[00:25] <rodolfojcj> jrg: for anonymity I read some time ago about Tails (a Debian based distribution). I have no experience with that, however
[00:31] <jrg> i'm sure i'd have to take some extra steps to get the wifi working
[00:31] <jrg> sure wish everybody would just use an intel based wifi module in laptops that works in linux heh
[00:33] <jrg> rotzbub: only an i386 iso?
[01:01] <tzvika1> trying to upgrade to 15.04 from 14.04
[01:01] <tzvika1> getting could not calculate the upgrade error message
[01:01] <tzvika1> any idea?
[06:12] <TriedToLiterally> Hello?
[06:22] <TriedToLiterally> *tumbleweed*
[06:25] <eliba> PRIVMSG eliSky hi
[06:26] <eliba> JOIN #ubuntu
[08:00] <gabrimonfa> hi all, I'm on kubuntu 15.10. I cannot find which package contains debug symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libQt5Qml.so.5
[08:16] <svend-ev> Good morning
[08:23] <freiform> Hi, KMail is loosing my cutom shortcuts after a couple of seconds. I define ALT-A to archive Mail, this works for three, four mails, and then the shortcut is reset. A colleague has the same problem..
[09:52] <ShishKabab> Somehow, when logging into KDE after using Gnome (the previous Kubuntu release was totally broken for me), somehow Abiword starts despite never having used it. It's not listed  under Autostart however.  How can I prevent this?
[09:56] <Margus> does anybody experience repainting problems in Kubuntu 14.04?
[09:56] <Margus> for me only kde/qt widgets are corrupted, gtk world is unaffected
[10:21] <Margus> it seems PyCharm corrupts all Qt graphics
[10:22] <Margus> it doesn't do it immediately, but after using it for a while, all Qt apps repainting, graphics is misaligend
[10:22] <Margus> then, closing PyCharm, everyhthing will look okei again
[10:22] <Margus> how do I debug that_
[10:22] <Margus> how do I debug that?
[10:52] <chrisfromgreece> help !
[10:52] <lolmaus> I've installed fresh 15.10 and I'm missing Actions and Compress menus in Dolphin. How do I enable them?
[10:53] <chrisfromgreece> There is a problem with the newer kernel and amd proprietary drivers , when you try to install proprietary drivers system won't boot
[10:53] <chrisfromgreece> ...is it fixed or not?
[10:57] <chrisfromgreece> can you see my text ?
[11:01] <clivejo> chrisfromgreece: have you checked with the manufacturer of said propietary drivers?
[11:03] <chrisfromgreece> i know its a problem that will be solved in the future i allready used askubuntu
[11:07] <clivejo> chrisfromgreece: who is solving it?  The Ubuntu kernel team or AMD ?
[11:07] <chrisfromgreece> its just not supported by the newer kernel on ubuntu 15.10
[11:07] <chrisfromgreece> i dont know when will be solved
[11:08] <clivejo> You will have to wait until the kernel team apply a patch/fix the problem and use an older kernel that works
[11:09] <chrisfromgreece> how i can installer an older kernel on kubuntu 15.10
[11:09] <clivejo> it usually keeps an older version, when it installs a new old
[11:10] <clivejo> drop into the grub menu and see what options you have
[11:11] <clivejo> You press and hold your SHIFT key while booting to access grub
[11:12] <clivejo> chrisfromgreece: for more information about grub, see here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[11:16] <chrisfromgreece> am i gonna be able to see an older kernel version on grub
[11:16] <chrisfromgreece> ?
[11:19] <chrisfromgreece> this thing was not supposed to happen
[11:30] <hateball> ack, they left too soon :\
[11:30] <hateball> it is a shame when people want help do not idle
[12:07] <mike_sta> Hi, I have a problem with the keyboard layout. It is stuck at English (US). Adding or changing the layout in the kcm module does not affect the actual layout. Using Kubuntu 15.10, KDE 5.15.0. Any ideas?
[12:08] <hateball> mike_sta: can you change it with setxkbmap ?
[12:15] <mike_sta> hateball: yes
[12:16] <hateball> hmmm, sadly not got a plasma 5 machine handy here
[12:16] <hateball> but someone surely will show up if you are patient :)
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:17] <Smurphy> yo dude ...
