[07:26] <khod> anyone else have an issue adding a kit for the phone and it wont play, desktop still plays fine but nothing not even an error on the phone kit
[07:27] <khod> the phone does play if it is built on just a phone kit
[07:50] <dholbach> good morning
[07:54] <guest123124> oh boy... i can't turn on the phone :/ had at least 60% left before going to sleep
[07:56] <guest123124> yep 0% battery. wtf.. is there a way to see what process destroyed the battery overnight?
[08:33] <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~alan/screenshots/device-2015-11-06-083113.png
[08:33] <popey> getting catastrophic battery loss overnight here
[08:33] <popey> looks like mediascanner is looping
[08:34] <popey> restarting every second
[08:42] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mediascanner2/+bug/1513756
[08:58] <jibel> I've seen the same error in another report last week.
[08:59] <jibel> I cannot find the bug
[09:01] <jibel> bug 1508873
[09:02] <jibel> according to tafari's logs, it restarts 3 times per second
[09:02] <Guest42341> so guys... is there a way to detect runaway processes and eventually throttle or kill the process?
[09:02] <Guest42341> sometime mediascanner has a tendency to eat all the battery
[09:11] <popey> Guest42341, we used to have a thing which kinda did that, but it was overzealous
[09:11] <popey> Guest42341, it would detect a process doing this respawn thing, and then reboot the phone
[09:12] <popey> which could get you into a reboot loop, so we removed that
[09:12] <popey> need a more clever way to say "this thing is doing bad stuff"
[09:12] <popey> also, this only affects our stuff really, because these things are unconfined, running as system background jobs, so it's _our_ responsibility to fix them
[09:12] <Guest42341> popey, yep and maybe only apply to known bad processes :D
[09:12] <popey> hah
[09:12] <Guest42341> like mediascanner
[09:13] <popey> if we have something "known bad" then we need to fix it, not mark it "known bad" :)
[09:13] <Guest42341> yes but in the meantime :D just kill it
[09:13] <Guest42341> with fire :D
[09:13] <popey> from orbit
[09:13] <Guest42341> :D
[09:41] <slvn_> Hello ! I got a question
[09:42] <slvn_> I have a tablet Nexus 10. I used to be able to flash it with Ubuntu-Touch
[09:42] <slvn_> Does it still work with the latest version of ubuntu ?
[09:43] <slvn_> I have 10 games ported to ubuntu touch, but I have not device to test them
[09:43] <slvn_> it used to be working 1 year ago ...
[09:44] <mcphail> slvn_: I don't think it does. As far as I know, the only supported tablet just now is the 2013 Nexus 7
[09:47] <mcphail> Guest42341: not sure the overnight battery "drain" issue is definitely mediascanner. There is the added complication that Ubuntu can think there is 60% charge when the phone thinks there is 0% charge. I've been bitten by that one
[09:49] <slvn_> mcphail, ok it's a pity...  Why isn't there any "generic" image that could be flash to "any" device ... At least for developers.. We don't need alls apps but only the "base" to test our apps !
[09:50] <mcphail> slvn_: I suspect it is a case of there not being an interested dev who owns a Nexus 10 to test and maintain the image
[09:51] <mcphail> slvn_: also, I don't know what performance is like on the 10. The 2012 Nexus 7 was dropped because it wasn't up to the job
[09:54] <slvn_> mcphail,  I am interesting the Nexus 10 .... I have also a Nexus 7 2012. The Nexus 10 is fast (there is even an un-official image of android 6 running which works great). But the nexus 7 2012 is very bad (I heard of a hardware issue : memory become very slow with the age, so the tablet became almost unsuable.
[09:55] <slvn_> it's a pity. one year ago I ported my 10 games to ubuntu-touch. I tested them with my Nexus 10 but I was waiting for some new feature of ubuntu-touch (Orientation branch). Now I have time to test again but the Nexus 10 is not supported ....
