| wxl | since https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs lacks any links to the ppa, as does sgclark's post about the trusty-backports ppa, can someone please link me? | 00:51 | 
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| mparillo | This is an example of the guidance I used to share about backports: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-532-and-frameworks-5120-backported-kubuntu-1504/ | 01:20 | 
| wxl | thx mparillo | 01:21 | 
| * wxl yawns | 04:14 | |
| wxl | still up philipballew ? | 04:57 | 
| wxl | uhhh | 04:57 | 
| wxl | wrong channel | 04:57 | 
| lordievader | Good morning. | 09:12 | 
| clivejo | has anything changed graphically in wily this past few days? | 10:34 | 
| clivejo | my display has suddenly got bigger (bigger fonts, bigger tray icons etc) | 10:36 | 
| clivejo | hi sick_rimmit | 10:55 | 
| soee_ | in Wily - i doubt | 10:55 | 
| clivejo | soee_: :( | 10:55 | 
| clivejo | this is so weird | 10:56 | 
| soee_ | domething related to DPI prbably in your case | 10:56 | 
| clivejo | how do I change that? | 10:56 | 
| clivejo | In Settings> Display Configuation> Scale Display it is set at 1x, but if I move that slider and save, settings crashes | 10:58 | 
| clivejo | Im installing qtbase5-dbg & systemsettings-dbg to get a better bug report | 10:59 | 
| clivejo | this happened in reverse during wily development | 11:00 | 
| soee_ | :/ | 11:00 | 
| clivejo | but I grew to like the smaller icons | 11:01 | 
| soee_ | tbh i had never someserious problems with DPI on my laptop | 11:01 | 
| clivejo | and Id like them back! | 11:01 | 
| clivejo | how do you change the DPI? | 11:05 | 
| sick_rimmit | Hi clivejo | 11:07 | 
| sick_rimmit | morning everyone | 11:07 | 
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| soee_ | clivejo: i do not change anything, it just work fone | 11:14 | 
| clivejo | eakkk | 11:44 | 
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| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 12:23 | 
| sick_rimmit | Hi BluesKaj | 12:41 | 
| BluesKaj | Hi sick_rimmit | 12:41 | 
| sick_rimmit | Looking at some Bugs, I am Triaging.. | 12:41 | 
| BluesKaj | ok good | 12:41 | 
| sick_rimmit | We've got some for Quanta the old HTML IDE.. | 12:41 | 
| sick_rimmit | I don't think that we package that any more do we ? | 12:42 | 
| sick_rimmit | Has Kdevelop taken over from it | 12:42 | 
| BluesKaj | sick_rimmit, dunno, i test, but don't package | 12:43 | 
| sick_rimmit | Ah cool, well that's even more important | 12:56 | 
| sick_rimmit | Do you use the TestDrive tool ? | 12:57 | 
| BluesKaj | nope, never used it ...whenever Riddell or one of the devs has a major release/ppa etc, then a list of testers are called to test it | 13:05 | 
| clivejo | I *beeping* hate NVidia! | 13:05 | 
| BluesKaj | that's about as involved as I get | 13:06 | 
| BluesKaj | nvidia works ok vs amd | 13:06 | 
| clivejo | Ive spent an hour trying to get back into Plasma | 13:07 | 
| clivejo | and still got stupid big icons and fonts | 13:07 | 
| clivejo | I dunno why changed over night | 13:07 | 
| BluesKaj | nvidia does have it's bugs but they're usually fixable ...amd 's problems are more numerous | 13:08 | 
| clivejo | but nothing changed, there was no updates, nothing new installed. Just booted this morning to my whole desktop blown up and ugly looking | 13:09 | 
| clivejo | all my screens are same resolution, just everything is bigger | 13:10 | 
| BluesKaj | system settings>icons>advanced tab | 13:10 | 
| clivejo | its not just the icons, its the fonts, windows everything | 13:10 | 
| BluesKaj | then it's your resolution and your fonts dpi | 13:11 | 
| clivejo | the resolutions are the same | 13:11 | 
| clivejo | Ive still got the screen sizes I had all along | 13:12 | 
| clivejo | this seems to be the problem - https://plus.google.com/+KDEOKK/posts/R34B46xDvNz | 13:19 | 
| clivejo | instead of the default setting of x1, I need to go smaller, like x0.9 | 13:20 | 
| BluesKaj | I have increase the dpi due to the size of my monitor, it's a 42" Panasonic plasma TV | 13:24 | 
| clivejo | well that scaling slider is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike | 13:28 | 
| BluesKaj | clivejo, there's still a lot of features that are missing or don't work well, or don't work at all | 13:32 | 
| clivejo | sorry BluesKaj, I rebooted as you sent that message | 13:47 | 
| clivejo | the problem is it was working fine yesterday. What changed from yesterday to today ? | 13:48 | 
| BluesKaj | which kubuntu? | 13:49 | 
| clivejo | 15.10 | 13:50 | 
| clivejo | its so weird, it did this in reverse a few months ago. I thought it was just an update as part of wily devel, but I liked the smaller icons and having more room on the screen | 13:52 | 
| clivejo | wasted 4 hours on this now :( | 13:54 | 
| BluesKaj | sorry clivejo i just use the icon sizes settings, but even they don't seem to do much | 14:03 | 
| BluesKaj | I normally don't populate my desktop with icons. I populate the launchers in the panel by dragging them from the application launcher | 14:05 | 
