| pieter2627 | morning all | 04:45 |
|---|---|---|
| Cryterion | Mornings | 06:18 |
| magespawn | good morning | 06:29 |
| pieter2627 | hi Cryterion magespawn | 06:38 |
| theblazehen | Hi guys | 07:00 |
| theblazehen | My ip changed, and now I'm on a blacklist :/ | 07:00 |
| theblazehen | Really glad that ssh -D is a thing | 07:00 |
| Squirm | Hello | 07:36 |
| * Squirm prods Trixar_za | 07:39 | |
| Squirm | How is everyone | 07:39 |
| Squirm | ? | 07:39 |
| theblazehen | Sup Squirm, good and you? | 07:40 |
| Squirm | Doing well | 07:40 |
| Squirm | Feels like I haven't been here for a while | 07:40 |
| theblazehen | Neither have I | 07:41 |
| magespawn | hey Squirm theblazehen | 07:42 |
| Squirm | magespawn | 07:42 |
| theblazehen | sup magespawn | 07:42 |
| magespawn | yeah the blacklisting of an ip is a pain | 07:43 |
| magespawn | trying to upgrade a ubuntu server from 14.04, nothing seems to work yet thoug | 07:44 |
| magespawn | h | 07:44 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: thats a LTS version right? | 07:46 |
| Squirm | It is | 07:46 |
| magespawn | yes | 07:46 |
| magespawn | amazon server | 07:47 |
| magespawn | i forget is 15.04 also lts? | 07:47 |
| theblazehen | You have changed from lts to normal right? | 07:47 |
| theblazehen | I think only every 2 years | 07:47 |
| theblazehen | 12.04, 14.04, 16.04 etc | 07:48 |
| pieter2627 | yeah only every two years^^ | 07:49 |
| pieter2627 | btw, hi Squirm | 07:49 |
| andrewlsd | Maaz: seen Kilos | 07:50 |
| Maaz | andrewlsd: Kilos was last seen 9 hours, 23 minutes and 57 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2015-11-05 14:26:06 PST], and has been offline on freenode since 2015-11-05 14:26:28 PST | 07:50 |
| andrewlsd | Hi all | 07:50 |
| Squirm | Hey pieter2627 | 07:50 |
| Squirm | hey andrewlsd | 07:50 |
| theblazehen | magespawn you changed it to normal in /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades right? | 07:50 |
| theblazehen | hi andrewlsd | 07:50 |
| andrewlsd | hi Squirm theblazehen | 07:50 |
| pieter2627 | hi andrewlsd, did you got right with a unity8 | 07:50 |
| andrewlsd | Minetest query, I can't remember who has the minetest server here. Any volunteers? | 07:50 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: I changed that and then just did do-release-upgrade | 07:51 |
| andrewlsd | pieter2627: nope | 07:51 |
| andrewlsd | pieter2627: unity8 seems like too much of a hassle just to test. That's a pity though, coz I really wanted to try it out. | 07:51 |
| theblazehen | I just did ^D on the ssh connection I'm using for my proxy... | 07:52 |
| theblazehen | Luckily it didn't close | 07:52 |
| andrewlsd | my favourite use of ssh is "ssh -D 3129 user@some-server" | 07:55 |
| andrewlsd | found #minetest-za | 07:56 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: Yeah, doing that now. Also ssh -R 0.0.0.0:1234:127.0.0.1:1234 is nice. Useful when I want to run a server for something from home | 07:56 |
| andrewlsd | yip, I used that yesterday to SSH to a device behind a jumpbox, and then push the DSL router's port 80 up to a server on the 'net that the box could reach | 08:02 |
| andrewlsd | ie: me --> jumpbox --> targetbox --> external server | 08:02 |
| andrewlsd | targetbox pushed DSL modem port 80 --> externalserver | 08:03 |
| theblazehen | nice | 08:08 |
| andrewlsd | I mainly use the ssh -D option, with firefox set to socks proxy with remote DNS | 08:09 |
| andrewlsd | ... one way of watching Hulu if the remote server is in the US. | 08:09 |
| anton | morning all any mikrotik boffins? | 08:10 |
| theblazehen | Yeah. On a previous ISP we had they throttled everything severely.. Except ssh :) So ssh -D 0.0.0.0:8080, and set everything to use that :) | 08:11 |
| theblazehen | magespawn you know anything about it? ^ | 08:11 |
| pieter2627 | andrewlsd: have you tried the package `unity8-desktop-session-mir` - found it this morning on one UOS session? | 08:38 |
