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| flexiondotorg | balloons, dholbach I've got a couple of questions about my UOS session later. | 10:09 |
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| flexiondotorg | I did UOS 15.05 and had some difficulty linking up with Hangouts. | 10:10 |
| flexiondotorg | Can one of you help with that? | 10:10 |
| dholbach | flexiondotorg, balloons and davidcalle should be around to help | 10:11 |
| flexiondotorg | What nearer the time? | 10:12 |
| dholbach | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS/Sessions is what it should take to set it up | 10:12 |
| dholbach | yep | 10:12 |
| flexiondotorg | dholbach, Thanks. | 10:12 |
| dholbach | if you can't get the session set up, they'll help you | 10:12 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uos-showandtell to: Track: Show & Tell | Ubuntu SDK Q and A | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22601/ubuntu-sdk-q-and-a/ | ||
| bzoltan_ | Hello all | 13:52 |
| balloons | howdy | 13:58 |
| James_Mulholland | Hi balloons! | 14:01 |
| James_Mulholland | Hi all | 14:02 |
| ahayzen | o/ | 14:02 |
| balloons | hello! | 14:03 |
| zbenjamin | hi all | 14:03 |
| core_apps_police | hi everyone ! | 14:03 |
| balloons | Any questions you have, feel free to leave them here and I'll ask them to the presenters :-) | 14:03 |
| balloons | core_apps_police, your name is so fun. I love it | 14:04 |
| bzoltan_ | https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ubuntu/tools-development | 14:04 |
| core_apps_police | QUESTION: What is happening with the design editor? I'm learning to code, and that feature was helping a lot.. | 14:05 |
| balloons | stuart gets a shoutout . . . | 14:07 |
| core_apps_police | ehehe | 14:08 |
| balloons | live demos ALWAYS go well ;p | 14:09 |
| ahayzen | hah | 14:09 |
| guy200 | LOL | 14:09 |
| ahayzen | QUESTION: What happened to Akiva's autopilot plugin for the SDK, is that still WIP ? | 14:10 |
| ahayzen | QUESTION: Which build process is now 'recommended' cmake, qmake, qmlproject etc ? | 14:11 |
| core_apps_police | I think qmake.. | 14:12 |
| core_apps_police | but is just my opinion :p | 14:12 |
| balloons | I'll ask everyone's questions after the demo, so hang tight for a few | 14:13 |
| ahayzen | hehe yeah most of the coreapps moved to cmake ages ago, i've used qmake on a few others | 14:13 |
| ahayzen | i'm sure balloons remembers the transition to cmake :') | 14:13 |
| bzoltan_ | ahayzen: I will answer the second question in a sec | 14:15 |
| ahayzen | oh sweet :-) | 14:15 |
| balloons | bzoltan_, if you look in the pad, you'll see all the questions that have been asked thus far | 14:15 |
| bzoltan_ | balloons: ohh.. nice | 14:15 |
| balloons | should you want to answer them sooner ;-0 | 14:15 |
| * ahayzen assumes there is an easy way to run QMLTestrunner from inside QtC ... | 14:16 | |
| balloons | anymore questions? now's the time to ask | 14:19 |
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| ahayzen | QUESTION: Is there ETA on convergence features like scrollbars, right click menus, global menu bar support etc appearing in the SDK ? | 14:20 |
| mhall119 | QUESTION: how will MainView work in a world where apps can have multiple windows? Will MainView still be the root component for apps, or will an app be able to have more than one MainView, each in it's own window? | 14:22 |
| ahayzen | mhall119, i had a Window { MainView {} } before that then spawned another Window from a Loader {} inside that | 14:23 |
| ahayzen | mhall119, i wonder what we would 'expect' to happen if you tried to open another Window when on a mobile device though ? | 14:24 |
| mhall119 | ahayzen: mzanetti mentioned design discussions about that yesterday | 14:27 |
| ahayzen | \o/ | 14:27 |
| mhall119 | is ActionBar in 1.3 or coming in 1.4? | 14:28 |
