[01:16] <zerothis1> nfs once worked for me but ever since trusty I can't seem to make it work. I just want to share one folder on my network to me other linuxum systems
[05:02] <mijowh> hello i've just installed lubuntu, still getting used to linux. trying to get rid of extraneous packages that came by default that are unnecessary. Why do i have both lubuntu software center and synaptic package manager? they both seem to serve the same purpose. could i just uninstall lubuntu software center? I usuallly use apt-file and apt-get anyway
[05:03] <mijowh> I don't understand why I have two different guis for package management
[05:04] <ianorlin> mijowh: lubuntu software-center is easier for new users to which synaptic could be confusing
[05:04] <ianorlin> actually synaptic doesn't take that much space up
[05:04] <ianorlin> on disk or on install
[05:04] <mijowh> so uninstalling lubuntu wont break anything?
[05:05] <mijowh> i like synaptics interface more anyway
[05:05] <ianorlin> no uninstalling lubuntu-software-center won't break anything although you shouuld problably reinstall lubuntu desktop if you want to upgrade
[05:05] <ianorlin> as that is just a metapackage
[05:06] <mijowh> uninstalling software center will remove that also?
[05:06] <mijowh> because i do plan on making use of synaptics updater
[05:08] <ianorlin> lubuntu-desktop basically is a package that gives you all the other stuff the lubunt install contains
[05:10] <mijowh> Hm. I've already removed quite a bit that I knew I wouldn't ever use and have been installing ym preferred apps. would you compare lubuntu-desktop to a package "group" (from archlinux, like the gnome group including alot of different gnome stuff) because i think i understand that
[05:12] <ianorlin> lubuntu-desktop is what is known as a metapackage and bascially has a dependecy on stuff that it brings in so say if you wanted to install this you could only install say one thing in synaptic or the command line rather than having to select each package individually
[05:14] <mijowh> I see. emacs would be another one of these metapackages then, that depends on the actual emacs packages, so that installation/removal is simpler. thanks i think i understand
[06:06] <ianorlin> yes like for the game battle for wesnoth there is one that brings in like all the core campiangs
[06:09] <mijowh> thank you for the advice, appreciate it. Maybe you could also answer me this: my desktop is extended vertically (single monitor). What I mean by this is that if i mouse to the top of the screen, it scrolls, as if the screen was taller than it actually is
[06:09] <mijowh> how can i get it to all fit?
[06:09] <mijowh> instead of having to scroll to see the tops of windows
[06:11] <ianorlin> is this not in a virtual machine?
[06:11] <mijowh> no its not
[06:11] <mijowh> ive never seen this before, but ive never used lxde before
[06:12] <mijowh> like it fits perfectly horizontally, but vertically its like theres an extra 2 inches
[06:12] <mijowh> and i have to mouse to the top or bottom to "scroll" the entire screen
[06:12] <mijowh> how do i adjust resolution? - i know, stupid question
[06:12] <mijowh> im thinking it may be video drivers
[06:12] <ianorlin> from the menu prefrences monitor settings
[06:13] <mijowh> ive been having issues with my outdated geforce 8400
[06:14] <ianorlin> mijowh: which driver are you using noveau?
[06:14] <mijowh> ah, it was screen resolution, thank you. and I'm unsure, whatever would be the default
[06:15] <mijowh> how do i check? It's embarassing asking questions that are probably so simple, but I'm new to the world of linux. been a windows only user forever
[06:15] <ianorlin> mijowh: which version of lubuntu you could try the save button if 15.04 or newer
[06:16] <mijowh> 15.10, newest version
[06:16] <ianorlin> ah yeah in menu prefrences monitor settings there sohuld be a save button
[06:17] <mijowh> under additional drivers in meu preferences, it says i am using no proprietary drivers
[06:18] <ianorlin> in the montior settings there should be a save button
[06:18] <mijowh> yes noveua
[06:18] <mijowh> yeah i saved my settings
[06:19] <mijowh> since it works ill leave as is for now, ive got a new graphics card coming in the mail. no point in messing with the driver atm
[06:19] <mijowh> thank you again
[06:21] <mijowh> now, i like to use apt-get autoremove to keep my packages clean, but I'm foreseeing an issue with some of my code that uses boost. It's the only thing on my system that needs boost, but its not a package, just an executable, so i dont imagine the package manager would be aware that boost is actually being used, and upon an autoremove, would uninstall it. Is there a way to inform the system about what libraries my app depends on, so the
[06:21] <mijowh> unless i misunderstand how packages work
[06:22] <ianorlin> mijowh: I am not expirenced with programming with boost
[06:22] <ianorlin> although I think with 15.10 I remember someone talking about it being recompiled against gcc5
[06:23] <mijowh> well, any library really doesnt need to be boost. I just noticed that any lib that doesnt have any packages that have it as a dependency will be uninstalled with apt-get autoremove
[06:23] <mijowh> my code isnt a "package", its just a compiled executable, and so i dont think the package manager will be aware of my dependency on library XYZ
[06:23] <mijowh> and will remove it thinking its not used
[06:24] <mijowh> does that make sense?