| * pieter2627 might try it tomorrow | 08:38 | |
| Cryterion | andrewlsd - minetest query? | 08:41 |
| andrewlsd | pieter2627: will check. | 08:42 |
| andrewlsd | Cryterion: found #minetest-za, thanks. will ask there if necessary. | 08:43 |
| Cryterion | Ok kwl, me and thatgraemeguy run the Sa server | 08:43 |
| pieter2627 | there seems to have been a problem with it removing `modemManager` but on my 15.10 it does not mention that it will do so... | 08:44 |
| andrewlsd | prepping a new 15.10 install to test... | 08:53 |
| magespawn | theblazehen: sorry about what/ got a bit distracted | 08:57 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: anton was asking if anyone had microtik experience | 08:57 |
| magespawn | i have some yes | 08:57 |
| anton | Thanks don't worry came right mrtg to the rescua | 08:58 |
| magespawn | np | 08:58 |
| magespawn | theblazehen: i will change that on the server setup thanks | 08:59 |
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| magespawn | theblazehen: that has sorted it thanks | 09:37 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: Glad to help | 09:40 |
| theblazehen | I hate xorg | 09:55 |
| pieter2627 | theblazehen: long life mir or wayland :P | 09:56 |
| theblazehen | pieter2627: Wayland (well actually weston) doesn't support multiple GPUs yet | 09:56 |
| theblazehen | Nor does the gnome and kde display servers or whatever they are in wayland | 09:57 |
| pieter2627 | oh | 09:57 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: 5 monitors isn't exactly a normal use-case. | 09:57 |
| theblazehen | Yeah | 09:57 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: True.. | 09:57 |
| theblazehen | I'm gonna get some more next year :) | 09:58 |
| pieter2627 | hey it's an odd case | 09:58 |
| andrewlsd | 3 x 3 monitor grid. | 09:58 |
| * pieter2627 intended the pun | 09:58 | |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: build a video wall. | 09:58 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: Yeah. I can run 11 off my current setup | 09:58 |
| theblazehen | That's the plan :) But 4x4 instead | 09:58 |
| theblazehen | Probably gonna go with 1366x768 monitors. Cheap, and I'll be able to see stuff well from a distance | 09:59 |
| andrewlsd | my neighbour has 4 set up in a "cross" configuration for his flight-sim. ie, left-middle , centre-middle, right-middle and then centre-top and centre-bottom above and | 09:59 |
| andrewlsd | (for when he's not using is Occulus) | 10:00 |
| theblazehen | I count 5? | 10:01 |
| theblazehen | 6* | 10:01 |
| theblazehen | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYRlTISvjww | 10:08 |
| theblazehen | ^ | 10:08 |
| theblazehen | Uptime Funk - (Uptown Funk parody) | 10:08 |
| andrewlsd | ^ absolutely brilliant | 10:14 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: have you seen the linux sucks talks? | 10:15 |
| andrewlsd | nope | 10:17 |
| theblazehen | They're really great | 10:17 |
| andrewlsd | the Maroon 5 parody is epic too | 10:20 |
| theblazehen | Got a link? | 10:21 |
| magespawn | theblazehen: pretty cool | 10:22 |
| andrewlsd | the Maroon 5 parody: https://youtu.be/M9bq_alk-sw | 10:26 |
| theblazehen | ty | 10:26 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: yeah, that's cool | 10:31 |
| theblazehen | What is the use of 16 GiB of RAM when you are only using 2.62 GiB with a torrent client, file manager, vlc, libreoffice, 13 firefox tabs.. | 10:46 |
| theblazehen | https://github.com/kristopolous/bash-org-tools/tree/master/fortune fortune files for bash.org if anyone wants | 10:54 |
| MaNI | an intelligent OS would still use the other 14 gb to cache disk files and other things which can improve performance | 11:39 |
| MaNI | but that said if all you do is browse, edit word documents and pirate/watch movies than 16gb is probably overkill | 11:40 |