[09:56] <mcphail> slvn_: *please* get a supported device. We need as many devs as possible :)
[09:58] <mcphail> slvn_: it is possible to fix orientation now, so your games may be good to go. I can help to test on my phone, if you want
[10:00] <slvn_> mcphail, that's would be great :)
[10:00] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Friday, and happy Nachos Day! 😃
[11:01] <faenil_> is there a recommended way to attach videos to bugs on LP?
[11:01] <faenil_> like, hosting service etc
[11:05] <faenil> popey maybe ^
[11:05] <popey> not really. I tend to upload mine to youtube and mark them 'unlisted'
[11:05] <popey> so they don't show in my feed, but you can click them from the bug
[11:06] <faenil> oki
[11:06] <faenil> popey: thanks
[11:06] <popey> np
[11:07] <faenil> we should really have a default flow defined for that
[11:07] <popey> heh
[11:07] <popey> you _can_ upload your mp4 to launchpad, if you want
[11:08] <faenil> popey: will anyone kick me for wasting disk space though? :D
[11:08] <popey> unlikely, we have way more crap cluttering up the place than a little video from you
[11:08] <faenil> haha
[11:08] <popey> assuming you're not uploading all the Lord Of The Rings trilogy directors cut in full HD?
[11:08] <faenil> lol
[11:09] <popey> :)
[11:09] <popey> I put it on youtube because people can stream, and not have to download the whole thing to watch maybe only the first 30 seconds they're interested in
[11:10] <popey> and because I don't trust my browser not to crap out when uploading large files to launchpad
[11:13] <faenil> hehe
[11:29] <JPT223> Hi, I am trying to port Ubuntu Touch to Galaxy Tab 3 7" SM-T210. I already merged inofficial CM11 sources and ubuntu-touch sources as explained in the tutorial. After explicitely adding  vendor/marvell to main.mk my build fails with a problem in checkpolicy:
[11:29] <JPT223> [...]phablet/out/host/linux-x86/bin/checkpolicy:  policy configuration loaded
[11:29] <JPT223> [...]phablet/out/host/linux-x86/bin/checkpolicy:  writing binary representation (version 26) to [...]phablet/out/target/product/generic/obj/ETC/sepolicy_intermediates/sepolicy
[11:29] <JPT223> Traceback (most recent call last):
[11:29] <JPT223>   File "build/tools/pull-lp-bin.py", line 100, in <module>
[11:29] <JPT223>     main()
[11:29] <JPT223>   File "build/tools/pull-lp-bin.py", line 52, in main
[11:29] <JPT223>     cachedir, version="devel")
[11:29] <JPT223>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/launchpadlib/launchpad.py", line 378, in login_anonymously
[11:30] <JPT223>     version=version)
[11:30] <JPT223>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/launchpadlib/launchpad.py", line 203, in __init__
[11:30] <JPT223>     credentials, service_root, cache, timeout, proxy_info, version)
[11:30] <JPT223>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/lazr/restfulclient/resource.py", line 488, in __init__
[11:30] <JPT223>     self._wadl = self._browser.get_wadl_application(self._root_uri)
[11:30] <JPT223>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/lazr/restfulclient/_browser.py", line 444, in get_wadl_application
[11:30] <JPT223>     response, content = self._request(url, media_type=wadl_type)
[11:30] <JPT223>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/lazr/restfulclient/_browser.py", line 387, in _request
[11:30] <JPT223>     str(url), method=method, body=data, headers=headers)
[11:30] <JPT223>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/lazr/restfulclient/_browser.py", line 357, in _request_and_retry
[11:30] <JPT223>     url, method=method, body=body, headers=headers)
[11:30] <JPT223>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/httplib2/__init__.py", line 1562, in request
[11:30] <JPT223>     (response, new_content) = self._request(conn, authority, uri, request_uri, method, body, headers, redirections, cachekey)
[11:30] <JPT223>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/launchpadlib/launchpad.py", line 131, in _request
[11:30] <JPT223>     LaunchpadOAuthAwareHttp, self)._request(*args)
