[02:07] test [02:07] Pass === bluuu is now known as Guest4620 === ubott2 is now known as ubottu === shortstraw9 is now known as shortstraw8 === balkamos_ is now known as balkamos [09:26] hi, are there any plans to integrate the Application Finder into Whisker? [09:29] ewet: not that I know of [09:30] I assume you mean for launching things [09:31] yes [09:33] the one thing I often run app finder for was root thunar - just made a new menu item for it [09:50] How long does the LTS have before 16? [09:55] !lts [09:55] LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Xubuntu will be supported for 3 years. The current LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) [09:58] indeed [11:52] It seems 15 was a little more responsive on boot/shutdown [11:52] than LTS [11:53] But, since I like to be left alone.. I'm staying LTS [11:53] Nothing else seemed different enough [12:16] Abiword and Gnumeric were removed in 15.10, right? [12:17] sim642: Not installed by default, yep. [12:21] right, I have a friend who supposedly installed 15.10 and had them not libreoffice [12:21] Hah. [12:22] Good morning everyone =) [12:23] knob: Hey there. [12:23] How's it going krytarik ? [12:24] knob: Quite nice, but we have -offtopic too. :) [12:25] Super. I'll head over there. =) [12:25] \o/ === flocculant is now known as Guest55094 === Guest55094 is now known as flocculant [15:38] I've freshly installed Xbuntu 15.10 and after that installed dolphin and kate, but I don't have any folder or file icons in dolphin or the menus in both. [15:48] behalebabo, you don't have an icon pack, most likely. [15:48] Probably need the "oxygen" one. [15:49] Or, configure the programs to take "humanity" or whatever else is already there. [15:49] I have oxygen-icon-theme installed [15:50] You do have folders in ~ don't you? [15:50] yes [15:51] I don't have either installed... try looking at the preferences though. [15:52] See if there's a setting or a few that need to be tweaked. Remember, this isn't what most ppl will install, so maybe an additional package with settings that they depend upon is missing. (Just a thought). [15:54] otoh, apps should probably depend on themes if they need them (or at least recommend them if they have no icons without them) [15:55] but that's not really something xubuntu can do for dolphin/kate [15:55] I noticed this in the output of kwrite: 'QXcbWindow: Unhandled client message: "_GTK_LOAD_ICONTHEMES"' [16:05] behalebabo, the package qt4-qtconfig might help [16:11] behalebabo, is Thunar or Mousepad not good enough? [16:11] behalebabo, is Thunar or Mousepad not good enough? [16:11] I find they work quite well. [16:11] I can always fall back to other programs, but I like Kate, and use Kdevelop too. [16:12] behalebabo, just realize that you are then using two toolkits, which will slow down the system [16:12] kdevelop doesn't appear to have the problem though [16:12] but of course if you are using qt anyway... then it doesn't matter that much [16:13] or "at all" really [16:13] behalebabo, you should look into using something like LxQt. [16:13] I have done this in 15.04 and 12.10, only after upgrading to 15.10 from 15.04 did it stop working. [16:13] I see. [16:16] Ah, I found the answer: XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=KDE [16:17] Thanks for your help [16:17] there are likely problematic issues with that, but however you like... [16:17] i mean obviously you can only select one. [16:17] knome: I assume you do some blending of KDE and Gnome yourself by your name. [16:18] JohnnyComeL8ly, nope. [16:18] What does that name come from? [16:18] something completely different, which is not really topic for this channel :) [16:19] K. [19:32] Hello, I have problem with xUbuntu. [19:32] http://askubuntu.com/questions/693181/no-mouse-pointer-at-second-monitor-xubuntu-lts-14-04-3-xfce-4-10-newest-f [19:32] Any person wants to help me? [20:21] Help needed... http://askubuntu.com/questions/693181/no-mouse-pointer-at-second-monitor-xubuntu-lts-14-04-3-xfce-4-10-newest-f [20:21] xNear, not a solution, but you could make sure that file is removed on every boot... [20:41] * m3n3chm0 nasZ [20:41] m3n3chm0, yes? [20:42] night¡¡ [20:52] m3n3chm0, if you don't have a question, please don't repeat it on this channel as it will mean many people will need to check out the