[00:13] sgclark, marco-parillo: that looks about right [00:15] k [00:15] ty [02:10] sgclark: qtcurve installs and works fine now. thank you for rebuilding it === gla_ is now known as zoranoth [09:05] sorry my fault ;-) [09:07] actually ours [09:07] also yours though [09:07] it also failed on KDE CI [09:07] so my fault [09:07] yeah, just saw [09:08] I thought it was the pile of red kci has been for weeks :( [09:09] meh that sucks [09:09] I should just upgrade minimum epoxy version ;-) [09:10] :O [09:14] compile fix pushed [09:24] on kde ci it compiles again [09:34] won't compile on kci though as kwayland doesn't build on account of not having qt5.5 I think https://launchpadlibrarian.net/223711698/buildlog_ubuntu-wily-amd64.kwayland_4%3A5.4.2%2Bgit20151030.0058%2B15.10-0_BUILDING.txt.gz [09:34] anwyway [09:34] * sitter away === vinay is now known as Guest78833 [11:57] jmux: any news on the BSP? [11:59] shadeslayer: I'm waiting for my last approval from the hierarchy, which should happen tomorrow. I'm waiting for mor people to sign up in the doodle [11:59] ah ok [12:00] jmux: did you send it out? I don't think I saw it on the mailing lists [12:00] But everything looks ok, so I really expect this to happen, whatever WE is choosen [12:03] shadeslayer: Well I wrote to the people which normally forwarded the info (Riddell, mbanck, Swee5hark, mbolander, hefee, ...), as I'm not subscribted to the lists [12:04] But feel free to post the info wherever you think it's appropriate [12:04] ah ok [12:14] yofel: happy birthday! :D [12:17] o.O yofel has birthday today? [12:22] shadeslayer: thanks! :D [12:22] ghostcube: yes ;) [12:22] http://www.grusskartenkaufen.de/images/produkte/i41/4166.jpg yofel [12:22] :D [12:22] hahaha XD [12:29] happy birthday yofel :) http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/2479107/birthday-gif-o.gif [12:30] heh, thanks :D [12:34] hiyas all [12:41] hiho BluesKaj [12:44] Hey soee [12:46] ahoneybun: sorry, took a while until I had time to look into the bootstrap theme import, but now your content is on http://docs.kubuntu.org/sphinx/ - please check if something's missing or wrong, otherwise ping me and I'll move it to the root folder [12:47] :) [12:47] np yofel and happy bday [12:47] thanks :) [12:47] it looks all good to me [12:49] ok, let me move it then [12:50] moved [12:50] that was fast [12:50] lol [12:50] well, it was 2 shell commands :P [12:51] XD [12:51] yofel: http://docs.kubuntu.org/_sources/docs/installation.txt [12:51] just text :) [12:51] yeah, RST is certainly more readable than docbook.. [12:53] yea that was a +1 for sure about using it [12:53] yofel: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6zAAODZFwQ2MzY4aWVkbFVBRkk/view?usp=sharing [12:54] epub :) [12:54] works in Google Play Books app [12:55] g2g bbl [12:55] I think that would fit great into an "Alternative content" section or so [12:55] hm, the Search is a bit weird as it shows the source file content in the page excerpt.. [12:56] but that's minor issues [13:11] ahoneybun: I don't think much has changed since trusty, but do you think it would make sense to provide both $latest and $latest-lts docs? (After all we do promote both on the download page) [13:12] maybe adding a link to the old docs (the folder is still there) would solve that for now? [14:00] for a quick(!) test of a kwin upstream patch: What do I have to make this work: patch < ../try-me.diff; debuild [14:01] I would like to avaid adding quilt machinery for the test [14:03] between those commands run "dpkg-source --commit", that'll auto-create a quilt patch [14:04] alternatively, set debian/source/format to "3.0 (native)", then it'll ignore the tarball [14:04] yofel: thx, trying ... [14:10] allee: just in case you are very very very veteran and you didn't notice: with the source format 3.0 (quilt) you don't have to add any quilt machinery; while the source format is called "3.0 (quilt)" quilt isn't needed to build the package, so you would just need to do something like [14:10] echo "try-me.diff" >> debian/patches/series [14:10] cp ../try-me.diff debian/patches/ [14:11] and that should work out of the box as long as the patch is -p1 iirc [14:11] it should, yes [14:14] santa_: interesting. Looks like I'm very very very veteran :-) Since format 3.0 was introduced I had almost no time for packaging [14:15] aha [14:15] for the record my favourite way to do what you did is just quilt import /path/to/patch [14:16] note that it doesn't require to change debian/rules or adding quilt to build depends [14:16] allee: welcome to the future :P :) [14:19] * allee hides in his stone age cave [14:22] Happy birthday yofel! [14:23] yofel: All the best!! [14:23] sgclark, allee: thanks! :) [14:33] yofel: 4.14.3 to backports? or another day testing? [14:36] sgclark: trusty? with ppa? I can check/test them on my work computer if you want [14:38] I think we've tested what we could. It didn't explode on me in KVM and I can't find any more package upgrade problems [14:39] don't forget to update l10n though [14:39] yofel: I tried and it was already updated. apparently by you [14:40] huh? [14:40] uhm, ok, looking [14:41] looks like it was to fix a bug [14:41] allee: staging-kdeapplications is the ppa for trusty [14:41] all the things I do that I don't know of, how amazing [14:42] lol [14:42] ditto [14:42] ok, joking aside. I don't see 4.14.3 in lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-l10n-common-trusty-backports [14:43] cuz it is in kde-l10n-common-trusty [14:43] aaaah [14:44] wait [14:45] sgclark: that's 4.13.3, not 4.14.3 [14:45] the -backports branch has 4.14.2 from you as the latest [14:45] oh hah dislexia lol [14:46] ok updating :) [14:47] I was wondering already because I made that annyoing branching scheme exactly to not mess that stuff up [14:49] oh, UOS started already. Time flies.. [14:52] ugh, when is ours? [14:54] 19:00 UTC (in ~4h) according to the schedule [14:55] oh good grief [14:56] What's a UOS? [14:56] ubuntu online summit [14:56] the "we have no money so lets say that meeting online is easier for people all around the world" version of the developer summit [14:57] mamarley: today's schedule if you're curious http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/2015-11-03/ [14:59] I'll try to prepare some items to talk about once I get home.. lets see who shows up [15:03] * shadeslayer has a flipping headache, not moi [15:13] I have not slept well in days, so will likely skip the videon part, but will be there on headset [15:14] video* [15:15] Will there be a presentation of some sort for UOS? [15:16] there was a CI showcase session at least [15:16] not sure if the plasma mobile one is going to happen === tazz_ is now known as tazz [15:53] I also see this: https://plus.google.com/+RickTimmis/posts/Bwc6ZhmGeCT timed with UOS, I think. [15:54] the timing is coincidence, they always do it on the first wednesday of a month [15:54] good timing indeed though ;P === mitya57_ is now known as mitya57 [16:00] muon (Plasma/5.4) v5.4.2-10-ga24e495 * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/PackageKitBackend (3 files) [16:00] Batch resource package id's [16:00] This way we make sure it stays consistent [16:00] BUG: 354562 [16:00] http://commits.kde.org/muon/a24e495c2eea95e76b1389bdffaf27e30d7e273a [16:00] bug 339148 in gnome-app-install (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #354562 gnome-app-install crashed with ValueError in _refilter()" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/339148 [16:00] muon (master) v5.4.2-161-gcbb878f * Aleix Pol: libmuon/backends/PackageKitBackend/PackageKitResource.h [16:00] const will be const [16:00] http://commits.kde.org/muon/cbb878fa24554b4309527af2b946253c4cca2c0f [16:00] muon (master) v5.4.2-164-gd717480 * Aleix Pol: (4 files in 2 dirs) [16:00] Merge branch 'Plasma/5.4' [16:00] http://commits.kde.org/muon/d717480bafa1b152f499ee1409a193be35c57a2f [16:05] kl10n uploaded for trusty, afk till uos meeting, that is 2 hours now right yofel? [16:05] 