[11:30] <JPT223>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/lazr/restfulclient/_browser.py", line 183, in _request
[11:30] <JPT223>     redirections, cachekey)
[11:30] <JPT223>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/httplib2/__init__.py", line 1334, in _request
[11:30] <JPT223>     (response, content) = self._conn_request(conn, request_uri, method, body, headers)
[11:30] <JPT223>   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/httplib2/__init__.py", line 1262, in _conn_request
[11:30] <JPT223>     raise ServerNotFoundError("Unable to find the server at %s" % conn.host)
[11:30] <JPT223> httplib2.ServerNotFoundError: Unable to find the server at api.launchpad.net
[11:30] <JPT223> [...]phablet/out/host/linux-x86/bin/checkpolicy:  loading policy configuration from [...]phablet/out/target/product/generic/obj/ETC/sepolicy_intermediates/policy.conf.dontaudit
[11:30] <JPT223> build/core/tasks/kernel.mk:167: recipe for target '[...]phablet/out/target/product/generic/ubuntu/kernel/vmlinuz' failed
[11:30] <JPT223> make: *** [[...]phablet/out/target/product/generic/ubuntu/kernel/vmlinuz] Error 1
[11:30] <JPT223> make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
[11:30] <JPT223> [...]phablet/out/host/linux-x86/bin/checkpolicy:  policy configuration loaded
[11:31] <JPT223> [...]phablet/out/host/linux-x86/bin/checkpolicy:  writing binary representation (version 26) to [...]phablet/out/target/product/generic/obj/ETC/sepolicy_intermediates//sepolicy.dontaudit
[11:31] <JPT223> system/core/init/builtins.c: In function 'do_setsebool':
[11:31] <JPT223> system/core/init/builtins.c:817:12: warning: assignment discards 'const' qualifier from pointer target type [enabled by default]
[11:31] <JPT223> system/core/init/init.c: In function 'main':
[11:31] <JPT223> system/core/init/init.c:1022:17: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type [enabled by default]
[11:31] <JPT223> I cannot find the source of this policy-file. And I cannot find out what exactly is wrong with it.
[11:31] <JPT223> Could you give a hint please?
[11:31] <popey> argh!
[11:32] <popey> (next time use a pastebin please)
[11:32] <JPT223> ok, sorry
[11:54] <JPT223> Ok, I'm such an idiot. My DSL router was broken down and the build process tried to go online. o.O
[12:28] <gigirock> i'm totaly new about porting, but i cannot understand if the 'base' of porting is still cyanogenmod or not.....
[12:37] <gigirock> if i read the last guideline there is no connection about cyanogenmod and ubuphone , but all the people involvedi in porting and develop still talking about cm11 or similar
[12:56] <mcphail> popey: your battery graph looks even worse than mine...
[12:56] <popey> Good isn't it? :)
[12:56] <mcphail> :)
[13:18] <jgdx> pmcgowan, hey, are you able to test my call forwarding silo today?
[13:21] <pmcgowan> jgdx, I could but I think we decided att didnt support it properly?
[13:22] <jgdx> pmcgowan, no, you identified some real issues which I have tried to addressed, and marked it crit for ota8 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1478049/comments/8
[13:22] <jgdx> s/adressed/address
[13:22] <pmcgowan> jgdx, sure
[13:22] <pmcgowan> let me know
[13:23] <jgdx> pmcgowan, thanks. I will (~1 hour).
[13:31]  * popey hugs bregma 
[13:48] <jgdx> pmcgowan, okay, silo 19 is good to go!
[13:53] <pmcgowan> jgdx, got a pointer to the bug
[13:53] <pmcgowan> to remind myself
[13:53] <jgdx> pmcgowan, bug 1478049
[13:54] <Vincrop> hi!
[13:55] <pmcgowan> jgdx, ca you attach the mr to that?
[13:55] <pmcgowan> in the meantime loading it
[13:55] <jgdx> pmcgowan, woops, yes
[13:57] <pmcgowan> jgdx, so first time in the phone panel shows nothing, then after entering call forwarding it shows "Some calls"
[13:57] <pmcgowan> it still feels a bit weird
[13:58] <pmcgowan> I guess nothing is better than off
[13:58] <jgdx> pmcgowan, yeah, but it's pr design. It's meant to prevent the call forwarding settings being queried just by opening the Phone panel...