[13:19] <BluesKaj> hi Smurphy
[13:44] <Smurphy> Boring day. Loocking at pcap day in day out currently ...
[13:45] <Smurphy> And all thta, because customer's can't configure switches correctly :(
[13:53] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, pcap?
[14:04] <TJ-> BluesKaj: packet capture; the network package file format used by libpcap, and the user tools tcpdump, wireshark, etc.
[14:06] <BluesKaj> TJ-, ok thanks
[14:09] <gombean> Hi all.
[14:09] <BluesKaj> hi gombean
[14:10] <gombean> I am trying to set a default application for magnet links in firefox.  Ktorrent is the only app in the list, but I use qBittorrent.  When I click 'Choose Application', it just opens a dolphin(-like) window.  How do I choose qbittorrent from here?
[14:10] <gombean> do i just choose /usr/bin/qbittorrent?
[14:14] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: pcap -> packet capture of network data.
[14:14] <BluesKaj> ktorrent is default, remove it and qbittorerent should open the next time you invoke a torrent url , how ever FF doesn't do magnetic links  without configuration, copy the magnet link location and click on the add url in qbittorent
[14:14] <BluesKaj> gombean,^
[14:14] <Smurphy> ktorrent does magnetic links
[14:15] <BluesKaj> yes, but ktorrent is a pita in other ways
[14:15] <gombean> qbiitorrent does magnet links fine
[14:16] <BluesKaj> gom yes it does if you don't use firefox browser
[14:16] <BluesKaj> gombean,^
[14:16] <gombean> i got it by adding /usr/bin/qbittorrent to app list for firefox magnet links and setting this as default.  now clicking on a magnet will automatically open the magnet in qbittorrent
[14:17] <gombean> unless I am missing something, this appears to work 100%
[14:19] <gombean> is /usr/bin/[app-name] the correct executable to use and are there cases where it is not?
[14:25] <BluesKaj> gombean, if you're unsure just use the locate packagename in the terminal
[14:27] <gombean> BluesKaj: nice one, thanks
[14:29] <BluesKaj> gom  where is the app list in firefox you just mentioned?
[14:29] <BluesKaj> gombean,^
[14:31] <gombean> BluesKaj: When I am on a 'certain' site and click on a magnet link... it just appears.  Ktorrent was the only one in the list until I added qBittorrent
[14:32] <gombean> BluesKaj: But now I notice that for an actual *.torrent file, I only see KTorrent in the list....!?
[14:32] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: in what ways  is ktorrent a pita ?
[14:33] <gombean> I will just uninstall KTorrent
[14:33] <gombean> Smurphy: just personal preference for me really
[14:34] <Smurphy> :}
[14:35] <gombean> all good :)
[14:36] <BluesKaj> gombean, I removed ktorrent , you eithe apt-get remove ktorrent in the terminal or use the packge manager , then qbittorrent will become the only alternative torrent cleint , hence the default
[14:38] <dougiel> so I installed 15.10 and I have not network or wifi - any thoughts?
[14:38] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, qbittorrent is more configurable for ports and download bandwidth etc..w're ikn the boonies and wife is a gamer so we needd more control overdownloading
[14:39] <BluesKaj> dougiel, which wifi chip?
[14:40] <dougiel> atheros 8151 if I recall... double checking
[14:41] <dougiel> Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0)
[14:41] <dougiel> Broadcom Corporation BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 03)
[14:41] <hegemon8> o/ All
[14:41] <dougiel> \o
[14:42] <hegemon8> quick question, when if at all can i expect to see Muon software center to be back again? (The one with packages list like in synaptic
[14:43] <hegemon8> Discover is cool, but it lacks that small command tools that i could browse, You know the whole repo list?