| theblazehen | MaNI: Yeah, it does | 11:43 |
| theblazehen | 8.1 GB in cache. 1GB as VRAM | 11:43 |
| theblazehen | and 4.4GB free | 11:44 |
| theblazehen | MaNI: And i do use it for VMs etc. Back in 2013 I was virtualizing EVERYTHING - 24GB ram, ran freenas, puppet master, torrent vm, media server vm, win 8 vm, win xp vm, and a VM for my desktop - Connected to my vm desktop with x2go as that was faster then using my netbook directly | 11:57 |
| theblazehen | and another VM for some AI / machine learning experiments | 11:57 |
| theblazehen | Actually no, then I only had 16 GB RAM | 11:59 |
| theblazehen | Once I get a gpu I'll set up another PC with 12 GB that I'm not using (1333 MHz, main pc runs 1600 MHz) so that I can use virtualgl with it for gaming | 12:00 |
| MaNI | why not use the same machine - with an extra gpu and kvm vga passthrough? | 12:04 |
| theblazehen | Because then I'd need to connect another PCIe riser for my 1 gpu so that I can add my new gpu in the 16x speed slot. And it took lots of time getting the setup to work how it is now. And right now I;m stuck running nouveau as the "broken" GPU I got only runs with nouveau, and the other gpu of mine isn't supported by nvidia driver any more. And afaik you need to connect a display directly to the VMs gpu? | 12:07 |
| theblazehen | I'd rather use the nvidia driver on the other pc | 12:07 |
| theblazehen | Also, all my games run in wine | 12:07 |
| theblazehen | Running my onboard HD4600 + GTX550Ti ("broken") + GT210 at the moment | 12:08 |
| theblazehen | http://imgur.com/a/uVHYy my old setup. I just removed the laptop as a display | 12:09 |
| magespawn | how to issue commands to a remote instance of byobu when connected to it from ssh in a local byobu? | 12:20 |
| theblazehen | magespawn: http://askubuntu.com/questions/102640/how-do-i-send-a-literal-f6-etc-in-byobu this help? | 12:21 |
| magespawn | let me check | 13:12 |
| magespawn | yes thanks, more learning, i have use the unbound key stroks | 13:14 |
| magespawn | chat late | 13:35 |
| magespawn | later | 13:35 |
| Kilos | afternoon all | 13:43 |
| theblazehen | Hi Kilos | 13:44 |
| anton | afternoon & ciao time to tackle the traffic back home | 13:49 |
| pieter2627 | hey Kilos | 13:56 |
| * pieter2627 wbbl | 13:56 | |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: make sure whatever machine you want to use supports that PCI passthrough. | 14:03 |
| andrewlsd | I was hoping to do that with mine, and my hardware does not do MMU, or something. | 14:04 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: I wont be using a VM, it's basically X11 forwarding that I will be doing | 14:04 |
| theblazehen | VirtualGL runs a Xorg server and it intercepts OpenGL calls and passes it through to the X server, then sends the image to your computer | 14:05 |
| theblazehen | But my board does support VT-d | 14:05 |
| andrewlsd | oh. | 14:05 |
| andrewlsd | yeah mine does VT, but not intel_iommu | 14:06 |
| theblazehen | Although I could also run windows server, with HyperV and RemoteFX then rdp into the vm | 14:06 |
| theblazehen | andrewlsd: So VT-x then? | 14:06 |
| theblazehen | Mine has the iommu. Used it in the past | 14:06 |
| theblazehen | I basically run the game with X11 forwarding, but the graphics are rendered on the pc running the game | 14:10 |
| theblazehen | Although I could put the gpu in my main pc, set it up so I can use PRIME. I'll just need more space to put another gpu, as I have one in my x16 slot at the moment, so I'll need another x1 to x16 riser and space to put it | 14:12 |
| andrewlsd | rebooting to test iommu stuff :-) | 14:24 |
| andrewlsd | theblazehen: my CPU is i7-4710MQ, which according to ark.intel.com does not do VT-d | 14:53 |
| andrewlsd | http://ark.intel.com/products/78931/Intel-Core-i7-4710MQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_50-GHz?q=i7-4710MQ | 14:53 |
