[00:51] <wxl> since https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/PPAs lacks any links to the ppa, as does sgclark's post about the trusty-backports ppa, can someone please link me?
[01:20] <mparillo> This is an example of the guidance I used to share about backports: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/plasma-532-and-frameworks-5120-backported-kubuntu-1504/
[01:21] <wxl> thx mparillo 
[04:14]  * wxl yawns
[04:57] <wxl> still up philipballew ?
[04:57] <wxl> uhhh
[04:57] <wxl> wrong channel
[09:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:34] <clivejo> has anything changed graphically in wily this past few days?
[10:36] <clivejo> my display has suddenly got bigger (bigger fonts, bigger tray icons etc)
[10:55] <clivejo> hi sick_rimmit
[10:55] <soee_> in Wily - i doubt
[10:55] <clivejo> soee_: :(
[10:56] <clivejo> this is so weird
[10:56] <soee_> domething related to DPI prbably in your case
[10:56] <clivejo> how do I change that?
[10:58] <clivejo> In Settings> Display Configuation> Scale Display it is set at 1x, but if I move that slider and save, settings crashes
[10:59] <clivejo> Im installing qtbase5-dbg & systemsettings-dbg to get a better bug report
[11:00] <clivejo> this happened in reverse during wily development
[11:00] <soee_> :/
[11:01] <clivejo> but I grew to like the smaller icons
[11:01] <soee_> tbh i had never someserious problems with DPI on my laptop
[11:01] <clivejo> and Id like them back!
[11:05] <clivejo> how do you change the DPI?
[11:07] <sick_rimmit> Hi clivejo
[11:07] <sick_rimmit> morning everyone
[11:14] <soee_> clivejo: i do not change anything, it just work fone
[11:44] <clivejo> eakkk
[12:23] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:41] <sick_rimmit> Hi BluesKaj
[12:41] <BluesKaj> Hi sick_rimmit
[12:41] <sick_rimmit> Looking at some Bugs, I am Triaging..
[12:41] <BluesKaj> ok good
[12:41] <sick_rimmit> We've got some for Quanta the old HTML IDE..
[12:42] <sick_rimmit> I don't think that we package that any more do we ?
[12:42] <sick_rimmit> Has Kdevelop taken over from it
[12:43] <BluesKaj> sick_rimmit, dunno, i test, but don't package
[12:56] <sick_rimmit> Ah cool, well that's even more important
[12:57] <sick_rimmit> Do you use the TestDrive tool ?
[13:05] <BluesKaj> nope, never used it ...whenever Riddell or one of the devs has a major release/ppa etc, then a list of testers are called to test it
[13:05] <clivejo> I *beeping* hate NVidia!
[13:06] <BluesKaj> that's about as involved as I get
[13:06] <BluesKaj> nvidia works ok vs amd 
[13:07] <clivejo> Ive spent an hour trying to get back into Plasma
[13:07] <clivejo> and still got stupid big icons and fonts
[13:07] <clivejo> I dunno why changed over night
[13:08] <BluesKaj> nvidia does have it's bugs but they're usually fixable ...amd 's problems are more numerous
[13:09] <clivejo> but nothing changed, there was no updates, nothing new installed.  Just booted this morning to my whole desktop blown up and ugly looking
[13:10] <clivejo> all my screens are same resolution, just everything is bigger
[13:10] <BluesKaj> system settings>icons>advanced tab
[13:10] <clivejo> its not just the icons, its the fonts, windows everything
[13:11] <BluesKaj> then it's your resolution and your fonts dpi
[13:11] <clivejo> the resolutions are the same
[13:12] <clivejo> Ive still got the screen sizes I had all along
[13:19] <clivejo> this seems to be the problem - https://plus.google.com/+KDEOKK/posts/R34B46xDvNz
[13:20] <clivejo> instead of the default setting of x1, I need to go smaller, like x0.9
[13:24] <BluesKaj> I have increase the dpi due to the size of my monitor, it's a 42" Panasonic plasma TV
[13:28] <clivejo> well that scaling slider is as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike
[13:32] <BluesKaj> clivejo, there's still a lot of features that are missing or don't work well, or don't work at all
[13:47] <clivejo> sorry BluesKaj, I rebooted as you sent that message
[13:48] <clivejo> the problem is it was working fine yesterday.  What changed from yesterday to today ?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu?
[13:50] <clivejo> 15.10
[13:52] <clivejo> its so weird, it did this in reverse a few months ago.  I thought it was just an update as part of wily devel, but I liked the smaller icons and having more room on the screen 
[13:54] <clivejo> wasted 4 hours on this now :(
[14:03] <BluesKaj> sorry clivejo i just use the icon sizes settings, but even they don't seem to do much
[14:05] <BluesKaj> I normally don't populate my desktop with icons. I populate the launchers in the panel by dragging them from the application launcher
[14:06] <BluesKaj> in conjunction with the icons only taskmanager
[15:11]  * sick_rimmit Laughs with clivejo
[15:11]  * sick_rimmit "An Ashtray on a Motorbike"
[15:11]  * clivejo is not laughing
[15:11] <sick_rimmit> lol
[15:12] <clivejo> this plasma has a mind of its own
[15:12] <clivejo> like a baby Skynet
[15:16] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: if you have time would you try that slider in different positions and see if it does anything on your system?