| zsombi | mhall119: MainView will be the main view of the apps, as its name states. Additional windows will have other root components, perhaps Window will be good enough or we'll need a dedicated one to show a modal window | 14:28 |
| zsombi | mhall119: ActionBar is 1.3 All you see presented by kalikiana is 1.3 | 14:29 |
| zsombi | mhall119: remember, 1.3 API is not frozen yet | 14:29 |
| mhall119 | zsombi: um, it's not? | 14:29 |
| ahayzen | zsombi, there is a modality property :-) http://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qml-qtquick-window-window.html#modality-prop | 14:30 |
| zsombi | ahayzen: then once Mir has it, we can use that :) | 14:30 |
| ahayzen | :-) | 14:30 |
| mhall119 | zsombi: bzoltan_: we need to have a discussion about when/why/how APIs get frozen | 14:30 |
| bzoltan_ | mhall119: no it is not | 14:30 |
| bzoltan_ | mhall119: have you read my mail about this on the ML? | 14:31 |
| mhall119 | bzoltan_: which ML? | 14:31 |
| balloons | QUESTION: What keyboard support exists right now? Can I tab between text fields, ctrl+a to select all text, etc? | 14:31 |
| balloons | arrow keys to switch between things | 14:31 |
| bzoltan_ | mhall119: https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg16138.html | 14:31 |
| zsombi | balloons: yes | 14:32 |
| zsombi | balloons: arrow kesy never switch between things :) | 14:32 |
| Sid_Payton | QUESTION: About a year ago a new text selection function for better and easier textselection was discussed and postponed. Is it back on the plate? Still a bit hard to select text on Ubuntu Touch | 14:33 |
| mhall119 | bzoltan_: thanks, reading those emails makes sense | 14:38 |
| bzoltan_ | mhall119: I was asked the same (very valid) qustions that I had to send that mail... but of course we need to talk about it. | 14:38 |
| balloons | QUESTION: Can you define seperate options for similar actions (For instance the swiping on phone and right clicking on desktop). Do these need to perform the same code or can they be different? | 14:40 |
| balloons | I hope that question makes sense | 14:40 |
| mhall119 | QUESTION: Bottom edge on desktops isn't nearly as usable as on a device, are there any designs yet for how that will converge? | 14:41 |
| mhall119 | QUESTION: Can we have an API to change the icon color for header/actionbar actions? My use case is a "mail" icon that I want to change color when there are new messages, currently I have to change the icon source | 14:42 |
| ahayzen | QUESTION: What has happened to the HUD? Maybe would could integrate Mycroft with the HUD ? | 14:45 |
| mhall119 | ahayzen: that's probably not a question for the SDK team, more for design and Unity devs | 14:46 |
| ahayzen | hehe, is it on the sdk teams radar though ;-) | 14:46 |
| balloons | No harm in planting the seed in someone's mind by asking eh? | 14:46 |
| ahayzen | exactly ;-) | 14:47 |
| mhall119 | QUESTION: The webbrowser app's convergence tabs work really well, can we bring that into the UITK for other apps to use? | 14:47 |
| mhall119 | yay designers! \o/ | 14:49 |
| James_Mulholland | mhall119 - Yes, adding a convergent tabs component is in the plan | 14:49 |
| mhall119 | thanks James_Mulholland | 14:49 |
| mhall119 | the UITK is growing up so fast :) | 14:50 |
| ahayzen | \o/ | 14:50 |
| James_Mulholland | mhall119 - no probs, I'm the one working on that so ping me if you have any subsequent questions! :) | 14:50 |
| roadmr | QUESTION: any suggested workarounds for the case where I'm using an encrypted home? (bug 1427264). Could the SDK at least detect this situation so it doesn't explode? | 14:51 |
| mhall119 | James_Mulholland: my questions will be more for those implementing it I think | 14:51 |
| mhall119 | but thanks | 14:51 |
| mhall119 | did somebody ask about Menus yet? | 14:51 |
| ahayzen | mhall119, what type of menus? | 14:52 |
| zbenjamin | kalikiana: didn't you use a encrypted home? How did you fix it?` | 14:52 |
| mhall119 | like app/window menus | 14:52 |
