc/X11/xorg.conf is the xserver config but that was auto-generated and I'd trust it to be correct. The log you showed just now suggests everything is optimal using the Nvidia GPU, but if you want the low/high power switching you'll likely need to check BIOS settings first in case the Intel is disabled.
[02:46] <weva> TJ- the command gives no output. it just jumps to command prompt
[02:47] <TJ-> weva: which suggests there's no intelligible metadata there
[02:47] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Would there be any reason that the intel would be disabled as this is a brand new laptop and i haven't messed with the BIOS so far
[02:47] <weva> TJ- but strings returned a ten-digit number with LUKS written in red next to it
[02:47] <TJ-> Rexter: hmmm, which user, 'mike' or 'aj' (or both) have the log-in issue?
[02:48] <TJ-> Rexter: this bothers me: "PAM unable to dlopen(pam_kwallet.so): /lib/security/pam_kwallet.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[02:48] <TJ-> Rexter: you have/had Kubuntu installed on that PC?
[02:50] <SatshiRole> TJ-: Both users cannot log in. Mike is admin. No, just regular Ubuntu. I was able to log in both users, just a couple of hours ago.
[02:51] <TJ-> SatshiRole: line 185/186 might be important - looks like PAM is trying to authenticate to a Windows/Samba server )pam_winbind)
[02:53] <hazamonzo_> TJ-: Well im going to do a reboot and have a quick look at BIOS to see if i can spot anything. Lets hope i can get back afterwards! :D Thanks for your help
[02:54] <TJ-> SatshiRole: also line 177/178 suggests 'aj' is unknown to the unix password file
[02:56] <SatshiRole> TJ-: is it possible that the system was doing some sort of updates, and there was a conflict.... none of this makes sense. Did you take a look at the directions I was following?
[02:59] <TJ-> SatshiRole: these auth issues don't make sense if user 'aj' is a local system user, that's for sure.
[02:59] <knikolla> Hi guys. I'm having an issue with upower. It doesn't correctly report line_power events. Only when i unplug it reports both the line_power and bat events together.
[03:00] <SatshiRole> TJ-: well, the devel's in the details, so let me tell you what I did, and maybe someone will chime it.
[03:01] <SatshiRole> Here are the directions I followed:
[03:01] <SatshiRole> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[03:01] <SatshiRole> section 3.1
[03:02] <hazamonzo> Well dang!
[03:02] <mrblack> where can i find a discussion about nootropics
[03:02] <SatshiRole> I gt an error message on the step one. I don't know the exact error, but either a folder didn't exist. So I just moved on.
[03:02] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Hey mate. Just restarted. Didn't see much interesting in BIOS but the machine in question failed to get to the UI. If you're interested this is the latest Xorg.log. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079607/
[03:03] <monty_hall> hello
[03:03] <monty_hall> there should be no mister black
[03:03] <monty_hall> rather mr orange or mr pink
[03:03] <mrblack> pink
[03:03] <mrblack> python
[03:03] <cfhowlett> monty_hall, this is ubuntu support.  stay on topic.
[03:03] <monty_hall> sorry
[03:03] <monty_hall> wrong channel :P
[03:04] <TJ-> weva: what does "sudo cryptsetup isluks /dev/sdXY" report for the backups?
[03:04] <SatshiRole> Step two, there was nothing to remove.
[03:04] <hazamonzo> TJ-: I see... (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. but thats about it. Some error about "No monitor specified for screen "nvidia"." also
[03:04] <hazamonzo> Not sure if it helps
[03:04] <hazamonzo> (whew)
[03:04] <SatshiRole> therefor, I did not reboot as instructed in step 3
[03:05] <TJ-> hazamonzo: weird; that log file indicates everything is OK
[03:05] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Oh yeah? :s
[03:05] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Maybe the OS is working but not on the default LCD display?
[03:06] <TJ-> hazamonzo: how many monitors are connected?
[03:06] <hazamonzo> None at the moment
[03:06] <hazamonzo> TJ-: And none since the fresh install
[03:06] <weva> TJ- it reports these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079630/
[03:08] <amicrawler> can any body lead me how to get my wifi working right
[03:09] <TJ-> hazamonzo: you remember what I said earlier about MUX-less Optimus?
[03:09] <cfhowlett> !wifi | amicrawler
[03:09] <weva> TJ- but the partition is shown with a star here : http://is.gd/htJ1hK does this not mean that it is mounted?
[03:09] <amicrawler> used that no help
[03:09] <amicrawler> wifi is Qualcomm Atheros Device 0041 (rev 20)
[03:10] <TJ-> hazamonzo: I wonder if the PC you have, is of that type. In which case, the Intel GPU would need to be active since MUX-less works by the nvidia doing the work but the Intel writing the framebuffer to the outputs, rather than with MUX systems where each GPU writes to its own framebuffers, and the outputs are switched between the 2 GPUs
[03:10] <weva> also gparted shows it is mounted at /home
[03:10] <amicrawler> os is ubuntu 15.10
[03:10] <TJ-> weva: which ubuntu release is that on?
[03:11] <hazamonzo> TJ-: That sounds.... technical! :D
[03:11] <weva> TJ- it is on my external drive, my system is 14.04.3
[03:11] <TJ-> weva: Oh! my typo! "sudo cryptsetup isLuks /dev/sdc9" (not the UPPER-CASe L) !
[03:12] <TJ-> hazamonzo: it's a computer, not an apple pie :d
[03:12] <weva> TJ- so it has to be upper case?
[03:12] <dshove> channel #etherboot
[03:12] <TJ-> weva: The 'L' of Luks does, yes
[03:13] <TJ-> weva: oH!! Add the option '-v' in there too, as in "sudo cryptsetup -v isLuks /dev/sdc9" so it tells you the status
[03:13] <hazamonzo> TJ-: Hahaha
[03:14] <hazamonzo> Im just pottering around. setting up a moniter
[03:14] <hazamonzo> See what happens :)
[03:14] <weva> TJ- well.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079668/
[03:15] <weva> I find a luks string in /dev/sdc9, but it turns out not to be a valid luks device..the question remains; what am I to do, where is my data that i saw there with my own eyes..:)
[03:16] <TJ-> weva: was /dev/sdc9 always an encrypted block device using LUKS, or was its data copied from an original LUKS device elsewhere?
[03:17] <weva> TJ- it was created just before the data transfer to it. its data was copied from my hard drive, which was at least not home-folder encrypted.
[03:18] <weva> sorry, not copied, but cut-pasted
[03:18] <hazamonzo> TJ-: ooft. I give up for now. It gone 3am. I'll take a look again tomorrow. Thanks for the help mate
[03:18] <Scriptonaut> hey guys, does anyone know of a package or a configuration that will make my super key (windows key, command key, etc) act like the command key in os x?
[03:18] <Scriptonaut> I use os x at work often times, and ubuntu everywhere else. I prefer ubuntu, but one thing I really miss is the command key
[03:19] <Scriptonaut> and I don't want to merely bind the command key to ctrl, that doesn't work very well in the terminal
[03:19] <michael__> Question about future compatibility
[03:19] <TJ-> weva: so the process was effectively "cryptsetup luksFormat ... /dev/sdc9; cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc9 crypt_sdc9; mount /dev/mapper/crypt_sdc9 /mnt/tmp; ... cp -a /home/$USER/ /mnt/tmp; ... umount /mnt/tmp; cryptsetup luksClose crypt_sdc9" ?
[03:20] <michael__> After Mir is released, will Xlib-based applications still work?
[03:20] <weva> TJ- if you're asking me how I created the partition and transferred the files, I used all GUIs for them
[03:20] <weva> nautilus and gnome disk utility
[03:21] <TJ-> weva: Hmmm; wasn't aware they had LUKS format capabilities
[03:21] <weva> I might have used gparted to do initial formats of drives..which made me think when I heard of mbr-gpt mismatch as a possible cause of this filesystem problem..
[03:22] <SatshiRole> Scriptonaut: what does the command key do in the terminal in OSX?
[03:22] <weva> TJ- yes, gnome disk utility can do ext4 luks encryption
[03:22] <TJ-> weva: can you show me "pastebinit <( sudo dd if=/dev/sdc9 bs=16384 count=1 | hexdump -C )"
[03:23] <Scriptonaut> SatshiRole: it doesn't output a control character, like it does in ubuntu. For example, if I Command+v, it pastes my clipboard contents
[03:23] <TJ-> weva: obviously it doesn't do it correctly!
[03:23] <weva> TJ- with the final ")" included?
[03:23] <TJ-> Yes
[03:24] <TJ-> weva: that <( ... ) is process I/O redirection, collects the output, gives it to pastebinit
[03:25] <weva> TJ- here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079728/
[03:26] <TJ-> weva: don't know what the tools did, but the LUKS metadata header should be at offset 0 through to 00000250 ... there's none there
[03:26] <quest8> hi?
[03:27] <TJ-> weva: so you need to figure out if the tools create detached LUKs headers and if so where they put them!
[03:27] <VergilPrime> So i have a stupid question
[03:28] <TJ-> weva: this is the kind of thing you'd expect to see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079742/
[03:28] <VergilPrime> Is it possible to symlink files so that I can write code on my machine and have it automagically update code on another code via SSH?
[03:29] <VergilPrime> on another machine*
[03:29] <daftykins> no
[03:29] <TJ-> VergilPrime: Yes; use sshfs
[03:29] <TJ-> !info sshfs
[03:29] <weva> TJ- I see..where else could they be places?
[03:29] <weva> placed*
[03:29] <somsip> VergilPrime: there are various types of software that allow syncing, either on demand or manually. git-sync, btsync for example
[03:30] <TJ-> VergilPrime: with sshfs you would directly edit the remote files, mounted in the local file-system
[03:30] <Scriptonaut> VergilPrime: is there any reason you don't just use git for this?
[03:30] <Scriptonaut> You want it to automatically update with each file save?
[03:30] <VergilPrime> Yeah
[03:30] <Scriptonaut> I used to have a setup with ftp that did this
[03:31] <Scriptonaut> I dunno if ftp is the ideal setup though
[03:31] <TJ-> weva: I have no idea; any tool that does detached LUKS headers and doesn't inform you is bad. I wonder if that is even a LUKS device at all; it could be a 'plain' dm_crypt device with no LUKS header at all, in which case you'd need to know the key to unlock it
[03:31] <VergilPrime> This code is for prototyping so I generally preffer speed over anything else and I am used to A. deploying code on my own machine or B. using windows Notepad++ FTP that automagically uploads every time I save.
[03:31] <somsip> VergilPrime: git with a post-commit pull to update the remote machine. But not really on topic here
[03:31] <VergilPrime> somsip, sorry, didn't know where specifically to ask.
[03:31] <weva> TJ- I sure still have my password
[03:32] <VergilPrime> I'll look into sshfs and git
[03:32] <TJ-> weva: try "sudo cryptsetup open --type plain /dev/sdc9 crypt_sdc9"
[03:33] <rober> hello i need help. i need change a file from utf-8 to ascii
[03:34] <VergilPrime> open it in a text editor and save it under the new format?
[03:34] <VergilPrime> :I
[03:34] <weva> TJ- gosh, it asks me "enter passphrase"..should I enter the partition's encryption password?
[03:34] <VergilPrime> Am I stupid in thinking that's how that works?
[03:34] <rober> it is not possible
[03:34] <somsip> !info iconv | rober (iconv --from-code UTF-8 --to-code US-ASCII -c inputfile > outputfile)
[03:35] <rober> i tried with incov but do not work
[03:35] <TJ-> info uni2ascii | rober
[03:35] <TJ-> !info uni2ascii | rober
[03:36] <TJ-> weva: Yes, and then you'll need to test the resulting device mapper node to see if the data in it makes sense, with "sudo blkid /dev/mapper/crpyt_sdc9"
[03:37] <TJ-> weva: I rather think it'll be garbage though
[03:37] <weva> TJ- I entered my password and it said "Device crypt_sdc9 already exists"...by the way, I think itwasnt there before, but now I see in device list /dev/sdc9 mounted at /dev/mapper
[03:37] <rober> i need explanation how to use that command. i am sorry for my english i speak spanish
[03:37] <cfhowlett> !es | rober
[03:38] <weva> TJ- crpyt_sdc9 or crypt_sdc9 ?
