[00:49] <xubuntu57i> hi
[01:11] <bisby> I have a Samsung Series 7 Chronos, in Ubuntu 15.04, brightness worked no questions asked out of the box. In xubuntu 15.10, I see the slider move and the values in /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/{brightness,max_brightness,actual_brightness} all change. Ive done several grub cmdline tweaks. Nothing seems to work. Is there any issues with laptop brightness in 15.10?
[02:22] <xubuntu01w> hello
[03:05] <administrator> hello?
[03:05] <Guest67171> can someone help me please. Im new to linux/ubuntu
[03:05] <Guest67171> im having issues with graphics
[04:07] <Spass_> hi, I have problem with copy&paste (by key shortcuts) in Thunar in 15.10, is this a known issue?
[04:09] <Spass_> cut&paste to be exact
[04:14] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Spass_: does this look like what you're experiencing?
[04:14] <JohnnyComeL8ly> https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11450#c108
[04:21] <Spass_> yes similar, but I get something like this http://pastebin.com/GCUz2dsW
[04:23] <Spass_> now I use Thunar 1.6.10, on xubuntu 15.04 I did't have this problem
[04:27] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I'm using the same version, let me try to replicate this issue.
[04:29] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Spass_, I just copied, using ^C and ^V, a 227 byte Minetest debug.txt
[04:29] <JohnnyComeL8ly> What size of file are you using?
[04:29] <Spass_> I think it crashes mostly when Cut
[04:30] <Spass_> when using keyboard shortcuts
[04:30] <Spass_> file is about 200kB
[04:31] <Spass_> it's a PDF with thumbnail
[04:32] <Spass_> sometimes it works ok, but it crashes very often
[04:33] <Spass_> and although it crashes, the file is moved correctly
[04:38] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I just did a cut (GUI) and paste (keyboard)
[04:44] <Spass_> on freshly opened window try cut (keyboard) and paste (keyboard)
[04:45] <Spass_> it almost always crashes in my case
[04:46] <JohnnyComeL8ly> What is the shortcut for cut?
[04:46] <Spass_> ctrl+x
[04:46] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Thx.
[04:47] <JohnnyComeL8ly> No crashes.
[04:47] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I have a 226.4 kB png
[04:47] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Close enough, I'm thinking.
[04:47] <Spass_> it must be something specific to my configuration then
[04:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Did you do a fresh install of Xubuntu 15.10 ?
[04:48] <Spass_> well, I can live with that :)
[04:48] <Spass_> nope, I've upgraded from 15.04
[04:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> VannessaE on #minetest was telling me she had issues when she upgraded.
[04:49] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I've not noticed any issues, but it is just a point for consideration.
[04:49] <Spass_> I'm thinking about fresh install, because I sterted with Ubuntu, then I installed Xubuntu desktop, then upgraded to 15.10, so...
[04:50] <Spass_> *started
[04:50] <Spass_> it's a mess under the hood I think :/
[04:54] <Spass_> ok, I'll keep an eye on this problem, maybe I will learn something new. With fresh install I'll wait till new LTS
[04:54] <Spass_> thanks for help and testing Johnny
[04:56] <JohnnyComeL8ly> You are welcome.  Goodnight. :-)
[04:56] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Yeah, a mess is what I'm thinking you have.
[04:57] <Spass_> sad but true :)
[12:32] <Multivac3> anybody out there?
[12:32] <flocculant> !ask | Multivac3
[12:33] <Multivac3> anybody had problems with the AMD Radeon drivers in xfce
[12:34] <knome> Multivac3, just describe your own problem...
[12:35] <Multivac3> seems after installing the oem drivers they fall over on reboot
[15:18] <w30> How do you get xrdp (graphic login) working for rdesktop? remote desktop.
[15:20] <w30> all the icons are in /usr/share/xrdp but no avail. xrdp is inabled as a service, what else needs to be done?
[15:42] <Walliski> What is the problem?
