[02:07] <ni291187> test
[02:07] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Pass
[09:26] <ewet> hi, are there any plans to integrate the Application Finder into Whisker?
[09:29] <flocculant> ewet: not that I know of
[09:30] <flocculant> I assume you mean for launching things
[09:31] <ewet> yes
[09:33] <flocculant> the one thing I often run app finder for was root thunar - just made a new menu item for it
[09:50] <Name141> How long does the LTS have before 16?
[09:55] <well_laid_lawn> !lts
[09:58] <Name141> indeed
[11:52] <Name141> It seems 15 was a little more responsive on boot/shutdown
[11:52] <Name141> than LTS
[11:53] <Name141> But, since I like to be left alone.. I'm staying LTS
[11:53] <Name141> Nothing else seemed different enough
[12:16] <sim642> Abiword and Gnumeric were removed in 15.10, right?
[12:17] <krytarik> sim642: Not installed by default, yep.
[12:21] <sim642> right, I have a friend who supposedly installed 15.10 and had them not libreoffice
[12:21] <krytarik> Hah.
[12:22] <knob> Good morning everyone =)
[12:23] <krytarik> knob: Hey there.
[12:23] <knob> How's it going krytarik ?
[12:24] <krytarik> knob: Quite nice, but we have -offtopic too. :)
[12:25] <knob> Super.  I'll head over there. =)
[12:25] <krytarik> \o/
[15:38] <behalebabo> I've freshly installed Xbuntu 15.10 and after that installed dolphin and kate, but I don't have any folder or file icons in dolphin or the menus in both.
[15:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> behalebabo, you don't have an icon pack, most likely.
[15:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Probably need the "oxygen" one.
[15:49] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Or, configure the programs to take "humanity" or whatever else is already there.
[15:49] <behalebabo> I have oxygen-icon-theme installed
[15:50] <JohnnyComeL8ly> You do have folders in ~ don't you?
[15:50] <behalebabo> yes
[15:51] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I don't have either installed... try looking at the preferences though.
[15:52] <JohnnyComeL8ly> See if there's a setting or a few that need to be tweaked.  Remember, this isn't what most ppl will install, so maybe an additional package with settings that they depend upon is missing. (Just a thought).
[15:54] <knome> otoh, apps should probably depend on themes if they need them (or at least recommend them if they have no icons without them)
[15:55] <knome> but that's not really something xubuntu can do for dolphin/kate
[15:55] <behalebabo> I noticed this in the output of kwrite: 'QXcbWindow: Unhandled client message: "_GTK_LOAD_ICONTHEMES"'
[16:05] <knome> behalebabo, the package qt4-qtconfig might help
[16:11] <JohnnyComeL8ly> behalebabo, is Thunar or Mousepad not good enough?
[16:11] <JohnnyComeL8ly> behalebabo, is Thunar or Mousepad not good enough?
[16:11] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I find they work quite well.
[16:11] <behalebabo> I can always fall back to other programs, but I like Kate, and use Kdevelop too.
[16:12] <knome> behalebabo, just realize that you are then using two toolkits, which will slow down the system
[16:12] <behalebabo> kdevelop doesn't appear to have the problem though
[16:12] <knome> but of course if you are using qt anyway... then it doesn't matter that much
[16:13] <knome> or "at all" really
[16:13] <JohnnyComeL8ly> behalebabo, you should look into using something like LxQt.
[16:13] <behalebabo> I have done this in 15.04 and 12.10, only after upgrading to 15.10 from 15.04 did it stop working.
[16:13] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I see.
[16:16] <behalebabo> Ah, I found the answer: XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP=KDE
[16:17] <behalebabo> Thanks for your help
[16:17] <knome> there are likely problematic issues with that, but however you like...
[16:17] <knome> i mean obviously you can only select one.
[16:17] <JohnnyComeL8ly> knome: I assume you do some blending of KDE and Gnome yourself by your name.
[16:18] <knome> JohnnyComeL8ly, nope.
[16:18] <JohnnyComeL8ly> What does that name come from?
[16:18] <knome> something completely different, which is not really topic for this channel :)
[16:19] <JohnnyComeL8ly> K.
[19:32] <xNear> Hello, I have problem with xUbuntu.
[19:32] <xNear> http://askubuntu.com/questions/693181/no-mouse-pointer-at-second-monitor-xubuntu-lts-14-04-3-xfce-4-10-newest-f
[19:32] <xNear> Any person wants to help me?
[20:21] <xNear> Help needed... http://askubuntu.com/questions/693181/no-mouse-pointer-at-second-monitor-xubuntu-lts-14-04-3-xfce-4-10-newest-f
[20:21] <knome> xNear, not a solution, but you could make sure that file is removed on every boot...
[20:41]  * m3n3chm0 nasZ
[20:41] <knome> m3n3chm0, yes?
[20:42] <m3n3chm0> night¡¡
[20:52] <knome> m3n3chm0, if you don't have a question, please don't repeat it on this channel as it will mean many people will need to check out the channel activity - this channel is for support, not chat
[20:58] <deshipu> hi guys
[20:59] <deshipu> can anyone tell me how to prevent lightdm or whatever script it runs from completely deleting my xorg.conf and replacing it with a broken one?