[06:26] <mijowh> i think this answers my question: http://askubuntu.com/questions/149768/mark-a-deb-package-as-used-so-its-not-suggested-for-autoremoval
[06:57] <mijowh> btw the answer to my earlier question about packaging an app was answered in #ubuntu, all i needed was this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=910717 thanks again for the help guys
[06:58] <mijowh> if anybody was also curious, idk
[10:36] <Paulo> bom dia
[10:38] <Paulo> estava aqui navegando e as paginas com criptografia estão aparecendo obsoleta,ate as de banco,o que pode ser
[19:39] <Langley> How do I get HVEC to play in Lubuntu? Adding the lubde265 repository, it 404s on the package lists
[19:41] <Langley> Oh VLC can play it, nice
[19:42] <genii> You must be on Wily, that PPA was last updated 16 weeks ago so it has up to Vivid but not yet Wily
[19:44] <Langley> VLC is fine... I just can't find it in the list of programs, when trying to set it as default for videos
[19:49] <ianorlin> Langley: in default apps for lxsession?
[19:49] <ianorlin> Langley: if you have downloaded a video file in pcmanfm the file manager try right click open with and sleect vlc and then pcmanfm will open with that file type
[20:55] <Langley> ianorlin: VLC doesn't show up in either... maybe I need to restart?
[21:01] <ianorlin> Langley: maybe log out
[21:34] <Langley> Even though I set Chromium to be the default browser, links from Pidgin still open in Firefox
[21:58] <alkisg> Hi, I'm trying to install lubuntu-desktop in a chroot and it's trying to also install unity-greeter and other unity-related stuff
[21:59] <alkisg> Those unity* packages are not installed in lubuntu normally though
[21:59] <alkisg> So I'm not sure what's going on... lubuntu-desktop recommends unity but the cd seeds blacklist it?!
[21:59] <alkisg> I'm reluctant to use --no-install-recommends in case it prevents other important packages from being pulled in
[22:00] <redwolf> alkisg, unity-greeter or lightdm-gtk-greeter
[22:00] <redwolf> unity-greeter is not included in the package list
[22:00] <alkisg> apt-get install lubuntu-desktop does pull it though
[22:00] <redwolf> try first with lubuntu-core
[22:00] <alkisg> I'm trying to find the exact dependency chain that does that
[22:00] <redwolf> but anyway that requirement is odd
[22:00] <alkisg> lubuntu-core as well, pulls unity-greeter
[22:00] <redwolf> odd
[22:01] <alkisg> It's in 14.04/armhf if it matters
[22:01] <Unit193> alkisg: apt-get install lubuntu-desktop^
[22:01] <alkisg> Thanks, trying..
[22:02] <alkisg> Unit193: the same, unity-greeter, unity-settings-daemon etc are again included there
[22:03] <Unit193> Odd, but not surprising as the Lubuntu ISO is built without recommends.  I'd install the task (lubuntu-desktop^) without recommends then.
[22:03] <alkisg> That does make sense, thank you, I'll do that after pinpointing the exact package
[22:04] <alkisg> (just out of curiosity)
[22:05] <alkisg> ..probably lightdm...
[22:06] <Unit193> alkisg: ...Actually, try both the core and desktop tasks at the same time.
[22:07] <alkisg> Yeah lightdm needs to put a Recommends: unity-greeter | kde_greeter etc | lubuntu-greeter at the end
[22:07] <alkisg> It lacks the | ubuntu-greeter
[22:07] <alkisg> *lubuntu-greeter
[22:07] <alkisg> (however that is called... checking...)
[22:08] <alkisg> lightdm-gtk-greeter
[22:08] <alkisg> So I'll install lightdm --no-install-recommends first, and check again lubuntu-desktop after that
[22:11] <alkisg> Yup, that did it. A bug report should be filed against lightdm, to save people that start with chroots/server cds to avoid unity :)
[22:11] <alkisg> *save ... from installing unity
[22:13] <alkisg> Then again, it now pulls software-properties-gtk and other packages, so I'll just use the task^ and --no-recommends variant that good Unit193 proposed to me :)
[22:16] <alkisg> Thanks a lot guys
[23:30] <Unit193> It does actually, with 'lightdm-greeter'