[15:43] <JohnnyComeL8ly> w30: ^^
[15:43] <w30> Walliski, I don't get the xrdp login gui in rdesktop with xrdp installed
[15:45] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I only tried once to do all that stuff... I didn't succeed.
[15:45] <w30> a gui box with password and user name places
[15:46] <w30> there is a couple of utube videos that shows it working but not how...
[15:46] <JohnnyComeL8ly> But, that's where I failed.... You have to suck and suck and suck until you suck-a-seed (succeed).
[15:47] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Yeah, those people aren't very helpful.
[15:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I got that from a farmer (Joel Salatin), who got it from his dad.
[15:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> that=saying
[15:48] <w30> yeah, vaccuum cleaners suck also  but they are supposed to
[15:48] <JohnnyComeL8ly> lol
[15:49] <JohnnyComeL8ly> We aren't supposed to when configuring programs - gotcha.
[15:49] <JohnnyComeL8ly> ;-)
[15:50] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I think it happens to everyone a few times (a week maybe?) depending on how treacherous the digital slope of accomplishment is.
[15:53] <w30> a billion lines of code can't all be right.
[15:53] <w30> gotta have a few turds laying around.
[15:53] <JohnnyComeL8ly> rofl
[15:54] <w30> any way; I hope someone fixes it.
[15:55] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Idk what exactly you are experiencing, so theirs an even slimmer chance that a dev (who hasn't time for vague issues) to fix *it*.
[15:56] <JohnnyComeL8ly> (You haven't really given much to work with.)
[15:59] <w30> xrdp is supposed to launch a window inside the rdesktop window to graphically present a user and password type in box to send rdesktop to the correct computer. rdesktop itself accepts -u <user> and -p <password> flags on the command line invokation.
[16:01] <w30> rdesktop works as advertised, it's the xrdp that does not appear in the remote desktop box if you don't put in the flags.
[16:03] <w30> http://imgur.com/33pnTAG
[16:08] <w30> it's the grey box that needs to appear if xrdp daemon is running. (I think)
[16:09] <w30> the picture is a utube user, not me.
[17:06] <JohnnyComeL8ly> w30, I was gonna say, looks like it is working, but then I read further.  I don't know much about that.  You should see if there is a remote desktop focused channel, or go to #xrdp on freenode (same network)
[17:08] <JohnnyComeL8ly> w30: Dude, join #xrdp
[17:08] <JohnnyComeL8ly> I can't help you more than that.
[17:08] <Baromor> Hello :) I'd need some help if possible
[17:10] <Baromor> I wanted to try out Linux out of curiosity (always been a Windows user) so I booted Xubuntu on a virtual disk drive. Is it normal I only have one screen resolution available? When I tpe Xrandr it only shows "
[17:10] <Baromor> "xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 480"
[17:11] <JohnnyComeL8ly> Baromor: I'm not sure but it sounds like you're using a VM, is that right?
[17:51] <xubuntu94d> hi
[17:51] <xubuntu94d> is this telepathy chat ?
[17:53] <flocculant> !ask | xubuntu94d
[17:53] <xubuntu94d> how do  I tell which xubuntu is on my computer?
[17:55] <flocculant> lsb_release -r in a terminal, help from the menu will tell you what help files you have - that should tell you too
[17:55] <xubuntu94d> thank you
[17:57] <xubuntu94d> ok it says  15;10,  is that the most recent  xubuntu  ?
[17:57] <krytarik> !15.10
[17:58] <xubuntu94d> thanks again and have a great day
[18:15] <knob> Hey guys.  I want to add an internal hdd to my machine.  I am using full-disk encryption on the main hdd.  Can somebody provide some direction as to how to add a full-disk encrypted hdd?
[18:19] <kozukumi> hello, i have an issue with wifi not working after resuming from suspend (15.10). a copy of journalctl is here http://pastebin.com/2Ndc3W70
[18:40] <knob> Hello again... referencing the above question (full disk-encryption for an additional hdd).  Is it possible to enter the key at system startup?
[18:41] <JohnnyComeL8ly> kozukumi: it looks like you might have turned off your WiFi through a switch on the side of your PC... maybe check  rfkill list wifi  for whether or not it is blocked.  Soft block is software blocking, and hard block is a physical switch you can toggle.