[14:00] <pmcgowan> setting all calls worked
[14:00] <pmcgowan> jgdx, so seems ok if thats per design
[14:00] <pmcgowan> jgdx, ooops
[14:00]  * jgdx freezes
[14:00] <pmcgowan> jgdx, so it doesn't remember the previous numbers that were set?
[14:01] <pmcgowan> I unchecked all calls and checked one of the options
[14:01] <pmcgowan> I expect it to remember that number
[14:01] <pmcgowan> which I know dont remember
[14:03] <jgdx> pmcgowan, no, we don't.
[14:04] <jgdx> I can file a bug for that. What's the use case?
[14:04] <jgdx> a suggestion of the previously used number for any call forwarding?
[14:04] <pmcgowan> jgdx, I want to temporarily forward all calls then go back to the normal setup
[14:04] <pmcgowan> so I want it to remember that number which is usually the message service
[14:05] <pmcgowan> and its a number I dont know since the carrier assigns it
[14:05] <jgdx> pmcgowan, if you have "forward when busy" set, then setting "all calls", unsetting "all calls" should restore "forward when busy". It doesn't, is that what you're saying?
[14:05] <pmcgowan> righ tit doesnt
[14:05] <pmcgowan> wen I select it I need to enter the phone number
[14:06] <pmcgowan> jgdx, even if it doesnt reset the other 3 options, when I select them it should have the previous number
[14:06] <jgdx> right..
[14:14] <jgdx> pmcgowan, bug 1513848 filed
[14:15] <pmcgowan> jgdx, vg
[14:15] <pmcgowan> except now my phone is borked :(
[14:15] <jgdx> pmcgowan, because of call forwarding?
[14:16] <pmcgowan> jgdx, yeah now when I dont answer it wont go to voicemail I assume
[14:16] <pmcgowan> I need to go find the number
[14:16] <jgdx> pmcgowan, could you do /usr/share/ofono/script/list-modems ?
[14:16] <pmcgowan> jgdx, its just a test phone ;)
[14:16] <jgdx> :)
[14:16] <jgdx> pmcgowan, and PM me the output, or use the -p option
[14:22] <faenil> awe: it seems you were reading my mind :)
[14:22] <faenil> (or I was reading yours :D)
[14:24] <awe> faenil, re:?
[14:24] <faenil> awe: propertieschanged bug
[14:24] <faenil> awe: I've posted multiple videos with location services disabled
[14:25] <awe> posted to where?  youtube?
[14:25] <awe> ;)-
[14:26] <faenil> awe: yes ;)
[14:27] <faenil> (Unlisted)
[14:27] <awe> and your point being?  re: the videos?
[14:27] <awe> do you agree with my analysis that this is caused by location services?
[14:27] <awe> sorry, I'm juggling a bunch of things atm  ( and just started my day too )
[14:28] <faenil> awe: I left my comments in the bug thread, but I'll sum up here
[14:28] <awe> lemme just re-read
[14:28] <JPT223> I have a beginner question about porting: should my device (device/samsung/lt02wifi) appear in the lunch target list?
[14:29] <faenil> awe: disabling slpjwd makes a lot of diff, posclientd makes some diff...still, after disabling all the services, there's still 1 sec freeze (well, instead of 7-8-9secs, yeah)
[14:29] <awe> it's more like 1/2s
[14:29] <awe> or less
[14:29] <awe> but yea, it's still there...
[14:30] <awe> I think in general, our dbus hygiene is pretty bad
[14:30] <awe> the tool I used to find the offending processes flags poor DBus usage
[14:30] <awe> and although loc-services appears to be the worst offender
[14:30] <awe> there's other code that could be cleaned up
[14:33] <faenil> awe: I see..
[14:33] <faenil> awe: I'm not sure I got your comment on the bug thread though, is there anything else you want me to try?