| faenil | ahayzen: I'm currently working on the Scrollbar implementation, feel free to contact me if you have additional questions | 14:52 |
| kalikiana | I do. I'll check, there's something in my fstab I think | 14:52 |
| ahayzen | faenil, oh cool :-) will that be automatically added to Flickable's ? | 14:52 |
| zsombi | mhall119: yes, I just said, there will be menus, context menus and app menus as well, but context menus have higher priority | 14:52 |
| James_Mulholland | And I'm working on Menus (contextual, app menus. etc) | 14:52 |
| James_Mulholland | so ping me after the session if you like! | 14:52 |
| mhall119 | thanks zsombi, bzoltan_, kalikiana, zbenjamin, Femma_A and James_Mulholland | 14:52 |
| roadmr | thanks for the session! | 14:53 |
| ahayzen | thanks guys :-) | 14:53 |
| faenil | Flickable is a QtQuick component, so we can't change that to be specific to our UI | 14:53 |
| mhall119 | James_Mulholland: any chance you're working on the HUD redesign too? :) | 14:53 |
| ahayzen | faenil, ah damn, but the UbuntuListView etc right ? | 14:53 |
| faenil | ahayzen: the current plan is to add ScrollView which will provide the scrollbars, and you just add the Flickable as ScrollView's child | 14:53 |
| ahayzen | faenil, ah awesome :-) | 14:53 |
| faenil | :) | 14:53 |
| roadmr | balloons: thanks :D :D | 14:54 |
| James_Mulholland | Thanks all! | 14:54 |
| ahayzen | faenil, i think Tim said you had been working on scrolling the head sections ? | 14:54 |
| faenil | ahayzen: yes, I did a prototype a few months ago, it's public. But timp is in charge of the productized version | 14:54 |
| James_Mulholland | mhall119 - not working on HUD Im afraid, you can check with Femma regarding current plans for UITK components though | 14:54 |
| ahayzen | faenil, ah cool, i wonder if it would fix this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1489591 | 14:55 |
| kalikiana | roadmr: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/1427264/comments/15 | 14:55 |
| mhall119 | James_Mulholland: do you know who is working on the HUD designs, or who was working on them last? | 14:55 |
| === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-uos-showandtell to: Track: Show & Tell | Ubuntu Pi Flavour Maker | Url: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22575/ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker/ | ||
| faenil | ahayzen: it surely should :) | 14:56 |
| * flexiondotorg is ready, just needs some Hangout help :-) | 14:56 | |
| ahayzen | faenil, :-) | 14:56 |
| roadmr | kalikiana: thanks, I'll try that! | 14:56 |
| flexiondotorg | balloons, Will you be setting up the Hangout on Air? | 14:57 |
| balloons | flexiondotorg, I cannot set this one up, I'm in another | 14:58 |
| balloons | However, I will get someone to help | 14:58 |
| flexiondotorg | balloons, Thanks. | 14:58 |
| flexiondotorg | nadrimajstor, Hi :-) | 14:59 |
| flexiondotorg | frecel, Hello :-) | 14:59 |
| nadrimajstor | o/ | 14:59 |
| popey | jose is on his way | 15:01 |
| flexiondotorg | popey, Thanks. | 15:01 |
| jose | flexiondotorg: ping, mind a quick PM? | 15:02 |
| flexiondotorg | Sure | 15:02 |
| _Ridgewing | http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22575/ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker/ | 15:05 |
| _Ridgewing | I can see you .. now. | 15:05 |
| frecel | I can hear you | 15:05 |
| bbrawner | I can hear and see you | 15:05 |
| frecel | and see you | 15:05 |
| RPiAwesomeness | O_O Martin does not look like I had imagined him from the Ubuntu podcast | 15:06 |
| AdamRPCS | I can see but not hear | 15:06 |
| _Ridgewing | I can see the slides, and hear you. | 15:06 |
| bbrawner | I can see the slides | 15:07 |
| RPiAwesomeness | Same | 15:07 |
| nadrimajstor | He can clearly speaks with authority... He got glasses :D | 15:07 |
| _Ridgewing | Haha ha . | 15:07 |
| AdamRPCS | I can see and hear now | 15:08 |