[03:38] <rober> in ubuntu-es nobody answered me
[03:41] <adun153> Hello everyone, my Enigmail on Thunderbird stopped working after I upgraded from 15.04 to 15.10. It doesn't ask me for my private key passphrase anymore,  and immediately returns this message when I try to open an encrypted message "Error - no matching private/secret key found to decrypt message"
[03:41] <adun153> "gpg --list-key" still lists my keys as being there.
[03:42] <adun153> What could I try out?
[03:44] <TJ-> weva: "Device crypt_sdc9 already exists" suggests some other tool already tried/did unlock the block device
[03:44] <TJ-> adun153: sounds like an issue with the password agent that (should) run in the session
[03:45] <freerider> quit
[03:45] <weva> TJ- I don't know about it..I entered my password for the first time since the partition has this state
[03:47] <weva> TJ- this is how it currently looks: http://is.gd/nMkiti
[03:48] <TJ-> weva: something created /dev/mapper/crypt_sdc9, if it was there before you tried my 'cryptsetup open ...' suggestion
[03:49] <weva> TJ- I, too, first noticed it after I entered my passphrase
[03:52] <TJ-> weva: You'll have to research what the tools you used to encrypt the partition actually did/do, since it obviously is NOT LUKS - unless the tools used detached headers, but that makes no sense, since the first 4KB was left blank, which is where the header should be. It looks to me as if something wiped the original header out
[03:54] <weva> TJ-, that is probably the whole story behind the switching of the partition from encrypted LUKS label to "unknown"...if I could only know what happened. the same kind of damage on three different drives.
[03:55] <weva> and at the same time interval
[03:55] <weva> speaking of two of them, also at the same time
[03:57] <weva> TJ- frostschutz had last written that I should do " losetup --read-only --offset=thenumber, then cryptsetup luksDump the loop device"
[03:57] <weva> TJ- does it point to another approach?
[03:57] <TJ-> If 'something' added that /dev/mapper/crypt_sdc9 node that 'something' must have some configuration somewhere telling it to do that, since there is no metadata attached to /dev/sdc9 itself. If you find that config data it might help you figure out what is going on
[03:58] <TJ-> if you've got /dev/mapper/crypt_sdc9 is it possible you've got 2 layers of encryption going on?
[03:58] <weva> TJ- where might I need to look in? under /dev/mapper there is a file named crypt_sdc
[03:58] <TJ-> weva: in other words, is there a LUKS header in that device?
[03:58] <weva> sorry crypt_sdc9
[03:59] <TJ-> weva: "sudo cryptsetup -v isLuks /dev/mapper/crypt_sdc9" for example?
[03:59] <zoidfarb> Hi, this isn't strictly an Ubuntu question, it's more of a bash question, but if I'm running `$spark-submit --master spark_align.py --scoring_matrix PAM250 --gap_penalty 5 --output_file score pdbnr.100.fasta` How do I make sure the later options get passed to the Python script and not to spark-submit?
[04:00] <TJ-> zoidfarb: that would be up to $spark-submit
[04:01] <weva> TJ- no different http://paste.ubuntu.com/13079907/
[04:03] <TJ-> weva: whatever those GUI tools were doing, I'd take it up with their developers!
[04:06] <weva> TJ- do you think they could explain what might have borked the partitionsß
[04:06] <weva> ?
[04:08] <TJ-> I don't know, but they should be able to recreate the scenario from your description of what you did
[04:16] <weva> TJ- I will reboot shortly, and be back
[04:17] <Mobil> Hi, If I'm running a certain desktop environment
[04:17] <Mobil> Hi, If I'm running a certain desktop environment and I switch over to another one with a new hdd but backup all my stuff from my previous hdd, what would work and what wouldn't?
[04:20] <fowl> Wow I tried to install 15.10 and the installer just sits there like it doesn't know what to do
[04:20] <fowl> Is that intentional
[04:20] <baiter> no
[04:21] <liquid4rchiv3> anybody know how to add virtual desktops using linux mint 17.2 mate edition
[04:21] <baiter> wrong chat
[04:21] <fowl> I tried to boot into it and it was slow as hell too then it gives me messages that the USB is out of space
[04:22] <fowl> It was slowly eating the persistent part
[04:22] <baiter> how much space did the partition you were installing to have?
[04:22] <fowl> I didn't get that far
[04:23] <liquid4rchiv3> usb gets slower with more disk space used
[04:23] <baiter> how far did you get?
[04:23] <liquid4rchiv3> 4
[04:24] <baiter> basically, select partition is very early in the process
[04:24] <baiter> only after does install really begin
[04:24] <fowl> I got to a very slowly loading kde desktop with messages like space remaining: 400 mb, 200 mb, 0 mb, then it kind of stopped
[04:24] <fowl> Um when I tried to install from the first menu I clicked continue, the first button, and it hanged
[04:25] <baiter> were you using live usb?
[04:25] <fowl> Neither worked
[04:25] <wileee> fowl, the persistent fills up not really any way to clear it, you can delete the casper-rw though that is it.
[04:26] <fowl> Couldn't even get to choose partitions
[04:26] <wileee> fowl, you have a non sequitur, installs has nothing in general it can be sone with the iso only, you filled it so, fix it.
[04:27] <LambdaComplex> liquid4rchiv3: FWIW, back when I used Mint XFCE, for some reason I stopped being able to change my workspace settings (i.e. add or remove)
[04:27] <fowl> wileee: no guy it filled itself
[04:27] <wileee> fowl, Yes while you were using it.
[04:28] <wileee> standard procedure
[04:28] <fowl> wileee: lol? What?
[04:28] <fowl> wileee: it filled itself before the desktop loaded
[04:28] <wileee> fowl, well you're either trolling or stupid, I gave you the answers
[04:29] <fowl> You are trolling
[04:29] <fowl> As I said it filled up before the desktop loaded
[04:29] <DeaDSouL> hi, my M.2 ssd (samsung XP941) was working and booting just fine with (efi) ... then i replaced the m.2 ssd with another one I have, which has another distro... and when i was done, I put the M.2 ssd (xp941) back in the motherboard.. but now I can't boot it at all.. does anyone know why ?
 I got to a very slowly loading kde desktop with messages like space remaining: 400 mb, 200 mb, 0 mb, then it kind of stopped  This was not a one time event
[04:30] <fowl> I thought that persistent part was for my data. Not for Ubuntu to fluff off and use it for whatever it wants to
[04:30] <fowl> wileee: yes it was, I had just created the USB through startup disk creator
[04:31] <wileee> fowl, Ah, my mistake, than remove the casper no persistent then, check the md5sums at some point if needed, other outliers in this area really
, check uefi, see all the storage drives appear
[04:33] <DeaDSouL> baiter: is there any command ? blkid, lsblk ?
[04:34] <baiter> can't you go into uefi?
[04:34] <baiter> on start, press the hotkey for efi
[04:34] <baiter> just make sure all the storage devices are appearing properly
[04:35] <weva> oh, TJ- seems to have left..
[04:37] <AyyHello> Hello, yersteday with ioria I was able to find my home folder with a liveusb, and see my files. (I didn't open them though) Can anybody help me with copy pasting the home folders to my hard drive?
[04:39] <fowl> Trying again with xubuntu
[04:39] <baiter> if it's not encrypted, you can just use cp
[04:40] <AyyHello> baiter:  I am experiencing a problem with that
[04:40] <AyyHello> baiter:  Since I dont know the syntax etc
[04:42] <DeaDSouL_> baiter: it is /boot/EFI and /EFI/
[04:42] <baiter> i mean your uefi
[04:42] <baiter> as in bios
[04:42] <baiter> when your computer starts
[04:43] <baiter> it does a check
[04:43] <baiter> and a screen will appear
[04:43] <baiter> saying press delete or f11 or something to enter bios
[04:43] <baiter> make sure both storage devices appear
[04:44] <DeaDSouL_> baiter: yes, in the ExFlash i have EF0 and inside it i have dir called EFI
[04:45] <DeaDSouL_> baiter: means EzFlash *
[04:47] <MarchHare> Question: I would like to run a very simple dhcp serverr from the command line, no special configs, possibly one-off. A simple command line invocation involving the interface and the range to hand out would be nice. Any suggestions? Everything I'm finding on the net involves isc and dhcp3, both of which are daemons that I really don't want running on their own on a normally-client machine
[04:47] <MarchHare> To wit: if I run it, it terminates cleanly when I ^C out of it.
[04:50] <DeaDSouL> baiter: in the EzFlash Utility it shows FS0 > EFI
[04:58] <fowl> Xubuntu works much better than kubuntu so far
[04:59] <MarchHare> Question: I would like to run a very simple dhcp serverr from the command line, no special configs, possibly one-off. A simple command line invocation involving the interface and the range to hand out would be nice. Any suggestions? Everything I'm finding on the net involves isc and dhcp3, both of which are daemons that I really don't want running on their own on a normally-client machine. To wit, I want a simple command-line dhcp s
[04:59] <MarchHare> erver that terminates cleanly when I ^C
[04:59] <finch_> how can i apply after upgrede to ubuntu
[04:59] <finch_> 15.10
[05:03] <Osirez> finch_ http://www.linuxandubuntu.com/home/how-to-upgrade-from-ubuntu-15041410-to-ubuntu-1510-wily-werewolf
[05:28] <slumbaz> does anyone could help me to install buzztrax
[05:48] <ajmal> How I can add fonts in ubuntu?
[05:50] <Osirez> ajmal: Just download the .ttf or .otf in Ubuntu. Doublick the downloaded file. That should open the font viewer where you'll see an install button.
[05:52] <emitattuo> If there's a ton of fonts, can you still select them all, right click them in Nautilus, and click install?  (Or manually move them to /usr/share/fonts)?
[05:53] <ajmal> Osirez : thanks for the response. I will try it.
[05:53] <Osirez> ajmalL: No problem
[05:55] <Osirez> emitattuo: That should work yes in theory. Try just one and see if its added. If so then do the same with all the others.
[05:59] <OERIAS> Anyone here know how to change the cursor on Ubuntu 15.10?
[05:59] <OERIAS> I totally forgot how to do it.
[05:59] <OERIAS> I already installed the cursor
[06:06] <NR87z> Hi all anyone awake? Can anyone tell me what I would cloud use to take snapshots of one server and pump it on to another?
[06:06] <NR87z> I'm trying to create a production/staging environment at home
[06:10] <emitattuo> NR87z, rsync can be used for that.
[06:11] <dboy17> hi. fresh install of ubuntu 15.10 and sshfs no longer works. openssh-server is installed. but I get "sshfs connection reset by peer" although sshfs is installed on my clients machine.
[06:26] <ditch> hello
[06:29] <iqadmin> hello
[06:31] <bulldog> Hey
[06:31] <bulldog> ubottu
[06:55] <ezio> salve a tutti
[06:56] <OERIAS> Anyone here know how to change the cursor on Ubuntu 15.10?
[06:56] <OERIAS> I already installed the cursor
[06:56] <OERIAS> I already installed the cursor
[07:03] <VergilPrime> Where should I go to get help with sshfs?
[07:05] <Kartagis> VergilPrime: if it's ubuntu, here
[07:06] <mikubuntu> have a question about using databases with lubuntu, not sure if this is the place to ask. i try to open a large .txt file with abiword, or gnumeric or libreoffice, and it loads very sluggishly and takes forever to search -- is .txt the right type of file to use in these applications?
[07:07] <VergilPrime> Okay, so I'm mounting my server's user directory to my system at ~/mnt/server/
[07:07] <Kartagis> via samba?
[07:08] <VergilPrime> On both machines my user is the same (vergilprime)
[07:08] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, What is your application trying to do? What does this textfile have to do with databases?
[07:08] <VergilPrime> Idk what samba is, using sshfs command in terminal.
[07:08] <VergilPrime> The mount is successful but the file permissions are all wrong so I can't actually do anything with the mounted directory
[07:09] <VergilPrime> instead of "vergilprime" being the owner and group i see "501"
[07:09] <VergilPrime> and frankly this is a bit above my head :I
[07:10] <edisto> is it me or is the kernel 4.3 mainline amd64 bit version missing?