[14:47] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: You're wife is a gamer ??? *lol* Cool. One thing we have in common then :D
[14:48] <Smurphy> Mine is addicted to games. Check this out -> http://stargate.solsys.org/mod.php?mod=blog&user=2&section=232
[14:48] <BluesKaj> dougiel, there's no reason why it shouldn't work . my bcm 4311 works just fine , most broadcoms do
[14:48] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: 3rd entry -> that's our gaming env.:D Parents gaming Env ! :D
[14:49] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, wife is a LOTRO and DDO gamer mostly
[14:50] <Smurphy> lol. Mine loves to play Skyrim, and we met while playing Left4dead. We still play left4dead2 on a regular base. I got a modded server at home for that :)
[14:51] <hegemon8> Left4Dead yay! ok, i'll ask my question again later, going to play now, Smurphy You've reminded me, that there are still zombies to kill...
[14:52] <BluesKaj> hegemon8, just install muon
[14:52] <hegemon8> see Ya :)
[14:52] <hegemon8> BluesKaj:
[14:53] <hegemon8> ok, is it a separate package then that Muon Discover comes with?
[14:53] <BluesKaj> muon discover and muon are 2 different packages, the old muon is much better
[14:54] <hegemon8> i had it in 14.04 with discover, and since 15.04 i guess it wasn't preinstalled
[14:54] <Smurphy> hegemon8: *rofl*: "Get up - there are zombies to kill and shit"
[14:54] <Smurphy> :D
[14:54] <hegemon8> Smurphy: i know right? :D let me install muon then :)
[14:54] <Smurphy> ;)
[14:55] <hegemon8> BluesKaj: ok, thx for clearing this, btw, naming them 2 muon doesn't make it obvious, but what ever, now i know :)
[14:55] <Smurphy> Problem for me, that left4dead2 is not fluid under linux, and I don't know why. Metro last light is faster under linux than under windows.
[14:55] <hegemon8> and BluesKaj true, i liked that "synaptic" kinda style when i know what i look for, but not exact name.
[14:56] <hegemon8> Smurphy: it runs quite well on my s...tty laptop
[14:56] <hegemon8> and man, i'm on gforce 315m
[14:57] <hegemon8> well, depends i guess
[14:57] <BluesKaj> I use muon as a package reference guide, more info about repos and dependencies etc,  even use it to purge or install stuff occasionally
[14:59] <hegemon8> BluesKaj: yes, i get Ya. Discover is nice to have and needed, i wonder if 2 coud get combined like "friendly view" and advanced ? Just an idea
[15:00]  * Smurphy has 2 dedicated gaming rigs, 8GB Ram, i5 2.6Ghz Quad-core CPU's, GTX660 Ti GPU's and SSD Disks (5 year old, will be replaced next year)
[15:00] <BluesKaj> hegemon8, I think muon discover is just a "dumbed down" gui for new useers
[15:03] <Guest49845> how do you put the volure in plasma5 (kubuntu 15.10) over 100%
[15:03] <Guest49845> it used to be called 'overdrive'
[15:03]  * BluesKaj and wife are an older retired couple who discovered the benefits of the internet after my retirement in '99, and it's given us something "to do" in our so called "golden years"
[15:04] <hegemon8> Guest49845: my lame way is to use vlc, but hopefully someone have better idea
[15:05] <hegemon8> and if this is mp3 or so, there was some volume normalizer command tool that i used to make my whole music collection to be at this same vevel, that makes a difference on a playlist.
[15:07] <hegemon8> BluesKaj: thats why i think its needed, but not preffered, as i'd rather update from cli instead from GUI - progress bar tells me nothing :) (i liked the way You could show details in synaptic and see the console output
[15:07] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Niiiice... Well, we are just approaching the 50 ;) good to know we can still play after that ! :D
[15:08] <Guest49845> hegemon8: thanks - do you mean phoron-vlc?
[15:09] <hegemon8> nah, just simple vlc gui let me to go to 120% and i'm quite sure it was 200% before Guest49845
[15:12] <hegemon8> Guest49845:  try http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/02/how-to-increase-volume-over-100-in-kde
[15:13] <hegemon8> should work still i guess
[15:13] <BluesKaj> hegemon8, there is a volume normaizer in vlc/tools/prefernces/audio
[15:14] <hegemon8> BluesKaj: right, but i try to think systemwise as You know, VLC is a player, and who knows what is his scenario ? :) Playing YT clips in vlc is a way, but...