| BluesKaj | in conjunction with the icons only taskmanager | 14:06 | 
| * sick_rimmit Laughs with clivejo | 15:11 | |
| * sick_rimmit "An Ashtray on a Motorbike" | 15:11 | |
| * clivejo is not laughing | 15:11 | |
| sick_rimmit | lol | 15:11 | 
| clivejo | this plasma has a mind of its own | 15:12 | 
| clivejo | like a baby Skynet | 15:12 | 
| clivejo | sick_rimmit: if you have time would you try that slider in different positions and see if it does anything on your system? | 15:16 | 
| clivejo | sgclark: RE: Plasma 5.4.3 are you running the automation scripts or santa's ng ones? | 15:38 | 
| clivejo | any devs here today? | 16:02 | 
| sick_rimmit | looks like its just you and me clivejo | 16:16 | 
| clivejo | indeed | 16:16 | 
| sick_rimmit | I'm just running a testdrive install of 16.04 | 16:16 | 
| sick_rimmit | What's this slider you want looking at ? | 16:16 | 
| clivejo | I was wanting to get some of the new release KDE stuff packaged | 16:16 | 
| clivejo | but automation scripts have gone :/ | 16:17 | 
| sick_rimmit | Ah got it | 16:17 | 
| sick_rimmit | Just looking at that post on G+ | 16:18 | 
| clivejo | does it work for you? | 16:19 | 
| allee | clivejo: about packagging: AFAIK we have no backup tool in kubuntu. Maybe kubuntu should try to find one for 16.04. | 16:34 | 
| clivejo | hi TJ- | 16:35 | 
| clivejo | would you have any idea on the status of the new automation tools? | 16:36 | 
| TJ- | No, I've not really been following. Is that the things santa was working on? | 16:37 | 
| clivejo | I believe so | 16:37 | 
| sick_rimmit | allee: I understand KUP is pretty good, and part of the KDE Suite | 16:59 | 
| allee | sick_rimmit: yes. it's nice. I use it. Missing is way to abort a running backup and some UI enhancements. | 17:00 | 
| allee | it only backups user data. Question is if that enough. IMHO at least a good start. | 17:01 | 
| clivejo | sick_rimmit: did the scaling slider work for you? | 17:01 | 
| * clivejo had to reboot | 17:01 | |
| allee | Kup is not part of KDE Applications. | 17:02 | 
| sick_rimmit | Install not finished yey clivejo | 17:02 | 
| sick_rimmit | Let me have a look on my lappie here | 17:02 | 
| allee | AH, missing: a) cancel running backup b) Sort of progress c) better way to verify archived data. (Doing it here before the backup >~ 26 h delay until backup starts) | 17:04 | 
| allee | But I like that it offers a backup when the USB disk is connected. | 17:05 | 
| sick_rimmit | hmmm | 17:06 | 
| sick_rimmit | How do I find that KDE Module Control dialogue ? | 17:06 | 
| sick_rimmit | Ah now I got it | 17:06 | 
| sick_rimmit | clivejo: Yes that slider works on my machine | 17:09 | 
| sick_rimmit | Which is a 2009 Samsun R710 running a NVidia card | 17:09 | 
| clivejo | doesnt work for me :/ | 17:13 | 
| clivejo | Ive tried to override the DPI in the xorg.config file but it only applies it to the login screen then overirdes it | 17:19 | 
| TJ- | clivejo: how about applying it directly using 'xrandr' ? | 18:03 | 
| clivejo | sick_rimmit: how did xenial install go? | 20:12 | 
| clivejo | anyone else got xenial installed? | 20:30 | 
| sick_rimmit | clivejo: I just got the install finished, and is rebooting now... | 21:00 | 
| sick_rimmit | It's in VBox and this laptop is quite old.. 2009 | 21:00 | 
| sick_rimmit | Plus, I've been doing loads on my laptop today.. It only has 3Gb of RAM | 21:01 | 
| sick_rimmit | But it has 24Gb of SSD Swap ;-) | 21:01 | 
| clivejo | nice | 21:12 | 
| clivejo | that should speed it up | 21:13 | 
| sick_rimmit | Alright good news.. | 21:18 | 
| sick_rimmit | It installed, and booted. I've logged in and am at the desktop.. on 16.04 Xenial.. | 21:19 | 
| sick_rimmit | I reckon that's a result | 21:19 | 
| clivejo | indeed | 22:00 | 
| clivejo | no major problems? | 22:00 | 
| clivejo | my internet is soooo slow! | 22:37 | 
| valorie | clivejo: sorry to hear of your recent difficulties | 22:47 | 
| valorie | that really sucks | 22:47 | 
| clivejo | which ones? | 22:47 | 
| clivejo | Ive had a few issues recently?!? | 22:47 | 
| valorie | display was one that I read up here | 22:48 | 
| valorie | in the scrollback | 22:48 | 
| clivejo | yeah that ones annoying me! | 22:49 | 
| valorie | still no fix? | 22:53 | 
| valorie | have you looked for bug reports? | 22:53 | 
| valorie | David is the best for being responsive, friendly and helpful | 22:53 | 
| valorie | d_ed: ^^^ | 22:54 | 
| valorie | plus hilarious | 22:54 | 
| clivejo | I dont know what is wrong | 22:55 | 
| clivejo | it just changed last night | 22:55 | 
| clivejo | trying to get my pbuilder sorted for xenial | 22:58 | 
| clivejo | only a few hundred MB but its soooo slow | 22:59 | 
| * clivejo yawns | 23:34 | |
| clivejo | I feel like Im falling | 23:34 | 
| clivejo | sick_rimmit: what are you up to? | 23:38 | 
| valorie | oh dear, sick_rimmit has a sick connection | 23:59 | 
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