[18:41] <knob> Like the current OS' full disk-encryption setup?
[18:41] <JohnnyComeL8ly> knob, I haven't done anythink like that.
[18:42] <knob> JohnnyComeL8ly, thanks.  I ask because on the inital Xubuntu setup, I did full-disk encrpt.  And all is good.  Yet now I want to add an internal hdd to the machine, yet have it encrypted.  Not sure how to go about it.
[18:43] <JohnnyComeL8ly> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FullDiskEncryptionHowto
[18:43] <JohnnyComeL8ly> knob, that might help.
[18:43] <knob> On my way... thanks JohnnyComeL8ly !
[18:43] <JohnnyComeL8ly> You might have to change it a bit. You're welcome!
[18:55] <kozukumi> why do i not have permission to delete items in menulibre?
[18:56] <kozukumi> i cant find a way to edit the menu to my liking??
[19:13] <kozukumi> i cant for the life of me work out how to edit the damn application menu :(
[19:13] <flocculant> was just looking at that kozukumi
[19:13] <kozukumi> im so confused lol
[19:14] <flocculant> not going to be able to answer why you can't delete items - at least you can delete ones you created, just not others
[19:14] <kozukumi> yup
[19:14] <flocculant> mmm
[19:15] <flocculant> it won't run as root - it does appear to let you delete items IF you move them first
[19:16] <flocculant> nope
[19:16] <kozukumi> a bug?
[19:18] <flocculant> perhaps so - report it ubuntu-bug menulibre and link me it
[19:19] <kozukumi> ubuntu-bug?
[19:19] <kozukumi> a site?
[19:20] <flocculant> sorry - run that in a terminal, it collects what's needed then starts launchpad in browser
[19:20] <flocculant> then once it has finished processing things - you can fill in details
[19:21] <kozukumi> ok doing it
[19:23] <kozukumi> processing on the website
[19:25] <kozukumi> flocculant, sent you a dm
[19:26] <flocculant> yep - not a problem linking bug numbers in here :)
[19:27] <flocculant> ok - added a couple of tags and confirmed it
[19:29] <flocculant> and a comment
[19:29] <flocculant> kozukumi: thanks for reporting it :)
[19:29] <kozukumi> thanks for helping me :)
[19:29] <kozukumi> i am LOVING xubuntu btw
[19:30] <flocculant> \o/
[19:34] <krytarik> kozukumi, flocculant: This? - https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?pid=33094#p33094
[19:34] <flocculant> krytarik: I know you can hide things :)
[19:36] <flocculant> kozukumi might not - and I might have been a bit literal in answering ;)
[19:41] <kozukumi> yeah it just seems so buggy. i have sublime text installed and it is in the development group but i want to move it to office, which i have done, but it doesnt change groups??
[19:42] <kozukumi> but it DOES change the application menu in the right click on desktop menu
[19:42] <kozukumi> ???
[19:43] <flocculant> kozukumi: go to the entry for sublime in dev group - in the bottom right pane - select dev and then remove with the - button
[19:44] <kozukumi> i did that, it comes back when i press save
[19:44] <kozukumi> lol
[19:44] <flocculant> then with the + button- double click on the new Select a category > select office >office then save
[19:45] <kozukumi> did that, doesnt appear
[19:45] <kozukumi> i will try logging out and in and see if that does anything
[19:45] <knome> kozukumi, see the bug, i commented there, unaware that you were talking about it here
[19:45] <knome> if you can answer those questions, it might help with debugging
[19:45] <flocculant> I just moved geany out of dev into system - out of system into dev - and it moved every time
[19:45] <flocculant> bah - gone ...
[19:45] <knome> kozukumi, see the bug, i commented there, unaware that you were talking about it here
[19:46] <kozukumi> omg logout fixed it
[19:46] <knome> if you can answer those questions, it might help with debugging
[19:46] <knome> aha
[19:46] <flocculant> I just moved geany out of dev into system - out of system into dev - and it moved every time
[19:46] <flocculant> without logging out :p
[19:46] <flocculant> knome: bug 1444668 ?