[15:14] <hegemon8> Guest49845: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136185  check post no 4 there as well
[15:15] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, congrats, you and wife look much younger than 50 :-)
[15:16] <hegemon8> BluesKaj: Watching Kubu podcast today? :)
[15:17] <BluesKaj> hegemon8, agreed abou the cli and updates etc, but as a reference for different packages and their uses muon has been a good info source over the yrs
[15:17] <Guest49845> hegemon8: cheers - don't think thats plasma5 compatible?
[15:18] <hegemon8> BluesKaj: yes, totally agre.
[15:18] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Ah, that's because we behave a lot like teen-agers ;)
[15:18] <BluesKaj> hegemon8, I tried , but I'm not a dev and so far not my cuppa tea.
[15:20] <hegemon8> Guest49845: i'm pretty sure it should, as not all  kde4 stuff was ported to plasma 5 yet they're there, but its easier to remove widget then ither soft in my opinion - les hassle.
[15:20] <BluesKaj> Smurphy, wel, I hate to admit that i still play in a band at my age ;-)
[15:20] <BluesKaj> bbiab
[15:22] <hegemon8> BluesKaj: i'm not a dev myself ;( but updqates upgrades dist-upgrades autoclean autoremove and ping are always few arrows up away in my terminal, so, i lie to look to see if any "error" or so didn't pop in
[15:22] <dougiel> neither of these 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter (rev 03)
[15:22] <dougiel> 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Qualcomm Atheros AR8151 v2.0 Gigabit Ethernet (rev c0) work on my fresh install of 15.10 suggestions welcome
[15:23] <hegemon8> BluesKaj: now You need to send us a link, i want to hear :) I play with guitar, but only to relax and piss off the neighbours, so i'd love to hear it
[15:24] <Smurphy> BluesKaj: Nice ;) Well, I don't really have time for these things... Work, then I have my hobbies etc. Had to make a choice.
[15:24] <Smurphy> Maybe I'll restart music later, when time permits it again :D
[15:30] <BluesKaj_> wife wants to watch the new Prime Minister swearing in cermony here in Canada. I normally use the TV as my monitor when we aren't watching tv, so I switched to the laptop to continue.
[15:31] <hegemon8> BluesKaj_:  You have cool wife, hard to say no :)
[15:32] <hegemon8> BluesKaj_: BTW any chance to check Your band somewere on the net?
[15:33] <BluesKaj_> yeah, she's always been cool, that's why I married her :-)
[15:33] <hegemon8> Lucky B! ;)
[15:34] <BluesKaj_> hegemon8, well, some of the guys are bit shy about recording, since we're basically a jam band.
[15:35] <hegemon8> fair enough BluesKaj_ - worth asking anyway :)
[15:36] <BluesKaj_> hegemon8, Np , my previous band had a wbsite with some tunes on it , but it got taken down after we broke up
[15:37] <hegemon8> ahh, pity, my friend's band had this same issue, and after they went their own way, all the vids got lost. He had 2 fav on pc, but rest... well
[15:45] <dougiel> any ideas why no networking works on the latest and greatest 15.10?
[15:46] <dougiel> ... just not sure where to look as I have the only hardware networking does not work on?
[15:46] <BluesKaj_> dougiel, sorry which broadcom again ?
[15:47] <dougiel> you get that info with lspci right?
[15:48] <BluesKaj_> yes
[15:48] <dougiel> BCM4352 AR8151 neither work - was in a bash for my raspberry
[15:49] <dougiel> lsmod
[15:49] <ejay> Hi. How can I reset dolphins thumbs? I mean those small pictures that previews gfx files in a folder.
[15:51] <dougiel> cfg80211              484040  1 wl
[15:56] <BluesKaj_> dougiel, install broadcom-sta-common
[16:09] <parveen> hello
[16:10] <parveen> i have installed kubuntu 15.10 on my laptop. but i can't find vlc medis player on its software center. can anyone help me on this
[16:16] <hegemon8> parveen: chceck if You have Canonical Partners sources checked in Your Sources list
[16:33] <dougiel> BCM4352 AR8151 neither work - on my 15.10 install suggestions welcome... after googling it looks like I am the only one on the planet having issues
[17:21] <dougiel> BluesKaj, you have to manually config network in 15.10 I don't recall doing anything intellectual on my 14.04 but am here now
[17:21] <dougiel> 15.10 is running and I am connected via wifi
[17:54] <Towkir> anyone can help me generating a fingerprint ??