[07:10] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: the file is a list of names and addresses, and i want to be able to search it for individual entries. so i assume i want to have in like a spreadsheet configuration. i'm not familiar at all with using files like this.
[07:11] <flyingbutter> hello
[07:11] <flyingbutter> im l33t h4xxor
[07:11] <flyingbutter> i come 4 ur eye pees
[07:12] <VergilPrime> Should I try creating and adding myself to a "501" group? :I
[07:15] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: abiword has been loading for at least 5 minutes now and still not displaying the data from the file
[07:15] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, Yes, a spreadsheet or database would be better than a textfile. This will let you at least break things up into fields like first name, last name, street, city, etc ... if you are just searching through the textfile with regex, you'll have all kinds of problems.
[07:16] <mengazo> VergilPrime: 501 most likely represents the read, write, and execute permissions of your files. Make sure to check the owner, too. Enter "ls -la" to determine the owner
[07:16] <samssammerz> (for instance, the word "james" would match "James Connor", "711 St. James Ave", and "Jamestown, VA"
[07:16] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: so should the file have been provided to me in a different type than .txt?
[07:16] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: what are typical database file types?
[07:16] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Owner information is normally listed in the third column of that output from "ls -la"
[07:17] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, If the only thing you are doing is storing names/addresses/phone #'s etc and looking them up, then you just need a spreadsheet, not a database.
[07:17] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: i'm sure the office that provided the file probably uses windows
[07:18] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: so could i populate a linux spreadsheet using the .txt file that was provided to me?
[07:18] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: you are correct, i want to be able to sort by first name, last name, etc.
[07:19] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: abiword STILL 'loading,' i know this isn't supposed to work like this .. lol
[07:19] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, Yes, assuming that the entries in the file are in some kind of consistent format. Also, how large is the file?
[07:20] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Check out this, as well: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sshfs#Checklist. The last mentioned step should be helpful
[07:20] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, I mean, if you are dealing with some enormous # of entries (millions of names), then using an actual database might be warranted.
[07:20] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: this particular subfile is 138 mb
[07:21] <VergilPrime> thanks mengazo
[07:21] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: this subfile would be less than 800k entries i suppose
[07:21] <MoL0ToV> howto configure a linux domain? i want to save home directories on unique server and authenticate users with this server
[07:22] <mengazo> VergilPrime: And if the owner of those sshfs files are something other than what you're expecting, keep in mind that the "1" in "501" indicates what level of permission *other* users apart from the owner have over those files
[07:23] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, Ah, ok - that's still too big though for a spreadsheet. I would look into using MySQL or PostgreSQL.
[07:23] <mengazo> VergilPrime: The "1" means that other users can only execute, which means that other users can't read or write to those files
[07:23] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: where could i get some help with that?
[07:24] <hateball> MoL0ToV: Will the domain consist of only Linux machines or will you mix OS's ?
[07:24] <MoL0ToV> hateball: only linux
[07:24] <VergilPrime> even sudo ls -la tells me that the file perms are ?????????
[07:25] <mengazo> VergilPrime: You would need to change that "1" to a "6" for read and write permissions, or "7" for read, write, and execute permissions (use only for scripts, programs, and directories)
[07:25] <mengazo> hmm
[07:25] <hateball> MoL0ToV: I would setup OpenLDAP for auth, mount /home over NFS for client machines
[07:26] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, If you've never used MySQL before, I would start by using a search engine to find some tutorials on it. If you have further questions (after doing some reading), you can ask in #mysql
[07:26] <MoL0ToV> hateball, yellowpages is not best?
[07:26] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Go to the server that's hosting the SSH service and determine/fix the permissions from there
[07:27] <mengazo> VergilPrime: UNIX permissions are a bit tricky to learn at first. Here's a reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_system_permissions#Numeric_notation
[07:27] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: ok i'll see what i can figure out -- just looking at this page now: http://www.gfi.com/blog/top-10-free-database-tools-for-sys-admins/
[07:27] <VergilPrime> perms on the remote host show that I am owner :I
[07:28] <VergilPrime> I don't necessarily want to let anyone mess with these files, but I am their owner on both machines and I am not entirely sure how to get my machine to realize that.
[07:28] <hateball> MoL0ToV: Suppose it would do as well. Using openldap should let you be more flexible in case you need to introduce other OS or applications I think
[07:29] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, Honestly, the suggestions in that blog post are pretty terrible. I'd highly recommend looking into MySQL, PostgreSQL or some other actively developed project - you will get a lot more support, better documentation/tutorials, and less bugs.
[07:29] <hateball> MoL0ToV: http://www.ltsp.org/ has lots of good documentation about some of this stuff
[07:29] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, Also, just a heads up that there is going to be quite a bit of a learning curve to learn how to use a database, but once you learn the basics, it will be a skill that you can apply in many different areas.
[07:30] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: okey dokey then -- thx :P
[07:30] <samssammerz> mikubuntu, You're welcome. Good luck!
[07:30] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Do both the user you're logged in as on your client machine and the owner on the remote server have the same uid?
[07:31] <VergilPrime> I don't knowwwwww :3
[07:31] <VergilPrime> uid is a new thing to me.
[07:31] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Enter "id -u" to determine that on both machines
[07:31] <VergilPrime> uid on remote host is 501
[07:31] <VergilPrime> uid on my machine is 1000
[07:31] <treeprogram> the vertical line that signifies where the letter you type will appear - is it called a cursor?
[07:32] <mengazo> There's the problem, right there
[07:32] <VergilPrime> Is that fixable?
[07:32] <treeprogram> so like if I want to type in the middle of the paragraph, I click in the middle of the paragraph, and that vertical line appears there, and I can start typing in the middle of the paragraph. What is that vertical line called?
[07:32] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Absolutely. Though, it requires a few steps, but nothing too tedious
[07:32] <VergilPrime> treeprogram, cursor.
[07:33] <MoL0ToV> hateball, i don't want ltst or the complication of openldap, i think that use yellowpages is the more simple solution, here in my school exists only linux machines
[07:33] <treeprogram> VergilPrime: thanks. Isn't that also what the mouse pointer is called?
[07:33] <VergilPrime> Okay lemme google it first.
[07:33] <VergilPrime> treeprogram, yes it is.
[07:33] <hateball> MoL0ToV: well then you already have your mind made up :)
[07:33] <hateball> MoL0ToV: I was only suggesting ltsp for their docs on how to set up NFS et al, not using it as a whole
[07:34] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Let me fetch some documentation
[07:34] <MoL0ToV> someone know if is possible to use yp with dynamic assigned ip address on clients?
[07:35] <VergilPrime> Ive got some mengazo
[07:35] <VergilPrime> but feel free
[07:35] <VergilPrime> I'm an idiot
[07:36] <mengazo> VergilPrime: We all have our moments, dude. If you're relatively new to the *nix world, we all have to start somewhere :)
[07:38] <mengazo> VergilPrime: Just make sure the uid and gid (group id) of both client and server users match, and you change the owner (uid and gid) on all files you currently own
[07:39] <mikubuntu> samssammerz: do you know why i might be getting a 'can't send to channel' msg from #mysql ??
[07:40] <hateball> !register | mikubuntu
[07:41] <mengazo> VergilPrime: usermod -u UID username
[07:41] <mengazo> VergilPrime: usermod -g GID username
[07:41] <mengazo> the group id (gid) is normally the same as the uid
[07:42] <wbill> im on ubuntu 14.04 and i forgot my passwd im in recovery mode at root, what do i do if it won't let me change the passwd gives me an authentication error
[07:42] <wbill> i checked the passwd file it definately has my id listed
[07:44] <mengazo> VergilPrime: find / -uid OLD_UID | xargs chown username
[07:44] <wbill> authentication token manipulation error
[07:44] <mengazo> VergilPrime: find / -gid OLD_GID | xargs chgrp username
 authentication token manipulation error
[07:44] <wbill> im doing a :  tb passwd
 VergilPrime: find / -gid OLD_GID | xargs chgrp username
 im doing a :  tb passwd
[07:47] <wbill> anyone?
[07:48] <yousertc> wbill> anyone?
[07:50] <VergilPrime> Wish me luck! :D
[07:51] <wbill> yousertc >wbill > eatme...  > /dev/null
[07:51] <mengazo> wbill: Is it possible to chroot into your system from a live CD and change the password using "passwd"?
[07:52] <yousertc> VergilPrime> Wish me luck! :D
[07:52] <mengazo> yousertc: Go away
[07:52] <wbill> for whatever reason live cds dont load properly or usb stick for that amatter
[07:52] <wbill> live usb sticks'
[07:52] <yousertc> wbill> yousertc >wbill > eatme...  > /dev/null
[07:52] <wbill> is yousertc a troll???
[07:53] <yousertc> mengazo> wbill: Is it possible to chroot into your system from a live CD and change the password using "passwd"?
[07:53] <mengazo> yousertc needs the banhammer pronto
[07:55] <iBurley> Anybody know if it's safe to install proprietary AMD graphics drivers through the GUI tool on 15.10 yet?
[07:55] <yousertc> Ops! mengazo
[07:56] <yousertc> iBurley: don't know
[07:56] <mengazo> wbill: This article is a bit dated, but it's still relevant: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/reset-your-ubuntu-password-easily-from-the-live-cd/
[07:57] <mengazo> wbill: I'm should be possible to accomplish from another distro and not just Ubuntu
[07:57] <mengazo> wbill: *That should
[08:00] <rtibutfcv> Yep
[08:09] <nipsing> hi
[08:09] <vak> hi all
[08:11] <nipsing> 你好
[08:12] <vak> my ubuntu 15.10 still has many packages that I have installed from Ubuntus 12.*,  13.*, 14.* and some packages are not updated using 15.10 repo! how to force the update for all such packages?
[08:12] <nipsing> reinstall 15.10
[08:13] <vak> nipsing: what for?
[08:13] <vak> example: http://pastebin.com/XSW1QtCA
[08:14] <nipsing> vak, simple to solve all problems
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> vak: not all packages from older versions will still exist on 15.10 either
[08:16] <vak> lotuspsychje: take a look at example
[08:16] <vak> vagrant installed is 1.5 whereas 1.7 is available
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> vak: sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade?
[08:18] <vak> lotuspsychje: done of course
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> vak: wich ubuntu version did you have before 15.10?
[08:18] <vak> 15.04
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> !info vagrant vivid
[08:18] <vak> you see
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> vak: doesnt got your version from your paste weird
[08:19] <vak> vagrant was even in vivid of version 1.6 already
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> vak: wich version you had before vivid?
[08:19] <vak> probably 1.5 that i am still having.
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> vak: ubuntu version sorry
[08:19] <Steve_Jobs> Hi all
[08:20] <vak> and vagrant is just *one* example.
[08:20] <Dumle29> Anyone had any luck with office 365 in ubuntu?
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> Dumle29: there are unity webapps for office 365
[08:20] <Dumle29> I'd like to swap my laptop to linux, but the SSD is too small for dual booting, so I'd like my programs to work :)
[08:20] <vak> lotuspsychje: oh, i did distro upgrades each half-year since 12.04, i guess.
[08:20] <Dumle29> lotuspsychje: I don't use unity, I use gnome :/
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> Dumle29: ask the #ubuntu-gnome guys perhaps if the know
[08:21] <iBurley> Anybody know if it's safe to install proprietary AMD graphics drivers through the GUI tool on 15.10 yet?
[08:21] <Dumle29> will do,thanks :)
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> !info vagrant precise
[08:21] <vak> lotuspsychje: so, abuot 6 distro upgrades
[08:21] <lotuspsychje> vak: did you install packages manual instead of official repos?
[08:22] <vak> lotuspsychje: could be
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> vak: you get errors when sudo apt-get upgrade?
[08:22] <vak> lotuspsychje: nope.
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> vak: what does it do?
[08:23] <vak> lotuspsychje: what 'it' ? vagrant? it's not relevant now. I have about 100 packages of this sort after many years
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> vak: i need to know what happened to your system, as i cant find that version from your paste
[08:25] <vak> lotuspsychje: my current distro version is 15.10
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> vak: yes you already said
[08:25] <lotuspsychje> vak: got ppa's installed?