[20:59] <deshipu> in the newest xubuntu
[20:59] <deshipu> brilliant idea, by the way
[21:00] <knome> great attitude, by the way
[21:00] <deshipu> I'm not saying it's yours
[21:01] <knome> you are implying it's a "decision"/idea
[21:01] <knome> you know better...
[21:02] <deshipu> yeah, it just "happened"
[21:02] <deshipu> someone had a bug to fix, and fixed it that way
[21:02] <knome> regressions can happen
[21:02] <deshipu> and someone else accepted the patch
[21:03] <knome> and deshipu didn't help us test the ISO :(
[21:03] <deshipu> or are you sayying that the file is getting replaced with a badly autogenerated one by accident?
[21:03] <knome> no. i'm saying that bugs aren't introduced on purpose.
[21:04] <deshipu> sure, I bet it looked like a great idea, I'm sure of that
[21:04] <deshipu> let's completely ignore user data and do our own thing, we know better
[21:04] <deshipu> but I'm not going to discuss the *buntu development practices
[21:05] <flocculant> deshipu: you appear to know what's wrong - so the way to deal with it is propose the fix - not here of course - we don't have any control over lightdm
[21:05] <deshipu> I'm just wondering if anybody in here hada similar problem or has any pointers as to which script may actually be doing that
[21:05] <deshipu> flocculant: I know what is wrong, there is just 1000 places where they might have hidden that
[21:05] <flocculant> doesn't read like that - just reads like a sarcastic whine
[21:06] <deshipu> flocculant: that may be caused by my agitated state of mind
[21:06] <deshipu> sorry for that
[21:08] <knome> deshipu, let me assure you - i haven't heard of any change that would touch xorg.conf
[21:09] <knome> deshipu, and i also haven't heard anybody report this issue before...
[21:11]  * flocculant neither
[21:12] <deshipu> well, it is happening, and I'm pretty sure I didn't add such a thing
[21:12] <flocculant> there was bug 1310489
[21:12] <deshipu> sorry, nop browser without X
[21:12] <flocculant> then write it down and look another time
[21:15] <vidplace7> Anyone know what became of https://launchpad.net/xfce4-keyboard-overlay ?
[21:17] <vidplace7> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Quantal/KeyboardShortcutsOverlay
[21:17] <xNear> knome: I know, but...
[21:17] <Unit193> It was put on hold for now, think the idea was to use Vala as it'd be snappier to pop up.  I could be wrong of course.
[21:17] <xNear> This file deletes too monitor configurations. It would force me to configure every time monitor settings... Its weird.
[21:17] <vidplace7> Unit193: Anything ever pop up for a Vala version/
[21:17] <vidplace7> ?
[21:20] <deshipu> ok, if anybody has a similar problem, disabling gpu-manager in the configuration doesn't work, you have to actually delete the executable
[21:22] <Unit193> vidplace7: No, other projects like mugshot, catfish, gtk-theme-config took precedence, wasn't clear there was a real need for the overlay.
[21:23] <vidplace7> Unit193: I'm working on a project that's effectively a specialized version of Xubuntu with tweaks to run very well on ChromeBooks.
[21:23] <vidplace7> We rewrite a ton of shortcut keys because the function buttons are media keys instead
[21:23] <vidplace7> So we wanted to fork it and modify it, if it existed ;)
[21:30] <Unit193> vidplace7: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-x-development
[21:36] <vidplace7> Oh cool, so there's a posibility it'll be implemented in the next 6 months :)
[21:36] <vidplace7> Not bad
[21:37] <Unit193> vidplace7: Slight.
[21:37] <vidplace7> lol, just a low priority enhancement, aye
[21:39] <ronin> what are sysadmins usually using for monitoring commands users run?
[22:40] <soreau> If autologin is enabled, what's the 'best' way to get rid of the keyring popup when auto-connecting to wifi?
[23:37] <xubuntu15d> hi
[23:38] <knome> hello
[23:44] <Walliski> o.O
[23:44] <knome> Walliski, hello?
[23:45] <Walliski> Hi :P
[23:45] <Walliski> Nice discussion with mr. xubuntu15d :P
[23:45] <knome> that happens, sometimes people are lonely.
[23:45] <Unit193> Hiiii knome.
[23:46] <knome> or are reading the documentation, join the channel to ask something but find the answer in the documentation
[23:46] <Walliski> Yeah
[23:46] <knome> oh no, no that Unit193 stalker again
[23:46] <genii> Heh
[23:46] <Walliski> I would feel guilty about the stalking part
[23:46] <Walliski> I got superliked onm tinder by a real cute girl
[23:46] <knome> that's the purpose of me saying that >:)
[23:46] <Walliski> Showed it to my friend
[23:46] <Walliski> He swiped left
[23:46] <knome> ok, now let's move onto #xubuntu-offtopic ...
[23:47] <Walliski> :D