3 I think. run "date -u" in konsole and then see when 19:00 UTC is for you [16:06] ahh 3 even better, thanks [16:10] great, tried to upload the autopackagetest fixes [16:10] 35 of 80 uploads were rejected [16:10] our packageset is soo broken [16:12] to archive? [16:13] yep [16:13] I'll update the seed later [16:13] ouch. yeah I get rejected on several of those still [16:14] we should probably have a scripted section in our supported seed that we can update in an easy way [16:14] (that that lists binary packages doesn't make things easier...) [16:14] yeah [16:23] santa_, yofel: thx for the patch test tips. I confirmed the fix upstream. I hope the patch makes it into 5.4.3 [16:28] and kwin failed to build, dangit [16:31] yofel: lucky me, I used apt-get source kwin ;-) [16:31] well, you probably didn't build on xenial ;) [16:32] Yessss, sir :-) [17:01] does anyone know what provides "bzr fast-export"? [17:24] yofel: do you know what this means? [17:24] although that would only lead to the crash if if KDE on kubuntu is being compiled without Q_ASSERT. Otherwise we would hit the Q_ASSERT earlier and get a more clearer backtrace :) [17:53] answered that in #kontact [17:59] yofel: happy birthday [17:59] thanks! [17:59] Are you partying ? [17:59] not today, over the weekend ;) [18:00] have fun [18:02] that's the plan :D [18:02] someone tried Firefox 42 with Mizilla's adblocker ? [18:03] yofel: Happy Birthday :) [18:03] thanks! [18:03] yofel: [18:03] I'm drinking a beer right now in your honor [18:03] :D [18:48] soee_: I have not. I simply replace my /etc/hosts with: http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt I do feel guilty about the wholesale approach to the sites I like that have small, unobtrusive ads, but they seem to be the minority. [18:54] thanks yofel [18:54] reminder: kubuntu UOS 16.04 planning in ~10min http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22602/kubuntu-xenial-planning/so [18:54] should we be using that in Kubuntu? [18:54] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22602/kubuntu-xenial-planning/ [18:55] yofel: can I listen in? [18:55] clivejo: dunno, asserts are usually debug stuff for developers. I'll wait for Dan to answer [18:55] sure, the stream is open, feel free to even join in if you want [18:55] at least in the IRC channel [18:56] is it all Ubuntu or just for Kubuntu? [18:56] it's just for us [18:56] general planning meeting about what we want to do for 16.04 [18:57] is there video feed? [18:57] there will be one once the hangout starts [18:58] 2minutes and counting [18:59] ovidiu-florin, sgclark, valorie, Mamarok, ahoneybun, allee: ^ [19:00] I am present [19:01] between sneezes [19:02] 19:02 by my watch :P [19:13] who is ridgewing? [19:14] * shadeslayer is around listening passively [19:20] sgclark: needs fast ssds [19:20] We run kci on a AWS medium right now [19:20] I thinm [19:21] We have provisioning via chef [19:21] yofel: ^ [19:23] need a filter for KB noise on youtube :-) [19:28] shadeslayer: ok thank you [19:39] couldn't heare a word he was saying... [19:41] not just quite, almost mute [19:41] quiet* [19:42] yofel: link to hangout? [19:42] ah, now it works :) [19:43] ovidiu-florin: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22602/kubuntu-xenial-planning/ [19:43] ovidiu-florin: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/onair/watch?hid=hoaevent/chaqbkhl79mnqv56rh9la8teicg&ytl=fgMjIXTdzb... [19:43] the link to join in [19:43] not to watch [19:43] you can join from the one I sent [19:44] https://plus.google.com/hangouts/onair/watch?hid=hoaevent/chaqbkhl79mnqv56rh9la8teicg&ytl=fgMjIXTdzb... [19:44] thats the onair link mhall119 sent [19:44] Mamarok: no I can't [19:44] clivejo: that's just a watch link [19:45] see below the video, set a nick [19:45] that's irc not hangout [19:45] watch it and there is a wee join in link appears on the video [19:45] really? [19:45] let me check again... [19:46] yeah, here is a link the the lover left of the video framet [19:49] I guess I missed it [19:49] hi ahoneybun [19:49] hey clivejo [19:49] try this link - https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYe8_qHwGDAJy7i0Ns3nPmxiHaCK6Tm5h2Cr6FWb9IjJXSDHEw?h... [19:51] ahoneybun: can you join #ubuntu-uos-convergence [19:52] currently talking about docs [19:52] http://docs.kubuntu.org/ [19:52] thanks to yofel [19:53] I don't see how the moin moin wiki would be an improvement :( [19:55] https://raw.githubusercontent.com/ahoneybun/kubuntu-manual/master/source/welcome.rst [20:08] clivejo: thx for the hangout link above. I'm no in. Where did you find this URL? [20:08] there is IRC chat too [20:08] #ubuntu-uos-convergence [20:13] Man, how many uos channels are there? Now I know of -convergence, -showandtell, -core, and -community [20:15] * clivejo shrugs [20:17] genii: these are for the parallel UOS session [20:17] Hm [20:22] clivejo: there was a lot of ban on Jon about pushing Plasma 5 as "half baked" and "broken" when it was KDE 4 was getting no more updates so what else could you do [20:24] ovidiu-florin: not just you, I don't like it at all [20:24] and I have used a fair share of bug trackers [20:29] how about waht plasma does currenlty, Bug Days? [20:29] does plasma not have a built in bug reporting tool? [20:30] that's not the point, they use bugzilla, but they do weekly triaging and bug cleaning [20:30] so we should just organize a weekls day or half day for bug triaging [20:31] I do triaging daily in Amarok since years, but I let slip the Kubuntu bugs because I dislike launchpad's bug tool [20:31] the problem I find users have is that they dont know where to report bugs to [20:32] well, that's rather easy: if it is abpout plasma or a KDE application -> always upstream [20:32] if it is Kubuntu specific, or the underlying system (kernel, etc) then to launchpad [20:32] most users dont bother reporting them any more [20:32] as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike as one user put it! [20:33] most users never bothered to report anyway, some just complain and thinkg the bug is so obvious they don't need to report it, but many bugs are just hitting one specific isntallation [20:33] adn if everybody has that attidued for "oh but that is so obvious", nobody ends up reporting it [20:34] https://vivaldi.net/en-US/teamblog/66-the-first-vivaldi-beta [20:36] who is kiera? [20:36] IRC handle [20:36] yeah, who is keira? [20:39] ovidiu-florin: who is keira in here? Never heatrd that name before [20:39] mhall119 clivejo2: he's Ridgewing I think [20:40] *sigh* doesn't really help if he is not here... [20:41] anyone interested in working on the ring-kde client? [20:42] LOL I think yofel's face said it all! [20:43] where is rick [20:43] in here? [20:44] I dont think rick is monitoring IRC [20:44] he was having windowing trouble [20:44] being onair and in IRC at the same time [20:45] relocate ahoneybun to europe! [20:45] mm [20:46] I would not mind it, I would just need a job before I get there lol [20:46] how about the day before and send report to the ML, so the podcast people can work with it [20:47] not really a good time, the early evenig is fitting everyone, there are no USians in Plasma [20:48] early evening CET I meant [20:52] URL for the follow up hangout? [20:53] still in same hangout [20:56] I thought mhall had to leave? [20:57] yofel: whats the plan for xenial ? are we ready to start devel work on it? [20:57] wait, let me read the channel backlog as I didn't pay attention to this channel [20:58] me either [20:58] yofel: I've got the card up: https://trello.com/c/SkNy0AJ4/25-package-manual-for-shipment [20:59] clivejo: well I have a few backports to wrap up, then we have to start debian merges... [20:59] wondering though if being on debian git might help us here [21:01] have you started a new hangout, or just moving to IRC? [21:01] https://www.google.com/search?q=kubuntu+artwork&espv=2&biw=1920&bih=931&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMI_5vF9JL1yAIVCRkeCh3lJQN_ [21:01] clivejo: mhall had to leave, but we're still in the hangout [21:01] same hangout [21:01] try to join if you want to listen in [21:01] I cant join it [21:01] keeps replaying the 1:40 long one you just had [21:01] must be a new link [21:02] ovidiu-florin: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Artwork#Mini_book [21:02] meh [21:03] yofel: ? [21:05] ahoneybun: clive wanted to join I think [21:05] clivejo: still works for me: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYe8_qHwGDAJy7i0Ns3nPmxiHaCK6Tm5h2Cr6FWb9IjJXSDHEw?h [21:05] that link is asking me to join [21:05] do that [21:06] just mute yourself and turn the video off [21:06] I dont have the plugin [21:06] http://doodle.com/poll/tqyc5m33cnnqrvu3 [21:06] aah [21:08] https://plus.google.com/communities/108139456908538054874 [21:11] I give up! [21:12] well, we're wrapping up and scheduling the next kubuntu podcast [21:12] so not much to hear [21:12] :( [21:12] hey, this was supposed to be an 1h meeting and we went far beyond that :P [21:13] clivejo: back to your question, yes, xenial is open. I'm going to make the trello cards for it over the next days [21:13] but its nice to see stuff being talked about and plans made [21:15] yofel: the public knows that we were down but not out for sure [21:15] clivejo: are you on https://trello.com/kubuntu ? [21:15] now with that hangout out [21:15] indeed [21:15] ah yes, you are [21:15] yofel: yes [21:16] Hello everybody .. [21:17] hi Ridgewing [21:17] hola [21:17] welcome to the crowd ;P [21:17] Ridgewing: hi! [21:17] welcome :) [21:17] Good stuff = happy 2 help ! [21:19] :) [21:24] * clivejo kicks meteor and angularjs [21:24] sgclark: et al. please let me know if it would be helpful for me to round up esp. testers for you [21:25] after that session i'm not quite sure among all the issues kubuntu has which ones are the biggest priority [21:26] QA probably later in the release timeline. Currently I think it's getting our documentation in order and packaging [21:26] yofel: docs a la bzr? [21:26] we can come back to you in a week or two once we know better what we have [21:27] that works for me, yofel. just know i'm happy to help in any way i can. [21:27] wxl: yeah what yofel said, but yes I will definately get back to you, thanks!! [21:27] yofel: the manual? [21:27] sgclark: Plasma 5.4.3 tars this thursday, will you package them ? [21:27] np sgclark [21:27] wxl: docs a la docs.kubuntu.org, our wiki and general docs are a mess, etc [21:28] wheres the wiki? [21:28] we're getting better, but a lot is covered by lots of dust [21:28] https://userbase.kde.org/Kubuntu [21:29] https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu [21:29] https://plus.google.com/u/0/112102796730023795852/posts [21:29] * ahoneybun thinks it is half decent [21:30] sgclark: yofel: when you get in touch, let me know what you need and who the contacts are and i'll round some bodies up for you [21:30] :) [21:31] thanks! [21:31] great meeting all, thank you [21:31] yay kubuntu :) [21:32] * wxl wants a kubuntu t-shirt with that cute dinosaur thingy! [21:32] nice [21:32] XD [21:36] https://www.reddit.com/r/StallmanVideos [21:36] not stallman videos [21:50] bye all. [21:51] bye Ridgewing, hope you come back soon! [21:51] No probs .. see you soon. [22:17] ovidiu-florin: I sent you a message with my patreon , please let me know if you got it, thanks [22:22] that's not a dinosaur, that's a dragon :) [22:26] Mamarok: forgive me. i'm usually a lubunteer. though we do use kubuntu at work. :) [22:33] wxl: no problem, it's Konky, the dragon, it has a bit change appearance since it's early days, go younger and that :) [22:33] changed* [22:37] born on April 23, 1999, btw, for the release of KDE 2.0 [23:03] btw, afaik, touch in Plasma 5 Just Works [23:04] no problems seen in my little travel notebook with touch, at all [23:08] also: happy birthday yofel! [23:08] thanks! [23:08] +1 [23:52] what a great planning session I missed [23:55] looking forward to the kubuntu podcast