[08:27] <vak> lotuspsychje: maybe it was installed from ppa. but apt-cache sees clearly that there are newer alternatives, but they are marked of a low priority or something like this and not respected therefore during 'apt-get upgrade"
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> vak: listen mate, if you mix manual packages, ppa's, with official versions your system gets a mess after a while...best to clean install once
[08:28] <vak> lotuspsychje: fresh install isn't the option now
[08:29] <vak> that's why i am here asking...
[08:29] <lotuspsychje> vak: if you had installed everything officially, it would have cleaned up correctly and upgrade to latest
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> vak: try remove/purge the old versions and reinstall new ones
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> vak: and remove all ppa's from your system
[08:31] <vak> lotuspsychje: i cleared the ppa entries already
[08:32] <vak> lotuspsychje: but now idea how to fix the false repo/version priorities mentioned in pastebin above
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> vak: they way i would do this, is make a list of your packages with aptoncd and clean install 15.10 again
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> vak: no sorry, your system should be doing this automaticly
[08:34] <vak> lotuspsychje: i see them quite well in Ubuntu Software Center --> Installed --> Unknown
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> vak: try a manual purge of vagrant and then reinstall the wily version
[08:35] <vak> lotuspsychje: pretty sure it will work. but what about other 100+ packages that sticked over the years here?
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> vak: all do them manually
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> vak: or make the list with aptoncd, then purge all old versions and reinstall with aptoncd
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> vak: what happens when you install a new package?
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> iBurley: does the xorg driver not work for you properly?
[08:38] <vak> lotuspsychje: just tried: got a new version as expected.
[08:38] <vak> unpleasant
[08:38] <vak> (((
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> vak: after the next 9months, you might experience the same issues over
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> vak: i would clean install
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> vak: making backups is always a good idea, also on your favorite packages
[08:40] <vak> lotuspsychje: i have enough machines where clean install is not an option. I'd better learn the way to fix such an issue
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> vak: i think mixing manual install with official version will always get you in trouble
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> vak: better start the right way from the start right
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> to avoid situations
[08:42] <pierre__> Hi guys, I never compiled and installed a C++ program on ubuntu yet but now I need to install one and I get errors.. it says C compiler cannot create executables and the config.log is all chinese for me. Can anyone refer me to any kind of help page on this kind of trouble ?
[08:43] <Sachiru> Literally chinese?
[08:43] <pierre__> lol Sachiru !
[08:43] <pierre__> pretty much!
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> !compile | pierre__
[08:44] <Sachiru> As in it spits out chinese characters?
[08:44] <Sachiru> Or are they English, and you just don't understand them?
[08:45] <pierre__> !packages
[08:47] <shredding> I have an upstart script like this and somehow the number of daemons increases over time until my machine runs out of memory: https://dpaste.de/iPNa
[08:47] <shredding> however, only one of them has this 'bash -c' prefix in ps aux
[08:47] <shredding> does that mean that they are initialised somewhere else?
[08:47] <super_> Hello
[08:48] <pierre__> !checkinstall
[08:48] <VergilPrime> :D
[08:48] <super_> exit
[08:49] <shredding> pierre__: That's for me?
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> !msgthebot | pierre__
[08:49] <VergilPrime> I lived mengazo
[08:50] <deysaika195> Hello
[08:50] <VergilPrime> Hey
[08:50] <lotuspsychje> vak: try the apt-get clean and such: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGet/Howto
[08:59] <Unhammer> anyone know how to change the icon of an instance of a program shown in xfce's alt-tab? (I always have several instances of "sakura" running, and they all have the same icon in alt-tab)
[09:00] <Unhammer> thought 'wmctrl -I' would do it, but no luck
[09:05] <tuor> hi, (using Ubuntu 14.04) I have formated my SD-Card with nautilus and now mounted. When I try to copy something on it or just create an empty file, i get the error: "The destination is read-only."
[09:06] <tuor> The line of mount is: /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /media/tuor/32GB 01 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
[09:06] <tuor> It looks liek mounted rw for me. So what can be the Problem, that I can't write on it?
[09:07] <wbill> anyone know what baf-2.index is in ubuntu
[09:07] <wbill> bamf-2.index
[09:07] <wbill> under /usr/share/applications
[09:07] <tuor> When I open nautilus as root I can write to it.
[09:08] <wbill> and has anyone got skypw to install on  14.04
[09:08] <wbill> skype
[09:08] <Kartagis> wbill: yeah, why?
[09:09] <wbill> how did you do it not sure why im having issues installin g skype it being a .deb package and all
[09:09] <wbill> or is there a version i need to download from somewhere other than thew skype website
[09:09] <Kartagis> I've just downloaded and issued dpkg -i, that's all
[09:10] <Kartagis> download the multi arch for 12.04
[09:10] <wbill> how do you invoke it
[09:10] <Kartagis> invoke what?
[09:11] <wbill> skype
[09:11] <Kartagis> from the menu
[09:12] <wbill> ah what menu
[09:12] <kashyap1113> is there any script to automate canon printer driver installation?
[09:12] <Kartagis> wbill: the OS menu
[09:12] <wbill> it says it is in /usr/bin/skype
[09:13] <Kartagis> it creates a menu item
[09:13] <wbill> ou mean unity
[09:15] <Kartagis> in my case, cairo-dock, but aye
[09:15] <Gnomethrower> Hi there
[09:15] <Gnomethrower> does anyone know of a utility like tar that archives things with deduplication?
[09:16] <kashyap1113> what do you mean by duplication?
[09:17] <bhuddah> you mean compression?
[09:17] <wbill>  ok dumb ? what does apt-get install -f do?
[09:18] <kashyap1113> @wbill it will try to install missing dependencies from repository
[09:18] <wbill> dohh, it been doing it for like 2 hours now kricky
[09:19] <kashyap1113> wbill : your connection might be slow
[09:21] <wbill> 80 mbps down and 10 up and i hav elike 0 services running weras i usually have a radio station for my podcast out of her and no issues can download a 1 GB file in like 2 minutes
[09:21] <wbill> just a flood of dep installs my screen is screaming
[09:22] <kashyap1113> Oh man 80 mbps down....You must be feeling like in heaven
[09:23] <wbill> ok finally it installed skype or it installed the deps needed ty for the help
[09:24] <developer> hi
[09:25] <developer> anyone here?
[09:25] <kashyap1113> yes
[09:25] <kashyap1113> hi
[09:25] <nunya> there has GOT to be something better than SKYPE
[09:26] <SCHAAP137> there is
[09:26] <samssammerz> tox
[09:26] <samssammerz> nunya, ^
[09:27] <SCHAAP137> it's called: IRC
[09:27] <nunya> linphone
[09:27] <Kira9204> irc isnt great for calls xD
[09:27] <SCHAAP137> hmm true
[09:27] <SCHAAP137> Google Hangouts works well imho
[09:27] <Kira9204> i'd second Google Hangounts
[09:28] <Kira9204> it works really well
[09:28] <samssammerz> nunya, Tox is a p2p VOIP client that does not include spyware
[09:28] <Kira9204> and has good quality
[09:28] <samssammerz> Google Hangouts, like Skype, is corporate spyware. Google is known to share information with third parties, such as the FBI, and cannot be trusted with your private data.
[09:29] <Kira9204> samssammerz: newsflash, ALL corporations store information about you
[09:29] <samssammerz> Kira9204, Yes, which is why you should use a P2P VOIP application such as Tox that is not run by a large corporation.
[09:29] <nunya> oh crap HANGOUTS duh...kicks SKYPE's arse
[09:30] <MonkeyDust> samssammerz  sure you're not from NSA?
[09:30] <nunya> I'll check out TOX
[09:30] <kashyap1113> Does Tox encrypt the data?
[09:30] <samssammerz> kashyap1113, yes
[09:30] <kashyap1113> good
[09:31] <nunya> Hey yeah of yer from the NSA then you HAVE to tell us...it's the law
[09:31] <samssammerz> Yes, it is good. And unlike Skype and Google Hangouts, there is nobody that is holding your encryption keys (so they can't do this: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/11/microsoft-nsa-collaboration-user-data)
[09:32] <MonkeyDust> ok guys, take discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic, keep this channel clear for support
[09:33] <nunya> damn that microsoft {synonym for flacid}
[09:35] <nunya> I was hoping for some assistance with WINE. Seems like most things don't work. Is there a better 'frontend' than PlayItOnLinux?
[09:37] <MonkeyDust> !wine | nunya
[09:38] <samssammerz> nunya, In the rare case that I'm forced to use Windows software, I generally find it easier to just run a pirated copy of Windows in a Virtual Machine.
[09:38] <Dylan____> Hello guys I'm trying to install my b43 driver
[09:39] <nunya> mostly just want it for games
[09:39] <Dylan____> Someone in the forums told me to install b43.zip
[09:39] <akik> samssammerz: no warez here
[09:39] <Dylan____> After doing what the forum mod told me to do
[09:39] <Dylan____> Nothing happened no wifi
[09:39] <Dylan____> And I feel like I'm stuck
[09:39] <Dylan____> I'm tried mod probe nothing happened
[09:39] <Dylan____> I extracted b43.zip
[09:39] <Dylan____> And used these commands
[09:39] <Dylan____> And like people were saying oh it worked etc
[09:40] <Dylan____> Well I feel like I'm been screwed over
[09:40] <MonkeyDust> Dylan____  spare the enter key
[09:40] <Dylan____> So could you help me??
[09:40] <Dylan____> :/
[09:40] <nunya> b43 driver?
[09:40] <Dylan____> I downloaded it off someone's other forum post
[09:41] <Dylan____> They said it would help with my driver or something
[09:41] <samssammerz> akik, Wow hearing the word "warez" takes me back a couple of decades, to my parents basement, searching for a free copy of doom 2 ... but yes, I'll avoid suggesting downloading software for free with bittorrent here.
[09:41] <MonkeyDust> Dylan____  don't trust and download everything from any random site
[09:41] <Dylan____> It wasn't a random site
[09:41] <Dylan____> It was clearly marked Ubuntu
[09:41] <samssammerz> nunya, Broadcom 43
[09:41] <Dylan____> Forums
[09:41] <Dylan____> So it was legit
[09:42] <Dylan____> I have a Broadcom 4322
[09:42] <Dylan____> And it shows up as Broadcom airport extremes but it just doesn't allow me anything
[09:42] <Dylan____> Search google type in this forum post
[09:42] <nunya> Dylan: Which Ubuntu? 14.04?
[09:43] <Dylan____> Yeah
[09:43] <Dylan____> On my MacBook 2010
[09:44] <nunya> what piece of hardware is needing the driver?
[09:44] <Dylan____> Wifi
[09:44] <Dylan____> I need this for the wifi
[09:44] <nunya> hmm
[09:44] <Dylan____> Yeah
[09:44] <Dylan____> :(
[09:45] <Dylan____> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2098717 this is a forum post that the guy had b43.zip
[09:46] <Dylan____> This is my post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2300751
[09:47] <afidegnum> good morning all,
[09:47] <nunya> did you use terminal for lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network
[09:47] <afidegnum> hello, I am developing a GUI application and I am having permission denied on /dev/input/event7          i did chmod 777 to /dev/input/event7 and I am having "Operation not permitted" error  how can i make it available to other apps and utilities?
[09:47] <Dylan____> I didn't use that I used
[09:48] <Dylan____> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2300751
[09:48] <Dylan____> Scroll to bottom
[09:48] <nunya> lspci -vvnn | grep -A 9 Network   will identify your broadcom
[09:48] <Dylan____> And see that lspci
[09:48] <Dylan____> That's what I was told to use
[09:48] <Dylan____> And it came up with the number
[09:48] <Dylan____> It's by Hadath
[09:48] <Dylan____> Hadaka
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> afidegnum  there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[09:49] <afidegnum> ok
[09:49] <afidegnum> thanks,
[09:50] <nunya> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx -- Dylan
[09:51] <Dylan____> Is that gonna help me??
[09:51] <Dylan____> Because when I load the additional drivers
[09:51] <Dylan____> It says sta Linux
[09:52] <Dylan____> So I don't know what I'm doing
[09:52] <Dylan____> I'm been told something from someone else followed that
[09:52] <Dylan____> And it doesn't do anything
[09:53] <Dylan____> And also I can't install the propitery drivers for the sta other wise it crashes my Ubuntu
[09:53] <Dylan____> Because it says can't mount cd dvd etc
[09:53] <Dylan____> I don't have long so can you walk me through what I need to download??