| andrewlsd | :-( | 14:53 |
| andrewlsd | Hi Kilos, long time no see | 14:54 |
| Kilos | wasnt i here yesterday andrewlsd ? | 14:54 |
| Kilos | hehe | 14:54 |
| andrewlsd | ;-) | 14:54 |
| Kilos | hows things by you | 14:54 |
| andrewlsd | just not this morning. | 14:54 |
| Kilos | aha | 14:54 |
| andrewlsd | good ty, U? | 14:55 |
| Kilos | im sukkeling with online banking and stuffs | 14:55 |
| Kilos | im good ty | 14:55 |
| andrewlsd | just came back from SARS, | 14:55 |
| Kilos | you owe the or they owe you? | 14:56 |
| andrewlsd | They owe me, had to go hand in supporting documentation. | 14:56 |
| Kilos | nice | 14:56 |
| andrewlsd | (had to do it last year too. Seems to be SOP for home office claims) | 14:57 |
| Kilos | as long as you get back its worth it | 14:57 |
| Kilos | to go stand there and have to pay in would be worse | 14:58 |
| Cryterion | Kilos, what bank do you use? | 15:01 |
| Kilos | ive opened an absa account | 15:02 |
| Cryterion | andrewlsd: SARS - south african robbing service, is it's true name btw | 15:02 |
| Kilos | and when we want to put money in using paypal only fnb has that option | 15:03 |
| Cryterion | oh, I fight with std all the time, they always f-up | 15:03 |
| andrewlsd | FNB seems to be best so far, but I haven't used Capitec yet | 15:03 |
| Cryterion | I've Never had a problem with Nedbank | 15:03 |
| Kilos | when you do a bank to bank transfer from aus to here they rip you off with costs | 15:03 |
| andrewlsd | Cryterion: at least the service is good :-) they rob you quickly, efficiently and with a smile | 15:04 |
| Cryterion | yeah, true | 15:04 |
| Kilos | cost near 1k to transfer 5k | 15:04 |
| Kilos | what a ripoff | 15:04 |
| Cryterion | ouch | 15:04 |
| Kilos | and its all done on pcs | 15:04 |
| Cryterion | use bitcoins | 15:05 |
| andrewlsd | Cryterion: nedbank lost my wife's money a few years ago. Took them 9 months to return it to us. So I won't use them. Plus, they're probably the most un-opensource-friendly. With FNB at the opposite end of that spectrum. | 15:05 |
| Kilos | one would swear they have to fly here with the cash | 15:05 |
| Kilos | fnb has also only recently started the paypal link | 15:06 |
| Kilos | they all thieves | 15:06 |
| andrewlsd | Kilos: I think so too. | 15:06 |
| Cryterion | yeah, they are | 15:06 |
| Kilos | how can it cost 1k to send 5k | 15:07 |
| Kilos | and that was to std bank here | 15:07 |
| Cryterion | std bank, it costs me R4-5 everytime I swipe the card now, even their staff can't action things correctly at a branch | 15:07 |
| Kilos | and they charge to put money in and to draw the same money | 15:08 |
| Kilos | swines | 15:08 |
| Cryterion | import tax probably, sars | 15:08 |
| Kilos | paypal seems the only viable solution | 15:09 |
| andrewlsd | cheerio all. It's weekend at last. :-) | 15:09 |
| Kilos | cheers andrewlsd | 15:09 |
| Kilos | have a good one | 15:09 |
| Cryterion | paypal does work, I do know that, not sure on the costs on receiving money though | 15:09 |
| Cryterion | cheers andrewlsd | 15:10 |
| Cryterion | Anyone know a little bit on sorting out SSL certificates? | 15:14 |
| Kilos | Cryterion the pro knows | 15:49 |
| Kilos | lemme try do it here and see how well i foorgot | 15:50 |
| Kilos | you mean here with irc hey? | 15:50 |
| Kilos | Cryterion i think you need to change the port number | 15:53 |
| Kilos | didnt work here either | 15:53 |
| Kilos | we try at 8.30 tonight if pro available | 15:53 |
| magespawn | good evening | 17:56 |
| theblazehen | Cryterion: You heard about the mozilla ssl certs? | 18:04 |
| theblazehen | Lets encrypt | 18:04 |
| Kilos | hi magespawn | 18:18 |
| theblazehen | Somehow application won't launch because they can't create a window in xorg.. Tels me to see if $DISPLAY is set.. Sure is. Weird. Reboot fixed it | 18:27 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 18:32 |