[14:34] <awe> nope
[14:34] <faenil> awe: ok, cool!
[14:35] <awe> at this point, we have a pretty major flaw identified, and now we have to attempt to get it fixed... more dbus hygiene/cleanup hopefully to follow... but outside the scope of this bug
[14:37] <faenil> awe: though it still happens when the wifi scan happens, why would that be outside of the scope of the bug?
[14:37] <ahayzen> Hi, has anyone else noticed that whatever is the 'latest' version of a click package is used after a reboot? So if i install a version of an app lower than the one that is preinstalled/currently installed, if i then reboot my device it switches to the preinstalled/higher version rather than staying on the one i explicitly installed.
[14:37] <abeato> ahayzen, I had noticed that too :)
[14:38] <ahayzen> :-)
[14:38] <ahayzen> abeato, bet you noticed that when testing the music-app with bgplaylists ;-)
[14:38] <abeato> ahayzen, hehe, indeed
[14:39]  * ahayzen wonders if there is an existing bug report for this
[14:40] <awe> faenil, because if we've tuned every bit associated with NM traffic on the bus, there's not much else to do but tackle all the other facets that effect bus performance
[14:41] <awe> that said, I'll work with the product team to figure out the right way to handle moving fwd...
[14:41] <faenil> awe: yeah, that's ok, your job is done, that doesn't mean we need another bug, does it? just more project affected by the same issue
[14:42] <faenil> awe: cool, thanks
[14:42] <awe> faenil, it'll be up to the product team to determine that...
[14:42] <awe> np
[14:42] <faenil> I'd keep the same bug and tag X as affected project (once we know X)
[14:42] <faenil> awe: alright ;)
[14:51] <guest123124> what's the difference between ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en and ubuntu-touch/rc-proposed/bq-aquaris.en-proposed ?
[14:51] <ahayzen> abeato, can you confirm https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/click/+bug/1513860 ?
[14:52] <abeato> ahayzen, yep, great that you opened it
[14:59] <cwayne_> mariogrip: ping!
[15:18] <mariogrip> cwayne_: pong!
[15:19] <cwayne_> mariogrip: so somethin' i noticed, the ubports device page is missing GPS in the 'whats working/not working' section
[15:21] <mariogrip> cwayne_: oh, thanks I'll fix it
[15:22] <cwayne_> mariogrip: and so I imagine GPS isn't working on OPO yet right?
[15:27] <jgdx> abeato, hey, how do we get bug 1466095 on the ofono backlog?
[15:28] <abeato> jgdx, I'll add it
[15:28] <jgdx> abeato, thanks!
[15:28] <abeato> np
[15:30] <jgdx> pmcgowan, hey, the case where you apparantly lose some call forwarding settings is that ^ ofono bug.
[15:30] <pmcgowan> jgdx, but do we really lose the settings?
[15:30] <pmcgowan> I actually wonder if its properly changing them at all
[15:32] <jgdx> pmcgowan, from the point of view of System Settings, the settings are lost when you activate “forward all”.
[15:32] <jgdx> the bug here is that when ofono restores the settings, when you unset “forward all”, no events are emitted by ofono…
[15:37] <popey> mariogrip, ordered a OPX yet? :)
[15:40] <jgdx> seb128, it's https://code.launchpad.net/~jonas-drange/ubuntu-system-settings/lp1478049/+merge/276789
[15:40] <seb128> jgdx, looking
[15:40] <jgdx> seb128, thanks..
[16:07] <vishnudev_> hello guys
[16:08] <vishnudev_> I was trying to port ubuntu touch to nexus 6
[16:08] <vishnudev_> will the modified kernel boot for android?
[17:14] <Guest42341> there is something wrong with arale r157
[17:29] <seb128> jgdx, is the "cache for one hour" explained somewhere? and do we still have a spec of that?