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> Dylan____  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:55] <Unhammer> to answer my own question, https://gist.github.com/unhammer/cfa9cd907adcdf391290 lets you change icons of running programs
[09:56] <Dylan____> What do I click on monkey dust
[09:56] <Dylan____> When I'm on that link
[09:57] <Dylan____> By the way I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 not some stupid version before??
[09:59] <pl> Hi. I know my question is specific but I'll try anyway. I upgraded a thinkpad x250 from 15.04 to 15.10, it went fine, but now the system often freezes completely (does not even reply to pings). A hard reboot is needed. This happens quite often. Do you know what issue could it be?
[10:00] <samssammerz> pl, when does it freeze? at boot? or random times during use?
[10:01] <Seveas> pl: smells like kernel or driver issues. Are you using the normal ubuntu kernel? Any binary drivers (amd, nvidia...) in use?
[10:01] <pl> samssammerz, at random times during use, while doing nothing special
[10:01] <samssammerz> pl, Have you checked your log files (dmesg, etc) for clues as to what might be causing it?
[10:01] <pl> Seveas, no proprietary stuff, the laptop is almost 100% intel hardware
[10:02] <pl> samssammerz, as it freezes completely I can't use dmesg :(
[10:02] <Seveas> pl: noting in /var/log/syslog either after reboot?
[10:02] <pl> I have to check
[10:03] <Seveas> maybe make a cronjob that saves dmesg output every minute. There could be symptoms showing up just before the hang
[10:03] <samssammerz> pl, You can check after reboot, before it freezes.
[10:04] <pl> Thanks, I will check the logs
[10:04] <pl> If I want to try an older kernel in 15.10, is there an easy way to install it from the official repository?
[10:04] <samssammerz> pl, And in the worse case, if you can't boot up long enough to do that, you can boot into a liveCD, mount the root partition and just look at the log files that way.
[10:05] <pl> samssammerz, it normally lasts enough time, even one hour or so
[10:07] <Seveas> pl: you can add the 15.04 repos to sources.list and apt-get install linux-image-$old_version
[10:07] <pl> Do you think it's fine if I download linux-image-3.19.0-15-generic from the Vivid archives and install it (dpkg -i) ?
[10:07] <pl> I really don't want to mix the packages
[10:08] <Seveas> you'll need more than linux-image-* probably (linux-image-extra, linux-headers)
[10:08] <Seveas> but it should be fine to install with dpkg after manual downloading
[10:08] <pl> well, thanks
[10:08] <samssammerz> pl, It might be OK, but installing an older kernel version could also cause problems if there are any currently installed packages that depend on the current kernel version. I would suggest trying to look at the log files and fix the problems with the current kernel, rather than downgrading.
[10:09] <Seveas> samssammerz: that's very rare though, the only time that was really a problem was in the younger days of udev
[10:09] <pl> samssammerz, I agree, but in the meantime I really need to have the laptop working...
[10:10] <pl> Even if it's fixed in linux 4.3, it will take a while to get it
[10:10] <samssammerz> Seveas, Indeed, it would probably be OK. But it would also be untested, so who knows? ... and in the meantime, it would just be better to fix the problem, which is probably a really simple issue with drivers
[10:10] <samssammerz> pl, It might be something really simple. Take a moment to look at the logs, see if it's something easy before downgrading.
[10:11] <pl> will do, samssammerz
[10:11] <pl> but I'm not so sure it's a trivial issue, after all it worked fine with ubuntu 15.04, so it's probably a regression that needs to be fixed upstream
[10:12] <samssammerz> pl, Perhaps. But after looking at the logs (which will take a couple of minutes), you might discover that it's a known bug with a known solution.
[10:13] <pl> samssammerz, I can't do it now, I don't have that laptop with me right now, but for sure I'll check later today
[10:13] <pl> thanks
[10:13] <dionysus69> hello all can you explain me how this works? I have a boot menu at startup with debian windows loader and hard drive name, if I select debian i get a grub menu as expected, if I push windows lodaer, I get windows and if I push hard drive I get windows, why does hard drive default to windows bootloader instead of grub? I just have 1 efi partition with all those records inside it.
[10:14] <MonkeyDust> dionysus69  this is ubuntu, not debian
[10:16] <cfhowlett> !debian | dionysus69
[10:16] <dionysus69> ugh I know but its same
[10:16] <dionysus69> I actually have ubuntu too
[10:17] <cfhowlett> dionysus69, somehow, I doubt that ... and it's NOT the same.  ask #debian.
[10:17] <dionysus69> grub is same but ok you dont have to answer lmfo
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> dionysus69  type /j #debian
[10:18] <samssammerz> dionysus69, They are not the same. Ubuntu is a buggy, bloated bastardization of Debian. But it's OK, because Ubuntu has the latest and gr8est softiez ...
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> dionysus69  then ask for ubuntu support in the debian channel (meh)
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> samssammerz  watch it now
[10:19]  * samssammerz grovels
[10:19] <dionysus69> ubuntu channel is more active thats the reason I am asking it here. my question would still be same if I were asking about fedora or whatever
[10:20] <MonkeyDust> dionysus69  ##linux for general linux questions, this channel is ubuntu dedicated
[10:34] <wbill> ok anoder ? anyone have any issues with skype doing video calls or the configuration thereof i ubuntu 14.04.3
[10:34] <wbill> i wanna see who im talking 2 as scary as that sounds..lol
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> wbill  find 'video' on this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> ctrl-f
[10:42] <huwjr> fstab setup, rebooted and 1 of several mounts is not mounting? run mount manually and it works as expected? any ideas?
[10:56] <quantalrabbit> This question might be beyond the scope of this channel....  I am trying to install the latest kernel 4.3 from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds on ubuntu precise 12.04 but am getting an error saying that dependency kmod is missing.  Latest I'm able to install is kernel 4.0.8.
[10:57] <quantalrabbit> The mainline builds i'm trying are actually on this page: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[10:58] <Seveas> quantalrabbit: that's not entirely surprising, you're installing a kernel that's 3 years newer than your userland.
[10:59] <quantalrabbit> Seveas: I guess I should have expected this would happen...
[10:59] <Seveas> quantalrabbit: you might be able to install it when manually compiling, but those packages are not meant for 12.04
[11:00] <quantalrabbit> quantalrabbit: i see.  that might too much trouble in the long run.  was hoping that ubuntu 12.04 could have support for skylake goodness.
[11:01] <auronandace|work> quantalrabbit: have you considered moving to 14.04, that is also lts?
[11:03] <quantalrabbit> Seveas: i'm losing it.. talking to myself.  haha
[11:04] <Seveas> quantalrabbit: that's ok, I've seen much worse in here :D
[11:18] <czerasz> I'm using Ubuntu 15.04 with an encrypt hard drive. Since the few latest kernel updates I can't enter my paraphrase when the system boots. It looks like the cursor is not in the input box. The last kerner which works for me is: 3.19.0-26-generic. Has anyone experienced this issue?
[11:18] <czerasz> I'm using Ubuntu 15.04 with an encrypted hard drive. Since the few latest kernel updates I can't enter my paraphrase when the system boots. It looks like the cursor is not in the input box. The last kerner which works for me is: 3.19.0-26-generic. Has anyone experienced this issue?
[11:21] <Seveas> czerasz: I've been using ubuntu with encrypted harddisk and have never seen that. Try hitting [ESC], you'll be dropped in a text console  and should be able to enter your password there.
[11:23] <ikonia> Seveas: I've seen that situation on poor supported fake raid controllers, it looks like some of the updates broke some frake raid controllers
[11:24] <czerasz> I'm using a Dell Inspiron-7548...
[11:29] <wam> Hi, since the upgrade to wily, I see empty squares instead of letters for the font ubuntu regular italic (and only italic). This font is used for example in pidgin or even in gnome preferences. Any idea, why regular works but only italic is dead? Should I just find the package and reinstall the italic font?
[11:29] <nikolam> I get terribly slow btrfs send | pv > /dev/null , in range of Kbytes/s
[11:30] <nikolam> And it is fom SSD, when Copying files to another magnetic HD, it copies 200Mb/s it says..
[11:30] <wam> ok never mind
[11:33] <nikolam> DOES btrfs snapshot of root (@) , snapshots also @/home by default maybe??
[11:36] <ikonia> nikolam: it does anything that hangs off the root file system on that same volume
[11:36] <ikonia> if it's on a different volume, then no
[11:38] <nikolam> ikonia, well default install on ubuntu is at "@" subvolume" and /home is at "@home" volume  so I suppose it does not
[11:38] <ikonia> nikolam: I'd assume no then
[11:38] <nikolam> But it something else hangs on root file systema nd it is another volume?
[11:39] <redoral> heeeeey
[11:39] <nikolam> I made more volumes, for other disks and share volum
[11:39] <ikonia> nikolam: can you pastebin the output of "mount" and "df -h" in a pastebin, lets see what it looks like
[11:40] <nikolam> ikonia, http://pastebin.com/5bPsa56M let me clean some snapshot and files, I was thinking just to ask the defaults, thanks.
[11:42] <ikonia> nikolam: that looks to me like it will take home as home and / are on the same volume
[11:43] <nikolam> ikonia, they are on differend subvolumes I presume?
[11:43] <nikolam> so when it does snapshot one subvolume (root) it does not snapshto also /home too?
[11:43] <nikolam> I expect it like that?
[11:50] <JessicaJung_> hi guys, if you install a kernel, will it replace the existing kernel you use in your system?
[11:51] <nikolam> ikonia, seems like btrfs-tools are at 3.12-1 version in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and kernel is at 3.19.0-31
[11:51] <k1l_> JessicaJung_: you can only boot one kernel at a time. you can choose in grub with wich kernel you want to boot
[11:51] <nikolam> Could be Ubuntu problem with not upgraded tools in LTS release, for production ?
[11:51] <ikonia> nikolam: it's hard to be clear on, the docs are not solid, I'd assume it does te subvolume named root only
[11:52] <ikonia> but from looking at the top level volume, it should do the whole lot
[11:53] <nikolam> ikonia, I actually had issue with btrfs send  is very slow , that is where question of maybe not upgraded btrfs-tools in LTS arised
[11:53] <JessicaJung_> k1 l_: does it like, delete the existing kernel or you have to manually delete it, I'm running 14.04 LTS and I just downloaded the werewolf kernel
[11:54] <k1l_> JessicaJung_: no, it doesnt delete the old one. like i said the new one will added to the list in grub. there you can decide what kernel to boot
[11:55] <nikolam> ikonia, I got question: "Are you using the 3.13 kernel and 3.12 btrfs-progs?" So obviously Ubuntu did not update btrfs-tools when updating kernel... (!)
[11:55] <nikolam> kernel is on 3.19.0-31 on LTS now
[11:56] <JessicaJung_> k1 l_: oh thanks, lemme try that once the LibSSL quiets down
[11:57] <smartass> hi, do cgroups balance memory even if I don't set soft_limit_in_bytes ? 14.04.1 here
[12:02] <JessicaJung_> smartass: I think it groups the pages, IMO, I'm not really sure
[12:03] <JessicaJung_> smartass: you could ask the devs on how it works
[12:06] <kzar> Any idea why there's no amd64 mainline build for 4.3? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.3-unstable/
[12:07] <k1l_> kzar: maybe the build failed
[12:08] <lotuspsychje> vak: got any further with your issue?
[12:08] <nikolam> ikonia, seems like problem with slow btrfs send had something to do with btrfs itself. It seems like running very fast, now I deleted older snapshot of a subvolume using disk space and mare new read-only subvolume to do btrfs send. Now it flies...
[12:08] <Zarus> Hey i got a hybrid graphic card on my laptop when i install fglrx, the login loops what can i do
[12:08] <smartass> JessicaJung_: thank you, which devs would it be?
[12:09] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: did you test radeon driver (xorg)?
[12:09] <Zarus> i had xorg but then i was not using my card with a gpu
[12:09] <JessicaJung_> smartass: I guess the cgroups devs could help you out
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: wich ubuntu version?
[12:10] <Zarus> 14.04 lts
[12:10] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: radeon should work fine, anything unusual in your logs about it?