| justsomeone | QUESTION: would unity 8 work? | 15:10 |
| BrianLinuxing2 | Coming late to the session. | 15:11 |
| BrianLinuxing2 | Question: what approx. time for an install? | 15:11 |
| ali1234 | hi | 15:17 |
| BrianLinuxing2 | thank you, a good answer. | 15:19 |
| ali1234 | ded | 15:27 |
| _Ridgewing | Martin, lost audio | 15:27 |
| ali1234 | _Ridgewing: questions better on irc than etherpad | 15:27 |
| _Ridgewing | maybe me thou. | 15:27 |
| ali1234 | no it's dead for me too | 15:28 |
| _Ridgewing | ok | 15:28 |
| r0m1 | Dead here too | 15:28 |
| ali1234 | flexiondotorg: we can't hear you | 15:28 |
| flexiondotorg | Can anyobne here? | 15:28 |
| BrianLinuxing2 | just dropped too, whilst I was enjoying it! | 15:28 |
| ali1234 | last thing i heard was when you started talking about dd'ing the image | 15:28 |
| BrianLinuxing2 | me too | 15:29 |
| _Ridgewing | REFRESH THE PAGE should work ... | 15:29 |
| ali1234 | no it just plays the last 10 seconds when i refresh | 15:29 |
| _Ridgewing | ok | 15:29 |
| flexiondotorg | All good? | 15:29 |
| flexiondotorg | Hear me? | 15:29 |
| flexiondotorg | See me? | 15:29 |
| _Ridgewing | no sound. | 15:29 |
| ali1234 | "we create a big file either 4G 8 G or 16G" | 15:29 |
| _Ridgewing | No sound or video. | 15:29 |
| justsomeone | meh :/ | 15:30 |
| justsomeone | what happened? | 15:30 |
| ali1234 | technical difficulties | 15:30 |
| flexiondotorg | I'm being told that some people can hear me. | 15:30 |
| flexiondotorg | So, those that can't, please refresh. | 15:30 |
| BrianLinuxing2 | It is a very polished presentation, which falters as he's explaining the DD part | 15:30 |
| nadrimajstor | He is not using openwrt firmware :D | 15:30 |
| ali1234 | i refreshed like 10 times | 15:31 |
| flexiondotorg | Who here can hear me? | 15:31 |
| bbrawner | I'm not sure if it's my internet or not but I'm stuck on a loading screen | 15:31 |
| BrianLinuxing2 | Refresh didn't work for me, but will do it on the YouTube channel again. | 15:31 |
| _Ridgewing | QUESTION: Are you aware of this campaign & Did you collaborate ? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu#/ | 15:31 |
| RemixDave | Frozen at DD here. | 15:32 |
| justsomeoneagain | still doesn't work ... | 15:32 |
| justsomeoneagain | neither on youtube nor here :( | 15:32 |
| bbrawner | I refreshed and it's just loading | 15:32 |
| flexiondotorg | Sorry some of you have lost the connection. | 15:32 |
| jose | folks, there's some delay on youtube, you can blame google for that | 15:32 |
| justsomeoneagain | however, carry on, will watch it late | 15:32 |
| justsomeoneagain | *r | 15:32 |
| r0m1 | Refreshed, still stuck (same thing on the Youtube page) | 15:32 |
| * _Ridgewing clicks .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9BM20J_D0Y to no avail. | 15:32 | |
| flexiondotorg | The organiser says the stream is still live. | 15:32 |
| flexiondotorg | I'll press and come to IRc for questions is a few mins. | 15:32 |
| _Ridgewing | flexiondotorg: What distro are you using ? | 15:32 |
| ali1234 | good cos i have lots of questions | 15:33 |
| RPiAwesomeness | This will be available afterwards on YT, correct? | 15:34 |
| ali1234 | theoretically | 15:34 |
| ali1234 | it might just cut out at the same place though so who knows | 15:34 |
| RPiAwesomeness | Bothersome thing won't load for me :( | 15:34 |
| RPiAwesomeness | Oh, so it's cutting out for you too? | 15:34 |
| ali1234 | for everyone here | 15:34 |
| ali1234 | nobody has spoken up and said it works for them yet | 15:35 |
| frecel | We basically create a big file... | 15:35 |
| bbrawner | RPiAwesomeness: https://www.youtube.com/user/UbuntuOnAir/videos | 15:35 |
| RPiAwesomeness | Let's hope it works, this looks really interesting | 15:35 |
| bbrawner | Vids should be uploaded there if I'm not mistaken | 15:35 |
| * _Ridgewing goes and makes a cuppa Horlicks. suggestions ? | 15:35 | |