| Kilos | hi there inetpro | 18:32 |
| theblazehen | Hi inetpro, Kilos | 18:32 |
| Kilos | hi theblazehen | 18:32 |
| inetpro | Kilos: sorry, kids been keeping me busy in the evening this week | 18:33 |
| Kilos | np | 18:33 |
| inetpro | hi theblazehen, nice to see you in action again | 18:33 |
| theblazehen | Glad to be back :) Plan to stick around this time | 18:34 |
| Kilos | good lad | 18:37 |
| inetpro | wb Kilos | 18:47 |
| Kilos | ty sir | 18:47 |
| Kilos | all good inetpro ? | 18:49 |
| Kilos | apart from tired of course | 18:50 |
| theblazehen | Maaz tell MaNI I see you're on afrihost. We moved away fro them to crsytalweb, have you tried them out? Bit faster than afrihost for us | 18:50 |
| Maaz | theblazehen: Sure, I'll tell MaNI on freenode | 18:50 |
| Kilos | oh ty for the topic change inetpro | 18:51 |
| MaNI | I use the works ADSL not my call, but afrihost working okay :p | 18:51 |
| Maaz | MaNI: By the way, theblazehen on freenode told me "tell MaNI I see you're on afrihost. We moved away fro them to crsytalweb, have you tried them out? Bit faster than afrihost for us" 1 minute and 15 seconds ago | 18:51 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:51 |
| theblazehen | Ah cool | 18:51 |
| inetpro | Kilos: say thanks to piet[tab] | 18:53 |
| Kilos | aha | 18:53 |
| inetpro | he be the driving force | 18:53 |
| magespawn | hey inetpro | 18:55 |
| inetpro | hi magespawn | 18:57 |
| inetpro | something seems very wrong with neology's mirror | 18:57 |
| magespawn | have you been using your amazon instance? | 18:57 |
| inetpro | have sent a mail to the maintainer, hopefully he will sort it out asap | 18:57 |
| inetpro | magespawn: our QA bot in #ubuntu-africa has been running on AWS all this time | 18:59 |
| * inetpro needs to check the date when starting the host | 18:59 | |
| magespawn | cool beans, i have just been running practice exercises on my one | 18:59 |
| inetpro | will probably expire one of these days already | 19:00 |
| magespawn | i think mine has about 4 months left of the free service | 19:00 |
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| magespawn | okay what happened there? | 19:23 |
| Kilos | haha | 19:24 |
| Kilos | ya inetpro neology sick since yesterday | 19:24 |
| theblazehen | I wish people would read man pages... | 19:25 |
| Kilos | i hate man pages | 19:25 |
| theblazehen | Spent hours helping this guy in #archlinux | 19:25 |
| magespawn | theblazehen: your good deed for the day | 19:26 |
| theblazehen | Yeah :) | 19:26 |
| theblazehen | Hate xorg though.. | 19:26 |
| theblazehen | And this guy insists on using linux-libre -won't even test with normal linux | 19:26 |
| theblazehen | And he lives in a tty.. In emacs | 19:26 |
| magespawn | i did not even know that they existed when i first started with ubuntu | 19:26 |
| magespawn | and you had to help him? | 19:27 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, in my first few years I just read the gnome docs that came with 8.04 | 19:27 |
| theblazehen | Nah, I was just procrastinating on studying | 19:27 |
| magespawn | mmm, and now/ | 19:28 |
| magespawn | ? | 19:28 |
| theblazehen | Now, I juts give up.. | 19:28 |
| magespawn | right | 19:28 |
| theblazehen | He's asking how to list packages that match a name.. 1 min in a man page, lol | 19:28 |
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| inetpro | oops magespawn, that was me choosing the wrong channel when trying to help Kilos in #ubuntu-africa | 19:33 |
| Kilos | hahaha | 19:33 |
| magespawn | no worries | 19:33 |
| Kilos | what a schlep | 19:36 |
| Cryterion | maaz: is coffee on | 19:50 |
| Maaz | Cryterion: Excuse me? | 19:50 |
| Cryterion | maaz: stock the fridge with beer then | 19:51 |
| Maaz | Cryterion: Excuse me? | 19:51 |
| Cryterion | maaz: make some coffee | 19:51 |
| Maaz | Cryterion: Huh? | 19:51 |
| Cryterion | maaz: coffee | 19:53 |