[12:11] <Zarus> dont know what you mean
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: syslog and dmesg
[12:11] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: they might hold errors about the radeon driver
[12:13] <smartass> JessicaJung_: ok, would you have ny suggestions as to how to contact them? a mailing list or some IRC channel?
[12:14] <vak> lotuspsychje: corrected about 50 pkgs manually in 20 min. postponed the rest
[12:14] <lotuspsychje> vak: cool :p
[12:15] <JessicaJung_> as of now, smartass, you could ask around the devs of ubuntu via mailing list but wait for someone to turn up with a knowledge of cgroups
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: /var/log/syslog example or the log viewer icon
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: have you installed ubuntu with internet enabled + updates during setup?
[12:18] <Zarus> yup
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: what kind of card did you have ( sudo lshw -C video )
[12:19] <Zarus> radeon 4200/5650
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: it was clean install or upgrade from a previous ubuntu?
[12:21] <omen> btw. just to be curious: anyone had any problems with Ubuntu 15.04 and AMD R9 290?
[12:21] <Zarus> i removed gfglrx from termian that helped but the computer is lagging, clean install dint like win10, so i tried ubuntu :)
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> Zarus: ok great, if you can pastebin your syslog ill take a look at it
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> omen: best to ask your specific issue to the channel mate
[12:23] <omen> I don't have any, I'm just preparing. I have 290 and ubuntu 15.04 with no problems.
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> omen: preparing for what?
[12:23] <omen> for worst
[12:25] <Zarus> lotuspsychje: give me a min
[12:26] <tomhardy> i'm trying to connnect to a shared folder from osx.  when i try to connect as a user it says "there was a problem connecting to the sever "blabla"
[12:27] <ikonia> "blah blah" doesn't help
[12:27] <tomhardy> when i try and connect as guest, it says the operation can't be completed because the original item "share" can't be found
[12:27] <tomhardy> blabla is the name of the server
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:28] <hjjg> hi!
[12:28] <tomhardy> so any idea on how to debug the issue?
[12:28] <gulzar> what is a good partiton schema for ubuntu14.04 server edition on a 1TB HDD?
[12:28] <hjjg> is it possible to downgrade zfs-on-linux to a specific version?
[12:28] <omen> ex4?
[12:28] <omen> partion schema, i have no idea
[12:29] <gulzar> omen: the size of /, /home/ boot etc
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> !zfs | hjjg
[12:30] <ikonia> tomhardy: what technology are you using to share the folder on ubuntu
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> gulzar: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might help with that?
[12:30] <omen> ikonia: magic
[12:30] <tomhardy> ikonia, right click, share folder
[12:30] <ikonia> omen: be helpful - or be quiet
[12:30] <ikonia> tomhardy: ok, samba then
[12:31] <omen> :(
[12:31] <gulzar> lotuspsychje: ok
[12:31] <ikonia> tomhardy: so you need to verify that the mac can talk to the ubuntu machine using the samba/cifs client
[12:31] <ikonia> that would be the starting point
[12:31] <Seveas> gulzar: tiny boot and the rest an lvm pv. Create a small-ish volume (50GB) for the root filesystem and separate volumes for each application you put on it and its data
[12:32] <hjjg> lotuspsychje: thanks for the Link. I've seen this article already - I don't see how this answers my question.
[12:32] <tomhardy> ikonia: yeah ok.. trying to find the client
[12:33] <tomhardy> mount_smbfs: server connection failed: Operation timed out << that's what i get when i try to mount it
[12:33] <ikonia> tomhardy: so that suggests either a.) the samba server is not running on ubuntu b.) a firewall/something is blocking it, c.) you're talking to the wrong machine
[12:33] <hjjg> lotuspsychje: but thank you for the message to gulzar. I'll ask that same question in #ubuntu-server, because, in my case, it is server related.
[12:34] <tomhardy> ikonia: hmm, i wonder if i can mount via ssh
[12:34] <lotuspsychje> hjjg: ok i hope youl find your answer
[12:34] <ikonia> tomhardy: that is a different technology
[12:35] <tomhardy> the problem is i have never been  able to get osx <-> windows <-> ubuntu to actually talk to each other, even with a clean install of ubuntu
[12:35] <Skubb> Hey, has anyone attempted to extend their home partition with LVM/LUKS after cloning to a larger drive?
[12:35] <ikonia> tomhardy: I do it all the time without issue
[12:35] <ikonia> Skubb: yes,
[12:35] <ArchNoob> hello here, how can i know my monitor driver description?
[12:35] <tomhardy> it's odd. i thought it would be right click, share folder.. then connect from the other machines
[12:36] <tomhardy> ubuntu <-> ubuntu works fine
[12:36] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:36] <Skubb> I seem to be missing something, I cant find out how to expand my home to take up the extra space
[12:36] <ArchNoob> BluesKaj: Hello there!
[12:37] <Skubb> All documentation points to fresh installs but my set-up has remained unchanged since 2013 with Ubuntu 12-10
[12:37] <BluesKaj> hi ArchNoob
[12:37] <ikonia> Skubb: extend the logical volume
[12:38] <Skubb> I have extended the logical volume however my home still reported 233 GB instead of 480 GB
[12:39] <ikonia> Skubb: exten the logical volume then
[12:39] <nikolam> Skubb, you can use btrfs and do it all at that level
[12:39] <Skubb> Im using Ext4 and do not want to change FS or have a fresh install
[12:39] <frostschutz> Skubb, did you grow the filesystem after making the volume larger? resize2fs
[12:40] <nikolam> migrating from ext4 to btrfs is easy an dyou won't need LVm anymore, because it is integrated
[12:40] <crlcan81> I know this is likely not the place for questions specific to a program that is available on other things besides Ubuntu but I've not really found any irc support for this program in particular, and have already attempted to send emails to the people who run this particular audio stream am still awaiting an answer. I wish to play a local college station's web based audio stream using another program then what is 'default' for such things, and
[12:40] <crlcan81> can't seem to get it to 'save' instead of download and launch using chrome, and when it loads using VLC it doesn't tell me anything at all about the stream so I can use the same data to open it using the program I want to try and use.
[12:40] <Bernzel> Anyone got a suggestion on what to do if I don't have enough room on my ssd to update the given updates from Software Updater? I've already removed as much as I can. Should I just ignore them?
[12:40] <Skubb> I did; I used the default set-up Ubuntu 12-10 which automated the process for LVM/LUKS
[12:41] <cfhowlett> Bernzel, sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoclean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> !paste > zarus like this
[12:41] <nikolam> ext4 is stupid because doesn't have snapshots, send, checksums, raid..
[12:41] <Skubb> I dont want to change to btrfs, I want to know how to update home with the additional space
[12:41] <nikolam> ok sorry Skubb
[12:41] <crlcan81> I'm using 14.04 LTS Ubuntu, not sure exact version at the moment but I can find out, and I am not using Unity either, but attempt to use as close to default on programs that I can while allowing me to customize the setup to my needs.
[12:41] <Bernzel> cfhowlett, I've done that. Still not near enough room :/
[12:42] <frostschutz> Skubb, needs more info then... df -h /home/your/name/ should display the device and filesystem size; blockdev --getsize64 /dev/device should give you the device size; result?
[12:42] <cfhowlett> !home | Bernzel make a /home reinstall lubuntu over existing ubuntu.
[12:43] <Skubb> $ df -h
[12:43] <Skubb> Filesystem                  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[12:43] <Skubb> udev                        977M     0  977M   0% /dev
[12:43] <Skubb> tmpfs                       200M  9.7M  190M   5% /run
[12:43] <Skubb> /dev/dm-1                   233G  218G  2.9G  99% /
[12:43] <Skubb> tmpfs                       996M  160K  995M   1% /dev/shm
[12:43] <cfhowlett> Skubb, ue pastebinit
[12:44] <Skubb> http://pastebin.com/Sd7Lrzhn
[12:44] <Bernzel> cfhowlett, well the update is on 120mb and I have 36gb free space on that disk. But it claims I need to free up space in the /boot directory?
[12:44] <cfhowlett> Bernzel, ah!  you, sir, have old kernels and need to clear some out!
[12:44] <ikonia> Skubb: thats the file system, not the volume size
[12:45] <Bernzel> cfhowlett, show me the
[12:45] <frostschutz> Skubb, sudo lsblk; sudo blockdev --getsize64 /dev/dm-1?
[12:45] <Bernzel> way senpai
[12:45] <cfhowlett> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/removing-old-kernels Bernzel
[12:45] <Bernzel> thanks! cfhowlett
[12:46] <cfhowlett> Bernzel, sorry, wrong url ...
[12:46] <cfhowlett> http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[12:46] <Bernzel> cfhowlett, Ok!
[12:46] <Skubb> http://pastebin.com/BhFXkj08
[12:46] <Skubb> $ sudo blockdev --getsize64 /dev/dm-1
[12:46] <Skubb> 477475373056
[12:48] <frostschutz> Skubb, looks fine, should be: sudo resize2fs /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root
[12:49] <frostschutz> if it's ext4 as you said
[12:50] <Skubb> Nice one, that was the final thing to do
[12:51] <Skubb> I cant believe I haven’t came across that or noticed that final command. Maybe I missed it because all the tutorials were starting from scratch
[12:52] <Skubb> This has been the most painless migration I have ever done. Went from 256 GB to 480 GB, using Clonezilla (expert mode with -k1) which took two hours, now extending in a matter seconds
[12:53] <tomhardy> ok with my ubuntu problems i can list the shares using smbutil, i just cant mount or connect to them
[12:56] <Asdasd> How do i get bf2 on linux with dual screen?
[12:57] <Skubb> Thanks for the help
[13:06] <ArchNoob> hello here, how can i know my monitor driver description?
[13:08] <p4trix> I want to reproduce a Dvd. I think I ll need to mount the DVD device.
[13:08] <sarawara> anywhere to ask a question related to typing chinese ?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !cn | sarawara
[13:08] <p4trix> How do I list the devices: Like fdisk -l but for the optical devices?
[13:08] <sarawara> In English I meant
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> ArchNoob: you mean the graphics card driver?
[13:12] <sarawara> cfhowlett I have a problem when I type for example when I type "shen me", I get "sang enme" (and the corresponding characters, so not those for "shen me", though [shenme] is  to be seen near the "sang enme", might it be a faulty setting? (I had no trouble before)
[13:12] <mjayk> dpkg: error processing package matlab-support (--configure):
[13:12] <ArchNoob> lotuspsychje: I guess.. Yes!
[13:12] <mjayk> i get that error on all apt commands
[13:12] <cfhowlett> sarawara, this is ubuntu?  not ubuntu-kylin??
[13:12] <mjayk> however the program matlab-support seams to be working fine
[13:12] <mjayk> any suggestions ?
[13:13] <sarawara> I'm sorry cfhowlett, yes 14.04
[13:14] <cfhowlett> sarawara, really might be better to ask in one of the chinese language ubuntu channels.  While it's true I'm in China, I do NOT speak Chinese nor do I have chinese language support installed.
[13:14] <dhalsim> hello, I'm trying to add a new startup script to init.d, If I "sudo ./myscript start" it works, but "sudo service myscript start" it just prints "myscript start/post-start, process 3098"
[13:16] <sarawara> What channel would that be? (not in chinese I hope, cause I don't speak chinese (yet :D) )
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !cn | sarawara
[13:16] <sarawara> is  !cn  a channel cfhowlett?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> huh.  #ubuntu-cn
[13:17] <k1l_> !alis | sarawara
[13:17] <k1l_> sarawara: search alis if there is a general chinese channel on freenode
[13:17] <ArchNoob> hello here, how can i know my monitor driver description?
[13:17] <beecarr> hi guys, am tying to upgrade ubuntu 12.4 to ubuntu 14.3, on my laptop. I persistently get : Problem occurred while loading the URL http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty-updates/main/dist-upgrader-all/current/ReleaseAnnouncement.html?lang=en_GB&os=ubuntu&ver=14.04.3%20LTS
[13:18] <beecarr> Is there anywy round this?
[13:18] <k1l_> beecarr: what are you doing exactly? running the versionupgrade?