| * nadrimajstor off to make a cup of coffee | 15:36 | |
| BrianLinuxing | I was really enjoying that! | 15:36 |
| _Ridgewing | dpm, We're having issues with Martin's audio and video. | 15:36 |
| * _Ridgewing is Back with Horlicks. | 15:37 | |
| * _Ridgewing decides to take a sneaky peek of the rest of the slides : http://ubuntu-mate.org/slides/uos-1511/ | 15:37 | |
| dpm | thanks _Ridgewing for the heads up. Might be worth pointing it to jose, as he was hosting the hangout | 15:38 |
| jose | dpm: looks like it's the youtube lag, because everything's working fine on the HO | 15:39 |
| dpm | _Ridgewing, ^^ | 15:39 |
| dpm | thanks jose | 15:39 |
| jose | np | 15:39 |
| _Ridgewing | jose: ^ no audio & video in this hangout at moment : http://summit.ubuntu.com/uos-1511/meeting/22575/ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker/ Done. | 15:39 |
| jose | _Ridgewing: it's the lag I believe? | 15:39 |
| ali1234 | what is "the lag"? | 15:40 |
| flexiondotorg | Questions? | 15:40 |
| ali1234 | the youtube stream doesn't work for anyone at all, it just plays the last 10 seconds when you reload | 15:40 |
| RPiAwesomeness | Yup | 15:40 |
| ali1234 | flexiondotorg: YES | 15:40 |
| ali1234 | QUESTION: How much of this is automated? I missed the start... | 15:40 |
| jose | there's a lag between things are said and emitted on youtube. also, I double checked and it's your end. I opened the video and can see/hear alright. | 15:40 |
| ali1234 | jose: that is not the problem | 15:40 |
| RPiAwesomeness | Yeah, but it just plays for a few seconds & then stops playing | 15:41 |
| ali1234 | you open the video, it plays for 10 seconds then freezes | 15:41 |
| RPiAwesomeness | It just loads forever after ~10 seconds | 15:41 |
| jose | then it's a connection error | 15:41 |
| ali1234 | you refresh, it plays the same 10 seconds then freezes | 15:41 |
| RPiAwesomeness | ^ | 15:41 |
| _Ridgewing | flexiondotorg: Seems to be using some obscure ubuntu system called Mate. Oh Think Of The Children ! https://greylining.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/think-of-the-children.jpg | 15:41 |
| ali1234 | the same 10 seconds for everyone here | 15:41 |
| flexiondotorg | ali1234, It is 100% automated. | 15:41 |
| ali1234 | cool, i will definitely try it out on Xubuntu then | 15:41 |
| ali1234 | QUESTION: Do you support device tree in the Pi kernel? | 15:41 |
| flexiondotorg | ali1234, Although, if you install the optional Pi 2 software Jack needs a preseed. | 15:41 |
| jose | I'm playing it alright. it'll be recorded anyways, so you won't miss anything | 15:42 |
| ali1234 | for stuff like enabling the i2c, spi and other hardware | 15:42 |
| flexiondotorg | ali1234, Yes, device tree support is exactly the same as the Raspbian Kernel. | 15:42 |
| _Ridgewing | flexiondotorg: Where is the bug list for this project in Launchpad or git-hub ? | 15:43 |
| ali1234 | nice | 15:43 |
| flexiondotorg | So, the new Raspberry Pi Touch screen works once the approrpaite device tree is enabled. | 15:43 |
| ali1234 | QUESTION: Are you aware of LTSP on Raspberry Pi? | 15:43 |
| flexiondotorg | _Ridgewing, All in Launchpad. Althought I'm using git not bazaar for source control. | 15:43 |
| RPiAwesomeness | Yeah. Just full reloaded (Ctrl-F5) and tried opening the hangouts link. Same issue | 15:44 |
| flexiondotorg | ali1234, Yes, I am aware of LTSP on Pi. | 15:44 |
| _Ridgewing | flexiondotorg: Yes , but can I have the address to the bug-list, please ? | 15:44 |
| flexiondotorg | ali1234, However, I typically X2Go. | 15:44 |
| * _Ridgewing Wants to help-out ! | 15:44 | |
| ali1234 | did you know that they can now boot the ubuntu kernel over the network from u-boot? | 15:44 |
| flexiondotorg | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker | 15:45 |
| ali1234 | i ask because the thing preventing it was related to device tree | 15:45 |
| flexiondotorg | ali1234, Did know about u-boot. | 15:45 |