[17:29] <seb128> the wiki has been replaced by a google doc
[17:30] <seb128> but I click on th" call forwarding" entry on the top it doesn't open anything
[17:30] <seb128> mpt, ^
[17:41] <decebal> hello all
[17:41] <decebal> Does anyone have a Aquaris E5 HD Ubuntu Edition cell phone
[17:41] <decebal> thoughts, like, dislikes?
[17:49] <khod> Kenvandine is there an easy way to keep the birdy from flying i just want him to jump. Ive been looking over box2d which i see in your documentation is part of bacon2d.
[17:52] <kenvandine> khod, sure
[18:04] <mpt> seb128, unfortunately my paste of the settings spec into the Phone app spec isn’t approved yet. In the meantime, you can still read it at <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PhoneApp?action=recall&rev=21>.
[18:09] <khod> Good ill keep looking through the box2d stuff an see what i need to change
[18:10] <seb128> mpt, thanks
[18:31] <mcphail> popey: is bschaefer still working on SDL2/Mir?
[18:31] <popey> I don't know.
[18:32] <popey> he's in -mir
[18:32] <mcphail> Ta
[18:32] <bschaefer> im here as well :)
[18:32] <bschaefer> mcphail, https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/libsdl/update-mir-new-abi-api/+merge/276578
[18:34] <popey> oh hai!
[18:54] <bfiller> popey: when you get a moment, if you could review the latest camera app in the store
[18:55] <popey> bfiller, done
[19:05] <bfiller> popey: cheers
[19:05] <popey> np
[19:45] <amberdickey> where can I find Ubuntu-Touch to download for my phone?
[19:54] <dobey> !devices | amberdickey
[19:58] <mterry> zbenjamin, you around?  I'm having a problem with the new-style ubuntu-sdk-ide on wily
[20:20] <slvn_> hi !
[20:20] <slvn_> I need some help with cross compilation
[20:21] <slvn_> I have a partial chroot vivid
[20:21] <slvn_> I would like to add a ppa over this partial chroot
[20:21] <slvn_> the ppa is https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/stable-phone-overlay/+index
[20:21] <slvn_> how should i do that ?
[20:25] <jgdx> seb128, it's arbitrary. The spec calls for the summary to expire at every reboot? I'd love suggestions on how to fix that.
[20:36] <popey> slvn_, you can just add a line in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/overlay.list containing the relavent deb line from the ppa?
[20:37] <popey> # cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/extra-ppas.list
[20:37] <popey> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay/ubuntu vivid main
[20:37] <popey> ^ like that
[20:37]  * ogra_ doubts that works since you need the gpg key too
[20:39] <slvn_> popey, I am not sure of all this stuff. /etc/apt is for my computer, but I want to put the ppa on top of a partial-chroot
[20:39] <slvn_> I use the script of mir, setup-partial-chroot
[20:39] <popey> thats in my chroot
[20:39] <ogra_> so you use etc/apt/ in the chroot
[20:40] <slvn_> it uses "multistrap",
[20:40] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13129481/
[20:40] <popey> Oh, I use click chroot
[20:41] <slvn_> ogra_,  yes ./etc/apt in the chroot
[20:42] <slvn_> to build the partial chroot, I should just use "click chroot -a armhf -f ubuntu-sdk-15.04 maint" now ?
[20:44] <slvn_> I gave " http://ppa.launchpad.net/ci-train-ppa-service/stable-phone-overlay/ubuntu/ " to multistrap and it seems to have find it
[22:11] <jiremek> Hello, I try to port ubuntu touch to Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 (santos10wifi).
[22:12] <jiremek> I need Help about this error: phablet/out/target/product/p5210/obj/EXECUTABLES/InputDispatcher_test_intermediates/InputDispatcher_test.o' failed
[22:12] <jiremek> Did you know where is the mistake ?
[22:40] <waressearcher2> is ubuntu phone a viable product or it will eventually flipps ?
[22:45] <OerHeks> You can buy at least 3 models now.
[22:55] <khod2> Rome wasn't built in a day :)
[22:56] <genii> But they didn't have us on the job
[23:16] <Guest69951> hi
[23:19] <Guest69951> is there any developer here?