[13:18] <sarawara> k1l_ I don't need a chinese channel, I need someone English who knows about keyboard input for chinese
[13:19] <beecarr> yes just that from the update -manager
[13:19] <k1l_> sarawara: please specifiy what you need support with exactly. so long i just saw you taling about learning chinese
[13:20] <k1l_> beecarr: open up a terminal and do a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you have the latest version of 12.04 installed. if there are any errors please put all the output into a pastebin and link it here
[13:20] <ArchNoob> Hello, a little help please. I'm using i3-wm, with dual screen. Whenever I boot my pc, while not connected to the monitor and then connect it later, It doesn't recognize untill i log out then login. How can I get around this issue?
[13:20] <beecarr> will do . many thanks
[13:22] <k1l_> ArchNoob: seems like i3 is so minimal and not running the plug&play services in the background.
[13:23] <sarawara> k1l_  something is wrong with the text entry for pin yin I'm on 14.04 lts :   for example when I type "shen me", I get "sang enme" (and the corresponding characters, so not those for "shen me", though [shenme] is  to be seen near the "sang enme", might it be a faulty setting? (I had no trouble before)
[13:24] <cousteau> Hi.  Ubuntu 12.04, trying to install mingw-w64 via apt-get, I'm getting "mingw-w64 : Depends: gcc-mingw-w64 but it is not going to be installed / E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages."
[13:25] <k1l_> cousteau: please run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and show the output in a pastebin
[13:25] <cousteau> is that the same as installing all updates?  (I just did that)
[13:25] <ArchNoob> k1l_: mmmh nice answer. That explains more.. Thank you!
[13:26] <k1l_> cousteau: yes, but it also installed held packages
[13:26] <cousteau> oh
[13:26] <bruce_lee> \(^_^)/ @all
[13:26] <bruce_lee> how long is ubuntu 14.04 going to be supported?
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !lts | bruce_lee
[13:27] <bruce_lee> eol this year or next year?
[13:27] <bruce_lee> :)
[13:27] <k1l_> bruce_lee: 5 years
[13:27] <beecarr> Back again. Heres my feed back from my sudo : W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://linux.dropbox.com/ubuntu/ precise/main i386 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/linux.dropbox.com_ubuntu_dists_precise_main_binary-i386_Packages)
[13:27] <beecarr> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[13:27] <beecarr> Reading package lists... Done
[13:27] <beecarr> Building dependency tree
[13:27] <beecarr> Reading state information... Done
[13:27] <beecarr> Calculating upgrade... Done
[13:27] <beecarr> 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
[13:27] <bruce_lee> thank you! @all
[13:27] <k1l_> ArchNoob: did you have a read here already? seems like its a common issue: https://i3wm.org/docs/multi-monitor.html
[13:28] <cousteau> dist-upgrade: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.   full output: http://codepad.org/yl0Uwp5t
[13:28] <omilun> hello i need to mound a flash memory on a pc ?
[13:28] <k1l_> beecarr: please put it all on paste.ubuntu.com and link it here
[13:29] <beecarr> right
[13:29] <BluesKaj> omilun, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[13:29] <omilun> when i mount /dev/sdb i said :linux-zq5p:/media/disk # mount /dev/sdb
[13:29] <omilun> mount: can't find /dev/sdb in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[13:29] <k1l_> cousteau: what says a "apt-cache policy mingw-w64"?
[13:29] <beecarr> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:30] <omilun> BluesKaj: i need to ssh on my pc
[13:30] <zykotick9> omilun: "sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt" <- you're missing the mount point (if it's not pre-setup in fstab)
[13:30] <crlcan81> Does anyone here have skills with MOCP or MOC itself? I'm on ubuntu 14.04, unsure of precise version, but I'm wishing to do something that i think can be done as lately I've found a stream I couldn't play at all now plays on my browser, and can be opened using VLC. I simply wish to use MOCP instead to play the same stream. Just not sure how to get the proper address vlc uses to open it and copy it to MOCP itself. What I did use originally
[13:30] <crlcan81> isn't the right stream url exactly.
[13:30] <cousteau> er...  ok, after tracing all the "won't be installed" packages, I found out that apparently I can't have mingw32 and mingw-w64 simultaneously
[13:31] <crlcan81> If someone mentioned an answer to my question I didn't notice as you didn't mention my name directly so I didn't see a 'highlight' relating to my question.
[13:31] <BluesKaj> omilun, you can run the command once you ssh into it
[13:31] <elok> 	/server -ssl 37.59.196.102 40079 GpkRVLp7rTi76WC
[13:31] <elok> 	/server -ssl 37.59.196.102 40079 GpkRVLp7rTi76WC
[13:31] <elok> server -ssl 37.59.196.102 40079 GpkRVLp7rTi76WC
[13:31] <elok> RDF 3
[13:33] <omilun> zykotick9: when i use only  mount it dose not know my flash memory
[13:33] <cousteau> k1l_, http://codepad.org/c4X4FvvZ in case you were curious
[13:33] <cousteau> but it seems to be an issue of mingw32 and mingw-w64 being mutually exclusive
[13:34] <k1l_> cousteau: yes, sounds like that.
[13:35] <zykotick9> omilun: i'm unclear on what you mean.  are you sure it's /dev/sdb and not /dev/sdb1 or a different device sdc perhaps?
[13:36] <k1l_> beecarr: i did not see a pastebin of the output yet
[13:36] <k1l_> !paste | beecarr
[13:36] <cousteau> damn, I thought I could have both since their names are different
[13:36] <beecarr> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[13:36] <k1l_> beecarr: that is not paste.ubuntu.com
[13:36] <cousteau> so the only way to compare them on this machine is to uninstall one and install the other each time, or to download and install it manually
[13:36] <beecarr> how do I do that pls,
[13:37] <cousteau> step 1: go to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:37] <k1l_> beecarr: mark all the text, copy it to paste.ubuntu.com. get a new url when sending the text, paste the url here. like uploading a photo just with text
[13:38] <cfhowlett> beecarr, or run your command in terminal and append | nc termbin.com 9999
[13:38] <cousteau> step 2: paste the huge amount of text you were going to paste here on the Content frame
[13:38] <cousteau> step 3: click [Paste!]
[13:38] <cousteau> step 4: copy the URL you get redirected to (which will be something like http://paste.ubuntu.com/ASADfsdfaASDf4) and paste it here
[13:39] <sarawara> k1l_ here you can see what is happening: I type shen me, but get something different :  http://imagebin.ca/v/2LAdwK28qaeb
[13:39] <joel> I recently pulled an external video card out of my machine, I'm now using onboard video. When I log into X I get shown a screen that says ubuntu 14.04 lts in the bottom right, but it's as if my desktop environment isn't being started. Calls to xset say unable to open display "". Thoughts on how to fix?
[13:39] <beecarr> Sorry guys must go now . Will be back soon. Many thanks
[13:40] <k1l_> sarawara: what website is that?
[13:42] <cfhowlett> sarawara, is this in the terminal or your browser
[13:42] <k1l_> sarawara: see this site: http://www.pinyinjoe.com/faq/ubuntu-1404-chinese-ime-problems-faq.htm
[13:43] <k1l_> sarawara: but since i dont use chinese you would have more luck finding one in #ubuntu-cn who uses chinese input
[13:43] <pjph> Hai
[13:44] <clecio> abc
[13:45] <pjph> How many ram isu ubuntu used
[13:45] <cfhowlett> pjph, depends.  open your terminal and type in this command:          free
[13:45] <k1l_> pjph: did you install it already? if not see here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuGNOME
[13:48] <smartass> hi, what is the recommnded way to set up cgroups in ubuntu 14.04.3 ? cgroup-bin does not have any daemons enabled, only some in examples
[13:51] <smartass> the init scripts in examples seem to be only for RH systems
[13:52] <pjph> What is best linux de?
[13:53] <Pici> pjph: the one you like best
[13:54] <zykotick9> pjph: What is the best colour?
[13:56] <pjph> I just use kde,xfce and mate but i like mate ,i had not tried unity yet
[13:56] <pjph> nn
[13:57] <pjph> X
[13:59] <Zarus> I removed my glfrx drivers, and cant get xorg graphic drivers to work waht to do ?
[14:03] <joel> it seems like it's trying to load a non-existant nvidia driver and I don;t know how to stop it
[14:05] <hateball> joel: Have a look in /etc/modprobe.d/ and see if there's anything there
[14:07] <Palm_premium> I use Gnome shell 3.18 the default Debian desktop
[14:07] <Palm_premium> Still beats Unity :P
[14:09] <crlcan81> I am a cairo dock fan myself, even if I'd love to use mate more.
[14:09] <crlcan81> My favorite overall has been openbox with tint2 taskbar, but it doesn't offer all the fatures I need for everything I want to do on this system.
[14:10] <pjph> I tried many distro in vm but it seems laggy what may the cause of it?
[14:10] <crlcan81> Yah, honestly an abacus beats unity, it's the Linux equivilent of the windows metro UI.
[14:10] <Palm_premium> How is Cairo now a days. I used a couple of years ago when Ubuntu still came with the classic gnome desktop
[14:10] <k1l_> pjph: too less ressources for the vm
[14:10] <crlcan81> what version did you use? I can say one major flaw still remains that bugs me, though some other things I dealt with seemed to be smoothed over toa degree.
[14:11] <k1l_> crlcan81: Palm_premium please take the chat to #ubuntu-offtopic so we can have technical support in here
[14:11] <crlcan81> sorry we shall
[14:11] <Val_> Hi, I have a script, strt.sh, which is executable and runs properly from the CL using "/home/ipt/strt.sh" I add it to my crontab but it fails to execute. I've done google searches and tried a number of fixes, but am missing something. Any help appreciated.
[14:14] <EriC^^> Val_: add > /tmp/script.log 2>&1 to the end of the command
[14:15] <Val_> ok, once sec EriC^^
[14:15] <roscoe> Is it possible to install older,unsupported versions of Ubuntu on Windows XP computers or is 12.04 the earliest that will work?
[14:16] <EriC^^> !lubuntu | roscoe
[14:16] <EriC^^> roscoe: lubuntu is made for older hardware
[14:16] <cfhowlett> roscoe, lubuntu for the win
[14:17] <roscoe> is there a seperate installation CD available for lubuntu?
[14:17] <EriC^^> releases.ubuntu.com roscoe
[14:17] <cfhowlett> lubuntu.net roscoe
[14:17] <Val_> EriC^^ /tmp/script.log 2>&1 added, script run, tried to cat the log and got "/tmp/script.log: No such file or directory"
[14:18] <EriC^^> Val_: add a > before /tmp/script.log
[14:18] <roscoe> thanks
[14:18] <Val_> 2>&1?
[14:18] <Val_> lol cool, thanks :d
[14:19] <Pici> Val_: 2>&1 sends stderr to the same place that stdout is going, which in this case is the logfile mentioned above.
[14:21] <Palm_premium> lo
[14:21] <Palm_premium> lo
[14:21] <pjph> What is the best distro to play dota 2?
[14:22] <Palm_pre1ium> hello
[14:22] <crlcan81> why so many palms, what's happening to palm's connection, is it a 'bot of some kind, or script?
[14:22] <cfhowlett> Palm_pre1ium, this is ubuntu support.  ask your questions.
[14:22] <k1l_> pjph: one that works for you. and since you ask in #ubuntu its ubuntu :)
[14:23] <Palm_premium> exit
[14:23] <akxwi_dave> pjph, I find xubuntu seems to be the best for games. All flavours ill play games great but for me they seem to run better under xfce
[14:24] <Palm_premium> hello
[14:24] <k1l_> Palm_premium: are you done now? please keep this channel free for ubuntu support
[14:24] <Val_> EriC^^: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13082508/ is the script I am truing to run - adding the logging seemed to do nothhing
[14:25] <cfhowlett> Palm_premium, this is ubuntu support.  stay on topic or play somewhere else
[14:26] <Val_> EriC^^: my crontab: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13082521/
[14:26] <EriC^^> Val_: you're never calling the function
[14:27] <Val_> EriC^^: Line 22?
[14:27] <EriC^^> Val_: either just make it if [[ ... or add start_rtorrent at the bottom
[14:28] <EriC^^> no i mean the function start_rtorrent isn't being called
[14:28] <Val_> ah, I see - once sec let me load the poriginal and see what i missed
[14:29] <edenc_> Is this a reasonable irc to ask a beginner bash question on?
