[00:51] since https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs lacks any links to the ppa, as does sgclark's post about the trusty-backports ppa, can someone please link me? [01:20] This is an example of the guidance I used to share about backports: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-532-and-frameworks-5120-backported-kubuntu-1504/ [01:21] thx mparillo [04:14] * wxl yawns [04:57] still up philipballew ? [04:57] uhhh [04:57] wrong channel [09:12] Good morning. [10:34] has anything changed graphically in wily this past few days? [10:36] my display has suddenly got bigger (bigger fonts, bigger tray icons etc) [10:55] hi sick_rimmit [10:55] in Wily - i doubt [10:55] soee_: :( [10:56] this is so weird [10:56] domething related to DPI prbably in your case [10:56] how do I change that? [10:58] In Settings> Display Configuation> Scale Display it is set at 1x, but if I move that slider and save, settings crashes [10:59] Im installing qtbase5-dbg & systemsettings-dbg to get a better bug report [11:00] this happened in reverse during wily development [11:00] :/ [11:01] but I grew to like the smaller icons [11:01] tbh i had never someserious problems with DPI on my laptop [11:01] and Id like them back! [11:05] how do you change the DPI? [11:07] Hi clivejo [11:07] morning everyone === tazz_ is now known as tazz [11:14] clivejo: i do not change anything, it just work fone [11:44] eakkk === palasso_ is now known as palasso [12:23] Hiyas all [12:41] Hi BluesKaj [12:41] Hi sick_rimmit [12:41] Looking at some Bugs, I am Triaging.. [12:41] ok good [12:41] We've got some for Quanta the old HTML IDE.. [12:42] I don't think that we package that any more do we ? [12:42] Has Kdevelop taken over from it [12:43] sick_rimmit, dunno, i test, but don't package [12:56] Ah cool, well that's even more important [12:57] Do you use the TestDrive tool ? [13:05] nope, never used it ...whenever Riddell or one of the devs has a major release/ppa etc, then a list of testers are called to test it [13:05] I *beeping* hate NVidia! [13:06] that's about as involved as I get [13:06] nvidia works ok vs amd [13:07] Ive spent an hour trying to get back into Plasma [13:07] and still got stupid big icons and fonts [13:07] I dunno why changed over night [13:08] nvidia does have it's bugs but they're usually fixable ...amd 's problems are more numerous [13:09] but nothing changed, there was no updates, nothing new installed. Just booted this morning to my whole desktop blown up and ugly looking [13:10] all my screens are same resolution, just everything is bigger [13:10] system settings>icons>advanced tab [13:10] its not just the icons, its the fonts, windows everything [13:11] then it's your resolution and your fonts dpi [13:11] the resolutions are the same [13:12] Ive still got the screen sizes I had all along [13:19] this seems to be the problem - https://plus.google.com/+KDEOKK/posts/R34B46xDvNz [13:20] instead of the default setting of x1, I need to go smaller, like x0.9 [13:24] I have increase the dpi due to the size of my monitor, it's a 42" Panasonic plasma TV [13:28] well that scaling slider is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike [13:32] clivejo, there's still a lot of features that are missing or don't work well, or don't work at all [13:47] sorry BluesKaj, I rebooted as you sent that message [13:48] the problem is it was working fine yesterday. What changed from yesterday to today ? [13:49] which kubuntu? [13:50] 15.10 [13:52] its so weird, it did this in reverse a few months ago. I thought it was just an update as part of wily devel, but I liked the smaller icons and having more room on the screen [13:54] wasted 4 hours on this now :( [14:03] sorry clivejo i just use the icon sizes settings, but even they don't seem to do much [14:05] I normally don't populate my desktop with icons. I populate the launchers in the panel by dragging them from the application launcher [14:06] in conjunction with the icons only taskmanager [15:11] * sick_rimmit Laughs with clivejo [15:11] * sick_rimmit "An Ashtray on a Motorbike" [15:11] * clivejo is not laughing [15:11] lol [15:12] this plasma has a mind of its own [15:12] like a baby Skynet [15:16] sick_rimmit: if you have time would you try that slider in different positions and see if it does anything on your system? [15:38] sgclark: RE: Plasma 5.4.3 are you running the automation scripts or santa's ng ones? [16:02] any devs here today? [16:16] looks like its just you and me clivejo [16:16] indeed [16:16] I'm just running a testdrive install of 16.04 [16:16] What's this slider you want looking at ? [16:16] I was wanting to get some of the new release KDE stuff packaged [16:17] but automation scripts have gone :/ [16:17] Ah got it [16:18] Just looking at that post on G+ [16:19] does it work for you? [16:34] clivejo: about packagging: AFAIK we have no backup tool in kubuntu. Maybe kubuntu should try to find one for 16.04. [16:35] hi TJ- [16:36] would you have any idea on the status of the new automation tools? [16:37] No, I've not really been following. Is that the things santa was working on? [16:37] I believe so [16:59] allee: I understand KUP is pretty good, and part of the KDE Suite [17:00] sick_rimmit: yes. it's nice. I use it. Missing is way to abort a running backup and some UI enhancements. [17:01] it only backups user data. Question is if that enough. IMHO at least a good start. [17:01] sick_rimmit: did the scaling slider work for you? [17:01] * clivejo had to reboot [17:02] Kup is not part of KDE Applications. [17:02] Install not finished yey clivejo [17:02] Let me have a look on my lappie here [17:04] AH, missing: a) cancel running backup b) Sort of progress c) better way to verify archived data. (Doing it here before the backup >~ 26 h delay until backup starts) [17:05] But I like that it offers a backup when the USB disk is connected. [17:06] hmmm [17:06] How do I find that KDE Module Control dialogue ? [17:06] Ah now I got it [17:09] clivejo: Yes that slider works on my machine [17:09] Which is a 2009 Samsun R710 running a NVidia card [17:13] doesnt work for me :/ [17:19] Ive tried to override the DPI in the xorg.config file but it only applies it to the login screen then overirdes it [18:03] clivejo: how about applying it directly using 'xrandr' ? [20:12] sick_rimmit: how did xenial install go? [20:30] anyone else got xenial installed? [21:00] clivejo: I just got the install finished, and is rebooting now... [21:00] It's in VBox and this laptop is quite old.. 2009 [21:01] Plus, I've been doing loads on my laptop today.. It only has 3Gb of RAM [21:01] But it has 24Gb of SSD Swap ;-) [21:12] nice [21:13] that should speed it up [21:18] Alright good news.. [21:19] It installed, and booted. I've logged in and am at the desktop.. on 16.04 Xenial.. [21:19] I reckon that's a result [22:00] indeed [22:00] no major problems? [22:37] my internet is soooo slow! [22:47] clivejo: sorry to hear of your recent difficulties [22:47] that really sucks [22:47] which ones? [22:47] Ive had a few issues recently?!? [22:48] display was one that I read up here [22:48] in the scrollback [22:49] yeah that ones annoying me! [22:53] still no fix? [22:53] have you looked for bug reports? [22:53] David is the best for being responsive, friendly and helpful [22:54] d_ed: ^^^ [22:54] plus hilarious [22:55] I dont know what is wrong [22:55] it just changed last night [22:58] trying to get my pbuilder sorted for xenial [22:59] only a few hundred MB but its soooo slow [23:34] * clivejo yawns [23:34] I feel like Im falling [23:38] sick_rimmit: what are you up to? [23:59] oh dear, sick_rimmit has a sick connection