| flexiondotorg | But noth the network thing. | 15:45 |
| ali1234 | it now fully boots with only u-boot and config.txt on the sd card, nothing else | 15:45 |
| flexiondotorg | If might be possible to use uboot with berryboot to create a single image with every flavour on it. | 15:45 |
| ali1234 | don't even need berryboot | 15:46 |
| flexiondotorg | ali1234, You know you stuff. Please join the team :-) | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | you can have u-boot throw up a menu | 15:46 |
| _Ridgewing | flexiondotorg: so want your telling me from this address -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-pi-flavour-maker | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | ali1234, sadly uboot cant load the devicetree on its own though | 15:46 |
| _Ridgewing | flexiondotorg ... is that there are no bugs listed for this, as of yet ? | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | ogra_: yes it can | 15:46 |
| ogra_ | (i mean it can load it but the kernel wont accept it) | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | ogra_: we did it in raspberrypi a couple of days ago | 15:47 |
| ali1234 | oh hey the stream is back | 15:47 |
| _Ridgewing | I hear audio ! | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | ali1234, uboot can nly load the dtb from ram ... the blob loader needs to do the actual loading | 15:47 |
| flexiondotorg | _Ridgewing, Just enabled Bugs in LP :-) | 15:47 |
| _Ridgewing | ok cheers. | 15:47 |
| RPiAwesomeness | Ey, it's back now | 15:47 |
| ogra_ | elsre it will all fall back to ATAGs and peripherials wont work ... nor will dtb overlays | 15:47 |
| ali1234 | ogra_: u-boot can load the dtb from a tftp server and put it in ram. the kernel will then use it | 15:47 |
| ali1234 | it can also load the dtb from fat partition | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | not in my testing | 15:48 |
| ali1234 | in fact if you do not supply a dtb the kernel will not get past "uncompressing linux" | 15:48 |
| _Ridgewing | All we can see is the slides ! | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | it always uses ATAGs ... and broadcom confirmed to me that this isnt possible | 15:48 |
| ali1234 | what do you mean "it" | 15:48 |
| flexiondotorg | I'm going join IRC fully. ANd end the hangout. | 15:48 |
| _Ridgewing | flexiondotorg: QUESTION: Are you aware of this campaign & Did you collaborate ? https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-raspberry-pi-build-cluster-for-ubuntu#/ | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | the kernel falls back to ATAs if the dtb doesnt come from ram, preloaded by the blob loader | 15:49 |
| ali1234 | ogra_: that's not correct any more. the upstream raspi kernel no longer supports ATAGS | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | so you will boot but with degraded HW capabilities if you load it from uboot only | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | unless that changed in the last 8 weeks | 15:49 |
| ali1234 | and the dtb does not need to be loaded by the blob, u-boot can do it and it works just the same. why would it make any difference? | 15:50 |
| flexiondotorg | OK, the hangout is ended. | 15:50 |
| ali1234 | ogra_: so two days ago i tested all this and got it working | 15:50 |
| jose | 5 minutes - Q&A time! | 15:50 |
| flexiondotorg | We've got 5 mins to feild any questions. | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | ali1234, ah, i'm only taslking about the official ubuntu kernel :) which is mainline plus rpi patches | 15:50 |
| * ogra_ likes security support for his installs :) | 15:50 | |
| balloons | flexiondotorg, I missed the whole session. got a TLDR :p | 15:50 |
| ali1234 | with no dtb the kernel hangs at "uncompressing linux" and when u-boot loads a dtb it boots fine and everything works | 15:50 |
| balloons | err TLDW | 15:50 |
| flexiondotorg | _Ridgewing, Yes, was aware. Backed it. | 15:50 |