[19:47] <flocculant> because you commented there - but not here :p
[19:47] <flocculant> still the not being able to delete an entry remains - might be by design ofc
[19:47] <knome> flocculant, the reason why i thought this was known originally was bug 1307002
[19:48] <knome> no, you should always be able to remove an entry
[19:48] <flocculant> I did see that pme
[19:48] <flocculant> sigh s/pme/one
[19:48] <knome> though on some occasions "deleting" might mean creating a .desktop file that overrides the system one, efficiently just hiding the item...
[19:48] <flocculant> effectively
[19:49] <knome> flocculant, bug 1513590
[19:49] <knome> yes, effectively...
[19:49] <flocculant> thought so - just making sure
[19:49] <flocculant> knome: yea - that's the bug kozukumi just created and I commented on :)
[19:49] <kozukumi> right im gonna test my wifi suspend issue now
[19:49] <kozukumi> cheers all, i will be back :)
[19:49] <knome> flocculant, and i then commented on it
[19:50] <flocculant> oh - didn't look :p
[19:50] <knome> kozukumi, would help if you commented on the bug that logging out helped workaround the bug
[19:50] <knome> if you didn't already..
[19:50] <kozukumi> yeah i will update in a minute
[19:50] <knome> thanks
[19:51] <knome> also if you can answer my questions on the comments, great
[19:51] <flocculant> commented
[19:51] <kozukumi> ah good looks like i managed to fix the suspend bug :)
[19:52] <kozukumi> god i love how fast this thing boots :)
[23:04] <xubuntu10w> hey folks, tech support okay on this channel? I've got a minor issue with 15.10
[23:05] <pleia2> xubuntu10w: yes, that's what this channel is for :) ask away!
[23:06] <xubuntu10w> Cool! Im having an issue I believe is related to light-dm. On bootup, after being greeted by the login prompt, my screen blinks a few times. Havnt noticed it anywhere else in the OS.
[23:07] <xubuntu10w> I've tested on multiple hardware configurations and multiple installs. Issue persists.
[23:13] <knome> xubuntu10w, so... does it just blink and then work as expected?
[23:14] <xubuntu10w> yeah, the real issue is it usually happens while inputing my password. It seems to inturrupt input so I have to reinput my password. Not a big deal but pretty annoying.
[23:15] <knome> are you using a proprietary driver for your graphics card?
[23:16] <xubuntu10w> Nope, just whataver xubuntu pulls down for intel hd 4000.
[23:17] <xubuntu10w> Other hardware I tried it on all had intel graphics as well.
[23:18] <xubuntu73w> sorry , I disconnect there.
[23:18] <xubuntu73w> *disconnected
[23:19] <xubuntu73w> I looked into downgrading light-dm but it looks like a nightmare.
[23:21] <knome> xubuntu10w, does the blinking happen fast after you see the login screen and does it take a lot of time?
[23:21] <knome> or is it like instant
[23:22] <xubuntu73w> It varies. Usually about a second or two after login appears and about 1 second in duration.
[23:22] <knome> weird
[23:23] <xubuntu73w> Somtimes the screen simply turns off and back on quickly and somtimes it flashes twice.
[23:23] <knome> maybe you should file a bug
[23:24] <xubuntu73w> Thats where I was headed next. Im a total newbie though. Where exactly on launchpad does that go?
[23:25] <knome> once you've registered a launchpad account, the easiest way to start filing the bug is to run "ubuntu-bug lightm" in the terminal
[23:26] <xubuntu73w> Ok cool, thats what I figured but I wasnt sure if xubuntu had a specific spot or if it all fell under the ubuntu flag. Thats really neat you can open from terminal. Thanks for the help.
[23:27] <knome> with bug reporting, it's all the same
[23:27] <knome> and no problem :)
[23:36] <xubuntu73w> Bug related to login screen flicker filed here for anyone interested: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1513662