[17:55] <Smurphy> Fingferprint of what ???
[17:56] <Towkir> was trying to generate a OpenGPG fingerprint
[17:56] <Smurphy> Fingerprint ? You have a private key yet ???
[17:57] <Towkir> which is needed for signing the ubuntu code of conduct
[17:57] <Towkir> not sure
[17:57] <Towkir> how to check pls ?
[17:57] <Smurphy> Lol. Ah. Use the kgpg
[17:57] <Towkir> how is that ?
[17:57] <Smurphy> it's an application. Install it, and use it.
[17:57] <Smurphy> Got a Ui.
[17:58] <Towkir> searching :)
[17:58] <Towkir> thanks,
[17:58] <Towkir> If I fail, I will ping you Smurphy :)
[17:58] <Smurphy> lol. Do that :)
[18:13] <lolmaus> I've installed fresh 15.10 and I'm missing Actions and Compress menus in Dolphin. How do I enable them?
[18:14] <Kwaadpepper> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dolphin/+bug/1499530
[18:15] <Kwaadpepper> sudo ln -s /usr/share/kde4/servicetypes/konqpopupmenuplugin.desktop /usr/share/kservicetypes5/
[18:21] <rom1504> Hi I have this bug where icons are small when starting a session in kubuntu, it goes back to normal after a few seconds but it's annoying http://download.rom1504.fr/stuff/bugkubuntu.png
[18:21] <rom1504> any way to fix that ?
[18:21] <rom1504> it's happening since 15.10
[18:25] <marco-parillo> rom1504: I am guessing it is related to the push for better support on high-resolution displays. Some of the posters here are experienced in device driver selection (my guess on the root cause) and you can blacklist certain drivers.
[18:33] <rom1504> hmm how would I blacklist drivers ?
[18:33] <rom1504> (I'm using nvidia-352)
[18:56] <denza242> rom1504: which drivers?
[18:57] <denza242> oh
[19:54] <Voyage> Some times my skype and other GUI gets messed up. I think xorg got messed up when i sent an 'intrupt' signal by accident. How can i fix it?
[19:54] <Voyage> Kubuntu LTS, dont know about chipset but its asus z97 k board http://pastie.org/10529683
[20:09] <frecel> I posted the link to Scarlett's patreon campaign on the Linux Action Show subreddit
[20:09] <frecel> https://www.reddit.com/r/LinuxActionShow/comments/3rja1j/kubuntukde_developer_needs_your_help/
[20:09] <frecel> We should get this campaign as much visibility as possible
[20:13] <dougl> 15.10 buggy or is it may hardware?
[20:13] <dougl> my
[20:14] <Smurphy> Did you upgrade or did you do a fresh install ?
[20:16] <genii> Could be either or both
[20:18] <Smurphy> I had to practically eliminate the plasma config from 15.04 to get it working right.
[20:23] <rom1504> Smurphy: ah you do you do that ? it might solve my pb
[20:25] <LeeJunFan> Is there anywhere to get updated firefox-kde? The plasmazilla ppa is 4 versions behind.
[20:27] <newb> hi all
[20:27] <newb> can someone tell me if kubuntu works on a non-pae cpu ?
[20:29] <genii> !docs > genii
[20:30] <lordievader> newb: No, IIRC since 12.04 Ubuntu's kernels require pae.
[20:33] <newb> lordievader: ok ok. is er een manier om dat te forceren ?
[20:34] <lordievader> newb: This is an English channel, join #ubuntu-nl if you want to continue in Dutch ;)
[20:34] <TJ-> newb: is the CPU definitely non-PAE - some CPUs just don't advertise it in their flags and you can "forcepae" on the kernel command-line
[20:34] <lordievader> newb: There is a check to see if the cpu supports pae upon install of new kernels.
[20:35] <denza242> LeeJunFan: hmm
[20:44] <newb> hmm how can I check?