| ali1234 | ogra_: this was with a raspbian kernel and with an ubuntu kernelm they both did the same thing | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | ali1234, with broken dtb it shoudl just fall back to atags | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | it definitely does here | 15:51 |
| flexiondotorg | _Ridgewing, Even shared my Arch Linux cluster knowledged to 2x Pi 1 | 15:51 |
| ali1234 | although to be honest i do not know precisely where the ubuntu kernel came from | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | it boots fine but you end up with no /proc/device-tree | 15:51 |
| ogra_ | ali1234, it was initiated by having the official snappy rpi2 image | 15:52 |
| ali1234 | ogra_: i know that it should, and indeed it does when booting from the blob | 15:52 |
| flexiondotorg | ali1234, The current kernel provides a default DTB that works just like the default Raspbian kernel. | 15:52 |
| jose | video recording is up now in case anyone wants to re-watch! | 15:52 |
| ali1234 | but if you boot from u-boot with no dtb it hangs | 15:52 |
| flexiondotorg | ali1234, This is not using the Raspi2 kernel for Snappy in 15.10. | 15:52 |
| ogra_ | it also provides all overlay dtbs | 15:52 |
| flexiondotorg | Ubuntu Pi Flavour Maker uses a "port" of the Raspberry Pi Foundation Kernel. | 15:52 |
| ali1234 | yes, u-boot cannot do overlays | 15:52 |
| ali1234 | ogra_: can you point me to the vmlinuz of an official ubuntu kernel to test this? | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | ali1234, sure and if you boot with one that was loaded from somewhere else than ram (0x100 specifically) it will use ATAGs | 15:53 |
| flexiondotorg | Looks like we're done. | 15:53 |
| ogra_ | ali1234, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-raspi2/4.2.0-1014.21 | 15:53 |
| flexiondotorg | Thanks to everyone who attended, please do join the team if you're interested in this project. | 15:53 |
| nadrimajstor | o/ | 15:53 |
| flexiondotorg | ogra_, Thanks for all the useful info. | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | flexiondotorg, np :) | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | thanks for running that topic (i sadly had other duties during half of it) | 15:54 |
| flexiondotorg | And we're done. I hope you all enjoy the next session. | 15:54 |
| flexiondotorg | ogra_, Well, hopefully the video recorded OK and you can watch it at your leisure. | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | yeah, will do :) | 15:55 |
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| ali1234 | ogra_: what exactly are we arguing about here again? | 15:56 |
| ogra_ | ali1234, uboot cant load device trees properly and will set atags if the dtb doesnt come from ram | 15:57 |
| ali1234 | i just want to be sure :) | 15:57 |
| ali1234 | what do you mean by "come from ram" | 15:57 |
| ali1234 | you mean "was already loaded by the blob"? | 15:57 |
| ogra_ | ali1234, how about we go to #ubuntu-arm | 15:57 |
| ali1234 | sure np | 15:57 |
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| balloons | all set presenter? | 18:01 |
| LarreaMikel | Hi, no plasma mobile? | 18:13 |
| balloons | hey, it seems so. | 18:17 |
| popeyfan | ahh well, at least i can go eat before the next session :) | 18:19 |
| balloons | I went ahead and removed it from the schedule | 18:20 |
| balloons | sorry for that. I wanted to see it also, but the presenter isn't about atm | 18:20 |
| balloons | Not sure what happened | 18:20 |
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| LarreaMikel | ok, no problem ;) | 18:26 |
| ovidiu-florin | mhall119: ping | 18:48 |
| mhall119 | ovidiu-florin: pong | 18:50 |
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| ovidiu-florin | mhall119: our link: http://youtu.be/fVkGnKfavnw | 18:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | for the Kubuntu Podcast | 18:51 |