[15:38] <clivejo> sgclark: RE: Plasma 5.4.3 are you running the automation scripts or santa's ng ones?
[16:02] <clivejo> any devs here today?
[16:16] <sick_rimmit> looks like its just you and me clivejo
[16:16] <clivejo> indeed
[16:16] <sick_rimmit> I'm just running a testdrive install of 16.04
[16:16] <sick_rimmit> What's this slider you want looking at ?
[16:16] <clivejo> I was wanting to get some of the new release KDE stuff packaged
[16:17] <clivejo> but automation scripts have gone :/
[16:17] <sick_rimmit> Ah got it
[16:18] <sick_rimmit> Just looking at that post on G+
[16:19] <clivejo> does it work for you?
[16:34] <allee> clivejo: about packagging:  AFAIK we have no backup tool in kubuntu.  Maybe kubuntu should try to find one for 16.04.  
[16:35] <clivejo> hi TJ-
[16:36] <clivejo> would you have any idea on the status of the new automation tools?
[16:37] <TJ-> No, I've not really been following. Is that the things santa was working on?
[16:37] <clivejo> I believe so
[16:59] <sick_rimmit> allee: I understand KUP is pretty good, and part of the KDE Suite
[17:00] <allee> sick_rimmit: yes. it's nice.  I use it.  Missing is way to abort a running backup and some UI enhancements.  
[17:01] <allee> it only backups  user data.  Question is if that enough.   IMHO at least a good start.
[17:01] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: did the scaling slider work for you?
[17:01]  * clivejo had to reboot
[17:02] <allee> Kup is not part of KDE Applications.
[17:02] <sick_rimmit> Install not finished yey clivejo
[17:02] <sick_rimmit> Let me have a look on my lappie here
[17:04] <allee> AH, missing: a) cancel running backup b)  Sort of progress  c) better way to verify archived data. (Doing it here before the backup >~ 26 h delay until backup starts) 
[17:05] <allee> But I like that it offers a backup when the USB disk is connected.
[17:06] <sick_rimmit> hmmm
[17:06] <sick_rimmit> How do I find that KDE Module Control dialogue ?
[17:06] <sick_rimmit> Ah now I got it
[17:09] <sick_rimmit> clivejo: Yes that slider works on my machine
[17:09] <sick_rimmit> Which is a 2009 Samsun R710 running a NVidia card
[17:13] <clivejo> doesnt work for me :/
[17:19] <clivejo> Ive tried to override the DPI in the xorg.config file but it only applies it to the login screen then overirdes it 
[18:03] <TJ-> clivejo: how about applying it directly using 'xrandr' ?
[20:12] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: how did xenial install go?
[20:30] <clivejo> anyone else got xenial installed?
[21:00] <sick_rimmit> clivejo: I just got the install finished, and is rebooting now...
[21:00] <sick_rimmit> It's in VBox and this laptop is quite old.. 2009
[21:01] <sick_rimmit> Plus, I've been doing loads on my laptop today.. It only has 3Gb of RAM
[21:01] <sick_rimmit> But it has 24Gb of SSD Swap ;-)
[21:12] <clivejo> nice
[21:13] <clivejo> that should speed it up
[21:18] <sick_rimmit> Alright good news..
[21:19] <sick_rimmit> It installed, and booted. I've logged in and am at the desktop.. on 16.04 Xenial..
[21:19] <sick_rimmit> I reckon that's a result
[22:00] <clivejo> indeed
[22:00] <clivejo> no major problems?
[22:37] <clivejo> my internet is soooo slow!
[22:47] <valorie> clivejo: sorry to hear of your recent difficulties
[22:47] <valorie> that really sucks
[22:47] <clivejo> which ones?
[22:47] <clivejo> Ive had a few issues recently?!?
[22:48] <valorie> display was one that I read up here
[22:48] <valorie> in the scrollback
[22:49] <clivejo> yeah that ones annoying me!
[22:53] <valorie> still no fix?
[22:53] <valorie> have you looked for bug reports?
[22:53] <valorie> David is the best for being responsive, friendly and helpful
[22:54] <valorie> d_ed: ^^^
[22:54] <valorie> plus hilarious
[22:55] <clivejo> I dont know what is wrong
[22:55] <clivejo> it just changed last night
[22:58] <clivejo> trying to get my pbuilder sorted for xenial
[22:59] <clivejo> only a few hundred MB but its soooo slow
[23:34]  * clivejo yawns
[23:34] <clivejo> I feel like Im falling
[23:38] <clivejo> sick_rimmit: what are you up to?
[23:59] <valorie> oh dear, sick_rimmit has a sick connection