[20:45] <newb> sys info says .......Processor	Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU         650  @ 3.20GHz, 3200 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
[20:45] <newb> cant seem to find anything if this suka got pae
[20:45] <laci> hy
[20:50] <lordievader> newb: i5 should support pae... What kind of problems are you getting?
[20:51] <newb> lordievader: it says pae feature not present on the cpu
[20:51] <newb> lordievader: ive checked the bios but couldnt find a thing regarding pae
[20:52] <lordievader> newb: That is very odd. Where did that sys info line come from?
[20:52] <txrx> lordievader: win7
[20:53] <lordievader> newb: This is a physical install, not a vm install or anything like that?
[20:54] <newb> lordievader: no its in vm orcale vitrual box
[20:55] <lordievader> newb: Ah, that explains a lot. Is vt-x and vt-d enabled?
[20:56] <newb> lordievader: hmm checking rite now
[20:57] <newb> lordievader: solved!!! you r the man thx..installing as we speak
[20:57] <lordievader> newb: Cool, good to hear.
[22:36] <robr> Hello
[22:36] <robr> I would like to know how to go about checking what is causing my HDD to fill up so fast
[22:43] <Fritigern> robr: First us filelight or K$DirStat to find out which failes/folders are the largest on your system.
[22:44] <Fritigern> Sorry, fast typing.... the second program is called K4Dirstat
[22:45]  * keithzg give three cheers for Filelight, one of the most useful GUI programs of all time
[22:50] <denza242> robr: Filelight is your best bet
[22:50]  * denza242 cheers with keithzg
[22:56] <denza242> what does this mean W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/vivid-updates/universe/binary-i386/Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[22:56]  * denza242 scared
[22:57] <Fritigern> I prefer k4dirstat myself, because I don't care for that pie chart in filelight, and I also like having a tree menu that I can navigate besides the graphical depiction of the file/directory sizes.
[22:58] <denza242> what about fsview then
[22:58] <Fritigern> Hash sum mismatch most likely means that the transferred file got corrupt. Either on the server, during transfer, or on your own PC.
[22:59] <Fritigern> I haven;t used fsview, I will see iif i can install it
[22:59] <Fritigern> Doesn't seem to be in the (wily) repos.
[22:59] <genii> !info fsview
[23:00] <genii> !info fsview vivid
[23:00] <genii> Hm
[23:01] <Fritigern> fsview appears to have last been part of precise
[23:02] <denza242> weird
[23:02] <denza242> i have fsview
[23:02] <Fritigern> Prolly from some PPA, or perhaps you decline the removal of packages after an upgrade?
[23:02] <Fritigern> (release upgrade, that is)
[23:04] <denza242> actually, i think it's part of another package
[23:04] <denza242> since I have /usr/bin/fsview
[23:04] <denza242> it's in konq-plugins
[23:04] <clivejo> installed by konq-plugins
[23:04] <clivejo> http://packages.ubuntu.com/wily/amd64/konq-plugins/filelist
[23:04] <denza242> ^
[23:04] <Fritigern> Wait, konq is still not dead? In spite of dolphin and rekonq?
[23:05] <bprompt_> correct
[23:08] <bprompt_> denza242:    but I believe you can use any of the konqueror plugins in rekonq anyway
[23:21] <Fritigern> That reminds me, before Wily, I had an action menu in dolphin, but that's gone now. It used to have actions like opening a terminal at that folder, rename with krename, extract/compress, and more. All that is gone now, but is there a way I can re-add that?
[23:21]  * Fritigern is kinda set in his ways
[23:24] <Supermanintights> has anyone had performance issues in 15.10?  I'm getting regular crashes (krunner being the biggest culprit), and more than 3-4 tabs and firefox grinds to a near standstill, or at least far laggy beyond acceptable use.  Occasional typing lag as well in different apps
[23:25] <keithzg> Supermanintights: first question, which graphics drivers are you running?
[23:58] <keithzg> What's the preferred way of installing Telegram on Kubuntu? I see there are PPAs out there, but those don't seem to be official. On the other hand, the official way Telegram documents installing is to use their own installer. This all then seems complicated by how it apparently upgrades itself via an Updater app, which would seem to complicate the packaging of it . . .