[14:06] <infinitebagels> Heyt
[14:07] <infinitebagels> I just installed Lubuntu 14.04 LTS on my Thinkpad T420 and now my batterylife is shit.
[14:07] <infinitebagels> is it safe to install laptop-mode-tools?
[14:08] <infinitebagels> I'm just updating my laptop right now
[14:09] <leszek> infinitebagels: yeah you can do so
[14:10] <infinitebagels> leszek, is there any better packages for power managment for Thinkpads?
[14:12] <leszek> I am also using this on my t420 and I am quite happy about it
[14:12] <leszek> the only thing I also installed was the fan control
[14:12] <leszek> and tweaked it a little
[14:13] <infinitebagels> leszek, so just laptop-mode-tools and the fan control
[14:14] <infinitebagels> leszek, how's your battery life?
[14:14] <infinitebagels> I just made the jump from Debian Jessie to Lubuntu LTS
[14:14] <infinitebagels> I had 8+ hours before
[14:14] <leszek> Yeah around 6-8 hours
[14:16] <infinitebagel> Sorry about that
[14:16] <infinitebagel> I had a bunch of IO errors after installing system updates and not rebooting :p
[14:17] <infinitebagel> I'm getting sh: echo: I/O Error
[14:19] <infinitebagel> and google says it might be my SSD is dying... fuck me.
[14:20] <infinitebagel> leszek,
[14:21] <infinitebagel> So it seems like the setup script for laptop-mode-tools in 14.04 LTS is broken
[14:23] <infinitebagel> yep
[14:24] <infinitebagel> Scaling is working on my proccessor now
[14:24] <infinitebagel> if I find any method of squeezing more battery life out I'll write a java app to automate it for other Lubuntu users
[14:24] <infinitebagel> For anyone having sh echo io error with laptop-mode-tools, just manually do the "echo ondemand \> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[14:24] <infinitebagel> " command
[14:25] <infinitebagel> It will set the scaling to work. You might want to also sync it after.
[14:25] <hateball> infinitebagel: is this a new install, on your SSD?
[14:25] <infinitebagel> yes
[14:25] <hateball> infinitebagel: is it a samsung 8xx ssd?
[14:25] <infinitebagel> Kingston SSD Now!
[14:25] <hateball> hmmm
[14:25] <infinitebagel> 120gb
[14:25] <infinitebagel> The only samsung SSD I would buy is the 850
[14:26] <infinitebagel> I also have an ADATA 128gb MSATA in this laptop :)
[14:26] <hateball> Very well, it could have the same issue I guess. See #1 here http://www.howtoeverything.net/linux/hardware/ubuntu-freeze-issue-after-ssd-upgrade
[14:27] <infinitebagel> I'm not getting any freezing
[14:27] <infinitebagel> Only laptop-mode-tools has spat up this error
[14:28] <hateball> Yeah well, nothing bad happens if you try it. But it's up to you
[14:28] <hateball> For me, my drive would work well at times, then randomly crap out, etc
[14:29] <infinitebagel> My drive locked up hard yesterday
[14:29] <infinitebagel> I also had FDE enabled.
[14:30] <infinitebagel> Anything else I should install on my laptop? :p
[14:30] <hateball> Well, try that kernel parameter before you suffer data loss is my suggestion
[14:31] <infinitebagel> hateball, It's been working perfectly without any dataloss
[14:32] <infinitebagel> (I came from debian, from 7)
[14:34] <infinitebagel> either way I'm not worried about dataloss, the issue only arose with laptop-mode-tools
[14:34] <infinitebagel> I'll try installing another package and seeing
[14:40] <infinitebagel> no error
[22:52] <Dirkson> Hey all. I have a lubuntu 13.whatever computer in front of me. How do I upgrade to a more recent version of lubuntu?
[22:53] <Unit193> !eolupgrades
[22:53] <ubottu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[22:58] <Dirkson> Unit193: Thanks for the link. There's a lot of fluff on that page, and it leaves some crucial information out - Is it telling me to upgrade the kernel specifically, reboot, (Although it doesn't mention that) then do a dist-upgrade and a do-release-upgrade?
[22:59] <Unit193> I didn't check myself recently, I'd guess sed on sources.list until you get to 14.04, then do-release-upgrade unless you want to stick on LTS.
[23:00] <Unit193> Personally, I'd try to clean up afterwards too.
[23:02] <Dirkson> Unit193: The linked page definitely doesn't suggest any manual sources.list changes
[23:02] <Unit193> dpkg-query -W -f='${Conffiles}\n' | grep obso  to see obsolete files,  apt list | grep installed,loc  to see packages installed locally but no longer downloadable, and then deborphans to check and see what some packages you may be able to remove.
[23:02] <Unit193> Dirkson: Ah, I see.
[23:07] <Dirkson> Hmm. Well, dist-upgrade ain't gonna work anyway - Looks like archives.ubuntu.com dropped all the saucy stuff?
[23:07] <Unit193> Right, there's old-archive, or whatnot.
[23:10] <Dirkson> Ugh. I guess I should have dropped my own linux onto a flash drive after all. This is starting to look like a nightmare no matter how I move forward.
[23:10] <Unit193> EOL upgrades aren't exactly fun, but doable.
[23:17] <Dirkson> Unit193: You and the linked page disagree about the ubuntu way to do that, and the do-upgrade tool complains that it doesn't have enough free space (5+gb!) to do its thing. I can't just ignore the problem, since apt-get stopped working. All things considered, the system seems horrifyingly broken for something less than two years old.
[23:19] <Unit193> Dirkson: Well I stated how *I* would do it, not the Official Ubuntu method.