| mhall119 | ovidiu-florin: thanks, got it in summit now | 18:51 |
| ovidiu-florin | awesome | 18:51 |
| ovidiu-florin | thank you | 18:51 |
| sgclark2 | hello | 18:51 |
| ovidiu-florin | sgclark2: hello | 18:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | apparently I'm the only one here | 18:58 |
| ovidiu-florin | mhall119: can we start? | 19:00 |
| mhall119 | ovidiu-florin: whenever you're ready | 19:01 |
| sgclark2 | woohoo | 19:03 |
| mhall119 | ovidiu-florin: aaron might be in the ubports session? | 19:03 |
| ovidiu-florin | I don't know | 19:04 |
| mhall119 | he's marked as attending that one anyway | 19:04 |
| sgclark2 | Correct @ Randa :) | 19:06 |
| _Ridgewing | ovidiu-florin: Could we have English at the top of the language-chooser by default ? | 19:07 |
| sgclark2 | too late | 19:10 |
| * sgclark2 takes a month vacation | 19:11 | |
| _Ridgewing | sgclark2: Too late for what ? | 19:12 |
| sgclark2 | Over working myself in open source | 19:12 |
| sgclark2 | volunteering | 19:13 |
| _Ridgewing | ovidiu-florin: where's THE BEER ? | 19:13 |
| _Ridgewing | sgclark2: I feel for that. | 19:13 |
| frecel | I never got into using activities in KDE. I can see why some people like it but I just don't know how to use it it my workflow | 19:21 |
| * sgclark2 hides | 19:25 | |
| clivejo2 | can we clones Scarlet? | 19:26 |
| sgclark2 | lol | 19:26 |
| clivejo2 | hlaf a dozen Scarlets and Kubuntu would be amazing! | 19:26 |
| ovidiu-florin | https://www.patreon.com/sgclark?ty=c | 19:27 |
| frecel | There should be a big GET INVOLVED button on the front page of kubuntu.org that links to a wiki page with all the information about how one could help the kubuntu community | 19:27 |
| _Ridgewing | sgclark2: Oh yeah .. what's the patreon account, address ? | 19:28 |
| sgclark2 | ^ | 19:28 |
| _Ridgewing | oh , got it ! | 19:28 |
| _Ridgewing | Happy to help out with, promotion , here ! | 19:30 |
| clivejo2 | it would take me more than 20mins to download it! | 19:30 |
| * clivejo2 kicks slow internet | 19:31 | |
| sgclark2 | lol last minutes | 19:32 |
| ahoneybun | o/ | 19:42 |
| sgclark2 | hiyas | 19:42 |
| _Ridgewing | ovidiu-florin: I just thought of another outlet for 16.04 . How about distro-watch ... ?? | 19:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | _Ridgewing: what about it? | 19:45 |
| _Ridgewing | ovidiu-florin: It's just another "softpedia", that I need to contact. | 19:46 |
| ovidiu-florin | what about distro-watch? | 19:50 |
| ovidiu-florin | _Ridgewing: ^ | 19:50 |
| _Ridgewing | In the last podcast, yesterday . I was put in charge of self-propotion for Kubuntu (i.e. contacting softpedia etc) . Distrowatch is another outlet that I need to contect to keep their page for Kubuntu updated , Ok ? | 19:51 |
| valorie | sounds good, _Ridgewing | 19:53 |
| _Ridgewing | Yeps. | 19:53 |
| _Ridgewing | Thanks. | 19:53 |
| valorie | I've been listening at my other computer while cooking and eating. :-) | 19:53 |
| sgclark2 | Need to add my new backports to website :) | 19:53 |
| * ahoneybun works on that | 19:55 | |
| _Ridgewing | Here's a good Show-and-tell , be sure to subscribe ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73YRk9P9l9Y | 19:55 |
| valorie | amen! report bugs | 19:55 |
| valorie | very important contribution | 19:56 |
| ahoneybun | ovidiu-florin: https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Artwork | 19:56 |
| ahoneybun | he made those awesome cards too | 19:56 |
| _Ridgewing | ovidiu-florin: http://imgur.com/Wjn1cvc | 19:56 |
| _Ridgewing | Also here: Album http://imgur.com/a/ZRjjz | 19:57 |
| _Ridgewing | I hate the bot ! | 19:58 |
| _Ridgewing | Here's the video: https://youtu.be/fVkGnKfavnw | 19:59 |
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| _Ridgewing | Great video ..) | 20:01 |
| _Ridgewing | :) | 20:01 |
| ovidiu-florin | thank you | 20:01 |
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