| Maaz | Cryterion: coffee is liquid code | 19:53 |
| Cryterion | maaz: so is java | 19:53 |
| Maaz | Cryterion: One learns a new thing every day | 19:53 |
| Cryterion | maaz: you don't know how to learn | 19:53 |
| Maaz | Cryterion: Huh? | 19:53 |
| Cryterion | maaz: huh? | 19:54 |
| Maaz | Cryterion: *blink* | 19:54 |
| theblazehen | Cryterion: https://github.com/spion/triplie-ng if you're looking for conversation :) | 19:54 |
| gremble | Good evening | 19:54 |
| Cryterion | evening guys | 19:54 |
| theblazehen | hi gremble | 19:54 |
| gremble | Hey theblazehen | 19:55 |
| gremble | Hey Cryterion | 19:55 |
| Kilos | hi gremble | 19:55 |
| gremble | Hey Kilos | 19:55 |
| theblazehen | "Doing this all day leaves you in a state of mild aphasia as you look at people's faces while they're speaking and you don't know they've finished because there's no semicolon" | 19:56 |
| Cryterion | was just playing with maaz, can never seem to get him to make coffee, he always does that to me lol | 19:56 |
| gremble | You're coding in C? | 19:56 |
| theblazehen | gremble: php ;) | 19:56 |
| theblazehen | jk. Got it from http://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks | 19:57 |
| * gremble shivers | 19:57 | |
| gremble | Haha :P | 19:57 |
| Cryterion | c also has the ; | 19:57 |
| theblazehen | Yeah | 19:57 |
| theblazehen | Python too, if you *really* want to | 19:57 |
| gremble | I'm trying to write a simple commandline parser in haskell. I think I am to dumb for programming languages xD | 19:57 |
| theblazehen | Try this in the python REPL: "from __future__ import braces" | 19:58 |
| theblazehen | :) | 19:58 |
| Cryterion | last link reminds me of a Internet Explorer error, "Error, the command completed successfully!" | 19:58 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, I've seen that (not irl though) | 19:59 |
| Cryterion | not url either, on screen, win95 | 20:00 |
| theblazehen | Ouch :( | 20:00 |
| theblazehen | 98SE 4 life | 20:00 |
| theblazehen | Longhorn was actually quite nice. What vista should have been | 20:01 |
| theblazehen | Only windows version that I really liked | 20:01 |
| Cryterion | 95C was the most stable, but 98SE 4 was close | 20:03 |
| gremble | I thought longhorn wasn't released? It was the codename for 7 or something? | 20:03 |
| theblazehen | gremble: codename for vista, yeah | 20:03 |
| gremble | Yes, vista wasn't nice :P | 20:03 |
| theblazehen | Ran the beta before vista was released for a year or two | 20:03 |
| gremble | Oh alright | 20:03 |
| theblazehen | gremble: Due to the fact that they ran late, and had to rush the final product. Longhorn still had the good features before they were ripped out of vista | 20:04 |
| Cryterion | I stayed away from vista, jumped most systems from 95C to 98SE then XP | 20:04 |
| gremble | The only reason I used windows from time to time these days is because I have to do editing using word. LibreOffice is not doing very well on its trackchanges and review features :< | 20:04 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, got a window vm just for that | 20:05 |
| gremble | Why did they have to rip features out to make a deadline? | 20:05 |
| theblazehen | http://www.zdnet.com/pictures/windows-longhorn-still-the-most-exciting-windows-ui-to-date/ :) | 20:05 |
| theblazehen | Because they weren't ready for normal users yet, etc | 20:05 |
| gremble | Oh alright | 20:05 |
| Cryterion | Libre works fine for me, some stuff no longer there which was only usefull for people at that time | 20:05 |
| gremble | I'm quite keen on my current UI. Openbox with numix and plank | 20:06 |
| theblazehen | gremble: Numix is nice. Have you tried the arc themes? | 20:06 |
| theblazehen | Did you see my setup I posted? | 20:06 |
| gremble | You posted your setup? | 20:07 |
| theblazehen | http://imgur.com/a/uVHYy old setup http://i.imgur.com/BJ1m5Xw.jpg current | 20:07 |