channel activity - this channel is for support, not chat [20:58] hi guys [20:59] can anyone tell me how to prevent lightdm or whatever script it runs from completely deleting my xorg.conf and replacing it with a broken one? [20:59] in the newest xubuntu [20:59] brilliant idea, by the way [21:00] great attitude, by the way [21:00] I'm not saying it's yours [21:01] you are implying it's a "decision"/idea [21:01] you know better... [21:02] yeah, it just "happened" [21:02] someone had a bug to fix, and fixed it that way [21:02] regressions can happen [21:02] and someone else accepted the patch [21:03] and deshipu didn't help us test the ISO :( [21:03] or are you sayying that the file is getting replaced with a badly autogenerated one by accident? [21:03] no. i'm saying that bugs aren't introduced on purpose. [21:04] sure, I bet it looked like a great idea, I'm sure of that [21:04] let's completely ignore user data and do our own thing, we know better [21:04] but I'm not going to discuss the *buntu development practices [21:05] deshipu: you appear to know what's wrong - so the way to deal with it is propose the fix - not here of course - we don't have any control over lightdm [21:05] I'm just wondering if anybody in here hada similar problem or has any pointers as to which script may actually be doing that [21:05] flocculant: I know what is wrong, there is just 1000 places where they might have hidden that [21:05] doesn't read like that - just reads like a sarcastic whine [21:06] flocculant: that may be caused by my agitated state of mind [21:06] sorry for that [21:08] deshipu, let me assure you - i haven't heard of any change that would touch xorg.conf [21:09] deshipu, and i also haven't heard anybody report this issue before... [21:11] * flocculant neither [21:12] well, it is happening, and I'm pretty sure I didn't add such a thing [21:12] there was bug 1310489 [21:12] bug 1310489 in Linux Mint "xorg.conf overwritten by booting system" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1310489 [21:12] sorry, nop browser without X [21:12] then write it down and look another time [21:15] Anyone know what became of https://launchpad.net/xfce4-keyboard-overlay ? [21:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Quantal/KeyboardShortcutsOverlay [21:17] knome: I know, but... [21:17] It was put on hold for now, think the idea was to use Vala as it'd be snappier to pop up. I could be wrong of course. [21:17] This file deletes too monitor configurations. It would force me to configure every time monitor settings... Its weird. [21:17] Unit193: Anything ever pop up for a Vala version/ [21:17] ? [21:20] ok, if anybody has a similar problem, disabling gpu-manager in the configuration doesn't work, you have to actually delete the executable [21:22] vidplace7: No, other projects like mugshot, catfish, gtk-theme-config took precedence, wasn't clear there was a real need for the overlay. [21:23] Unit193: I'm working on a project that's effectively a specialized version of Xubuntu with tweaks to run very well on ChromeBooks. [21:23] We rewrite a ton of shortcut keys because the function buttons are media keys instead [21:23] So we wanted to fork it and modify it, if it existed ;) [21:30] vidplace7: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-x-development [21:36] Oh cool, so there's a posibility it'll be implemented in the next 6 months :) [21:36] Not bad [21:37] vidplace7: Slight. [21:37] lol, just a low priority enhancement, aye [21:39] what are sysadmins usually using for monitoring commands users run? [22:40] If autologin is enabled, what's the 'best' way to get rid of the keyring popup when auto-connecting to wifi? [23:37] hi [23:38] hello [23:44] o.O [23:44] Walliski, hello? [23:45] Hi :P [23:45] Nice discussion with mr. xubuntu15d :P [23:45] that happens, sometimes people are lonely. [23:45] Hiiii knome. [23:46] or are reading the documentation, join the channel to ask something but find the answer in the documentation [23:46] Yeah [23:46] oh no, no that Unit193 stalker again [23:46] Heh [23:46] I would feel guilty about the stalking part [23:46] I got superliked onm tinder by a real cute girl [23:46] that's the purpose of me saying that >:) [23:46] Showed it to my friend [23:46] He swiped left [23:46] ok, now let's move onto #xubuntu-offtopic ... [23:47] :D