[14:30] <baizon> edenc_: just afk
[14:30] <EriC^^> ask away
[14:30] <baizon> *ask
[14:30] <Val_> EriC^^ http://forums.rutorrent.org/index.php?topic=1442.0 is the original and as i say, run manually it does what it should - it onloy fails when i try to run it via crontab
[14:30] <edenc_> so I'm working from copied code, just want to make a folder if it doesn't exist. The copied code uses if [ $# -ne 1 ] then mkdir $DIR fi
[14:30] <EriC^^> Val_: when you run it manually what do you type?
[14:31] <edenc_> why check arguments in script?
[14:31] <Val_> ./strt.sh or /home/ipt/strt.sh
[14:31] <Val_> let me verify again :D
[14:32] <Val_> yes, the forst works properly, EriC^^
[14:32] <EriC^^> edenc_: that just checks if you supplied a dir after the script name i guess
[14:33] <EriC^^> Val_: hmm, try to add start_rtorrent at the bottom of the script
[14:33] <edenc_> Okay so it wouldnt run if $DIR wasn't defined basically
[14:34] <mou> hi
[14:34] <EriC^^> edenc_: yeah
[14:34] <mou> I love having amazon with normal installation of new ubuntu
[14:34] <gremlin_> Hey
[14:35] <Val_> Sorry, EriC^^ I missed a few lines from the paste: start_rtorrent >/dev/null exit 0
[14:35] <Val_> exit 0 is its own line
[14:35] <cric32> anyone here fimilar with mdadm ? i need some help trying to recover an array if anyone has a sec
[14:36] <EriC^^> edenc_: it actually checks if the parameters are not equal to 1
[14:36] <EriC^^> edenc_: so if you pass nothing it also runs, or 2 arguments etc. too
[14:36] <Daffy> What's the help room?
[14:36] <EriC^^> Daffy: here
[14:36] <edenc_> EriC_:, that's helpful.
[14:36] <EriC^^> Val_: oh ok, makes sense now
[14:36] <Daffy> awesome i need some advice or pointed to a place i can learn.
[14:37] <Val_> yeah, my bad - sorry
[14:37] <EriC^^> Val_: remove the /dev/null part so it outputs then check /tmp/script.log again
[14:37] <cfhowlett> !manual | Daffy,
[14:37] <Val_> ah! yes, that makes sense. one sec
[14:37] <cfhowlett> Daffy, also, www.fullcirclemagazine.org/downloads.  Start with #0.  read. #1.  read. >>> #102
[14:37] <Daffy> Thank you Ubottu. I don't know that it'll go into what i really need here.
[14:38] <cfhowlett> !details | Daffy,
[14:39] <Daffy> Okay. So I installed cpufrequtils to help conserve battery life since it was just terrible. But i noticed that running cpufreq-info in terminal tells me ubuntu is seeing my cpu's hardware limits as 1.10ghz - 1.90ghz
[14:40] <Daffy> but i know my cpu caps at 3.2ghz with turbo
[14:40] <Val_> EriC^^: I replaced > /dev/null withe the clause you initially game me, ran the script and cat /tmp/script.log returned an empty file
[14:41] <Val_> EriC^^: rtorrent executed in the screen fine
[14:41] <EriC^^> Val_: oh ok
[14:41] <EriC^^> maybe cause it's running in screen
[14:42] <Val_> if the script executes shouldn't it execute under cron?
[14:42] <Val_> sorry, this is all brand new to me
[14:42] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[14:42] <Val_> well, if the script executes successfully manually
[14:42] <k1l_> Daffy: for newer intel cpus it uses intel-pstate and it sets the limit to what is actually needed right now to not burn too much battery for running at turbo speed
[14:42] <Val_> shouldnt that same command execute when added to my crontab?
[14:43] <EriC^^> Val_: not necessarily, different environment and stuff
[14:43] <Val_> ah
[14:43] <Daffy> Ah. I probably should have mentioned i'm actually using an amd apu.
[14:43] <EriC^^> Val_: try just putting the command without screen so you can see what output it gives when cron runs it
[14:43] <Palm_premium> val_: check your syslog, if the cron has run you should be able to find it there
[14:45] <EriC^^> Val_: is rtorrent a gui app?
[14:45] <Palm_premium> EriC^^: rtorrent is an ncurses application, quite user friendly for a command line torrent client.
[14:46] <Val_> grep of syslog shows my edit just now, but the last list activity is an hour ago.
[14:46] <Val_> what palm said. I'da just said no :D
[14:46] <EriC^^> Palm_premium: i see
[14:46] <EriC^^> Val_: does it say CRON <your command here> in syslog?
[14:47] <Palm_premium> EriC^^:grep CRON /var/log/syslog
[14:47] <Val_> Nov  2 14:45:01 tedsSB CRON[35094]: (ipt) CMD (/home/ipt/strt.sh)
[14:48] <EriC^^> ok
[14:48] <Val_> but when I do a screen -ls it shows no sessions
[14:48] <Val_> nor is the service available
[14:48] <EriC^^> Val_: try replacing COMMAND= in the script with just "rtorrent"
[14:48] <bodom> Hi there
[14:49] <EriC^^> COMMAND=rtorrent
[14:49] <Daffy> hmm i see what you're saying i think.
[14:49] <Daffy> Maybe it's not the actual max i'm looking at but rather a range it's currently running at?
[14:50] <Daffy> That doesn't seem right though. lscpu also is listing it as 1.90 max.
[14:50] <Val_> EriC^^: It hangs like there is a process running invisibly
[14:50] <Val_> ctrl-c breaks it
[14:51] <rafael_> HELP. My Ubuntu 15.10 won't  shutdown. [Sorry bad english]
[14:52] <EriC^^> Daffy: do something cpu intensive maybe
[14:52] <Palm_premium> rafael_: sudo shutdown -hP now
[14:52] <EriC^^> Val_: try it in cron
[14:53] <BluesKaj> rafael_, ctl+alt+delete?
[14:53] <Palm_premium> rafael_: is it hanging during the process of shutting down or are you getting an error?
[14:55] <Daffy> would running a couple tabs playing youtube videos work?
[14:55] <EriC^^> hmm
[14:55] <EriC^^> try for i in {0..100000000}; do echo $(($i+$i)); done
[14:56] <Val_> EriC^^: No go I'm afraid. It shows as executing in syslog but no rtorrent
[14:57] <EriC^^> maybe drop a couple zeros
[14:58] <frostschutz> Val_, if you're open to alternative solutions, I run rtorrent in a screen using https://github.com/frostschutz/Screen-Manager (which lets you sm start rtorrent, sm attach rtorrent, sm stop rtorrent, also in cron)
[14:58] <EriC^^> Val_: what about /tmp/script.log ?
[14:59] <Val_> ah hah!
[15:01] <Val_> EriC^^: /home/ipt/strt.sh: 24: /home/ipt/strt.sh: [[: not found
[15:01] <mou> hi
[15:02] <mou> I love having amazon from normal installation thank you so much
[15:02] <mou> i love you
[15:02] <Val_> EriC^^ if [[ -z $(pgrep -u $USER rtorrent) ]]; then
[15:02] <fynn> Hi. I just finished installing Ubuntu onto my Mid-2012 MackbookPro. Installation seems to have gone smoothly, gives?but now it won't boot at all. What
[15:02] <mou> ubuntu really helps linux developpement
[15:02] <Val_> frostschutc: thanks, if i can not get this sorted i will deffo look into it
[15:04] <Daffy> That did not go well.
[15:04] <Daffy> I actually froze up.
[15:04] <Daffy> and had to reboot.
[15:05] <Guest13004> Hi, I am looking for help with setuid and setgid. I want to start xampp as root user with out having to type password everytime. If I understood correctly, it can be done with setuid and set gid. This is how I did it:
[15:05] <Guest13004> rain@rain:/opt/lampp$ sudo chown root managger-linux-x64.run
[15:05] <Guest13004> [sudo] password for rain:
[15:05] <Guest13004> rain@rain:/opt/lampp$ sudo chmod u+s manager-linux-x64.run
[15:05] <Guest13004> rain@rain:/opt/lampp$  ./manager-linux-x64.run
[15:05] <EriC^^> Val_: sorry, got dc
[15:05] <Guest13004> Now it runs but not as root
[15:05] <Daffy> oh
[15:05] <Guest13004> Because it does not have permissions to start/stop apache
[15:05] <Val_> EriC^^ no worries, I'll repeat the last
[15:05] <Val_> EriC^^: /home/ipt/strt.sh: 24: /home/ipt/strt.sh: [[: not found
[15:05] <Val_> EriC^^ if [[ -z $(pgrep -u $USER rtorrent) ]]; then
[15:05] <Guest13004> And I still have to use sudo ...
[15:06] <Guest13004> Any ideas how to get it work?
[15:06] <Val_> Fynn, When I bootcamped to Windows I sometimes had to hold the option (I think) key down to get the boot menu - maybe that will help you?
[15:06] <EriC^^> Val_: maybe it's running the script with sh
[15:07] <Val_> EriC^^: #!/bin/bash at the head of the script. Is there a way to explicitly invoke bash in the crontab?
[15:08] <EriC^^> Val_: in the crontab type bash /path/to/script
[15:08] <Val_> k, thats easy enough :D
[15:09] <Daffy> hmm
[15:09] <Daffy> could it be something with the gallium driver?
[15:10] <Daffy> kidn of terrified to switch to the proprietary driver... last time it bent my system over and boinked it.
[15:10] <artois> what's that mean?
[15:10] <artois> you had to reinstall the open source one?
[15:11] <artois> sounds like the worst possible outcome! :p
[15:11] <Val_> EriC^^: pgrep: invalid user name: rtorrent (from bash /home/ipt/strt.sh in crontab)
[15:11] <Daffy> no, it messed everything up even for the open source one.
[15:11] <Daffy> reverting back left a ton of problems.
[15:11] <EriC^^> Val_: you're adding it in crontab -e?
[15:12] <Val_> EriC^^ yes
[15:12] <EriC^^> oh
[15:12] <EriC^^> try pgrep -u rtorrent in a shell
[15:13] <EriC^^> oh nevermind
[15:13] <Val_> same message :D
[15:13] <EriC^^> Val_: modify the script
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Daffy, intel graphics ?
[15:13] <EriC^^> USER=${USER:-$1}
[15:13] <EriC^^> this line
[15:13] <EriC^^> just set it to USER=rtorrent
[15:14] <alteregoa> where can i get configure options from ubuntu packages?
[15:15] <Daffy> hmm
[15:16] <EriC^^> Val_: or put it in the rtorrent user's cron, sudo crontab -u rtorrent -e
[15:17] <EriC^^> actually don't nevermind
[15:18] <Daffy> Hmm even dmidecode -t 4 reads it back as that.
[15:18] <Daffy> max speed 1900Mhz.. current speed 1900Mhz.
[15:18] <Daffy> that's like.. the minimum speed this goes.
[15:19] <Daffy> the version and cpu info is correct though.
[15:19] <AvocetVIS> trying to create a ipv6 tunnel using hurricane electric and here's what I got >> http://pastebin.com/xjWvVwvF   - I should mention there is also a vpn server setup on this machine. and the machine itself is actually a vps
[15:20] <Guest49226> does anyone know of a way to force a drive to be say /dev/sdb or /dev/sda. I have a raid with a drive having issues, one is /dev/sda and the other is /dev/sdb but no matter which drive I pull on reboot the leftover one is now /dev/sda
[15:20] <EriC^^> Guest49226: udev rule maybe
[15:21] <Guest49226> EriC^^ is that something I can assign a /dev/sdX* to a UUID or something?
[15:22] <BluesKaj> not familiar enough anymore with amd graphics and their manydrivers and options , seems kind of hit and miss
[15:22] <Val_> Well, that's beaten me up enough for today. Thanks, EriC^^, frostschutz
[15:23] <Daffy> Yea.
[15:23] <someDude> What is a good program that works like truecrypt for Linux?  I'm looking for on-the-fly-encryption
[15:24] <mou> I love having amazon from normal installation thank you so much
[15:24] <mou> ubuntu really helps linux developpement
[15:24] <Daffy> I feel like this is probably a kernel issue.
[15:24] <k1l_> someDude: erm, truecrypt?