| theblazehen | Yeah | 20:07 |
| gremble | I haven't tried the arc themes. I'm not entirely one for ricing. This just came with antegros :P | 20:07 |
| theblazehen | Antergos is nice :) Had that on desktop, and running it on laptop nice | 20:08 |
| theblazehen | Can't really do it on desktop, because gnome doesn't like running with RandR providers and stuff... | 20:08 |
| gremble | Your board is going to collect so much dust :< | 20:09 |
| gremble | Well, the old setup | 20:09 |
| theblazehen | It does.. | 20:09 |
| theblazehen | new setup is the same, just not using laptop as a display now | 20:09 |
| gremble | I have two screens atm, my laptop (the computer that I am using since my desktop's HDD is still fried) and a 23" (iirc) | 20:11 |
| theblazehen | Cool. maybe PXE boot the desktop, with an image on the laptop? | 20:11 |
| theblazehen | just load pxelinux and a kernel on a usb, then use root as a nfs / nbd mount | 20:12 |
| gremble | No real point to doing that, since everything that the desktop was useful for was on that HDD :P | 20:12 |
| theblazehen | yeah.. :/ | 20:12 |
| gremble | So when I get a new HDD, I'll make the desktop useful again | 20:13 |
| theblazehen | Yeah | 20:13 |
| gremble | but they've become quite expensive | 20:13 |
| theblazehen | What size you looking for? | 20:13 |
| theblazehen | My WD10EZEX is around 750 for 1TB. Performs well | 20:13 |
| gremble | Smallest you get these days is 1TB so probably that | 20:14 |
| theblazehen | Boots in 19 seconds | 20:14 |
| gremble | But the places around here doesn't seem to have those. Not 7200 rpm at least | 20:14 |
| theblazehen | Ah, you're not in SA right? | 20:14 |
| theblazehen | Europe somewhere? | 20:14 |
| gremble | No, I'm in Pretoria | 20:14 |
| gremble | We've met | 20:14 |
| gremble | :P | 20:14 |
| theblazehen | Ah, yeah :) | 20:15 |
| theblazehen | wootware.co.za is great. Cheap too | 20:15 |
| gremble | Yes, this is nice. Thanks theblazehen | 20:16 |
| theblazehen | Spent over 50k there :) | 20:17 |
| theblazehen | When me and my dad were into bitcoin mining | 20:17 |
| gremble | Ooh, they have a nice cheap T440P thinkpad :< | 20:18 |
| theblazehen | nice. I hate most laptop keyboards.. Can hardly ever push Super + shift with one finger | 20:18 |
| theblazehen | Got a K70 mechanical keyboard with MX Blues now :) | 20:19 |
| theblazehen | Cost me 2 grand.. Worth it | 20:19 |
| gremble | Nice. One day when I am rich I'll get a mechanical keyboard | 20:19 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, you'll never go back to normal.. | 20:19 |
| gremble | I'm not to averse to my Compaq 6510b's keyboard | 20:19 |
| gremble | Better than the desktop's for sure | 20:20 |
| theblazehen | My old keyboard was made like 15 years ago. Pretty decent. But not as good as this one :) 2nd best keyboard I've ever used | 20:20 |
| Kilos | night all sleep tight | 20:26 |
| theblazehen | night Kilos | 20:26 |
| gremble | I'm sitting here looking at a haskell repository and wondering if I shouldn't instead rewrite it in python :< | 20:27 |
| theblazehen | Yeah, python ftw | 20:27 |
| gremble | I hate having to decide which programming language to use haha because I am never sure which would be better for the scope of the project | 20:28 |
| gremble | XD | 20:28 |
| gremble | Also, it is probably because I am an excellent bikeshedder | 20:29 |
| theblazehen | Yeah. I tend to normally go for python.. Even for things that it's a bad idea for... | 20:29 |
| theblazehen | Yes! Just discovered that I lost the code I was just thinking about :) | 20:30 |
| gremble | Always nice to discover that code is lost | 20:30 |
| theblazehen | yeah | 20:30 |
| gremble | Should've used version control | 20:30 |
| gremble | :P | 20:30 |
| theblazehen | No thanks | 20:30 |
| theblazehen | night guys | 20:35 |
| gremble | Night | 20:36 |
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